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    Timestamps:
    00:00 - Intro
    1:17 - Spoiler-free Pitch
    6:05 - Author James Islington
    7:41 - Others Thoughts
    9:29 - Spoiler-free Rating
    12:29 - SPOILERS
    12:50 - Emotional Impact
    22:34 - Thought-Provoking
    30:44 - Characters
    48:11 - Plot
    1:02:10 - Worldbuilding
    1:06:58 - Prose

Комментарии • 174

  • @adri_144
    @adri_144 28 дней назад +10

    what i loved about the will of the many was how there was finally a clever protagonist. someone who takes all things into consideration and when smth is too dangerous, instead of being like "i'm the main character, nothing's gonna happen to me so i'm just gonna go do this thing and succeed," he just leaves because it's not worth the risk and comes back better prepared. i was also pleasantly surprised by how certain characters were portrayed (A BIT OF A SPOILER) - like veridius who is described as the principal at the academy and so you probably imagine him as this middle-aged/old dude who holds lots of power and will be a nuisance (at least i did) but instead you get this young charismatic guy who gets on well with the students and has you questioning whether he's actually as bad as you were told.
    also the setting being inspired by ancient rome is just a great bonus to it all.

    • @pippaschroeder9660
      @pippaschroeder9660 4 дня назад

      I loved how Vis gave zero fucks in the chess-like game against that one girl and the duel where he busted the guy for cheating. Eidhin also subverted expectations when you thought he was gonna be the Neville long bottom bully of the story but ends but befriending Vis, I loved their friendship

  • @dishamistrymazepa7632
    @dishamistrymazepa7632 Месяц назад +26

    This book is a masterpiece, I still haven’t stopped recommending it to anyone who will listen

  • @Deedubyar
    @Deedubyar Месяц назад +11

    You can’t tell that best moment in this book was not when Belli offered Vis the chance to remove a piece from the board to make it easier for him but he ends up removing one of his own pieces. Like bro… what a guy. Seems like something Darrow would do and I love it.

    • @henryyt1
      @henryyt1 Месяц назад

      The chess match was one of my fav scenes. Badass and cathartic. Chapter 20 is the highlight of the book for me though, what a chapter

  • @alexiasp
    @alexiasp Месяц назад +24

    i like seeing Austin excited, it’s been a while

  • @hunterramey8180
    @hunterramey8180 Месяц назад +13

    This book was fantastic. Even my wife liked it and she usually sticks to Sarah J. Maas type books. Part 3 was god tier level stuff when Vis goes back "home."

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      Great scenes all around

  • @scionsilverbeat8149
    @scionsilverbeat8149 Месяц назад +5

    It’s been MONTHS since I read it. Yet hearing you guys talk about specific scenes brought me right back to the feels I had reading it as though I’d just read it yesterday.
    This book was insane in the best way possible.

  • @VickIngInTheSky
    @VickIngInTheSky Месяц назад +7

    The Brothers Gwynne described it as a mix between the Roman Empire and Knights of the Old Republic. That's when I knew I had to read it. I saw, I read, I enjoyed :)

  • @HMadalin
    @HMadalin Месяц назад +5

    I've read it one year ago and I still think about it. One of my favorite books

  • @Playatoma
    @Playatoma Месяц назад +5

    Been waiting for this one!!
    I also read The Licanius Trilogy years back and thought it was really underrated. But by the first chapter alone I have never seen such a dramatic improvement in a writers ability to prose, dialogue, style, etc. such a great book!

  • @pandusonu
    @pandusonu Месяц назад +5

    20:45 absolutely my fav scene. Chapter XLV, I read the last few pages multiple times, total badass scene. And he didn't say he is moving to next class to the shitty professor, he just said "It seems you need to check the equpment again" He didnt need to say he won or is moving to next class, everyone just silently knew and accepted that.

  • @ShanBatavia
    @ShanBatavia Месяц назад

    So happy about this review, was waiting for this one!

  • @Doctor_Rockso
    @Doctor_Rockso Месяц назад +5

    Enjoy the content guys!
    Richard one complaint is that your worldbuilding criticisms are usually that if the book wasnt a history textbook spelling everything out, then it wasnt world building. Suggestions and implications and mysteries are part of worldbuilding imo. Sometimes i feel that you only rate worldbuilding highly if it comes at the detriment of plot and characters because the book didnt spend all its page real estate in world description

    • @Emily-vk8gw
      @Emily-vk8gw Месяц назад +1

      Not sure I have the same critique because I haven't watched enough of their videos. But I really liked the fact that Islington didn't info dump. It treats the reader as intelligent and let's them figure it out over the course of the book. It annoys me when books explain too much or characters have conversations that are too simplistic just for the reader's benefit.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +2

      Curious what Richard thinks on this - ill have to bring this up to see if he agrees with the criticism! (Also thanks for watching and not criticising me, austin, fragile ego)

  • @grabsgranite3188
    @grabsgranite3188 Месяц назад +1

    I wish I enjoyed this as much as you guys! I liked it and will definitely continue the series. Love seeing the excitement!

  • @marcochen9117
    @marcochen9117 Месяц назад +5

    I think this novel is the perfect segway for king killer fans. It shares many of the same tropes with a school setting, climbing the ladder of a hierarchy of sorts. Imo the prose of Name of the wind didn't wow me as it did many others, so I don't think fans will be disappointed with the prose by Islington (which is heavily improved since the licanius trilogy). I think the characters are way more plentiful and interesting than the king killer though, the side characters both in the school, and in other factions have lots of great dynamics with the main character, as well as a whole lot of political intrigue with the overall world.
    What I do think both books share is a bit of an "OP" main character, who imo are both a bit of blank slates. But imo Vis in Will of the Many is a little bit more interesting and at least has better dynamics than Kvothe. I actually thought Kvothe was at his most interesting in the recount chapters.
    I do think both books have a bit of a "down" segment to them. I really really disliked the dragon hunting section of name of the wind, it took way too long, wasn't really exciting and just went on for too long. I think with Will of the Many, during the climax, there was a long section where Vis is doing another mission to uncover a secret, it gets a bit jumbled there for me and the revelation takes a bit of time to get going. I think with the Will of the Many tho that part has a bigger role in the 2nd book, where as the dragon hunting in Name of the wind was just a bit of time dragging that doesn't necessarily drive the story forward.

  • @ladymairreads
    @ladymairreads Месяц назад +2

    The will of the many is THE Roman Empire book. Read it twice and loved it more each time

  • @ollebergqvist1690
    @ollebergqvist1690 Месяц назад +8

    Love your videos. Can you guys pls do a top 10 favorite books or something similar. If you talked 2-3 minutes about every book. Woud be a really fun watch.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +5

      Maybe we can do an update at the end of each year like other Booktubers do of our top 10!

    • @ollebergqvist1690
      @ollebergqvist1690 Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble That woud be awesome. The Will of the many went to number 1 of my tbt after watching the spoiler free section. Love from Sweden🇸🇪

  • @Emily-vk8gw
    @Emily-vk8gw Месяц назад +2

    So glad you guys finally reviewed this one! I can't wait for the second book 🙂
    SPOILERS:
    Quick note about characters: Islington’s dialogue is sparingly used. But when he does use it it’s very well done. The scene where Vis and Eidhin are making fun of the teacher had me laughing out loud, and did more to develop their friendship than any of the other descriptions.
    My opinion with the Gary Stu thing is that the book is told in first person, so of course Vis is going to get out of any issues that arise. The question is how. The fact is that Vis is not actually better than everyone at everything. There are characters who are more intelligent, or at least better educated (Indol, Emissa). And Belli is better at him in running the maze and about equal to him at the chess game. He’s not particularly good at getting people to like him (as established in class 7, 6, and 5) because political maneuvering is not something he enjoys even though he’s trained at it. He only starts being successful at it in the upper classes when the classmates themselves are also prioritizing politicking.
    The thing that he consistently does is not overextend his hand. No one had seen him play chess, so no one knew he was good at it. But we as an audience know he’s good because it was literally on the first page. And the fact that he speaks Eidhin’s language is not surprising because it’s established from chapter one that his family prioritized knowing languages so that you could read ancient texts without Hierarchy biases.
    All of that said I do wish that they used the side characters’ expertise more to solve the issues. I’m hoping that becomes more prevalent in the second book when he is (I assume) going to have to do more politics maneuvering.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Rich and I both agree he leans more gary stuff but definitely not using that term in a negative way, at least for me, because it didnt detract. I like your point tho!

  • @xgremlynnx
    @xgremlynnx Месяц назад +6

    I couldn't get into Red Rising, but THIS book??? I was completely obsessed!! Waiting for the sequel has been so painful, but it'll be worth the wait for sure.

  • @zaga002
    @zaga002 Месяц назад

    Oh, I’ve been waiting for this one

  • @ScottBass
    @ScottBass Месяц назад +1

    Great vids, boys. Seems like we are all in the same boat on this one: give me a great story and I’ll be flexible on many other issues. Give me a reason to trust an author, and I’ll hang on through even self-perceived lulls or bad points.

  • @CasualTotoro
    @CasualTotoro 11 дней назад

    I’ve had this saved in my watch later, and have been listening to this on my runs and hikes since you guys uploaded this.
    Aside from the butchering of the names, you guys are spot on!
    Funny enough. I’ve adopted your ratting metric and this was mine: a 4.25 😂
    Emotional Impact: 4.5
    Thought Provoking: 3.5
    Characters: 4.5
    Plot: 4.25
    World Building: 4.75
    Prose: 4

  • @Talking_Story
    @Talking_Story Месяц назад

    Wow! This is moving up my TBR.

  • @JesusJr269
    @JesusJr269 Месяц назад

    Literally finished the book today! Really enjoyed it, the final scene with Calidous (if you know, you know) really got me shook. So many unanswered questions, glad it shouldn’t be too long a wait for book 2 :)

  • @renimaruuu9220
    @renimaruuu9220 Месяц назад +1

    I remmeber i made comment about this book back in October im so happy that yall made vid on this

  • @johnzack6961
    @johnzack6961 Месяц назад

    Seeing this drop while in the middle of the book made me so happy to know I’ll have something to watch about it after finishing. Islington’s other stuff definitely is moving up on the TBR

  • @emersonwright5390
    @emersonwright5390 Месяц назад

    Went and picked up the book. You guys have me very excited.

  • @esmayrosalyne
    @esmayrosalyne Месяц назад

    This entire video just had me wanting to pump my fists in the air because of Austin's unbridled enthusiasm lol. HECK YES, I needed the sequel like yesterday!! And I think it's going to be 4 books, which I am super happy about because the more the better 🤩

  • @wahajchaudhry7563
    @wahajchaudhry7563 Месяц назад

    Long time subscriber, first time commenter - You guys are what reignited my spark for reading!

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Thanks so much for watching our stuff! What a conpliment - glad youre back into reading

  • @anomanderrake69
    @anomanderrake69 Месяц назад

    Towards the end of it now and REALLLLLLY enjoying it

  • @mayhem502
    @mayhem502 Месяц назад +1

    I've been just as excited as Austin about this book lol. I got Red Rising vibes from it in terms of the writing it just felt really good, dying waiting for the next one. (I wrote this comment before Richard mentioned it also being similar to Red Rising glad we got the same vibes from it lol.)

  • @katherinep1010
    @katherinep1010 Месяц назад +1

    Stopped after the spoiler free. I'm currently reading the first Licanus book and you guys have convinced me to try this one out too.
    I super duper appreciate that you guys told us it just follows the one character perspective. I wish that sort of info was easier to find about a book, along with whether or not it's dual timeline.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      We will make sure to include that info more in our reviews!

  • @CombativeRoboGuy
    @CombativeRoboGuy Месяц назад +1

    God I want to reread this book now. I read it during a trying time and I was just obsessed after I passed page 200.

  • @nicodemogawronski2052
    @nicodemogawronski2052 Месяц назад

    I loved the audiobook. I'm really looking forward to book 2

  • @samuelleask1132
    @samuelleask1132 Месяц назад +1

    Top 3 reads from me that I read last year, along with Empire of the Vampire and Legends & Lattes

  • @jaishans
    @jaishans Месяц назад +2

    Never thought I would see Austin cheat on Peirce Brown so hard.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Dont worry, Pierce doesnt have to know

  • @stargatefish
    @stargatefish Месяц назад

    I'm 2 thirds of the way through the book and Literally look up if you guys had done a review on it yesterday!!! It's soo good so far! Can't wait to finish the book

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      Great timing!!

    • @stargatefish
      @stargatefish Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble I'm going to finish the book today and then geek out about it while watching you guys do the same haha

  • @alynam82
    @alynam82 Месяц назад

    Cutting out before spoilers. But nice to see such high regards for this book. I'm looking forward to getting to this. Wow Austin, 4.5☆? It must be golden

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Loved it! Hope you give it a try and let us know what you think

  • @blu3poisonfrog
    @blu3poisonfrog 11 дней назад

    i read this book in january back-to-back and am still insane about it

  • @BreathResolution
    @BreathResolution Месяц назад +3

    I literally just finished this last night, and was like "what the fuuuuuuuuuuuu". Can only agree on this book getting me out of my reading slump.

  • @AL8INOCARE8EAR
    @AL8INOCARE8EAR Месяц назад

    Perfect timing! I finished this book last night after starting it on Friday. I went into this book expecting some similarities to Red Rising. Immediately after reaching Ch 1 I knew I was going to love the book. Red Rising-ish plot with Warbreaker-ish magic system? Count me IN. I was glued to the book the entire time. I would have given it a perfect 5/5 but there were was 1 scene/interaction that almost felt forced, and a couple of scenes that felt repetitive. Still enjoyable, but those took me out just a tad. Solid 4.5/5

  • @firecy
    @firecy Месяц назад

    Given how excited Austin is about both this book and Red Rising, and especially given how he's generally OK with the Mary Sue aspects of Vis's personality, I'd be really interested to see how he feels about Name of the Wind.

  • @adeoyesunday3323
    @adeoyesunday3323 Месяц назад

    You had me at "fantasy version of red rising,", I am starting today lol

  • @BookishGecko
    @BookishGecko Месяц назад

    Excellent book! I initially borrowed it from the library, finished it and immediately ordered a copy because I want this book on my shelves and I’m definitely carrying on with it as soon as book 2 is out.
    I read The Shadow of What Was Lost yesterday and I really enjoyed it and I’m upset that it’ll take a week for the next book to get to my library for me 😭😂
    Also boo Levy (I say with love)

  • @johnlewis7272
    @johnlewis7272 5 дней назад

    The main thing this book taught me was to wait until a series is completed before starting. The wait for the second book is agonizing.

  • @valliyarnl
    @valliyarnl Месяц назад +1

    Want to read this but got to do Licanius first :)

  • @minaa107
    @minaa107 Месяц назад +1

    haven’t watched this all yet but interested to hear your guys’ thoughts! personally I wasn’t a huge fan, or at least I wasn’t for the first like 50% of the book lol. I think where it really failed for me was the characters; I didn’t really care for anyone and so much of their progression seemed to happen off page?
    I also think it could’ve done with some more editing, but book 2 could be really great based on that ending. I think this was like a 3.5 for me

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      Fair - seems like youll still give book 2 a shot?

    • @minaa107
      @minaa107 Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble yeah i’ll definitely give it a shot! I’d be interested to see where the story goes

    • @Gooby12337
      @Gooby12337 Месяц назад +2

      I'm the same way with this book. I almost DNF'd it, but pushed through. I thought the world building, magic system, and characters were all dull. I just couldn't find a personal connection with any of them and the whole book felt like it was just about the students running the labryinth over and over again. I loved the beginning where Vis was exploring things and uncovering secrets, but then that vibe just stopped dead in it's tracks. I couldn't stand this book to be blunt lol but that's what makes reading great. We all enjoy different things :)

    • @minaa107
      @minaa107 Месяц назад +1

      @@Gooby12337 I almost dnf’d too but kept going because everyone was raving about it 😅 definitely agree with you. especially since characters are so important for me in a story; I’m honestly surprised to see people praise that aspect of the book lol. but you’re right, different strokes for different folks!

  • @darthmalgus232
    @darthmalgus232 Месяц назад

    I’m not the finishing the book until the sequel comes out, so I can just go right into the next one. I hate cliffhangers (I spoiled the ending for myself, but I do that with most books/movies anyways. It doesn’t really bother me personally).

  • @reirei7086
    @reirei7086 Месяц назад

    Saw your video. Had this book on my TBR. Watched up until the spoiler section. Read the book. Came back and watched the rest of the video. I’m so glad I did cause I loved this book. Kinda annoyed I have to wait until 2025 to get my answers to that cliffhanger of an ending but damn. ‘‘Twas worth it 😅❤

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Sorry for making you wait, that’s the biggest negative about this book 😭

  • @tenthlegionstudios1343
    @tenthlegionstudios1343 Месяц назад +1

    One of my favorite books last year, and maybe in a long time. My wife and mom also read it and loved it. It seems to reach a large audience. Although - if I had one complaint, the print in the actual physical book is so tiny. What is this, a book for ants?? Come on James.

    • @Emily-vk8gw
      @Emily-vk8gw Месяц назад +1

      To be fair, in an interview he says he was surprised by how small the font was too. Apparently it has something to do with the cost of paper going up.

    • @tenthlegionstudios1343
      @tenthlegionstudios1343 Месяц назад

      @@Emily-vk8gw didnt know that! Figured it was around hitting a shorter overall page count to sell. But cost makes more sense.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Oh dang we didnt know that!

  • @tgibridays
    @tgibridays Месяц назад

    Yaaaaaas! I loved this book. All hype for me. Definitely Red Rising vibes, but also a better book one since he's a more experienced author than Pierce Brown was when he wrote RR.

  • @ladymairreads
    @ladymairreads Месяц назад

    Also if you don’t like name of the wind I’d recommend the first binding. People criticise it for being too like NOTW but I found it veered away. I adore it (and didn’t like NOTW)

  • @matthewmckinnon9298
    @matthewmckinnon9298 Месяц назад

    If it weren’t for Lonesome Dove and Pillars of the Earth this would be my favorite book I’ve read this year

  • @anthonybrigante9087
    @anthonybrigante9087 14 дней назад

    35:32 - Haven’t finished the video and maybe I’m the one misremembering, but I swear that they mentioned Vis’ skill at Swordplay & Foundation significantly earlier in the book and not just at the moment he needed to be good at it.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  14 дней назад

      I (believe) they did?

    • @vallano8970
      @vallano8970 5 дней назад

      They did. We learn about the foundation skill basically right at the state when he's playing against the man he worked with.
      And we learn about his sword skill when he's practicing again lanistia

  • @kalebrownie7735
    @kalebrownie7735 Месяц назад +1

    Have yal played the red rising board game?? I just got it, would be cool to play it on stream lol

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      We havent but do own it!

  • @AtiShard16
    @AtiShard16 Месяц назад

    I haven’t had this serious post-book depression since finishing Mistborn, which Austin NEEDS to read btw

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      I am as we speak 🤓

  • @qbanboi069
    @qbanboi069 Месяц назад

    Mike from Mike's book review interviewed James, and he asked him the biggest question we all had... It's Islington, like island. 🤣 And I agree Richard, Austin would be super pumped reading Rage of Dragons!

    • @qbanboi069
      @qbanboi069 Месяц назад

      I love how character is the longest portion like it was for the book club.. and mainly about Vis being a Gary Stu xD

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      Had to do it 😂

  • @mcp0y3
    @mcp0y3 Месяц назад +1

    Ok CONVINCED ME TO BUY!

  • @focusrelax8838
    @focusrelax8838 Месяц назад

    Is this book anything better and any books in the stormlight series?

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Personally (austin here) not better than Stormlight first 3 books. I would say it’s better than Rhythm of War

  • @seeschwalbe
    @seeschwalbe Месяц назад

    Best book I read last year, I'm so excited to read it again before the next one comes out!
    Spoilery part of the comment:
    I absolutely love stories where a character has a secret that could be the end of them if someone found out so they can't really trust anyone. And that is the whole book! And most of the characters! And that secret makes the protagonist the underdog to the whole oppressive system (who doesn't root for the underdog)! I was really at the edge of my seat the whole time reading this book because this whole card house of secrets that is the plot was build so precariously that it could crumble at any moment and I wanted to know how the characters would make sure it didn't. As an added bonus I got a lot of really smart characters, which are typically the ones that end up as my favourites.
    And I absolutely agree, the plotting that went into this book was insanely good!
    I also really like your theories about where the second book will go after that epilogue, they make a lot of sense and would make for an amazing story. If I remember correctly (its been a few months), when I finished the book I got the feeling that maybe one of the alternate Vis' might go down a darker route and have a character change for the worse since he got pushed into these directions a few times already in book one (again, if I remember correctly).
    I am really excited to find out where the story will go from here.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      Oh yes - the tension of “i cant be found out is awesome - another one of my (austin) favorite books does that 😁

    • @seeschwalbe
      @seeschwalbe Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble ooh, which one? I probably should add it to my tbr list if I haven't read it yet!

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      @@seeschwalbe golden son :D

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      @@seeschwalbe Golden Son :D

  • @amy_harboredinpages8272
    @amy_harboredinpages8272 Месяц назад

    I really liked this book too! That end though! Mind blown 🤯
    ...😎 4.75 for me.
    📚🥰📖

  • @focusrelax8838
    @focusrelax8838 Месяц назад +1

    1:07:25 is the prose similar to Brandon Sanderson?

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Not super similar, mainly the difference of first vs third person narration

  • @laarnimariesotelo2379
    @laarnimariesotelo2379 Месяц назад

    The epilogue was where it’s at. The epilogue is why I understand people have this book 5 stars.

  • @Smileysmiley012
    @Smileysmiley012 Месяц назад

    Goats 🐐

  • @ivorv5063
    @ivorv5063 Месяц назад

    The first book of the licanius trilogy is not rough, i think the second one is the roughest. I loved the series but i feel it should have been more books.

  • @deelak2329
    @deelak2329 13 дней назад +1

    Look, I thought this book was fine. But it really shouldn't be compared to Red Rising. Red Rising series is next level.

    • @Animotost
      @Animotost 6 дней назад +1

      Bro I literally thought I was the only one who didn’t fall in love with this book! Glad to see a new member of the club

  • @cacophonic7
    @cacophonic7 Месяц назад

    Have you guys read the prequels:
    The Will of the One, and The Will of the Two?

  • @bigflee3556
    @bigflee3556 Месяц назад

    Good morning

  • @reallifeshisui6644
    @reallifeshisui6644 Месяц назад +5

    Now this is a review I’ve been waiting for…. Before watching: curious to see how Austin reacts to a better Red Rising book 1. (The rest of RR is obviously goated, but book 1 vs will of the many is just not close)

    • @minaa107
      @minaa107 Месяц назад +3

      I thought red rising book 1 was better 😭 or at least it did better at grabbing my attention

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +4

      It’s close but RR is just one of my favorites!

    • @reallifeshisui6644
      @reallifeshisui6644 Месяц назад +3

      @@2ToRamble in defense of pierce, his book 1 is like half the length of WotM and James also had an entire trilogy of experience. Plus I’m pretty sure islington credits RR as a source of inspo.

    • @loonar7960
      @loonar7960 Месяц назад +2

      I feel like this does more than book 1 of Red Rising, but isn't executed as well. They are both roughly 4/5 for me, but for different reasons. I'd call TWOTM a 3.75 and RR is a solid 4.

    • @Emily-vk8gw
      @Emily-vk8gw Месяц назад +1

      I just read the first three books in Red Rising because everyone kept comparing them and I loved this one so much... and I understand why people are making the comparison because they both have the 17 year old from the "lower class" integrating into an elite school. But when you're comparing book one to book one they weren't really in the same category for me. Part of it happens to take place at a school, but that's not really integral to the story as a whole in The Will of the Many.
      This is definitely more of a political intrigue book. And despite the fact that magic system is not well described it's very clear that the magic system makes the economics of the world go round. Which makes the morality questions of technological advances vs subjugation of the populus all the more interesting. Exploring the politics and letting the world build naturally in a way that wasn't just info dumping were my favorite parts.
      Red Rising, especially book one, doesn't have that level of intricacy. And since everyone was comparing them I went into it expecting political intrigue and so it was a let down for me. Maybe books 4-6 have more of it but even if they do it took 3 books to get there. This one did all of it in book one, and book 2 is set up to expand passed what we've already seen.

  • @zarruhsuponkulov5710
    @zarruhsuponkulov5710 Месяц назад

    Just waiting for yall to start the suneater series.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      We reviewed book 1, just havent reviewed book 2 yet

  • @guilleyo161
    @guilleyo161 Месяц назад +2

    Why did you change from rating out of 10 to the 5 stars rating?

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      We released an episode (#126) explaining in depth the changes to the 5 star scale!

  • @jamesonsupan7865
    @jamesonsupan7865 Месяц назад

    The one I’ve waited for

  • @thomasciuffreda8783
    @thomasciuffreda8783 Месяц назад

    Read this a few months ago, besides The Sword of Kaigen, this is easily one of the best fantasy novels I've read in a long time.
    Ironically, I thought James Islington's first book The Shadow of What Was Lost was far too cliche-ridden to continue the Licanius trilogy, time-travel shenanigans non-withstanding, He's definitely improved a lot as a writer between the two series.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      This book and Sword of Kaigen - impeccable taste 🤌

    • @thomasciuffreda8783
      @thomasciuffreda8783 Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble Thank you. I am madly jealous of your bookshelf though lol. I also love Discworld and the Farseer series, loved them both for 20+ years. I hope you cover both series in the future. I know you covered Mort already, but I can't wait till you guys read Guards! Guards! Wyrd Sisters, Moving Pictures, The Truth, Reaper Man and Interesting Times. These are among Pratchett's absolute best in the series

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      @@thomasciuffreda8783 We will absolutely cover all of Pratchett's books one day and one book at a time!

  • @senecaryan4155
    @senecaryan4155 Месяц назад

    Last two times he got stoked like this was Red Rising & Stormlight Archive.... and those are both two of the best underdog feel good series I've gotten sucked into. Not that wheel of time 🧀🧀🧀🧀

  • @SImba87719
    @SImba87719 Месяц назад

    I tried reading Rage of Dragons, but couldn’t get into it.

  • @jsummer8974
    @jsummer8974 Месяц назад

    Austin Please read Rage of Dragons!!!!!

  • @ashleyholbird4287
    @ashleyholbird4287 Месяц назад +1

    Everybodys highly reccomending this book...but... i hated Lycanius. Pretty scared to read another one by him

    • @stephanieneal5942
      @stephanieneal5942 Месяц назад +2

      I wasn't a big fan of Licanius either - to be honest, I don't even remember much of it. But I really liked The Will of the Many, I think it's a big step up. I'd give it a try!

    • @PreppinShootinLivin
      @PreppinShootinLivin Месяц назад +1

      I haven't read this one yet, but just realize that Licanious was first released 10 years ago and was his debut...so a couple of good reasons to give him a second chance at this point...especially since everyone seems to love it. : )

  • @vigilantScrivener
    @vigilantScrivener Месяц назад

    I didn’t care for the first book of the Licanius trilogy, so that put me off from reading this one. Now that I’ve got time I’ll have to check it out.

  • @focusrelax8838
    @focusrelax8838 Месяц назад

    8:21 it’s going to be 4 books in this series not 3

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      This is right, thank you for the correction!

  • @SissouLoveVideo
    @SissouLoveVideo Месяц назад +1

    Yes I have been waiting for this one ! I didn't love it as much as some people it was a 4 stars for me but still, great great book !! If you liked some of the thematics here : the survivor of a fallen kingdom, the critic of democracy etc. you should read The Aurelian Cycle ! It's a complete trilogy with great themes and... it has dragons ! It is categorised as YA, and the first half of the first book reads a bit like that but overall it really doesn't take the expected YA tropes and I've seen youtube reviewers who are used to reading only Adult fantasy LOVING this series !

    • @SImba87719
      @SImba87719 Месяц назад +1

      I recommend Aurelian Cycle any chance I can. It’s such a great trilogy.

    • @SissouLoveVideo
      @SissouLoveVideo Месяц назад

      @@SImba87719 It IS !!!!

  • @andrewcozad9422
    @andrewcozad9422 Месяц назад +1

    You should read one piece!

  • @SissouLoveVideo
    @SissouLoveVideo Месяц назад

    Weirdly the colosseum scene didn't work for me : I think it was the way the magic worked and the way it was written that just didn't make me feel what I was supposed to feel, I don't know. I remember thinking that the author visibly wanted me to feel a lot more but it fell flat for me. It was one of the reasons why this book was "just" a four stars for me ; there's several moments that didn't hit me as they should have.
    But the labyrinths scenes and others did work for me, I remember getting more invested when he got into the school.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад +1

      Ahh I see what you mean - was it tough to visualize or just tough to care that early in the book that was the issue?

    • @SissouLoveVideo
      @SissouLoveVideo Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble I guess the fact that I didn't really understand the magic at play distracted me and the way it was written was too detached for me to feel as horrified as I should have

  • @IndiaTides
    @IndiaTides Месяц назад +2

    I was overhyped for this book.
    The only issue was that it didn't live upto the expectation.

    • @Gooby12337
      @Gooby12337 Месяц назад

      Exactly. I absolutely hated this book. I could barely finish it. Nothing was interesting to me. The world building, magic system, characters, plot, etc... It was all just so dull and lifeless in my opinion. Not to mention the ending was bizarre and very out there. Just not my taste

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Ahh damn, unfortunate - did you read/enjoy Licanius?

    • @IndiaTides
      @IndiaTides Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble Nah, this was my first Islington. I would try if you recommend it but I am not sure anymore.😔

  • @Slobrojoe
    @Slobrojoe Месяц назад

    I haven’t read it (so I’m obviously not going to watch past the spoiler-free part) but I’m not convinced. Mike’s Book Reviews said it was just “good” not 5/5 and also not like Red Rising. I’ll see if I can make space on the schedule for it, but I’m not too hopeful

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Let us know if you ever get to it!

  • @PreppinShootinLivin
    @PreppinShootinLivin Месяц назад

    I mean....Democracy is cringe.

  • @clayface1526
    @clayface1526 Месяц назад +1

    The book was really good while reading it but once you finished it and look back to see what makes this book good, you find out that this book is nothing special. I only read it because a lot of people who loved red rising recommended this but it's nothing like red rising. I'll still read the next book though.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Glad youll still read on!

  • @safinan8008
    @safinan8008 Месяц назад +1

    Sorry this book wasn’t for me… thanks for the review!! 😊

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Thanks for watching!

  • @rcoughy1977
    @rcoughy1977 Месяц назад

    Maybe fantasy isn’t for me. I enjoyed this book. Especially towards the end. But red rising is still above this for me. Not even too sure why I feel that way

  • @hollisbigham3886
    @hollisbigham3886 Месяц назад

    Loved this book. The ending was so good. The audiobook just as amazing. Vis is a little bit of Gary Stu and too good at everything but he’s interesting which matters. 4.25/5 for me. Honestly, least favorite part, the tiny ass font size!

  • @lukasa6374
    @lukasa6374 Месяц назад +1

    Weird, feel like im the only one who thought it was pretty overrated

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      What would you rate it?

    • @lukasa6374
      @lukasa6374 Месяц назад +1

      @@2ToRamble 3.5/5. Still a solid book, just didnt find it great. I thought the writing was a little janky and some of the dialogue felt forced/unreal

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      @@lukasa6374 Fair -- if the book wasn't raved about so much maybe you'd think more highly of it? Happens to me a bunch where Im like 'wait this is what ppl are fawning over?' -- totally get it

    • @lukasa6374
      @lukasa6374 Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble yeah that's true, goes both ways too, if i find a hidden gem i probably find it better than i would have if it was more mainstream

  • @hitzkooler15
    @hitzkooler15 Месяц назад +1

    Its a good book but widely overrated, come on... it does have one of the GOAT book titles though

  • @terryj33
    @terryj33 26 дней назад +1

    I just don’t get it. Didn’t like this book at all.

  • @fidato_
    @fidato_ Месяц назад +1

    I hate this book. The magic system wasn't explained properly. The main character was too unbelievable. He was just 17 and he knows all the languages and everything there is to know. There were no real obstacles for him to face.
    Everyone in the academy was helping him instead of focusing on their own ranking.
    200 pages too long and didn't feel like it was an adult fantasy.

    • @2ToRamble
      @2ToRamble  Месяц назад

      Ah darn - did you ever read Licanius and have thoughts on that as well?

    • @fidato_
      @fidato_ Месяц назад

      @@2ToRamble no I didn't read that one. But I am sure it's better than will of the many. Any thing is better than that book even twilight.

    • @jackruth4406
      @jackruth4406 Месяц назад

      Magic system was explained properly, most people seemed to understand it. Sounds like reader error. Main character definitely too good at some things, but he knows 3 languages, not "all". There were many obstacles for him to face, what do you even mean? Just because he accomplishes things doesn't mean there were no obstacles. This is an extremely lazy critique, do better.
      And no, in fact most in the academy were against him, he had only 3 or 4 people helping him throughout his journey. I can name multiple points at which people were out to get him. Or do those not count? Most of his progress came from people outside the academy cheating to get him through, not from his friends in the Academy. Did you even read this?
      Womp womp, colosseum and ending scenes are not scenes you get in YA. It has some adult themes, but its not grimdark so it's not "adult enough" for you I guess. Given the setting, of course a bunch of adult things aren't going to happen. But given the trajectory, its an apt label even if the first book doesn't delve as much into these themes.
      I always hear people say they didn't like this book, but their critiques are always half assed, never elaborated upon, and easily debunked. You are being a contrarian for the sake of it.

    • @fidato_
      @fidato_ Месяц назад

      @jackruth4406 Oh really then pls enlighten me on how the magic system works. What is conditional imbuing of will? How can someone who has never taken someone's will can use it?
      And what obstacles ? The ones that were conveniently shoved aside? How many times did the main character lose? He git trained for two months before joining the academy, and that training led him to know all the answers and everything. Isn't it funny that none of the other kids were trained by their parents? lol
      He even fought a combat that he had no training for. His friend helped him, and with that one day of training, he was able to beat the most dangerous fighter lol lol lol
      3 languages hahahah 17 year old boy 😂
      Everyone was focused on helping him for no good reason 😂 didn't they know only a few could go on top. They didn't focus on their own progress 😂
      I mean, in normal academies, there is too much competition. No one shares their assignments and all.
      This book is so bad that it makes twilight look good.