Don't believe everything you hear people. This will be one of the best lenses ever made by Nikon and yes I have owned the base version for just shy of 10 years.
Hey Ken, i know that with the higher mp cameras, having vr on a lens is a big help for image clarity, because your technique is magnified so much. Is the VR and extra elements worth the extra $ on a D850 for handheld use? Or stay with the original 24-70 non vr? Having a lower mp ff camera, it would be a no brainer to stick with the original. But im just wondering if that will be or is an issue with all these higher mp cameras coming out? Thanks again for great video!
Hello Ken, Hope you are well. I am always listening over and over again your valuable reviews on older nikon glass. I just found and bought the 24-70 G ED lens for 600 euros and I am very happy about even if we are in the era of mirrorless. Thank you for all the help so far !!!
I have 2 lenses recommended by Ken, the Tamron 15-30 G2, and the 35-70 Nikon, a push pull zoom….my pics are coming out fantastic ! Perfect wedding combo…..thanks Ken, he’s a wizard!!!!
My OLD 24-70mm without VR will be just fine for me. Thanks for saving me from desiring the new lens. That 82mm filter alone is enough for me. I like that my 77mm filers fit most of my lenses.
I still have the 28-70mm 2.8 (the lens that the 24-70 replaced, and first lens with the silent wave motor). It's just as sharp as the 24-70 non-VR, more solid because it's more metal than anything (just like all of Nikon's older lenses, more sturdy and solid and ACTUALLY made in Japan, their newer stuff is a lot of plastic and from Taiwan or something) and it's never failed me. I am the photographer of for a university in CT and I'm also freelance so if this old lens (introduced in 1999) is performing to standard, than I think I can allow my wallet to relax a bit. Thank you, Theoria Apophasis for affirming that I don't REALLY need this lens, (not yet at least).
I just today replaced my beloved 28-70. We'll see how it goes but the sharpness difference does appear to be quite better on the 24-70. I prefer the feeling of my old 28-70 though. Like you said, it is built like a tank.
+TeK “Th3xRaVeNx” RaVeN If you can afford it without stress, by all means get the older/current 24-70 non-VR, but if you want a professional mid-range lens in 2.8 that just as good in some ways and actually superior in other ways, get the 28-70mm 2.8. Read my post above, it was replaced by the 24-70mm but is still as sharp and way more solid. And the best part, you can find them for $500-$900, potentially $1000 less than the old 24-70mm is now.
I have that Tamron 70-200 2.8 as well and as you said the colours are washed out, for example if I was shooting a red flower it was showing it as less saturated red more close to pink. I like the prime lenses more and so far I love the sharpness and colour rendering of my Sigma 85mm 1.4 or Nikon 85mm 1.8G
Hi I've been following your channel and find your advice reviews very helpful. So firstly thanks for the comprehensive reviews. I am looking for a 24-70mm f2.8 for my nikon d810. Would you recommend the tamron 24-70mm VC or nikon 24-70mm f2.8 (without vr). Would greatly appreciate your comments. Also I'm planning of buying a grey import but can't seem to find the insurance you seem to mention that is available in the UK. Cheers!
Thanks theoria. Thats a shame. I read your post just today and unfortunately i already purchased the tamron. Is there a big difference in quality because if the tamron is definately a no go then i guess i can sell and go for a nikon. I tried looking for a review on your channel but had no luck.
I know this is an old post. I’m looking at the Nikon 24-70, non VR, VR version and Tamron 24-70 G2, for my Nikon d750. I shoot landscapes, city scenes, low light, travel. I’m tempted to get the Nikon non VR, but not sure if I’m going to be able to hold it steady. I will probably buy used. Any thoughts to help my decision? Thank you
@nancy, just curious how you made out? My Tamron 24-70 G2 just died and at a cost of 800 cdn $ to repair it I will keep it as a paperweight. Looking at the Nikon 24-70 non vr. Cheers Chris
Ken - your videos are ridiculously informative. I'm wanting a wide lens. I know the 14-24 is a gem but the inability to put filters kinda has me wary. I like long exposure shooting at times. What u say on the 17-35 f2.8??
Hi, I just bought the non vr based on your advice and I can afford the VR version.. please tell me I did the right thing :) or should I make the switch. That's my first 24-70...
+Fahad Al Othman (eFahad) the results are in on the NEWEST VR G 24 70, and its (i made a video about this fact) exactly what i told people it would be, not as sharp, with washed out saturation, it has much more glass in it, it was ONLY designed for the NEW breed of DSLR rolling out next year which are FX sensors with DX pixel pitches. you made the right choice for sure, UNLESS you want a worse less for MUCH MORE money........heehheheeh
+Theoria Apophysis lol thank you for the prompt reply! I'm new to Nikon World and I just made the switch from Canon to the D810 and bunch of lenses and you just have no idea (or maybe you do) how your videos helped out! The only lenses I'm having a cold feet are the 135 dc and 200 fd macro :)
cold feet on the 135mm DC? i have that lens, its the tits. the 105mm F2 DC however is a bit better and more useful in general. which i have both. theres never a regret on either of those lenses
+Theoria Apophasis Great.. the dealer is awaiting my OK on 135m DC :) and will get it tomorrow. Can you imagine it is the only new copy in the whole country (official agent, warranty)? I've got the new 105 but will look up the 105 dc online. Sending love from Saudi Arabia .. HAPPY NEW YEAR !!
Got the old 24-70 second hand for 800 bucks and that lens just sits fine on my D850. Tested the VR version but sharpness was not the same as the old version.
ROCKEYTSir, which one is recommended more suitable for D7100 ---, Nikon 24-70 2.8G AFS OR Nikon 24-70 2.8E VR ? will 24-70 2.8E VR cover more area while taking group photos & Landscapes?
What you are telling sounds very plausible for me. You are for me a fair and honest reviewer! I would like to see some samples, the visible difference between the new and old 24-70 f/2,8 Question: I don't know how this is in de U.S. I read a lot Dutch and German photomagazines, comparing test I like to read. Always there is something I don't understand, In magazine X they "measuring" en testing Nikon VS Canon gear and the result is that Nikon is way better, and I read in magazine Y the Nikon is poor quality and the Canon rocks! Its not just one time, but I see that often. Just don't know who to believe. I am sure when I starting to reading a comparing between these two lenses it will be the same, Magazine X telling this is a huge improvement, and magazine Y telling the difference is not worth the bucks. Is this in the U.S. the same bullsh**? Greetz from the Netherlands.
Hey.. I'm looking at purchasing a macro lenses around 100mm to use on a D600. Opticaly speaking, should I go for the Tokina 100mm f2.8 or Sigma 105mm f2.8? thanks in advance...
+Ricardo Clausen Sigwalt Tokina 100mm 2.8 is far superior in price, build, and quality. if you want longer, youre gonna pay plenty for the Sigma 150mm macro with OS
Hi , I start to become a pro last year and you help me a lot with your work ...every lens I bought (I have all the AI lenses from your videos and some AF) and I can confirm are Amazing , ofc is not easy with AI in some dark situation to focusing but the results are sublime , divine .... so this year I will take again your advice and I will buy AF-s 24-70mm f2.8 NON VR and Tamron 15-30mm f2.8 VC. Thx a lot mate.
+Theoria Apophasis Thanks alot Ken :) One more Question . Between Tamron 15-30mm vc and Nikon 20mm f1.8 G which one is better if I want to use it as the only wide lens for landscape / low light and maybe some videography . I already have tamron 70-200mm f2.8 based on your recommendation and also have a 50mm pancake .
I agree. They really just added VR for the video shooters. It seem like Nikon just slapped this lens together with band-aids on top of band-aids just to make it.
Sorry for the late response. We all are guilty about wanting the best build possible, etc., etc., etc. I have a hard time believing that is less of a lense because of the plastic, which is actually polymer, durable. For example, the best handguns have a polymer frame and it takes an explosive beating, no issues. He says this and that about that lens without actually using it or offering an image comparison of some sort. I know is not bad, why? Because I bought it and is a tremendous lens, the only detail that might be an issue to some, just a little chromatic aberration at the top end which is automatically corrected on PP, not an issue here. I use Capture One Pro.
In my opinion the only lens in the holy trinity that needs updating is the 70-200 due to focus breathing , other than that i think the 14-24 is perfect and 24-70 is somehow OK but boring range
some people buy the zoom lenses to spare space, efforts and money , but i totally agree with you the great difference in image quality .. prime lenses are much better.
Hi again Ken! just a quick question man...i may have the chance to get a Nikon 24-70 VR for a good price....worth or not to upgrade from the previous version...?., i know from a video u had made before ... not so many good things about the VR version....by the way., at your advise i got my first non Nikon lens.....the Tokina 100mm 2.8.....so far very happy about it!!! thanks again , man...!!! REPLY
Theoria Apophasis Ha, thanks mate. Think it has severe onioning too. Which wide/ultrawide AIS Zeiss would you recommend? Something at around 20mm and then maybe something wider.
Guess I'll consider the NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED. Was watching your other video on the NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR which may be exactly what I need to dove-tail with the 70-200 I just got. Thoughts?
i was about to upgrade to the new 24-70 2.8 vr, but after seeing this i need to wait for a proper review of the lens. Im doing video as well, so the vr is necessary.
Because i know lens design...and how it translates into function the failure is in YOUR comprehension im not responsible for your agnosis in the matter
I have the current 24-70mm F/2.8 and it is already too big and lunky for a mid-range zoom; and they made the new one even bigger and heavier?!? What the hell was Nikon thinking?
Theoria Apophasis As usual ken, you made your assessment very clear; I was just chiming in with a rhetorical question for effect. You are my go-to guy on all things Nikon. Keep it up Ken!
i own the old version on my d800, dont think i will be changing it anytime soon... kinda looking foward on the new 200-500mm, maybe get that as a xmas present
Hi Ken, I totally agree that with todays Nikon cameras nobody needs VR on the 24-70mm/2,8 lens. However, I'm convinced that Nikon is preparing the path for the new cameras with 40-or 50+ MPs. As I heard these new high dynamic and high quality MP sensors are very sensitive to lower shutter speeds. Therefore VR will help. I think that this "new" lense acts as a pathfinder for the new Nikon cameras. Sony just introduced the A7RII with 42 MP and internal VR-System. May be Nikon will also use this Sony sensor as they did it already on the Nikon D810.
Odu Kar oh yes, i know theyre prepping for that. its also the SAMPLE RATE, the D810 is technically a 45+ MP sensor in CAPACITY....... but sampled at a much lower rate.
Benjamin Wells it will have the exact same parameters of the 20mm 1.8, which i also own. and recently reviewed. :) 1.8 primes date back to the 1970s, be more specific. :)
Theoria Apophasis Good point! I'm talking about the modern lens lineup that Nikon started fleshing out. They seem like pretty good value and I don't need something as bright and expensive as the 1.4 primes.
Yannick Khong Thanks for your input! I have a Sony mirrorless now and looking to upgrade to an enthusiast level camera some time, with all the easy access controls and whatnot, and I'm debating if going with say, a D610 or 750 and using the various 1.8 primes Nikon offers would fit the bill. I tend to be a prime shooter and these 1.8s look like good value for the performance. Just hoping to get some feedback before spending any hard-earned money.
Havent browsed your (or any nikon) contents in a while. I was happy to see your vid pop up in top 10 as i was wondering about you while I reembarked on my nikon research... you're always a breath of fresh air and as angry as always. Glad to know you're still here doing what youre doing LOL! Thanks again.
Clueless, the only thing similar between the old and new lens are the focal range and aperture. Otherwise they are entirely different lenses. Optical performance is similar but adds VR, internal focusing ( a big improvement for people that use for a living) and even better construction than before. The VR is not superbly important photographically for a lens of this length and this speed but its a godsend for handheld video.
guys, iIneed your advice. I am looking for a midrange zoom for my nikon d810. I have the 16-35 f4 and 70-200 f4 and they are fine but i need something as a walkaround/midrange and the price of the new nikon 24-70 is just way above my budget. P.S. I love my 50 mm prime but sometimes you just want to take one lens on a trip with you... What do you recommend guys?
Please can you have a rant about the 24-70 tamron vc lens , you have never mentioned it😞 btw most your vids are great and the frank commentary is a nice change from the usual BS people talk.
Mark Allen i know a LOT about optics, and my prediction will prove 100% accurate. i didnt hate the D750, i said it was overpriced......which is WAS now its not. it also had a design flaw............now it doesnt. by the way, you NEVER heard me saying the D750 was my fave camera even though i own one NEVER :P
Ok, only saying that you are dismissing something before you have even touched it. For me I'm not too bothered I am happier with a few small primes. Nikon will work towards making things that sell not necessarily something that fits with our view points on image quality/aesthetics. Many people will disagree with your comments on the Sigma Art series for instance. It is ultimately about opinion, your iron face is another persons dream portrait. One persons swirly bokeh is another persons distracting gimmick.
i didnt dismiss it, i said its going to be a bummer with worse optics. great thing is it will make the better one cheaper. it already is cheaper. People can disagree all they want about the "ART" lens , but they dont have the actual experience to make an intelligent disagreement about it FLAT images without depth is a choice nobody has ever said "i want FLAT lifeless images where no depth rendition exists" nobody ever. Opinion? nope. Bokeh is another matter.
Hi I bought the D850 when the prices dropped, and at same time bought with it the Nikon 24-70 VR due to epilepsy hand permanent shake I have to use VR or similar. I have played with the lens and done what I thought fine tuning would sort out. But after time and learning. I have found if I fine tune I can get sharp focus at short distances, but if I move rig to further away, line up on fine tune rig I.e angled ruler on stand all levelled. On tripod, same heights, put timer on camera to stop shaking. But picture shows no sharp focus on any F settings. So can't fine tune for 3M away. Which is normal distance for most photo. I'm doing something wrong? Shit lens period!. I am into landscape, and anything I like just out and about. I have Sigma 105 for macro, Nikon 55-200, Nikon 35 + 40mm but Dx as I used to have a D5500.
I got one today of a rich kid that his uncle give him as a present but now he wants to go to Sony so I got it for cheap dirt! price and it is brand new!!! I will try it tomorrow. by the way, i just got for the cheap price.
I noticed I need to shoot 1/3 or even 2/3 stop faster shutter to get the same sharpness. With a 50mm I now shoot 1/60th where with my D4 and D200 I can shoot 1/40th of a second handheld. A higher pixel density will make it harder to shoot sharp images.
I always watch your reviews before I decide to buy gear. Thanks for your honest and nonconformist opinions.
Great review. Just wondering how does this compare to the Nikon 28-70mm f/3.5-4.5 AF and AF-D (1991-1999) ?
Old 24-70 non vr will be better than the new one?
Don't believe everything you hear people. This will be one of the best lenses ever made by Nikon and yes I have owned the base version for just shy of 10 years.
5 years later and you’re wrong😂😂
@@harleyrider9166 nope…not as good as the iriginal
@@frankiecalabro2617 the original is way better. The VR version is overpriced and not as sharp. Like I said Mr C is still wrong.
I run the original it’s going on my new body permanently. D4s.
Do you suggest for a nikon d850 the nikon 24 70 vr or the tamron 24 70 g2?
What zoom lens with a similar range as the 24-70 would u recommend paired with a D750 for low-light street/walk-around photography?
The Tamron version?
Hey Ken, i know that with the higher mp cameras, having vr on a lens is a big help for image clarity, because your technique is magnified so much. Is the VR and extra elements worth the extra $ on a D850 for handheld use? Or stay with the original 24-70 non vr? Having a lower mp ff camera, it would be a no brainer to stick with the original. But im just wondering if that will be or is an issue with all these higher mp cameras coming out? Thanks again for great video!
Hello Ken, Hope you are well. I am always listening over and over again your valuable reviews on older nikon glass. I just found and bought the 24-70 G ED lens for 600 euros and I am very happy about even if we are in the era of mirrorless. Thank you for all the help so far !!!
I have 2 lenses recommended by Ken, the Tamron 15-30 G2, and the 35-70 Nikon, a push pull zoom….my pics are coming out fantastic ! Perfect wedding combo…..thanks Ken, he’s a wizard!!!!
My OLD 24-70mm without VR will be just fine for me. Thanks for saving me from desiring the new lens. That 82mm filter alone is enough for me. I like that my 77mm filers fit most of my lenses.
Which is the best lens Nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 G vr1, 2, 3 or the new E VR?
Mr Ken..my nikon 24-70mm f/2.8 is stuck at 24mm,can you make a video on fixing it?
I still have the 28-70mm 2.8 (the lens that the 24-70 replaced, and first lens with the silent wave motor). It's just as sharp as the 24-70 non-VR, more solid because it's more metal than anything (just like all of Nikon's older lenses, more sturdy and solid and ACTUALLY made in Japan, their newer stuff is a lot of plastic and from Taiwan or something) and it's never failed me. I am the photographer of for a university in CT and I'm also freelance so if this old lens (introduced in 1999) is performing to standard, than I think I can allow my wallet to relax a bit.
Thank you, Theoria Apophasis for affirming that I don't REALLY need this lens, (not yet at least).
I just today replaced my beloved 28-70. We'll see how it goes but the sharpness difference does appear to be quite better on the 24-70. I prefer the feeling of my old 28-70 though. Like you said, it is built like a tank.
I should mention I only paid $900 from mpex for the new lens. Mint condition with box, hood, case and Hoya filter. Too good to turn down.
I cannot wait for the price drop on the previous/older model 24-70 😁😂
+TeK “Th3xRaVeNx” RaVeN
If you can afford it without stress, by all means get the older/current 24-70 non-VR, but if you want a professional mid-range lens in 2.8 that just as good in some ways and actually superior in other ways, get the 28-70mm 2.8. Read my post above, it was replaced by the 24-70mm but is still as sharp and way more solid. And the best part, you can find them for $500-$900, potentially $1000 less than the old 24-70mm is now.
I have that Tamron 70-200 2.8 as well and as you said the colours are washed out, for example if I was shooting a red flower it was showing it as less saturated red more close to pink. I like the prime lenses more and so far I love the sharpness and colour rendering of my Sigma 85mm 1.4 or Nikon 85mm 1.8G
I am looking to get a 24-70 for my D810. Which is better? Nikon 24-70 2.8 (not vr) or the tamron 24-70 2.8 vc?
did u get ur hands on the new tokina 24-70 ? if its only as good as the nikon 24-70 its gonna b a killer since its only 1000$
Hi I've been following your channel and find your advice reviews very helpful. So firstly thanks for the comprehensive reviews.
I am looking for a 24-70mm f2.8 for my nikon d810. Would you recommend the tamron 24-70mm VC or nikon 24-70mm f2.8 (without vr). Would greatly appreciate your comments. Also I'm planning of buying a grey import but can't seem to find the insurance you seem to mention that is available in the UK.
Cheers!
+Yasin Ch the nikkor without VR
that Tammy lens SUCKS
Thanks theoria.
Thats a shame. I read your post just today and unfortunately i already purchased the tamron. Is there a big difference in quality because if the tamron is definately a no go then i guess i can sell and go for a nikon. I tried looking for a review on your channel but had no luck.
I know this is an old post. I’m looking at the Nikon 24-70, non VR, VR version and Tamron 24-70 G2, for my Nikon d750. I shoot landscapes, city scenes, low light, travel. I’m tempted to get the Nikon non VR, but not sure if I’m going to be able to hold it steady. I will probably buy used. Any thoughts to help my decision? Thank you
@nancy, just curious how you made out? My Tamron 24-70 G2 just died and at a cost of 800 cdn $ to repair it I will keep it as a paperweight.
Looking at the Nikon 24-70 non vr.
Cheers Chris
Ken - your videos are ridiculously informative. I'm wanting a wide lens. I know the 14-24 is a gem but the inability to put filters kinda has me wary. I like long exposure shooting at times. What u say on the 17-35 f2.8??
Hi, I just bought the non vr based on your advice and I can afford the VR version.. please tell me I did the right thing :) or should I make the switch. That's my first 24-70...
+Fahad Al Othman (eFahad) the results are in on the NEWEST VR G 24 70, and its (i made a video about this fact) exactly what i told people it would be, not as sharp, with washed out saturation, it has much more glass in it,
it was ONLY designed for the NEW breed of DSLR rolling out next year which are FX sensors with DX pixel pitches.
you made the right choice for sure, UNLESS you want a worse less for MUCH MORE money........heehheheeh
+Theoria Apophysis lol thank you for the prompt reply! I'm new to Nikon World and I just made the switch from Canon to the D810 and bunch of lenses and you just have no idea (or maybe you do) how your videos helped out! The only lenses I'm having a cold feet are the 135 dc and 200 fd macro :)
cold feet on the 135mm DC? i have that lens, its the tits.
the 105mm F2 DC however is a bit better and more useful in general.
which i have both.
theres never a regret on either of those lenses
+Theoria Apophasis Great.. the dealer is awaiting my OK on 135m DC :) and will get it tomorrow. Can you imagine it is the only new copy in the whole country (official agent, warranty)? I've got the new 105 but will look up the 105 dc online. Sending love from Saudi Arabia .. HAPPY NEW YEAR !!
+Fahad Al Othman (eFahad) thanks man :P
What's your pick for a prime between 18 and 28? No need for AF, just want sharp & great color for landscapes.
+Ryan Karr no need for AF??????? you sure?
Voightlander 28mm 2.8
+Ryan Karr or also 20mm F1.8 Nikkor G
Got the old 24-70 second hand for 800 bucks and that lens just sits fine on my D850. Tested the VR version but sharpness was not the same as the old version.
So older version is sharper?
@@jrlopez5942 Older version has a higher center sharpness. So yes.
Would you recommend the nikkor 24-70 2.8 (not vr) over the tamron 24-70 2.8 vc?
absolutely yes
now I got my answer .. thank you Ken ... it was all my mistake, I listened to Tony ...LOL
...but all you had to do was just listening to Matt.
ROCKEYTSir, which one is recommended more suitable for D7100 ---, Nikon 24-70 2.8G AFS OR Nikon 24-70 2.8E VR ? will 24-70 2.8E VR cover more area while taking group photos & Landscapes?
What you are telling sounds very plausible for me. You are for me a fair and honest reviewer!
I would like to see some samples, the visible difference between the new and old 24-70 f/2,8
Question:
I don't know how this is in de U.S. I read a lot Dutch and German photomagazines, comparing test I like to read. Always there is something I don't understand, In magazine X they "measuring" en testing Nikon VS Canon gear and the result is that Nikon is way better, and I read in magazine Y the Nikon is poor quality and the Canon rocks! Its not just one time, but I see that often. Just don't know who to believe.
I am sure when I starting to reading a comparing between these two lenses it will be the same, Magazine X telling this is a huge improvement, and magazine Y telling the difference is not worth the bucks. Is this in the U.S. the same bullsh**?
Greetz from the Netherlands.
Would you recommend the older version?
of what?
The Nikon 24-70 without VR
Hey.. I'm looking at purchasing a macro lenses around 100mm to use on a D600.
Opticaly speaking, should I go for the Tokina 100mm f2.8 or Sigma 105mm f2.8?
thanks in advance...
+Ricardo Clausen Sigwalt Tokina 100mm 2.8 is far superior in price, build, and quality.
if you want longer, youre gonna pay plenty for the Sigma 150mm macro with OS
+Theoria Apophasis Thanks a lot. You're awesome!
Very nice video.. keep up the good work.. cheers
Best 24x70 f2.8 that fits Nikon?
Hi , I start to become a pro last year and you help me a lot with your work ...every lens I bought (I have all the AI lenses from your videos and some AF) and I can confirm are Amazing , ofc is not easy with AI in some dark situation to focusing but the results are sublime , divine .... so this year I will take again your advice and I will buy AF-s 24-70mm f2.8 NON VR and Tamron 15-30mm f2.8 VC. Thx a lot mate.
Thanks Ken , Hows about the new Tokina 24-70mm f2.8 ? Its much cheaper but I don't know about the lens Quality . i would appreciate your help
+Omid Ph no way on that lens
+Theoria Apophasis Thanks alot Ken :)
One more Question . Between Tamron 15-30mm vc and Nikon 20mm f1.8 G which one is better if I want to use it as the only wide lens for landscape / low light and maybe some videography . I already have tamron 70-200mm f2.8 based on your recommendation and also have a 50mm pancake .
both of those are excellent
Thanks again :)
I agree.
They really just added VR for the video shooters. It seem like Nikon just slapped this lens together with band-aids on top of band-aids just to make it.
Michael Zaritheny its huge, has too much glass, and too expensive
at LEAST it made the REAL 24-70 drop in price, so thats a GOOD thing
Sorry for the late response. We all are guilty about wanting the best build possible, etc., etc., etc. I have a hard time believing that is less of a lense because of the plastic, which is actually polymer, durable. For example, the best handguns have a polymer frame and it takes an explosive beating, no issues. He says this and that about that lens without actually using it or offering an image comparison of some sort. I know is not bad, why? Because I bought it and is a tremendous lens, the only detail that might be an issue to some, just a little chromatic aberration at the top end which is automatically corrected on PP, not an issue here. I use Capture One Pro.
In my opinion the only lens in the holy trinity that needs updating is the 70-200 due to focus breathing , other than that i think the 14-24 is perfect and 24-70 is somehow OK but boring range
some people buy the zoom lenses to spare space, efforts and money , but i totally agree with you the great difference in image quality .. prime lenses are much better.
Did you ever test the newest 24-70 2.8 VR lens by Nikon? Thinking about purchasing it.
yes, dont get it, get the "older" G version
Theoria Apophasis should I trade in my Nikon 105mm 1.4 for the 70-200mm 2.8 VR?
Hi again Ken! just a quick question man...i may have the chance to get a Nikon 24-70 VR for a good price....worth or not to upgrade from the previous version...?., i know from a video u had made before ... not so many good things about the VR version....by the way., at your advise i got my first non Nikon lens.....the Tokina 100mm 2.8.....so far very happy about it!!! thanks again , man...!!!
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"synthesizing a human and producing a big lump of flesh"
hehe, hey ken ever watch full metal alchemist?
Hi Ken, thoughts on the Tamron 24-70mm f/2.8 VC please? Thanks mate!
that lens sucks :/
Theoria Apophasis Ha, thanks mate. Think it has severe onioning too. Which wide/ultrawide AIS Zeiss would you recommend? Something at around 20mm and then maybe something wider.
zeiss ultrawide angles are not that great
Guess I'll consider the NIKKOR 14-24mm f/2.8G ED.
Was watching your other video on the NIKKOR 24-85mm f/3.5-4.5G ED VR which may be exactly what I need to dove-tail with the 70-200 I just got. Thoughts?
Actually scratch that. I'm getting the Nikkor 24-70 f/2.8E ED VR. Thanks.
I guess I won't be buying a 24-70 lens of any kind.
i was about to upgrade to the new 24-70 2.8 vr, but after seeing this i need to wait for a proper review of the lens. Im doing video as well, so the vr is necessary.
+azizul zulzaha its not the VR addition that makes it inferior.
they changed the lens design.
yeah, i was hoping they slam in just the VR.
nooooope, its been wholly redesigned :)
+Mrs. Phyllis Stephens testing from others proves 100% the lens is EXACTLY as i predicted it would be.
WIN on my part. Of course.
Because i know lens design...and how it translates into function
the failure is in YOUR comprehension
im not responsible for your agnosis in the matter
I have the current 24-70mm F/2.8 and it is already too big and lunky for a mid-range zoom; and they made the new one even bigger and heavier?!? What the hell was Nikon thinking?
Tom Burchill well i already said what they were thinking, and why
Theoria Apophasis As usual ken, you made your assessment very clear; I was just chiming in with a rhetorical question for effect. You are my go-to guy on all things Nikon. Keep it up Ken!
back to videos tonight now that im mostly recovered from being sick
Sorry but Tamron 24-70mm VC not faster than Nikon even first version) With love from Russia)
I wish you would make up your mind! In one of your other videos (top 14 lenses...) you said "GET THE 24-70!"
he has been talking about the G version the NON VR one
i own the old version on my d800, dont think i will be changing it anytime soon... kinda looking foward on the new 200-500mm, maybe get that as a xmas present
Hi Ken, I totally agree that with todays Nikon cameras nobody needs VR on the 24-70mm/2,8 lens. However, I'm convinced that Nikon is preparing the path for the new cameras with 40-or 50+ MPs. As I heard these new high dynamic and high quality MP sensors are very sensitive to lower shutter speeds. Therefore VR will help. I think that this "new" lense acts as a pathfinder for the new Nikon cameras. Sony just introduced the A7RII with 42 MP and internal VR-System. May be Nikon will also use this Sony sensor as they did it already on the Nikon D810.
Odu Kar oh yes, i know theyre prepping for that.
its also the SAMPLE RATE, the D810 is technically a 45+ MP sensor in CAPACITY....... but sampled at a much lower rate.
Theoria Apophasis "technically a 45+ MP sensor" Uh, what?
scaled up , if the sensor was scaled up with the same photosite density.
What zoom with af do you recommend for my d850 in a similar range?
same,, 24 70 2.8 G2 Tamron
@@KenTheoriaApophasis one more suggestion for a af 35mm prime , weather sealed?
What do you predict out of the new 24mm f1.8 prime? Or, what do you generally think of Nikon's f1.8 prime series of lenses?
Benjamin Wells it will have the exact same parameters of the 20mm 1.8, which i also own.
and recently reviewed. :)
1.8 primes date back to the 1970s, be more specific. :)
Theoria Apophasis Good point! I'm talking about the modern lens lineup that Nikon started fleshing out. They seem like pretty good value and I don't need something as bright and expensive as the 1.4 primes.
almost nobody needs (many WANT) 1.4 lenses.
its a GLASSHOLE premise people think they need that stuff
Yannick Khong Thanks for your input! I have a Sony mirrorless now and looking to upgrade to an enthusiast level camera some time, with all the easy access controls and whatnot, and I'm debating if going with say, a D610 or 750 and using the various 1.8 primes Nikon offers would fit the bill. I tend to be a prime shooter and these 1.8s look like good value for the performance. Just hoping to get some feedback before spending any hard-earned money.
D750
Not sure if you'll see this but I was wondering if I should grab the Nikon 24-70 non VR or the Tamron 24-70 G2?
Tech always goes backwards. Builtin obsolescence also builtin to every Nikon camera.
+Dave Patheyjohns old D3 still works great.
all cameras are built that way, what makes you think its only Nikon?
ROFL
I had this lens. It was awful. Just like you said - very sharp, but flat. It was also a huge bazooka. Not nice to carry around.
Havent browsed your (or any nikon) contents in a while. I was happy to see your vid pop up in top 10 as i was wondering about you while I reembarked on my nikon research... you're always a breath of fresh air and as angry as always. Glad to know you're still here doing what youre doing LOL! Thanks again.
Clueless, the only thing similar between the old and new lens are the focal range and aperture. Otherwise they are entirely different lenses. Optical performance is similar but adds VR, internal focusing ( a big improvement for people that use for a living) and even better construction than before. The VR is not superbly important photographically for a lens of this length and this speed but its a godsend for handheld video.
You made this video almost 2 years ago. Were you right?
kinda....
Whats your views on The Nikon 17-35 2.8?
+1972paradise sticks finger down throat :P Aaack
U know that lens has 2 plastic elements in it??? heheheheheheh!!! yes
+Theoria Apophasis
Ohh, I never knew that.. I Think i'll just buy the 16-35 and call it a day lol
Is the 28-70mm f/2.8D aka The Beast a hair sharper than the 24-70mm f2.8G.
And suddenly Craig's List is flooded with 24-70 lenses!
Brad Akkerman GOOD, let the idiots sell off the GOOD lenses and clammer after the "new crap" :)
100% accurate......
I only want bokeh, that is more important than everything else. But you must know to usedt it right. That is the beauty of it.
Johan den Hertog same here
guys, iIneed your advice. I am looking for a midrange zoom for my nikon d810. I have the 16-35 f4 and 70-200 f4 and they are fine but i need something as a walkaround/midrange and the price of the new nikon 24-70 is just way above my budget. P.S. I love my 50 mm prime but sometimes you just want to take one lens on a trip with you... What do you recommend guys?
Better get the trusty old 24-70 before it goes extinct.
What do you think about the Tamron 24mm-70mm 2.8 lense? as compared to the Nikon lense.
that tammy lens SUCKS
can you please impart some lens wisdom one everyone. What to look for and what to avoid like the plague
***** ohhh ive already made videos on that
Please can you have a rant about the 24-70 tamron vc lens , you have never mentioned it😞 btw most your vids are great and the frank commentary is a nice change from the usual BS people talk.
+Mike Sydney sure thing...... it sucks dog nuggets :)
however the new one coming out might be great, nobody knows yet.
+Theoria Apophasis lol thought you might say that it is nearly as big and ugly as the new nikon, cheers.
I know you loved the new 70-200, so I guess your saying that the build will be different on the 24-70 from the new 70-200?
i have the NEW 70 200, $2800, ive made many vids on it
I know I've seen that video. I would think that Nikon would make the same caliber lens in the new 24-70 as they did with the new 70-200.
They're making the 24-70 LONGER!? WTF?
patio87 and wider, it has 82mm filter
optical necessity to do that, AND add 5 more glass elements
I think the VR requires a larger image circle too. That adds beef
IS THE OLDER 24-70 RUGGED ENOUGH FOR LANDSCAPES?
sure it is, but thats hardly a landscape lens.
what would you recommend instead (considering I need a polariser otherwise id have the tammy 15-30 obvs!)
for what camera
d810, all tripod work really
Are you gonna buy it???
You haven't seen the lens yet, at least give it a bash before bashing it. I remember you hating the D750 before you shot with it.
Mark Allen i know a LOT about optics, and my prediction will prove 100% accurate.
i didnt hate the D750, i said it was overpriced......which is WAS
now its not.
it also had a design flaw............now it doesnt.
by the way, you NEVER heard me saying the D750 was my fave camera even though i own one
NEVER :P
Ok, only saying that you are dismissing something before you have even touched it. For me I'm not too bothered I am happier with a few small primes.
Nikon will work towards making things that sell not necessarily something that fits with our view points on image quality/aesthetics. Many people will disagree with your comments on the Sigma Art series for instance.
It is ultimately about opinion, your iron face is another persons dream portrait. One persons swirly bokeh is another persons distracting gimmick.
i didnt dismiss it, i said its going to be a bummer with worse optics.
great thing is it will make the better one cheaper.
it already is cheaper.
People can disagree all they want about the "ART" lens , but they dont have the actual experience to make an intelligent disagreement about it
FLAT images without depth is a choice nobody has ever said "i want FLAT lifeless images where no depth rendition exists"
nobody ever.
Opinion? nope.
Bokeh is another matter.
Il leave that one be no real point. Do you have any online galleries?
if you think tons of experience vs (someone elses) NO experience is "no point" then theres a error in your "logic circuit"
hehe ;)
Sorry dude, but you are wrong!
that backdrop is fucking creepy
SuperLitherland eheheheeh, well ive got 8 more backdrops, ill have to change it
So does someone need to spank ken since this new lens isn't sharper than the old? lol
Renditional is not a word, just FYI.
Jeff Watson actually, it is.
You have a link to the definition?
Nice too see what you look like! I expected a biker dude.
+auxmike bikers? hell no, hate em
Hi I bought the D850 when the prices dropped, and at same time bought with it the Nikon 24-70 VR due to epilepsy hand permanent shake I have to use VR or similar. I have played with the lens and done what I thought fine tuning would sort out. But after time and learning. I have found if I fine tune I can get sharp focus at short distances, but if I move rig to further away, line up on fine tune rig I.e angled ruler on stand all levelled. On tripod, same heights, put timer on camera to stop shaking. But picture shows no sharp focus on any F settings. So can't fine tune for 3M away. Which is normal distance for most photo. I'm doing something wrong? Shit lens period!. I am into landscape, and anything I like just out and about. I have Sigma 105 for macro, Nikon 55-200, Nikon 35 + 40mm but Dx as I used to have a D5500.
yeah....
I got one today of a rich kid that his uncle give him as a present but now he wants to go to Sony so I got it for cheap dirt! price and it is brand new!!! I will try it tomorrow. by the way, i just got for the cheap price.
Yashika Y35 is the best camera i ever used. The Image is better than Nikkor 24-70mm ED VR lens. Try it your self XD
And still a lot of pro's will jump to this one. Also VR is something you din't need 5 years ago, but you will when you start to shoot more megapixels.
zerixos i shop 36MP on my pair of D810, i still dont need it there
I noticed I need to shoot 1/3 or even 2/3 stop faster shutter to get the same sharpness. With a 50mm I now shoot 1/60th where with my D4 and D200 I can shoot 1/40th of a second handheld. A higher pixel density will make it harder to shoot sharp images.
Ive had nothing but great results with this lens, stopping down to 1/10th of a second without ANY motion blur. This video is bad information.