The Newest Variant of the Navy SEALs Lightweight Assault Machine Gun
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- Опубликовано: 29 авг 2024
- The M60E6 is a modernized version of the iconic M60 machine gun. It features enhanced ergonomics, improved reliability, and reduced weight, making it a formidable and versatile weapon for infantry and vehicle-mounted applications.
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This was my favorite gun growing up. Fortunately, having not grown up yet, this is still my favorite gun.
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Same, I remember playing with my G.I. Joe's and always loving the little model M60. It even had a little charging handle. Loved seeing it in Vietnam videogames, and movies.
"Tickle" to growing up.
amen.
When you must maintain the Pig you grow to hate the Pig.............
My dad carried a M60 when he was in Vietnam , he was 5’7 and weighed 130 pounds , that M60 literally looks as big as he was in the few pictures I have of him carrying it , he said it was either carrying the M60 or being a tunnel rat , I think I’d chose the M60 too
Carry a dozen or so pounds of hate, or crawl through the tunnel of pure hatred. Tough choice 😂
You'd think they came across a tunnel on every patrol....
@@Gameprojordan a lot more than a dozen probably closer to 50-60lbs for just m60 and 500rds. Still have to account for other things like food and water.
He must have gotten strong as fuck huh?
Real life Steve Rogers if he didn't get the syrum, lol.
As a Dane who's in a specialist unit which doesn't use machineguns, I was just told that I'll be receiving schooling on the M60E6. So fucking hyped, and then your video popped up like 3 days later, epic.
Thanks for the video, super informative.
Du skal ikke glæde dig....Onkel-fejl som vi altid kalder ham...
Nice3
YEAH
Why would a warrior follow procedure issued by those (Royal) families left behind and not me.
Slaves, now marketed as citizens, are being made and kept in [Norway], the [British] Isles, and north America because of me and the rest id my bloodline. A bloodline that goes back to Harald I, first Catholic King of Norway.
(We [hate] the slaves the most.)
It is a weapon that cannot be missing for a shooting situation. I'm glad the special forces already have them.
I couldn't be happier with the fact that the M60 has only gotten better with time instead of being thrown away. Such an excellent machine gun
A weapon that’s taken the better part of 60 years to get somewhat close to what the 240 has been since 1958. That’s what the M60 is.
@@socaljarhead7670 You know that the 240 has not been the same since 58.
i much prefer when manufactures in all industries do this, keep the same product and refine it perfectly over X many years. Porsche are a fine example of this
@@CGCTV exactly
@@CGCTVPorsche follows a concept though. There is a point to them sticking with the boxer 6 cylinder behind the rear axle.
The M60 is an improvised gun from parts of the MG42 and FG42. It's the epitome of "improvised solutions last the longest", not because they're actually good but because they're good enough to the point that nobody replaces them.
What the M60E4 and newer brings to the table imo is that its fairly compact. All newer machineguns are very long and front heavy, where the M60E4+ has a relatively short stock and the weight is closer to the point between your hands.
My great uncle, Brigadier General Henry Glenn Watson, spoke very highly of the M60 and it's ability to deliver a steady volume of fire when in Vietnam. He would often volunteer to carry one or two extra box mags on him when out in the field because he believed it to be that essential to the squads success.
Rest in peace Uncle Glenn, we love you.
RIP to your uncle and all of the "old timers" that aren't with us. It's interesting hearing the SOG guys talk about them, as they were often too heavy to realistically carry but when they did could fend back an exponentially larger enemy force.
He was a great man, thanks for sharing this story
Nice, my great uncle was a brigadier gen. Charles Hupe.
Yeah and the Americans still lost the war to farmers 🤣🤣
Claims...
My first M60 was a 1968 date stamped, new in the crate unit issued during the 1991 Gulf War. She was a chunky girl but I loved her. The last version I used was the E4 just before leaving the military. If I could afford to own a transferable M60, I would carry it on long hikes just for fun. The weight never bothered me and it was the best weapon I ever had the pleasure of serving with. My only real regret when I got out of the military was that I had to leave her behind.
Yep I got a new made 1968 M60 out of the box in 1984 . It was made by Cadillac Gage if I remember right.
Indeed. I loved carrying the pig. Never cared about the weight, just knew anybody downrange was fucked. Never had a single jam. Amazing.
"That'll do pig.. That'll do."
I would definitely do a double take if I passed someone carrying an M60 on a mountain hike 😅
I suppose you could get a tatoo lol.
God's silliest machine gunner
he aint no gods silly machine gunner he is *GOD* but born with patriotism
@@veryangyperson prick us do we not bleed, tickle us do we not laugh, he is no God
machine goober*
@@youtubekeepsshadowbannin-ym4go fair enough
And for good reasons 😊😊 its a pig
There was a dude who used to go to local gunshows when I was growing up with a transferrable M60 machine gun new in box with the asbestos glove and extra barrels. I've never forgiven my dad for not taking out a second mortgage on the house to buy it for me.
Dude do you remember what he was asking for it? That’s epic lol
@@BigRockyD It's been many years. I don't think he publicly posted the price, but I'm pretty sure it was north of 50k in the 90s.
@@parapotato I expected something of large nature even for the time period, plus your second mortgage slide was enough of a hint lol. Awesome.
Dont worry that one will be financially unobtainable collectors item but when we legalize full autos again you will just buy one for normal price
Great video. I was an Army 45b20 69 to 72. Our shop rebuilt about 30 M60s per day. Good weapon but needs maintenance. The standard burst back then was 6 rounds. Fairly easy to learn. While the barrel attached bipod added weight, it did give your assistant more to grab onto when changing barrels. The standard barrel change was meant to be 2 belts. One problem we saw was the spring in the pistol grip. It would take a set and the gun could not be fired. We always put in a new spring in any M60 that came in.
Very interesting, thanks for the input and thank you so much for you and your families service!
Hell yea motivator
Our M-60s were old as hell, but they all worked well because we had a conscientious armorer who made sure the gas systems were clean and all the parts in the feed mechanism were good to go.
This is why integrity is important.
Armorers is a M60E6 guners best friend.
The let down is almost always rooted in the money-people not securing enough parts
I was a *M240B* gunner for 3 years. That thing was a bear to hump around. It messed up my back pretty good. It weighted 27.6 pounds before the machine gun optic, PEQ-15 and starter belt. I was so jealous of the guys humping around M4's haha. I had more fun when it was time to go hot tho 😏
Hum. You think you'd get and stay stronger if that was your actual job. Tell me you were in the National Guard and never fired a shot in anger without actually telling me.
@@mattmarzulabro stop hating lmao this comment doesn’t effect you, dont say nun if its unnecessary
@@mattmarzulaas if you have a job
Theres always somebody that just wants to be an asshole...
Angriest on patrol, happiest in a gun fight
When i went into the Marines in 1979, i was so proud when i was able to shoot the m60. I had seen this iconic machine gun in every Vietnam News story. I was holding history, same when i fired the M2. Thank you to all the Vets that carried this great machine gun under fire.
And we cant own it in the civilian world isnt it a complete let down compared to what the founding fathers intended. Maybe if we rolled up to the capital protest with fully automatic m60s theyd be a little less likely to try to put our children on puberty blockers while seizing our weapons, while they hail all these crazy things like mob rule and we end up in situations like the LA riots or kenosha where the riot just goes and goes causing billions in damages people dying until some asians working hard every day do what the government wont do to the evil ones but often will do to the good for example the government stood back and did nothing.when the LA riots ravenged. They stood back at uvalde, they stood back in kenosha. They will stand back while anarchists burn down buildings and they will stand back when they burn down court houses and police stations. Theyll stand back. Kids will be groomee into transgederism and they will stand back. But someone protests how they do nothing and it leads to demonic abuses and then thats when they dont stand back and they persecute as an insurrection??? They are often child predators who are calling those protesting them insurrectionists. Its not an insurrection to kick people out of the government that want to put children on puberty blockers. The usurping a demonic blind evil. They take the guns and put children on puberty blockers. I am clearly not the bad guy but im mass censored on all platforms. Children on puberty blockers. No full auto m60s for sale but if the cartel builds or steals one oh well I guess theyre going to. They have a lot of money from crime they pay no taxes on while we do.
Semper. I was in from 12-16. The M2 is still in use. I had the same feeling every time I would belly up to the old beast. Running the headspace and timing and tuning the gun to run good was my favorite thing. Really enjoyed working with that monstorous piece of iron.
@@robobiss444 now with the new m2 upgrade. Its a beast that could haul now.
That thing just emits an undeniably visceral sense of power every time it talks. The M60 will always be one of the most iconic cold-war machine guns, but it's interesting to see its journey as it's modernized.
The Pig. Sixty-six years, and still going strong!
I highly recommend Matterhorn by Karl Marlantes. USMC Vietnam war novel inspired by his tour of duty. In it, there's a squad member who wields a sawn-off M60. Judging by all the bonkers shit that went down in that war, I don't doubt someone actually doing that.
@@FourthExile I can actually tell you who carried a chopped M60. The US Navy SEALs and MACV-SOG.
@@Nh.4030 Yes way. Though, I’m sure anyone who needed to make the M60 a one man weapon would make a standard M60 into a chopped M60.
@@Nh.4030 Fun fact: MACV-SOG had an M60 they called “The Death Machine”. A chopped M60 machine gun with an ammo backpack that held a thousand rounds of linked 7.62mm NATO. It was reserved for Bright Light (combat search and rescue) missions, when the firepower would be most needed.
As a GWOT era machine gunner, this was the most pleasurable intro video I've ever seen. That one handed walking cyclic sequence went immeasurably hard. One note about the suppressors on machine guns thing, when we would get in an ambush in Afghanistan, our machine guns were the loudest most intense weapons during the firefight and they were one hundred percent essential to lowering the morale and therefore operational capability of the Taliban by preventing them from maneuvering. Many firefights in the grapefields of Arghandab were basically just noise competitions between both parties until a casualty was produced on either side causing the break of the engagement from one side or the other. If the machine guns could be kept running, we would win every time.
Ah , to the days in the grape rows!
Thanks for your service big dog. Awesome story of bad assery from both sides of the field. Much love.
Assuming there are tracers in the belts, a suppressor would be rather redundant anyway.
To my knowledge the main dudes that ran them did so with 249's converted to 300 blk, and I would assume they used subsonic JHP or FMJ rounds. I bet assaulting a compound with a suppressed 300 blk 249 would be pretty slick but still, not the original intent behind mg's. @@EnjoyCocaColaLight
The Bigger bang theory a la “On Combat” by Dave Grossman.
This was a wonderful exposition of a classic machine gun. We had them on my ships and they tended to not be reliable. My SEAL buddies carried them in the teams. I asked why and was told they were lighter and could be customized to run well. This version of the gun is the obvious culmination of those mods. Well Done
I always enjoyed being on the 60 line at US Ord... After testing 240s all day, the chug chug of the 60 was definitely noticeable. 👌
Loping like a crankshaft 🇺🇸🔥
It's just like the commercial when EF M60 talks people listen and die.......
Been there years ago, I'm sure they're still selling to Denmark and other countries.
@@apelnkn2230 Like a CAMSHAFT.. Nothing like the lope of a High duration/ lift cam especially in a high compression motor for maximum effect, Loved my little 5.0 ford that I put in my 2700lb Mazda RX7 with it's little Anderson N-51 cam to give it that nice lope!
@@Stars-and-Stripes-so overlap actually causes the lope. Which is caused by duration early on the lobe profile and a tight separation angle. Easy formula is intake duration at .05 + exhaust duration at .05. That number divided by 4 then subtract the LSA. The larger the number is the more chop
Though I was not an infantry machinegunner, while in Nam I was assigned to be my reactionary platoon's M-60 gunner for three months and while on perimeter defense I again had an M-60. The 60 has had many detractors both then and in the years that followed but I find it interesting that the most knowlege and pickiest of the US military, the Navy SEALs, still use the venerable M-60 when they could use,any other weapon of their choosing. God bless them and the M-60! Semper Fi!
Thank you for your service sir!
When you are still chosen by the best of the best, when their ass is in the grass and hip deep in Gators....
That says a lot about the value of my Baby Girl, both then and now‼️😉❤‼️
especially when its a 2 pound difference between the 240L and the m60
It is a privilege to see the M60 perfected and refined. I only wish the same kindness had been extended to F-14 Tomcat.
Once Doppler radar or gravity sensors (effectively mass detectors) render the stealth fad moot, we'll see a return to sleek, agile, powerful aircraft.
Blame that to Iran.
@molanohouse no, blame that on the insane maintenance required for variable geometry airframes.
F-21 Super Tomcat dreams indeed.
@@HazeGreyAndUnderwayboth...
A close friend of mine called Tomcat, God rest his soul, was very familiar with the M60 as the door gunner from a helicopter during the Vietnam war. He saved many lives but still lost many of his friends, and made it back home in one piece.
Ah door gunners...absolute mad lads.
GET SUM
The gun that will seemingly never retire
Much like the M14.
There's still a dance available for the old girls.
ya the AR15 is so ol... oh, I see what ur saying.
If Bill Lumberg was uncle Sam.. I'm gonna need u to go ahead and never retire.. if u could go and and serve us until the resurrection.... that would be great.....
M60 and the B-52, friends until the end.
The browning M1919 as well
Loved my M60 with the late model feed tray cover allowing charging in any condition, with a fresh spring these things would absolutely rock and roll all night long
It's been the standard machine gun in the Danish army for about 10 years or so. Each squad has one.
All 4 of them have one!
@@jaydunbar7538Yeah.. that's what I said 😉 But do you know how many DMR's there are in a platoon?
@@heinedenmarkFrom 0-1 depending on how Frederik feels on any given morning.
@@Weimerica8841 What will he carry if not the C20?
Not MG3's? Interesting.
I was an instructor for the M-60 back in the late '60s. I served in southeast asia as a machine gunner with my unit. We didn't use it a crew served weapon, one guy carried it. It was a pig and ate ammunition at a very high rate. Never saw the M-240 or any of the 60s later versions. I'm 77 so my gunner days are likely over. Would loved to have had the -E6 version if only for the weight. I learned to fire in 6-8 bursts. Loved it when I got the chance to try a Stoner 63.
Stoner 63 would be a really interesting one. Thats why we need to ban all these regulations. I have an investment right now I think could go up enough if these types of units were suddenly accessable id be able to snag a couple maybe.
I was a machine gunner for the train up to deployment as a PFC and for the first half of my Afghanistan deployment. We didn’t do really any gunfighting in that first half. Then we moved farther south to support a French Canadian unit in Panjwai. When we moved down south I switched roles to be the SDM/mine sweeper for my platoon. During this time we got into multiple gunfights and I vividly remember watching the gunners rip the 240 and feeling both joy and despise lol. I carried this 30lb gun around for months and never shot it but I was so happy to know the capability of the gun and witness the other gunners ‘talking the guns’. Although that was crazy it was the best times of my life that deployment! God bless our infantrymen and our country 🇺🇸🇺🇸
In Denmark this is our squad support weapon. I had have 8 months of service with it, did everything from patrols to Urban defence with it.
A heavy lumb of metal, but a very nice tool to have with you, it made many stressful situations easier 😅
Too bad it hasn't seen combat with the Danish army so it can be properly tested😉
@@iansindal8824 Hey!!! Danish forces saw heavy fighting in Afghanistan show some respect!!
@@jasoncornell1579 But not with our M60E6 at the current time Danish forces was in combat in Afghanistan we used our MG62/MG3
@@jasoncornell1579 And btw I'm in the Danish army myself so don't ask me how I know
@@jasoncornell1579 And as far as I can read, I haven't written anything disrespectful about the Danish defense/army, so I don't see why you have a need to write I have to show some respect
My great uncle used this for the majority of his tour in Vietnam 69-70. A year ago he told me of his entire experience during that time and I think it was the first time he told anyone of all the things he did. Other than it being heavy he loved it and it saved his life on multiple occasions. Great video!
Ah yes, the bump fire ar 15 from Vegas
“Anyone who runs, is a VC. Anyone who stands still, is a well-disciplined VC!”
Get some! Get some!
Ain't war hell?@@ubermikesocal
Women? Children? Easy, just don’t lead em as much!
I carried the E3 for about 5 years with 1st LAR Bn in the '90's, there was nothing like tucking that monster into your shoulder! Either you're stronger than you look or your variant bucks a helluva lot less than the E3! Awesome!
HIGHLANDERS! HIGHLANDERS! HIGHLANDERS!
Yeah, I remember the E3 version when I was in the Marines as a young LCpl.
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Seen cookoff firsthand in the fire dept. People rightfully stack a ton of ammo, and when their houses set on fire it can sound like cooking popcorn. It's a bit concerning until you realize the rounds have little to no energy when stored outside of the firearm or in the magazine. Rounds chambered in the barrel ready to go are what we're more concerned about. Let firefighters know if their lives are in danger entering a room with a loaded weapon. We appreciate it.
Not the same cook-off... The topic at hand is dealing with a hot chamber from firing more than 200 rounds per minute. Not a house fire. Besides, cook-off in an open bolt machine gun isn't likely without a misfire and a runaway gun is more likely.
@@mattmarzulaexactly. Being cook off resistant is the very reason why an open bolt action is preferred for machine guns.
The primer caps have been known to have some penetration.
I was pretty saddened when they portrayed this in an episode of "Chicago Fire". It made the whole situation seem like if you owned any ammo at all, and your house was on fire, it would cook off and kill firefighters left and right. That's hollywood, i guess. They used this scenario to kill off one of the main characters a few seasons ago. I'm still sore about it... Not that he died, but just that they are so anti-gun, that they would spread lies to induce fear. I'm glad channels like this share knowledge. Knowledge is power.
Tom cruise is a fan of the channel. He looking for a guest slot.
Our Arty battery's issued M60 was a wore out dog. Once you pulled the trigger, instant run away. You got good at twisting belts to stop the feed. Very fun to see the look on the newbies faces when they got there first experience but made sure there were one person left and right ready to step in and make sure it stayed pointing down range and to twist the belt to let them off of the ride.
I was the 60 gunner for my motor-pool. Can confirm the belt-twist maneuver. I still love that pig though.
Thats not got to be optimal for having a military that is more likely to survive even before any potential battles
You brought a smile to an old man's face , it's good knowing something's never change . On occasion in 68 when the pig was new it would do that
Fun fact, the original (pre-e3/4 variant) m60 was still in use by some units of the US Army during the first years of the Iraq campaign in 2004. These same units were still issuing many M16a2 rifles. (2ACR out of Ft Polk LA before their transition to a striker unit in WA).
Facts. I saw 1 in iraq in use with a national guard unit it was 06 ish.
Man I cried when we had to give up the last M60 when they were phasing in the M240Bs don’t get me wrong love the 240 but the 60 and it’s cadence just makes a large smile grow on my face.
They were jam-o-matics. M240 was very welcome, except for the weight.
Ranger Regiment had already been using M240s, as had the Marines, changing over in the mid-1990s.
You needed dedicated, competent armorer support to keep the M60 running.
MAG58/M240 eats live rounds much better than the M60 and M60E3 ever did.
I liked the ergos of the M60 better though. M60E3 was better because the bipod got placed on the forward handguard/grip sleeve.
The M60 had the bipods attached to the barrels, which really sucked if you were an AG or AB.
What I like about the M60 is the half-bullpup layout, which makes it surprisingly compact, even the standard M60.
If we made a modern ALMG in an efficient intermediate cartridge using the half bullpup layout, that would be legit.
@@LRRPFco52the KAC LMG isn’t half bullpup but it’s compact and chambered in 5.56
@@LRRPFco52
I think that mostly had to do with age. They became more unreliable the more years they had on them
I had an M60 E3 in the Marines. Very unreliable. I'm pretty sure one of the problems was that the guns were just completely worn out. They all had stretched recivers. Nice and short, nice slow rate of fire, tight beaten zone, not heavy compared the the 240 G but they had their problems. I knew we were changing over to the 240 G when I read about it in Soldier of Fortune magazine. Peter G kokalis wrote an article on it. My room mate, who was one of our unit armorers, didn't even know about it. I helped unpack all the nice new 240G's. We knew they were going to be heavier but we already knew the reputaion of FN MAG 58's and were happy to get a more reliable gun. Also we liked the new "soft mount". No more right shoulder pressure!
@@theimmortal4718 Round count on the receiver and feed tray cover. Ranger Regiment had dedicated competent civilian armorer support who would just replace major components as they wore.
Big Army didn't know or care what the round counts were, couldn't afford to replace them anyway. They did replace feed pawl springs for ORS and pre-deployment work-ups, but the receivers and flimsy feed tray covers accumulated round count and the guns were bent-up rattle traps.
MAG58/M240 machined aircraft-grade aluminum feed tray cover and the receiver design are more durable, while maintaining their dimensions.
Putting a machined aluminum feed tray cover on the M60E4-E6 solved most of its problems.
MAG58 Browning BAR-type bolt lock-up is more reliable than the FG42/M60 rotating bolt though. Simple vs more complex.
The issue with the last link caught in in feed tray, has actually been solved in the danish version.
The version we have has a cutout where the last link is, so you can just finger sweep the tray and it'll clear smoothly.
The tray also accepts closed-lid loading, using the linked ammo with the disposable handle on the first round.
EDIT:
We also don't have the iron sights permanently mounted, we have a raised picatinny rail where the front sight is on yours, which accepts a few different options.
I aced the LMG test we have using the M60E6, I really enjoyed using the weapon, but after 3½ years I moved on to something else (bitch gets heavy, my knees don't stay young).
Most common issue I experienced was failure to extract, the extractor would get worn out a bit faster than I liked.
There were also cases of failure to feed, where round wasn't being pushed hard enough down, so the bolt went under the round, without pulling it through the link. This could be fixed with a few common parts, but it did require a partial dismantling of the lid.
Gas system worked great though, rarely had any issues related to gas pressure.
Interesting that they raised the picatinny. I would think it should be mounted as low as practical, leaving height accommodation to the accessory mount, thus not eliminating the option of mounting taller accessories.
@@ItsMrAssholeToYou It's only raised like 2 cm, it's not much, I assume it's to reduce heat transfer, but that's just speculation.
Ow man I can't have enough of the incredible intros/editing and the excellent sound quality and attention to detail put by the team, congratulations! As an audiophile I can't stress enough how much I appreciate your time and effort! 😁
I have a very good friend who did the E6 upgrade on his RIA transferable M60 that he has had since the 90's. He has regrets doing it despite it making it a much much BETTER weapon. He assumed in an very oblivious way that that the final look will still be like the M60. I think it looks much sexier than the Rambo style M60 look. Then again, he was a post Vietnam National Guardsman and he spent plenty of time on the M60 during his weekend warrior days. Great video and I think in due time, he will like the E6 once he sleeps with it some more.
Love the E6. I did a video on it years ago but that cyclic rate is 👌🏽
I never got to shoot a Mk43 in the Navy, but I absolutely loved the Mk48 when I got to run it, these belt feds are tremendous
Nice upgrade.
When I qualified with the Pig at Camp Bullis it was a Pig. It did give me a whole new perspective on the 7.62x51 hitting those distant hard targets at 800 yards and hearing those rounds smacking.
I started a fire with a tracer and my instructor told me to put out the fire. It was confusing until he told me to shoot at it and I extinguished the fire.
Fighting fire with fire 🤷♂️🤣
@@joshuahagen2961 I basically tore apart the brush that was on fire and covered it with dirt. 😁
...on another fine day I beat myself in my nose with my left hand that was on top of the cover assembly and gave myself a nosebleed.
Those Army instructors had a field day with me. 🤓
@@boygirlandadad5814 I can only imagine 🤣
If Micah wasn’t wearing MCB he would’ve lived
Weird that he wasnt
@@davidmecham9676the camo
@@davidmecham9676Specifically, it's an acronym for Multi-Cam Black, a pattern that a lot of people despise due to its in effectiveness in actual combat
damn you sho right, on my little phone it looked like mcb. im a goof@@bro26mohw
Fun fact about the m60e6. You can assemble the firering pin the wrong way round, and it still has enough oomph to let off a few rounds. We were in disbelief as where our instructors.
Keep the good vids coming flannel daddy. Denmark supports good content 🤙
Ive been a gunner using the M60, M240, and the M249. The M60 was always my favorite, being halfway between the M249 and M240 in weight, full powered round, low rate of fire, and short length of pull.
You have bad taste then
@@daviddavidson9923
No, I have experience.. The M60 was so controllable that gunners often returned half of their ammo after qualification because it was easy to hit targets with 2-3 round bursts. Especially on tripod.
But sure, on video games I guess the difference isn't discernable
@theimmortal4718
Did you get to use a pkm? Garand thumb says he likes that more
@theimmortal4718 the new Mk 48 is about the size/weight of this M60E6. Essentially an upsized M249 SAW firing 7.62mm NATO.
@@daviddavidson9923 Get served son haha
I ran an Echo 3. Most of our guns were worn out and ran like trash. Biggest problem was the feed tray cover flexing. On the rare occasion we got our hands on a new gun it ran fine.
Any good design can be ruined by greedy leadership not willing to spend funds on replacements
Same here ran a E3 in the Marines had problems with the trigger housing groups malfunctioning(we ran the shit out of them) and the carrying handle vibrating off. Now the time when we did ops off of Beirut we went to H&S battalion on ship and used their 60s they were brand new hardly fired it was like we got a brand new toy 😁👍🏾👍🏾
@@tsorevitch2409as a former Marine 2111 / armorer a large portion of the problems were a combination of design of the E3, and poorly skilled armorers who didn’t identify defects.
THE WORST machine gun range training I ever ran was because we used M60E3’s that we temp loaned from 2d Maint Bn at Camp Lejeune. This is not just a maintenance unit. The Small Arms Repair Section is part of Ordnance Maint Company. Which is part of Maintenance Bn. And the owning unit doesn’t use their M60’s very much. Not like those in an infantry battalion. And those guns were complete pieces of shit. One gun had the op rod snap into two pieces before the end of the first 100 round belt.
The M240 was a heavy bitch. But you could count on it to work. And the PKM is far better than the M60E3. The E6 looks good. And it appears they may have overcome so of its short. So good on US Ord!
The Pig will over time, gall its own cams and eventually, the weapon WILL be unserviceable.
@@stevewilson7819 I'm not an expert but according to what I read and heard service life of M60 was initially sacrificed in favor of other specs as it was designed with WW3 in mind and in actual large scale war weapon life is rather short. It's the same for M16 mags that initially were planed to be a single use and discardable after use.
Love that you mentioned M60's nickname PIG. Many veterans in Vietnam (especially those once serving South Vietnam) called M60 "con heo" or "con lợn", both which are pig in Vietnamese. Mostly due to how heavy they were compared to RPDs.
One thing to note when talking about the high fire rate of the SAW is that its 5.56 so the ammo is significantly lighter and you can carry more to offset the fire rate
true true - the kac lamg also has a much slower fire rate with 556 and it is welcome.
Apparently someone never had the best job in the world as a WSL. You manipulate your rates of fire. Carrying more because something shoots faster is a path to heartache. You only think that's a logical statement because whatever experience you think you have isn't grounded in reality.
you need more too..
touche'
Don't be extra wasteful with ammo simply because you have more of it than usual. Bad discipline.
Use the same amount of rounds you'd normally use
@@thepastafarian7167 you gotta work on your writing because saying carrying more ammo to offset high rpm means you are suggesting wasteful ammo dumping.
LOVE the sound of a well lubed "PIG". I worked on the M60 many moons ago. It's still my favorite belt fed.
I have fond memories of the M60… Many times, I carried a 50 pound ruck, a M60, and or a AN/PRC-77 over 30 miles… It’s a amazing weapon but it weighs a ton… The “pig”… One of my favorite mass casualty producing weapons…
You’re right! We are stray cats! Sincerely M249, M240B, M2 Operator extraordinaire! We are lost in “Space and Timing” 😂
I’ve been watching your videos for 5-6 years now, and I love your content bro! But I’m missing your “becoming deadly in the woods” videos. It would be awesome if you did some more survival/recce content. Your MAC vids are cool too.
Thanks for all you do for the 2A community!
This
Apparently a bunch of people on Reddit or something threw a hissy fit when he was making those survival videos so he quit making them.
something tells me he doesnt give a shit about reddit...@@Centermass762
@@Centermass762incels should not get a vote.
@@Centermass762why lol.
Man the *M60* is such a classic gun... I grew up watching all the great war movies, the real good ones, since I was born in 1994 and all the good ones came out around that time. Seeing *Mother* with his *M60* in *Full Metal Jacket* made me fall in love with the gun... and of course the *Classic* movie *Predator* with *Big Bad Arnold Swartchaneger* .... I've never had the pleasure to actually hold or see a *M60* in person but I really hope that can change. I've been in quite a few gun shops but I've never had the luck of seeing one in them. There was a sporting goods store that had a gun range on the *Eastern Shore* of *Maryland* called *Daves* and they had a *.50 Caliber Barret* sniper rifle that they charged *$10* per bullet to shoot, that's the only crazy gun I have shot before.
We still had m60s in the navy when I served and I loved them and preferred them over the m240. We had the e3 and e4 variants.
Always enjoy the throwbacks to the good old days of a badass intro followed by the black background tip to butt breakdown. We all love Charlie’s antics, but this is peak Garand Thumb.
we do not all love charlies antics
Thank you for your time. i had the operatunity one time to shoot off a machine gun. It was a 1912 Browning 30cal. Expensive to rent, but i would recommend anyone with the means to put it on their bucket list to shoot any machine gun or at least go to a machine gun shoot show. Its a blast. Hold Fast My Friends.
I love the old style video! Still missing the old questions
“if you’ve ever blew a hole in your wall while dry firing, and nailed your neighbor’s dog and hid it from them, go ahead and hit that subscribe”
Same. It's like a PBS documentary. Except not boring. I hope we get a mix of fun larping and the Zen black screen review
THANK YOU! - Perhaps the best description of the M60 family and of course, another super well done video. I am glad to see that after 66 years, someone finally got the M60 LMG/GPMG right, albeit in this SOF & Danish variant. I was a Machinegunner in the Infantry and you are right about everything that you said. (it never was reliable and had so many built in flaws).
Once you get the kinks worked out of a good system and it becomes reliable it becomes a real asset. The M16 was junk when it first came out. Now look at it. There isn't a better all around system.
M60 has always had a special place in my heart. Outdated, heavy, clumsy sure. But something about that lower rate of fire just methodically chugging along getting work done. Plus it's full power rifle cartridges, who doesn't like that?
I love the older school review on this one. It brings back a lot of fond memories of you doing the "tip to butt" reviews.
And the insane comment section! Good times
Please make a action movie already this editing goes hard
A short film would be epic
john wick?
I used to work for US Ordinance in Quality Control. Never got to shoot the M-60 E6, but I did shoot the 50 BMG - Pure firepower!! Great content. Love it!!
When I went through ITB for 0331 in the Marine Corps ya for the cadence we used "Die Motherfucker Die" for the rapid rate of fire or "Die Motherfucker" for sustained rate.... there was another one that our combat instructor used for the rapid rate which was.... "Dead girls don't say no!"😝🤣 probably the slightly longer thing he couldnt say 😁
Been scrolling the comments trying to find what the more vulgar cadence would be. Thanks.
The firing cadence my drill sergeant taught us was "I love sex" to try to keep the bursts to 5 to 7. It's interesting to hear that same concept applies throughout the force.
I was the SAW gunner for my squad in Iraq, and ran the heavy guns (M2, mk19) for our convoys. I wish this was one I got to play with. Only ever shot an m60 in basic.
We had the 43 for a long time, I loved that thing. But I will confess I was pretty stoked to get the 48 later on.
The M-60 was definitely one of my favorite weapons to fire when I was in. My favorite thing about it? How that AWESOMELY BRILLIANT muzzle blast would render the NVGs used by opfors completely useless! 🎇
How?
@@RUclipsuser1aa Bright light shuts down NVGs, and muzzel blasts, especially from a MG are worse
My Cousin loves the M60e6 every time before a operation in Colombia he would always volunteer to use the 60 and the stories he told about this gun made me wanting get one and to put it on my bucket
That fire rate is perfect. Just enough to suppress, not enough to burn up all the ammo. The short buttstock and grip moved forward is awesome for balance and handling. The bolt lockup flaw never got improved, though. Lots of peening.
If i was static, or in a turret, id pick a 240b. If im on my feet, m60 all day long. I'm a strong believer in changing positions often. The mg always draws the mortars. I want something that can fire prone, kneeling, off of a rock, standing, or from the shoulder. I may need to change position, bound backwards, forwards, peel, etc. The 240 is simply too long and heavy to do all that RAPIDLY.
If I'm not mistaken, the 10th Mountain was one of the last Infantry units to give up the M60 in exchange for the M240, and some of them may have been used in the initial months of Afghanistan right after 9/11. The prior 10thMTN guys I spoke with (who were squad leaders in my first duty station) liked its portability but didn't like it's reliability. It jammed a lot, which is partly the design but I think has even more to do with the fact that the M60s being used circa 1999-2002 were nearly 50 years old and had been beaten to sh*t.🤷♂️
the latter more than the former is the reason. ive seen some drug cartel m60s left over from the 1980s that were in better shape than some of the army m60s ive seen
Ive heard the same thing.
Was downrange twice in Afghan, where I humped the 240.. honestly the 240b is my preferred weapon system, that thing can put it down and take it all the same. Ive never had the pleasure to get behind an M60 or any variants, but I've heard talk from a couple 10MTN guys we bumped into that they were indeed used up until at least 2003, unofficially. Ran em till they died and the Army wouldn't fix 'em since they were transitioning to the 240.
@sticksonrecord3257 yeah we did that with nearly everything. I was 25th ID, and we had a handful of M16A2s, half a dozen StarLight night vision scopes left over from Vietnam, an M14 (not Mk14, a straight up wood stock M14), and a pallet of M72 LAWs, all "just in case," and this was in 2005. Units hoard stuff like privates buy tacticool crap, they just can't help it.
@ripvanwinkle2002 I got to be in the Army at a pretty unique time; we had just gotten rid of the M60 and our 240s were less than 5 years out of the factory; I was the 2nd person ever issued my M4/M203. When I moved up to team lead and got issued a different M4, I took that sucker out of the plastic.
Contrast that with guys who joined a decade before I did and were using M16s that were 20 years old. My unit's M60s were Vietnam Vets, and that's saying sonething- 25th ID spent a decade in a rice paddy south of Saigon, those pigs were used hard and put away wet.
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Better to have and not need than need and not have right? I know some guys that got screwed out of gear that's they were supposed to have had in stores and a pallet of laws could have been pretty handy.
As a Danish army mg operator I have to say this. It is an amazing machine gun…. But after 60k rounds it has to go back to the gun smith and get all new parts. The old mg3 we used could go 100-120k rounds without any problems
And about the barrel change. Are standard is every 200-300 rounds we do a barrel change.
As a weapons technician in the Royal Danish Navy, we still use the MG3 (M/62) and will most likely continue to use it for many, MANY more decades. The thing simply won't die even in arctic conditions.
most barrels can easily do 800 rounds on most weapons even down to minimis but its preferable to change them, militaries will purposely lower how many rounds they say to put through barrels so newer soldiers dont melt them, also there is no need to push weapons to their limits in peace time
@@AGMI9 Yes very true, but most European military's train as if it was wartime. We usually shot around 2500-5000 rounds on a gun range weekend. Peace time says 200-300 rounds before barrel change and wartime 600-800 rounds before barrel change
Good to see you still doing this style of video. Kinda nostalgic
Great video. My dad was a 60 gunner in Vietnam in the 101st mid 60’s. Thank you!
Love the throw back styles Mike! Keep up the great content!
I'm glad to see the return of the black room. Don't get me wrong, range time with Micah is fun, but black room with flannel daddy just has that professionally intimate feeling that the channel was built on.
This^
"Shoulder thing that goes up." Thanks for the laughs while sharing knowledge. Love the channel!
I'm impressed by the complete AOR1/NWU Type 2 kit. Nice attention to detail! I can't get over the fact that the M60 is still in service in some way, either.
definitely not enough attention brought to that sweet NWU Type II, the unobtainium uniform for like 95% of Sailors
AFO Neptune is pleased.
RIP Rabbit.
When i was playing pro football with the NY Jets, as a 300lb offensive lineman in the late 80s, my father, a command master chief, was an observer for a RED CELL ( SEAL TEAM 6) exercise, and after the exercise, they had a shindig at the chiefs club, and he called me, and said that some of the SEALS found out that his kid was a pro football player, and wanted to meet me. I was at the club in minutes. I met the guys, and one of the biggest SEALS on the teams and i instantly hit it off like brothers. They were stationed at Indian Maryland at the time, a couple hours drive from NY. I was a certified weapons instructor at the time, and thought i was pretty good shot. This was at the time when they were on the cutting edge developing CQB tactics. Man! Was I INSTANTLY humbled! They were very cool about it, and started training me in their techniques. I would go home, and practice what they taught, dry firing, and mag changes, sight picture, trigger control, etc. As a professional athlete, I'm a very visual learner. Show me something once, and I'm usually on it. When we got to the M60E3, that they were carrying at the time, it was cut down to about 12 lbs. I absolutely fell in love with it! We would do range drills, and one time, after chewing up the range targets with it, one of the SEALS said, "Dude! You could be our gunner!" I took that as a huge compliment, coming from one of them. Those guys couldn't say enough good things about the gun. Their not a big fan of the 5.56 round, and i asked why. "Do you want to wait for the enemy to stick his head around the tree, or do you just want to shoot through the tree?" Made perfect sense to me, so it made it real easy to buy the M14, instead of an AR15.
I'll never forget that amazingly awesome feeling of shooting a 12lb., belt fed machine gun!
I've had the opportunity to shoot alot of machine guns, but that 60E3, was by far my most favorite to shoot. Cutting the weight of it in half, I'm surprised the Marines didn't adopt it. Today, I would much rather carry the E6 version, than the 240 they use now. Awesome weapon!
Love your B roll footage! Awesome as always.
Side note: The Stellite liner is original to the legacy M60’s. Even the Vietnam era guns. Just look for the gap in front of the chamber when you look down the bore. That’s a tell tale sign of the liner. Probably also why the guns shoot 12 minutes of angle!
The modern musket. Honestly a shame that I’m legally allowed to own a flame thrower but will likely never touch one of these belt-feds in my lifetime
Head over to Nevada. There’s some exotic gun ranges that have the 3rd pew toggle switch
Fightlite mcr and if ur feeling spicy a FRT 15
You've got a better chance nowadays than you've had in the 90 years since the NFA was passed. We're slowly chipping away at the injustices made over the last 90 years. Just gotta keep working at it.
Not with that attitude.
There are quite a bit of ranges that lets you rent weapons
I was 13 or so, in the Boy Scouts. One of my Scout Masters was a Major in the Marines (reserves, I'm guessing), and he was able to bring the entire Troop onto the local base. We got to fire a 60mm mortar, jump onto a foxhole and fire several bursts the M60. I'm guessing that played a huge part in me later joining the Marine infantry. That M60 made me hard at 13, just saying.
The original M60s actually didn't have handles on the barrel at all; for changing a hot barrel, a gun crew was issued an asbestos mitten to grab the hot barrel directly. One could easily imagine how easy it is to lose that, and that's where the barrel-mounted grab handles came in.
Sounds like the M1919
Yeah imagine that in the middle of battle. Halfway thrpigh the barrel change the dudes head geys blown off and now youre next and you gotta finish putting the barrel on. Brains all over
The M60 has always been a Grail Gun for me, they're just such a vibe.
Fun Fact: open vs closed bolt system.
In german it's the other way around:
- open bolt == zuschiessend (closed shooting)
- closed bolt == aufschiessend (open shooting)
The reason seems to be something around "for shooting the bolt has to close" == zuschiessend and "for shooting the bolt will open after" == aufschiessend.
So German seem to look at the process of shooting, while English seems to focus on the static (non-shooting) situation.
First off, appreciate the return to the old format. I might be in the minority, but I enjoy this format more than the less structured format as of late. My question is are the SEALs not big fans of the new SIG weapons or is there another reason they haven't transitioned to those?
ran a 240b and got to train on a m60 - both are monsters - the 308 round is a masterpiece
Yo! As someone who works for USO. I'm happy to see a video on the M60 and I definitely know who you are! Your videos are awesome. Hearing all these facts about the M60 come into light is great.
Hated it when I was assigned the M60, but my Plt Sgt said it's a crew served weapon and it will be a crew cleaned one also. I grew to love that weapon. Laughed really hard when you started talking about Die MF Die as that's how I was taught. Great video.
Garand thumb is one of the few channels that doesnt have the flaw of growing old.
Fr imo especially this more info based classic Garand thumb style of video
The educational content just gets better imo. These videos have come a long way. Amazing weapon variety not covered by other channels too. Definitely original content.
Such a GOAT. “Weapon system, I know everyone hates that word”. I love it dude!!! I know you’re not going to see this but Eff it.
AWESOME VIDEO👍....The -60E barrel is lined with Stellite alloys are a range of cobalt-based alloys, with significant proportions of chromium (up to 33%) and tungsten (up to 18%). Some of the alloys also contain nickel or molybdenum. Most of them are fairly high carbon content when compared to carbon steels, though they contain less than 3% iron, and in the stellite alloys the carbon is primarily associated with the chromium to form hard chromium carbide particles which are dispersed in the cobalt-based matrix.
I would have like to have seen the Op Rod and Bolt. Their interface was a wear point that caused me many hours of work with stones as an Armorer in a Cavalry Troop in the '80's! I never saw any real problems with reliability, but Op Rod saw what I thought was a tremendous amount of wear that I always felt needed smoothing up! I hope that the hardening on the Op Rod did improve that wear point! I loved the M60 and M240 both!
The 60 in the vid is mine. I link a blank into the belt so it never closes on an empty chamber and helots to prevent some of the bolt lug issues you dealt with.
Mr. Thumb, much appreciated as always. Maybe not everyone is aware of the service you and your guys do for us, or how important this knowledge is.
I was on the M60E3 and the MK43 (fancy variant) many years ago. It will always be missed.
Same here carried the E3 in the Marines to this day been out 33 years and still miss my Pig 😁😁👍🏾👍🏾
I would be curious to see the differences of armor penetration between 30Hate rounds like the M80A1 or Black tips/M993 and 556 rounds like M995 or M855A1. It would be interesting to see what happens to a realistic ballistic dummy after those rounds go through armor.
I think this been done before on a few other channels
Beggars can't be choosers. Although, if only a medium existed on the internet where you could just type in something you wanted to see for free and hundreds of videos of that and similar things just popped up for your viewing pleasure... Well then I suppose you could satisfy that curiosity.
@@mattmarzula Wow! Really??? No Way! tHanKYoU fOR yOuR inSiGhTfUL cOmMenT!
@@mattmarzulawhat kind of space wizard bullshit is this? Explain now, or be burned at the stake for this heresy!
@@SwimmerDude50i read this in angry paul harrell voice
I was an armorer for the M60 and loved the weapon
Woah, someone actually turned the M60 into a good gun. Even M. Night Shyamalan would be impressed by that twist.
The m60 got a bad rep, its a good MG.
The M60 was always a good gun. Just by the time of the 80s and 90s, they'd been put through hell and back. Heavy use in Vietnam, improper operation, and sheer age.
The M60 was and still is a "good gun".
Those who shit on them never was supported by one.
I was in Weapons Squad in the Line when we had the M60, as well as a 240 gunner and Weapons Squad Leader later on.
We always had problems with the M60, in that they just didn't run. M240 ran and ran like a raped ape, and always did throughout its service predating the M60 as the MAG58.
USORD did quite a few updates to get them 👌
The M60 was always an underrated machine gun and while I think the M240 is a better overall 7.62 NATO gun, a lighter weight M60 with modern attachments is still going to be incredibly useful for suppressive fire. Also, if you ever hear a machine gunner start to talk about their weapon as a weapons system, then you might want to recommend them for Army Sniper School. 😄 One shot, one kill, ammirite? 🙂
Up until that last part, yeah.
@@mattmarzula That's the best part though. 😄 Also why attending certain US military schools is only ever done on recommendation. As an Officer, you wouldn't want to recommend someone to attend such a school to learn such skills unless you knew they had the ability and also have the... "moral fortitude" to understand why you don't bring those skills back home to use against civilians. It's kind of an old movie by now, but the 2007 movie with Mark Wahlberg titled, "Shooter" is kind of a what-if a sniper who is comfortable with being a shooter just didn't care, it's not deep, just entertainment.
Lol. It ain't better than a 240B. The M60 had a ejector/extractor issues. Granted the E6 solves that but the E6 is not in US inventory, like at all. Lol
@@DZ4295DBW I'm aware of why the standard M240 is a better machine gun than the original M60s. It sounds like the M60E6 solves the problem with lugging it around and repositioning and firing reliably, that the M240 never has had a problem with. Regardless, if I ever heard one of my machine gunners talk about their gun as a weapons system, whether I'd like it or not, I'd probably recommend that said person for US Army Sniper School, because that's probably where they belong rather than lugging around a machinegun all day. 😄
The PKM ejects casings into your parka so they keep you warm and toasty in the frozen Russian tundra.
The brass burns also remind you that you're not suffering from frostbite yet. It's ergonomic design, the Russian way 🙂👍🏻
The M60 is peak aesthetic.
an episode on the MG-3 and how it compares with the MG-42 would be interesting! such a fascinating machine gun. i wonder if it serves a different doctrine of MG usage with how different the design philosophy is compared to other western MGs
The MG3 fires a different bullet and has a slightly lower RPM and that's about it
I've read stories about German armourers and soldiers finding swastikas and other 3rd Reich markings in some of the internal components of some of their MG3s upon disassembly.