Gillie Da Kid Says Older Rappers Are LOSERS?
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That’s HIS opinion. What he thinks is not law. Creativity has no limits.
Facts
Facts 💯💯
Washed up podcasters
FACTS!!!!
True but he has major influence over people minds
35 and still grinding. I might not be Nas but imma be successful with my music.
You are you. You gonna be you and that come up will be legendary. Blessings.
Go get em cuz
Hang up the gloves
@@Eastsidegoon thx for the motivation
Keep grinding broski. There is no worse feeling than giving up.
2 Chainz blew up at age 35, Danny Brown at age 30. Just because you’re older doesn’t mean your time to shine is over, it’s just yet to happen
But he was also popular before that as tiddy boi
I’ve never heard any other genre of music talking about a age gap before. Do what you love to do. Don’t ask for permission from another man.
SMH I said this to someone recently. This is a fairly young genre, the vets aren't even that old in comparison.
Because Rap is a younger genre than Jazz rock etc. We have not seen a grey Rapper yet so its seen as a young man sport😂
@@siyagee1000 Black Thought, Snoop, Nas, Jay-Z, El-P all have 30+ years in the game and can still outrap most of these kids. So, there are several examples of grey-haired rappers.
@@donnellm346 They got some salt n pepper grey hair, but not no real grey haired 70-80 year old fools
@@siyagee1000 damnn
I'm 49 and I still rap with my 26 year old son and I feel you curt, this is a passion for the artform and fun spending time with my sons
Me to I’m 50 and still write rap and write songs and make beats ..I rap and record with my son who is 21…. It’s art and creativity…I’m not tryna become artist I do it for the ART as a outlet…
Respect.
Respect to all of ya
DO YOUR IISH!
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Started rapping in 7th grade. Always loved it but didn't see or believe how I could make it a career. Went to college got a job. Not perusing music was my biggest regret. Decided to get back to it at 31. The regret ate me up more than anything else. I couldn't live with the what if. I'll be doing this till I can't. If you have doubts keep pushing! The hell with regret!
Same here, but started in 11th grade.
🫡🛠️ my dawg
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That was my issue too
dude, your story sounds so similar to mine. keep going man. you are an inspiration 🙏
Mad how hiphop is the only genre where you "can't" rap after 30😅😅
Facts
So true, in the Jamaican dancehall and reggae culture they don’t give a crap about your age as long you are good they want to here from you, you can make it at any age in that genre.
@@fuoks4880 exactly if anything it's celebrated
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It's someone out there cashing some sync licensing checks and laughing all the way to the bank. 🤣
I started rapping in the 8th grade in 2000. Started producing in college at 20 back in 2007. I’m STILL creating music and I’ll never stop until I’m off the Earth. No man is gonna tell me how to use my God given gift and what age I should pursue it. Gillie got lucky with the podcast path or he’d be another artist from 2001 that never popped off. Dawg gotta chill on the elitist “gatekeeping”.
Yo your take on that perfect, I'm over 50 and been producing since I was 17, I love it, Hip hop is in my soul, why should I have to stop creating, even if it's just for myself... I have to do it... great job on getting that point across..💯
🫡🙏🏽 salute family!
Was thinking about it this morning. Hip-hop is the only genre of music that discriminates on age. All other genres celebrate their artists, no matter how old they are...
Hit-boy doing an album with his pops that just got out of prison. we are at a time in music where age is a thing of the past. It's how you package your brand and like you said if it makes people feel something they're going to gravitate towards it. We hear this type of talk in hip hop all the time Age this age that.
Man, one of the dopest things to see this year in Hip Hop
That's what I said to myself. If I wasn't established by 30 I'd pursue something else. My mother got Alzheimer's around that time and I became a caregiver for about 7 years before she passed. I regret placing that limitation on myself and realize it was not real. After my mom passed I had matured way more and had more wisdom and real topics to get off my chest. Hip hop is a grown up 50 year genre now and is not just for kids anymore. You just have to adjust your message for the adults in the culture. If established artists are still performing at 45/50 years old there's no age limit.
Yea I never understood the age limit. I can agree certain topics you will outgrow as you get older. But just make music for the people in your age bracket
You can make music at any time you want. There's nothing wrong with being inspired at any age
People who say you too old to rap don't know what rap is. It's talking, conversation, poetry and self expression. When you get too old for that... you've must've died.
This is why you can’t let others project their reality on you. For HIM, he may be too old to rap. When your maturity level is still stuck in your 20s then yea he right, don’t want to see a 40 yr old trying to be 20. But if he was talking about some grown man ish then imo the culture needs that. We need more MEN and WOMEN leading the way, not kids. But we been conditioned, and it’s so toxic. And imo he embodies that toxicity and mindset that holds us as a people back!! I said what I said!
Hip Hop and rap seems like the genre in where age is a problem or being to old and yet Rock and roll pop etc there is never no complaints
Exactly and it's time to remove clowns from this hip hop culture who think like that
I started rapping around 1979. I been a street hustler and had jobs like Janitor, Aircraft Structural Mechanic, Computer Tech, etc. Sure I made more money in all of those things that came and went, but I'm still rapping at age 60. Curtiss I wonder what percentage of Gillie's success can be attributed to Wallo, and maybe instead of telling older rappers to hang it up he could recommend they find someone like Wallo to assist in their career. If interested I have music on my channel from the 1980's - 2020 and I'll be dropping a new album soon as well. Best of health, happiness and success to you all. - Imp the Great
Quincy Jones was 50 when Thriller was released. Let that sink in a minute, also remind me how old some of these rock artist again?
Very well said. I fully agree with you, especially in an age where the legends are right around 50 and still killing it.
@Curtis I love this video right here. Individuals need to just be themselves and do what they love. Music and the Arts have no age limit. That’s the beautiful thing about it. Keep killing it with the content brotha!
This is genuinely one of the most important videos iv watched this week. Pretty awesome to see that I'm not the only one with this passion that just won't die even after I tried walking from it, or tried burying it for years coz a 9 to 5 was a safer option.
I'm glad I have the ability to take care of my family financially... But honestly, my 9 to 5 provides structure and stability (something I'm really greatful for)... But music is medicine for my soul.
I'm only 29 so In a way that doesn't sound too bad...I can take care of Family, so now it's time to just do this thing for me.
Thank you King
I'm going to put this out here...BP have a limited view of what, when, where, why, and how success happens. One person's success is another person's failure. The 'rap' demographic of people think between 18 and 25 is it and that's it. You don't see this idea in Pop, Rock, Dance, or other genres of music. Rodney Dangerfield didn't find 'success' until he was in his 50s. Everybody's time is different, experiences different, and that's why not everyone is someone you should listen too. I like their podcast, but their views are limited to their world and what they have experienced. Don't let someone make your destiny, create your own path, and stay committed to what you desire to be.
Maaan….that’s definitely a topic for a whole other video 💯💯
@@CurtissKingTV can't wait to hear you speak on it frfr!
@@CurtissKingTV I live in Philly gillie is mid 40’s he older than wallo . Wallo is 42 .
@@keynotez that makes a lot more sense
@@keynotez I was thinking the same thing… Gillie gotta be older than 39…
Gillie only being 39 is crazier than his opinion on the subject. I fasho thought dawg was 42.😂
aint no limits on creativity!
2 Chainz pretty much debunked Gillie. That shits a process and it takes how long it tale
From someone that stood with Gilliedakid many, many years ago at the Armory, I agree with what you (Curtiss King) said in this. I remember seeing them OG's they have skill... When we travel, there is an A and B, Some don't even get to "A" some don't get to "B" but some do and some Go from A to B..... that travel from A to B and inbetween is all important. Thank you for this video. Those are my Thought on it....
Awesome vid man. I love the part when you said “if music if your passion you can’t just walk away from it” sheeesh
There is no ceiling to what you love to do. We, as a people, are the only ones that place limitations on what you love. Always remember, you have one life to live on this earth...do what the F" you love!
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Ka's discography of albums start in his mid 30's. Its all about style of content. Ka is definitely mostly for older folk but he carved his lane.
Facts 💯
Great points, never stop grinding! 💪🏻💯
My favorite video!!! Going through something like this in my own life…it’s never too late to pursue your passions🙏🏾🙏🏾
He couldn’t be more wrong started producing in my 20s n just turned 30 a year ago started working at my local studio n I still sell beats keep going no matter wat
Haven't watched your channel in like 3 years. Glad I watched this video 📹
thank you. I feel like this is about ' someone who is feeling like a loser, preaching to others, who he feels, are bigger loosers' . Talkin bout this guy Gillie . I just turned 44. Not a rapper, a producer/beatmaker , but thought bout rappin cuz I have things to say sometimes.......
And I have nothing to brag about regarding my music. And if this guy is going to make me quit tryin, then I would be a real loser. Now I'm more motivated to start rappin even....... Lets say at 50 if I feel like it. Keep it up Curtiss @CurtissKingTV
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We only do this in Rap, there are greats in every other Genre that started out later and even in Rap there are some older rappers that started out later most are independent but are still big enough to live off of rap alone. there is no age limit to Music , that's a Mainstream Myth
I feel you and agree with alot you stated in this video💯 Gillie is in Mid 40s…google is wrong. Gillie say it on an episode one time. And Wallo is couple years younger than him. Theyve stated it on their podcast multiple times…. Anyways! If its Passion or Hobby, keep perusing. As long as you said, your responsibilities are taken care of✌🏻
I just look at them like: I’m a whole cybersec specialist. This is a hobby. I don’t rap to eat.
Mannnn I love this reaction. Your thoughts on this are spot on 💯. Who’s anyone to set a age limit.
I will say though, Gille already somewhat had a name when he started his podcast so it’s a lil different but I definitely agree, some could say he was older starting a podcast.
I've been rapping since I was 12. I'll be 37 this year and I'm better than I've been . I can keep up for sure and I'll be doing this until I can't no more. I'm also a producer , engineer and singer.... Why would I ever stop doing what I'm great at and what i was put here to do?! Fuck what anybody has to say .
It’s only our culture / ppl that does this. I don’t see rock artist or pop artist put an age limit on being in their field..
Pete and Bas are the best examples of the rant!
Some thoughs:
- Using a platform to boost you up and only then get listeners can be good or bad, the bad side is having influencers being rappers and also creates a dependency on the original platform.
- Too old is a case by case thing, some people do pop off 'old' and others aren't really poping because they simply lack a any of the fundamentals things necessary for success, (talent, marketing, connection with people, relatability, charisma, or whatever else) in this last scenario it's possibly that focusing on something else could be better for that person but it's always messed up to say "Hey man, give up on your dream" even if often, that's the reality.
I'm not a Rapper but a musician, and I agree with you, KING. If you have a passion for music, there's a really good chance you'll never stop until the fire burns out. Gillie is right on a certain level but wrong at the same time. He must allow people to be who they are, minus the negativity. The people will determine what they deem worthy or not.
"Hip Hop is a young man's game"
Eminem: "Hold my breath".
This is a dope message
Gillie talking bout folks who do shit but ain't got their heart in it
Art has no age your voice is timeless. Create the life you desire!
thank you curtis, that's all that needs to be said !
You can do music as long as the love for it last......there is no age limit....
It just sounds like he has his own issues he has to heal/sort through to be honest. It would be RIDICULOUS and illogical not to utilize this large new platform he has on account of his age. Silly.
Foreal tho! 💯💯
Exactly a number (age) doesn’t take away from the fact your dope on the mic 💯 just cuz I stop riding bikes doesn’t mean I don’t still know how to ride one.. and there’s way more music opportunities now then we had back then so i take advantage of this time.
I had this conversation with a friend of mine the other day. And the conversation it was said "i cant be doing this rapping when I'm 50". I thought that was totally insane, because think about it, you spend your whole life to get to a point where you're doing what you love for a living, you don't want to do it for the rest of your life? WILD. If you don't feel comfortable rapping about the things you're rapping about when you're 50 as you are when you're 30 you should probably reconsider the music you're making. Because people grow out of music and they grow up, I would rather make music my listeners grow into than grow out of. The songs that I I've shared with the public I would be perfectly happy performing them 30 years from now
I think the biggest thing is if you get any kind of joy out of it. I’m 30 going on 31 in a few days, and have been rapping for a decade. In some ways I’ve grown immensely, in other ways not, but the experiences and ideas I’ve gotten from it have been priceless.
Love ur videos brother🔥🔥
I wish that the overseas success that can happen with American rappers was more visible than what has been shown. There’s a lot of opportunities in hip hop overseas.
@CurtissKingTV Ridiculous. I’ve never heard this conversation thrown around in any other genre besides hip-hop. I live in Nashville, TN, and every year there is a new country artist that is blowing up and they’re all above 30-50. It’s sad that my people love to clip wings before you can fly. Shameful man. If you’re over 40, keep pushing. 8 billion people on this planet and millions of them feel just like you do. P&L
Facts.
Agreed. Well said King
You’re completely right. Keep these videos coming. They’re helping. Keep your passion going. Keep that fire burning
I agree with this take Curtiss. Anything is possible.
Tobe is in his mid 30's right now, and is someone who blew up in his 30's and actually started rapping later in life. Not sure what exact age he started of course, but I know it was mid 20's.
Thanks man
Thee ONLY music genre where we put an expiration date on creativity.
Well said.
I think society puts to much emphasis on age for certain things. I feel any hobby or passion you enjoy as long as your not infringing on other people’s rights can and should be enjoyed regardless of age! Life is too short not too!! 💯💪🏾
Success is about having skills and applying them.
1. Never listen to others that have not done it before!
2: Have a 100 year vision, plan & develop it. It doesn't matter if you do not live to see it happen in the end! It should be bigger than YOU and inspiring from ones soul to other souls.
3. Writing, publishing, audio books, voice overs, commercials, acting, hosting, teaching, performing, merchandising etc.
There are so many unlimited ways to utilize your born and cultivated talents.
Explore all your options.
💯 great info here
some people man 🤣 if i'm 40 and rapping, I won't give a daaammn what some younger cat has to say. it's all about the love for the art and creation. these kids are stuck in their ego and not making sense
Thats the difference between a rapper and a artist..a rapper might feel as if they only have a time limitation..an artist will always have a picture to paint
Gillie projecting his own insecurities Im 42 and still creating dope music
Real talk!!!
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I don't care about Rappers bio, favorite colors or bdays ... All I care about IS THE BARS .. 👨🏾⚖️🤷🏾♂️
This is a weird form of gatekeeping in an era when doing things for yourself (producing, recording, mixing, mastering, release, marketing) has never been more accessible.
If you're doing everything you need to do in life, who cares how old you are?
If it wasn't for me being introduced to making music by way of rapping I would have never found my way into music production. I feel that anyone who wants to "rap" should be reasonable with what they decide to rap about. Like you said it would have been delusional of me to have my daughter in the middle of me grinding to learn how to produce and continue to pursue becoming a better music producer by ignoring my responsibilities as a single father. Do I look at myself becoming a rapper, NO. Do I look at myself becoming a multi-platinum producer maybe? I'm I gonna be constantly in the studios late nights trying to be in the clubs with people here and there? Hell No. I have to find another way to brand myself and spin my ability to create a potential "business" with music for myself another way and as of now, thanks to social media and RUclips I can still do that.
Do what you want, For as long as you want…💯💯💯 Just don't ask for anybody to do it for you… Sick of hearing you have to do this, You have to do that
Since most people can make the music from home and not need the industry to support them there is no age limit. An independent artist can make living in Hip Hop just as long as they don't expect to be played on radio or get any mainstream recognition.
These rappers turned podcasters are showing their true colors. They never had the passion. If the passion is in you, you will always have it in you.
Griselda enters chat
"even when the hairline balding, I'll be rhyme forming I'm all in..." - SmokeIzFire
my thoughts are this is excellent and beyond
Yeah that's def cap man... it's def his opinion manand def not gospel but to me it's reckless man. It's almost an old dated mindset when it comes to it bro.. I have several friends in their late 30's and even 40's doing this still. One guy i know personally and have done production for has over 20+ albums, works independently and has albums he's done for sync ONLY which pays bro.. I ain't all about being a superstar doing this but about doing what you love and still being able to eat from it. Like i've told my son (who is in his early 20's), everybody ain't gonna be a superstar because like in basketball, their enough spots on the team for that. You have to figure out what roll you want to play on a team.. what is succss four YOU and what that looks like for YOU because for each level of success, there is a certain level of work, dedication and sacrafice to get to whatever level you think success looks like for YOU. Alot of the opportunities that artist have today didn't exist when Gillie was coming up in the game so in order to do ANYTHING for real, you had to "blow up" but it's not the same these days so the mindset of success and levels thereof change. Just my 2cents bro. Good stuff as always sir.
I Agree becouse now is the only time I would probly be interested in hearing some of his music becouse I never really knew who he was until now 💯🤷🏽♂️
Rap is wrap so what is the present inside the box. It's a huge genre. You don't necessarily need to sale records or do shows. Rap and hip-hop is like bread it goes great with a lot of things. You feel me.
I am 42 I LOVE to RAP because I’m naturally a poet so what I did was to become an Author and I have seven bestselling books and they’re poetry. I also created a podcast on one of the books and I feel fulfilled and I am still gonna release new music. #nevertooold 🙏🏾🚀🚀🚀🚀🚀
Also, because we have the ability to put our on music out I feel that anybody has the ability to be a part of whatever music entity they want. Pete and Bas have set the example in my opinion for setting the tone. It is what it is.
Gillie was a beast! Now he got the 💼 he comfy just goes to show it never was his passion….🤷🏿
When they say they tryna get to a new level all that means is they trying to buy more shit! Like dam how much more shit u wanna buy !!??? It’s never gonna make u happy..Material things never can!!🤷🏿
Dope!,....I had a lil issue wit Gillie lil bit too!,..Im in the Great age of 50!,...dnt listen to all the New stuff,..but this Griselda Stuff pretty interesting & they not stopping!
I believe for the most part if you're a rapper that's chasing the "young & reckless" demographic who's mostly concerned with partying and having fun it is possible to win in that realm like 2 Chainz did but it will be a big fight and may look a little off due to you trying to keep up with a younger mindset as trends & the world changes. That demographic is best suitable for younger rappers but if you're an older rapper that's rapping with substance or real lyrical ability more like a Ransom, Griselda, RJ Payne ETC people won't give a fuck if you was 100 years old because in that world of Hip Hop is where age has never and will never matter. That's where "Skills Over Politics" lives forever. The most a hater can say at that point is "yeah that nigga damn near old as planet earth itself but he can outrap damn near everybody on planet earth too"
#freegems
Gillie Da Kid is just mad he never got off like he wished he did
SIA who is A BIG Artist now only started popping after Titanium with David Guetta came out. She was 36 at the time!
Imagine believing that Gillie Da Kid is 39. Look at Saint jhn and look at gillie da kid. Supposedly only 2 years apart, Gillie like most artists in the industry is lying about his age.
HipHop is 50 years old. It's old enough to have older fans. So it's definitely old enough to have older artist. Older rappers are the next frontier. We've already had 50 years of parties, bad decisions and the come up. Time for something new.
Talent is talent gotta start off wit something marketable
I have been moving toward producing .engineering. and helping younger and other talent
The grown are supposed to mentor the youth, not idolize them. 🤷🏽♂️
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When you think about it, older rappers are a lot better story tellers because they have more to speak on; they can take the art to a higher level. If you on some "up in the club" type ish and you're in your late 40s, then yeah put the mic down.
That’s a solid point. You would just hope they also see the value in sharing those stories instead of chasing trends 💯
im 51 curtis and Im NEVER DROPPING THIS RAP SHIT im NEVER GONNA LOVE RAP MUSIC
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@@CurtissKingTV never gonna leave rap music ( typo )
They talk down on it cuz they put in all that effort and it didn't peaked like expected
I think this is the problem. Rap music has to grow up, Older artists have a more grown-up game to give. This is why the youngster can't grow either.. Cause the music still young. And capped at a age group