Joe never ceases to amaze me. I've never heard anyone play that much saxophone and still be so musical about it. He had such command of the saxophone and such a heightened sense of musicality. I want to be like Joe when I "grow up".
Joe is a national treasure. Totally agree with your point, Bob, on Joe's performance of the material. And the Dave Holland bass solo is priceless! Thanks so much for posting this!!!!!
Exactly - and unlike a lot of players, Joe Henderson engages with Monk's material in the sympathetic and creative way - He doesn't just blow the changes. Bob
@barisaxomaphone .. I can hear Michael Brecker 'getting' a lot of ideas from Joe Henderson in his playing - but I can't hear anything in Joe Henderson's playing that come from Brecker
everybody needs to go to the itunes store and get "an evening with joe henderson." great version of this tune is on that album. and charlie haden and al foster make it swing like hell.
Although I've been a fan for years, it just stroke me that Joe Henderson is one of the few saxophonists (with Sonny Rollins) who can express joy as well as sorrow (the latter being much more usual than the first) on his horn...
luaptalpac You're so damn right. It makes your heart sank and rise every time you listen to the man. I'm not religious, but thanks heaven for giving us such an angelic melody. I'm going quite now...
can't say i totally agree. They had completely different styles, trying to way different things. Joe couldn't pull off half the stuff Trane does, but vice versa. They're not even comparable. Both of them best at they're OWN playing.
@rodite Hi Well Joe wasn't a post 'Coltrane' player for me .. I hear him as a contemporary, like Rollins - although Joe was younger by about ten years I think. His Bluenote material (including guest albums like The real McCoy) to my ears are very individualistic and I think he already had his own unique voice by this time. I don't take much notice of interviews - any player can claim to be 'influenced', but I suspect that is often more a case of 'wanting to be a member of the club'.
No one who ever heard Cotrane can forget it, it's part of your soul but Joe was a great player to. There is a record with Jimmie Coob where he plays is butt off and Jimmy plays drums like you never hear today!
Best way to hear the difference between Joe and Coltrane? A Love Supreme and Inner Urge where recorded within a few days of each other with the same trio in the same studio. Both dates are burnin'!
@Antonio: molto corretto, ho pensato sempre lo stesso confronto a Henderson. Quell'intimità, non l'ho mai sentita a quel punto da altri, neanche da Stan Getz. Aveva una maniera di esprimersi in susurro... Incredibile ed unico!
@barisaxomaphone Not sure I follow you ... They were both contemporaries from '70's (when the Brecker Brother's began recording,until Joe's death in 2001), so Joe Henderson had 30 years to 'be influenced' by Mike Brecker - had he heard any ideas that he wanted to be 'influenced by' ... - In my opinion Joe Henderson was a great original creative stylist (which for me is what Jazz is about); and Brecker was an truly excellent saxophone player (whatever that is ultimately supposed to mean).
don't know, Trane is beyond any comparison, but if I try I must say I've never heard so much joy in his sound...beauty, yes, but cheerful, bouncy joy? not sure...
@bobjazz11 Never ceases to amaze me the "comments" I read. Joe is the link to the "modern" jazz approach. By that he's one of the guys who starts playing in the bop/post bop era who brings in a ton of what we players today consider the modern language. One of the player post Coltrane who marries the traditional appoach with modern harmonic concepts. Brecker, Berg Liebman are all post Coltranist although they sound totally modern. Check out any interview from them.
My comments re Joe Henderson were concerned with the relationship between Monk's original composition/performance (the two are, in my view, inseparable - particularly with Monk) ; and the degree to which Henderson reflects his own appreciation of the original material during this particular improvisation. Rather than using it to further an opinion as to who is top of some fruitless 'Celestial League Table of Great Saxophonists' - a rather pointless and depressing pursuit - in my opinion Bob
To compare and say that Joe Henderson learned from Michael Brecker is total ridiculous! Micheal Brecker couldn't wet ot carry Joe Henderson's reed! Lol!
He's not playing the melody, just the 1st 4 bars of Ask me now, a series of 2 -5-1 down chromatically, and just keeps repeating it - the same progression is in the standard tune Lover. Instead of calling it Ask me now, it should be called " 2-5-1"
I don't prefer his technical improvising. I would rather hear loud, brilliant playing or have him play with the music. Unfortunately this song of his doesn't do it for me
Although not a popular opinion with the Coltrane freaks, I agree. Coltrane did have his moments - his playing on "Kind of Blue" was his best, I feel. But, he was largely over-rated. That "sheets of sound" stuff could really get on your nerves . . . . If the 'Trane freaks really ever actually listened to Joe Henderson in comparison, they would see - but not admit - that Joe was a much better player, in every respect. One man's opinion, anyway ~
Joe never ceases to amaze me. I've never heard anyone play that much saxophone and still be so musical about it. He had such command of the saxophone and such a heightened sense of musicality. I want to be like Joe when I "grow up".
Hear hear!
NO ONE has ever played the saxophone with as much FREEDOM as Joe Henderson did.
As Theolonious Monk said- "Jazz is freedom, now you think about that."
Joe is, was, and always will be The Man.
Henderson is the sound of a beautiful soul.
Joe Henderson is one of the kindest and most talented musicians that graced this Earth!
Legend period.
Can't get much better than that - and with Dave Holland on bass and Al Foster on drums!
Can we just talk about how incredible Dave Holland is.
Christopher Barosky Cheers! I’m a drummer and would kill “to work” with someone with Dave’s time and phrasing !
lets just say ..he knows the changes.
The changes are the relatively easy part, getting inside the melody is where it's at.
Joe is a national treasure. Totally agree with your point, Bob, on Joe's performance of the material. And the Dave Holland bass solo is priceless! Thanks so much for posting this!!!!!
Exactly - and unlike a lot of players, Joe Henderson engages with Monk's material in the sympathetic and creative way - He doesn't just blow the changes.
Bob
Bob Hardy exactly ! He reinterprets Monk.., and does so wonderfully !
They were both incredible. Still are.
@barisaxomaphone
.. I can hear Michael Brecker 'getting' a lot of ideas from Joe Henderson in his playing - but I can't hear anything in Joe Henderson's playing that come from Brecker
everybody needs to go to the itunes store and get "an evening with joe henderson." great version of this tune is on that album. and charlie haden and al foster make it swing like hell.
Al Foster is quickly becoming one of my favorite Jazz drummers
Although I've been a fan for years, it just stroke me that Joe Henderson is one of the few saxophonists (with Sonny Rollins) who can express joy as well as sorrow (the latter being much more usual than the first) on his horn...
i love the way he plays this is why i want to learn to play the tenor sax and because john Coltrane
also
Thanks for the ad in the midst of Dave Holland's bass solo.
🤣
Wow, a man so beloved
Great musician
His concept in the intro reminds me of Dolphy's solo piece on bass clarinet at the Illinois concert.
luaptalpac
You're so damn right. It makes your heart sank and rise every time you listen to the man.
I'm not religious, but thanks heaven for giving us such an angelic melody.
I'm going quite now...
Beautiful!
I've always heard the tune as a ballad, and I love this take on it. Beauty! Thanks for sharing.
Over 200000 views! As it should be. xoxoxxoo
can't say i totally agree. They had completely different styles, trying to way different things. Joe couldn't pull off half the stuff Trane does, but vice versa. They're not even comparable. Both of them best at they're OWN playing.
True beauty!!
Mastery personified!!!
Joe had a smooth careful and rounded sound,
@rodite
Hi
Well Joe wasn't a post 'Coltrane' player for me .. I hear him as a contemporary, like Rollins - although Joe was younger by about ten years I think. His Bluenote material (including guest albums like The real McCoy) to my ears are very individualistic and I think he already had his own unique voice by this time.
I don't take much notice of interviews - any player can claim to be 'influenced', but I suspect that is often more a case of 'wanting to be a member of the club'.
My hero...
No one who ever heard Cotrane can forget it, it's part of your soul but Joe was a great player to. There is a record with Jimmie Coob where he plays is butt off and Jimmy plays drums like you never hear today!
Best way to hear the difference between Joe and Coltrane? A Love Supreme and Inner Urge where recorded within a few days of each other with the same trio in the same studio. Both dates are burnin'!
different bass players on the records, however.
god damn this tunes weird. i love monk
Soooooo gooooooood ........***********stars
@Antonio: molto corretto, ho pensato sempre lo stesso confronto a Henderson. Quell'intimità, non l'ho mai sentita a quel punto da altri, neanche da Stan Getz. Aveva una maniera di esprimersi in susurro... Incredibile ed unico!
love it!!
Very nice
@barisaxomaphone
Not sure I follow you ... They were both contemporaries from '70's (when the Brecker Brother's began recording,until Joe's death in 2001), so Joe Henderson had 30 years to 'be influenced' by Mike Brecker - had he heard any ideas that he wanted to be 'influenced by'
... - In my opinion Joe Henderson was a great original creative stylist (which for me is what Jazz is about); and Brecker was an truly excellent saxophone player (whatever that is ultimately supposed to mean).
henderson è il sassofonista più delicato e intimo di tutti
don't know, Trane is beyond any comparison, but if I try I must say I've never heard so much joy in his sound...beauty, yes, but cheerful, bouncy joy? not sure...
Papa Joe !
😮❤️
Most sensible response I've ever seen on RUclips, Bob. And thank you for this incredible material!
Krass!
Ask me WHO Joe is
@bobjazz11
Never ceases to amaze me the "comments" I read. Joe is the link to the "modern" jazz approach. By that he's one of the guys who starts playing in the bop/post bop era who brings in a ton of what we players today consider the modern language. One of the player post Coltrane who marries the traditional appoach with modern harmonic concepts. Brecker, Berg Liebman are all post Coltranist although they sound totally modern. Check out any interview from them.
I don't believe u guys cut Dave's solo!?!?!?
dave holland...damn!
🌼💚🌱🙄
@barisaxomaphone
That's an interesting reason ... i tend to think that Joe was more his own man ... but of course that's only my opinion.
man,, don't ever forget trane
@SaxHero I want to some day meet someone who can play like J Henderson and play with him/her
¡Cómo dibuja!
+Stéfano Sanguinetti Barrios Melodias
My comments re Joe Henderson were concerned with the relationship between Monk's original composition/performance (the two are, in my view, inseparable - particularly with Monk) ; and the degree to which Henderson reflects his own appreciation of the original material during this particular improvisation. Rather than using it to further an opinion as to who is top of some fruitless 'Celestial League Table of Great Saxophonists' - a rather pointless and depressing pursuit - in my opinion
Bob
To compare and say that Joe Henderson learned from Michael Brecker is total ridiculous! Micheal Brecker couldn't wet ot carry Joe Henderson's reed! Lol!
James Poe Michel breaker had a soulless generic sound that I never liked, plus he played corny ass ideas!
@bobjazz11 i agree. i dont hear that much trane in joe's playing.
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Jesse Pinkman on the bass.
Nope, he' Dave Holland.
bro its not his song its a monk tune.
Oh come on, He's dogin' it in front the Germans for some reason.
this was in response to 570395521's comment.
@yalcos4
:-)
He's not playing the melody, just the 1st 4 bars of Ask me now, a series of 2 -5-1 down chromatically, and just keeps repeating it - the same progression is in the standard tune Lover. Instead of calling it Ask me now, it should be called " 2-5-1"
Great musician, a Michael Brecker way...
I don't prefer his technical improvising. I would rather hear loud, brilliant playing or have him play with the music. Unfortunately this song of his doesn't do it for me
Although not a popular opinion with the Coltrane freaks, I agree. Coltrane did have his moments - his playing on "Kind of Blue" was his best, I feel. But, he was largely over-rated. That "sheets of sound" stuff could really get on your nerves . . . .
If the 'Trane freaks really ever actually listened to Joe Henderson in comparison, they would see - but not admit - that Joe was a much better player, in every respect.
One man's opinion, anyway ~