Bigger Picture Denver: Gender: A Wider Lens Featuring Chloe Cole with Stella O’Malley and Sasha Ayad
HTML-код
- Опубликовано: 14 янв 2024
- For those who missed it, a replay of the live @widerlenspod at #genspectbiggerpicture Denver.
Stella O’Malley
Psychotherapist and author of several books, Stella is the founder
and director of Genspect. Stella first became well known for her
work in gender with the 2018 documentary, Trans Kids: It’s Time To
Talk. Moved by how many families were impacted by gender
dysphoria, Stella founded the Gender Dysphoria Support Network
to help parents access appropriate support. Along with Sasha
Ayad, Stella is the co-host of the popular podcast, Gender: A Wider
Lens and is also the co-author of When Kids Say They’re Trans: A
Guide for Thoughtful Parents.
Chloe Cole
Chloe Cole, a poised and articulate 19-year-old young woman,
passionately advocates against the practice of transitioning
minors. Driven by a noble mission to safeguard children from
potentially harmful ideologies and medical interventions, Chloe
draws from her personal experiences to shed light on the
distressing consequences of gender-affirming care for
adolescents. Having embarked on her own transition journey at
the tender age of 12, only to subsequently detransition at 16,
Chloe speaks with firsthand authority on the deeply traumatic
effects experienced by minors undergoing such treatments.
Sasha Ayad
Sasha Ayad is a Licensed Professional Counselor in private
practice. Her work focuses on teens and young adults struggling
with gender dysphoria and gender identity. Concerned about
medical transition for gender-distressed children and teens,
Sasha’s approach is developmentally appropriate least-invasive first talk therapy. Sasha cohosts Gender: A Wider Lens Podcast and
is a founding board member of several organizations including
Society for Evidence-based Gender Medicine, The Gender
Exploratory Therapy Association and Genspect.
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Please subscribe, comment, like and share!
Support our work: genspect.org/donate/
Follow us on Social Media:
X: / genspect
Facebook: / genspect
Instagram: / genspectinternational
RUclips: / @genspect
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
#timesupwpath #GenspectDenver
Amazing young woman, she is a gift to all of the children and families who will be informed and inspired by her story. Thank you Chloe and thank you Genspect. We need you desperately
Seeing her smile so broadly is heart warming. She seems a-lot happier 🙏🏿I’m glad she is working through everything.
I love to see her smiling like that too; that looks like joy on her face. She’s definitely going to be one of the people who take their misery & make it their ministry.
I watched one of her earlier speeches a while ago, and I'm so impressed with her in this interview. Her articulation and interactions while being interviewed have really improved. She's well on her way to becoming a wonderful public speaker.
We are blessed to have you back in all your glory Chloe, your a true champion and hero.
Heard Chloe's story a number of times and is still💔She hangs in there and stays💪You keep on keepin' on and our girls STEEEEEEELLLLLLLAAAAAAA and Sasha, as well as The Kitty... have your back!🐈
me too, time to put some support to TTexulansic as well, she's in need of our attention. some radical fems are putting pressure on her :)
@@MiMaTak 🐈SUPER bonk
@@MiMaTak .. You mentioned my "blue coat", but I left that chat like 3 hours ago. I am there now and cannot see me 😿
@@MiMaTak Pressure to do what?
@@samij6071 to stay silent and shun her
So much respect for this insightful young woman.
Thank you Chloe for being so vulnerable and sharing your personal story with us. Your bravery and resiliency give strength and hope to many people.
She is incredibly well - spoken !
Chloe was misled, lied to, and mutilated. She suffered psychological and physical harm as a result and will carry the scars for the rest of her life. She is not the first or the last abused in this horrific manner. Any adult who thinks even ONE GIRL may benefit by having her healthy breasts removed really needs to ask themselves what led them to this conclusion. Selfishness? Ignorance? Vanity? Same for the adults who mislead and lie to people of all ages by using "preferred pronouns". Stop it.
“When you want to help people, you tell them the truth. When you want to help yourself, you tell them what they want to hear.” -Thomas Sowell
I had a cry listening to her story. I grew up with brothers, played cowboys and indians, dug foxholes in the backyard, climbed trees etc. Omg...i shudder to think if someone thought my play was because i was really a boy, and started the horror that this lovely girl went through. This is abuse beyond belief. Mutilation and justification of surgery etc is some thing out of some macarbe sci-fi.😢 Keep strong young one, your are gorgeous. Sending love from Australia. ❤
Chloe is such an amazing woman. I pray that her message continues to spread.
40:06, "I started become more and more stressed over time for various reasons and I did...I also didn't really have as much room anymore to talk about this with anybody around because I was expected to be tough. I was expected to just be a man." My heart broke when Chloe said that. Sadly, that summarizes a lot of boys' and male youths' experiences with reporting -- reporting child abuse, reporting sexual harassment, reporting bullying -- to adults. ... I reported child abuse. I got lectures about boys needed to take care of their moms. Finally my injuries were serious enough the state removed me from home. But the case plan was fixing me so the state could return me home to take care of my mom. I hope people hear what Chloe said about that part of her experience when perceived as a boy.
Thank you Chloe !
I pray she wins her lawsuit. Any amount of money will never be enough for the physical and emotional damage done to her and so many others.
Chloe is like like a beautiful butterfly 🦋
Such a fantastic young lady.... God bless her for being her and helping others..
Love her story. An amazing young lady!! And very beautiful inside and out.Thank you!!
I was both a tom boy one day then girly the next and all my friends were boys. But i was raised on a farm and fun was mudding, drinking beer. Shooting guns , after a day of haying grabing a beer going to the swiming holes. But i hit Puberty at 8 . I vouldnt admigine anyone telling me i was a boy. The world today is so messed up and im glad my kids missed this horrible stuff and glad my oldest is homeschooling his daughter.
Amazing Chloe 👏 👏 👏 👏 You are glowing! ❤❤❤
Oh my gosh...what she's been through. No teenager should ever have been put in that position. It was wrong.
I'm glad Chloe has come through it, but I feel angry that adults let this happen.
Now this is what I would call a true example of “stunning and brave” if you get the reference. What a powerful and moving testimony of all she went through. Hopefully people in positions of authority and medical providers will sit up and take serious note. A lot of harm goes on in the name of medicine and we need to be aware of that fact anytime we seek medical or psychiatric care.
Wonderful interview.
Glad she is doing better now it’s sad that she had to go through this.
Please more likes to these brave people. 👍🏼
She doesn't give her parents enough blame.
I don't understand how parents consent to these things. Like I just don't comprehend how you look at your sad child and can feel so disempowered as a parent that you consent to such atrocities. The deference to authority thing just doesn't check out. How are folks cutting their kids???
The doctors will say to the parents: "You will either have a living son or a dead daughter"
Its extremely scary for the parents.
@@plantsntrance5513 I'm a parent and I can't relate at all. There's a disempowerment there. As a person with human experiences and empathy, if you try to convince me that cutting body parts off of my sad child is going to make them happier, I'm at least skeptical. You get another opinion, you take time, you try literally every single other option possible first. It's common sense and it's our responsibility.
I really think some of this is the parenting culture in America and how parenting here has become a management task and not a nurturing task i.e. parents are only managing the experts who raise their kids. I think a lot of parents don't see themselves as the final authority with their children. "The doctor said it would help" is not a good excuse for not defending your babies. I really try to get my head around it but I can't
44:51 "We don't perform surgeries on children". Also: "We have a top surgery classroom".
She speaks of social contagion in these geek spaces and I was in one with mostly adults. Adults can be prey to this too. It was The My Little Pony brony community and I made two videos on my questioning the whole thing of people saying they’re non-binary and trans under the assumption there may be social contagion happening in these spaces
Puberty is only experienced in that way when children are schooled. It's school and social media that make them feel uncomfortable, not age. Why would they otherwise?
wow
I feel her pain about getting breasts. I was so angry when I had to start wearing a training bra, & over 30 years later, I still loathe having to wear a bra.
is she wearing angel blue?? slay
I am a Trans-man and I am against medically transitioning minors. I do believe that trans kids should transition just as long as it is not medical because they may grow out of their dysphoria or they may be a happy trans person who is wishing to not pursue medical transition. Not all Trans-adults pursue medical transition some only pursue social transition and some both medically and socially transition, and that is fine because every trans person transition differently, and that is why kids need to wait until they are 18+ to medically transition or not. Even for adults medically transitioning they should undergo non affirmative therapy to see if they are truly Gender Dysphoric or not.
👍🐿
It seems that nowadays youth don’t have the permission to explore their gender identity and try a few different options without being put into a conveyor that ends in medical interventions, drugs, surgical procedures, etc.
It's interesting that males are more into objects and are stimulated more by visuallity, but are much less self aware than females. Even when males hit their late teens and really develop all that upper body strength and have huge amounts of stamina, they don't spend a lot of time looking at themselves in the mirror. Is it openly excepted that males on the whole have a more objective outlook , and females a more subjective?
Self aware you said lol. Sure.
Unlike most people who have transgender journey - it's nice to see she is making a career out of not being trans wow !! So brave!!😂😂
“Transgender journey" 🤡
I thought she was great. Articulate, warm and raising awareness of some of the awful things we are doing to children that can't possibly consent. I hope she lives a happy life ❤
@@Bakeroo i def think those in their journey to discovery should speak about systems... however... this girl.. needs mental help that she still is not seeking out...and those using her to push anti-trans agenda are using her mental problems against her... so... as the comment i said... its great to see she is probably making more money then you.... to "not" be trans... in the meantime... show me one video with either of her parents???
I could be wrong but my understanding is that Genspec are made up of professionals that are supportive of trans people. They are however against medical treatment for children and want to preserve women's spaces for safeguarding purposes. I'm open to listen and learn. Why do you think they are anti trans?
@@Bakeroo my comment is directed towards the young girl they are platforming - and paying... my guess chole is an attention seeker ... and that argument is used against "trans" people healthcare ... kids are not mature enough to be listened to ... but when it fits their narrative it... hey listen to this young person... I've watched enough of her to see she went to several doctors who declined medical intervention - till she found one that did... I don't know where science/medicine can definitively confirm a gender confirmation - any more than validating being gay... this is like "gay" people made straight because of Church...
bs
She’s by no means irreversibly damaged.
If she got something she decided later that she didn’t want, look around. It’s no reason to take it away from the majority that do want it and thrive with it.
As a Desister, most retransition. When will Chloe retransition?
Tell us about Chloe’s anti trans Church in California.
Where did you get your degree in pharmacology?
It’s almost as if teenagers should not make body-altering decisions…🤔
Lies detected
Her voice and her breasts are missing forever. Most also experience hormone after-effects for a lifetime.
Richie (Tullip) got full bottom surgery with severe complications. He "looks normal" but he can't empty his bladder without leaking all over himself like a 90 year old man in a nursing home. He also gets "morning wood" but there's nothing there. Just a phantom limb. Richie has been through multiple surgeries to try to fix the original mutilation.
WPATHs biggest focus is how to skate past "informed consent" for young people with extreme mental comorbidities, how to brush those under the table.
The govt used to ban ASPIRIN for kids because of slight risk of Reyes syndrome.
Wow. Tell her that when she tries to breast feed (that's if she's able to even get pregnant) or the nipple sensation she's lost out on. Having a double mastectomy, is definitely what I would call irreversible damage.
So much whining. There are some people who are going to complain no matter what side they are on, which harms the genuine transgender people who are serious about their necessary transitions. This pity partying is really hurting people who know who they truly are and need access to transition care, but could lose that care because of some whinners who just aren't happy no matter what. It's only a small amount of people that detransition. It always seems to go wrong when someone who was interested in the opposite gender romantically to begin with before they transition, that now lives in regret. Sorry, but once you transition you have to have some place to go with your life romantically or it's not worth it. Everyone is going to want a relationship once they transition. If you like boys and started out a girl who becomes a boy, not much chance of your finding a love match out there. Then comes loneliness. People who detransition who really weren't transgender to begin with, always seem to try to invalidate the people who are truly transgender. That's really terrible to do that. Besides there's nothing in life that is a perfect match for everyone. There's always going to be dissatisfied customers out there.
You're also part of the problem. Nobody wants to reach middle ground. However, I will say she got the diagnosis she wanted so I believe she should take responsibility. She did it to herself. If she has to blame anyone it should be her parents.
I think at a young age one can not make this decision, teenagers change their opinions and get influenced by their surroundings, especially in a world with internet. Ppl want to belong and if they can't find friends in the real world, they will go online and if lgbtq is flashy young ppl will flock to it. Maybe there are people that have this feeling that they should have been another gender all their life but even then it should persist until adult age of at least 25 before doing anything about it because opinions change and a transition is irreversible and often leads to health issues and a need for life-long maintenance by hormones, one should only take the risk of damaging their own body if it is absolutely necessary. Same goes for plastic surgery. I myself have not been happy with my body, my looks and so on but I would rather be ugly, alone and healthy than hurt my body and maybe achieve some beauty standard set by this stupid society or even worse to fit in with a group of people that will only accept me if my goal in life is to mutilate myself, just think about this! You can meet different people, you can change your opinion, your clothes, your makeup, the topics you talk about but you can not get another body if you destroy it! And a child should not be allowed to make a severely life altering decision like that. Every teenager is depressed at some point, and wants to be different or to fit in or both. As a heterosexual female I can definitely say, I would have preferred to be male at some point, especially when my period started, or started working in a predominantly male profession. It is absolutely normal to feel this.
Also, Teenagers should have opinions and be heard and parents should try to understand what their child wants but parents also need to be given some authority to stop them from self harming, for godsakes. I think some children need a good old smack in the face to get through to them that they are being stupid, which most children are. We are raising a generation of whinging little narcissists only because the parent generation was still raised by authoritarian parents that didn't acknowledge that their child was sentient enough feel insulted, when being insulted...but now it's going in the opposite direction where parents are fearful that their child will traumatized if not every unrealistic self absorbed wish of their offspring is fullfilled. Its tragic and sad and will not lead to a better human being when adult than the other extreme!
The brain reaches maturity at 25, so she couldn't consent at the age of 13 and 15. There is a reason why children can't drive, vote or drink alcohol. It's horrendous that they did those things to a young child. It's a shame she's received so much hate and no support from people she considered her friends. She's only talking about her journey and trying to help others. I hope she does well and wishing her a bright future. ❤️
@@nevermore6459 Sure happens a lot in your country, huh? Wonder why that is? Lol.
@@AA-ed6ekBECAUSE IT IS A SOCIAL CONTAGION ON CHILDREN THATS WHY. FOLLOW THE PROFITS!
You people are bizarre, all of you on either side. I'll never understand America's obsession with this. Weird.
Way to say nothing at all. Do you think this is limited to America? Tell me what country you're in and it's likely that this gender cancer is spreading there unless you have an authoritarian government.