You are buying FAKE Toyota & Lexus Parts & DON'T KNOW IT
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- Опубликовано: 14 фев 2020
- I got RIPPED OFF buying GENUINE parts online & you are too with fake or counterfeit parts. These parts are IDENTICAL LOOKING but they are junk auto parts. See what happened to me & how to avoid it happening to you! Toyota, Lexus. Honda, Ford & Mazda are all being targeted. Spark Plugs, Oil Filters, Air Filters, Cabin Filter, Pulleys, Belts, Brakes Pads & more are being cloned and are stealing your money.
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Thanks for watching. Please give my video a *LIKE* and *SUBSCRIBE* to my channel. I hope this helps you realize how BIG this problem is and if you are spending money and taking the time to do your ow repairs GET what you are paying for. Manufacturers are fighting these scumbags but they aren't giving up and want to rip all of us off. I hope this helps you.
@Silver Cymbal
If the price is too good to be true it probably is!
NEVER buy parts from e bay at least critical service parts like timing belts and pullies!
I hope that you contacted and then reported this seller.
@@matthewronson5218 Yes I did, but sadly they are still happily selling away along with dozens of other frauds. eBay took no action I could see
Hyundai have holograms on all their parts bags. But REGARDLESS the aftermarket parts are SO INCREDIBLY bad that they're often fake parts like as in parts that DON'T EVEN WORK. I recently came across a Kia Sedona (hyundai owned) that had a cheap oil filter put on probably full of toilet paper that sucked the filter paper INTO THE OIL PUMP because it disintegrated SO easily and killed the engine as a result of almost no oil pressure.
Big 👍From 🇲🇦 Morocco . I did learn from you where & how to purchase parts ...Thank you again .
eBay and Amazon need to crack down on this type of fraud.
I agree, I know Amazon is to a degree. Not sure how they can completely eliminate it though sadly.
@@SilverCymbal Amazon also has co-mingling, if the bar code matches it don't matter who the supplier is.news.ycombinator.com/item?id=13926015 This is something no one talks about.
They need to stop allowing Chinese companies from selling on them, or make a Made in China version so you know its cheap, fake, crap. Some things cheap are just fine, but somethings like safety items or brake pads should never be fake or cheap.
Vote with your wallet. Buy from the dealer or RockAuto
I've had some stuff on Rockauto that was cheap fakes too. AC Delco filters cut open same as Fram, cardboard crap. Cheap belts, cheap brake shoes.... Etc. Sometimes it tough to decifer the quality vs the cheap crap.
I've even seen the same crap from local auto parts, terrible quality.... I had an alternator from one company with a "lifetime warranty" that died 4 times... They started to claim it was my car & wouldn't warrantee it anymore, so I put a used oem one on from eBay, no more problems.
I can't believe I just head someone say, "if you don't want to get ripped off go to the dealership."
Hehehehe in this case it's true. I bargain with the parts counter, be nice to them and tell them to match online, they don't always but if you get to know one of the guys there sometimes they will always do it for you. That's the bets situation you can get.
Sometimes you can make friends and get deals. I'm friends with the billing manager and some of the parts guys at my local Volvo and Ford dealerships because we find parts for each other sometimes. Something that's now discontinued can be found somewhere else (like eBay) but they REALLY know the parts so they can tell if they're fake or not between looking at the part and feeling it in their hand.
@@SilverCymbal Here in Las Vegas, all dealers charge 20% over list unless you call them on it.
I can walk into my Toyota dealer and pay $$$..... OR...I can buy from THEIR web page for delivery to the dealer....wait a day or 2 to be informed it's "here"...and then walk into the dealership and pay about 1/2. Just the way it works....the dealer can't match his own website prices......just yesterday bought 5 Toyota oil filters for about $21 total, delivered.
@@TheWilferch I’ve had the same experience. Apparently the manufacturer subsidies the online purchases but not in store.
I drive a saturn. I only get my parts from the junkyard..
Lol
But there is cars that cannot be found in junkyards
I do same brother.
Do the same except for maintenance parts.
My ex was so stupid, she paid 29500 for her Saturn ion; now worth nothing
For my next car I going to get chinese-made Geely, this way I can be sure I am getting a real fake.
Or just buy a Volvo then
@@djvasforever I was about to say that :D
Even Chinese brands are copied... remember: brands
EveryOne should know that China and some other countries are Masters of Copycat in Everything including Secret Spy...
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This is the second video in 2 days I have watched showing fake parts from eBay and also Amazon. Thanks for posting.
Thank you very much, it's sad this is becoming a huge thing. The more people that know though will help stop it or at least discourage it. Thanks
Yea the other one I saw was the Ford guy regarding the spark plugs.
I can't spell his screen name correctly but it says Ford tech make you loco .....this crap is getting out of hand
MrHillfolk agreed and I saw that video too, it’s also a waste of materials for making fake products
@@Airwolf2030
Ii shook me up haha.
I got some trw tie rod ends over the weekend from a reputable supplier, but the boxes differed slightly.
Made me suspicious , could be nothing could be something.
so I sent a couple pics off to trw hopefully I'll hear something soon.
MrHillfolk okay and I hope it’s genuine/legit, my transmission mount is difficult to get so the only two places that has it is ebay and rockauto so I tried ebay and it’s a name brand aftermarket part which worked very well with my car
EBay has become such a dump, it's sad.
Amazon too.. fake spark plug,ecc..
It used to be so awesome, like the old flea markets. Now all it is a gateway for endless imported junk, fake products and cell phone cases.
eBay is great so long as you go to it realizing you're going to get CCJ (Cheap Chinese Junk). You can find a plethora of items that will "do the job" for much cheaper than you can get elsewhere. Sure, the quality will be a little dodgy, and you may get ripped off from time to time, but, a lot of money can be saved if you know what you're looking at and aren't afraid to send the items back/complain to eBay. So far, I've been satisfied with my eBay purchases. I just got an aluminum ladder today. Sure, it's a little dodgy, but for what I need it for, it "will do just fine" and cost half of the cost of a similar ladder from Walmart or Amazon. You get what you pay for, and I doubt this ladder will last a lifetime, but it will do for what I need and last long enough. Not like I'm going to be using it commercially or for heavy-duty use.
F Maz
Dump also like Fukcbook
Agreed. As a sales person for garden machinery I see so much rubbish machinery being sold on Amazon and eBay at cheap prices. Issue is if it goes wrong and you review it on their listing or their own company website, they always have the same comment to show that they replied back and apparently care about you"We are sorry that the product you brought isn't to your standard please call us on a number no one will answer you on or a email address that will never be looked at or send the product back at your own cost to us to be repaired because we don't have a dealer network"
Believe it or not some dealerships are even putting non-oem parts in your car when you get service from them, and insurance companies allow body shops to fix your vehicle with non-oem parts after a collision. This is a horrible time to be a consumer.
you right all dealerships in california do that i buy new camry they offer 4 time oil chage 2 time a year in 6 month i drop only 3000k miles before i go to dealer for service i mark the oil filter .after service when go home i see my oil filter still they never change from now on i do by my self f dealership
Everything is faked today. I'm safe because i buy Fram filters. No one would copy them ha ha.
ruclips.net/video/iTNJLEV8CG8/видео.html Skip to 4: 58 in that video, hes talking about Fram filters very informative
The hell they can't. That one is a has been done.
Most if the net disinformation about Fram is just that.
WM installs over one Million Fram filters every month.
How many engines blown up and how many lawsuits?!
Buy a better $$$ filter.
@@hotrodray6802 Just a joke ,. i really use Fram.
@@ctsfiddler - I used to but I have seen the evidence and apparently, so has Fram, so now they have changed their filters for more quality! Turns out that Fram was putting more money into hype than their product!
People who sell fraudulent products should go to prison for 10+ years. Completely evil and deceptive people.
These really are the worse of the worst too, changing plugs on some cars can take 4 hours+ only to find out your new 100k plugs last 3 months!
@@SilverCymbal That'd be terrible. Or getting a crap timing belt that snaps and destroys your engine. All sorts of things could happen because these people are greedy.
it is china that is the problem they encourage this outright theft of copyrights and they don't recognize any patents the whole country has the motto make it whatever way is cheapest
Amazon started doing more deals with Chinese companies after the pandemic. THAT is that biggest factor. They are responsible for the products put on their platform. Nike pulled the plug and refuses to sell on Amazon now, but theres millions of shoes you can buy there still. Counterfits galore. And Amazon doesn't care so long as it makes its profit.
us government let them do that they dont care
Little-known fact: it's MitsubOshi, with an O. (Not to be confused with Mitsubishi.) Mitsuboshi is a parts manufacturer in Asia, and they make a lot of rubber and plastic machine parts, including automotive / engine parts (for companies like Asin, Toyota, Yanmar, and others).
GREAT VIDEO. From now on, all my stuff will come from the dealer.
Marv thank you!!
Yes this is correct
Yes those belts are oem for nissan aisin they made in Japan and they produce high quality belts
Thank you for the detailed comparison! Oh - and, Ill apologize now - because this comment is a long read - but it will be informative - it will have a recommendation - I have NO affiliation with Toyota Parts, etc. - I am simply telling my story!
On my quest to replace the timing belt on my 2006 Tundra, I was initially lured by ‘Toyota’ kits online (including timing belt, water pump, gasket, pulleys - and some with the tensioner too) which were priced around $200 -$250. HOWEVER, this is a big job on my Tundra (especially since I also planned to replace Camshaft seals and much more) and I did not want to do it twice due to defective and/ or FAKE parts - so I read copious amounts of reviews on these kits - and, I saw a pattern of premature water pump failure emerging. Frankly, thats all it took for me to end any thought of buying the parts anywhere other than an authorized dealer.
Here comes the fun: I contacted the Toyota dealer a few miles away and asked for a parts quote for my truck. I was quoted $181 for the water pump and gasket ALONE. I thought I could do better - called two more Houston, TX dealers - same price. It became easy to see why the ‘fake?’ kits are alluring without even having a price for the other parts. By the time I added the two timing belt pulleys, the timing belt, and the tensioner to the water pump (for comparison to the popular ‘fake?’ kits), I was looking at $600 for the parts listed as O.E. Toyota parts in the $249 online kits! Thats a big difference for most of us!
Still, my search continued because I still wanted all of the innermost, critical parts (at least) to be real OE Toyota parts so as to hedge my bet on long term durability - especially since I was also in need of cam/crank seals, Serpentine belt & tensioner, fan pulley bracket, alternator, valve cover gaskets, spark plug tube seals, etc.
As the parts bill was climbing, I decided that I could use Gates parts for the Serpentine belt and tensioner and an aftermarket supplier on the alternator because these are ‘outer’ parts which are much more easily addressed in the case of premature failure. But, for the rest of it - I wanted Toyota parts. Heres my referral:
I found McGeorge Toyota online parts. I verified that they are actually a Toyota dealer in Henrico, Va. I priced out the same parts included in the popular $250 ‘fake?’ kits and it was $370. So, okay - it’s still more expensive - but, I am reasonably assured that I am getting the quality that I’m looking for in OE parts. Plus - $370 was a lot better than $600 at my local dealers ( which, by the way, I gave them an opportunity to compete - I even showed them the quote from McGeorge Toyota - and I was offered 10% off... still $540 vs $370).
So, for the overall analysis- I paid $120 more than the $250 kits - and I’m fine with it because I believe that I have a greatly diminished chance of being one of those guys writing a scathing review about a water pump that failed after 9 months, one year, etc.
Oh - something else - most of the parts I received from McGeorge were in the updated boxes that were shown in Silver Cymbals video.
I hope this helps someone.
I was in Hanoi Vietnam and they have mopeds and motorcycles everywhere. Like 100,000 on the roads all the time. I saw lots of people working on them too. They guy I was talking to said 95% of the parts are counterfeit in every store because they are so cheap. But the brake pads are destroyed after about 2,000 miles and just crumble apart. So they replace them often and have never known any different. The difference there is that when someone dies due to a malfunctioning part (sadly often) they can’t or don’t sue the manufacturer and they do different maintenance knowing they are crap. Imagine buying a new timing chain or brakes or whatever here and they fall apart on you because you don’t know they are fake?
Counterfeiting a t-shirt or Rolex is one thing. Counterfeiting Brake pads is horrible.
如果可以骗 - scam if you can
I'm glad you posted this video my friend. I work at automotive parts company and its amazing how many people don't know the difference between OE, OEM and aftermarket parts, and now you have to worry about counterfeit parts as well. I hate to say this but, scammers are getting better and better at their job and even I'm having tough time recommending good and reliable parts to customers. cheers
I love how so much effort goes into stopping fake clothing and accessories but they dont seem to care about stopping fake auto parts. fake clothes wont kill people, fake auto parts could!
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and food!!??!!!
Mine says made in Thailand are they any good? For the oil filter
@@Jmoney-db4rp The oem filter cartridges I got from the dealer and from walmart says Thailand.
This makes me feel sick thinking I've been getting a great deal and all along getting ripped off. Thanks for sharing 👍🏻
Notice the 35 scammers who disliked this video.
104 dislikes now.
179 now
Could be shop owners that use these parts and sell them as genuine. I worked for Advance auto in the 90's-2000's in upstate NY. The local GM dealership was buying front wheel hub bearings by the case (8). They were using them as warranty parts because the GM part was on backorder....
nismo2070 GM .... Now we see why Scotty Kilmer Jose Junkyard when he mentions of General Motors
More like Amazon shareholders. Need to keep those sales up, even with fraud, let the rippoffs continue just to pump up the bottom line.
I bought some Espar heater parts from an authorized Espar facility, was sold Chinese aftermarket parts for the same price as the German originals. I felt rippef off. Thanks for this video and spreading awareness.
I used to work at a German air compressor distributorship. The guy used to order complete aftermarket parts and lie to his customers. He would also have some of the original parts in stock. Not sure why he had them. Probably in case he got called out and had to prove that he was using. Original equipment
Sad story but I think things like this go in all the time. Tough to find honesty as much these days.
Hopefully, you quit when you discovered your boss was a fraudster!
@@buckbuchhagen726 oh hell yeah. Zero tolerance for crap like that. As a matter of fact I ratted him out to his customers
Thanks for taking the time to do this. It's only going to get worse now with the increase in porous boarders. In the music industry the largest dealer Music Tribe is produces all their items in China and they now only sell to Amazon and Sweetwater. Amazon is not interested in protecting their consumers.
Thanks for shining some light on this. It’s been going on for years!
Sadly this video really needed to be made. But worse is how big this problem has become.
I appreciate the time you took to make the video! It's good to get this information out. But I noticed that you blurred out the sellers name that sold you the counterfeit parts? Why are we protecting counterfeit sellers identitys?
I hope you left a negative review to warn others.
I did. I reported them also.
You can get refund too
Thanks for the heads-up! Fraud is getting harder and harder and this is great that you're putting it out there.
I learned something here. I never knew Ebay sold counterfeit parts marked as original.
eBay and Amazon, etc, are just hooking buyers to sellers for a commission. PayPal is your only assurance of help.
Trouble is if a part fails 2 months later you are still stuck with doing it all over again.... Regardless of the finances.
@@hotrodray6802 Absolutely. So many people knock PayPal but they always give you your money back. I have had ZERO problems with Paypal and now use use on every internet purchase where it is an option.
Ebay sells nothing. Ebay connects you with sellers, and you buy from them.
Everyone knows that Ebay sells nothing. Everyone except red dog # dumb.
The fake NGK spark plugs for hondas has been a major one. Even saw plugs for a ford V8 where the electrode coming from the thread side started to break off NEW still in the box.... hyundai has suffered this problem SO MUCH that they have a hologram on all their parts bags and their vehicle manuals say not to use parts not in the hologram packets. The hyundai/kia aftermarket parts are often fake as in THEY DON'T WORK. Like as in guys selling sensors that are just 2 wires with a resistor inside a block of plastic hanging on the end of the wires type fake. I recently saw a Kia Sedona that died because they used a cheap filter. It was probably full of newspaper or toilet paper and it DISINTEGRATED and a big clump of paper went into the oil pump and oil pressure dropped dramatically as it blocked and the engine nearly died. Started but was knocking like hell and basically at the end of its life, wouldn't get another 100 miles. JUST BECAUSE of a few bucks saved on ebay.
I bought "Honda" spark plugs from ebay in 2015. As an actual Honda Tech at the time, I was completely fooled and I legit thought they were real. Immediately after startup, it ran horribly and after a quick drive, the electrodes were completely gone from the plug. Never again. You think of fake handbags, shoes and clothes but you never suspect you could be buying fake auto parts.
Now that Iridum plugs can cost $20 at the dealer, these losers are putting copper or even worse metals in fake iridium plugs and there is no way to tell until your ignition burns out or has other problems. I don't buy any brand parts online due to this, The problem is 100x bigger than people realize.
That’s right man, straight to the point. Ebay is full of fake Toyota parts, really well packed, you can’t tell the difference. I buy from eBay but only from Toyota official store or well known dealerships outlets, not from private sellers or China. Btw Mitsuboshi are manufacturers of genuine belts and officials suppliers for many Japanese auto makers
This is one of the most informative, and very important videos on youtube. Thanks. I also found your video about water softeners very helpful.
Thanks for posting this. I've bought a few Toyota and Lexus items on eBay, but mainly just accessories (floor mats, a truck bed mat, etc.), and only from Toyota or Lexus dealers that sell on eBay. There are also plenty of Toyota and Lexus dealers out there that sell directly online through their own Websites, many at deep discounts compared to buying parts over the counter, even when it's the same dealer.
Always compare pricing, and watch shipping costs. Some dealers may charge a little less, but then charge higher shipping fees. Fill up your shopping cart on different sites and compare pricing and shipping, to find your best deal.
Some eBay sellers will mislead while not being outright deceptive. Yesterday I ordered a pack of spark plugs for one of our daughters' cars, a 2014 Kia Forte sedan. Kia dealers selling online charge from $13 to $15 per plug (these are NGK platinum plugs with a 105,000 mile change interval), and plenty of eBay sellers out there sell four packs that appear to be NGK plugs in Hyundai/Mobis (Mobis is one of their parts brands) boxes.
Right after I ordered the plugs (they were about $15 for four plugs; other sellers offer "Genuine Hyundai/Kia" spark plugs for around $30 for four), I noticed the word "unbranded" in the ad, even though the ad pictures were of NGK plugs with Hyundai/Mobis individual plug boxes and a Hyundai/Mobis four-pack box with a holographic label sealing one end. I suspect the pictures were simply lifted from another eBay ad.
I contacted the seller and asked them directly about whether they were NGK parts in a Hyundai/Mobis box, or something else. They answered "It is the aftermarket product with good quality and it is the same as the picture". Well, not really the same as the picture, since they're not NGK plugs in a Hyundai/Mobis box. I asked them to cancel it, and fortunately they did. I also warned them not to run pictures of items that are different from what they're selling, as it's misleading.
The fake one also says "Belt Timing". The real one says "Belt V Ribbed" . Counterfeit stuff is everywhere! FYI: If you're still getting the noise after doing those pulleys it will most likely be the water pump. They make kind of a rough grinding noise.
Timing belt is different from ribbed V-belt though
Thanks for pointing this out. I fixed a few appliances over the years with "oem" whirlpool parts from eBay over the years and swear they were crap quality. Makes me wonder if this is the same scam. (Very likely!)
As soon as I saw the font of the part number and part description on the label of the counterfeits, I knew they were fake. You can see the font/text is thinner and slightly different than on the genuine labels.
I buy a lot of Toyota/Lexus parts for my cars as I do all the maintenance/repairs myself, and I know a genuine part when I see one.
So glad you’ve made the video for everyone to be aware of. I can’t stand fake parts online. It can be hard to tell, especially when they show pictures of actual genuine items.
Thank you for sharing your experiences. Always the auto dealers parts are (supposed to be) original. But in the other hand, extremely over price, specially in the USA.
We are victims of fake parts in one hand. And victims of greed by car dealers.
One way or the other we always get rep off!
Hi I'm in Asia. You have been completely honest.
I've stopped shopping on Ebay and ESPECIALLY Amazon, they act like they're trying to do something about it and are not, they are in on the scams and have been raking it in.
You should have shown the seller so people will know not to buy from there. By blocking it , you have allowed them to continue their dishonest practice that will harm others .
I'm glad you covered how to get affordable genuine parts at the end. I do some work on my own and it does save money but you're right, you never know if the new part is legit
Great video. I wish I’ve known that before I brought my 02 sensors. But also the problem lies with the online vendors like eBay and Amazon they should check and make sure those are original quality parts OEM parts if not OEM at least not fake knock offs. Like you say ,from now on strictly from a dealer.
You are 100%right. found that out when i needed a wheel bearing. Beautiful oem box bit the part looked like it was polished with a sand blaster. I ran to the dealer and saw the real difference. From that day even oil and filter are getting purchased at the dealership. Thanks great video.
Thank you, imagine all that work too changing the bearing out then it fails 6 months later. It's really a double ripoff to us, time and money!
Great great video. I've never bought anything from Ebay as I can tell they sell trashes. But now you make me question all Toyota Genuine parts I've been purchasing from Amazon for years.
You and me both I am 99% sure most of what I have ordered was not genuine. This isn't a matter of the same part. Platinum plugs are copper inside, filters are less restrictive. For me I am moving to only buying from real dealers online to get a discount but not get junk parts. There is also a similar video on Fords right now, the problem is just as bad. Bad news for all of us, but at least you can be educated for future purchases.
I've only gotten one bad thing off eBay.
But I never buy car repair parts there.
I had returns problems with rockauto so I buy local. At least I can get in their face if necessary.
It is a good source of information. Today I was told by my friend who is a Toyota mechanic. He told me you can tell a Genuine Toyota parts has a very small round sticker on the package. It is about 1/4" size. Now I encountered your video.
Excellent information. Thank you for researching this problem. Probably explains why my new “Toyota” radiator cap didn’t hold pressure. End up buying another again.
Ran in the garage and checked my oil filters, no apparent made in China sticker, but a lot harder to tell by the filter it self w/o cutting open. 🤔
Very true, I buy a lot of oem filters. I will only be buying them if it ships from a dealer from now on. Toyota released some testing videos that showed the clone ones don't even stop 1/2 of the material. If you want Fram, Wix, etc. those are fine but faking brands is just bad news,
@@SilverCymbal
How do you know that WIX isn't being counterfeited? Denso and NGK are commonly counterfeited.
Original Chevy parts will break just as fast as fake parts :))
Steve Wilson not in trucks
True
The fakes are actually upgrades in the case of GM parts.
Whatever... At least I can still get dealer parts for 25+ year old GM vehicles. Have fun doing that with Japanese brands.
@@halohunter5217 True, but only because they sell 1,000,000+ trucks per year Chevy/GMC to a Japan 10-20,000 in any mass produced model? and a truck is a real tool.
That was an eye opener. Thanks for bringing awareness.
G'day to you from Australia,
Thank-you for your video, I have been aware of fake spare parts. I HAVE to use NGK spark plugs on my Nissan 350z and 300ZX. Fakes are all over the net. So I am prepared to pay a premium and order my ngk's from a popular local auto shop.. I hope you get a massive audience, once again thanks for bringing the subject up.. Cheers from Oz.
Watched a video yesterday on fake Ford parts. It seems that unless you buy right from the dealer, you don't really know if it's real.
Yeah get parts you want as OEM from a dealer or TRUSTED source, or study how the packaging should be if it's a discontinued part or common item. I love ebay but I wouldn't jump to buying oem auto parts from there. Same with amazon, but at least amazon returns are easier.
Ford takes to court any copy cat parts so aftermarket makers must change slightly!
@@canadacatalyst doesn't matter how slightly or massively a box / part is changed for copyright reasons, if the automakers brand is on the part or box it's court material. Just changing a font or paint color doesn't bypass the legal protection an automaker has.
Or you go to the dealer or you go to Pepboys,AutoZone, O'Reilly's,Rockauto.com.No eBay no Amazon I leave learned the lesson today!!
Even dealers pull shithead shinanginas. Moral of the story is we're consumers trying to navigate a shithead minefield called life. One wrong step and you're getting shit on.
People selling fake parts are crooks and should go to prison like any other criminal.
100% agree, they get away with it since the parts fail down the line
Been preaching this for many years! Nice video comparison.
Those counterfeit NGK spark plugs are a nightmare to avoid, even on Amazon not just eBay.
This is great to know! Thanks
Stealerships mark up their parts heavily. NAPA has never done me wrong from brakes to bearings to engine parts you can't beat the quality and almost always way cheaper than the dealers
They actually don’t mark up prices. Tune up parts from Toyota are comparable in price to Napa.
NAPA parts aren't as good (in relative terms) as they used to be.
@Norm T get your head out of your ass. You're probably selling fake original parts yourself! You can't employ fake advertising for turning full profit and argue that it's okay. It's not! It's fraud!
Rumen Hristov ✔️✔️✔️💯💯💯😂
@Norm T you have a good point, but the trouble for me is the lies on the outside. I'm fine with a part that says "Toyota-like," "Better than Toyota," "almost-Toyota," or "Toyoyota" :D let the reputation of your after-market part speak for itself on its own brand. lies on the outside tell me that there are lies on the inside B)
Thanks for the video. I always buy filters for my Tacoma and my wife's Highlander on Amazon. Went back through my purchase history and the seller was "Daytona Toyota". They give their address, and it matches up with a real physical dealer, so I think I'm ok, but what a wake up call. Now I'm wondering if maybe I should quit complaining about the switch to the filters where you change just the element and re-use the can. At least you can see what you're putting in there. . .
Thank you for posting. We can only blame ourselves for sending all of our manufacturing and technology to China. We helped them become the masters of counterfeits. If anything, let's hope this current crisis brings all the production and jobs back to the USA.
God damn, that's a powerful comment
Cheers matey for an extremely valuable clip.
Thank you
That's why I started only getting online parts from rockauto. eBay is full of cheap and scam products.
Except there's several cases of people getting fakes on rock auto including a guy in the comments section here.
Probably ordered the cheapest option for the part.i stay in the mid-range options and haven't had a problem yet.
Rockauto is the worst offender for junk parts
@1dueceon9er wtf is a "steering belt"?
halo hunter he meant a power steering belt
Thank you for the video. This happened to me on one of my vehicles. The new timing belt lasted only 12,000 miles.
You are right it a huge problem i had the same issue with a honda transmission filter I sent it right back , Its amazing how many dealers are now selling on ebay
I hate crappy parts. Thanks for the tips!
Agreed.. Its a shame and China is behind every bit of it. One good source for online parts at amazing prices is Sparks Toyota out of Myrtle Beach SC. They have an Ebay store and seem to beat everyone else price wise.
Now I feel uneasy. I installed eBay genuine Toyota parts, the same one's on your video 6 months ago. I'll keep an eye on them. Great video.
That's what I was like too. Then I confirmed they were fakes. Not much to worrry about other than just be alert for new purchased items. Terrible thing they have done to all of us
Thx for posting. I am in a process of buying a part to change oil on my 2018 Toyota. This video give me a head up
Im glad it helped. Unfortunately it is very tough now for all of us who fix our own cars. But at least now you know and can get the real parts you want. Thanks
Yeah, and those who think that servicing their car at the dealership are getting original OEM parts need to wake up. Not all dealers use Genuine OEM parts when they service the cars they sell. Something to think about
I worked for BMW and i can only agree with you....
Thats scary
Good catch! Pay a little more up front, but In long run you saved yourself thousands in repairs.
Thanks for the warning about Amazon too, avoid the third party sellers!
Thanks for looking out for us.
The real problem here is not selling aftermarket parts, it's actually lying to your customers and overcharging them.
Exactly. Aftermarket is fine. Fake market is absolutely fraud
Very informative. I don't know how many parts I've bought on Amazon and eBay that were supposed to be original OEM. Now, I'm worried and scared, as safety is an issue.
If the OEM part was more than 2x more expensive than the ebay one, its a fake.
@@Born_Stellar Not a good method. What if both are around the same price? How about I sell you non-OEM ones at OEM price. 🤓
Thanks for this video, it helps a lot.
I retired from being a mechanic some fifteen years ago ..... but even then we noticed something odd. Girling and Lockbeed parts arriving from our local brake supplier would come in appropriate boxes with their company logos ....but the parts themselves did not seem to be quite as nicely made as those we had been used to. Attempting to bleed the rear brakes on a Ford Fiesta, one afternoon, we discovered a new Girling wheel cylinder had a rubber seal missing !! We never investigated the growing problem because we changed over to 24 hour recovery ( towing) but either these parts were made 'under licence' without sufficient quality control ..... or they were fakes slipped into the supply chain at some point. Another thought: A new 7.5 tonne recovery vehicle we bought came on Continental tyres. Those original tyres lasted nearly 4 years. New Continental tyres fitted by a local tyre bay lasted barely eighteen months. Were these really made by Continental. ......? I don't know.
Great and informative video 😁👍🏻
Wow thanks for the video. What’s the saying says pay for what you get if the price is too good to be true.
Very true!
Oh man! I just bought some parts for my sequoia yesterday 2/21. Not from a dealer. I’ll wait till they get here to determine there quality visually.
Be careful. Remember a return is better than getting ripped off.
Hello, Thanks for highlighting the fake parts from online sellers. Many companies also buy the cheaper fakes and charge dealer prices and tell you that the product is genuine. You mentioned in the video to buy from dealers who are genuinely registered dealers, however how can someone from overseas etc determine who is a genuine dealer when shopping online? Some insight would be helpful and much appreciated. Thanks
I closed my ebay account last year. Too many problems, this was one.
Might have been the best choice yet, the more I look the more lies I see there
Best move ever
I did as well
now with taxes. I have stopped using ebay for about two years.
I would only purchase things on ebay as a last resort. I never really liked anything I ever purchased from them. I know some people like it but I prefer good quality price is second.
No need to feel ripped off. Simply dispute the credit card charge and put the burden of proof on the manufacturer/seller.
Yes that was fine for me. Sadly many others never realize it until the cheap parts fail prematurely after the return policy or dispute period ends.
@@SilverCymbal EXACTLY What they are betting on..and winning
Hassel and TIME.
Lesson Learned....Thanks for an informative video!
Thank you for the this video !!! I had no idea this type of fraud even existed
Thank you, it's so prevelant on ebay you will have a hard time finding the genuine sellers
I saw immediately where the belt was stamped MITSUBOSHI instead of MITSUBISHI. China companies are infamous for making a very slight change in the spelling, hoping no-one notices. Look closely, you'll find it everywhere.
FYI, Mitsuboshi is a legit belt maker though.
@@vwbeaner Yes they are and they have made belts for Toyota, but not this one. It's a phony on both counts. This was some feedback from someone on Amazon who bought one of these "oem" Toyota belts AMAZON REVIEW: The package box look pretty good which made me pretty excited at the beginning when opening the package.
The web image showed the belt is "Made in Japan", someone also confirmed it is made in Japan and this is the sole reason why I placed my order for my car. But when I received it, the printing on the belt showed it was "Made in U.S.".
To me the manufacturing quality is inferior because two very obvious joints can be seen on the teeth side. The two adjacent teeth looked very differently from all other teen because of different material is used with these two teeth. Also portion of the belt showed some part of the internal material which is reddish along the belt edge while other part are fully covered with black material. The belt does not look clean on both sides as well. It is not greasy so the marks or dust from the belt can be cleaned by the buyer easily but that may make buyer feel it is not well treated at the production.
Great Amazon service and no hassle return and refund! I love it.
@@vwbeaner Even worse, can you imagine installing a true timing belt only to find out it's a cheap copy that could fail in 50k miles. Its not fair since you would have no one to sue and blame the manufacturer. Makes you wonder how many issues came from problems like this. The belt I replaced that was super loud had no markings at all. I wondered if it was original.
Silver Cymbal I was just implying that it wasn’t misspelled by accident. They are an actual company too. I’m glad you got your money back on the bad parts.
mitsuboshi is a legit oem company that supplies oem parts to major Japanese car companies
Thank you! Appreciate the heads up.
Any time!
I buy my parts from an online retailer, so they are a company with customer service, warranty and a reputation to lose. You don't necessarily need OEM parts. There are quality manufactures in France or Germany. That is more economical. Plus for example, Continental uses High-Tech Rubber, so you can actually upgrade your car while saving money. Happy repairing.
Actually this is just sad.
I mostly get aftermarket parts for my cars, from brands that I've been using for years. Some more specific parts that only original standards get the job done, I buy them from the dealership.
There is so much crap online that you be better buy off some aftermarket parts, from real brands with testing and quality facilities, than some counterfeit chinese that dont even try to be close or meet the original manufacturer standards, all these counterfeit parts do is trying to match visually with original parts and also trying not to break upon installation, nothing more...
Nice to see someone actually showing off this problem! Keep going ma man!
Thank you for the great video, unfortunately it is a year too late for a buddy of mine, he bought a timing belt kit that was said to be OEM for his 2010 honda odyssey off of ebay, had it installed only to have the timing belt break after 20k miles. Needless to say he needs a new engine now, you live and learn; I sure hope that there is a special place in hell for these sellers.
Sorry to hear that These are the stories that people need to hear. We are getting scammed so badly and the damage is real. Sadly you will see comments from people that think it's just fine and who cares. What happened to you is reality. I hope they all get busted and rot too for hat they are doing to us.
The fake serpentine belt, has “belt, timing” written on the tag, id say that’s a clue.
Actually, that is the way many stock items are written in the military (e.g. polish, shoe or canteen, water)and logistics world. That alone is not a give-away.
@@keithw4920 The clue is IT ISN'T A TIMING BELT.
@@thebeetalls AH, got it.
@@keithw4920 hm, good to know, thanks
I'm a Toyota Master Diagnostic Tech and you're vid is very important. I cannot tell you how many people come in with so called OEM parts and they have an issue with them.
Thanks for this valuable information.even I was thinking of buying some external moving spares for my toyota etios car but now I have changed my decision to get it fitted at toyota dealer's work shop.
Very good idea, there are way more fake parts than real ones on there so it's too easy to be cheated and then get faulty or weak lasting parts.
If it seems like a great deal....it’s probably a knock off....pay a few bucks more to buy from a reputable seller...you can also contact the manufacturer to report counterfeit parts......
Buyer beware.
Very true
Wow thanks! I had no idea, great video!
You bet!
Great video, I got fake spark plugs (purchased online) & they didn't last long. I now buy my parts from a reputable source.
That's the worst, some plugs now take 2-3 hours to change since they are done so rarely The last thing you need is platinum spark plugs that are actually using a carrot inside as a conductor!
I know there are some legit sellers on eBay and Amazon but I just can't risk it anymore after getting so many "genuine" parts that are obviously fake.
It's everywhere. Not just car parts. I bought an Orbit garden hose timer from eBay. Picture looked legit. Paid full retail. Got a $2 knockoff. Complained to the seller and threatened action against them. They refunded me in full and I still have the POS thing. A lot of times, you can get your money back, but you gotta go after them pretty hard.
Using PayPal is a plus.
@@hotrodray6802 I've never had PayPal refund me. It's always been either the seller, or eBay. Unless it was PayPal in the background and I didn't know it. It seemed like it was always eBay I had to file complaints with.
@@bloodybones63 Years ago they were good. Then. Soros took a massive stake in them, now they're trash.
Wow ! Thanks for the information !
Hey thanks a lot good video. I wish RUclips was as transparent. Leg cramps so much junk down my throat chunky commercials junkie videos it's really nice to see a good video.
Im starting to see that too every channel is owned or run by someone calling the shots. I have sponsored videos, but they only make up about 10% of my channel. This video is just me getting pissed off about losers ripping us all off.
My friend's plane crashed because of a fake part. He survived, but at a price to his well being.
amazon is another one selling fake OEM parts btw
That is a faithful machine. I own an IS300 version of this generation.
The problems of IS series are well known and easily fixable so it is worth investing in by getting oem parts.
Thank you for an eye-opening video!
I got ripped off too I ordered an ignition control module and a coil and an optispark wire harness for a 94 Chevy Camaro 5.7 l from Amazon and it was crap the wire harness was wired incorrectly and the wire gauge was wrong the ignition control module did not work correctly it put out the wrong voltage causing my plugs to over fuel making it to run like a misfire I have not even tried the coil I now go do the auto parts stores and Order genuine GM parts or to a Chevrolet dealership for accuracy these online companies are rip-offs !
A few other stories on similar items here now too. The coils and ignitions are become big money for these guys. Bad for us, but the more everyone knows the better.
@@SilverCymbal you are correct and the more people know the better I think these online companies should be held accountable like Amazon and eBay as online predators?
counterfeit parts, is like printing money.
Exactly!
Whoa!!! I'm so glad I saw this...(even if it's 2yrs after production). A plethora of information in this video.