1000mm/s: FULL PRINT STUDY on Voron Ferrari
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- Опубликовано: 21 авг 2021
- More, here in the video description:
I started with a V0.0 Kit from Aliexpress (now it's 0.1, which is better in any respect)*:
Formbot Voron V0.1 Kit (AliExpress) bit.ly/39kfWdC
LDO Voron V0.1 KIT (Caribou3D) bit.ly/3KBxqzL
Recommended Kits for bigger DIY printers:
Voron 2.4 Kit (AliExpress) kit bit.ly/3PklmWE
Voron Trident Kit (AliExpress) bit.ly/3yxMaNe
STL files, instructions and BOM:
247printing.gumroad.com/l/247...
The full print recorded on a FLIR ONE PRO thermal camera is uploaded!
Awesome motion pictures to realize that the part cooling is just on the limit here.
Settings and 247upgrades done on this printer: Please see below!
I started my build with a kit from Formbot (Aliexpress)
A convenient and good quality start, but you may change/add some parts*:
s.click.aliexpress.com/e/_AD5kIa
After tuning the Voron 0.0 to "247 Stage 1", it is possible to do this feasibility study of a full and uncut 1000mm/s print, which opens potentials for faster daily FDM printing at high quality.
The Voron Zero is a very good basis for tuning at low cost, as the moved parts are light weight.
A great open source design by vorondesign.com!
Detailed explanations will follow:
My series "Deep Dive into Speedprinting" is in the work - stay tuned for that!
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Next Videos:
- complex print at 1000mm/s (RPI holder) - Preview on Instagram/Twitter/Reddit/Facebook!
- entry to "VzSpeedCube challenge" (speed AND quality matter!)
- a speedprint at flawless quality of a 3D Benchy in PLA: way below 10 minutes
- a print of a 3D Benchy as fast as possible: faster than 4 minutes
- Video Series: "Deep Dive into Speedprinting": Motion, Extrusion, Cooling, Software
- More? My list for content is insanely HUGE - keeps me busy for years...
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---------------Settings and Setup:
Filament*: ESUN ABS+ - a great choice filament for strong parts and easy printing:
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Layer 1: 200mm/s (requested).
Layer 2: 450mm/s (requested).
Layer 3 to end: 1000mm/s (requested).
T_Hotend = 310C
T_Bed = 80C
Commanded Acceleration/Deceleration: 35.000 mm/s² (rate of velocity change)
square_corner_velocity: 25mm/s (NOT the resulting velocity value at corners)
Nozzle: 0.4mm
Layer Height: 0.1mm
Line width: 0.4mm
Volumetric flow: 40mm³/s
Lengths of straights (between corners): 65mm
Min. lengths of printing @ REAL 1000mm/s: 35mm per straight
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Nema14 spec Voron V0.1 @1.7A (OMC 14HS20-1504S) amzn.to/3kBO5tm
F623 bearings instead of toothed idlers amzn.to/2UktSgZ
WD40 specialist dry lubricant for rails amzn.to/3ziGaF4
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Slice Engineering Mosquito Magnum (5% off!): www.sliceengineering.com?p=rkjO5IsbY
VolcoMosq Block (+9mm melt) designed by Nitram: • How did I end up with ...
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Capricorn Bowden Tube amzn.to/3kBrgWE
50W heater (24V) amzn.to/2UmOIwa
PT1000 temp sensor amzn.to/3ivfdY2
Boron Nitride Paste @ heater, thermistor and heat break amzn.to/3kvPem6
- COOLING* (Part 3: Video Deep Dive)
4010 blower fans (24V) on updated toolhead amzn.to/3irazKT
optimized air ducts for part cooling with aluminium tape insulation amzn.to/3zhbuEs
External Static Cooling: 4x4020 fans (24V) amzn.to/3zcap0D
4x40mm heatsink at AB stepper motors amzn.to/3irvLAh
4010 noctua fans (5V) at heat sinks / stepper motors amzn.to/3yaZy6f
25mm axial fan (5V) for stepper drivers amzn.to/3eDf4AW
- Software / Firmware / Controllers (Part 4: Video Deep Dive)*:
Klipper Firmware: www.klipper3d.org/
Raspberry Pi Zero W (Mainsail): amzn.to/3xR9l21
Raspberry Pi 3B (Input Shaping and Octoprint): amzn.to/2UwIMAu
Alternative: Raspberry Pi4: amzn.to/3kBt4io
Simplify 3D, multi processes used: www.simplify3d.com/
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Layer one and layer two are printed slower to build up a base for crazy things to happen!
*Video description is updated: A lot of details added!*
Make sure to check it out and please comment if you have questions on this project - as usual I try to answer all of them!
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Printer basis: Voron V0.0 at vorondesign.com
247upgrades: published soon for free 👍
What fan mod are you using to get the fans on the sides like that?
@@MrSpeakerMBurns Hi Jason, these are my concepts/designs I am evaluating at the moment. As soon as I am satisfied, the mods will be explained and provided ☺️
Me: Lookin at my Ender 3
My Ender 3: “Don’t you dare…”
A million thumps up! Nice one
Really good one :)
Come on….
If if i try that with my ender 3 i swear a piston would materialize and blow out the electronics enclosure, lol.
@@jasonwoody8041 looking over to my E3………Ran away back to China
You know the printer is fast when it's playing techno as ambient background music.
And the print head itself is the speaker
when your printer is literally camellia
🌲🌲🌲🎯🌲🌲🌲
😂😂😂
I keep waiting for the drop.
"Oh, some extra filament dripped out while it was warming up. I'll just grab tha AHHHH my fingers are gone."
@SaltyBrains Dunno about that. The filament cools pretty quickly, can grab it firmly fresh out of the nozzle. Only thing that really burns is that damn heat block, even through a silicone sock it's not just hot but engineered to dump heat into things rapidly, your fingers are no exception.
@@eideticex Aye, but at those speeds it'll probably slice some fingers off before they even get to the stray filament.
Hahaha
Now THAT is the speed that 3D printers should be going. Finally hitting the speeds that inkjet printers are in the range of 👍
Thanks mate! Still a long and rough way to go, but I am confident seeing the progress ☺️
@@247printing seeing this made me giggly like I was a kid. This technology excites me so much it’s very mesmerizing to see it move like that and how fast it builds models. Especially compared to my ender3 😂 very awesome!
I am happy to see this excites you that much! I 100% share this and the best part is: Everyone can do it on a quite budget machine like the Voron Zero! I strongly believe this speed trend will slowly conquer the commercial machines also the next years!
This here is perfect example of why proper cable stress relief should be followed on all printers. Imagine how long wiring connections would last without it on this thing !
Crazy fast!! Love it. Keep up the good work!
Thanks mate! Stay tuned for more 👍
I love the that speed printing is advancing, some seriously good improvements will come because of it and it will be a good challenge for the community to innovate and collaborate too! Im currently designing my own printer to compete.
The speedprinting community is a blast - four months ago I was stuck to 70mm/s - 100mm/s!
@@247printing printing 150 with ender 3 stock pla
This is unreal! Ideal for printing templates prior to going for quality.
This is definitely to the point where that printer needs to be incased in an enclosure with a dead man's switch tied to the opening. This thing could take a hand off.. incredible engineering here
Not necessarily - those belts would still flex just enough for the drive pulley to slip, if not just stalling the steppers outright...
At worst, it will break your finger (could take off a pinky if it was a freakish accident), most likely it'd ruin the belt and/or the print...
But surely, no "assisted printing" is possible here!
That's incredible! Awesome job and 2 thumbs up to Nitram for making this possible!
Thanks a lot and absolutely: Nitram and his Volcomosq were VERY important for this!
ABS+ at insane speeds....Beautiful.
Amazing !!! i love your filming !
Thats a cool printer, I like the fan ducts on the side of the print bed
Insane!!!!!!!! Watching the spool turn!!! Want!!!!!!!!!!!
That's why I like Vorons. Not only do they look cool, they sound like techno-rock while printing t full speed!
Awesome speed Printing 👌🤩
When it started doing the base layers I was like okay that's fast what
But when it started doing the layers after that with the "infill go brr" I started laughing.
I have never thought we're gonna reach this level in such a short amount of time but here we are. You, dear sir, are a madman. Thank you.
I thank you so much for this awesome comment!
From the original cupcake cnc to speed running the benchy, my how time has flown
Awesome job!
Thank you buddy!
The bronze color is nice and the brown belts are a nice touch.
Thanks a lot! Fell in love with this ESUN ABS+ brown :)
i love this thing and scary how fast it can go. tempted to build one, have loads of ABS to use too. well done bro awesome video.
Thanks mate! Go for it - the last four months with that little guy were a blast!
Nice. Subscribing so I don't miss that video series! Looking forward to the benchies and the deep dive series!
Thanks buddy, I hope it will be up to your expectations!
Would love to see it print something else but just a rounded rectangle wall. Amazing speeds.
Incoming! I’ll be showing off some stuff with focus on quality at speed ☺️👍
@@247printing the world awaits. I personally love to watch it print PARTS for something.. With good quality and speed.. Id watch it 24 7
I made another test print yesterday evening. Printed a functional part (RPI holder for the Voron Zero). Max speed at 1000mm/s. What I have seen so far: 😳 this is real rapid prototyping. Around 15min for a full functional part (length 11cm) at 0.1mm layer height. Preview this evening on Instagram!
🤤🤤🤤🤤🤤
Don't discount 'easy prints'!
Smooth walls, consistent feed, even line-width?
Five Stars all the way!
Man that printer sure knows how to drop the beat too....
Wow that's what I've been wanting.... subscribed 🤟
I thank you very much!
That is absolutely amazing!
I went from "Yeah that's a pretty fast bottom layer!" to "What the f***********!"
I'm amazed that the ABS even had time to shrink enough to have a little lift in the front left corner. Can't wait to see what the future brings.
So nice how you describe your experience of the video! Thanks a lot, thought a lot about how to make it half way watchable ☺️
@@247printing You did well! Like... Really well. :-)
Thank you so much! ☺️
I'm pretty sure that also improves inter-layer adhesion. The filament doesn't have much time to cool down and get solid before the next layer is applied. So you can make much more sturdy and usable prints in vase mode.
It's the other way around you want the layers to cool down at least a little before the next later is applied
@@michaelcerniglia1604 But why? I would expect molten plastic to stick better to other molten plastic than to solid plastic.
That thing is flying!
Love the BTT ducks
Just wow!
Hi !
The quality seems to be very good considering this speed !
Can not wait to see more "difficult" pattern's !
Keep experimenting, it's a feast for the eyes (and ears) ! :)
On my Instagram there is a little preview of a complex design printed at that speed - full video incoming ☺️
This is what everybody thinks 3D printing looks like.
Well done!
Thanks mate! Let’s hope this will be the standard at some point or we get some revolutionary tech from the aliens 😂
@@247printing I am convinced humans have already gotten two technologies from aliens: the synthesizer and the kaleidoscope :D
Omg speeed that moves so fast!!!!
Waiting for this to be remixed into a techno edm bop
those layers are hella smooth tho... dang!
Awesome.
Holy Moly! 😮
@247printing This is fantastic, we definitely need to see the finished prints for every video you do, it feels incomplete just seeing it mid-print!
Very true! I try to do better the next video (complex model to print).
this is like the baby of inkjet and 3dprinting
Awesome work mate! Can you do a difficult shape on one of your next videos? Man! That extruded must have some good grip!
Thanks mate! Yes, I am working on some upgrades and a complex print at that speed will be done soon! Preview video on my Instagram.
Loving these videos. Can you push it to failure? 1200mm/s , 2000 mm/s, 3000mm/s. Might come out terribly - but seeing which parts are failing and where improvements need to be made to achieve those speeds would be very interesting.
Print quality at that speed was better than my printer at 25mm/s😢😢😮
-can you print me a phone case
-yeah. Just give me a few seconds.
Man your inspiring me to get one of these next year! :D
Do it! Loads of fun to work with it 🤩
@@247printing Shame the delivery estimate is February for an LDO kit. It'll be worth the wait though!
@247printing it seems the infill path may be causing some unnecessary slow-down here, where just doing a perimeter pass 3 or 4 times would be faster than the back and forth shaking. On some of your other videos as well - I think slicing needs to be overhauled for high speed printing as current slicing wasn't made with those kind of kinematics in mind.
Superb!
YOU are SUPERB :)
Insane
That’s insane but awesome
I need to see a benchy at that speed!
There are fast benchies on my channel (this printer still at original specification). A faster one on the upgrades will follow (sub 4min.)!
It will looks like a speedboat
@@dekurvajo Quality PLA Benchy (almost!) flawless: 7 minutes. Dang, so many videos incoming 😬
The speed is *mindblowing,* but then you notice how high the quality is and reality completely breaks down.
It’s quite ok for that speed - but right - it’s way better at 800mm/s 😬
Nice!
Hot end 310. Wow. Epic.
Great to see this printer printing at such high speeds. Have you tried printing other shapes and structures at the same speed?
Thank you! Please have a look at my Instagram - there I have a crazy preview on this ☺️
WOOOOOOWWW!!!!
That’s great I’m buying one without question
awesome
I thought this was sped up!! Only realised this was 100% real speed when I saw the timer!! Hatte off for you
Thanks mate!!!
Seriously, this looks almost like a time-lapse.😲
Those cooling ducts on both sides, are they somthing extra you designed? I ask because I do not seem to see them on the standard 0.1 models.
I’ve done some modding and designing here and it improved a lot since that video: Overview soon!
How to mod cooling fan both sides?? For some filament and small part print!
Amazing, I was hoping you’d show the spool feeding out and you did:)
It seems many people like to see that 😬 Thanks!
WAUW!!!! realy impressive man! i realy like the cooling fans on the side realy good idea. my printer also can get this fast but the extruder motor/hotend cant haddle it. need to step up my game.
Thanks a lot! That's truly the challenging part here... Getting motion, extrusion and cooling done :)
Wow 🔥🔥👌
YOU are wow!
Printer goes Brrrrrrr :D
I'd love to see this upgrade do the speedbenchy again, once you are done with the mods
Two of them incoming: Quality (PLA)
This will never be possible on my cr-10 v2; initially, I was skeptical, but it's a fantastic printer.
Do you have a link to the External Static Cooling Fan Ducts you have? I love them and am looking everywhere but i can't seem to find them. Thanks!
Thats a well tuned printer, congratz. I wonder what speed would it be possible with a thicker filament
Thank you very much! You mean 2.85mm filament?
Bigger diameter needs longer to heat up. I think as long as the extruder can keep up a smaller diameter is better
Looking at this, we need to find a way to make printheads lighter.
If we manage to put more components onto the frame and move less weight in the axes, higher speeds with less frame flex would be possible...
Absolutely, exactly this! I am working on radical measures for weight reduction - first tests on Instagram ☺️
Wouldn’t the circular pattern for the layers be more effective ?
Printing ABS semi-openframe with fans blowing hot air form both sides at the hotend level... at this speed. Nice.
Thanks mate! But it's actually ambient air for cooling from the sides - The print is so fast that internal stress or warping don't have a chance - the part does not cool down fast enough :)
That's insane fast
amazing！ Just it
🤓Holy smokes and I was excited about my ender 5 plus 🥴 well looking up this thing now...
So since it was ABS, I'm guessing you didn't use the side part cooling fans at all?
For the two perimeter part they were not necessary. Switching to Vase Mode shortened the layer time massively, so I turn them on with Vase Mode activated
If theres not already there should be a competition to see who van get the fasted and best quality prints on the voron printers
Competitions like you mentioned should have a quality focus - I fully agree! Have a look at the #VzSpeedCube challenge - I’ll make an entry!
@0:43 nice of your neighbour to turn on the lawnmower right when your making a 3 minute video
Haha yeah! :D
While I was watching the video, my Sidewinder X1 started crying softly in the corner...
Eh, the sidewinder is built for a different purpose. It has strengths over this printer. Speed just isn't one of them 🤣
@@gunsmoke132 true, but I can only find one: Build volume ☺️👍
I love my prusa, but daaaaaaamn - I think I gotta start planning out A voron BOM
My MK3S+ still is my favorite printer even though it’s slow - great over all experience!
Meanwhile I have to slow down to 30mm/s because stock flsun q5 does *not* have the feed speed for that.
this is totally insane
I see that it printing at a constant flowrate gives really good results. But what about printing parts that require different speeds, thus flowrates? How does it manage that high temperature with changing speeds and preassure in the hotend? I'm impressed with what you have achieved, but I see those problems with more complex parts. Have you overcome them yet?
Hey Pablo! Yes, I printed some complex parts and I’ll show a full print of this here soon! Preview on my Instagram - looks also quite crazy and the results are usable ☺️
I'm deviant enough to have been turned on by this video.
Can't wait to build my own! :)
so fckng awesome :o
You are awesome! Thanks for commenting and liking 😘
I can't wait for you to make an in-depth video on your printer upgrades, are you planning to make one any time soon?
I am working intensively on my first “real content” here: A series of four videos explaining Motion, Extrusion, Cooling and Software/Firmware in deep: “The Deep Dive to Speedprinting”.
pre-ordering videos isn't even a thing but I would totally pre-order that one.
@@Niohimself Thanks buddy, same for me: I never pre-order! Please have a look at my channel trailer - here I tried to promote "The fastest Voron Zero" in a cinematic way. Maybe you like it. My designs for the Voron Zero will be available for free as soon as they are 100% tested.
@@247printing That would truly be awesome for a beginner like me!
@@247printing please make the videos fun, not long and boring
Insane! I’ll take one please 😁
Hey Ben, I can recommend to build one: Lot of fun, a lot to learn and a great result :)
Duck pool 😊
This time: A fence ☺️👍
would be nice to see strengt test on the printed parts.
Maybe I'll ask Stefan for this :)
I wonder if you could lighten the print head by piping in compressed air in place of the fans?
👍 it’s on my concept list since I started with fast benchies and realizing that cooling is one of the most crucial bottlenecks! Thanks for sharing your ideas!
Is there a particular engineering reason why the front does not have a crossbar? I think having one would stiffen and reduce vibration.
It is surely necessary for what I am doing - the frame bends at high speeds/accelerations. I'll close it soon there. The only really big advantage here is that filming can be done very conveniently :D The voron design team surely thought a lot about this and for "normal" printing it is not that of an issue.
I don't doubt larger printers could do this, as what really holds back a printer form printing faster is the extruder itself unable to feed fast enough. Upgrading the parts like the belts for the printer head and the bed would also be needed.
Case in point, I have twin Nep-Nep 2's from Elegoo, and I run the prints at 80mm and have had zero extrusion issues or layer issues during printing (200/60) using Hatchbox PLA.
Edit: One thought also that might be an issue for bigger printers is the print bed also has to move at that speed, and if you use a Glass bed, it will be too heavy to try and make those quick snappy movements and would most likely break the belt. On this printer he has in the video, you can see the bed doesn't move and is only responsible for the Z axis movement, X and Y are only the print head moving which is much lighter.
Hi John, larger printers could do that, but you have to deal with the weight of the moved masses. Here we are on a CoreXY motion system, which is nice (but maybe not the best) for going fast. Bed slingers can be tuned to be fast, but they have their very own downsides in order to so - like you mentioned.
It can be summed up quite easily: In order to go fast(er) on any printer you have to deal with the motion-system (including the frame stiffness), the extrusion-system, the cooling-system and you have to tweak/handle the firmware/slicer accordingly. It all depends from each other. I worked on all of those aspects mentioned and this preview is a result for the tuning measures. Concerning your example on the Nep-Nep 2's: Besides the material it depends on the layer height, line width and the max speed of your print settings, if your hotend can handle the extrusion. 80mm/s at a common 0.2mm layer height and around 0.4x perimeters are no big challenge. You can calculate quite easily if your settings are out of range for the extruder/hotend you are using - unit is [mm³/s]. In this video: 0.1mm layer height, 0.4mm perimeter and at 1000mm/s results/demands a peak (~continuous) flow of 40mm³/s, which is quite the limit for my hotend combination (Mosquito Magnum with extended custom heater block). For comparison: An E3D V6 is at around 10 to 15mm³/s, where most of commercial printers range atm. Thanks a lot for watching and commenting!
@@247printing I have managed to get .05mm layer hieights (the lowest an FDM can do) and have pretty much left it at 80mm for almost anything I do now. I could sit and tweak it and probably push it to 100mm but ghosting starts to become an issue with the bed. I hope to get my hands on a Neptune X when Elegoo starts making more. The X is, of course, a copy of the Ender X and is an X/Y printer, bed never moves except for handing the Z. So with those and a tuned extruder you could probably get some crazy speeds well above any bed slinger type could dream of. Still a fun crazy vid LOL.
Here is a question I see all these lightning fast Voron printers, at what point are you moving so fast that the stepper motors get hot and what do you do about it?
Active motor cooling added ☺️👍
@@247printing Thank you! I am intrigued but the boss says the three (all with some problem) are enough.....
@@fooman2108 I cranked up the current to 1.7A here (sweetspot) and it was annoying to let them cool down before doing new tries for benchies or other stuff like this. 80C+ reached in no time… The cooling works good - 45C when 247printing 😬 you can have a glimpse on that on my channel trailer ☺️👍
I'm doing research right now for this build. Owners have complained to me that the cooling is not adequate for PLA because of the 3010 part cooling fans. It looks like your using bigger fans. Amiright? Could you talk a bit about the v0 and PLA printing? Thanks!
This will happen very soon and the upgrades I designed will be released for free. Please have a look at the video description- lots of details waiting for you ☺️
Thanks but a tall vase in case mode? So we can see the results closer after its finished.....Laurie
Hi Laurie! I was thinking about to do it maxed to Z in that video, but I wanted this first showcase to be real-time in a video not too long. I consider catching up your idea of doing a maxed out vase with more complex geometry included. Maybe it’s even watertight… but I doubt that at the moment. Thanks for the suggestion!
Just for reference: it is 3.6km/h, and the speed of sound at sea level is 340000mm/s, hope I live the day that I have to enclose my printer to reduce sonic boom. wondering the g-force current hotend experienceing......
Oh man, voron's so fast it doesn't even go Brrr
Wife at 2:00am “What in the hell is that noise!!!?!?!??”
oO, don't wake up the wife at 02:00 with machine noise :D
Whoaaaa! What container is that your chocolate filament is in?
IKEA drybox with spool holder design by armin3DP - soon released on thingiverse
Nice speed