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2014 Street Glide Bottom end chatter Compensator?
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- Опубликовано: 4 июл 2017
- Compensator?
Clutch basket?
What the heck? Please comment with help. Thanks
Harley runs strong when on the gas. Loud chatter at idle. No change with clutch in or out.
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Late comment I know , but this noise is the auto adjuster. If you’d stopped the engine and tapped on the chain at the top the adjuster makes a taping noise. Been chasing this problem in my 2010 king for a few of weeks . Bought new adjuster today and added an evo industries bump stop while I was in there. Magic, no noise
2018 street glide that started making the same putt putt noise in the primary with low RPMs. When The bike is real hot from riding here in Florida, at idle if you feather the throttle slightly you hear that putt putt putt down in the primary. When you’re up and running and have RPMs buildup rides great. I was advised not worry about it just ride it I’ve got 20,000 miles on the bike now right now.
Mine did the same.... take out the compensating bolt and clean it up real well and clean the threads inside and then red Loctite and re-torque it to 100lbs...back it off and then torque it to 170 ft.lbs...sounded exactly like mine....problem fixed....
Michael Barstad i will try that next time i take it apart.
My 09 ultra classic doing same thing, thanks for video
If you watch from 34 sec to 46 sec and listen to the sound you will see the adjuster move in sync with the sound - this leads me to think it either is the chain or the adjuster - there was a service bulletin put out in late 2013 for an addition of 2 spacers ( p/n 10300021 ) service bulletin # M-1352 - this affects all 2014 only Dyna,Softail,Trike,and Touring --- I would put a new bolt in and the shim kit - cost around $10 for parts -- my 2014 FLHTK is doing same and will dig into it once parts arrive including the Hayden tensioner
Any newz? Bike has been w a friend since video made. He has put some miles on it over the last year. I havent had time to break it down again. To be clear i changed all parts on compensator w updated oem, And a new baker tensioner. Noise still there after install 😣 but bike finds N way better.
I put those spacers in my 15 Ultra and now when its hot in neutral sounds like a knock knock knock pull in the clutch and it stops
The springs behind the compensates have no pressure on them since the bike is idling once the bike starts moving the springs build pressure and the noise goes away every thing 2014 and up experience this noise at idle
So is this a bad thing??
@@kevinmiller6183 compensator is a weak point on the Harley if you don’t have high horsepower and you’re running stock stage one or stage two and you ride hard then I would change the compensator Screamin Eagle is good but dark horse is best! Hope this helps!👍💯🇺🇸😎
I put a dark horse on my last bike and man are the ever noisy
It did solve my stone rattling sound and when I shut off the bike I had no clunk
When I say noisy it only makes noise if you get to 2500 rpm; anything below that and it rattles like crazy, got used to it though, dark horse did solve all my issues. No reason to run a bike below 2500 in my opinion anyway
Pull inner prymary tighten shifter lever on trans. This problem drove me nuts. Was fixing to go inside trans. Got that far and found the problem.
Sold the bike 1 month ago. Purchased it w 36k miles and had 50k when it went to a new home. Never found the problem and it's still running like a beast. Didn't seem to be an issue mechanically. Thanks for viewing my video.
My 2016 Street Glide has been making that same noise for 3 years, figure it out yet?
I have a ‘15 street glide with the same noise, but has anyone had like a bearing whine along with this??
And what did you all do to fix this noise? Any help would be greatly appreciated!! Seeing how the stealership is only trying to sell me a new transmission and clutch…
As stated I sold bike to happy owner w no complaints pre covid. My 16 now has same noise and still seems to be coming from clutch basket area or in from there. I no longer worry about it and just enjoy my bike.
Hello motorcycle friends, on my Street Glide it was the disc behind the compensator. The disc could not apply the pressure properly.
Hi 👋 i have this problem also and second time removed everything and don’t know what happened.
I will try new tensioner like someone said.
Check compensator springs, they are known to be weak and wear out (flatten).
My bike has 30k miles. My compensator had noticeable wear also. The way it feels now is way better on starts and finding neutral. Worth the money. I have stock pipes and air cleaner. I did feel like maybe it needs a tuner. I purchased from auction so history is unknown on my bike
Mine is just starting to chatter. 03 RK. Was hard downshifting a symptom too before it starts chattering? Trying to pinpoint mine before going to mechanic
@@craigsaimes4063 compensator fixed the shifting for me and essier to find neutral but if your hearing the ssme noise as my video i would look in the clutch basket area. New tensioner and compensator did not remove the noise. Hope tbis helps
@@slapaho1589 I will find out here soon.
My bike not chattering as much but when I turn off motor sounds like compensator rock back and forth best way I can describe it
@@slapaho1589 Hi, did you find out what the culprit was?
@@charlesmattina3787 clutch basket is my guess but put about 20k more on bike b4 i sold it. I wouldnt worry about it as my newer bike is making same sound now
Hello, did you finally find the problem? because I have the same problem on my Flhtc 96pc 2010 thank you.
I have ridden HD for 40 years. Each one had its own rattles and knocks. Who gives a shit. It does not hurt a thing. When you change your primary oil and do your chain inspection, if you don't see any rubbing or wear marks there is not a problem. If you want a silky silent ride, buy a Tesla.
did u ever find out what the noise was!??? mine doing same thing!
Ive got the same noise on the my '14 Street Glide. I was thinking it might be the chain slapping the inside of the primary, but I can see from your video thats not the case. Mine isn't quite as bad, but I'm sure it will get there with time. Ive only got 9400 miles on it. I tried something I read online, where I took it out and ran it up to about 4500 rpm in first gear, then let go and let it coast back down to around 1000. I did it about 10 times and it seemed to help short term.
Clutch hub bearing, high wear !!
it could be your cluth disck rocking from front to back inside the clutch basket. if there is any amount of freeplay you will get that chatter
I just recenctly sold bike w 50k on it and noise never seemed to stop or make anything not work. I would say its in the basket somewhere because i did all new tensioner and compensator (complete kit) never fixed problem as states b4.
@@slapaho1589 i get what your saying. Harleys do make funny noises. a for me i just bought a heritage softail 2003 with 27,414 on it one owner garage kept stage 2 scraeming eaglr kit. bike run great. smooth ride down the highway
@@outspoken5326 it was a 2nd bike i purchased for a friend. He put all the miles on it and rode it hard so like i said i assume its no big deal of a noise to hear. Had it when purchased w 30k miles and same when i sold at 50k miles.
anbody ?! What was the Problem?
Mine is making the same noise. 2016 street glide 103 engine, 72,000 mile, figure it out yet? Let me know please.
Does yours clunk by the clutch pack when you shut it off?
@@PAULY-Pyes
@paulbouverette503
I would assume it's your compensator. The springs go bad. The sound usually travels to the clutch basket. When my compensator went bad, it took out some teeth on my starter clutch too. I replaced both and it's all good now.
Best to buy a hot bikes tentioner vs a Hayden, I hear of the Hayden’s being made cheaply now and failing in the first 2000 miles
I did this video when I took it apart to replace everything. Once done the only change was finding N while running. Pretty sure I did baker tensioner. Installed and adjusted correctly.
Never touched clutch or basket.
Maybe the clutch bearing
Was not the compensator or the torch od the bolt. It was coming from the basket or farther in from there. All new parts on compensator just made it find neutral easier
Maybe it's the flattened out compensator springs
I gotta vibration noice at 2800 rpm but nothing until that
Mine sounds exactly like this. I changed the compensator with the new SE kit which was exactly the same as OEM on 14 SG. Some wear on my old one but not a lot. New one makes bike run better but I'm still getting this noise once bike warms up.
I thought someone would know what causes this. Loose chain? Maybe an aftermarket chain adjuster?
Geoff Hahn thanks for your input. I installed the baker attitude man adjuster when i did the se comp. It didnt change the noise :(
Just out of curiosity, what does your bike idle at? Mine is about 900 and it was suggested I up it to 1050, which is the point where it no longer chatters.
Geoff Hahn , i will find out idle for u soon. I won this bike on ebay from a shotty dealership. When i went to pick it up i seen another bike same as mine all apart. It had black rineharts and some othr arlen ness acc. The bike i have now has spray paint where it looks like someone was painting the exhaust and didnt remove it. My bike also has a few arlen ness acc. As well. I think maybe i should get tune check. Maybe there was some motor mods or programmers at one time.
Mine makes the same noise but only when it’s at operating temperature; I’m going to purchase a Oregon Hot Bikes tensioner, install and see if the noise stops
@@paulbouverette503did this fix noise? I have 14 dyna and has same noise
look at the chain tensioner it jumps the spikes.
Not tensioner. Made video then changed it all as stated tensioner, compensator, ect.. same sound. It's behind clutch basket
Bearing ???
scrap it, and get a mule. the factory sends their shit bikes out to be returned to the dealerships for updated parts. $$$$$$ compensator, shoes, chain. same old story, look at the twin-cam, cam chain adjusters, crappy shocks that leak, cam bearings that take a shit and cause all kinds of problems, seats that you can't go more than 50 miles in and you need a back operation, the list goes on. a mule the 4 legged animals, a saddle, blanket, and harness-rains cost less, last longer. it will go where an HD can't trails, water, snow, mud, sand. less maintenance, and never breaks down or goes out of style. they have been making the same model for years, a proven reliable means of transportation. and if you get hungry you can eat it.
What ended up being the culprit?
what was the reason. My street glide makes the same noise
Check the inner primary bearing and race.
@@cristande it was the Compensator
...Spline shaft on the drive pulley
?... Mine went... not a good noise...
Same noise as yours? I changed all the compensater parts and stator hub. Noise still the same ☹
Was it the compensator? Weak spring pack letting it rattle back and forth on idle and startup?
New oem updated compensator and baker tensioner. Still sound same
@@slapaho1589 Did you ever find out what it was? I've seen other videos like this that said it was from a bad bearing behind the clutch on the main shaft.
That sounds like exactly what it is I have the same thing very common I have the '05 compensator spring packs are garbage
1960's junk in a 2020 world. I should know i have one.
Why in the hell is Harley Davidson still using a chain primary drive? Here in 2018 there is no need for that type of primary drive. A gear drive would eliminate most of the left side of the bike issues in Harley-Davidson’s and they could still use the current primary cover for appearances.
Frank Wood my 14 sg is still loaned to a buddie as i ride my 16. We were riding together last week and i changed the oil for the first time since this video was shot. Noise has gotn a little worse since he had it and i seem to hear it from the clutch basket side not the compensator side of primary. All is still good w bike with the couple thousand miles he has added. I will break it down in winter and figgure this out.
Frank Wood chains are quieter. Same reason for chain on cams. Harleys are inherently noisey and to be epa compliant, hush mode employed. What about a belt drive?? They scream loudly.
was it the compensator spring washers chattering cause the nut backed out. just wondering if that was the problem
I made sure all compensator parts were new oem and did the torque as required. I would say no to compensator or springs
Slap aho. Did you get this fixed? My 2016 ROad Glide is making the same noise.
No change. Bike has lot more miles but sounds and rides same. Guessing not a big worry.
I just fixed a very similar loose primary chain noise on my 17 M8 with the auto adjuster...I replaced the stock chain tensioner with the Hayden M6-BT17-M8 (others available for other models). Noise gone... highly recommended
TheAagaards , i changed out my adjuster to the baker man adjuster. Noise still there. Im guessing somewhere in clutch basket like bearing or something
Slap aho mine sounded the same- you need the Hayden adjuster as it uses a spring system....not a fixed or ratchet...
TheAagaards i disagree. If it was the tensioner the noise would be constant at idle and not be afected by temperature. Noise comes out after bike warm. First few minutes it sounds like a million bucks.
Slap aho yes - it sounds like a million bucks at start up because the idle is higher- as I said - this is exactly the problem I had- fixed with the Constant Spring of the Hayden....
@@TheAagaards i havent taken it apart since the video shoot. Still running the same w no issues. Im still guessing something w clutch basket
Inner primary bearing
I replaced inner primary bearing and race, also the clutch hub and pilot bearing, replaced the tensioner, and less then a year later the noise is back. I hear it after bike is warm, off, and pushing the bike while in neutral.
@@badmatt4227
Main drive gear bearing. Pull the primary and feel it in the out put. Sounds travel. Mechanics Stethoscope is a good tool for nailing down sounds and vibrations. You could also give that a whirl. I had to completely go thru a primary, clutch basket, compensator, hayden spring tensione👍, trans bearings, including main output. The auto tensioner from harley did all the beatings in. My main output grumbled when rolling in neutral.
@@westcoast3595 Two days ago, I removed the primary. The Primary Mainshaft Bearing Race, also called the Inner Primary Bearing Race appears to have some micro-spalling. But, nothing concerning. The compensator looks good.
The clutch basket is original. However, the clutch hub is new.
The tensioner: I will never use a Hayden, stock is better, and as a last resort, I would use Baker.
@@badmatt4227
How does the drive pulley feel?
@@westcoast3595 The drive pulley on the main shaft feels fine.
Rotated the main shaft and although stiff, it is smooth.
I have a 08 bagger with SE compensator making this same sound when I first start the bike then when it warms up the sound gose away .oh and when I got the bike at a auction with no wire harness so I put in a aftermarket wire harness with s&s carb . But bike runs great just has a annoying low idle chatter . Any thoughts any one .
Just my thoughts but I think it’s the compensator! 👍💯🇺🇸
Do you remember where you got a aftermarket harness ? I bought an electra glide amd it turns out mice had made a home in the fairing, at some point, chewed up a bunch of wires. How disappointing that was when I pulled the front fairing off. It would be real nice if i could jist buy a new harness and plug it all right in.
Thanks
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 try NVS Audio in Linden NJ ask for Carlos I think he can help you! 👍💯🇺🇸😎
@@whatyoumakeofit6635 what years the bike. Namz makes a after market harness
@@glencross4461 ya turns out it was the compensator
Well what was the fix bro ?
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Did you find out what it was? Mine has started the exact same thing.
I just replaced the compensator/springs/ and also the rotor for stator. My rotor had wear along with springs. If you are having any trouble finding neutral at stop then it could be compensator. After all said and done it seems way better but i can still hear something. Maybe i need louder pipes
Slap aho I have a really hard time finding neutral. Does it still make that hick up or stuttering after you replaced those parts? I called the shop I always go to. I'm taking it in tomorrow, but they said by my description it could be an off tune.... I don't know. I'm running pipes and air cleaner modifications with a FP3 tuner. We shall see.
Did you change the compensator retainer or the sprocket too
I'm getting the same noise in my 01 Ultra Classic
Joe Cady changed everything but the clutch basket
How did u fix that noise
Sold it w 10k more miles. Noise was never an issue mechanically.
Running that dry can’t be good
Compensator?
No
Buy the Hayden- I bet it goes away...
TheAagaards : nah, stock adjuster was fine and baker is new. Bike once warmed up sounds bad w either
I think its the tensioner , watch the tensioner between 0:30 and 0:40 .. the tensioner is compressing every time the noise hits
I know Slap Aho said he'd placed his tensioner though
No, sorry its not the tensioner. My oem was fine b4 i changed and the new one was not self adjusting. Noise is from the clutch basket area. Thanks for watching though and trying to help. Noise seemed to get louder the warmer the bike got. Noise was gone when you hit the throttle
@@slapaho1589 well there's some correlation between the noise and the tensioner .. just look at the video you posted and the timestamp. If you want to ignore it that's fine, but i'll tell you every time it compresses its making the noise. Might not necessarily be the tensioner itself but theres an indication.
@@slapaho1589 have you fix it? I have the saim problem i change all clutch bearing, tensioner, compensator kit and spring plaid all. But still have this nois sounds like stones in Primary if i hit the throttle nois goo
Those two tensioners don't compensate with a spring like the Hayden....can you hear the sound above idle?
TheAagaards on the gas sound is gone. Let off and you hear it. Usually doesnt make a sound til motor warm.
Slap aho - that is the exact problem I had- spend the $125 bucks on the Hayden and you'll solve it...
Did you ever fix this problem?
No sold the bike w 20k more miles and problem was no big deal. Check your clutch basket and clutches.
Bone dry..
Buy an Indian next time
You broke loser