I agree with your final decision to stick with buffing/polishing , after all it is a mater of what is more practical , we used to use vibratory service for small welded parts to remove the burrs and weld spatters, for that type of jobs it worked wonderfully . BTW, I would still keep that CV-2001 unit and experiment with it. great video .
Can I suggest that part of the problem is the fact that your medium is contaminated. I would also suggest that there was probably too many items in the machine therefore they couldn't move freely hence spots that still had tarnish.
Have you ever tried ultrasonic baths for cleaning or (pre)polishing purposes? Looks like the principle is just the same on this machine, but on a much bigger scale than ultrasonic cleaning
I bought a building that is keeping me busy and my wife is expecting and not feeling very well. Things are getting better though, and I should be back to posting videos soon. Thank you for your concern. Best regards, Art
@@TheBrassandWoodwindShop thanks for your reply. I wish you all well. And when the time is right I will enjoy seeing you back working instrument wonders. As just a musician I have learnt a lot from your channel. Thanks and best wishes.
Well i have done the same experiment in three different ways: 1-vibrate tembler (same as you have)...result is very bad and media just stick inside the hinge of the keys 2-rotate tembles (use water and a drop of soap) media is from steel...result is works great on un lacquered brass and solid silver or nickel/silver 3-ultra sonic...result is very good and for silver plated keys you can add the silver dip solution 4-hand buff...still the best option regardless the time consumption (i just use the ultrasonic to clean the buffing compound after buffing them)
I have a slightly smaller version that I use to polish spent brass casings prior to reloading. It works great for its intended purpose but, based on your experiment, it's not great for cleaning keys. It will likely be quicker, easier, and produce a better result to just do it on the buffing wheel.
I think selling it is a good idea. From my understanding, vibe cleaners work best on parts that are dimensionally simple, and uniform, like cubes, spheres, small cylinders, etc. Instrument pieces are just too complex to be in there together, and would get hooked on each other, or, like you witnessed, stuck.
use fresh media when u do this test usually they work good with coins and shell casings i find when metal detecting the woods But with larger instrument components it may not work as good as a buffer but for your smaller items that cant be buffed probally would shine up good
The only way for this to be worth your while is if you have a huge list of tasks to accomplish at a given day, and this frees your hand until the next day. But you would need to always use fresh media and have a much larger quantity. So I 100% agree that selling is the best option
I agree with your final decision to stick with buffing/polishing , after all it is a mater of what is more practical , we used to use vibratory service for small welded parts to remove the burrs and weld spatters, for that type of jobs it worked wonderfully . BTW, I would still keep that CV-2001 unit and experiment with it. great video .
Can I suggest that part of the problem is the fact that your medium is contaminated. I would also suggest that there was probably too many items in the machine therefore they couldn't move freely hence spots that still had tarnish.
Have you ever tried ultrasonic baths for cleaning or (pre)polishing purposes? Looks like the principle is just the same on this machine, but on a much bigger scale than ultrasonic cleaning
I have not seen you posting recently, I hope all is well. I look forward to seeing your next instrument miracles. Best wishes.
I bought a building that is keeping me busy and my wife is expecting and not feeling very well. Things are getting better though, and I should be back to posting videos soon.
Thank you for your concern.
Best regards,
Art
@@TheBrassandWoodwindShop thanks for your reply. I wish you all well. And when the time is right I will enjoy seeing you back working instrument wonders. As just a musician I have learnt a lot from your channel. Thanks and best wishes.
Thanks for breaking that down for us, interesting video!
There are some needles intead of sand like medium that make a better job?
Well i have done the same experiment in three different ways:
1-vibrate tembler (same as you have)...result is very bad and media just stick inside the hinge of the keys
2-rotate tembles (use water and a drop of soap) media is from steel...result is works great on un lacquered brass and solid silver or nickel/silver
3-ultra sonic...result is very good and for silver plated keys you can add the silver dip solution
4-hand buff...still the best option regardless the time consumption (i just use the ultrasonic to clean the buffing compound after buffing them)
Well...
Thats make them 4 ways😂
how much for the tumbler?
This is exciting!
I have a slightly smaller version that I use to polish spent brass casings prior to reloading. It works great for its intended purpose but, based on your experiment, it's not great for cleaning keys. It will likely be quicker, easier, and produce a better result to just do it on the buffing wheel.
I think selling it is a good idea. From my understanding, vibe cleaners work best on parts that are dimensionally simple, and uniform, like cubes, spheres, small cylinders, etc. Instrument pieces are just too complex to be in there together, and would get hooked on each other, or, like you witnessed, stuck.
use fresh media when u do this test usually they work good with coins and shell casings i find when metal detecting the woods
But with larger instrument components it may not work as good as a buffer but for your smaller items that cant be buffed probally would shine up good
The only way for this to be worth your while is if you have a huge list of tasks to accomplish at a given day, and this frees your hand until the next day.
But you would need to always use fresh media and have a much larger quantity. So I 100% agree that selling is the best option
add water