We dont want or need immigration legal or otherwise why doesn't the government help Brits become more skilled, with training, enterprise, apprenticeship etc why should we need to outsource it
Most of the jobs being taken by non Brits don't require training just that these particular companies are being encouraged not to employ Brits and want to bully their low paid employees and work them into the ground.
I will vote Reform this time. They aren’t the solution but I’ll never vote for the Uniparty (Labour/Tories) again. And I won’t be fearmonged into not voting Reform at the threat of getting Starmer. If Tories care about it that much then they should stand down.
@dannotdanny. REFORM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION LIBERS ARE NO DIFFERENT TO THE OTHER TWO.. ALTHOUGH A DICTATORSHIP WOULDNT BE AMISS. WE HAVE GOT TO THE STAGE NOW,WHERE THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAR TOO MUCH INFLUENCE IN THINGS THAT ARE NONEE OFTHEIR BUSINESS.TOO MANY NOSEY PARKERS AND DO GOODERS.
Closed borders? Especially to the nurses and doctors who keep the NHS going? The bankers who keep the City going? The engineers who keep the car industry going? The fruit-pickers who keep the farms going? The students who keep the universities going? Etc etc etc Why do you think that immigration increased after Brexit?
The economy will collapse, it takes 7 years to turn it round and train all the doctors we need you know you people have really been manipulated and need to grow a brain
@@briankeniry219 the experience of Brexit is that if you vote for pie-in-the-sky, you end up being covered in shite. Brexit has ensured that Britain will soon be poorer than Poland.
The consevative manifesto on immigration since 2010 has not been followed. Why would anyone believe that they would adhere to the result of a referendum that they do not agree with. They appointed May as PM after the Brexit referendum and look how well that turned out.
Both of them, they live on another planet. He is just saying what he thinks he should be saying but suffers none of the effects in his neighbourhood. As for her, sheltered lifestyle and wouldn't cope in the real world on average pay or using the NHS.
Never forget that once you have alienated people you never win them back. I stopped voting Tory 20 years ago and now the trend is growing amongst traditional Tory voters not only those who lent their vote in 2019 because of Brexit and the Red Wall. Forget the stats and focus on human emotions: once trust is broken, it´s gone.
So she's saying we are so addicted to migration it's impossible to stop it? Of course there would need to be a discussion had around how to detox the country but unfortunatley we are not even having this discussion. Like all addictions we need to admit there there is a problem then have a plan, unfortunatley the goverment are refusing to even acknowledge there's an issue.
I know I thing if we ever have a Referendum on immigration it would be even bigger result than the brexit vote that for sure it would shock the establishment to the core
Not liking the outcome and not getting it aren’t the same thing. The referendum was leave or remain, no more, no less. We left. They delivered. Anything beyond that is only what you might have wanted to happen as a result - but if it wasn’t on the ballot it was all optional or imaginary.
REFORM UK is the only sesible option when you consder that it is the 2 major, traditional between them have virtually destroyed our once great nation over the last few decades. We certainly don't deserve several years HARD LABOUR!
Having lived abroad for 5 years and having moved back almost 2 years ago the depreciation and degradation of this country is absolutely shocking..We have lost our way. Multiculturism does not work .Ghettos are being created everywhere, ITS DEVASTATING. local communities are being crushed , i feel frightened and alienated in my own country..i would not dream of going into the city in the evenings..
Why would anyone? It's a vote for the establishment and the Billionaire class isn't it Matt Who owns GBN of why an offshore billionaire who wants to further the fossil industry what a surprise
The Tories made big bold offers in 2019. They never kept their promises, what makes people think that they would keep to the new promises again. They won’t.
I do not understand this “not given us Brexit” nonsense. We have left the EU, that was the ONLY certain result of it. You may have believed unsubstantiated promises that were made about what MIGHT happen after that or you may have projected your own wishes, hopes, fantasies or whatever else onto that result, but that isn’t the same thing AT ALL. You got what you voted for, no more no less.
@@robertanthonynolan9697 No. We left the EU . That is an incontrovertible, undeniable historical fact. Johnson said he’d “get Brexit done” not that he’d get the version that had all your favourite features. You may not like the terms and conditions on which we left but that is a different matter. Pretending otherwise is merely denying the obvious. We have left - what you see is what you get, it will not change because that would require renegotiation and that is not going to happen because there is no incentive for the EU to do that.
@@robertanthonynolan9697 Aw, come on, be serious - that whole “just walk away” stuff was always just bravado without substance. International relations doesn’t work like that and it never has - at least not unless you’re North Korea. Everything you do internationally has to be negotiated and once it’s negotiated you are committed to it. Isn’t that a compromise of sovereignty? Yes, of course it is - every international agreement that every country makes compromises its sovereignty to some degree, that’s an inescapable fact of life. If you break the agreements then all of your other agreements are at risk because you have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted to keep your word - and if no one trusts you to keep your word, what value do your law, your currency or your military alliances have? So we can’t possibly import 40% of our food from somewhere without having a negotiated agreement, that’s just beyond daft, and you cannot sit down to a negotiation threatening to revoke all the agreements if you don’t get your way - it’s just not a credible position. Your opposite number can just say “Ok, until you change your mind on that, you remain bound by all the agreements you have already committed to, let us know when you’d like an adult discussion”. Now what? WTO terms? No, the WTO will tell you that you already have an agreement so you can’t do that unless you can demonstrate that the EU is abusing the terms, which it currently isn’t - the WTO tries to make sure governments meet their commitments, it doesn’t help them to break them. There is no one in the U.K. that has a strategy to deliver what you seem to imagine is possible, because there is no such strategy and it really isn’t possible. You need to try to get used to that - this is as good as it gets.
I was in Swindon the other day, stopped by the large Tesco. I was shocked at how I, a white man, was the minority face. Everyone was brown. As i drove out of town on the east side, I couldn't miss the gigantic Amazon building which almost blocked out the sun.
Matt you speak my language…… no more migration. Low skill workers take out more than they put into the system. I have first hand experience of this from working in the care sector over 13 years ago. So I can only assume the problem has got worse.
For me netzero is a massive danger to us that won’t be realised until we start to et rid of petrol,diesel, gas and oil . 80% of our energy lost but with no provision to make quadruple our electo electrify everything. This is mega and not feasible,yet we are down the road already.
The reality is that Sunak is an unelected, un-Conservative interloper, and I like most Reform UK supporters won't vote for him under ANY circumstances whatsoever...
The British public has voted for lower immigration for decades. But the fact is the Treasury is obsessed with growing GDP and the easiest way to manipulate growth is to import more spenders. Never mind that each individual gets poorer year on year. After voting Tory for forty years I’m am incandessant with fury at the level of incompetence. We need to provoke a seismic shift in politics asap.
Nobody is saying we don’t want people from overseas working in the NHS. But we are saying we don’t want them bringing many thousands of potential patients here along with them.
I am voting for Reform because I lost faith in both parties politicians and most definitely illegal immigrants the housing crisis on the NHS waiting list We are broken Sue Notaro
Labour are far left and tories are far left all you have to look at is how many tories have gone to labour witch says to me there not conservative so i,v voting reform , 1 there not politicians but understand politics so will run country like a business, 2 leave echr , 3 bring legal migration and illegal down , scrap net zero . The reason why people arnt having children is because of the cost people are struggling themselves so cant offord to have a family and who wants to bring a child up in britain with all sexual offenders only getting a few years and back out on the streets to do it again police dont do anything to protect the british natives
It is now too late. Whatever the Prime Minister could promise now could not be delivered before the referendum. If it were promised in a manifesto, we all know that as soon as the election is over, they would probably conveniently forget it.
Immigration numbers are manipulated by the far right according to members at the conservative club. Many of them who are small businesses owners who are struggling to find good employees, especially in the trade sector. Also, many home owners have several homes unoccupied because they can’t get tenants who could compete with high inflation and high interest rates. Immigration system isn’t perfect but it can be improved.
I'll explain, but it may not be the explanation you were asking for. I once briefly worked for a big company (12 years ago now) owned by a Sunday Times Richlister, and a personal friend of David Cameron (should set the scene) and I was an English man surrounded by a 200 or so strong workforce who where all Eastern European except for myself and nine others. I got to know many of them quite well, one of which I am still in touch with today, along with the system of hiring. The likes of myself were being paid (for arguments sake as I can't recall the figure) £8 an hour. The Eastern Europeans were also paid £8 an hour with an interesting caveat.. £4 was being paid by the agency that they were recruited through, and the company got 50% toward their hiring costs from the GOVT. So, a Lithuanian would actually cost the company £2 an hour. So, as you can see, it is much better value to hire x4 Eastern Europeans than one English man. Now, these Eastern Europeans would need to live somewhere too.. you would see between 6 and 10 of them renting a single house (some but not all were also owned by the Sunday Times Richlister) and this enabled them to split living costs and put away a ton of money. You may be wondering what type of person would do this? They were all University Educated, many professionals who came to the UK with a 2 - 3 year plan were, because of the huge difference in exchange rates, working here for a couple of years on rubbish money would see them return home and either buy a house or business premises to start work from OUTRIGHT. I quickly realised that when we hear that "foreign workers are great for the economy" what we really mean is they are good for billionaires who want even more money, good for the foreigners who want to go home and live like Kings by aged 25, good for whoever is buying the cheap tat that they are producing / selling. The looser is the working class English man. Regards to other LL grumbles.. the cost of renting is now ridiculous, many only want foreigners and also "DSS" because this way, the taxpayer funded benefits will pay them, guaranteed, at ridiculous prices vs say a working class Englishman who couldn't afford the property.
I've taken the following directly, word for word, from the Conservative manifesto and data from the Office for National statistics: 2010 Immigration 604,000, emigration 339,000, net migration 256,000 Conservative manifesto: "We will take steps to take net migration back to the levels of the 1990s - tens of thousands a year, not hundreds of thousands." 2015 Immigration 664,000, emigration 334,000, net migration 329,000 Conservative manifesto: "Our commitment to you: keep our ambition of delivering annual net migration in the tens of thousands, not the hundreds of thousands" "We will tackle people trafficking and exploitation. We will ease pressure on public services and your local community. We will protect British values and our way of life. We will promote integration and British values" 2017 Immigration 644,000, emigration 395,000, net migration 249,000 Conservative manifesto: "We will reduce and control immigration." "But with annual net migration standing at 273,000, immigration to Britain is still too high. It is our objective to reduce immigration to sustainable levels, by which we mean annual net migration in the tens of thousands, rather than the hundreds of thousands we have seen over the last two decades". 2019 Immigration 772,000, emigration 553,000, net migration 219,000 Conservative manifesto: "There will be fewer lower-skilled migrants and overall numbers will come down. And we will ensure that the British people are always in control." 2022: Immigration 1,234,000, emigration 489,000, net migration 745,000. 2023: Immigration 1,405,000. Keep in mind that those entering are usually foreign and those leaving are often British - you can see why 'replacement theory' has so much traction We also know that only 15% come in on 'skilled' work visas, and 85% have no job and come in as dependents etc. They are a net drain on the economy, going into low paid jobs and take more out of the system than they put in. This demolishes the 'skilled workers argument'. Even most of those who do come in on 'skilled workers' visa, turn out not to be skilled but end up in low paying jobs. Often using fraudulent certificates of qualification, (there's a thriving business in fraudulent nursing qualification from Nigeria). One should also mention the elephant in the room. 42% of the 10 million foreign born residents in this country came in the last decade. Since New labour came to power 26 years ago we have had more immigration into this country than the previous 2,000 years combined! (I'm not saying Labour and LibDems would any better, I'm just pointing out why voting for any of the main parties will do nothing to stop the flow). The actions of all political parties have blatantly undermined democracy. If you vote for any of the main parties you will get more of the same - promise one thing and do the opposite - how many times do you have to be betrayed before you realise what they are doing?
This would be totally irrational though.... People voting reform are ignoring demographic realties that there are a lot of old people in this country that will need to be cared for and looked after in old age. Not only that, we need more tax revenue from a working age population. If you stopped all immigration into Britain with a referendum, once again you're shafting young people, who will have pick up the tax bill. How do baby boomers think this is fair? House prices are ridiculous, wages are stagnant, young people have to pay university tuition of 27k and now because you don't like immigrants you want a referendum on that whilst you'll be picking up a triple lock pension in your old age... very selfish
@@davebrown5539 Thats what I'm eluding to. I'm fully aware I'm going to be old one day. I would like to be cared for, I would like to have good doctors. I would like good engineers paying into the tax revenue to fund public services and pensions. We need immigration for these reasons, its irrational to say you can have millions of dependent baby boomers and say no more immigrants tomorrow.
Pointing the finger in the wrong direction. Division does not help. Not funding the lives of people who are not British nationals might be a good start.
@@integinteg9222 people and politicians scaremongering over immigration are the divisive ones. these 'non british nationals' are funding our public spending. They are working age, going and doing jobs british people are either too lazy to do or didn't study for like science, health service and maths based jobs.
@@integinteg9222 people clambering for populist politicians to stop immigration are the divisive ones. These 'non British nationals' are the people paying into our tax system. How do you suppose the treasury counters the shortfall in taxes that will happen if we cut immigration by 600k? Who will work in the hospitals, care homes, engineering firms, software development?
We dont want or need immigration legal or otherwise why doesn't the government help Brits become more skilled, with training, enterprise, apprenticeship etc why should we need to outsource it
Most of the jobs being taken by non Brits don't require training just that these particular companies are being encouraged not to employ Brits and want to bully their low paid employees and work them into the ground.
Absolutely correct we need to invest in our our people not rely on cheap foreign labour we always used to
I will vote Reform this time. They aren’t the solution but I’ll never vote for the Uniparty (Labour/Tories) again.
And I won’t be fearmonged into not voting Reform at the threat of getting Starmer. If Tories care about it that much then they should stand down.
Well said, no matter what I'm voting reform!
very well said.
@dannotdanny. REFORM IS THE ONLY SOLUTION LIBERS ARE NO DIFFERENT TO THE OTHER TWO.. ALTHOUGH A DICTATORSHIP WOULDNT BE AMISS. WE HAVE GOT TO THE STAGE NOW,WHERE THERE ARE FAR TOO MANY PEOPLE WHO HAVE FAR TOO MUCH INFLUENCE IN THINGS THAT ARE NONEE OFTHEIR BUSINESS.TOO MANY NOSEY PARKERS AND DO GOODERS.
We don’t need a referendum! We do need our borders close now … 40 years too late though 😳
Closed borders? Especially to the nurses and doctors who keep the NHS going? The bankers who keep the City going? The engineers who keep the car industry going? The fruit-pickers who keep the farms going? The students who keep the universities going? Etc etc etc
Why do you think that immigration increased after Brexit?
@@charlesbruggmann7909 if you listen to the interview he clearly said it wasn't those people that you refer to.
The experience of brexit is that the elites, in parliament and in the institutions, don't like to be contradicted and will sabotage any progress.
The economy will collapse, it takes 7 years to turn it round and train all the doctors we need you know you people have really been manipulated and need to grow a brain
@@briankeniry219 the experience of Brexit is that if you vote for pie-in-the-sky, you end up being covered in shite. Brexit has ensured that Britain will soon be poorer than Poland.
Me I don't think any other Party now have our beloved Country at heart anymore.
There for the billionaire class don't hold your breath, economic agenda is the usual Libertarian bolox
Exactly, there mins is on £££
The consevative manifesto on immigration since 2010 has not been followed. Why would anyone believe that they would adhere to the result of a referendum that they do not agree with. They appointed May as PM after the Brexit referendum and look how well that turned out.
Yeah, they've said one thing and done another for 14 years.
That's because Right wing economics like the bilge spouted by Matt needs loads of supply side Labour to work
me thinks the woman employs a cleaner and nanny
Both of them, they live on another planet. He is just saying what he thinks he should be saying but suffers none of the effects in his neighbourhood. As for her, sheltered lifestyle and wouldn't cope in the real world on average pay or using the NHS.
Prof matt goodwin is the best pollster by far
I want a referendum on net zero
Never forget that once you have alienated people you never win them back. I stopped voting Tory 20 years ago and now the trend is growing amongst traditional Tory voters not only those who lent their vote in 2019 because of Brexit and the Red Wall. Forget the stats and focus on human emotions: once trust is broken, it´s gone.
It’s not just the parties our main problem is the first past the post and then it’s the gullible boomers.
I absolutely agree.
well said. I stopped 30 years ago and I would never vote Tory again. I would vote labour first but never do that either.
I'm voting reform because I'm fed up living under the tyranty and corruption of the Tories.
I have shredded my Conservative membership card and will be voting REFORM.
He's right. Even a middle of the road Liberal broadcaster like yours must see that.
We have never been "reliant" on immigration
never voting Lib/Lab/Con ever again no matter what they say or do,its Reform from now on
It seems to me that the interviewer didn't want to hear what you said.
Exactly! Lol she’s pushing for the invasion to keep on…
And your mission, forget about the RNLI pumping millions in every year
Can't vote Labour or Conservatives failed the UK so reform UK is the alternative 🇬🇧👍
Is there a presenter on Times radio that doesn’t live in a bubble?
So she's saying we are so addicted to migration it's impossible to stop it? Of course there would need to be a discussion had around how to detox the country but unfortunatley we are not even having this discussion. Like all addictions we need to admit there there is a problem then have a plan, unfortunatley the goverment are refusing to even acknowledge there's an issue.
I’m not reliant on immigration
750000 legal immigrants mostly from India
I know I thing if we ever have a Referendum on immigration it would be even bigger result than the brexit vote that for sure it would shock the establishment to the core
It would definitely break the back of the NHS, cripple the financial services industry and probably destroy the economy.
Half our own workforce are in Mickey Mouse jobs. This is more than the economy.
Rosie sounds like a proper BBC lefty here, hope she’s just playing Devils Advocate here… if not I think we have our answer as to why she left GBN.
They haven’t delivered on the Brexit referendum yet!
@@Lord-Dexa That must be why Reform is doing so well then.
The tories are taking back control 😂
Not liking the outcome and not getting it aren’t the same thing. The referendum was leave or remain, no more, no less. We left. They delivered. Anything beyond that is only what you might have wanted to happen as a result - but if it wasn’t on the ballot it was all optional or imaginary.
In name only @@Lord-Dexa
@@Lord-DexaAmerica only
If you don't want your Tax money wasted by Conservative British people especially working class and Pensioners should vote Reform UK
REFORM UK is the only sesible option when you consder that it is the 2 major, traditional between them have virtually destroyed our once great nation over the last few decades. We certainly don't deserve several years HARD LABOUR!
The interviewer contradicts herself. She is probably an intelligent woman so why are her views so incoherent?
Having lived abroad for 5 years and having moved back almost 2 years ago the depreciation and degradation of this country is absolutely shocking..We have lost our way. Multiculturism does not work .Ghettos are being created everywhere, ITS DEVASTATING. local communities are being crushed , i feel frightened and alienated in my own country..i would not dream of going into the city in the evenings..
What is the point of a Referendum?
The outcome is simply ignored if the result is wrong.
Why would anyone?
It's a vote for the establishment and the Billionaire class isn't it Matt
Who owns GBN of why an offshore billionaire who wants to further the fossil industry what a surprise
It's not just migration. The Islamic threat is absolutely important. No politicians seem to be able discuss it.
The U.K. is lost so what’s the point of a referendum? 😡
The Tories made big bold offers in 2019. They never kept their promises, what makes people think that they would keep to the new promises again. They won’t.
Exactly!
Rishi is saying the right thing but he is just not delivering. People don't care about his promises. Stop the extinction of the British race.
what would be the point they have not given us brexit they will not give us the result of anything they do not want
I do not understand this “not given us Brexit” nonsense. We have left the EU, that was the ONLY certain result of it. You may have believed unsubstantiated promises that were made about what MIGHT happen after that or you may have projected your own wishes, hopes, fantasies or whatever else onto that result, but that isn’t the same thing AT ALL. You got what you voted for, no more no less.
@@davidpaterson2309 we have not left eu ref was not about leaving a bit in it was about leaving or staying
@@robertanthonynolan9697 No. We left the EU . That is an incontrovertible, undeniable historical fact. Johnson said he’d “get Brexit done” not that he’d get the version that had all your favourite features. You may not like the terms and conditions on which we left but that is a different matter. Pretending otherwise is merely denying the obvious. We have left - what you see is what you get, it will not change because that would require renegotiation and that is not going to happen because there is no incentive for the EU to do that.
@@davidpaterson2309 renegotiation not neccessary we just cancel agreements and dont renew others
@@robertanthonynolan9697 Aw, come on, be serious - that whole “just walk away” stuff was always just bravado without substance. International relations doesn’t work like that and it never has - at least not unless you’re North Korea. Everything you do internationally has to be negotiated and once it’s negotiated you are committed to it. Isn’t that a compromise of sovereignty? Yes, of course it is - every international agreement that every country makes compromises its sovereignty to some degree, that’s an inescapable fact of life. If you break the agreements then all of your other agreements are at risk because you have demonstrated that you cannot be trusted to keep your word - and if no one trusts you to keep your word, what value do your law, your currency or your military alliances have?
So we can’t possibly import 40% of our food from somewhere without having a negotiated agreement, that’s just beyond daft, and you cannot sit down to a negotiation threatening to revoke all the agreements if you don’t get your way - it’s just not a credible position. Your opposite number can just say “Ok, until you change your mind on that, you remain bound by all the agreements you have already committed to, let us know when you’d like an adult discussion”. Now what? WTO terms? No, the WTO will tell you that you already have an agreement so you can’t do that unless you can demonstrate that the EU is abusing the terms, which it currently isn’t - the WTO tries to make sure governments meet their commitments, it doesn’t help them to break them.
There is no one in the U.K. that has a strategy to deliver what you seem to imagine is possible, because there is no such strategy and it really isn’t possible. You need to try to get used to that - this is as good as it gets.
I’d like to see an ENGLISH party who’ll rule with The English Law. I’d vote for them
I was in Swindon the other day, stopped by the large Tesco. I was shocked at how I, a white man, was the minority face. Everyone was brown. As i drove out of town on the east side, I couldn't miss the gigantic Amazon building which almost blocked out the sun.
Matt Goodwin is well educated and speaks facts and truth. 👏👏👏👏
Matt you speak my language…… no more migration.
Low skill workers take out more than they put into the system. I have first hand experience of this from working in the care sector over 13 years ago. So I can only assume the problem has got worse.
For me netzero is a massive danger to us that won’t be realised until we start to et rid of petrol,diesel, gas and oil . 80% of our energy lost but with no provision to make quadruple our electo electrify everything. This is mega and not feasible,yet we are down the road already.
No more Tory or Labour for me, it’s Reform all the way now!
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Start training for NHS
Nope, the referendum on immigration was BREXIT.
ZERO VOTES! ❤
And you’re still believing these politicians 🫣 I’m gobsmacked!
The reality is that Sunak is an unelected, un-Conservative interloper, and I like most Reform UK supporters won't vote for him under ANY circumstances whatsoever...
The British public has voted for lower immigration for decades. But the fact is the Treasury is obsessed with growing GDP and the easiest way to manipulate growth is to import more spenders. Never mind that each individual gets poorer year on year. After voting Tory for forty years I’m am incandessant with fury at the level of incompetence. We need to provoke a seismic shift in politics asap.
Well said Mr Goodwin.
Unfortunately Rosie just doesn’t get it. She simply can’t grasp the point in her mind’s eye.
Nobody is saying we don’t want people from overseas working in the NHS. But we are saying we don’t want them bringing many thousands of potential patients here along with them.
I am voting for Reform because I lost faith in both parties politicians and most definitely illegal immigrants the housing crisis on the NHS waiting list We are broken Sue Notaro
Reform to secure our borders and give Nigel and his team to prove everyone of those Labour / Conservative sympathisers wrong
Labour are far left and tories are far left all you have to look at is how many tories have gone to labour witch says to me there not conservative so i,v voting reform , 1 there not politicians but understand politics so will run country like a business, 2 leave echr , 3 bring legal migration and illegal down , scrap net zero . The reason why people arnt having children is because of the cost people are struggling themselves so cant offord to have a family and who wants to bring a child up in britain with all sexual offenders only getting a few years and back out on the streets to do it again police dont do anything to protect the british natives
It is now too late. Whatever the Prime Minister could promise now could not be delivered before the referendum. If it were promised in a manifesto, we all know that as soon as the election is over, they would probably conveniently forget it.
I couldn't vote because I am EU
Member
No matter what the government promised you cannot believe them no labour either
The SDP have some great solutions to the problems of this.
No Tories, no Reformers.
And the same for net zero as well please.
Is that a referendum on whether humans have enhanced climate change?
Immigration numbers are manipulated by the far right according to members at the conservative club. Many of them who are small businesses owners who are struggling to find good employees, especially in the trade sector. Also, many home owners have several homes unoccupied because they can’t get tenants who could compete with high inflation and high interest rates. Immigration system isn’t perfect but it can be improved.
Please explain.
I'll explain, but it may not be the explanation you were asking for. I once briefly worked for a big company (12 years ago now) owned by a Sunday Times Richlister, and a personal friend of David Cameron (should set the scene) and I was an English man surrounded by a 200 or so strong workforce who where all Eastern European except for myself and nine others. I got to know many of them quite well, one of which I am still in touch with today, along with the system of hiring. The likes of myself were being paid (for arguments sake as I can't recall the figure) £8 an hour. The Eastern Europeans were also paid £8 an hour with an interesting caveat.. £4 was being paid by the agency that they were recruited through, and the company got 50% toward their hiring costs from the GOVT. So, a Lithuanian would actually cost the company £2 an hour. So, as you can see, it is much better value to hire x4 Eastern Europeans than one English man.
Now, these Eastern Europeans would need to live somewhere too.. you would see between 6 and 10 of them renting a single house (some but not all were also owned by the Sunday Times Richlister) and this enabled them to split living costs and put away a ton of money. You may be wondering what type of person would do this? They were all University Educated, many professionals who came to the UK with a 2 - 3 year plan were, because of the huge difference in exchange rates, working here for a couple of years on rubbish money would see them return home and either buy a house or business premises to start work from OUTRIGHT.
I quickly realised that when we hear that "foreign workers are great for the economy" what we really mean is they are good for billionaires who want even more money, good for the foreigners who want to go home and live like Kings by aged 25, good for whoever is buying the cheap tat that they are producing / selling.
The looser is the working class English man.
Regards to other LL grumbles.. the cost of renting is now ridiculous, many only want foreigners and also "DSS" because this way, the taxpayer funded benefits will pay them, guaranteed, at ridiculous prices vs say a working class Englishman who couldn't afford the property.
@@Zaphod-ef9yz Thank you
GB 'News' and Legatum! Dwell on that for a moment.
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Huh?
@@FiveLiver Legatum's Christopher Chandler is effectively the owner of GB 'News'.
@@mikebarton Paul Marshal?
And Paul Marshall funds them. Yes - the connections are all there.
@@FiveLiver More containment. Look into who funds them.
I've taken the following directly, word for word, from the Conservative manifesto and data from the Office for National statistics:
2010 Immigration 604,000, emigration 339,000, net migration 256,000
Conservative manifesto: "We will take steps to take net migration back to the levels of the 1990s - tens of thousands a year, not hundreds of thousands."
2015 Immigration 664,000, emigration 334,000, net migration 329,000
Conservative manifesto: "Our commitment to you: keep our ambition of delivering annual net migration in the tens of thousands, not the hundreds of thousands" "We will tackle people trafficking and exploitation. We will ease pressure on public services and your local community. We will protect British values and our way of life. We will promote integration and British values"
2017 Immigration 644,000, emigration 395,000, net migration 249,000
Conservative manifesto: "We will reduce and control immigration." "But with annual net migration standing at 273,000, immigration to Britain is still too high. It is our objective to reduce immigration to sustainable levels, by which we mean annual net migration in the tens of thousands, rather than the hundreds of thousands we have seen over the last two decades".
2019 Immigration 772,000, emigration 553,000, net migration 219,000
Conservative manifesto: "There will be fewer lower-skilled migrants and overall numbers will come down. And we will ensure that the British people are always in control."
2022: Immigration 1,234,000, emigration 489,000, net migration 745,000.
2023: Immigration 1,405,000.
Keep in mind that those entering are usually foreign and those leaving are often British - you can see why 'replacement theory' has so much traction
We also know that only 15% come in on 'skilled' work visas, and 85% have no job and come in as dependents etc. They are a net drain on the economy, going into low paid jobs and take more out of the system than they put in. This demolishes the 'skilled workers argument'. Even most of those who do come in on 'skilled workers' visa, turn out not to be skilled but end up in low paying jobs. Often using fraudulent certificates of qualification, (there's a thriving business in fraudulent nursing qualification from Nigeria). One should also mention the elephant in the room. 42% of the 10 million foreign born residents in this country came in the last decade. Since New labour came to power 26 years ago we have had more immigration into this country than the previous 2,000 years combined! (I'm not saying Labour and LibDems would any better, I'm just pointing out why voting for any of the main parties will do nothing to stop the flow). The actions of all political parties have blatantly undermined democracy. If you vote for any of the main parties you will get more of the same - promise one thing and do the opposite - how many times do you have to be betrayed before you realise what they are doing?
If only they had thought about illegal migration before encouraging Brits to exit the EU.
We didn’t want or need European workers , so why would we want third world immigrants in place of something we already didn’t want ?
This would be totally irrational though.... People voting reform are ignoring demographic realties that there are a lot of old people in this country that will need to be cared for and looked after in old age. Not only that, we need more tax revenue from a working age population. If you stopped all immigration into Britain with a referendum, once again you're shafting young people, who will have pick up the tax bill. How do baby boomers think this is fair? House prices are ridiculous, wages are stagnant, young people have to pay university tuition of 27k and now because you don't like immigrants you want a referendum on that whilst you'll be picking up a triple lock pension in your old age... very selfish
Not planning of getting old then, be careful what you wish for
@@davebrown5539 Thats what I'm eluding to. I'm fully aware I'm going to be old one day. I would like to be cared for, I would like to have good doctors. I would like good engineers paying into the tax revenue to fund public services and pensions. We need immigration for these reasons, its irrational to say you can have millions of dependent baby boomers and say no more immigrants tomorrow.
Pointing the finger in the wrong direction. Division does not help. Not funding the lives of people who are not British nationals might be a good start.
@@integinteg9222 people and politicians scaremongering over immigration are the divisive ones. these 'non british nationals' are funding our public spending. They are working age, going and doing jobs british people are either too lazy to do or didn't study for like science, health service and maths based jobs.
@@integinteg9222 people clambering for populist politicians to stop immigration are the divisive ones. These 'non British nationals' are the people paying into our tax system. How do you suppose the treasury counters the shortfall in taxes that will happen if we cut immigration by 600k? Who will work in the hospitals, care homes, engineering firms, software development?