✔ DiResta 28 Hand Made vs Mind Made
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Hand and mind. Not one or the other. Both are required to do anything useful.That's my take.
fuckin nailed it
unless you're Stephen Hawking... he has the mind thing down.
He doesnt really have a choice though... :D
Hawking is mind only, as he deals with Theoretical sciences.
workhardism. I agree. If you can think it up then any way it takes to make it and improve on what you can already do is a good thing. Machines are built to help do things better.
“He who works with his hands is a laborer.
He who works with his hands and his head is a craftsman.
He who works with his hands and his head and his heart is an artist.”
I'd take "you changed" as the best compliment
ansiaaa that's so true. I'd get bored if Jimmy just kept doing the same stuff with the same techniques. it's good to see new innovations and new stuff. plus it's not like he's given up on making things "the old fashioned way".
you've changed... for the better in my opinon
Jimmy, your vlogs are just absolutely amazing! The way you tell stories with words, sounds, and images is unique in my experience. Please keep making these 'windows into your world'.
I just wish they were longer!
James Ralston exactly
#todoinventostv
Agreed. There are a lot of RUclipsrs who could learn a lot from Jimmy's blog style/pacing.
conner jonson Girlfriend.
+conner jonson Do you have a clue as to what this channel is about?
You need a mind to make something with your hands, but you don't need hands to make something with your mind. Its not a bad thing to be good at one or the other but it's amazing to be good at both, possibilities are endless. KEEP UP THE GOOD WORK 👍
It is amazing to be able to use your hands! I finally had surgery to slow down my tremors, so I can get back into the shop. Still love this xray. fineartamerica.com/featured/2-deep-brain-stimulating-electrodes-x-ray-living-art-enterprises.html
Loving the vlogs Jimmy! And regarding hand made vs mind made, you combine old tricks with new technology and I think that's the best. It's all about creativity and hard work in the bottom line. Cheers!
Hand made things are also made with the mind, and the effort put into them makes them more valuable. Like everything in life, the more you put into it, the more value it has.
As a full-time graphic designer, from a family of "traditional" makers I often encounter this subject. The general idea/criticism is that what I do isn't a craft since I "let the machine do all the work for me" - Which isn't the case. I see graphic design as much of a craft as woodworking. In my spare time I like to do some leathercraft, and I don't see any difference with the process in making for example a wallet, or making a set of icons in Illustrator. The ideas are there, just different (hand) tools. I am in control of the tool, I have the ideas, and I execute the ideas, just with different tools and skills.
That being said; You will always have to have some respect and knowledge for the old craft, without them you wouldn't be where you are today. At the same time, it's equally disrespectful to stop exploring your craft, as it is to "forget" the past. So yes, mind and hand goes... hand in hand.
The day when it doesn't become a "legit" craft is when we let the machine do ALL the work - But again, that only raises the question whether or not the machine is a craftsman or not (But that's a whole other level of AI).
Interesting comment, very thoughtful.
Nice insight, thanks for sharing.
So many great comments and ideas. Thank you all!!
great content and very inspirational videos....better than tv
jimmydiresta where'd the bandsaw 3way video
I second getting a vinyl cutter. If you are a wood or steel worker (or foam for that matter) and you don't have a CNC way of cutting things. Use the vinyl cutter to make really accurate templates if you are cutting by hand. The techniques learned in how to use a vinyl cutter translate directly to using a CNC router or plasma. So, it's like CNC training wheels. Plus you can make decals!
There are very, very limited ways to get a vinyl cutter to cut off a Mac. If you are an Apple user, and want to get a vinyl cutter, I can walk you through the steps and what you need to do. I'm currently running a 24 year old Graphtec, I picked up off CL. I was told it's impossible to get an older HPGL style plotter to work on a Mac. (It doesn't even have a USB port, but a wide parallel port. Heck, it even has a SCSI port!)
Thanks for the interesting comment, I will keep it in mind as I work in both wood and steel.
Eco Mouse ...also a vinyl cutter is a plotter. You can put a pen or pencil into the blade holder instead, load up paper for precise easy patterns. The skill of vectorizing learned along the way is invaluable.
Craig Hanson I use a special sharpie holder all the time for drawing up Cardboard Aided Design, when I'm welding/fabricating. I get full size parent sheets of thick card stock to use as my samples or test pieces, before I start cutting or bending my real materials.
Hey Jimmy.
There is a big difference between making with the mind and hand tools and making with the mind and an automatic machine. One of the things that makes Jimmy Diresta, Jimmy Diresta is the way he manipulates materials and machinery unlike any other person I know. Each tool can be turned on its head to play its part in the creation of something quite special. It's why I subscribe. Thousands of people can come up with an idea, program a machine and press the button but only a few can do it with hand tools to leave a bit of soul in the work. A computerised machine is soulless and replaces the original Jimmy Diresta with an imposter.
making with mind vs hand made - boring conversation - I own a CNC and there is always a ton of hand work involved. Period - In fact when working with the CNC I only wish it were as easy as working with my hands. I get the urge to grab the materail and do it my way.
You always transmit a powerfull amount of positivity and kindness. Really inspired from you, thank you.
Junk Workshop thank you !
What brings us all to watching, enjoying, and taking part in making is the joy of possibility. Watching something as simple as a sheet of steel become a knife, a table, a bed, or a candle holder is a special event. Something handmade is unique as you can see marks, however small of the creator. Using the mind and automated tools offers the same possibility. It just requires a more discerning eye. The design and pattern here are just as special as the hand file marks or a rough sawn edge. It is the result of infinite possibilities that keeps us going forward happily. The only thing that troubles me is my jealousy of a tool that offers such amazing possibilities! Thanks Mr. Diresta!
Give someone a CNC and tell them to make something with it, I assure you it is not as simple as you expect. The design and setup process is crazy. When Jimmy gets a machine such as this tormach it can expand his ability to make intricate designs from more difficult to work materials. The hand and mind go together with each other. Jimmy will not stop making with his hands but these machines gives him more options. Keep it up jimmy, your an inspiration no matter what you do.
After watching this I felt sorry for you Jimmy DiResta. Don't get me wrong, I just resonated with having live in NYC for a long time and having left. Watching your vlogs makes me reminisce. There is no place on earth like NYC. You'll miss being there, and the memories are priceless, soak it up. Thanks for taking us on this ride.
no Jimmy, there is no difference between making with your hands or making with your mind. and you have not changed! you are a true artist, and as such you explore all media and all techniques, and that's why I've been following & loving you since 2011!
Jimmy you have this kindness that shines through in all the videos you appear in, you have a big heart sir
I started as a machinist, but ended up in software development. Working with the physical is infinitely more rewarding, gratifying and joyful than doing pure mind work. Completing a software project is a thrill for about 5 minutes, but building something for you and your family? that buzz lasts a long, long time.
Man, keep doing your amazing videos, doesnt matter if it´s handmade or machinemade, everything is mindmade at some point. by the way, when it´s your birthday? March 21st was mine (completely useless information).
I knew an old master sergeant that said "If you're not getting better you're getting worse because nothing ever stays the same." By using new tools it opens the mind for new better projects!! Keep getting better!
No worries. In the mean time I added a bit more material so the machining time is a bit less. I also optimised the CAM a bit further.
everything starts as a picture/idea/blueprint in your head. wether you use the latest technology or the most old-school techniques you're still creating something with your hands that comes from your mind. am I using only files and fire to make my knife? no I'm using an air and a bench grinder. yeah it would be awesome to have a plasma cutter but I work with what I have just like you do. your videos are awesome and I always look forward to watching them. keep up the amazing work mr DiResta
Hand and mind work together to make everything. Love your work Jimmy
If someone tells me I have changed, my only response is "I hope so."
People underestimate the amount of skill that goes into making effective drawings for cnc machines, and hand making builds those skills. That said, handmade things have their own intrinsic value simply because of the fact that they are handmade, and each and every one of them is unique
I love the idea of making with the mind. That's all I did before I started buying tools. Changes are good, keeps it interesting. Keep learning and changing. Thanks.
Jimmy, the vlogging camera shots look wicked this week! New camera, or just some new settings?
Paul Dobbrick he got a canon g7x mark 2.
Much goodness. So many awesome people. Thanks for sharing and keep making!
If you don't create it with the mind you can't create it with the hands.
Your work is amazing no matter the method or medium.
Thanks for all you do to teach, guide and inspire others.
As Ben said, hand made incorporates a skill from experience that most of us don't have. In my mind I've created a 1-legged table, but it doesn't mean I know how to build it. Love your work man, looking forward to the next video
As a software engineer I'm usually making stuff with the mind. Woodworking has been a welcome retreat: making tangible, physical things. Both are different and the same.
The only people saying it was easy to make that candle box with the CNC plasma have never made something with a CNC plasma.
Love all your work mate, keep it up.
Hey Jimmy! I wouldn't say you have changed. You're just adapting and broadening your horizons. I'm glad you're constantly trying new things and evolving while some are just repeating the same recipe. Your content has changed who I am in the last few years. I don't see things, material things that is, the same way now .I have a new found respect for craftsmanship in all area I didn't have before. I wish there was just more authentic maker/communicator like you, David and Bob on mainstream media to promote making a little more. Thanks for everything you do and share...
Jayson Dénommée thank you !!
Jimmy, everything you do is inspiring. CAD or not. You are the reason I started making knives. Your first hatchet video inspired me to do some making myself. I got pretty good at making knives and now I'm starting a RUclips channel of my own. Thanks for all the inspiration! Keep doing you!
Really enjoyed this video - a blend of music / visual / art / instruction. I do a lot of "mind made" on top of my "hand made" - only difference is one tends to be more physically obvious (especially while you are doing it). No one sees the "smoke inside the box" that you mentally moved about and formed to get a physical result.
There is a difference between man made and mind made...however that doesn't mean one is necessarily better than the other. Just different. I find it more impressive when things are hand made personally. Shows more craftsmanship.
I worked as a design engineer for 30 years but I have always loved using my hands to build stuff. You need both but it's better to see it in the flesh than on a monitor screen.
Hand, mind, or direct matter transmutation, making is a talent that can be accomplished in many ways and it doesn't matter one little bit about how you accomplish the making. It's all about the journey, not the beginning or end.
Just keep doing what you do Jimmy, way more of us appreciate you sharing your knowledge and skill with us than those poor souls who think they have to hate on everything.
Your kind of making is fantastically entertaining, no matter if it's with cnc or by hand. MAKING ANY WAY BREEDS IDEAS... Thanks Jimmy!
Thank you for the shoutout Jimmy! I'm really glad you enjoyed the wood burning :)) This vlog was awesome!
What is the value of people like Jimmy? I've had the following quote on my desk for probably the last 40 years. Pretty much says it all.
A mind that is stretched by a new experience can never go back to its old dimensions.
Oliver Wendell Holmes, Jr.
robert montalbano wow I'll remember this
Jimmy, I love your content, the things you make. You are the main reason behind how I started building finally on my channel. I think you are a man of the times. You are growing, constantly learning, taking on new ideas and concepts. THIS makes you a better craftsman, for it puts better ideas into the toolbox of your mind. Being a high school teacher (graphic arts) I'm constantly showing my kids you constantly need to evolve as a craftsman. You not only have these old world skills and understandings, but you also have the nuances of today. Keep on keeping my friend. I say it is equal parts hand and mind sir.
Andrew Jones wow thank you
I'm building a boat and bringing it to you hopefully ealry July if your about. I'm contacting you via your P.O. box about it.
Mr Diresta, ich liebe Deine Arbeit und ich bewundere Dich zutiefst. Manchmal laufen mir die Tränen über das Gesicht, wenn ich sehe wozu Du in der Lage bist und mit welcher Hingabe Du arbeitest und welch ein Wissen du über Material und Fertigungstechniken hast. Danke für Deine Videos.
The mind always makes, the tools assist. Tools get more technical time moves on. The end result is the same, a beautiful piece you are proud of. Thank you Jimmy for the inspiration.
Hi Jimmy, your editing has become an art itself. So many cool shots, sounds, angles and stories, simply gorgeous work there! Keep changing!
Jimmy, these vlogs keep getting better and better. I really enjoy the snippets where you have guests. Keep that up (sure there is no shortage of folks who drop by).
You've taught me more than my own dad. Thanks Jimmy.
Hey man, Just wanna let you know you were one of the first RUclips channels I looked up to when I was first starting my own RUclips channel about 5 years ago. I just noticed that you were subscribed to me. I appreciate it! Your work is seriously legit and it means alot! I just crossed 830k subscribers, and your channel played a part in that, even though you didnt know it. Thanks for creating! Keep at it man. You're touching all kinds of lives even in ways you dont even realize.
+JerryRigEverything wow congrats!! Thank you bro!!
You've changed. How awesome it must be to learn all those new ways of making!
On many occasions I've worked on a project all night, in my mind. Problem solving, efficiency and material saving steps. A lot of similarities...
I've been watching you for a couple of years now. I think what you do is cool and interesting and thought provoking and fun. Keep going keep changing keep challenging yourself. That's what art is and I'm all in!
The thought behind the process is what's critical, as well as understanding what process you're using is what's most important. Without that, you won't be able to do anything. Doing it by had is always great, but it's not always the best way to go.
Cool little vise, I tried to buy one at a swap meet yrs ago but another guy jumped in an offered $30 more than my $35, haven't seen another since but I've often thought of it while I was trying to hold odd-shaped parts. When I'm in the new garage I'll build one. I remember her from the video "how many things can you make with a baseball cut in half" and I've subscribed since. Good video, thanks for sharing
I think about hand made vs mind made a lot because I have done a lot of design that involves digital fabrication. I have several furniture pieces I've designed that use steel pieces that are laser cut and bent. I don't personally have access to a laser or plasma cutter or an automated press brake that can bend precise angles so I draw the pieces in a cad program and have local steel fabricators make the parts for me. Then I do the final assembly and finishing myself. I'm proud of the pieces I've done this way but I have found that I don't like being separated from the actual making of the thing. There is something incredibly satisfying about doing every step of the process yourself. Because of this I've started designing things that I can make myself with the tools that I have. Putting this constraint on myself is a challenge but I think it pushes me to be a better designer. I will also say, Jimmy does have a lot of cool tools but it takes a lot practice and knowledge to use those tools. I've used laser cutters, Cnc mills, 3D printers and such and they all have a learning curve and take practice and skill to use. Just because the process is digital doesn't mean it's easier or some sort of cheat. Thanks for doing what you do Jimmy.
I would say it's a big difference, mind made is a dream, sometimes never attained or attainable....a flying submarine. Use what you have. You can make things a lot of us can't because of 1. You equipment 2. Your vast knowledge / experience 3. Your imaginative vision of what is possible.
What you see in your mind demands creation by your hands, Tooling and time are a second thought, more advanced tooling does not always account for the 'Damn, I should have thought about that'. It is about the project and learning! Thanks, Jimmy!!
I think it's obvious people watch for your creativity! Keep up the awesomeness !!
Jealousy is a terrible thing jimmy. Keep up the great work. I am always inspired by people that are go getters. So inspiring thanks for sharing!
I like the analogy you used about people appreciating how difficult it is to learn & play a musical instrument well & not realising it's the same sort of skill in making the things you make. Hey Jimmy this is your new album, your the musician & songwriter. You do your thing the way you want to do it. Music changes, we all change. The only thing that's says the same is nothing. Your videos open up new worlds for people like yourself who couldn't learn the way the vast majority of people learn. Be proud of that & what you do my friend. The Beatles changed their musical style all the time. We all still remember them whether they like them or not........ keep on keeping on Jimmy... Atb fella. Joe Sant.
Great job on the vlog. If you don't open your mind to new ideas it's "doing the same thing over and over expecting different results". New tools and how you apply them is the mind, the skill of that application is the hands and mind. Not cutting off your fingers is good use of hands.
whether its with your hands or with your mind I enjoy all the different inspiring things you make.
Good one Jimmy (yeah, I'm late to the game on this one)... Change means you're evolving. Not changing is stagnating.
The vinyl cutter part reminded me of when I was in college (early 90s). I used to make some custom decals for folks I worked with or went to school with. I'd buy vinyl scraps from a sign shop for a few bucks, and then hand cut and layer each color on to make the decal. The most involved one I did was a Tasmanian Devil shooting a hockey puck for a friend at the time who loved hockey.
Enjoying the vlogs! - Jim
Interesting topic. If it's for a hobby I advocate for building the skills of using your hands. Pushing your body to see what you are capable of. Although in your case, you don't need to build a whole lot of skill. You need repeatability, efficiency, and, getting the job done in a timely manner. That's where you need the mind-made.
I want to be a drummer now, I see endless hours of entertainment in only two pencils.
You've always utilized CNC routers in multiple applications, and so in general the compromise is made but we'll always have to finish pieces with handwork.
Mind and hands are both needed. Sometimes the hands will move and handle objects in ways that simulate the mind. Master craftsmen can feel whether sometime is right or wrong. The mind can visualize but the hands provide tangible feedback.
Had a dude comment recently that the CNC made it so easy "even his grandmother could do it". I invited him and grandma to the shop, all expenses paid, and 1000 bucks to boot if she could make something on the CNC from scratch. The catch was I promised to make him famous on RUclips if they failed. Never got a response....................... See ya this weekend man.
+blazingnailgun hahah I got one of those comments. One day there will be a grandma maker space!!!
l think people can see when an item is hand made and feel that its one of a kind. when machines are used it has a look that it can be mass produced,
Interesting vlog episode. This one is a bit different then the ones I sow. Thanks for the inspiration... Thanks for everything.
"You've changed" and than immediately talks about his next two projects... a multipurpose saw stand only a very creative person could come up with, and a shelf for some old bins... neither that involve tech or anything, just creativity and resourcefulness.
Reminds me of a story I once heard about basketball players visualizing shooting hoops vs ones actually shooting hoops. Surprisingly the test showed both groups improved at the same rate. So very little difference in making with the hand vs the mind, conceptualization is the hard part. Although troubleshooting obstacles often requires physical contribution to bring forth the unforeseen. keep exercising that mind Jimmy, or it will become stagnant
Hey jimmy. I have the same pasta roller. If you cut the Handle off a Lowe's screw driver and do minimal grinding, you have a bit to put in a drill to power the pasta roller
12-minute smorgasbord! So many great vignettes in one session! You make fine work look easy, which is even harder to do. Some people blur the line between watching a pro and visualizing themselves doing pro things. Anyone that has ever tried, comes to appreciate the difference.
Making is the physical expression of an idea. All tools are some form of technology. Some tools may be more gratifying or appropriate but it doesn't diminish anything for me to see Jimmy use a CNC. Jimmy seems to approach the world with an appetite for learning and that's inspiring.
"It's a Telefunken U47" haha!
The creative spark in the mind and the thought process therein compels the hands to work! It takes the creative thought process to use any tool, whether its a hand tool or a CNC machine. I don't think there is any real difference difference - except that one takes less time and enables one to produce a greater volume.
When good people change, the change is good. Now we can grow with you. Thanks for the change. I miss NYC.
Been moving heavy equipment manually for some time ! I have some old cast iron , I find that 1 1/2" still pipes , come-a long and some 2x10 are the best ! Good luck in your move !
Your mind drives your hands, your hands drive the tools. No matter what tool you use toCreate it is the same.
As a maker you must never stop learning, or trying new things. New tools create new possibilities.
i confess that when i saw that video where you only used the cnc plasma cutter i was a bit disapointed because i like seing you doing things with your hands....i feel that if we are looking for machines we look at big companies and industrialization, but you give us a glince on those guys that used to do everything by hand,...I thing that is a great value that you have...along with the way that you present your videos that are really unique...i look at you in the same way that i look at a master craftsman that doesn't hide is art and it's secrets...industrializing that may loose a bit of that original feelings that i had when i first saw your videos...
you can throw away these pencils now XD
luckym0nk3y hahah...pretty sure we found the guy who's been breaking all the leads in the pencil.
I always thought making was about using your accumulated skills and the tools available to you to create something. Yes, there's something lost watching an automated process.. But as makers, don't we try to produce the best representation of what's in our imaginations?
As a fan of the channel, I love the direction. Jimmy is one of the most talented makers on RUclips. His knowledge of his craft is humbling to those of us who watch to learn. We're starting to see a DiResta released from the limitations of his skills, and that's saying something. I can't wait to see what that crazy brain comes up with.
It doesn't matter how you make something as long as you made it with care and attention.
Quality does not come from making something by hand, it comes from taking a lot of time and investing a lot of money. Remember: Machines are more precise than we will ever be.
I think that both making by hand and making in the mind are remarkable. One is a final result of skill and vision, and the second is a firm realization of vision. I think both are valuable and we need both, as with everything we need checks and balances. You can't please everyone all the time.
Thank you Jimmy for all your videos. You inspire makers all over.
making with your hands or you mind, doesn't matter really. both take vision and to be skilled at both is really something. I'd say to be proficient at all creative aspects is the sign of a true craftsman
"It looks just like a Telefunken U47..."
"With leather?"
Surely it's about being creative, and creativity starts in the mind. As long as you are making, we'll be watching.
Funky looking Telefunken U47, didn't know there were models like that! ;) ;) Keep up the good work Jimmy!
Great tip
i use my wife's vinyl cutter to make airbrush stencils
Even in the last three years that I've been watching you, Jimmy... You've Changed.
Interesting conversation w/Ben. That violin example really resonated. I've seen those same exact type of comments.
something else, just saw you on old episode of dirty money, donate a "trench art"lamp to the old marine that cares for the war veterans . .. you blew me away dude. respect.
Personally, I hope you keep changing. Especially your underwear. Just saying.
William Lutes hahah good one. Hahah
Hahahahaha to funny
The hand and the mind work together like no other. The maker makes. The tool is used to achieve a result. The tool may change but the art and design only comes from the hand and the mind.
Jimmy, I love your videos. I have a technique you might find helpful for heavy objects, it is similar to how you were lifting the rolling mill bender with the straps around your wrists. However, this allows you to carry even more weight. I had some movers help me move my big furniture pieces and they were primarily piano movers. They took 3 in wide cloth moving straps that were about 8/10 feet long. The straps were individually connected then connected to each other, like a figure 8. They then looped the straps under whatever heavy object they needed to lift. Then each man took their side of the strap and put it over there head and down across their chest, like you were carrying a single strapped satchel bag. Each man kept the buckle near their chest so they could cinch up the slack as they bent their knees. While totally safe on the back two people can lift a monstrously heavy object. They claimed two men can lift 1000 lbs with this technique. I don't know about 1000 lbs but I have used this technique ever since. Keep up the good work.
I understand where people may dislike things being made with machines, but this is the way of the times. Please don't ever muzzle your amazing creativity for the sake of this dogma.
huge fan of your work, FYI, hint hint, no one has made a Viking war shield to resemble the cap to a bottle of Crown Royal. If anyone can do that project justice, it's Diresta.
Glad the sticker made it, thanks for all your inspiration.
If you make anything; it still is designed in the mind. Using your hands or a machine is the next step or just execution of the design. For me all the processes could be enjoyable to see or experience. Keep it up Jimmy, im loving your work!