TS&TT: Megan Basham | Shepherds for Sale: Evangelical Leaders Trading the Truth for a Leftist Agenda
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- Опубликовано: 28 сен 2024
- Today on The Sword & The Trowel podcast, Tom Ascol and Graham Gunden interview Megan Basham, Reporter at The Daily Wire, about her forthcoming book, "Shepherds for Sale: How Evangelical Leaders Traded the Truth for a Leftist Agenda." Megan shares the background of how she came to write this book and the exposing information she discovered along the way. They discuss the specific implications this book has for the Southern Baptist Convention and share information about an exciting event available for attendees at the SBC.
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Thank you! Looking forward to your book! I was in JD Greear’s church, Aikin’s seminary feeding students into our church. We were so disappointed in how these were used by the lefts agenda leaders. So hard to find a truly Biblical church now.
Agreed. Covid really brought that to light, thankfully.
@@GarrettFemister yes! While COVID was awful it forced us to take a really good look at what was happening in the church
The work these two have done in exposing these people is encouraging.
Let's hope pastors care.
I think is such a necessary book. So many of those men have been flying under the radar. Thank you Megan Basham!
Tim Keller was ALWAYS a registered Democrat! Watch the video “Conversations That Matter” Jon Harris put on his channel called “What happened to Tim Keller?” Very eye opening!
I am not Calvinist, but I really appreciate and support Megan Basham’s courage and investigative journalism. She has pulled back the curtain on some very powerful people who have crept into the church with an ungodly, evil agenda. Well done. I can’t wait to get the book.
Keep journeying down the rabbit hole. You might wind up a Calvinist yet.
I am curious why you qualified your comment with the Calvinism statement. And as Jason stated, keep feeding on GOD’S word. HE will show you why the doctrines of grace (Calvinism) are biblical.
Same here. I’m not a Calvinist but really appreciate this ministry and several other Calvinist ministers like John MacArthur.
I think that God does not support Calvinist, everyone has a chance to go to heaven. He reprimanded his disciples many times for telling people that Jesus didn’t have time for them. Jesus had the time for everyone.
I would wait to read the book and do your own research instead of just buying into something wholesale because it agrees with you-I know this is asking a lot.
This lady is a treasure! Truly appreciate her so much. She also reminds me that we are under judgement from God, make no mistake. Among other things, when God judges a nation He sends them wicked rulers and removes the fear of God from His prophets, by application, our pastors. He removes any semblance of testicular fortitude (yup I went there) from our male leaders and gives it to women to also judge us as men. God help us and have mercy. Command what thy will and will what thy command.
Yes she is. Heard of her first when Tucker Carlson interviewed her about the same issue❤
🎯😃👍🏻
No, her critique of many of the names are old. Members and participants in those ministries left and/or continue to pray for those leaders. Her critique of Pastor Ortlund, is delusional, false, a hormonal interpretation. There is no truth or grace in her.
@@Cletus_the_Elder, the Bible talks about people like you, Cletus The Elder. Be careful or worse things will happen to you, Jesus said. Cletus, until you write your book defending your friends and colleagues, and sign your name to it, and let people criticize every word, you need to stop being a false witness for your friends’ agenda. Be filled with the Holy Spirit and KNOW the TRUTH. Basham did her arduous homework to write her book, and you easily sit back and let a woman take up the mantle in our Church Militant fight and then criticize her? You, my sir, are a coward! Real Christians are known by the fruit that the Holy Spirit is doing in and through them. If we can’t repent before men, it proves we NEVER repented to God who we can’t see.
Have been following this in Evangelicalism for 5 years now. It is an uphill battle because Christians don't have the fortitude to search it out in every corner of the church or speak up. The numerous times I have brought it up in Christian circles and church leaders they deny or deflect. It's sad.
This is clearly one of the most important and consequential interviews I have heard in some time. Having served as a pastor, missionary, denominational exec and Christian college and seminary prof, Christianity and culture has long been a concern of mine. Please take the time to listen to this critical interview. Thank you Megan, for your courage, dedication and scholarship to confront some critical issues in the church. The ramifications are great. Thanks, Tom for providing a much needed platform. Stay the Course.
24:10 The SBC is a target for all of the reasons Megan mentioned, but this effort is so successful due to the lack of biblical theology and discernment that is rampant among SBC churches. This is not an outside observation, but one from within, seen by a 60+ year member of SBC churches.
The "Church" has definitely abandoned God in this country. Gatherings have become religious social clubs.
Agree with Tom, repentance & resignation is the only path for these duplicitous pastors.
It is a spiritual battle. Effective teaching of doctrine as a way of bringing people to understanding of the Christian - Conservative - World view is the best approach.
Hardly the first time, Scofield's reference Bible ruined millions theology
How so?
Wonderful and very informative!!!! Megan is such a blessing. Praise the Lord for working through her to keep us informed!!!!
Truth Script is a solid online resource \ alternative to the Gospel Coalition's (not solid) articles.
Banner of Truth, Table Talk, Expositor, & Answers are all good periodicals as well.
Avoid Gospel Coalition like the plague.
Megan is doing unbelievable work
She owes Gavin an apology, but I do not forsee her pride allowing her to.
Haven't read her book, but the implication that she's well researched reminds me of another book that was written about 20 years ago about Billy Graham, called Billy Graham and His Friends by Dr Cathy Burns. Last I checked it was available as a pdf online.
What did you find out from that book
@@conceptualclarity
While I am not familiar with this specific book nor it’s author, people do need to realize that Billy Graham was not the doctrinally sound, man of God that countless people (mainly in the older generation) make him out to be.
He was ecumenical to the extreme, yoked with numerous false teachers (including Pat Robertson, Oral Roberts, & the Pope), believed abortion should be permitted in some instances, and watered down the Gospel to simply “repeating the sinner’s prayer”. Graham was a false teacher, and hence not someone to be referenced for biblical exegesis.
We must work out our faith in everyday life. Thus, we need to stand for righteousness and use our privileges' and rights to vote on the moral issues that God cares about that are clearly written in His word. It's not about being political, but being salt & light as we live out our faith.
Looking forward to this conversation
Are there slander laws in US?
Who cares 'cause none are being committed.
Slander is speech. Libel is printed untruth.
When the Lord Jesus returns, will HE find faith in HIM? Having watched the trajectory of “the church”…evangelicals, etc., it looks as the remnant will be few.
I pray that I can listen to the Holy Spirit and remain faithful.
This is a sobering time. I pray for the Body of Christ.
Yea, except Gavin Ortlund is anything but a shepherd for sale and is a completely orthodox evangelical protestant. Her smear of him is totally unjust and she should issue a clarification at minimum. But her treatment of him most likely deserves a complete re-writing of the book. Totally untrue and a misrepresentation of good pastor. Shameful.
She has got the receipts no misrepresentation on her part.
@@benson0509 Completely Orthodox? You got to be kidding I don't think you know what completely Orthodox means.
Pastor Tom, my God Blessed you and keep you. This is Alfie Mendaje for Philippines.
Pre-ordered. Such a needed study in these times!
Last month's United Methodist General Conference WokeFest only reinforces everything Ms. Basham says.
Absolutely needed! Great job, guys!
Is this what happened to Campus Crusade for Christ?
Yes, it is run by Side B/BLM left-wingers. We need to pray that the Jesus Film will be dislodged from them and come into the hands of some sort of a solid Christian entity.
Wow, I guess it shouldn’t be that surprising, but this is way darker than I expected.
Because you say, “I am rich, and have become wealthy, and have need of nothing,” and you do not know that you are wretched and pitiable and poor and blind and naked. I advise you to buy from Me gold refined by fire so that you may become rich, and white garments so that you may clothe yourself, and that the shame of your nakedness will not be manifested; and eye salve to anoint your eyes so that you may see. Those whom I love, I reprove and discipline. Therefore be zealous and repent.
- Revelation 3:17-19
Great interview, looking forward to the book. The SBC and the old Gospel Coalition New Calvinist crowd have been badly compromised.
Thank you!
If it’s legalistic to say that a piece of energy legislation is a gospel issue (20:00), then it’s also legalistic for a pastor to say a bible-believing Christian cannot support any Democrat (28:00).
Eh huh.....Gavin Ortlund video brought me hear. He is not happy on how Megan totally misrepresented him. If I read Megan's book, I probably would agree with with 96% of her book, I have no beef with her, but she needs reach out to Gavin and work out this issue on how she misrepresented him on climate change.
I agree, out of all the things that she could have accused Gavin Ortlund of being, she chose to accuse him of being a climate change activist. It is almost laughable.
She did not misrepresent he is abberant theologically concerning the flood creation and is higher criticism.
@@IamGreatsword in just watching Alissa Childers and Frank Turek, well, I think you are right. They went over his past videos. Oh my, Ortlund forgot a lot of what he said about climate issues. I stand corrected.
@@graysonbr Being a berean 👍 checking things out instead of "pastor" idolatry and knee jerk reactions from people who don't daily examine themselves to see if they are in the faith. Marxist fifth column rubbish beliefs should be exposed and rejected. Ortlund is to be marked and avoided. He needs to repent of his worldly unbiblical conclusions.
I am deeply disappointed in Francis Collins and how he colluded in silencing truth tellers and shaming them. He specifically lied.
Are you guys just going to ignore all the comments about Ortlund and act as if they don’t exist? Can someone in a spirit of truth and love not call her out? Can we not have some accountability? Can she not show some humility? This whole thing is quite disappointing…
Another commenter here standing up for Gavin Ortlund. Megan needs to apologize for slandering him. Completely outrageous to misrepresent him as she did!
Humanity went through an ice age. Climate change?Carbon footprint?
Humanity experienced the great flood of Noah’s time. Climate change? Carbon footprint?
In China, 1957 to 1960, 10 million people died due to famine which caused by government progressive movement called "Great Leap Forward", but the Chinese government claimed that it was Climate issue. Climate change? Carbon footprint?
Stand down. Ortlund is a satanist.
Megan I could respect you more if you’d back down and apologize over AT THE VERY LEAST giving a misimpression about Gavin Ortlund, if not outright slandering and misquoting him! Even if (especially if?) it was accidental, it still happened…
Don’t dig your heels in; repent!
You have an important message and reputation you can still redeem. Don’t just defend yourself; re-examine the trail of pertinent communications asking “What is Gavin honestly saying? And what impression would a reader of my (Megan’s) words about him honestly get if they just read them? And do they match?”
Ironically, i agree with you-about the issue. About the climate.
But you’re in the wrong, and he’s right, morally
IT IS OK to say, "I was mistaken." We all screw up.
After watching this interview with Megan Basham, the first image that appeared is that God gave a mother the strength to lift a car when her child was facing a life-or-death situation! We as Christians I believe all of us are facing the life-or-death situation today, particular the next generation !
God bless Megan Basham’s work!
Awesome
Thank you 🙏
The demonstrably unfounded character assassination she perpetuated on a faithful man of God is disgraceful. Gavin Ortlund deserves an immediate and public apology. Just shameful.
I wish she didn't lie about Gavin Ortlund.
Can Gavin not sue if she is accusing falsely?
Humanity went through an ice age. Climate change?Carbon footprint?
Humanity experienced the great flood of Noah’s time. Climate change? Carbon footprint?
In China, 1957 to 1960, 10 million people died due to famine which caused by government progressive movement called "Great Leap Forward", but the Chinese government claimed that it was Climate issue. Climate change? Carbon footprint?
@@StuartVerretyes he can, but because he understands the Bible, I don't believe he would.
The “Falling away in the Church “ has been happening for years.
The Devil finances his agenda and many Baptists who are hostile to the Holy Spirits pushing of the full Gospel teachings
It appears to me that Megan egregiously misrepresented Gavin Ortlund in chapter 1 and owes him an apology and a retraction.
She ABSOLUTELY misrepresented Gavin Ortlund. Straight out lied about his beliefs.
How?
@@bobimoore3342
gavin ortlund/truth unites made a video going through it all, it's about half an hour long
but basically... she used scare quotes to make it seem like he's a climate change absolutist when he said there's plenty of room to disagree and talk about it, and made it seem like he's a liberal theologian over a single video out of 250 videos made
ruclips.net/video/-3ClEkfP8pM/видео.html
@@bobimoore3342 ruclips.net/video/-3ClEkfP8pM/видео.htmlsi=2o5SuI8-JZyM1kPl
ruclips.net/video/-3ClEkfP8pM/видео.htmlsi=eOLcUx2rPKY656JD@@bobimoore3342
"And I tell you, you are Peter, and on this rock I will build my church, and the gates of hell shall not prevail against it.". Matthew 16: 18
The rock was Peter's confession: that Jesus is the Christ.
We need to turn from this fallen "world information" to fix our lives and turn to GOD'S BREATHED OUT WORD in the Bible he is the only way!!!
Therefore by their fruits you will know them.(Matthew 7:20 NKJV)
Without observation from the real world, how do you know their fruit? 🤔
Policy trumps personality!!!
KJB vs ESV (and many other versions)
KJB, Daniel 9:25-26. "Know therefore that from the going forth of the commandment to restore and to build Jerusalem unto the Messiah the Prince shall be seven weeks and threescore and two weeks, the street shall be built again, and the wall, even in troublous times.
And after three score and two weeks shall Messiah be cut off, but not for himself:......"
ESV, Messiah is translated, the anointed one the prince.
KJB, Matthew 18:11. "For the Son of man came to save that which was lost."
ESV, "Son of man not mentioned, blank." Seriously, would God be pleased with this translation?
KJB, Luke 9:56.
"For the Son of msn is not come to destroy men's lives, but to save them. And they went to another village."
ESV, "And they went on to another village."
They threw Jesus out again!!!
She attacks low hanging fruit, mentioning leaders whose repentance is on the minds and prayers of many believers. Her delusional mischaracterizing of Pastor Ortlund, however, is stunning. She has created a caricature of her own imagining and will not see the person, his character, and his ministry as it truly is. Is this a lady thing?
It’s so interesting, the “never Trump” sentiment among so many “Christian’s.”
Mostly women, and the reason is 90% of the time because he’s a sinner or he’s, fill in the blank… we’re all sinners and if not for the Grace of God, all of us would be headed straight to hell. Read Matthew 7: 3-5 or John 8: 6-11, just to start.
This goes back to the evil treaty of "Catholics & Evangelicals Together."
The majority of Evangelicals ARE emergent churches pushing middle eastern mysticism. Bethel church for example, but there are hundreds more.
Much of this started in the 50's from corporate groups that caused the inflection of true yoga and other mystic practices which many churches accept today..
The great falling away has been here for awhile. Its just coming to a head now. False teachings, false teachers........
Absolutely correct!
I agree that Megan needs to humbly approach Gavin Ortland regarding the alleged slanders she makes by misquoting him and sharing out of context.
I live in Hong Kong China. I am more concerned that she spend more time critiquing and pointing out error from Michael Wear and Dallas Willard and spend her valuable time pointing out the insidious errors in Wear’s book, “The Spirit of Our Politics”; instead of going rabid in her attacks on Gavin.
I have followed Gavin online for 3 years here in Communist China and he is a sound biblical apologist and theologian of Church History. He has some views I don’t agree with completely but that does not make him an advocate of heterodoxy. On some of the others that she has exposed in her book; I heartily agree. Nevertheless, she needs to take the step to be reconciled with Gavin privately and later have a civil vigorous discussion of the issues involved and let the onlookers from the universal church decide for themselves in their particular conservative orthodox context. I am fervently praying for this to happen to the glory of the Lord Jesus Christ and for the sake of the integrity of the gospel and biblical truth transmitted here on these online podiums. ✝️❤️🔥
Love this book; it needed to be written especially given the lack of time ministers have to research the daily changing scene in a variety of churches. I find it interesting that so Many ppl are jumping in to 'defend' Gavin Ortlund; I followed him for a short time but there were too many red flags in what I was hearing from him.
She slanders Gavin Ortlund…what a shame. Gavin is certainly not a leftist. Same goes for Doug Moo and Tim Keller. Sad.
Ortland did make a response video to the book
ruclips.net/video/-3ClEkfP8pM/видео.htmlsi=2o5SuI8-JZyM1kPl
I like Gavin. Tim Keller is a sellout though
Tim Keller's church was filled with card carrying leftists enslaved to the cult of Molech and he did nothing to call them out of it. Meanwhile, the rest of us who know how wicked the Democrat Party is had to listen to his insufferable double talk and subtle condescending lectures about open mindedness and that the Dem platform was a valid moral choice for true Christians. Tim Keller was a fraud.
Tim Keller!? Really???? He is SO leftist. Totally NOT pro life
Did Tim Keller not pass away last year.
Big Eva vs. Big Phari.
Thank God Megan Basham for her courage and faithful heart ❤
Tom l am looking forward to your comment.
A book about the useful idiots of the SBC. Very needed, sadly.
This type of thing isn't new. As I understand, Hearst backed Billy Graham, fruit from the Modernist/Fundamentalist time.
Like Russell Moore?
I grew up in a Southern Baptist Church (NW Baptist in Miami). My parents were founding members. Homer G. Lindsay, Jr. was my pastor. I was saved under his minsitry. My mother was his secretary for a time. I was very active in the youth minstry. I have been a missionary for over 50 years. I am doing what I do as a result of Bro. Lindsay's ministry and influence in my life. A number of the youth group also became pastors or missionaries. I have worked in Eastern Europe/Russia for 40 years. I have never voted for a Democrat and probably never will. I agree with most of what was said on this podcast. That is where I am coming from.
You mentioned at around 28:00 that one can't vote for a Democrat, no matter how good the person may be, because the Democratic platform is anti-God. So whom then does one vote for? How can I put a check next to Trump's name? He is anti-God also, (no matter what he says). And saying that, "Well, I'm not voting for him, I'm voting for the lesser of two evils, or I'm voting Republican because at least their platform is more this or that when it comes to the Bible" doesn't cut it either as an argument. I did that in the past, but no more. So what is the answer?
Your question is a good one, and honestly one that I, as a Reformed Baptist who voted previously for Trump have struggled with.
Trump is not a Christian; there’s no reason to believe otherwise. He is pro homosexual, pro gambling, is an adulterer, has softened his stance on abortion, has been thrice married, and had Paula White for his “spiritual advisor”. I’ve grown some too, in my sanctification, and I don’t presume that my response is akin to scripture.
There is no conceivable reason why or how a born again follower of Christ can vote Democratic. There is literally nothing in the party platform which is not antiGod, antiBiblical, antiFamily, antiFreedom. So I am not a Republican. I am a registered Conservative. I don’t watch FoxNews, I don’t listen to talk radio, and I find it very disturbing how countless supporters of Trump act as if he is the second coming of Christ. (The whole “Brandon” garbage, saying that he was the greatest president in history, etc.)
The main difference between Trump and the Democrats is that Trump does not have an activist agenda. He does not want to fundamentally transform and rid society of any shred of morality. He was great for the economy. He appointed solid federal court justices. As a federal court worker, I witness firsthand the absurdly over expansion of government, which eventually the Left wants to use as a means to control literally everything and anything. Biblically speaking, government’s role is to collect a FAIR share of taxes, punish evildoers (including capital punishment), protect its citizens, have a military, and honestly very little else.
You have to ask yourself before Election Day, who will support and defend the biblical worldview best.
Hope that helps.
I understand. But read Genesis 12:3 and ask yourself this question. Who moved the American embassy to Jerusalem in spite of so many presidents who strongly implied that they would but didn’t? Who has been solidly pro Israel? And who is the most pro life of the candidates running? You’re right. He’s not a christian. But Biden turning his back on Israel was the ultimate deal breaker for me. Whatever his views actually are he governed as a pro life and pro religious liberty president for four years. I’ll take four more.
@@patrickc3419 Thank you for your reply. I agree with everything you said. My comment was more of a statement on the sad (and dangerous) state of our political affairs. When the choice between who will lead (?) our country is between Biden and Trump, we are in trouble. Unfortunately, Congress isn't much better. I am tired of holding my nose when I vote. Since I live in Florida and it will probably go Trump, I will likely write someone in as a protest and vote Republican downticket. In the end, God is sovereign.
@@BruceGower
Amen!
Isaiah 2:22, Psalm 146:3
Trump is NOT a Communist…that should be reason enough to vote FOR him considering the alternative…but you go right ahead and cast your vote according to your ‘conscience’…just don’t whine when Biden is re elected…there hasn’t been a Christian candidate for POTUS in over 100 yrs, but I’m not gonna let that stop me from voting AGAINST THE LEFTIST AGENDA!!!
Megan's work picks up where David Hunt left off.
W O W!
Interesting and sad.
Basham is an experienced Bible teacher and counselor to pastors.
Haven't read it.
🙏Amen!🙏
#Trump2024
Fid you speak privately with the "Shepherds" you deem "for sale"? The Bible is clear how we are to handle conflict and it is to stsy IN the body of Christ. Did you do that?
Those who are sinning rebuke in the presence of all, that the rest also may fear.(1 Timothy 5:20 NKJV)
I can't recommend reading. "On Resistance to Evil by Force" by Ivan Alexandovich Ilyin
How bout you ask her why she fabricated quotes for her book
I can't believe the ignorance of so many commenters here
Slander vs libel...look it up. You're all hollering slander.. .its not...its not libel either when their own words have been used.
Skip Chapter 1 😂
They were well on.the way to deception. They obviously did not look to see wjat pleases God and what does not!
Modern bibles lie, change who God is and continually challenge God and His word by asking,
Did God say? Come on, really?
God said He preserved His word. Psalm 12:6-7. Most modern bibles do not. In other words they are not admitting that God has a standard, His inspired word. His word is quick (alive) and quickens (gives life). His word is eternal.
Most of the modern bibles have at least one out and out lie. NKJB calls Jesus God's servant. The KJB calls him God's Son. [See: What is wrong with the NKJB]
Others quote Jesus telling his brothers, i am not going to the feast. John 7:8. (Is he saying he is going to break the law of Moses?) He waits and then goes. Liar! BLASPHEMY .
Jesus simply said, not going now, not yet. He waits and then goes. No problem, no lie.
Did God say Mark 11:26? Absolutely.
"But if you do not forgive, neither will your Father which is in heaven forgive your trespasses." It is an essential part of our walk with God. A verse that makes us tremble was added?????
Did God say? Acts 15:34? "Not- withstanding, it pleased Silas to abide there still. This shows God's divine providence. Silas was there when Paul needed him for a journey. Obviously Silas remained there.
BRAZENLY, they change or remove a word that gives the believers true power! Matthew 12:31 and Mark 9:29! Some spiritual warfare needs prayer and fasting!
Did God say eleven (11) times in the New Testament the word damnation, eternal burning? Yes. But not in theirs! Did God say?
Did God give three witnesses to that truth? Mark 9:44, 46, 48. They however only have v48. The other two they ask, Did God say? This is important because we need to know the truth and those who preach Annialism, we cease to exist, are easily proven wrong with these verses.
Jesus is God. Yet Jesus is man. Hebrews supports this with four verses, 3:3, 7:24, 8:3 and 10:12: "But this man, after he had offered one sacrifice for sin for ever, sat down at rhe right hand of God; Hebrews 10:12. They do not use the clarifying words 'this man' at all. Again, Did God say?
Every change they make is an insult to God and His word. God said He would curse those who add to or take from His word. Revelation 22:18-19.
In the Old Testament those who honored a false prophet received the reward of that prophet. So the Alexandrian translators, the bible societies the publishers, the promoters, sellers and those who teach from them (showing those ear tickling bibles as God's word) or honor them will be held responsible. If done ignorantly, repent. God will not be mocked.
This happened when the inspired Antioch manuscripts called the Textus Receptus were replaced by the Alexandrian manuscripts called the Codex B or the Vaticanus from the Vatican basement, and the Sianiticus from a monestary. They do not agree with each other and the latter has about 30 changes per page. Obviously inspired by their spiritual father who brings conflict, frustration, despair and DOUBT.
See: King James Bible online
Helpful tool:
Webster 1828 aka
Noah Webster 1828 Dictionary online:
This dictionary has civil and spiritual definitions. Look up: Repent, Regeneration, Believe, Conversation,
Prevent.
Suppliers: Churchkjb.com
Localchurchbiblepublishers.com
Sources:
Adullum Films
-Tares Among the Wheat Sequel video.
Books: The Revision Revised and The Last Twelve Verses of Mark, both by William Burgon. Dean Burgon lived during the time of Wescott and Hort.
Book: Look What's Missing by David Daniels Chick.com.
Book: Mythical Septuagint by Peter Ruckman.
Book: Did Jesus Use the Septuagint? by David Daniels
Megan is a needed and clear voice. I can only hope she has not fallen into the gnostic Augustinian rabbit hole of Calvinism of the Founders Ministry that is tearing many Baptist churches apart. Fortunately the veneer of ‘restoring the gospel’ is being exposed like the oppressive progressive gospel is. ‘Whosoever will’ and ‘whosoever is elected’ are polar opposites. Only one can be true.
Name names
KJB v NASB., LSB,
KJB, Luke 4:8.
"And Jesus answered and said unto him, Get thee behind me, Satan: for it is written, Thou shalt worship the Lord thy God, and him only shalt thou serve."
NASB. "Jesus answered him, It is written, You shall worship the LORD thy God, and serve Him only." So, Jesus excluded Himself???
KJB, Galatians 4:7. "Wherefore thou art no more a servant, but a son, and if a son, then an heir of God through Jesus Christ."
NASB. Therefore, ye are no longer a slave, but a son, and if a son then an heir through God."
Ahhh through Christ. Another attack on Jesus!
KJB, 1 John 4:19, "We love him because he first loved us."
NASB. "We love, because he first loved us." He is left out again!!!
If she really wanted to expose where this is coming from she would have to leave the daily wire and expose the jew
Personally, I do not buy books written by women on any subject having to do with the Bible or Ministry.
"I do not permit a woman to teach or to exercise authority over a man" (ESV)
So, as a young man, you never obeyed your mother?
@@XCUPRF Is your child a Man? smh
0:13 “This is a book that… every Christian pastor should be required to read..."
Is God arbitrary? Is it right and good to platform a Christian woman as an authority to speak on such a pastoral subject as false shepherds and wolves in the church? (1 Timothy 2:11-13) Is this biblical womanhood according to Creation?
Maybe it should be seen as a judgment on those men & pastors that it took a woman to see and expose this. Also, is she preaching, or writing a book?
She’s not preaching or teaching! She’s commenting on current cultural issues…and EVERY Christian in this country would benefit from her astute commentary!
She's a journalist and she works out of her home. Her output is more oriented towards quality than quantity.
I do get the clear impression that she feels very strongly that the opposition to women pastors needs to succeed. Her articles have been helpful to the Law Amendment.
I have also chosen to comment here because I think the treatment of Gavin Ortlund in the book was unfair and out of context.
To be fair to Megan, there is some rhetoric used by the left that, as Christians, we might want to avoid and a very fine line that we must be careful not to cross. I know that Gavin has always been an advocate of research and study. That 'perseverance' has enabled him to, very successfully, expose many of the questionable accretions of the Catholic and, to a lesser degree, the Orthodox church. It is in this spirit that I believe Gavin encourages Christians not to be averse to research and evidence.
At the same time, what he said in the video in question, if not understood in its full context, can come across as being far too close to leftist catch phrases. Gavin needs to be sensitive to that.
What all Christians need to be aware of is that the 'Daily Wire' is conservatism with Christian overtones. Primarily, it is a secular organization that supports partisanship more than Christianity.
Megan said so much herself in this interview, that she has felt more free to write this book in the manner that she did. This is revealing because her book focuses far more on division and criticism than on unity in religious truth, which is not her current priority. Her current priority is to discourage Christians from even considering any political issue from all angles.
I'm not sure how immigration and environmental concerns are clear cut Biblical issues but, somehow, the Daily Wire wants you to believe that they are. Let's think about that - if we aren't too afraid to.
The catalysm5658, when is the last time you read the Bible? If the LOVE of God’s Word is not in you, of course, you won’t understand what Basham wrote about. God gave her the gift to write this book. Now, you want her to be the peacemaker? Jesus is the peacemaker between us and Holy God. If people TRULY UNDERSTOOD the gift Basham gave to the people mentioned in the book, they would all be THANKFUL to her about calling them to repent. Would you be critical of John the Baptist telling people their sins and repent?
Think of Basham as a “Voice of one calling in the wilderness”. Now, as Christians, we need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and ask forgiveness from those who were mislead by our false teaching.
Tell Ortlund to have a Bible study interview with Basham. The Word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword..it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.”
The catalysm5658, when is the last time you read the Bible? If the LOVE of God’s Word is not in you, of course, you won’t understand what Basham wrote about. God gave her the gift to write this book. Now, you want her to be the peacemaker? Jesus is the peacemaker between us and Holy God. If people TRULY UNDERSTOOD the gift Basham gave to the people mentioned in the book, they would all be THANKFUL to her about calling them to repent. Would you be critical of John the Baptist telling people their sins and repent?
Think of Basham as a “Voice of one calling in the wilderness”. Now, as Christians, we need to repent and ask God for forgiveness and ask forgiveness from those who were mislead by our false teaching.
Tell Ortlund to have a Bible study interview with Basham. The Word of God is sharper than any two-edged sword..it judges the thoughts and attitudes of the heart.”
@ruthdella37 I think you probably haven't seen a number of other posts I have made. Megan probably correctly captured the SPIRIT of what Gavin said. And, by her own admission, she has stated that she wasn't calling out Gavin anywhere near as much as she was other Christian influencers.
That said, the way she handled the DETAILS of exactly what Gavin said was reckless and sloppy. Some of what Gavin said in his original video bothered me quite a bit, but if you listened really closely, he really did try to approach the problem from a Christian stewardship position - which is something I support.
I really think they were both a little reckless with how their messages came across. Honestly, I don't think it is beneficial to the faith for us to get hung up on who apologizes first. I would just like to see that happen.
Does that seem to be an unChristian perspective?
BTW, if you had read my book, you would know that I associate agenda-drivenness with those without true faith and Christ-centeredness as those with it. To be excessively against climate change or even adamantly against those who want you to take it into consideration, is the mark of someone who appears to have unhealthy priorities.
This is exactly how Balaam advised to bring Israel down. Seduction works where confrontation fails. Hence the increased effeminacy of the Church valuing feelings and relationships over Truth.
Thank you for this interview. And it definitely sheds needed sunlight.
Just happened upon this after recently learning how CRU is embracing and forcing upon staff a very leftist agenda. So sad!! My sister and brother-in-law will be attending the Southern Baptist convention and I have let them know of your luncheon. Good work!!
I'm really looking forward to reading Megan's book. She is exposing some massive corruption behind Big Eva.
They have pretty much infiltrated all of the other major Protestant denominations with success. SBC is probably last man standing.
I appreciate Megan Basham's work, however, she really needs to publicly retract her false accusations made against Gavin Ortlund in the book. Please see his video correcting the record.
I caught his video earlier as well. Agree.
Same. How do you trust the rest of the book when chapter 1 starts off that bad?
@@joehernandez3231 with what she mentioned about the book above and knowing details from other sources about men like Russell Moore and CT. She's probably not off in the book about them. With being a member of the SBC and keeping up with the politics there, she's probably not off about Platt or Greaer either.
@@joehernandez3231 Exactly.
You need to watch her being interviewed by Doug Wilson and Friends. They deal with the Gavin Ortland accusations and his defense. They also discuss how much true fact checking had to take place before the book was published. There is video evidence that her accusations were not false. Check out that podcast.
Watch Gavin Ortland's response to Megan's write-up about him in her book. According to Gavin, she is being more than unfair. Any story sounds true until the other side is heard.
Gavin Ortlund = Godless
Amen! Thank you for coming out and openly declaring that Christians cannot support the Democratic Party. Their platform is so blatantly anti-christ that it sickens me to hear pastors it’s okay to support the D-Party.
Agreed. There is literally nothing (NOTHING) in the party platform that isn’t unbiblical.
Any pastor who declares that has shown himself to be unfit for the ministry and people should just get up and leave and start looking for another church at that moment.
In 2018 I went on the local Trinity Baptist website and it was all about little kids transitioning and how supportive they are for it.
@@markworden9169 what denomination does that coven belong to? That is what I would call it rather than a church
Yes! Andy Stanley publicly said that you CAN be a Christian and a Democrat. Terrible.
Man, for someone who sold her soul to the “facts don’t care about your feelings” crowd, she sure doesn’t like to work with facts. Disgraceful.
Megan slandered Gavin Ortlund in clear, demonstrable, ways that can be proven without a shadow of a doubt. We shouldn't be handing such busybodies the loudest megaphones.
Gavin Ortlund is a heretic. He should apologize to the universe.
@MGAF688 you do realize that's like someone saying, "hey someone assaulted gavin" and you're like "he's a flat farther so he had it coming"
All Gavin does is slander other Christian’s. I’m glad he is getting a taste of his own medicine.
@Ryan-nv3dz care to provide an example?
@American_Fugitive I love it when you can't defend your position so you just ignore what she did wrong
Very informative. Thanks. God bless
Ive been a Christian for decades. The difference now? People don't study the Word, they read these books. Get your head into the Bible! View issues from God's perspective!
Quit slandering Gavin Ortlund, Megan; this friendly fire needs to stop. Sincerely, a fellow opponent of wokeism.
She lied about Gavin Ortlund. She is bearing false witness.
IS Gavin a calvinist
@@jj-ns3ck yes
Does Gavin support any of the Democrats platforms? If so, do you know what they are? What did she say about him in summary?
Gavin Ortlund doesn't believe in the Word of God.
@@MGAF688 Oh yeah? Why?
After reading articles about this book, I’m so disappointed in Basham.
She did not interview any of the ppl she used as examples. WTH !!!
This is too often slander. Why do that… there is a compromise in many churches but she used the well named folks that bring attention.
Sad bc this harms the body of Christ.
We are in a war and some ppls agenda isn’t good. Unfortunately, Basham seems to have her own agenda $$$
So glad this will be published soon. It both enrages me and saddens my heart toward the Church. I look forward to reading more.
David Platt’s book on voting.
🎯💯.
Russell Moore, David French, Rob Bell, Phil Vischer, Andy Stanley, Brian McLaren, Thabiti Anyabwile, and yes, Tim Keller, need to be called out by name for the unbiblical, false teachers that they are.
They need grace, and need Christ. In the meantime, mark and avoid.
Tim Keller started strong. A lot of his sermons really impacted my life. But just like Peter hanging around with the circumcision party, he allowed his friendships with worldly wolves to sway him.
@@myrachtn3
For sure.
He had such an awesome opportunity, living in a modern day Sodom and Gomorrah known as New York City, to influence it with the glorious message of the Gospel, and yet tragically he let the reverse happen: New York City influenced him.
‘The Reason for God’ is solid! But if you sit in a barber chair long enough, you’re gonna get a haircut! Keller got clipped!
Add Rick warren
Tim Keller's church was filled with card carrying leftists enslaved to the cult of Molech and he did nothing to call them out of it. Meanwhile, the rest of us who know how wicked the Democrat Party is had to listen to his insufferable double talk and subtle condescending lectures about open mindedness and that the Dem platform was a valid moral choice for true Christians. Tim Keller was a fraud.
I canceled my subscription to WORLD magazine after 18 years when the leftward drift began…first the ‘Never Trump’ stance, then the adulation of David French and his ilk…broke my heart really…I loved that magazine for nearly two decades
WORLD needs to change its name to GLOBALIST.
Christianity Today is another useless magazine that has discredited itself.
Stick with Banner of Truth, Expositor, Table Talk, & Answers!
@@andrewbrowne5557 I wonder if it's gotten back to where it needs to be since they threw out the ring leader of the Never Trumpism, Marvin Olasky (who sadly used to be good as best I could determine)
Thanks! I always love it when you have Megan Bashum on!
Thank you for this! Very informative and answers lots of questions.
I hope Megan doesn't have a case of what Tom in this video calls metanoiaphobia (beginning at 36:36). She blew it; she's misrepresented Gavin (demonstrably so). Like all of us, she's a sinner. She makes mistakes. We don't expect perfection. But we do expect her to own up to it and apologize.
Furthermore, I agree with Megan's positions on the political issues she's addressing. But I know she has misrepresented Gavin. How can I trust that she's fairly represented the others she's calling sell outs?