The Full Story of Shadow Company (Modern Warfare 2 Story)

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  • Опубликовано: 29 янв 2025

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  • @Inkslasher
    @Inkslasher  Год назад +49

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    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @Gangsta_Playz
      @Gangsta_Playz Год назад

      Inkslasher when charlesFN doesn’t purchase there sponsored VPN 😱

    • @hiske3603
      @hiske3603 Год назад +1

      $11 that probably the most expensive yet😒

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      @LND-zcrzy Год назад +1

      ip addresses dont give people access to your passwords and location because your ip changes quite frequently

  • @silashurd3597
    @silashurd3597 Год назад +601

    Honestly, after seeing Shadow Company in the new MWII, they’ve honestly become one of my favorite groups in COD!

    • @sensei27
      @sensei27 Год назад +43

      @@chazzz. everyone gots a opinion bud

    • @theyluvsonnyy
      @theyluvsonnyy Год назад +4

      common american

    • @Gen_ShadowCompany_203
      @Gen_ShadowCompany_203 Год назад +9

      Started after Season 5 in MW 2019 and the original MW2

    • @Jxwwtz
      @Jxwwtz Год назад +14

      @@chazzz. have u heard of a opinion bro

    • @SlyViscio
      @SlyViscio Год назад +6

      @@chazzz. UNO Reverse

  • @CDNBreadDogs
    @CDNBreadDogs Год назад +173

    Having Velikan return as a Shadow Company boss is a cool callback to MW2019, being introduced as a well known, feared, and respected member of the company. While I would've found it cool if he was in the campaign as a side-boss, like Graves right-hand man, it's still nice seeing him return in multi-player story. Now all we need is Lerch to come back and then every MW2019 will have returned

    • @CDNBreadDogs
      @CDNBreadDogs Год назад +9

      @braulio hernandez imagine Ghost Vs Velikan in a hand-to-hand fight lmao

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +5

      It’s good he wasn’t a side boss in the campaign cause that means we would’ve had to kill him

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +4

      @braulio hernandez he does in building 21 though

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @elraptorgamer08
      @elraptorgamer08 Год назад +2

      ​@@CDNBreadDogs What if in a later season cutscene, ghost beats or kills velikan and shadow company stands down and ghost is now in control of shadow company making them good guys again

  • @cartoonzentertainment
    @cartoonzentertainment Год назад +126

    I hope Shadow Company stay in this reboot saga of MW rather than just fading away with no explanation like in the OG MW3, they could be in multiple COD’s for years to come if done right, hope the ball doesn’t get dropped with them a second time

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @cartoonzentertainment
      @cartoonzentertainment Год назад +32

      @@chazzz. Thats funny I don’t remember asking you

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      @@Shadow_3-1 no

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      @Nikolay Karlovich then again shadow company only existed to be shepherd’s private army

  • @bezymyannyy4574
    @bezymyannyy4574 Год назад +96

    It would be cool to see a break down of the "vaqueros"

  • @deathrow5261
    @deathrow5261 Год назад +151

    Honestly we need more shadow company skins

  • @duncanthekay6854
    @duncanthekay6854 Год назад +86

    Shadow Company is the best PMC group in both cod and gaming in my opinion.

  • @weirdoplayz3190
    @weirdoplayz3190 Год назад +124

    I really hope we get more shadow company operators to use

    • @alexallen126
      @alexallen126 Год назад +28

      I just want Graves

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      @@alexallen126 no

    • @BlackEagle352
      @BlackEagle352 Год назад +14

      More shadows! And less people like CharlesFN born into the world.

    • @itsyaboiadam2061
      @itsyaboiadam2061 Год назад +15

      I also want more shadow Compony operators

    • @elraptorgamer08
      @elraptorgamer08 Год назад +5

      we got one in season one thats a pretty good sign for our favorite pmc's in cod history

  • @masemannn
    @masemannn 9 месяцев назад +3

    I feel bad for Graves. His men were overrun by Konni and Shepherd wouldnt do anything about it. Shadow Company wouldnt of turned on 141 if they had just sent backup and not try to cover it up

  • @Diego-hh3wd
    @Diego-hh3wd Год назад +48

    Video actually starts at 2:30

  • @sandstinger3454
    @sandstinger3454 Год назад +8

    8:23 absolutely loved that detail of graves name colour changing……..

  • @ericnishiokajudo
    @ericnishiokajudo Год назад +3

    Love how he's casually being hunted in but still getting footage of the SC logos, then smash cut 11:32 to Ink on the left side of the killfeed and magically no more hunt...

  • @neofulcrum5013
    @neofulcrum5013 Год назад +71

    I would weirdly be open to a cod game where we play as one of the bad guy factions.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +8

      Or one where we play as the Russians

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @jameshowe441
      @jameshowe441 Год назад

      ​@Deathmare so no ruissan

    • @sora1498
      @sora1498 Год назад +4

      honestly me too! i loveeeeeee stories that break the whole black and white thing. i would LOVE to experience some of the villains/antagonists first hand

    • @wraitheon4070
      @wraitheon4070 Год назад

      Self report

  • @alexanderwalker3906
    @alexanderwalker3906 Год назад +19

    The OG shadow company gave me the vibe of an “evil” TF141; the type of [REDACTED] Black Ops type that if you know about, you disappear.
    Meanwhile the 2019/22 Shadow Company are basically just the infamous irl Blackwater PMC with Graves even resembling its old CEO.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +8

      Ngl the new shadow company give me vibes of the old 141 also I heard that before they were revealed as mercs they could’ve been a black ops unit of handpicked us patriots that believe in shepherd that would’ve been cool

  • @Handydandymandy
    @Handydandymandy Год назад +4

    8:15 this is so American tbh “I admire it. So I’m taking it”

  • @yawsanandreas2237
    @yawsanandreas2237 Год назад +17

    it aint impossible to imagine what happened or what could happen to SC after the raid on Graves' base that 1. If graves did die either lerch takes over as commander (as hes a senior officer and also the only SC operator from mw2019 we havent seen yet) or 2. if graves was killed or "dies" i can imagine a sort of schism in SC 1 part of the the company aligning with Specgru&TF141, another staying loyal to shepherd ( who maybe working the the ultranationalists i mean he did in the original trilogy), and maybe also working with KorTac, as in the Invasion mode KorTacs ai allies are Al-Qatala ( for some reason which even contradicts some operators backstory like Zeus' for instance.) or 5. they kinda split into the own factions like Velikans occupying Building 21 and other elements of SC taking control of Ashika island.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +1

      They’re definitely not working for kortac also shepherd never worked with the ultranationalists my guess is they’re working with specgru while the DMZ factions are working for shepherd

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @yawsanandreas2237
      @yawsanandreas2237 Год назад +1

      i meant in the original trilogy shepherd helped makarov orchestrate the "No Russian" and to be honest the "working for KorTac was pretty much just a shot in the dark cause we dont know anything about them even though they're one of the only 2 multiplayer factions

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +1

      @@yawsanandreas2237 the only thing we know is that kortac is Russian and specgru is American

  • @thefatboisupreme
    @thefatboisupreme Год назад +28

    i am hoping that they will release more Shadow Company skins and maybe a Philip Graves operator would be sick

    • @CDNBreadDogs
      @CDNBreadDogs Год назад +7

      They might do the same thing they did with Alex in 2019, reveal Graves survived by adding him as a season pass operator

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +1

      @@CDNBreadDogs maybe in season 3 and have Roach in season 2

    • @CDNBreadDogs
      @CDNBreadDogs Год назад +1

      @@Deathmare235 they already have a season 2 operator, Ronin

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +1

      @@CDNBreadDogs in raids maybe

    • @My_Most_Honest_Reaction
      @My_Most_Honest_Reaction Год назад +1

      ​@CDNBreadDogs season 5 be like:

  • @stevenabsolom1188
    @stevenabsolom1188 Год назад +45

    The "Barrage" operator skin has a Shadow Company patch on his shoulder. I'm really hoping this is a sign that we may ally with Shadow Company again in the future. I really didn't like how they went from good guys to bad guys so quickly. It would make sense for them to team up with 141 to fight Makarov.

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +11

      I’m guessing they’re with specgru since they’re a us backed group

    • @thecd10
      @thecd10 Год назад

      It was more of a panic move, since if people found out they were partially at fault for terrorist getting their hands on American missles, they would suffered severe consequences for it. They wanted to clean up all the evidence they could find and make sure nobody knew.

    • @elraptorgamer08
      @elraptorgamer08 Год назад +2

      Yes we need this

    • @Lung-Stealer
      @Lung-Stealer Год назад +2

      Jit predicted the future

    • @andrewwitham8493
      @andrewwitham8493 Год назад +2

      But Graves is Kortac on the operator selection menu...

  • @jaxandercoliverr7408
    @jaxandercoliverr7408 Год назад +9

    I liked this before it even started. I was waiting so long. THANK YOU!

  • @Ranger8275
    @Ranger8275 Год назад +27

    Shadow company is def my favorite video game faction

  • @mercifulsamurai1
    @mercifulsamurai1 Год назад +1

    Shadow company was never evil, they were mercenary group for hire for General Shepherd, they were following orders

  • @Madness-animations
    @Madness-animations Год назад +2

    *General Shepard sends his regards*
    The moment the text turns red it’s a whole new story

  • @itzyaboyxee
    @itzyaboyxee Год назад +8

    Coldest PMC group🥶

  • @tr3r3xx65
    @tr3r3xx65 Год назад +12

    We need more Shadow Company skins in MWII

  • @k.duelist4913
    @k.duelist4913 Год назад +3

    06:11 Bruh....it's Major Hassan lol 😆

  • @lovesxckness
    @lovesxckness Год назад +2

    I miss verdansk patrolling it with velikan, shadow soldiers, lerch and roze.

  • @unluckymindlessmole5138
    @unluckymindlessmole5138 Год назад +4

    personally, i wanna see a sort of event where u choose between Konni or Shadow, would be interesting

  • @rics0982
    @rics0982 Год назад +3

    7:16 Makarov's PMC

    • @yesbutno489
      @yesbutno489 Год назад

      No haki mask no makarov pmc dddd

  • @Breakaway01
    @Breakaway01 Год назад +7

    How many of you think that Pvt Allen must’ve told Laswell about the missing missiles that Shepherd wanted to sell that’s my theory

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад +2

      Tf is this?

    • @Breakaway01
      @Breakaway01 Год назад

      @@Deathmare235 The soldier that you play as in OG MW2 2009

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      @@Breakaway01 ah yes I remember playing as a women in the old mws

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      Wtf does Allen have to do with the story

    • @agentlinrov1474
      @agentlinrov1474 Год назад

      ​@@Deathmare235 Pvt. Allen is a guy... how did you mix it up?

  • @ItsCoyoteBtw
    @ItsCoyoteBtw Год назад +5

    This is gonna be fire

    • @ItsCoyoteBtw
      @ItsCoyoteBtw Год назад +2

      @@chazzz. wym bro I loved shadow company

    • @ItsCoyoteBtw
      @ItsCoyoteBtw Год назад +3

      @@chazzz. um yes Fortnite kid

  • @almost_no_brain_cells_left
    @almost_no_brain_cells_left Год назад

    I think graves is alive because I heard a noise that sounded like a piece of metal getting broke which could mean he broke a weak part of the tank and got out and is still alive

    • @warchipmunk0599
      @warchipmunk0599 Год назад +2

      He’s been confirmed to be alive for like a month now lol. Turns out he wasn’t in the tank.

  • @Grudgebearer4life
    @Grudgebearer4life Год назад +8

    No matter how much cod games enrage me lately, I’m still greatly appreciative of the lore vids👍 keep up the good work sir

  • @GhostChild808
    @GhostChild808 Год назад +3

    It'd be a nice plot twist that Velikan is really Phillip Graves. XD

    • @ricardoortiz8370
      @ricardoortiz8370 Год назад +2

      It wouldn't make sense cause velikan is in building 21 and graves is dead

    • @vukberbakov344
      @vukberbakov344 Год назад

      @@ricardoortiz8370And velikan was in mw19,before graves

  • @darthrevan-
    @darthrevan- Год назад +1

    Shadow company is probably my favorite villain organization

  • @jonathanclark140
    @jonathanclark140 Год назад +2

    When you think about it shadow company seizing the base is just illegal

  • @rataide99
    @rataide99 Год назад +3

    Not really on topic but anyone else disappointed that we barely get any story on whats going on in Al Mazrah and the factions like Specgru/Kortak and the DMZ mission handlers ??
    MW2019 did a really good job setting up the coalition and allegiance and Verdansk but this time around there seems like barely anything is given context

  • @craigwheatley9373
    @craigwheatley9373 Год назад +4

    Wish we got more SC outfits. I ran into some the other day in WZ running the sniper outfits from Campaign mode. I haven’t seen them in the store so I’m thinking it’s like the klaus one at Christmas I was killed by a cheater and his squad all wearing the outfits and they haven’t even released yet.

    • @th3thatguy631
      @th3thatguy631 Год назад +1

      SC sniper is what you get for getting a nuke in warzone

  • @kastovianHuman
    @kastovianHuman Год назад +4

    Zaya Observatory is now under the control of the armored forces of URA

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      URA has no armed forces it’s a shithole

    • @captainprice6087
      @captainprice6087 Год назад +1

      I don’t think it is because spec ops is canon and in the spec ops mission the marines successfully defended zaya Observatory and that was al-quatala that attacked the observatory so no

    • @kastovianHuman
      @kastovianHuman Год назад

      @@captainprice6087 with new map dome you can see that they are controlling the place and turned them to a defense operations center

    • @kastovianHuman
      @kastovianHuman Год назад

      @@Deathmare235 look at the current dome map

  • @Young_Native_Gee
    @Young_Native_Gee Год назад +11

    I think theres a bigger backstory of SC because they controlling building 21 (wich is located in verdansk according to the tac map and roads that match verdansk perfecly) and ashika island,question is: why? Is it link with the zombie outbreak at the end of verdansk? So many theories and questions about that group

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @thegreenpatriot8896
      @thegreenpatriot8896 Год назад +1

      Building 21 is in Al-Mazrah

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      @@thegreenpatriot8896 no

    • @michaeljohn6357
      @michaeljohn6357 Год назад +10

      The zombie storyline of verdansk has nothing to do with the overal mw story. Not canon

    • @Non8bitgamer
      @Non8bitgamer Год назад +3

      They are now also in al mazrah (at sattiq caves and you can see them fighting AQ) only in dmz btw

  • @hypehippo8371
    @hypehippo8371 Год назад +1

    there problaby being led by camander Lerch

  • @amygamerx8305
    @amygamerx8305 Год назад +3

    Shadow Company my favorite ♥️♥️♥️

  • @marcleslac2413
    @marcleslac2413 Год назад

    Velikan IS BACK! HELL YEA I NEED MY DOSE OF HRR HRR HRRRRRS BACK

  • @lilseansolo9678
    @lilseansolo9678 Год назад +1

    Shadow company is probably one of the best anti villain groups ever

  • @sladehd6197
    @sladehd6197 Год назад +5

    Hope there was Shepherd's death would be like breaking bads season 5

  • @Jonastice
    @Jonastice Год назад +3

    I'm much more curious why Velikan can't say words or any statements. Maybe he has a jaw damage but able to battle because of his mouth guard helmet?

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      Or he just doesn’t want to talk

    • @ricardoortiz8370
      @ricardoortiz8370 Год назад +1

      I mean he dont talk and u can tell by the bundle in mw 2019 he only got a laughing voice lines that's pretty much it

  • @MANNYY196
    @MANNYY196 Год назад +2

    Favourite series on all of yt fr

  • @TheshadowCompanyoperator
    @TheshadowCompanyoperator Год назад +1

    Graves I like it I want it so I’m taking it :)

  • @CrackaPackify
    @CrackaPackify Год назад +1

    It was good to see the Shadows getting a little more airtime in this version. Its always a bit weird hearinf American voices chatter bsck to you as youre firing on them

  • @micoolkidfilms3270
    @micoolkidfilms3270 Год назад +1

    In the mission where the shadow company tries to defend the missiles convoy and is attacked by “Russian PMC’s”. Why tf were the radio chatter for konni PMC in Spanish?

  • @ryquelwalker6209
    @ryquelwalker6209 Год назад +2

    Cod need to release some more story oriented skins it feels like 141 aren’t even apart of the game anymore it’s so many good skins for ghost from the campaign he is the star of the game with only one skin out

  • @essasin000jr
    @essasin000jr Год назад

    Full story declaration was pretty early. There's more lol

  • @PurveyorTube
    @PurveyorTube Год назад

    Velikans back baby!!!

  • @Zellar100
    @Zellar100 Год назад +2

    Shadow company on top. I need a Graves op skin

  • @kytim89
    @kytim89 Год назад +1

    Could you do a video on where you think the Modern Warfare story is heading next?

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      No one knows maybe Roach comes back this season graves in the next

  • @GameOver-226
    @GameOver-226 Год назад +7

    Hassan is a Quds Force Major, not a General.

    • @chazzz.
      @chazzz. Год назад

      No

    • @NCRDesertRanger
      @NCRDesertRanger Год назад

      @@chazzz. Hey Charles screw you

    • @kastovianHuman
      @kastovianHuman Год назад +1

      @@chazzz. yes

    • @TheShapeshiftingReptilian
      @TheShapeshiftingReptilian Год назад

      ​@@kastovianHuman no

    • @Delta_._
      @Delta_._ Год назад +2

      Hassan is a major. At the cutscene where TF141 and shadow company interrogate him after the AC130 missions graves calls him "major"
      On a website it also says his rank is major

  • @jordan23fann
    @jordan23fann Год назад

    DUDEEEE VELIKAN COMING BACK IS GOAT!!!!!

  • @Kozak-s7b
    @Kozak-s7b 8 часов назад

    Get revenge from konni group for taking all of our men from the convoy and taking the missiles

  • @anotniceeman4710
    @anotniceeman4710 Год назад

    I freaked out seeing graves name turn red

  • @rupvictoria3017
    @rupvictoria3017 Год назад +1

    shadow company is totally the best faction in call of the duty 🤙🏽

  • @muronelkaz
    @muronelkaz Год назад +1

    7:00 A US general 'let' American missiles fall into hostile hands... like this somehow would have consequences if that went public so he then tracks down the missiles with the actual military + PMC and then cuts out the actual military because they can't know?
    Shepard was supplying an enemy of Russia, seemingly a US ally, and the PMC doing the logistics was ambushed... considering US history this seems like an incredibly stupid way to write a US general or PMC being the bad guys.

  • @captainlock446
    @captainlock446 Год назад +1

    The AC-130 is unfortunately the same Model as it was in Warzone 2019

  • @gdy2844
    @gdy2844 Год назад +2

    love ur vids man always hit

  • @vqcoupe363
    @vqcoupe363 Год назад

    @inkslasher is the plane crash site, the same as the plane crash in the map Afghan, from the OG MW2?

  • @TheshadowCompanyoperator
    @TheshadowCompanyoperator Год назад +2

    Bro thinks he’s the IRS

  • @goofyahhgamer35productions39
    @goofyahhgamer35productions39 Год назад +2

    Danger Close

  • @pigspeakspig
    @pigspeakspig Год назад

    (Inkslasher if you ever see this) my guess is the new one who is leading. (If graves is K.I.A) lerch might've taken over

  • @greenghost5009
    @greenghost5009 Год назад +1

    I want shadow company to get they lick back on konni pmc

  • @OGJason99
    @OGJason99 Год назад

    Your mic sounds very different to your other videos and are you at a different set up?

  • @godsarmy1355
    @godsarmy1355 Год назад

    I think shadow company are the United States rangers from the original mw2

  • @mythofdurrt962
    @mythofdurrt962 Год назад

    in dmz the bomb maker is the commander on ashika

  • @lucasmorris7540
    @lucasmorris7540 Год назад

    I love Shadow Company

  • @noble2311
    @noble2311 Год назад

    Idc if he’s “dead” I want graves as an operator

  • @cheems876
    @cheems876 Год назад +2

    I want graves's operator in season 3

  • @lI-nxluv-Il
    @lI-nxluv-Il Год назад +1

    So is shadow company just blackwater/academi?

  • @Afono_ilegal
    @Afono_ilegal Год назад +1

    Shepherd is good
    I mean i get paid to say that

  • @cuthbert_the_austerity
    @cuthbert_the_austerity Год назад

    Who noticed the voice sounds like John price's on the airplane

  • @voodoo-1210
    @voodoo-1210 Год назад

    Please make a DMZ story video

  • @kamalalkhaffaf5995
    @kamalalkhaffaf5995 Год назад

    Your channel is one of the best, but you need to work on sound and shooting angles + studio. You need to do some changes of how to direct the 10 minutes video.

  • @bradenparker3478
    @bradenparker3478 Год назад

    do we know if Imran Zakhaev is still alive? we saw price shoot victor but imran hasn’t been important in the reboot of the series

    • @Deathmare235
      @Deathmare235 Год назад

      They said he’s dead but he was shown shaking hands with Al Assad

  • @paolovivenzio5309
    @paolovivenzio5309 Год назад

    Notizie di mw3

  • @Shadow19801
    @Shadow19801 Год назад

    I love shadow company

  • @stayfrostystayvigilant144
    @stayfrostystayvigilant144 Год назад

    Graves is Velikan

  • @dmoneygamer7509
    @dmoneygamer7509 Год назад +2

    Wassup

  • @Bambikillers97
    @Bambikillers97 Год назад +1

    Idk bout y’all but I’m ghost 😂

  • @texturk6092
    @texturk6092 Год назад +1

    I want the shadows company milsim skins from 2019 in mw2

  • @30jenniferwomble
    @30jenniferwomble Год назад

    Seriously I need to know how to play War Zone on Call of Duty: Modern Warfare 2 ( current 😊)

  • @aaronrandrianjana8001
    @aaronrandrianjana8001 Год назад +1

    For those who want to vote for the return of Sandman and the metal team the Sgt Foley Yuri and Makarov do it Now

  • @Onatic7
    @Onatic7 Год назад

    I can't be the only one that thinks this guy is short

  • @ELmorroFRM215
    @ELmorroFRM215 Год назад

    2nd raid we find out that shadow kidnapped or took Alex

  • @chock1ng
    @chock1ng Год назад

    I like how They made the shadow Company outfits a lot more better then one outfit and bro I love this faction

  • @Alvinx27
    @Alvinx27 Год назад

    hope they bring back lerch

  • @Leandrolopez42293
    @Leandrolopez42293 Год назад

    what's going on with your setup

  • @paolovivenzio5309
    @paolovivenzio5309 Год назад

    Spettacolare

  • @SuperCorking
    @SuperCorking Год назад

    Where is Lerch?

  • @qakaqpaul
    @qakaqpaul Год назад

    Man you for some reason sound like Choas

  • @frostburn3736
    @frostburn3736 Год назад +2

    Still saving money for Shadow Company patch for my jacket.

  • @jeradpaulson771
    @jeradpaulson771 Год назад

    What? 8:04

  • @ImAceHi_N
    @ImAceHi_N Год назад

    Phillip Graves? Smash.

  • @sgt.kapkan6957
    @sgt.kapkan6957 Год назад +2

    Nice

  • @CevicheGato
    @CevicheGato Год назад +3

    Shadow Company is indeed a nefarious PMC. Like many PMCs can be.