It's always wonderful to watch professionals at work displaying their knowledge and skill with delicate instruments. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case in this video. Love these videos with Adam, keep them coming.
It's great to see how little Uncle Grumpy needs to know about his camera and still be International Landscape Photographer of the Year! There is hope for us all. :-)
Gavin and Uncle Grumpy, the Stan and Ollie of landscape photography. You two could start a war in an empty room! And like the others say, back button focus will save you some trouble.
Best day was when I was introduced to your channel. Now I avidly await all of your new videos knowing that I will not only be entertained but will also learn a thing or two. Now to keep saving my pennies so I might attend one of your workshops in the future.
What a funny video to watch after a hard day at work! Mr. Juicy and Uncle Grumpy arguing over a Nikon :-)! Great stuff, you just have to make more of these vids!
Great video Gavin, I would love to see this location with flowing water, it must be impressive. It was fascinating to see and hear you two chat about the D850. There were some interesting points you raised. With my D850, I have back button focusing set up so I can use both approaches (manual and autofocus) without the need to switch a dial and I have the back dial set to punch in to check focus. I believe 64 is the lowest native ISO for the sensor, 'L' or low uses software to simulate a lower ISO however you may lose some dynamic range, which with the image you took, probably didn't matter. Thanks for sharing!
Love back button focus. What I would really love is a d850 now. Love u guys when u get together. Good info.
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In live view you have the opportunity to use Silent mode, which allows you to take pictures completely without shaking the camera. Use this with the remote trigger and you are safe and the images will be razor sharp 😁
I've used Olympus, Fuji and Sony kit and found the focus assist / peaking to be 'off' on all of them. So a big thanks to you guys, I had been thinking it was me.
Gavin, my understanding is that ISO 64 is the native ISO for that sensor, and thus highest quality. The lower ISO is achieved through Nikon's interpolation algorithm, and though it may appear sharper, you could do the same with 64 image by manipulating sharpness and contrast in Lightroom. This same principal applies to expanded ISO settings. The sensors is not more sensitive, the camera simply runs the data through a different algorithm. So I'm led to believe by those far more informed by me.
This is almost correct, but it doesn't have anything to do with sharpness or contrast. What it does in the simulated ISO 32 mode is that it overexposes by one stop, then pulls back exposure by one stop. This will indeed give more data and detail in the shadows and midtones, at the expense of losing one stop of highlight data. If you're shooting in RAW, which I really hope anyone using a D850 is, you can achieve exactly the same by overexposing by one stop and setting exposure to -1 EV in Lightroom. Basically it's the same as exposing to the right, only you get more control over the highlights if you do it manually and choose just how much to the right you'll go.
Gavin, Sony 100% battery life 42 mins, that's okay, you could squeeze another 8 mins out of them if you stuff them down the front of your troosers, your haw maws --> (_)) will keep them nice and toastie, buy a pair of swimming shorts with the small pocket in the waist band, they will doubly useful seeing as you spend a fair amount of time falling in the water. Or if you are not that adventurous, when shooting in cold temperatures buy the small gel hand warmers, stick the batteries along side them in your backpack, unless you want to try both Gel and Batteries down the front of your troosers and become the Evel Knievel of the photography world.... great video again Gav.
Great banter as expected from you two! Great shirts you got selling, except I would of thought they would have the infamous 'window trademark' along with"Juicy!" :D
Programming your AE-L/AF-L button to back button focus, and the OK button to toggle in and out of 100% mag simplifies life for those of us with subpar eyes and therefore use autofocus. With the high quality screen of the D750, like the 850, I've become a Live View believer for landscape imaging. Thank you for my weekly or twice weekly dose of photo laughs, you guys are fun!
Great video. Keep up the good work chaps. :-) Just a couple of things though. I think it has been said below, but the lowest numbered ISO in all cameras are normally where the highest quality for noise and dynamic range are, though the D850 seems to have pretty similar DR on the 'Lo' settings to ISO 64. The timer should be able to be set to 10 seconds in the menu if that is preferable. And I would always use a remote above the Timer if I have it with me. :-) The camera should be more accurate to focus in Liveview as it is using the contrast detection, which though slower to focus, is more accurate. It is normally better than my old eyes. I always magnify the area of focus to fill the the LCD. The focus point fills the whole screen, and I either touch to focus or use the AF On button and it is a bit easier to see that is has got it right by the box turning green, and the scene hopefully looking sharp. ;-) lol
You can also assign the AF only to the AF-on button and not on the shutter release, so you can auto-focus and then it doesn't change when you take shots. This has the advantage that you can't forget to turn the AF back on when you net time want to refocus and don't notice that it actually didn't focus because it was still on manual
Only recently found your channel but I binge watch all your videos. Great fun to watch and also learn along the way. I look forward to your next one. Also Adam Gibbs is genius you two have great chemistry together.
ISO L1 without focus peaking, while using auto focus with back button focus gives me the sharpest, images with less noise in my D850 as well. I love my D850 and I was excited about the focus peaking function but I found it to be far less than optimal.
"You've let me down with your length" 😂 If Adam hadn't bought the 'cheap' f/4 and gone for f/2.8 he could have won you over with his girth 😂 Sorry, I'll get my coat 🚖
I use the back focus on my Hasselblad X1D. I learned the technique from a Nikon user, so I presume you can do this on any "800" series Nikon. Set the camera to manual focus, then use the back focus. It will auto focus even though you're in manual focus. THEN...enlarge to manually tweak the focus if necessary, then fire the shutter. The "cool" thing here is that when you fire the shutter, the camera WILL NOT refocus.
Thanks for this unscientific test of sharpness and quality with the ISO ;). I actually was using ISO 100 or 200 as I thought it's enough for good quality. So I'll try my lowest settings at my next photo trip
Have the same problem as Adam, need reading glasses, always had trouble getting tack sharp pics. Then I discovered BBF ( back button focus) Best thing since sliced bread !!!! Great for solving focus issues. ✅👍🏼 Great video, as always 🙏✅👍🏼😊
Lol you guys are hilarious together. Poor uncle grumpy looking nervously protective of his precious. I use a Canon, I always thought that the mirror was locked up when live mode was off and so it clicks real fast and doesn't shake while taking the shot. Whereas if my live view was on and I took the shot it would take it slower. Very funny and informative, thank you. 😊
Hilarious, the Abbot and Costello of YT photography! I also shoot with a D850 and just started using the L1 ISO setting (which I believe is meant to indicate 1 stop lower sensor gain than the 64. The camera also has a L.7 and L.3. If I forget my remote release, I set the self timer to 10 sec to let the tripod settle down. Thanks for the belly laugh and some good information in the process. Cheers from BC
Live View + QC + silent view mode 1 is the best settings for the d850 when shooting landscapes. Luv my d850 and if you ever get the chance try the irix lens range.
I think I stay with my A7! Help from the viewers, I enjoyed the video. I learned a little and had fun watching you two. Next time give Uncle Grumpy the Sony to work with. Bring him over to the dark side, no mirror! LOL
Love you two and the D850! It was sort of an impulse buy for me and the 2nd best impulse buy I ever made. The 1st?.............................................. But seriously. Love watching both of your youtubes. I even left Thomas Heaton for you two. (Kinda. I am saving Heaton for a good binge)
Gavin, I find if I want the sharpest from the D850 is to set the live view to silent mode 1. It then records right from the sensor with no moving parts, shutter or mirror. Since it records line by line if you are taking a picture of a spinning propeller it can warp the blade on the image. I don't know about the Canadian Rockies but the Rockies here in Colorado sit pretty still so that is not a problem. (Live view ON-press the i-set SL to 1-using the selector and button above.) I use the self timer at 5s and that seems give it time to settle. PS if you set the # of shots under self timer to 2 it will take all of a bracket of shots 3,5,7 or what ever. so one press and all sots of the bracket are taken. I use these settings a bunch and they seem to get those Juicy shots the most.
Great fun! I've got mine setup for back button focus, if I auto-focus then forget to switch over to manual the focus still stays where I put it. Also less likely to damage anything by forgetting to turn auto off on the camera body when using some screw drive lenses.
Fantastic! I freaking love you guys. I refuse to watch another RUclips photography video that doesn't include tips on caressing the knob, doing it manually and lengths that simply aren't long enough.
I'm a man that will have to explain to my kids why I'm yelling "it's sharp as shit!" after every photo. Lol... but seriously, that one is going to stick. May make a t-shirt...
The D850 in Liveview can also use an electronic shutter so there's no mirror vibration at all. You have to set it to silent mode. Neat for situations like this.
One of those videos that I’ll need to watch again just for the laughs. You make a good point though about trying things out just to see what works and what doesn’t. I have the D810 and I’ve never gone below ISO 64 because I have read that image quality suffers. Looks like I need to try it just to see for myself. Thanks for the tips and the laughs Gavin. You guys rock!
I am a Canon shooter watching a Sony shooter doing a test shoot on a Nikon lol. But everything you and Adam do turns to gold and the video was hilarious and informative. Brilliant! 👍 P.S The photos were pretty shite though.
For comparisons like at the end just make the raw files downloadable 🥰. The L ISO does some tweaking, but please don’t ask me what exactly, I never tested it. Base ISO is 64, like 100 on your 7RM4. I doubt the tweaking of the virtual low ISO rates truly increase image quality... NEF has super shadow details in the lossless compressed raw, maybe this is somehow utilised for the L ISOs. FYC (I’m pretty sure you already know that): ARW is not available lossless compressed. The compressed ARW of your 7RM4 is not lossless and reduces ARW to 12 bits and dramatic loss of shadow information. BTW: have them both, 7RM4 and D850 😉😇. For landscape, the 16 bits of GFX are spicy. No more exposure blending. Awesome shadow details. Forget expose to the right with that GFX. Expose to the highlights and you’re good. Ahhhh, yes, RAF are also lossless compressed available 🤩
Funny stuff from 'The Tetley Twins" as always Gavin...without trying to sound too much like a geeky nerd ! (but I do have a Nikon D810) you can tell Dr Grumps that he can easily change his shutter delay time to 5, 10 or 20 seconds in the Custom Settings menu under Timers/Self Timer ..and I have found the same on my 70-200mm f2.8 that 2 secs often not enough..I use 5 secs and that seems to work but if he also uses Live View zoomed in when he's shooting slow exposures you can see the vibration slow (and of course that bloody great hefty mirror is taken out of the equation) and then press the shutter which together with it's 5 sec delay is usually sufficient to prevent tears before bedtime !! ...unless its windy of course in which case you just give up and use your iPhone !! I could go Ubernerd on the native iso64 vs L0.3/7/1 etc but my understanding is that the "L's" basically just expose to the right more etc then drag it back in camera but I see BisonFlyer24 below has answered it ...BTW did you notice Gavin that despite ALL that live viewing and general fannying around there was LOADS of battery life left !!?? just saying !
"This! This is the best picture this camera has ever taken!"
-"Oh? ... Let's put a card into it then."
"...."
It's always wonderful to watch professionals at work displaying their knowledge and skill with delicate instruments. Unfortunately, that wasn't the case in this video. Love these videos with Adam, keep them coming.
That's funny.
It's great to see how little Uncle Grumpy needs to know about his camera and still be International Landscape Photographer of the Year! There is hope for us all. :-)
You guys are the Laurel and Hardy of YT photographers. Love these collab vids.
I feel Grumpy's pain with needing glasses to focus.
Gavin and Uncle Grumpy, the Stan and Ollie of landscape photography. You two could start a war in an empty room! And like the others say, back button focus will save you some trouble.
Congrats to Adam on winning landscape photographer of the year recently.
You could always set up back button focus, then when you use autofocus it stays locked when you take your image until you press the bbf again
what he said ^^ back button focus changed my life..
Excellent.
Yeah back button is the way to go for sure dudes.
You beat me to it. BBF Baby.
Ditto!
Thanks for recognising that some of us auld fellas don't have the best eyes and struggle with making sure things are in focus.
Your moderately filthy sense of humor is the reason this is one of my favorite channels. Great balance of humor and formal photography content.
16 minutes of shear joy, entertainment, fun, and then some, brilliant, thanks guys.
Best day was when I was introduced to your channel. Now I avidly await all of your new videos knowing that I will not only be entertained but will also learn a thing or two. Now to keep saving my pennies so I might attend one of your workshops in the future.
A WISE investment Penny ;)
I don’t know why, but this is one of the best videos on RUclips! Froth on lads
The two of you together are priceless.
What a funny video to watch after a hard day at work! Mr. Juicy and Uncle Grumpy arguing over a Nikon :-)! Great stuff, you just have to make more of these vids!
Back button focusing FTW
You gents are great together! Even managed to take a picture...
You two, you can turn a crappy day, into 17 minutes of shear horror :-D - fantastic video.
This is the best! You guys and your banter is truly the best.
Flippy screen - so technical! Love it.
My understanding waas that the best quality was from the native ISO which on the D850 is 64, Li is an electronically adjusted ISO same as 100 etc.
Great video Gavin, I would love to see this location with flowing water, it must be impressive. It was fascinating to see and hear you two chat about the D850. There were some interesting points you raised. With my D850, I have back button focusing set up so I can use both approaches (manual and autofocus) without the need to switch a dial and I have the back dial set to punch in to check focus. I believe 64 is the lowest native ISO for the sensor, 'L' or low uses software to simulate a lower ISO however you may lose some dynamic range, which with the image you took, probably didn't matter. Thanks for sharing!
Love back button focus. What I would really love is a d850 now. Love u guys when u get together. Good info.
In live view you have the opportunity to use Silent mode, which allows you to take pictures completely without shaking the camera. Use this with the remote trigger and you are safe and the images will be razor sharp 😁
Uncle Grumpy's glasses are just bonkers!!
I've used Olympus, Fuji and Sony kit and found the focus assist / peaking to be 'off' on all of them. So a big thanks to you guys, I had been thinking it was me.
I could never go on a workshop with you two...I would be absolutely "creased" (doubled over laughing) the whole time...
Thanks Gavin. I have wondered about that L1 setting. Good advice about creating your own tests with your gear.
Adam Gibbs is awesome .You two are great.Keep having fun...
How did these two British comedians end up in Canada? Love the way you guys make a tutorial fun!
Brilliant guys!! Nice of uncle grumpy to lend you his gear, after all he is a star!! 🇬🇧🇨🇦🇬🇧
Gavin has the best laugh. Keeps me smiling 👍
I binge watched ALL of your videos, now what ? :)
Like, subscribe and buy the merch, clearly ;)
start over I do the same 😂
Totally enjoyed watching this! You guys are great together and so fun to watch! Your workshop filled up fast! Cheers guys!
Did I see a camera conspiracies motion when the flippy screen was mentioned?
you did ;)
Gavin, my understanding is that ISO 64 is the native ISO for that sensor, and thus highest quality. The lower ISO is achieved through Nikon's interpolation algorithm, and though it may appear sharper, you could do the same with 64 image by manipulating sharpness and contrast in Lightroom. This same principal applies to expanded ISO settings. The sensors is not more sensitive, the camera simply runs the data through a different algorithm. So I'm led to believe by those far more informed by me.
I'd like to experiment more with this and get to the bottom of it.
This is almost correct, but it doesn't have anything to do with sharpness or contrast. What it does in the simulated ISO 32 mode is that it overexposes by one stop, then pulls back exposure by one stop. This will indeed give more data and detail in the shadows and midtones, at the expense of losing one stop of highlight data. If you're shooting in RAW, which I really hope anyone using a D850 is, you can achieve exactly the same by overexposing by one stop and setting exposure to -1 EV in Lightroom. Basically it's the same as exposing to the right, only you get more control over the highlights if you do it manually and choose just how much to the right you'll go.
@@fototripper look up the Alyn Wallace vlog on iso invariance, it is mind blowing
Favorite vlog... keep it up Gavin. An absolutely juicy mix of humor & education!
Love this kind of videos...uncle grumpy is so great guy ...
I didn't understand what happened but I enjoyed watching it ♥️
Gavin, Sony 100% battery life 42 mins, that's okay, you could squeeze another 8 mins out of them if you stuff them down the front of your troosers, your haw maws --> (_)) will keep them nice and toastie, buy a pair of swimming shorts with the small pocket in the waist band, they will doubly useful seeing as you spend a fair amount of time falling in the water. Or if you are not that adventurous, when shooting in cold temperatures buy the small gel hand warmers, stick the batteries along side them in your backpack, unless you want to try both Gel and Batteries down the front of your troosers and become the Evel Knievel of the photography world.... great video again Gav.
I really enjoy your videos...you and Adam work wonderfully together!
With witty teachers, even the technique of using camera is funny and interesting. 👍 👏 Thank you Gavin and Adam 🙏 All the best from Mississauga, ON 🇨🇦
Great banter as expected from you two!
Great shirts you got selling, except I would of thought they would have the infamous 'window trademark' along with"Juicy!" :D
Juicy is coming soon!
@@fototripper I'll be on the watch for it ;)
Always look forward to the Gavin and Adam's comedy show
Thoroughly enjoyable video's, great laugh's but more importantly great information. By far and away the best double act in photography.
I chose to see your video before Thomas's.. 2 mins in & I see Adam dabbing... I think I made the right choice.. 😁
Thomas' video is pretty great too. He doesn't have a juicy d850 in it though.
@@alistaircassidy ah cut him a break, he doesn't know any better!
That was a very informative video but a complete giggle too. Awesome.
I like your sense of humor, and the shuttersuond must be perfect......it is a soundmodul🤣🤣🤣😉👍
I dunno, reconsidering that June workshop I booked with you two as instructors after seeing this. Just kidding, can't wait! ;-)
hahahah
Great work as usual guys love your work entertaining and technically useful…as always Cheers
Hardcastle and Gibbs, sounds like a British detective show
or two shady lawyers
@@fototripper could not be lawyers, you are not moving on your belly!
Programming your AE-L/AF-L button to back button focus, and the OK button to toggle in and out of 100% mag simplifies life for those of us with subpar eyes and therefore use autofocus. With the high quality screen of the D750, like the 850, I've become a Live View believer for landscape imaging. Thank you for my weekly or twice weekly dose of photo laughs, you guys are fun!
You guys are hilarious. I really enjoy your interactions and your sense of humor!
Fantastic video! Brilliant chemistry between you two.
Great video. Keep up the good work chaps. :-)
Just a couple of things though. I think it has been said below, but the lowest numbered ISO in all cameras are normally where the highest quality for noise and dynamic range are, though the D850 seems to have pretty similar DR on the 'Lo' settings to ISO 64.
The timer should be able to be set to 10 seconds in the menu if that is preferable. And I would always use a remote above the Timer if I have it with me. :-)
The camera should be more accurate to focus in Liveview as it is using the contrast detection, which though slower to focus, is more accurate. It is normally better than my old eyes. I always magnify the area of focus to fill the the LCD. The focus point fills the whole screen, and I either touch to focus or use the AF On button and it is a bit easier to see that is has got it right by the box turning green, and the scene hopefully looking sharp. ;-) lol
You can also assign the AF only to the AF-on button and not on the shutter release, so you can auto-focus and then it doesn't change when you take shots. This has the advantage that you can't forget to turn the AF back on when you net time want to refocus and don't notice that it actually didn't focus because it was still on manual
Another great and informative video. You two are the absolute tops!
Great video Gavin and helpful tips as I’m also a NIKON user
I use back button focus so my focus does not change with shutter. You guys are funny.
As an owner of Nikon DSLR I thank you for this video! Great stuff!
Only recently found your channel but I binge watch all your videos. Great fun to watch and also learn along the way. I look forward to your next one. Also Adam Gibbs is genius you two have great chemistry together.
My favorite Photographers! You guys are are Awesome! Thanks for another entertaining and educational video!
ISO L1 without focus peaking, while using auto focus with back button focus gives me the sharpest, images with less noise in my D850 as well. I love my D850 and I was excited about the focus peaking function but I found it to be far less than optimal.
"You've let me down with your length" 😂 If Adam hadn't bought the 'cheap' f/4 and gone for f/2.8 he could have won you over with his girth 😂 Sorry, I'll get my coat 🚖
I use the back focus on my Hasselblad X1D. I learned the technique from a Nikon user, so I presume you can do this on any "800" series Nikon. Set the camera to manual focus, then use the back focus. It will auto focus even though you're in manual focus. THEN...enlarge to manually tweak the focus if necessary, then fire the shutter. The "cool" thing here is that when you fire the shutter, the camera WILL NOT refocus.
Excellent tip for Nikon users.
Yes, but it should also work for any camera platform that offers a back focus button.
Good grief that was hilarious. . . Great episode Gavin (and Adam)!
Thanks for this unscientific test of sharpness and quality with the ISO ;). I actually was using ISO 100 or 200 as I thought it's enough for good quality. So I'll try my lowest settings at my next photo trip
Thanks for the Info on the iso 31........ slide it in and caress the knob ........ Juicy
Have the same problem as Adam, need reading glasses, always had trouble getting tack sharp pics.
Then I discovered BBF ( back button focus) Best thing since sliced bread !!!! Great for solving focus issues. ✅👍🏼 Great video, as always 🙏✅👍🏼😊
As per usual very entertaining. You guys are hilarious together.... Brilliant!
Even though I am a Dieing breed of Pentaxiona I really enjoyed the video. fairplay lads.
Hilarious! but great advice about focus & sharpness
Love these videos you do together.
You guys are great together, super fun to watch! Keep it up
Lol you guys are hilarious together. Poor uncle grumpy looking nervously protective of his precious. I use a Canon, I always thought that the mirror was locked up when live mode was off and so it clicks real fast and doesn't shake while taking the shot. Whereas if my live view was on and I took the shot it would take it slower. Very funny and informative, thank you. 😊
Hilarious, the Abbot and Costello of YT photography! I also shoot with a D850 and just started using the L1 ISO setting (which I believe is meant to indicate 1 stop lower sensor gain than the 64. The camera also has a L.7 and L.3. If I forget my remote release, I set the self timer to 10 sec to let the tripod settle down. Thanks for the belly laugh and some good information in the process. Cheers from BC
Ahh, Mr Juicy and Uncle Grumpy with coffee in hand, off to start my day :-)
Live View + QC + silent view mode 1 is the best settings for the d850 when shooting landscapes. Luv my d850 and if you ever get the chance try the irix lens range.
Shits way better than a iPhone X that I use to shoot my photos lol. Thank you for uploading another great video with grumpysaurus
I think I stay with my A7! Help from the viewers, I enjoyed the video. I learned a little and had fun watching you two. Next time give Uncle Grumpy the Sony to work with. Bring him over to the dark side, no mirror! LOL
Good idea.
Love you two and the D850! It was sort of an impulse buy for me and the 2nd best impulse buy I ever made. The 1st?..............................................
But seriously. Love watching both of your youtubes. I even left Thomas Heaton for you two. (Kinda. I am saving Heaton for a good binge)
That lens wipe is really getting some use. Great video, thanks guys.
Excellent - enjoyable and informative as ever.
Gavin, I find if I want the sharpest from the D850 is to set the live view to silent mode 1. It then records right from the sensor with no moving parts, shutter or mirror. Since it records line by line if you are taking a picture of a spinning propeller it can warp the blade on the image. I don't know about the Canadian Rockies but the Rockies here in Colorado sit pretty still so that is not a problem. (Live view ON-press the i-set SL to 1-using the selector and button above.) I use the self timer at 5s and that seems give it time to settle.
PS if you set the # of shots under self timer to 2 it will take all of a bracket of shots 3,5,7 or what ever. so one press and all sots of the bracket are taken. I use these settings a bunch and they seem to get those Juicy shots the most.
Great video 😁 I really love your guys channel 😀👍 Always fun to watch and learn from! Motivates me to go shoot more so thank you!
I suppose i should put a card in Love the video great tips
Loved the subtle not subtle Camera Conspercies call out.
This is too funny you two are great together!
I really enjoy your channel and Uncle Grumpy's! Great info today! I shoot Nikon. The two of you make a great team !
Auto focus with back button focus ftw :) Best of both worlds :D Another enjoyable video lads
Great fun! I've got mine setup for back button focus, if I auto-focus then forget to switch over to manual the focus still stays where I put it. Also less likely to damage anything by forgetting to turn auto off on the camera body when using some screw drive lenses.
Fantastic! I freaking love you guys. I refuse to watch another RUclips photography video that doesn't include tips on caressing the knob, doing it manually and lengths that simply aren't long enough.
You are a man of discerning tastes!
I'm a man that will have to explain to my kids why I'm yelling "it's sharp as shit!" after every photo. Lol... but seriously, that one is going to stick. May make a t-shirt...
You just gave me an idea ;) @@critterstocosmos
I want the first one!!!
stay tuned @@critterstocosmos
The D850 in Liveview can also use an electronic shutter so there's no mirror vibration at all. You have to set it to silent mode. Neat for situations like this.
What an interesting pair of glasses on Adam. I've never seen the two lenses separate in that fashion before (2:09).
One of those videos that I’ll need to watch again just for the laughs. You make a good point though about trying things out just to see what works and what doesn’t. I have the D810 and I’ve never gone below ISO 64 because I have read that image quality suffers. Looks like I need to try it just to see for myself. Thanks for the tips and the laughs Gavin. You guys rock!
that was funny, could watch this kind of stuff every day 😀
I am a Canon shooter watching a Sony shooter doing a test shoot on a Nikon lol. But everything you and Adam do turns to gold and the video was hilarious and informative. Brilliant! 👍 P.S The photos were pretty shite though.
You 2 guys crack me up. Would love to spend a day in the field with you it would be a hoot 😂
Very nice video. Thanks! :)
For comparisons like at the end just make the raw files downloadable 🥰. The L ISO does some tweaking, but please don’t ask me what exactly, I never tested it. Base ISO is 64, like 100 on your 7RM4. I doubt the tweaking of the virtual low ISO rates truly increase image quality... NEF has super shadow details in the lossless compressed raw, maybe this is somehow utilised for the L ISOs. FYC (I’m pretty sure you already know that): ARW is not available lossless compressed. The compressed ARW of your 7RM4 is not lossless and reduces ARW to 12 bits and dramatic loss of shadow information. BTW: have them both, 7RM4 and D850 😉😇. For landscape, the 16 bits of GFX are spicy. No more exposure blending. Awesome shadow details. Forget expose to the right with that GFX. Expose to the highlights and you’re good. Ahhhh, yes, RAF are also lossless compressed available 🤩
Funny stuff from 'The Tetley Twins" as always Gavin...without trying to sound too much like a geeky nerd ! (but I do have a Nikon D810) you can tell Dr Grumps that he can easily change his shutter delay time to 5, 10 or 20 seconds in the Custom Settings menu under Timers/Self Timer ..and I have found the same on my 70-200mm f2.8 that 2 secs often not enough..I use 5 secs and that seems to work but if he also uses Live View zoomed in when he's shooting slow exposures you can see the vibration slow (and of course that bloody great hefty mirror is taken out of the equation) and then press the shutter which together with it's 5 sec delay is usually sufficient to prevent tears before bedtime !! ...unless its windy of course in which case you just give up and use your iPhone !! I could go Ubernerd on the native iso64 vs L0.3/7/1 etc but my understanding is that the "L's" basically just expose to the right more etc then drag it back in camera but I see BisonFlyer24 below has answered it ...BTW did you notice Gavin that despite ALL that live viewing and general fannying around there was LOADS of battery life left !!?? just saying !
heheh oh I noticed. Burned two batteries in 12 minutes shooting this.!