My FOOT PLACEMENT Was Wrong
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Hi Greg, great videos. Is it possible to buy your riding program in pdf format without Amazon Kindle?
So Cal Motor Deputy here: We're trained to keep our right toe resting on top of the rear brake pedal just in case of emergency braking. When lane splitting, I keep my right hand covering the front brake lever for the same purpose.
I push up my knee into the tank while the balls of feet are on the foot peg.
It may be more comfy and solid to you not being vertically challenged. Additionally, I can't identify if that's a whole aftermarket rearset you have or just the peg.
Greg, I think most viewers misunderstood what you were trying to say. I think you didn't stress enough the fact that this applies only for the outside foot when cornering.
I agree with you, that is the subject matter after all.
I suppose not everyone has read or been exposed to one of the Twist of The Wrist books. That's the quintessential foundation for being a better rider.
He does say just the outside foot peg at 0:38
He very much said the outside foot while cornering….I heard it clearly
He did say it, how ever as Mihai said, "didn't stress enough"
If something is just mentioned once, it flies past most as "not to important", better if repeated a few times, but it is mentioned at least.
Personally I disagree with this. Riding with the ball of your foot on the pegs allows the most control when riding at a fast pace. Less need for moving your entire leg when you need to readjust. Allows for the most energy to be transferred into the peg when needed as well. The less movement of mass on the bike, the smoother one can be and we all know that smooth = speed. Obviously speaking in "general" terms when discussing these issues.
I see your point, but I'm certain he's referring to whilst you are leaning at huge lean angles into corners. It makes you hang from your bike alot easier, it takes your leg against the tank more naturally meaning less fatigue for your upper torso
I never was a Track Rider and think thats Nonsens to. Back in my young Days on the Fireblade, i was on the Peg with the Tip of my Foot only and also lift the Peg with it, so I dont get distract if it hit the Tarmac in the Middle of the Corner...but i never Ride in a real Hangoff and do the Knee down, i like to be Part of the Bike and get max lean Angel with the Bike. I used my Legs to stay in Contact with the Bike. May there are "Better" or faster Technics, but for me that was how i had the most Fun and Thrill.
Yea don’t need to adjust very much until you need to hit the brake lol
@Topper Hill, that's directly contrary to what his videos teach, and I tend to agree with him as far as minimal lean angles = more contact patch in the corner.
@@corndog6700 Many modern tires have multi-compound tires, so the more you lean the stickier the rubber (even my bicycle tire has different compounds depending on lean angle). Also friction is not a function of contact patch, but regardless that's still wrong because pressure is force per square inch, so if your butt weighs 200 pounds over that tire, and you have 20 psi tires, you have 10 square inches of contact patch wether that's upright or on its sidewalls.
Dang, I can’t believe you’re just now learning this! Locking your heal into the outside peg helps stabilize you like crazy, especially if your other leg isn’t touching anything! I don’t agree that you should put too much weight on it though, just lock it in and create as much contact with the bike as possible with your leg. Inside peg should take probably 75% or more of the pressure into the pegs. In transitions I will usually bring the outside foot back onto the peg (balls of feet) as I’m moving my body to the other side of the bike, as my weight was mostly on the inside peg and I can use that foot to push my body to the other side. As I’m going into the next corner and transitioning weight to the now inside peg I’ll move my now outside foot to lock it into there peg with my heal. On very fast transitions, going right left right left in quick succession just stay on the balls of your feet and move from side to side, almost not touching the seat through the whole set.
And for the guys saying they’re hitting the back break… your toes should be pointing away from the bike, and much higher than where the lever sits. Not even close to the brake lever. If you’re inadvertently hitting the rear brake, like ever, adjust the lever down.
Dude needs rearsets
Agree with this. ChampionsU says weight on inside peg, not outside peg. But a solid hooking is a good move.
Im not one to hang off the bike all the time but ive always done this when ive felt it necessary to adjust my body position in a corner. Gives a great solid anchor point allowing any other inputs to be nice and smooth
I heard lots of people saying to push hard on the outside, but I find it impossible, I'm hanging of, knee hanging on the tank, but the outside foot is always light
Am I supposed to be pressing the outside peg against what, the tank?
I have to disagree. Transitions from one side to the other are much faster when on the balls of your feet. And not to mention you’ll be dragging your foot on the ground and possibly risk injury if you fold your foot under the peg when cornering.
He talking about outside foot
@@amiteshbesra9855 I was wondering that. However if that the case depending on body position rear-set height and length of your leg, the outside foot may not even be able to reach the peg. Hard to generate any kind of pressure. Idk. I’ve never tried that method.
@@alexcusma4908 so you havent tried it but you disagree... my dude I think you should give it a try before you form an opinion
Most MotoGP riders (if not all) use that technique. Just give it a try and you will see the benefit.
@@exklbr I remember some don't, but most do. I think try it and do what works for you
I remember learning this from Life At Lean and Canyonchasers but just to be very specific,this technique is for the OUTSIDE leg when HANGING on the bike while getting the inside leg KNEE DOWN deep in a CORNER. This technique helps to get a good solid LOCK o the outside leg to the tank. I have tried this and yes this works but when I take mild fat sweepers and if I use neutral body position on my bike, riding on the ball of my foot both inside and outside works better for me. I really don't like getting my knee down as deep as others and I don't hangoff the bike as much either. I mostly keep my whole lower body stationary but as this video specifically said, if you want to be more stable while hanging off getting a knee down deep in a corner, riding on the midsole position of the outside leg is a good habit.
This is the best comment out of all with proper explanation
This is one I kind of figured out on my own.. being a self taught dirt rider who took the RUclips academy to graduate, I found I felt so much more secure and had such a greater ability to use my hands to steer instead of hang on. I know this is 3 months old and I’m here because of the algorithm, but this is good content and hats off to you sir greg
WHATS UP! So I am really big on shooting, and something with shooting hand guns is having opposing grip, so off hand: thumb presses towards the muzzle, middle finger pushes opposite direction of the strong hand, so I applied this grip technique to riding, and what I found was if you put your foot of the opposite direction of which you are turning, by placing that foot onto the rear passenger peg, it naturally points your body in the direction of the corner, and also let’s your legs grab the bike harder, let me know what you think! Thank you for putting so much time and effort into this RUclips channel, it really pays off!
When I was first leaning to ride this is the cornering technique that I was taught. Inside foot on the ball with the heel angled inwards, outside midfoot on the peg. So I’ve always done it, feels super natural, secure and stable for me. I feel like if I was on the ball of my foot on the outside peg when cornering my hip and knees would have to work a lot harder.
I was taught that position during basic training. Feels pretty good, but I don't really corner hard or anything.
Also means my foot is already covering the brake, so I don't need to adjust if I have to use it in a hurry
Fun fact: that's why your boots have heels in the first place. They were originally designed so that horse riders could secure their in-step on a stirrup just like this.
Yes, but a motorbike is not a horse and the physics involved are quite different.
The raised heel is more a tactile feedback thing for keeping the foot in place.
One may ask why bicycles don't have these and flat foot pegs / pedals. Cycling is very similar to motorcycling in terms of physics.
@@opusdei51 The physics of the feet staying securely and comfortably in position on the pegs / stirrups as a rider are the same.
Your second paragraph seems to be a re-statement of my point, so I'm not sure why you're disagreeing with me.
As for your third paragraph, sorry but it doesn't make sense. We're talking about boot heels and you ask why bicycles don't have them - it's because bicycles aren't footwear. You also asked why bicycles "don't have flat foot pegs / pedals", but they do. Your final point that "cycling is very similar to motorcycling in terms of physics" would be true and relevant if we were talking about something like counter-steering. However, when it comes to feet on pegs they're very different - when cycling, the pegs and feet are in more-or-less constant rotational motion, whereas in motorcycling they're not. Even so, if you do stop pedaling for a corner (and if you're not using cleats), the most stable foot position will be with the in-step on the pedal using the heel as a brace.
Dude, the foot pegs on a bike perform a very different function than stirrups, except for the fact that you can rest your feet on both.
A bike rolls on wheels (centrifugal force), it has a pivot point behind the front wheel (steering) and weight transfer, lean, countersteering and trail breaking are absolutely essential for good cornering.
On a horse you have none of that, it stalks and it is a living beast with it's own adaptive capabilities like balancing.
With bicycles I was referring to why people wear flat footwear there/pedals are flat. I've never seen anyone using their heels on pedals, it's absurd you could slip off very easily and get hurt. In fact most clip in pedals are so small and are only connected at the balls, where the best transfer of force happens.
Lastly, have you considered why many walking shoes have a raised heel section despite never being used on a horse?
It's fashion and makes some people taller than they are.
@@opusdei51 Try cornering on a fast-moving horse without adjusting your body position and you're going to have a bad time. You use stirrups to help you do that. Footpegs and stirrups do, therefore, perform very similar functions.
Where did you get "heels on pedals" from? I said nothing about that. Is it possible you don't know the difference between your in-step and your heel? Oh, and I specifically said "if you're _not_ using cleats", so using raising cleats as a counterpoint is ridiculous.
Finally, yes fashion is why heels became popular in non-riding footwear. That has nothing to do with what the original design was for, so is completely irrelevant to my point.
Largely depends on where your bike’s foot pegs are located in relation to your seat and of course, the length if your legs and size of your boot. Although cheers to you for always discovering new riding techniques that work well for you!
Another thing not mentioned is that it’s important to let muscles rest as much as you can when you can while youre riding hard. Locking in by the heel gives the calves a rest which can make a big difference over the course or a session/race/ride.
For all the experts in the comment section who disagree with this approach, I’d like to note that this is the way MotoGP riders place their foot on the outside foot peg. Keep an open mind and try new things. There’s usually more than one way to approach riding techniques.
When at the track I prefer to keep the opposite peg weighted on he ball of my foot so when I'm pushing on that peg to keep me off the bike and the bike as high as possible at lean I can engage my calf as well as my thigh instead of just my thigh if I were to hook the peg further back like you have.
Weighting the outside footpeg is a fallacy, watch Johnny Rea next time he corners. Foot nearly completely off the outside peg.
Totally agree. This guys tutorials are wank.
Yeah I’ve watched him a couple of times and his foot placement is really weird,his front foot is more to the outside,but this method is for tracks or racing,and maybe in the twisties with a fast pace
you're right. I even practice that while riding. kind of a reminder to stay relaxed. or even take my left hand off. just gets me to relax a bit and not be so tight during fast cornering.
the reason why you don't need as much on the outside peg is 1, the gravitational force of the bike in the corner is acting on the inside of the bike and tires. so if the rider is correctly positioned, they are becoming the focal point of the forces and are being pushed into the inside of the bike and into the seat. 2, to stand the bike back up, one could use mild steering input and mild rear brake, or just throttle out with mild trail breaking out of the corner to control the shot to the other side through a s section.
I’ve been trying to do this for awhile now but never made habit yet. And it’s especially tricky in the tighter twisties where there consecutive change of direction. Really need to have the confidence in the footwork to switch fast
Totally, agree. I learned some time ago that you should position the outside foot as Greg shows but for s-corners I just wouldn't know when to reposition my feet. I wonder whether he will read this and maybe provide a recipe. Benchmark would be doing it in a figure of eight exercise.
Nah tighter twisties just stay on the balls of your feet, seems like youd get smoother body transitions like that and transfer less movement to the bike
Hey ! At first look, it looks like very controversiale if we don’t catch when it is applied, but this tip is so true !
I use to ride on Trackdays, and used to put my ball feet of my external leg on the peg. It works good, but I looked at MotoGP riders and they all put their external foot on the peg as shown on this video. I tried it, and this is way better and comfortable.
More connection with the bike with less effort. It is way easier to hold your body with the external leg with this foot position. Only for trackuse or fast twisties street riding.
I see your point…I believe that every rider has a ergonomics to be adjusted and be comfortable with. I can see that working in light/straight line angle but not carving rodas in sharp conners.
Coming from a mountain/road bicyclist turned newish motorcycle rider, if you’re prone to foot cramps, riding with any part of your arch on the peg is much more likely to give you cramps compared to planting the pegs on the balls of your feet. You always line up the pedal shaft on a bicycle with the balls of your feet, if for this reason alone. Helps with motorcycle riding too. Another important point, depending on your footwear, riding too far back on your feet’s arches can cause your toes to point down when your feet are relaxed. If your toes are lower than the pegs and you lean too far into a corner, your toes will contact the pavement before the lean indicators on the pegs. Riding on the balls of your feet ensures the pegs are the first thing to touch the ground should a cornering mishap happen. Of course, this is only an issue if you have low or wide pegs or improper riding form is used. It still happens though.
Tight work, great share! I'm gonna do this after work!
Next month I'll have been riding 1year. I've learned so much from you, doodlebug & the total control book. i now work at a Harley dealership, & ride all different types of bikes. Thanks again for all you!! The only time i fell was at socal super moto burm of destiny, where i met ya!🤓🤘🏼
yeah this is basically what we do in racing. would usually be closer to the ball of my foot though so i can weight the peg properly, especially on a change of direction
I tried it on a track day last week and it works very well (for me). I get a better feedback from the bike, it actually helps to improve the body+bike stability and eventually increasing my cornering speed!
The instructor also recommended that during the session.
It differs between riders depending on height. For me I’ve always found that comfortable when I’m doing comers or just going fast. My friend is 6’ and finds it more comfortable riding with his heel on peg and foot slanting downward.
I've just been experimenting with this for the past 4 days (what a coincidence) and I agree with you. It makes you much more stable on the bike. Putting some weight on the outside makes you even more stable, that's what i perceived. Riding a BMW S1000XR (2016).
It is definitely more stable but it also pivots your hips into the corner essentially guiding you to face into the bend
I think this is a very minor and specific adjustment in riding technique.
As a beginner rider I dont think I should risk the nose of my boot getting close to get caught by the asphalt in a right corner.
I keep my feet firmly by the side of the bike, feet position in the middle of the peg in neutral, when I have to rear brake I slide my feet a bit forward to reach the pedal and thats it.
After a few hundred km more I might start experimenting such small adjustments. A note worthy tip though Thanks!
He's specifically talking about the outside foot here. You can't do this with the inside foot because of clearance issues, like you said.
This is outside foot placement, being on the ball or towards the toes of the inside foot is still correct.
Pushing down on the outside peg? In my opinion that does not help to keep your hands loose. Try pushing down on the inside peg with the balls of your feet. On the outside try pushing INTO the bike (not down) with your knee (to the tank) and heel (towards the rear set / swingarm).
Wrong? Maybe more like preference, and style of bike. On my sport tourer, I find riding on the balls of my feet to be unnecessarily tiring. Much easier and quicker for me to just twist the feet in to work the controls without completely repositioning them forward and backward, and more stable when need to stand quickly. They’re always right where they need to be for me to shift and brake almost instantly. Also just feels more natural to me to let it rest on the peg in front of the heel, and relieves some pressure from bending the knee that little bit further to be on the balls. But on a cafe I used to have, I was tucked almost all the time on straighter, faster stretches so I would practically be up on my toes with the ankles resting on the frame and my elbows resting on my knees and my chest on a tank bag. That was super comfy because I had no tension anywhere, other than a little on the back of my neck, because I was all locked into place and basically lying down. I could steer enough by just lifting an ankle a little bit to nudge an arm forward. But once into curves, I’d lift off the tank bag a little and position my feet just like on the ST to work the controls.
We all.... after years of riding.... develop our own style....I never use the back brake... track riding. I dance on the peg with left foot to change gears... but I like toes on pegs...... just got done with 4 th track day this year... headed to Utah to ride this weekend! Hammer down!
I tried this a bunch of times. The problem I seemed to face was that for some reason the knee/inner thigh lock on to the tank didn't feel as sure. When I'm on the ball of my feet, I can push down, raise my ankle and it locks the knee under the tank lip and my inner thigh gets a nice lock with the tank and that provides me a very stable anchor. I've seen this foot position recommended a lot across many tutorials but I always felt a bit loose whenever I tried it. I'll try it again a bunch of times and see how it feels.
It's probably your ergonomics on your specific bike and your body type, probably if the pegs were higher you'd fit this way
@@Bugside the pegs are at the highest position on the adjustable rearsets. I suspect it might be a tank shape thing
I do this on the track as a way to relax the outside leg.
If I'm pushing hard enough on the street that I need to relax to prevent cramping I slow down and schedule another track day to get it out of my system.
Yep, I do ball of the foot on the inside foot, middle of the foot on the outside foot. I'll try pushing down on the outside foot though. Haven't ever consciously done that.
I read some comments Jack Miller made a couple of years ago. He uses that technique too, so does Troy Corser. I tried it and it does make driving off the corner much more confidence inspiring. . . However, I can't for the life of me figure out why. This would be a great one to explore the mechanics of what is going on there. Keep in mind there are people like Tony Elias that can't even reach the outside footpeg and he will out drive all of us like our bikes are not even running so I think it is something that changes the feel of the bike but might not really have much benefit other than increasing confidence. Definitely something worth looking into though.
I Tried it and it I felt more relaxed and secured because you don’t need to move your foot so much if you need to brake. Amazing how small things change can change your riding.
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It seems like a excellent suggestion, because it increases the consistent points of contact while giving maximum leverage and foot grip. I am no motorcycle riding expert, but as an amateur physicist this works real good. I would suggest contemplating the idea of since you can't change the size of your foot,, footpeg selection, adjustment and modification might be one of the cheapest best upgrades after tires. Always good stuff on your channel. Thank you.
Dude, you gotta change the thumbnail. Someone’s gonna see it, not watch the video, not know you’re talking about the outside foot only, and get their foot torn off in a corner.
Love the channel btw
Back in the 80s, when I was a yoot riding dirt bikes, that was a technique called "weighing the outside footpeg", and was said to have some ancillary physics like stiffening the outside tire sidewall, or something like that. No idea if it did that, but the same technique was pounded into me when I started racing bicycles years later (road, circuit and crits) when it wasn't appropriate to pedal through the turns.
im not a rider but as a fitness person this makes sense.the biggest and strongest muscle groups in human body are posterior chain and glutes/hips. you are activating them more when you put weight in the middle of your foot. just like deadlifting. you involve stronger muscles,it would also help your core thus would increase stability.this is beneficial from anatomical point of view.
This is what the motogp riders do as well and it s correct for a better anchor in the bends and more sportier ride. My question is if you also move your body before the corner when would you do this foot placement movement? After you have moved your body?
My foot usually sits between the border of the ball of my foot and the arch. It's thicker to absorb my single cyl bike vibration. If I slide it forward I can reach my brake for emergency. Slide it back abit to open up my thigh so my toes won't be dangling.
I think it's kind of funny that you even mentioned this because I noticed that within my first few times of riding
I’ve always done that. You can also push down on one foot and lift the other to turn the bike.
That part of our boots doesn't hold that much traction on the peg (which means easy slip off), also with the middle of your foot you can't really feel what the rear wheel of your bike or what the bike itself is really doing when you're going round the corner. When one can feel how the bike is moving is through the ball of your foot. You can put your leg under and side of the tank as a grip so to speak like you described. To be like that without changing foot position you can just be leant further forwards to begin with, which in turn drops your knee to a lower position for you to get further forward and under that side of your tank for being locked on to your bike. It also gives more traction to the front wheel of your bike 👌
Tell that to Jack Miller while he’s sliding the bike around bends at daft speeds with the peg in the heel of his boot. I reckon he’s got plenty of feel for what the bike’s doing.
I’ve never rode with the balls of my feet on the pegs. On the shift foot, it’s much easier to shift up or down if your foot is in the proper position to shift at all times, same with the brake foot. It’s the same principle as covering the front brake lever with one or two fingers at all times.
It's for your inside foot on corners. When I was learning to ride my XSR700 through twisties I found my foot catching pavement in turns if I wasn't on toes.
@@ganuvien makes sense, but I’ve never had to lean over far enough to scrape a foot.
Lmao when he pans up and it’s him holding the boot😂 thought he was sitting on the bike
i agree with being able to put more pressure on the pegs , but half the time guys that ride like that touch their rear brakelever on bumps and shifting around on the bike resulting in the brake light going of repeatedly. not ideal riding in group . it also limits your ground clearance ( i do have eu size 48 shoes so results may vary )
Yes, that is where the peg is supposed to be. The only reason to use the ball of your foot is if you're a GP racer, maxing out lean angle.
Yes. I found I was weighting the outside foot like that naturally. I do agree that keeping on balls of feet and keeping heels up and in is easier when I get lazy/tired so I don’t have so many movements by later in the day to think about. But locking into the outside of the bike with that heel ledge of the boot feels solid and controlled
Note - Eddie said on the “outside boot” of corners, not inside. If you do this on the inside you’ll drag your boot or worse, upset the bike and risk a stack.
Good to know because thats how i always ride. Most of what i do is technical so alot of up down. Do i absolutely have to shift probably not but I enjoy shifting and clutch operation
This is the normal foot position on the footpegs! I learned that 30 years ago in a driving school in Germany! 😂
I had issues learning where to put my right foot because I keep hitting the rear brake and not realizing it. Took awhile to put my foot out to the side or on the ballad of my foot.
Might be a thing for highly technical road riding but in most situations it's a bad idea, especially when doing adventure or off-road riding.
Keeping the pegs under the balls prevents potential massive injury to your toes / feet.
Ergonomics are also better, pushing on your balls has much better feeling/feedback and one can stand up, move weight from left to right very easily. The balls also allow for more force transfer as they're not soft tissue like the midfoot.
Maybe on some bikes for some riders the method here makes it easier to lock the knees against the tank but on mine it doesn't make it better.
I use the ball to raise knee and push tank. I feel as though I'm skiing, Left leg right arm, right leg left arm.
I lock my outside leg from the footpeg to the tank with the balls of my outside leg pressing the peg as if i were doing calf raises. This relaxes the upper body, tightens my core, thus more muscles are getting involved in the countersteering action and the handle bar seems weightless. In this way counter steering becomes effortless
Plus smooth transitions etc
Been riding supersports for 6 years. I use both placements. Ball of my feet when racing or any just going fast through traffic at any time and even on twisties I twist my heel into the bike to get a grip with my knee and let gravity do the work. The middle of my feet for pretty much comfort, cruising down the highway or light curves I’ll just relax and let the bike do it’s own thing. Personal opinion, ball of your feet allows a better reaction time and much more agile feeling position
you wanna be comfortable on your bike so ride which ever way is comfortable for you there’s a lot of preference and different riding styles. Now if you race that’s completely different. Position of a foot is very important when you race specially in turns.
I’ve always kept my toes on the peg because of learning to ride on dirt bikes you are supposed to because your leg can be pulled underneath if you hit something with your foot hanging down
Good point. I've been doing this ever since I noticed MotoGP riders doing it a couple years ago and wondered why. So I tried it and it really does make a big difference!
Interesting to view this. When talking "beneficial", what exactly do you mean by that?
I'm always like "where ever it is" for the outside foot, often even loosing touch as pressure is on the inside. I'm not that tall, so I'm loosing touch on the outside traveling at high speed in the mountains. I'm more on keeping contact with the leg on the outside rather than keeping the foot on the peg (on the edge of hanging off).
Straight out of A Twist of the Wrist!
Saw that tip from Canyon Chasers, another really good motorcycle channel
I have been trying what you advised and it does seem to make my riding more stable. How do you like those boots? I just got those and I'm loving them so far. One of the most comfortable boots I've owned.
This is what Champ U teaches. I will be practicing soon.
You mean your external foot right? The external is quite good to provide grip throughout the corner, but the inside should be always in the ball of your foot to avoid a lot of wrong issues like the ones you have explained in several videos, touching the ground, changing gear by mistake, etc.
Yes bro i did the same on my mt07 ,felt really confident, i mgt be wrong but for me the more my foot was facing outwards and heal on the peg the more comfortable i was i dont know if it recommended
Wow sorry love your videos but that's the positioning you should always be in especially when covering. Think if shit hits the fan what delay it would be to move your foot back to the gear level or back break it's like not having your fingers on the front break time you reached for the front break it's too late. Also best way yo anchor yourself to the bike. Keep up the good videos massive fan and taught me quite a bit do thanks
Yes! Absolutely yes! Keep your feet in the proper position to shift and brake.
Dayum, I just tried this for the last 10 miles of riding and it’s dramatically improved my stability on the bike while cornering. What a difference!
Not certain one way or the other, will try and find out for myself. I love the fact that you are always thinking throughout your rides about techniques that can be learnt, used and improved 👌👏 We all need to ride like that whatever the techniques we identify as important for us !
I used to ride with the peg under my toes, in front of the joint. I find that riding with the peg just below joint or slightly behind the joint towards the arch, my posture, comfort, and ability to keep pressure off the handlebars is better.
But that is just general riding, not "aggressive curves."
I was seriously expecting a leg in that boot 😂😂😂
If turning left Into the corner are you planting you right foot heel in ? What are doing with your left foot or do you bring your left knee out like an air break.
I juke in my FZ09 I’m on my balls of my feet for agility but in a steady corner where I need rear grip the driving the heal down is how I can keep the rear planted and also allows me to do little quick jerks that help me avoid pot holes.
Hey Eddie, what's happening.? One thing I picked up from watching videos, watching the World Superbike guys race in the rain, in Super-Slo-Mo, is when the rear breaks loose, they actually very nearly stand up on that outside peg, trying yo get it to hook back up. Some of them actually get their butt off the seat weighting that outside peg, and it works, the bike hooks back up. Those fuckers are crazy to race in the rain though. Keep up the good work Eddie.
Lol that's something I learnt in mtb
You always position your inner pedal to be at the top of the stroke and your outer to be at the bottom, and you put all your weight on the outer pedal
That's literally a must because bicycles are light and so you don't have much traction otherwise, especially on dirt.
With shorties like me, It varies depending on the bike I'm riding. My duc for e.g. has a tall tank and my grips are higher than normal so I stay on the ball and press up into the tank. On my street triple, I don't have to, I can stabilize with my heel :)
Bob Hurricane Hannah style is riding on the 'Ball's of his feet" famous MX racer late 1970's 1980's
Hell, I'm new to all this still but, always felt this just..... felt right. kept me more streamlined with my bike or somethin.
A bunch of comments here seem to comment on the thumbnail and not even watch the video. He's referring to the OUTSIDE FOOT IN A TURN, not riding like this everywhere
After 20 years of thinking i know how to ride, placing my feet in the right place, made me fall in love with motorcycles all over again.
it's probably more practical when we're folded for a long time in corner and need a solid anchor, but maybe I'm wrong
Just a heads up. I guess its all depends on what your riding and how hard your cornering and pushing the bike but I used to ride like that when I first started riding. I was cornering with my foot in that position and with my foot still on the peg, my foot scraped the road which caused my foot to be pulled under the peg, and that was painful. From then on I always ride with the balls of my feet on the pegs to stop that from happening again.
Thought I'd mention that just incase your not aware of what could happen. Anyway enjoy riding and be safe out there
Keep the ball of my foot on the peg but turn my heel/ankle against the bike as leverage to push against, same concept but don't have to keep moving your foot position.
How do you change gear if you don’t have to keep moving your foot position?
So just watched motogp slow motion and yes they position outside foot as you say. Great shot of marquez sliding the rear with outside foot heel down and inside foot heel up. Never noticed before
Got the screenshot but don't think I can put it in comments?
My Piaggio mp3 250cc I put in hwy footpegs for support for long distance riding its till projects I restoration from bottom up! MJ
Turns out I may have been wrong for a very long time! Will have to try that.
Interesting to see where the sole is wearing out. You are consistent in the shift spot.
Brake padel, it is his right shoe
Ya, it’s from foot placement on the outer edge of the peg during a deep right turn lean.
I understand the mechanics to this video, but for me personally and how my brake oeg is set up I stay on the balls of my feet regardless of which is the outside foot. Therefore I have less chance of an accidently gear shift mid corner or use the rear brake unintentionally out of muscle memory. I find I'm able to lock my heels into the bike more securely, especially for the outside foot. Like I said though, this is just personal preference through experimentation. Keep up the good work. Absolutely love your videos, always good info & tips
Brake peg*
As soon as I allowed myself to utilize my decades of bicycle (including BMX on dirt and skateparks) skills on a motorcycle, I started counter leaning all the time and using the footpegs more actively. Now I can ride my almost 30 year old CBR 600 F2 very fluently without thinking about riding as boring as the driving schools demand (they were doing it just so you can pass the test and in order to do so, you have to be boring and do things a certain way, because fuck you). I use my legs as suspension still and have had my license for less than a year (Haven't ridden the whole winter because Norway).
I'll have to try it out this Sunday on the track 🤔
On track days I never leave my foot placement like that unless you dont want ya toes. I'll do that if I'm cruising.
Jup, a pitbike instructor already told me this. So there should be something to it. But I think depending on what boots you wear, the benefit might be not as big as with boots that have the same sole type like yours.
i ride with my feet on my tank
Thanks! What kind of boots are you using here?
My foot placement has been wrong.
I was riding with my back break on almost constantly while having lessons for the mod 1 in the UK. I now ride with the peg just where my heel starts and my toes slightly out off the break practically as you ate describing
As comfortable as that might be, I believe that the way you were riding before was the right way. imo
Thanks Eddie. I’m not sure but I think that’s what I’ve been doing like forever. 👍
I remember you explaining this year's ago.
I have that same indent on the bottom of my right foot alpine stars as well lol
Chicanes and left to right corners in quick succession its better to keep both feet on their balls rather than mid foot (easier to move from one side of the bike to other and foot ground clearance), but for normal corners this is the correct way to have your feet on the pegs
With the peg more into the heel you engage the large muscles and core to move from one side to the other rather than the small muscles that are engaged when on the balls of your feet. Try doing a squat flat-footed and then do it on the balls of your feet. There’s a reason why the majority of top riders do it.