@@bmstylee some are, but like the video states vehicles are accumulating at dealerships because a lot let people aren't buying. There will always be the fortunate enough to buy a brand new truck every 3-5 years.
Not really, they still sell coke and bud light and have wnba on tv that no one watches. IOW the crooks will finance whatever agenda they want to push. Ban straws but not the plastic bottles/list goes on and on.
Wrong! The anti car people have endless patience and play on greed and weakness and heavy handed authority. England trying to outlaw fixing cars 15 years old.
@@bigamigo4863 That's not what I heard. When I went to my local dealership they didn't have a lot of these trucks. They only had 3 Tundras and a couple Tacomas. They said the TRD Pros sell as soon as they get them in. Now I know snarky types will say "ohh they say they SAY" ... but I have eyes, and I know haters. Blame Joe Biden for the prices not Toyota.
To be fair then sequoias should be 50k. So many people saying trucks should be 2 dollars but the 90k suvs are ok because they added some carpet and back seats and a longer roof
I don't think I've heard a single person say that 90k suvs are okay 😂 car prices all over right now are way to high that's why they can't sell anything. No shot I'm paying 54k for a bare bones truck no shot I'm paying 90k for an SUV it's that simple I guarantee I'm not the only one
In 2015 I leased a new Tacoma TRDOR with the Premium pkg and an MSRP of $32K. In 2018 I leased a new 2018, same features, having an MSRP of $36K. My current 2021 Taco, with the same package, jumped to an MSRP of $45K and in 2024 the same featured vehicle now carries an MSRP of over $53K. That 'effing insane and pure greed on the part of Toyota.
These stealerships are feeling the consequences now. As a customer, I will always remember the stealerships who charge ridiculous markups because they could at the time.
The dealer called me asking if I wanted to trade in my 2018 Tundra limited for the new Tundra at a great deal. My reply to him was that without the 5.7 and all the new turbo crap on the new one there is no way this farmer would do so.
That's it right there. The tundra is (or was) Toyota's answer to the f150 and 1500... With a V8. No laborer wants a finicky, under torqued, overpriced show truck. We want a dependable, comfortable work truck we can take pride in.
@@globetrotter7778 after working on jaguars and BMWs that did this same "turbos for fuel economy" malarkey, it's not worth a little more torque IMO. Stock turbos are always, *always* trouble for years.
@@globetrotter7778 it's just a mechanical fact. Toyota is by far the most well engineered vehicles IMO but you put a turbo on a daily driver and it makes problems. They're great if you're a car guy and keep up with everything but that's not how most people live. Too much city driving they gunk up, shut it off too soon too often and they burn oil and seize. We'll see what time says but the I force v8s were almost perfect. If you want economy you get a Tacoma 🤷♂️
@@TheHonestPeanut Those are some facts. Too many don't care enough for their vehicles and in cities, the percentage of pickup owners who actually use their vehicles to tow, haul or go off-roading is shockingly low.
When you get rid of the reliable and simple V8 and bring twin turbo V6 and put a ridiculous price tag on the truck, you won’t sell it! Thanks for the video
We bought one of the last new 21s. Just couldn’t see going with a turbo v6 in my high dirt environment. I’m afraid for the future of tough, reliable working trucks at this point. My old 95 chevy dually will be roaming the roads like the last t-Rex 🦖 while those plastic princess trucks sit in a junkyard. My 21 limited isn’t the truck my 14 sr5 was. The 21 needs a trans cooler and those new trucks don’t even have tow hooks. Every iteration of new Toyotas is getting more glammy and less functional.
It makes me happy to see dealership hurting and having vehicles sitting on the lot just like precovid. There were charging through the roof with their “market adjustments” when customers are not stupid. Not just for Toyota but for all makers. Exactly how it should be, no one should ever pay over sticker for any vehicle let alone the ridiculous interest rates they are charging.
@@junzilla13 Biden have money. Politicians have money. Their projects are fully funded with the inflation reduction bill. Other projects are fully funded by redirected covid relief funds. Their coffers are full, and they're spending it. Biden isn't lying when he's saying our economy have never been better. The governments purchasing power have never been better.
@@junzilla13 Trump genomics. Democrats can't change any of the rules Trump established. Trump can't change anything. Only congress. But morons will cry its Biden and have ZERO understanding of how our legislative process works.
The other big issue for me, regardless of make is that no one stocks a 6.5" foot bed. The little 5' bed on the back of most half tons are worthless. I use my truck for hauling in the bed and a 5' bed is worthless.
Screw that - the manufacturers only care about selling $100k cars to the wealthy. The rest of us will just have to settle for used vehicles - it's our "new normal". FJB
That’s what I been saying for years. Falls on deaf ears though. Those morons paying Stealership prices are screwing the rest of us from ever seeing fair price tags again.
Unpopular opinion. I see so many of these videos, yes the price is high but if you look at it, inflation is up like 22% since 2020 so that 55.5k with inflation is 68k, you add all the tech that the previous model was missing and you can see where they got the price. It's not exclusive to the Tundra, it's the whole auto industry and everything Else. Yes prices are too high but it's high for everything. Candy bars were 35 cents when i went to school 30 years ago, now that Snickers is like $3. Inflation is crazy.
Bought a '23 Tundra and got rid of it 3 months later with only 1,800 mi. I'm a Toyota fan for over 20 years, my last '18 Tundra was an awesome truck minus the MPG. This new '23 Tundra was a pile of crap. So many issues and Toyota would not fix any of the issues including dead throttle.....it would lose throttle randomly for 2-3 seconds. Opened a case with Toyota USA and they told me unless I can replicate it at the dealerships lot, they will not help. Got rid of that truck before it puts me and my family in a bad spot for a wreck. Moved on to a GMC Sierra 1500 3.0 Duramax. Such a nice truck and not a single issue now 20k plus miles. And I'm averaging 28mpg...unbelievable.
Who would have thought people are preferring food and housing over a new truck. The economy is in the toilet, no one in their right mind would pay 6-7% on a 60K+ truck.
People forget we were in depression or at the very least a recession in 2020, the US and world economy collapsed in 2020 and that’s what 46 came into office to
Inflation is currently around 3.1% which is just barely at normal inflation levels of 2-3 percent What SPECIFIC biden policy do you think created the initial inflation
I wonder why the government doesn’t require a water based paint to help protect the environment! 🤡🤡🤡🤡 The Gov shouldn’t dictate the type of transportation we choose to buy.
@@LoneWolfSpartylol what are you talking about , trucks still got v8 engines, my brother bought a ram hemi with a v8 and my buddy got a charger rt (which are selling “cheap”) which slso has a v8
It definitely revolves around durability, price ( currently at beyond insane levels ), and options available ( V8's, mechanical controls, no push to start, ect ).
Simply put. The prices they're charging (automakers across the board) are absurd. Even if the economy wasn't in shambles, I still wouldn't pay such ridiculous prices.
What is believe is happening is they will keep pricing high and force dealers to sell there dealerships so in the future they can sell on line like tesla is doing
This is what happens when a corporation allows dealers to mark up a vehicle. Too many people are frustrated with these stealerships and now have been jaded by the BS and won't stand for it. The people that bought the 22's at insane mark ups are responsible for the BS as well. Looks like I'm holding onto my 2018 for a while longer.
The US has an economy every country on earth wishes they had. Nice shit bagging on the USA because Toyota Tundras are expensive. The problem is candy asses who whine like a bitch over the dumbest shit on earth. "Tundras are expensive that means the USA is pure shit..where is my woobie!"
People are worried about what's about to happen in their lives in the next four or five years. They don't see having a $50,000 note on a pickup truck as making that situation better.
I sold my new 2022 Tundra SR 5 back in January of this year with 7,842 miles on the odometer. At about 5,000 I noticed a thump sound from the engine on cold start. I never took it to the dealer that I bought it from just to be told that they could not duplicate the problem. I sold the truck to a dealer while the value was still reasonable. I don’t regret selling the Tundra after researching the 2022 - 2024 Tundra problems coming to light. Thanks for sharing your video.
You answered your own question, $20k increase in 3 MY versions and interest rates trippled. Who can afford $1k+ monthly payment plus insurance and maintenance. Just ridiculous
Yep. I just bought a new Nissan Frontier, less expensive than a Tacoma and still has a V-6. Tacoma is a 4-cylinder turbo now. Plus, I think Frontier is a better looking truck.
Turbo is a waste of money for gas it's not a sport car you are right they get rid of it the old engine like v8 and over priced the useless engine what a joke😂
Talking to a friend in the business, corporate side, back in 21 he was saying Toyota is seeing people playing these huge markups, so he was afraid that Toyota would raise their msrp since we proved we would pay these stupid prices, so we did it to ourselves i think honestly by overpaying
Take it from me (PLEASE!) an owner of a 22’ Tundra and let me sum things up…for starters the infotainment system sucks and the front doors flex because they’re HUGE, over 6’ diagonally and I hear it daily driving. Can’t imagine taking offroad. Contacting Toyota’s help line netted ZERO help. $63K then $38K now offered at trade in with 10,500 miles clean as a whistle. 😢
It's crazy!! I just saw a used 2014 Toyota Tundra with 187,000 miles go for $25,995! It's time for consumers to take back our buying power and stall out on all of these car dealerships!
Needs to be triple that discount. I found an sr5 SX package that caught my eye but $3600 off a $52000 truck isn’t doing it for me. $11000 off and I make that deal.
Meanwhile, in Canada, the waiting list for a standard Corolla is 9 to 12 months and the hybrid is more than 2 years. The Camry hybrid is similar, around a 2.5 year wait after you submit your order.
$ 75,000 for a truck is outrageous, especially with known recalls and issues with the engines and bearings. I was planning to trade in my 2020 Tacoma and upgrade to the Tundra TRD pro, but the prices and the problems have convinced me to keep my 20 Tacoma. Cut the greed and put the prices back to where they belong and fix the recalls and other issues on The manufacturers dime and these trucks will start selling again. And this goes for all other truck market.
Okay, just test drove a TRD Pro iForce Max and this is my takeaway (and reasons I passed in no particular order): -Composite Bed -Small Bed -Plastic Bumpers -No Bed Step -No Recovery Hooks -Tire Tread Depth (really Toyota?) -Just Plain Ugly -No Rear Under Seat Storage -Little Rear Headroom (sunroof) -Priced Equivalent To 3/4Ton -Squat, Little Payload …other than that, well, it’s a damn good truck. Pretty quick and comfortable too. Just not what I need at that price point.
@@DudetaketheBusNew Toyotas aren't even lasting that long, either. The new engines that Toyota stuffed in the trucks are eating themselves apart from turbos going belly up to bearings getting loose. Not to mention a couple months ago when some SUVs had a recall for a potential wheel to pop off. Haven't heard issues from Honda lately.
Crazy money .. I'm still daily driving my Gen 1 , 2002 Tundra . V8 , 4.7 , limited .228 k miles . Runs great . No monthly payments . Low insurance payments. Low tax ( blue state , property tax ) almost zero repairs . Best vehicle I ever owned .
Even the new Trd pros are up over 20k vs the model you have. They just aren’t worth 20+k more than the older ones just 3 years ago go. How can a top of the line one for 53-54k just 3 years ago now 75k. Even back then you could get 3k off a Trd 4runner or tundra etc. people are not stupid. No one will just pay these huge number’s with interest rates at 8% as well. .
But people are stupid, look at all the idiots that took clot shot that media told them to. The same media that refuses to look into Epstein Island "visitors". You're probably wearing a mask right now.
I have a 16 tacoma that I plan to sell within the next two years and upgrade to a 4th gen TRD PRO. I'm hoping to profit from the recent dealership struggles
It's not about how much OFF the price you are getting. It's the actual price at the end of it that we can't stomach. Having that much off a vehicle should be a mark of shame like "we over charged people by this much" smh.
No, without the v8 it's worth less. What toyota needs to do to sell Tundras: pull their heads out of their asses and bring back the 5.7 v8, lower the MSRP.
I'm a Toyota guy, too, but watching this makes my long ago paid for 23 year old Dodge Ram with it's still strong running 5.9 litre Magnum V8 look WAAAAY better!! 6 cylinders, turbos, hybrids, that UGLY sheet metal, all at those prices. WHAT were they thinking?!
The 3g Tundra is a huge let down. 1g tundra was consistently popular and loved, 2g Tundra hit the market swinging big D with a nearly 3/4 ton class frame, massive brakes, massive transmission and massive capabilities which made everyone run back to the drawing board. Then the 3g hype train came along and had peoples expectations very high with the leaked "world beater" bs. What do we get? A Tacoma XL with ridiculous "bumpers" and strange design choices. You can tell all the truck budget went to the Tacoma and the Tundra got the crumbs. Toyota can salvage this gen by giving it a major face lift and I emphasis on the lift part. Pick up it's dumb underbite, give it steel bumper options front and rear, tone down the massive bs grill, and give the 4x4 Tundra and the Sequoia a suspension lift. Bring back the bench seat option, especially for the double cab. That center console isn't doing any favors for rear seat legroom. Bring back the V8.
Even with the mark-ups in my area, people are still on waiting lists to get a 2024 Tundra and especially the 1794 and Limited. I’m not surprised, this is California and people rarely get sticker shock anymore.
As a contractor that use his truck to tow a cargo trailer everyday with my 2008 tundra 5.7 i have a few problems with the new tundra. 1- no more leafs springs, coils with air bags on some models we all know coils tow like garbage 2- SR base model that is basicly the go model for contractors don’t tow as much as the other models less horsepower 3- with the tailgate down there is no way of getting inside the bed to get your tools with the corners of the bumper boxed in. 4- twin turbo engine that gets almost the same mpg as the 5.7L 5- if i look at my 16yr old truck and look at the new tundra im not sure if the reliablity is still there for long therm. 6- as a toyota fan im not sure when my old tundra is done i will go with the same brand very disappointed in the new tundra
I have an SR5 but got the premium with air bags, tow package, power package and tech package…so I have the big screen and heated softex seats for only $55k I put my own choice of lift kit and wheels so not missing the TRD package.
Nobody wants to, nor can they afford even reduced prices. Bring over the small 10k vehicles from overseas. I just want something to get from A to B reliably or haul what I need to haul. We don't need more tech than nasa in our vehicles
I’m curious what the invoice prices are on these trucks. I’ve bought many new vehicles for a couple hundred bucks over invoice in the past and a couple under invoice.
Turbos are just Expensive Trouble. Shove the turbos back to Japan. Wake up, Toyota Management.....you look like Fools, copying the methods of American Morans! Shame!
I work at a Toyota dealership as a technician. I prep the new cars and am not surprised these don't sell. We have 10 of them that haven't moved in months. The interior is super cheap. Anyone who has one or test drives one i have a suggestion. The giant cheap square plastic vent on the drivers side pulls right off with no effort and brings an entire piece over the instrument cluster with it. No joke a quick pull with one hand can have you holding a foot of interior trim. I think I could dismantle quite a bit with no tools.
Indeed. The insurance business is a racket to begin with. You are requires by law to have coverage, but there's no cap on how much they can charge you & they can raise rates & or cancel your coverage at any time for no reason. The mafia used the same system.
45 years of purchasing vehicles in Utah and I have NEVER been able to close a deal with Ken Garff. Ken Garff dealers are ALWAYS thousands more than competitors. 78k for a Tundra... it's going to sit. They have new 2022 Ram's on their lot that they refuse to lower the price. Imagine what they have paid in floor plan costs over that amount of time. They'll need a 100k now just to brake even.
Thanks for your service man. Went to a dealership in FL and the stupid sales manager gave me a price with mark-up. Told him he can keep it. Went and bought Ram HD for the less.
Its because for the majority of people a 60k truck is financial napalm. Car manufacturers became used to the idea that consumers would be able to buy trucks with nearly free loans. While car loan interest is averaging above 10% these expensive trucks will struggle.
the automakers have left their core market behind in affordability.over the last decade, they have milked all the cows dry.GREED often supplies its own ending.
I mean Ford and GM keep their v8's as an option to their trucks. They could always blow the dust off the 4.7 or the 5.7 v8's or even use the 5.0 out of the LC500 which is still in production for now.
I don’t know where you are, but in Texas you can’t find a Tundra or a Sequoia in stock. I had to wait for mine for 4+ months and before I ordered I had the chance to get one and before I made it to the dealer it was sold.
The problem lies that some people are still buying them. The new Tacoma is selling quick by people who are impulsive. I don't see the prices dropping any time soon.
New to your channel. The MSRP on all vehicles right now is insane. As you pointed out in a previous video, people need to look at the true cost of owning the vehicle as you pointed out. That means initial purchase price, insurance, maintenance cost and fueling the vehicle over time. Once you sit down and factor all those things in reality sets in. If it means paying your mortgage and feeding your family, a responsible person will not make such a decision. All vehicle manufacturers need to go back to listening to their customer base.
Note: The last Brand New Truck I bought was my 1998 Dodge Dakota R/T, I paid $18K for it from Dealership. I still own this Truck today, 26 years later it only has 79,000 miles on it. Still runs like it did when I bought it new. Why do I need a 2024? Really I don’t, and today’s trucks are over inflated prices, period. I can’t afford these new trucks today, anyways they not worth the money!
During post Covid shortages our Scottsdale dealership sold a 24 limited hybrid for $80k. Insane. We have both the 24 limited & 24 Plat hybrid but I feel most will sell when they offer 1.9% financing. My dealership just unloaded 20+ Tundra's April-May most of which were financed.
Truck prices rose much faster than the bulk of people paychecks. Case closed. It's not crazy, its TOO.MUCH.MONEY!!! By Xmas of 2024 most of these dealerships will close.
I’m blessed to be able to afford any truck I desire; however, paying today’s prices is absurd. Paying close to $80k (after tax, tile, license and dealer fees), for a TRD Pro is insane. I went from driving a 22 Raptor and considering a 24 TRD Pro, to now driving a Ridgeline. I bought it for $2,500 under invoice and 1.9% financing. Blast me by saying it’s not a truck….I don’t give a shit. It’s more of a truck to me than the Raptor was. My payment is $400/month. The days of driving overpriced boujee trucks to go to Costco are over for most people.
I'm a Toyota fan boy also.Just bought a new Frontier s 4wd.29000 difference trading in a 2014 F150 regular cab 2wd with 165000 miles and a failing transmission.
Isn’t it nice to see the lots filling up actually, I want to get back to getting a deal again like we use to. Even if they still screwing us it’s nice to feel like you getting something
I wasn’t a fan of Terra initially but after seeing it out in the direct sun, it’s really a great color that looks so different between sun and clouds. But I also think the smaller 4Runner wears it better than the larger vehicles.
It needs the V8 to make it attractive. The sound of the V8 is awesome and it can easily be enhanced. The price tag is way too high. A recent poll said that 83% of the people in the U.S. can’t afford to buy a new car or truck now. Toyota is competing for 17% of buyers and the price with a V6 is just too high. Maybe if you gave the price incentive off the MSRP and lowered the interest rate to finance it for 60 or 72 months? Just my opinion.
GX550 Overtrail looks more interesting than a Tundra TrdPro at same price. If one really NEEDED a truck, one wouldn't be needing a TrdPro in the first place. So many 4x4s to choose from.
Correct, i've never seen a single TRDPro or Raptor owner use their vehicle as an actual truck. The one's I know offroad them 1-3 times then goes around boasting about how they offroad their vehicles but then keeps it as a pavement princess all the way till they sell it.
@@threadoflifeactually I could’ve bought a Lariat for 1.9 at 72 months. I chose no to because the truck didn’t have the equipment I wanted and I personally don’t care for leather seats. To me leather seats are just a waste of money. The 1.9 for 72 months was on all 2023 F150s
Im still trying to figure out who can afford a 75,000 work truck? That used to be luxury car money....and still sort of is. You can get a pretty decent used Maserati for that kind of money.
Vehicle prices are too high and interest rates are too high, keeping many from buying a new vehicle right now. Manufacturers and dealers are trying to keep the inflated pandemic/chip shortage prices in place and people arent having it. The industry as a whole needs to come back down to reality. Im about to turn in a lease and rather than buy or lease a new vehicle, Im choosing to turn my lease in and just drive my paid for 2007 GMC Sierra for a while until things normalize a bit. Oh yeah, I should add that many like myself are tired of seeing all these trucks, and other vehicles, move away from V8's and V6's too these turbo 4 cylinders. So, many may be looking for used vehicles that arent under powered. I love my V8 Sierra. I certainly hope this changes. Turbo 4's arent a good replacement.
Can u do a review on the GEN 5 Toyota 4Runner.. what prices are you seeing .There’s very few on the lot new and used down here in Florida where I’m at. And the new ones they are still wanting to start off at MSRP with no incentives or help on price.
When I was shopping, I thought the Limited and SR5 offered more value than the higher trims. Untamed’s dislikes are actually not present on a limited (red logo on steering wheel, wider turning radius).
I had a 2022 and it was an ok truck until the engine seized at 28,000 miles. After six months, I finally got my Lemon Law buyback check. No more Toyota’s for me, back in a real truck, GMC HD and love it!
My Wifes Audi S-Q8 has a MASSIVE 4.0 L Twin Turbo V-8 that is an absolute Peach to drive, Effortless power everywhere!! The V-6 has no business in a full size truck!!
No front recovery hooks. No auto 4wd. And the hybrid adds expense and complication without much of a gain in fuel milage. Thats why I removed it from my short list to replace my ‘17 F150.
My buddy's dad just traded in his 23 Tundra for a 24 Titan because he needs a NA V8 for towing. The man said it didn't tow as much as the specs stated and it struggled allot to pull 7K LBS up a steep hill, we live in Nevada. It's just crazy that Toyota killed the V8 in the Tundra/Sequoia and the V6 in the Tacoma.
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Im 2000 when I bought my Tacoma Prerunner SR5 4x4, it was $23k out the door! In 2019, I bought a Tacoma SR5 4X4 for $42k. I've put sbout 76k miles on my newer truck and my older truck has about 287k miles yet when comparing both of them. The engine smoothness and the trucks direct response to the pedal...the truck just has a direct feel whereas I have to consttpush fiether down to get more from the newer truck because of the whole setup with Tacoma being forced to save fuel mileage and emissions. Thats another oddity because for 18 gallons on the old truck, I was able to get about 330-390 miles depending on how i drive. On my newer Tacoma, the gas capacity is 21 gallon and has between 330-400 miles depending on how I drive. I don't see any great improvement on fuel economy...they might as well worked on engine response and just kept the damn same old engine. Yes I even had a head gasket failure at 54k....the newer Tacoma are literally designed to fail. Tundra? I shouldn't be surprised if the same thing was done but the cost has literally gone through the roof! Im thinking of an SUV and im going with Lexus. Yes, although Lexus is made by Toyota...for that kind of pricing, Im expecting Lexus level of innovation, quality and refinement....not some scrap up model with parts from Prius here, Camry there and Tacoma here for the price of what i would usually expect Lexus or other more luxury brand.
I have a 2019 Tundra Limited I purchased for $46k (listed $54k) and I have been offered more than list for mine! I have 36k easy miles on it - 5.7l v8 - mint condition. Still runs perfect. . I still won’t sell it! No compelling reason to do so. Certainly not for a new one.
It’s a $45K truck, and they are asking $75K. …… that’s why they can’t sell them!
Many range $70-90k here in TX. That said, I see the new ones EVERYWHERE here.
1500 dollars payment
The consumers have the power. If we don't buy, it will force them to react and correct.
You would think that. But people will lay down the cash even at inflated prices.
@@bmstylee some are, but like the video states vehicles are accumulating at dealerships because a lot let people aren't buying. There will always be the fortunate enough to buy a brand new truck every 3-5 years.
Not really, they still sell coke and bud light and have wnba on tv that no one watches. IOW the crooks will finance whatever agenda they want to push. Ban straws but not the plastic bottles/list goes on and on.
Wrong! The anti car people have endless patience and play on greed and weakness and heavy handed authority. England trying to outlaw fixing cars 15 years old.
@@bigamigo4863 That's not what I heard. When I went to my local dealership they didn't have a lot of these trucks. They only had 3 Tundras and a couple Tacomas. They said the TRD Pros sell as soon as they get them in.
Now I know snarky types will say "ohh they say they SAY" ... but I have eyes, and I know haters.
Blame Joe Biden for the prices not Toyota.
Tacomas 30k, Tundras 40k, that will sell them. The rest of those prices are just pure greed and people know it. That's why they sit.
To be fair then sequoias should be 50k. So many people saying trucks should be 2 dollars but the 90k suvs are ok because they added some carpet and back seats and a longer roof
I don't think I've heard a single person say that 90k suvs are okay 😂 car prices all over right now are way to high that's why they can't sell anything. No shot I'm paying 54k for a bare bones truck no shot I'm paying 90k for an SUV it's that simple I guarantee I'm not the only one
With used car prices dropping like a rock, plus insurance and maintenance costs thru the roof, I'm not sure I'd even pay 40 for the tundra lol
In 2015 I leased a new Tacoma TRDOR with the Premium pkg and an MSRP of $32K. In 2018 I leased a new 2018, same features, having an MSRP of $36K. My current 2021 Taco, with the same package, jumped to an MSRP of $45K and in 2024 the same featured vehicle now carries an MSRP of over $53K. That 'effing insane and pure greed on the part of Toyota.
Tacomas 25 and Tundras 35 will sell other ways will rust in the lot..
Prices are still at least $30k too high, and with the interest rates where they are, consumers are holding on to what they already have.
These stealerships are feeling the consequences now. As a customer, I will always remember the stealerships who charge ridiculous markups because they could at the time.
Yeah, I totally 2nd that 👍🏼
not much you can do about it except buy used vehicles if that time ever comes again. They will always have power, even if they have hardships now.
A 6cyl turbo tundra is a bad investment.
A V8 or a 6 without a turbocharger might do it.
Build back better 🤡
The dealer called me asking if I wanted to trade in my 2018 Tundra limited for the new Tundra at a great deal. My reply to him was that without the 5.7 and all the new turbo crap on the new one there is no way this farmer would do so.
Smart. Wait until the install a V-8. Otherwise, let Morans buy these dumb trucks.
That's it right there. The tundra is (or was) Toyota's answer to the f150 and 1500... With a V8. No laborer wants a finicky, under torqued, overpriced show truck. We want a dependable, comfortable work truck we can take pride in.
@@globetrotter7778 after working on jaguars and BMWs that did this same "turbos for fuel economy" malarkey, it's not worth a little more torque IMO. Stock turbos are always, *always* trouble for years.
@@globetrotter7778 it's just a mechanical fact. Toyota is by far the most well engineered vehicles IMO but you put a turbo on a daily driver and it makes problems. They're great if you're a car guy and keep up with everything but that's not how most people live. Too much city driving they gunk up, shut it off too soon too often and they burn oil and seize. We'll see what time says but the I force v8s were almost perfect. If you want economy you get a Tacoma 🤷♂️
@@TheHonestPeanut Those are some facts. Too many don't care enough for their vehicles and in cities, the percentage of pickup owners who actually use their vehicles to tow, haul or go off-roading is shockingly low.
When you get rid of the reliable and simple V8 and bring twin turbo V6 and put a ridiculous price tag on the truck, you won’t sell it! Thanks for the video
Plus the fit and finish is absolutely horrendous. Squeak, rattle, clunk, wind noise, etc., etc.
Or just the interest rates are crazy high with high MRSP
We bought one of the last new 21s. Just couldn’t see going with a turbo v6 in my high dirt environment. I’m afraid for the future of tough, reliable working trucks at this point. My old 95 chevy dually will be roaming the roads like the last t-Rex 🦖 while those plastic princess trucks sit in a junkyard. My 21 limited isn’t the truck my 14 sr5 was. The 21 needs a trans cooler and those new trucks don’t even have tow hooks. Every iteration of new Toyotas is getting more glammy and less functional.
No squeaks, rattles, and wind noise from my 12' Altima so i'm keeping it. CVT is still in great shape also in it's 13th year on the road.@@trex860
The V8 was a gas hog POS they made the right decision ditching it
It makes me happy to see dealership hurting and having vehicles sitting on the lot just like precovid. There were charging through the roof with their “market adjustments” when customers are not stupid. Not just for Toyota but for all makers. Exactly how it should be, no one should ever pay over sticker for any vehicle let alone the ridiculous interest rates they are charging.
The price of vehicles went up but my paycheque didn’t.
Bidenomics is working
All the free money Uncle Joe gave out made the money in your pocket worth less.
@@junzilla13 Biden have money. Politicians have money. Their projects are fully funded with the inflation reduction bill. Other projects are fully funded by redirected covid relief funds. Their coffers are full, and they're spending it. Biden isn't lying when he's saying our economy have never been better. The governments purchasing power have never been better.
Our checks never go up as fast as cost do
@@junzilla13 Trump genomics.
Democrats can't change any of the rules Trump established. Trump can't change anything. Only congress.
But morons will cry its Biden and have ZERO understanding of how our legislative process works.
The other big issue for me, regardless of make is that no one stocks a 6.5" foot bed. The little 5' bed on the back of most half tons are worthless. I use my truck for hauling in the bed and a 5' bed is worthless.
It’s used for hauling kale in town 😂
I tow my car with my truck. I prefer the larger cab with smaller bed. The bed is for track wheels and tools. 5' is perfect!
The problem is ,people are tired of getting screwed !!!
The auto industry forgets that they are supposed to develop a product the average man can afford.
Screw that - the manufacturers only care about selling $100k cars to the wealthy. The rest of us will just have to settle for used vehicles - it's our "new normal". FJB
So Toyota is offending me by thinking that I’m a dumb ass idiot that I will pay them 71K for a six cylinder truck with a FKING battery
Great explanation! 😅😅😅😅
What’s the difference if the alternative is a turbo V6 from one of the other manufacture?
Nailed it!
@leeheverly Nissan still offers the V8 in their Titan Pro4x. I love mine and I love that sound of that sweet V8. 😁
"offending me" lol, grow a pair pal
I really hope ppl stop buying new cars and trucks until there’s a large price adjustment and until manufacturers sell directly.
That’s what I been saying for years. Falls on deaf ears though. Those morons paying Stealership prices are screwing the rest of us from ever seeing fair price tags again.
@@davidjon13 they are screwing themselves more
They will never to to direct sale. The manufacturers make money off the dealerships even when the vehicles aren't selling
@@davidjon13The real elephant in the room here is the devaluation of the U.S. dollar . . .
Even $10,000 off is still too little they need to come down to reality on price
Cut the price at least 20k
Prices needs to come down at least 75%- 90 % off
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Yeah these are $50K trucks… not $70-80K…
Unpopular opinion. I see so many of these videos, yes the price is high but if you look at it, inflation is up like 22% since 2020 so that 55.5k with inflation is 68k, you add all the tech that the previous model was missing and you can see where they got the price. It's not exclusive to the Tundra, it's the whole auto industry and everything Else.
Yes prices are too high but it's high for everything. Candy bars were 35 cents when i went to school 30 years ago, now that Snickers is like $3. Inflation is crazy.
Bought a '23 Tundra and got rid of it 3 months later with only 1,800 mi. I'm a Toyota fan for over 20 years, my last '18 Tundra was an awesome truck minus the MPG. This new '23 Tundra was a pile of crap. So many issues and Toyota would not fix any of the issues including dead throttle.....it would lose throttle randomly for 2-3 seconds. Opened a case with Toyota USA and they told me unless I can replicate it at the dealerships lot, they will not help. Got rid of that truck before it puts me and my family in a bad spot for a wreck. Moved on to a GMC Sierra 1500 3.0 Duramax. Such a nice truck and not a single issue now 20k plus miles. And I'm averaging 28mpg...unbelievable.
Who would have thought people are preferring food and housing over a new truck. The economy is in the toilet, no one in their right mind would pay 6-7% on a 60K+ truck.
Stock Market at all time high! Biden nomics rocking! You'll see it in another mth or two..
@@shekelberggoldstein1387funny
Other than inflation which has been decreasing since the summer of 2022 the economy is doing FAR FAR BETTER under Biden than when donald left office
People forget we were in depression or at the very least a recession in 2020, the US and world economy collapsed in 2020 and that’s what 46 came into office to
Inflation is currently around 3.1% which is just barely at normal inflation levels of 2-3 percent
What SPECIFIC biden policy do you think created the initial inflation
The dealership in Victor Ville has a lot of tundras and many with a $6k discount! But they also have 8-10k in added markup..
That isn't a discount, it's still a markup! They just lessened the markup.
@@Rick-lf1wy correct that’s why I said what the park up is. To show they aren’t fooling anyone!
I'd definitely buy one if they took $28500 off and brought back the v8
It’d be tough, but I could probably talk myself into getting one for 28.5k off msrp.. on second thought, 38.5k off
Emissions standards are the reason why the V8 is no longer around.
I wonder why the government doesn’t require a water based paint to help protect the environment! 🤡🤡🤡🤡 The Gov shouldn’t dictate the type of transportation we choose to buy.
@@LoneWolfSpartylol what are you talking about , trucks still got v8 engines, my brother bought a ram hemi with a v8 and my buddy got a charger rt (which are selling “cheap”) which slso has a v8
@@Ellis1127v8 didn’t go away fyi Toyota has a market outside of the US who prefer small vehicles
Toyota is a Japanese manufacturer
It definitely revolves around durability, price ( currently at beyond insane levels ), and options available ( V8's, mechanical controls, no push to start, ect ).
Simply put. The prices they're charging (automakers across the board) are absurd. Even if the economy wasn't in shambles, I still wouldn't pay such ridiculous prices.
What is believe is happening is they will keep pricing high and force dealers to sell there dealerships so in the future they can sell on line like tesla is doing
Agreed. Something has got to give…
I wonder how much all of the complexity of that ridiculous auto stop start adds to MSRP? About double the number of computers and sensors
@@UntamedMotors $8.500 off a truck that is already overpriced by 30K is not a deal lol
This is what happens when a corporation allows dealers to mark up a vehicle. Too many people are frustrated with these stealerships and now have been jaded by the BS and won't stand for it. The people that bought the 22's at insane mark ups are responsible for the BS as well. Looks like I'm holding onto my 2018 for a while longer.
United States is in absolute distress. Who gives a shit about having a new fancy vehicle at this point is how I feel about it.
My way of thinking as well. Canada too.
Yep, our government and our judicial system is an absolute joke. At this point every man for himself…
The US has an economy every country on earth wishes they had. Nice shit bagging on the USA because Toyota Tundras are expensive. The problem is candy asses who whine like a bitch over the dumbest shit on earth. "Tundras are expensive that means the USA is pure shit..where is my woobie!"
And this is just the beginning.
People are worried about what's about to happen in their lives in the next four or five years. They don't see having a $50,000 note on a pickup truck as making that situation better.
Time for these companies to learn that there is a limit to what people will pay. THEY BETTER WAKE UP!
I sold my new 2022 Tundra SR 5 back in January of this year with 7,842 miles on the odometer. At about 5,000 I noticed a thump sound from the engine on cold start. I never took it to the dealer that I bought it from just to be told that they could not duplicate the problem. I sold the truck to a dealer while the value was still reasonable. I don’t regret selling the Tundra after researching the 2022 - 2024 Tundra problems coming to light. Thanks for sharing your video.
Smart move.....trouble because Toyota is turning away from what made then the world leader.
You answered your own question, $20k increase in 3 MY versions and interest rates trippled. Who can afford $1k+ monthly payment plus insurance and maintenance. Just ridiculous
No V8 and the turbo nonsense. Tacomas will be sitting as well soon, no V6 and more turbo crap.
Yep. I just bought a new Nissan Frontier, less expensive than a Tacoma and still has a V-6. Tacoma is a 4-cylinder turbo now. Plus, I think Frontier is a better looking truck.
Need to go back to naturally asperated. Turbo's will bankrupt the customer. The bearings must sieze in due time.
@@CoinHound how u like the frontier? I bought a tacoma and sold it 5 months later. Really overhyped and expensive for bare bones.
Turbo is a waste of money for gas it's not a sport car you are right they get rid of it the old engine like v8 and over priced the useless engine what a joke😂
I will only buy v8
Talking to a friend in the business, corporate side, back in 21 he was saying Toyota is seeing people playing these huge markups, so he was afraid that Toyota would raise their msrp since we proved we would pay these stupid prices, so we did it to ourselves i think honestly by overpaying
Absolutely the truth
Take it from me (PLEASE!) an owner of a 22’ Tundra and let me sum things up…for starters the infotainment system sucks and the front doors flex because they’re HUGE, over 6’ diagonally and I hear it daily driving. Can’t imagine taking offroad. Contacting Toyota’s help line netted ZERO help. $63K then $38K now offered at trade in with 10,500 miles clean as a whistle. 😢
brutal depreciation
That depreciation is like the big three !
Lol 38k on trade in if that doesn't let you know you overpaid I don't know what does.
Please buy used and let the bubble unwind itself next time
For dummies like you, everyone gets screwed with high prices. Go 😢 😭 in your room....
It's crazy!! I just saw a used 2014 Toyota Tundra with 187,000 miles go for $25,995! It's time for consumers to take back our buying power and stall out on all of these car dealerships!
Needs to be triple that discount. I found an sr5 SX package that caught my eye but $3600 off a $52000 truck isn’t doing it for me. $11000 off and I make that deal.
You are being way too generous. Hold your horses and watch another 10% melt off 🤑
Give it a couple of months and then ask for $18,000 or $21,000 off MSRP
Meanwhile, in Canada, the waiting list for a standard Corolla is 9 to 12 months and the hybrid is more than 2 years. The Camry hybrid is similar, around a 2.5 year wait after you submit your order.
Six cylinder for 71K😂😂😂😂😂 I will never buy a tundra again if it has a six cylinder
Ditto on that, keeping my 2020 until I am dead or the wheels fall off, whichever happens first!
@@bettysmith4527 I’m keeping my 2019 tundra forever till death do us part 😊😎i love that 5.7 v8
That 6 Turbo outperforms the POS 5.7v8 in every category pulling and much higher MPG. Only a caveman with low IQ would want that 5.7 POS back
The price on the 5.7 will skyrocket and soon be worth more than those pony as new trucks.. bring back the v8😡
Yeah well when you’re selling a 70k+ truck with a 7.99 interest rate it really discourages you from buying.
Wait, according to the current administration, the economy is great!
@@silverblue9286 yeah I dont buy it. Cant wait till he gets voted out.
@@silverblue9286 🤣
$ 75,000 for a truck is outrageous, especially with known recalls and issues with the engines and bearings. I was planning to trade in my 2020 Tacoma and upgrade to the Tundra TRD pro, but the prices and the problems have convinced me to keep my 20 Tacoma. Cut the greed and put the prices back to where they belong and fix the recalls and other issues on The manufacturers dime and these trucks will start selling again. And this goes for all other truck market.
weeee caaant afffooord iiit!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Wait, according to the current administration, the economy is great!
@@silverblue9286 remember that when you get to the voting booth this November.
Okay, just test drove a TRD Pro iForce Max and this is my takeaway (and reasons I passed in no particular order):
-Composite Bed
-Small Bed
-Plastic Bumpers
-No Bed Step
-No Recovery Hooks
-Tire Tread Depth (really Toyota?)
-Just Plain Ugly
-No Rear Under Seat Storage
-Little Rear Headroom (sunroof)
-Priced Equivalent To 3/4Ton
-Squat, Little Payload
…other than that, well, it’s a damn good truck. Pretty quick and comfortable too. Just not what I need at that price point.
Even with $8500 off it is still not a good price. Very eaay to understand why not selling.
In 2021 the buyer's were obviously idiots.
They will have to hold those trucks longer to break even and not end up with negative equity.
Luckily it’s not a GM or Stellantis product, these trucks can make it til the end of those payments 😎
lol that pro isn't 8500 off
@@DudetaketheBusNew Toyotas aren't even lasting that long, either. The new engines that Toyota stuffed in the trucks are eating themselves apart from turbos going belly up to bearings getting loose. Not to mention a couple months ago when some SUVs had a recall for a potential wheel to pop off. Haven't heard issues from Honda lately.
Crazy money .. I'm still daily driving my Gen 1 , 2002 Tundra . V8 , 4.7 , limited .228 k miles . Runs great . No monthly payments . Low insurance payments. Low tax ( blue state , property tax ) almost zero repairs . Best vehicle I ever owned .
Dealerships could start doing RUclips videos about how they are failing. That might be their only source of income someday.
It will be entertaining
lol that’d offer a nice insider feel 😆
Let them stack up. High msrp and high interest rates. Everyday living expenses currently have gone way up.
New Tundra frontend 💩💩
Even the new Trd pros are up over 20k vs the model you have. They just aren’t worth 20+k more than the older ones just 3 years ago go. How can a top of the line one for 53-54k just 3 years ago now 75k. Even back then you could get 3k off a Trd 4runner or tundra etc. people are not stupid. No one will just pay these huge number’s with interest rates at 8% as well. .
But people are stupid, look at all the idiots that took clot shot that media told them to. The same media that refuses to look into Epstein Island "visitors". You're probably wearing a mask right now.
I have a 16 tacoma that I plan to sell within the next two years and upgrade to a 4th gen TRD PRO. I'm hoping to profit from the recent dealership struggles
It's not about how much OFF the price you are getting. It's the actual price at the end of it that we can't stomach. Having that much off a vehicle should be a mark of shame like "we over charged people by this much" smh.
Exactly they should have their tail between their legs. But they act like they’re being so generous with a small discount
exactly. I always look at these huge discounts as what the original price should have been
Bring back the V8, and drop the price 25-30 percent. Then offer low interest rates. Its not rocket science.
No, without the v8 it's worth less. What toyota needs to do to sell Tundras: pull their heads out of their asses and bring back the 5.7 v8, lower the MSRP.
they cant without a rework getting 13mpg isnt what the govt wants
Getting rid of the V8 is due to upcoming emissions standards. Blame the government for that. Toyota realize that EVERYBODY loves the V8.
@@jddarby007Toyota should have used their money together with the other Truck manufacturers and give the Government a big middle finger.
If Trump gets elected, maybe then he will tell NHTSA bureaucrats to go F themselves. Biden will never do it, that's for certain.@@callofdutyguy9
@@jddarby007how come everyone else still makes a V8?
I'm a Toyota guy, too, but watching this makes my long ago paid for 23 year old Dodge Ram with it's still strong running 5.9 litre Magnum V8 look WAAAAY better!! 6 cylinders, turbos, hybrids, that UGLY sheet metal, all at those prices. WHAT were they thinking?!
5.9 cummins 6cly turbo, one of the best motors out there soooo. 🙊
The 3g Tundra is a huge let down. 1g tundra was consistently popular and loved, 2g Tundra hit the market swinging big D with a nearly 3/4 ton class frame, massive brakes, massive transmission and massive capabilities which made everyone run back to the drawing board. Then the 3g hype train came along and had peoples expectations very high with the leaked "world beater" bs. What do we get? A Tacoma XL with ridiculous "bumpers" and strange design choices. You can tell all the truck budget went to the Tacoma and the Tundra got the crumbs.
Toyota can salvage this gen by giving it a major face lift and I emphasis on the lift part. Pick up it's dumb underbite, give it steel bumper options front and rear, tone down the massive bs grill, and give the 4x4 Tundra and the Sequoia a suspension lift. Bring back the bench seat option, especially for the double cab. That center console isn't doing any favors for rear seat legroom. Bring back the V8.
Even with the mark-ups in my area, people are still on waiting lists to get a 2024 Tundra and especially the 1794 and Limited. I’m not surprised, this is California and people rarely get sticker shock anymore.
As a contractor that use his truck to tow a cargo trailer everyday with my 2008 tundra 5.7 i have a few problems with the new tundra.
1- no more leafs springs, coils with air bags on some models we all know coils tow like garbage
2- SR base model that is basicly the go model for contractors don’t tow as much as the other models less horsepower
3- with the tailgate down there is no way of getting inside the bed to get your tools with the corners of the bumper boxed in.
4- twin turbo engine that gets almost the same mpg as the 5.7L
5- if i look at my 16yr old truck and look at the new tundra im not sure if the reliablity is still there for long therm.
6- as a toyota fan im not sure when my old tundra is done i will go with the same brand very disappointed in the new tundra
Crazy to think, my local greedy dealer still has markups on all tundras, Tacomas and 4Runners
Yep and those greedy SOBS will be paying interest on those suckers for many months to come. They're thieves.
I have an SR5 but got the premium with air bags, tow package, power package and tech package…so I have the big screen and heated softex seats for only $55k
I put my own choice of lift kit and wheels so not missing the TRD package.
Nobody wants to, nor can they afford even reduced prices. Bring over the small 10k vehicles from overseas. I just want something to get from A to B reliably or haul what I need to haul. We don't need more tech than nasa in our vehicles
Exactly. Toyota must be manipulated by the clowns in DC to try and jam this overpriced junk. Wake up, America. Do NOT BUY junk.
I’m curious what the invoice prices are on these trucks. I’ve bought many new vehicles for a couple hundred bucks over invoice in the past and a couple under invoice.
Stick to naturally aspirated engines and get rid of the turbo
Turbos are just Expensive Trouble. Shove the turbos back to Japan. Wake up, Toyota Management.....you look like Fools, copying the methods of American Morans! Shame!
Just got a Nissan Frontier Pro4X. Simple and reasonably priced. And it has a 6 banger naturally aspirated motor.
The manufacturers figured out a trick to shorten the lifespan of an engine with turbo. Turbo is so 80's
@@LuisRamos-jw7zrthat's awesome, I'm going to look at those, thank you.
naturally aspirated, manual, 2wd,, no keyless entry bullshit,
I work at a Toyota dealership as a technician. I prep the new cars and am not surprised these don't sell. We have 10 of them that haven't moved in months. The interior is super cheap. Anyone who has one or test drives one i have a suggestion. The giant cheap square plastic vent on the drivers side pulls right off with no effort and brings an entire piece over the instrument cluster with it. No joke a quick pull with one hand can have you holding a foot of interior trim. I think I could dismantle quite a bit with no tools.
Insurance is outrageous
insurance is why i have not made a loan for a newer car, my quotes are 4k per year.
Indeed. The insurance business is a racket to begin with. You are requires by law to have coverage, but there's no cap on how much they can charge you & they can raise rates & or cancel your coverage at any time for no reason. The mafia used the same system.
Through the roof and people driving like maniacs and under-insured isn't helping 😭
Yeah, gotta pay more for one on my end too. Craziness.
45 years of purchasing vehicles in Utah and I have NEVER been able to close a deal with Ken Garff. Ken Garff dealers are ALWAYS thousands more than competitors. 78k for a Tundra... it's going to sit. They have new 2022 Ram's on their lot that they refuse to lower the price. Imagine what they have paid in floor plan costs over that amount of time. They'll need a 100k now just to brake even.
Thanks for your service man. Went to a dealership in FL and the stupid sales manager gave me a price with mark-up. Told him he can keep it. Went and bought Ram HD for the less.
Its because for the majority of people a 60k truck is financial napalm. Car manufacturers became used to the idea that consumers would be able to buy trucks with nearly free loans. While car loan interest is averaging above 10% these expensive trucks will struggle.
the automakers have left their core market behind in affordability.over the last decade, they have milked all the cows dry.GREED often supplies its own ending.
the cure for high prices is high prices.
Thanks man for your video. How is the Grand Highlander Hybrid Inventory and the sale prices?
I mean Ford and GM keep their v8's as an option to their trucks. They could always blow the dust off the 4.7 or the 5.7 v8's or even use the 5.0 out of the LC500 which is still in production for now.
Smart idea. Hello Toyota Management.....can U read English????
I don’t know where you are, but in Texas you can’t find a Tundra or a Sequoia in stock. I had to wait for mine for 4+ months and before I ordered I had the chance to get one and before I made it to the dealer it was sold.
Dealerships shouldn’t have been so greedy. Now they are paying the price, literally.
The problem lies that some people are still buying them. The new Tacoma is selling quick by people who are impulsive. I don't see the prices dropping any time soon.
Yeah people are quick to spend money they don’t have. 😬
I want one, but only with a V-8
New to your channel.
The MSRP on all vehicles right now is insane. As you pointed out in a previous video, people need to look at the true cost of owning the vehicle as you pointed out. That means initial purchase price, insurance, maintenance cost and fueling the vehicle over time. Once you sit down and factor all those things in reality sets in. If it means paying your mortgage and feeding your family, a responsible person will not make such a decision. All vehicle manufacturers need to go back to listening to their customer base.
Note: The last Brand New Truck I bought was my 1998 Dodge Dakota R/T, I paid $18K for it from Dealership. I still own this Truck today, 26 years later it only has 79,000 miles on it. Still runs like it did when I bought it new. Why do I need a 2024? Really I don’t, and today’s trucks are over inflated prices, period. I can’t afford these new trucks today, anyways they not worth the money!
Most people that buy a truck will put 80k miles on it 4.5 to 6 yrs
Also Georgia vet
During post Covid shortages our Scottsdale dealership sold a 24 limited hybrid for $80k. Insane. We have both the 24 limited & 24 Plat hybrid but I feel most will sell when they offer 1.9% financing. My dealership just unloaded 20+ Tundra's April-May most of which were financed.
Truck prices rose much faster than the bulk of people paychecks. Case closed. It's not crazy, its TOO.MUCH.MONEY!!! By Xmas of 2024 most of these dealerships will close.
It won't even take that long
Trying to sell a 40K truck for +70K is utterly insane and people who would fork over that much are nuts.
I’m blessed to be able to afford any truck I desire; however, paying today’s prices is absurd. Paying close to $80k (after tax, tile, license and dealer fees), for a TRD Pro is insane. I went from driving a 22 Raptor and considering a 24 TRD Pro, to now driving a Ridgeline. I bought it for $2,500 under invoice and 1.9% financing. Blast me by saying it’s not a truck….I don’t give a shit. It’s more of a truck to me than the Raptor was. My payment is $400/month. The days of driving overpriced boujee trucks to go to Costco are over for most people.
I'm a Toyota fan boy also.Just bought a new Frontier s 4wd.29000 difference trading in a 2014 F150 regular cab 2wd with 165000 miles and a failing transmission.
Sounds like your more of a ford fanboi
You mean Ford Fan Boi?
Ford fan you mean?
Fords aren't running car rack steering yet are they like Toy and Nissan?
Isn’t it nice to see the lots filling up actually, I want to get back to getting a deal again like we use to. Even if they still screwing us it’s nice to feel like you getting something
I wasn’t a fan of Terra initially but after seeing it out in the direct sun, it’s really a great color that looks so different between sun and clouds. But I also think the smaller 4Runner wears it better than the larger vehicles.
Love my Terra Pro Tundra !
It needs the V8 to make it attractive. The sound of the V8 is awesome and it can easily be enhanced. The price tag is way too high. A recent poll said that 83% of the people in the U.S. can’t afford to buy a new car or truck now. Toyota is competing for 17% of buyers and the price with a V6 is just too high. Maybe if you gave the price incentive off the MSRP and lowered the interest rate to finance it for 60 or 72 months? Just my opinion.
GX550 Overtrail looks more interesting than a Tundra TrdPro at same price. If one really NEEDED a truck, one wouldn't be needing a TrdPro in the first place. So many 4x4s to choose from.
Correct, i've never seen a single TRDPro or Raptor owner use their vehicle as an actual truck. The one's I know offroad them 1-3 times then goes around boasting about how they offroad their vehicles but then keeps it as a pavement princess all the way till they sell it.
What State are you in. Im looking for a Tundra but no good inventory in California.
I’d consider 55k with a 2.9 or lower rate. We all know that’ll never happen.
Ford is offering 2.9 for 72 months
@@TheVanillagorilla12actually, I bought a new F150 a few weeks ago and got 1.9 for 72 months
@@calientemac1not a Lariat I’m assuming. That’s my problem is they never offer these incentives on higher trim levels.
@@threadoflifeactually I could’ve bought a Lariat for 1.9 at 72 months. I chose no to because the truck didn’t have the equipment I wanted and I personally don’t care for leather seats. To me leather seats are just a waste of money. The 1.9 for 72 months was on all 2023 F150s
4 years ago Toyota refused to bargain on truck prices, which pushed many over to Chevy, gmc, and ford. Now they can’t get ride with 8500 off?!
The bunny @2:32 got me
That's a part of the Cheyenne package (Optional).
I love my 2024 TRD Pro. It has tons of power, drives like a dream. Love the newer technology. I have zero complaints.
Im still trying to figure out who can afford a 75,000 work truck? That used to be luxury car money....and still sort of is. You can get a pretty decent used Maserati for that kind of money.
No one thats why they are sitting and rotting on lots with 5 miles on them... people have finally told the makers to F-Off
Plenty of used Corvettes in high $60s through $70s too.
You can get a 200 mph Vette for less than a Silverado. Insane!
Vehicle prices are too high and interest rates are too high, keeping many from buying a new vehicle right now. Manufacturers and dealers are trying to keep the inflated pandemic/chip shortage prices in place and people arent having it. The industry as a whole needs to come back down to reality. Im about to turn in a lease and rather than buy or lease a new vehicle, Im choosing to turn my lease in and just drive my paid for 2007 GMC Sierra for a while until things normalize a bit. Oh yeah, I should add that many like myself are tired of seeing all these trucks, and other vehicles, move away from V8's and V6's too these turbo 4 cylinders. So, many may be looking for used vehicles that arent under powered. I love my V8 Sierra. I certainly hope this changes. Turbo 4's arent a good replacement.
Can u do a review on the GEN 5 Toyota 4Runner.. what prices are you seeing .There’s very few on the lot new and used down here in Florida where I’m at. And the new ones they are still wanting to start off at MSRP with no incentives or help on price.
When I was shopping, I thought the Limited and SR5 offered more value than the higher trims. Untamed’s dislikes are actually not present on a limited (red logo on steering wheel, wider turning radius).
make a good one that doesn't have the 9000000 extra things that it doesn't need.
EXACTLY
Tundra has the SR that starts at 40k.
I had a 2022 and it was an ok truck until the engine seized at 28,000 miles. After six months, I finally got my Lemon Law buyback check. No more Toyota’s for me, back in a real truck, GMC HD and love it!
Yea Pretty Truck. Don't Dare put Bricks Gravel or Sand in it. So it's basically USELESS
My Wifes Audi S-Q8 has a MASSIVE 4.0 L Twin Turbo V-8 that is an absolute Peach to drive, Effortless power everywhere!! The V-6 has no business in a full size truck!!
30% off! Then I’ll buy one.
45%
35 %.....
No front recovery hooks. No auto 4wd. And the hybrid adds expense and complication without much of a gain in fuel milage. Thats why I removed it from my short list to replace my ‘17 F150.
My buddy's dad just traded in his 23 Tundra for a 24 Titan because he needs a NA V8 for towing.
The man said it didn't tow as much as the specs stated and it struggled allot to pull 7K LBS up a steep hill, we live in Nevada.
It's just crazy that Toyota killed the V8 in the Tundra/Sequoia and the V6 in the Tacoma.
Who would have thought that 6 cylinders would struggle compared to 8 cylinders for the same load.
10% interest on a $100k truck is a $1,000.00 a month. And now the new Tacoma drivetrain breaks spinning tires on ice.
@@on2wheels275 😂 tag, insurance, gap insurance and note is going to be $3k a month.
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Im 2000 when I bought my Tacoma Prerunner SR5 4x4, it was $23k out the door! In 2019, I bought a Tacoma SR5 4X4 for $42k. I've put sbout 76k miles on my newer truck and my older truck has about 287k miles yet when comparing both of them. The engine smoothness and the trucks direct response to the pedal...the truck just has a direct feel whereas I have to consttpush fiether down to get more from the newer truck because of the whole setup with Tacoma being forced to save fuel mileage and emissions. Thats another oddity because for 18 gallons on the old truck, I was able to get about 330-390 miles depending on how i drive. On my newer Tacoma, the gas capacity is 21 gallon and has between 330-400 miles depending on how I drive. I don't see any great improvement on fuel economy...they might as well worked on engine response and just kept the damn same old engine. Yes I even had a head gasket failure at 54k....the newer Tacoma are literally designed to fail. Tundra? I shouldn't be surprised if the same thing was done but the cost has literally gone through the roof! Im thinking of an SUV and im going with Lexus. Yes, although Lexus is made by Toyota...for that kind of pricing, Im expecting Lexus level of innovation, quality and refinement....not some scrap up model with parts from Prius here, Camry there and Tacoma here for the price of what i would usually expect Lexus or other more luxury brand.
My cousin bought the I -FORCE MAX he hate he sold his 2021 now
I have a 2019 Tundra Limited I purchased for $46k (listed $54k) and I have been offered more than list for mine! I have 36k easy miles on it - 5.7l v8 - mint condition. Still runs perfect. . I still won’t sell it! No compelling reason to do so. Certainly not for a new one.
My 2017 Platinum stickered for same and only 86k miles still worth 35k which isn't bad. Traded it in on 24 Pro and really enjoy new truck vs old gen.
It's not "greed" on the part of Toyota, it's pure stupidity on the part of numb-skulls who gladly sign their names to the loans & leases.
People are always quick to spend money they don’t have…