The thing that impresses me the most about Sanguinius is that they made a character who's whole thing is being the best and most beloved person in the galaxy and he actually ended up being one of the most beloved characters out of universe.
His selflessness and martyrdom take what would otherwise be a Mary Sue and makes him a true hero. His speech before the Infinity Gate is worthy of the classics.
I'm 39 and just found put about it last year. Do yourself a huge favor and look up Helsreach. It's a fan made movie that's better than anything Hollywood has made in 15 years.
there's about 3 years worth of free lore videos on YT if you subscribe to Leutin09, baldermort, a border prince, oculous imperia, a vox in the void, just to name a few ...
I love how in the actual meeting of Sang and The Emp they were both dead locked reading each other's souls and thoughts in real time. It wasn't exactly a tearful reunion. Angel drew lines in the sand and Emps agreed. Which is why Baal and its moons are still a wasteland til the present day.
I wish the Lion has done something similar because reading what the Imperium has done to Caliban, tearing up the forests, strip mining and popping up arcologies in place of the ancient fortress towns had damaged the very being of Caliban...ignoring all the taint and Oroborus that is. And the very character of the Legion was affected by the noble image of the Order defending the people against the Great Beasts had changed with their departure for the Great Crusade and removed the Legion from the direct view of their duty, saving the people from the threats that befell them. I might be reading too much into it but reading what was done to Caliban just brought to mind how Sanguinius drew that line for the Emperor and managed to keep Baal as it was.
Not just a just and fair leader, but a just and fair man. Beloved by all while carrying the weight that comes from being perceived as nigh perfect. Never again will such a hero shine.
Imperial Iterator..... You fastly grow to be counted amongst the top Loremasters of the WH40K Universe. Your approach to the lore in an unbiased viewpoint can be seen as heretical but sense that you feel that only in truth can the Imperium of Man truly dominate the Universe in total. Continue in your great work, we all will be watching.
We are tested, and we do not break. We will never fall! It is not the descent toward the shadow nor the rise toward the light that makes us superior. It is the endless struggle between the two that greatness of character lies.
Can you imagine in 1 million years, they find these archeological findings of 40k lore, and people start to believe it for what happened to humanity, and then they start a warhammer religion.
I was never fond of the official artwork for the most beloved son (and I say that as a fan of the Lion and his sons) but the fan set for him is often amazing, especially the one at 7:03. I always thought he should have a somewhat effeminate but strong look like Griffith from Beserk or Elric of Melniboné...just not pale as death.
Or would have ended up dead way faster. Sanguinius would be the easiest primearch to corrupt… without question. His son’s gene-flaw is a perfect weapon to be used against him by ANY chaos god. He is a good match for all of them…
Without your informative (and possibly heretical) vox-casts one would not have the proper context in which to worship the Emperor of Man. Thank you Iterator.
I’ve recently started getting into Warhammer, reading the Horus Heresy series and some other books. But nothing has gotten me more invested or excited into Warhammer than your videos, thank you so much for your hard work and dedication
@@ericfernandes3284 Thank you for this comment Dude....I have actually had a change of heart of late and figured out why it was impossible that Sanguineous could have ever been Warmaster. Those wings of his...those beautiful wings that made him an angel prevented him from ever being Warmaster. For an Imperium desperately trying to become Secular and do away with anything religious...having an Angel as Warmaster would have been horrendously counterproductive...as of course the people of the Imperium would have deified him and worshipped him (Which they did anyway after his death). The Emperor knew he couldn't make Sang. Warmaster and Horus was the natural selection. And as you prove in your post, If Sanguineous had become Warmaster and turned....the Imperium would have been lost. Sanguineous was too much loved and was too powerful...it would of spelled the end. I have read in many places now that the Horus Heresy or something like it was destined to happen no matter what...that the Emperor was just too great a threat to the chaotic powers to be allowed to continue and that the 4 powers would have figured out a way for a heresy of some form to have started no matter what...even if Sang. would have been Warmaster.
@@ericfernandes3284 Nope, no sarcasm, actually do agree with you. I have always been a Hawk Boy fan...I always thought Sanguineous was one of the best characters in the lore. I have found too that the more Horus Heresy Books you read, you see just how complex a character Sanguineous really was. He wasn't perfect....he certainly had flaws (Though not many) and I feel he was doomed from the beginning and I think the Emperor may have sensed that. Regardless, thanks for your response partner.
Big E was the one that killed Sanguinius during the Siege of Terra. After Sanguinius killed Horus. Big E could not have a competitor for the affections of mankind.
Can you make a video about food and eating in the 40k verse? There must be more than just corpse starch. I wonder what chaos marines eat, or the imperial army, orks and other races!
It is so cute that you apoligize for the names :) I'll be honest, it's nice to hear. But with this, your courage to take on these hours-long narrations only shines brigther, and you are SO forgiven. Thank you for many months worth of good, thoughtful entertainment!
The Emperor recognising the people of Baal and allowing them to live as they always have and carry their faith in Sanguinius is the real Emperor, the living father. It is just a shame that his humanity had to be sacrificed to create his sons and over time became cold and distant though reappearing from time to time. The Emperor, the true Emperor truly loves his sons and humanity.
Not sure if it’s your character or you’re truly and older person but if you are shout outs for making lore from the black library more accessible than reading all of the hundreds of books. RUclips is what got me interested in war hammer bc of it’s accessible nature and it has lead to me starting to read the Horus heresy to thanks for doing what you do
I think hes the coolest looking loyalist primarch and it be so cool to see the angel of death fight angron the world ending demon. I think im gonna build a diorama of that actually.
Both Sanguinius and Kurze saw what would happen. The Angel chose to save the Emperor, and Kurze chose to betray Him and to let himself be assassinated. Now, the question is: Which one of the sons of the Emperor should we trust?
This is the first time I'm hearing that the Emperor allowed Sanguinis to be viewed as a god. That seems so wildly out of character to me. Can't understand why he chose to make Horus warmaster over Sanguinius. Makes me think that Horus was correct, that it was always the Emperor's plan to become a god.
If I remember it correctly it was more of a "let the people choose for themself", dont force it on them, and since the angel joined the emperor one could argue that it was fairly certain that the people of Baal would do the same and align themself very well with the Imperium. So for me its more like of "how" and not "if" the imperial laws were brought to the people.
As a die hard Blood Angel fan, this is infuriating to listen to. In real life I loath dishonest and disloyal people Horus is the lowest of the low. Not only a traitor but you killed your brother!. I still believe the only reason (outside of this is how it was written) that The Great Angel fell was due to exhaustion and fatigue of battle besting that demon 2 times. As well as other minor demons before confronting his traitors brother. People love Sanguinius due to his reliability. His willingness to endure and put others before himself, knowing you will suffer in this case die and commit anyway is one of traits that makes a hero or a leader worth following.
I thought the new lore said that there was no damage to Horus's armour, no mortal wound that helped later on. Horus just toy'd with him for a while, trying to get him to fall to chaos, then just utterly smashed him without mercy. I think it said something like Horus beat him like a dog. It was really horrific....
The updated fluff - which is canon since it's officially from the owners of the content - protected the baby face (to borrow a term from professional wrestling) in describing the battle between Sanguinius and Horus. Sanguinius fought day in, day out, for months without rest. He fought entire companies on his own, multiple titans, a named Bloodthirster (again), then fought Angron and suffered a mortal wound that was slowly killing him. Meanwhile, Horus sat on his ship as a hollow battery just charging warp energy and never lifted a finger. He was fresh as a daisy on his ship when he fought the broken, battered, exhausted, and mortally wounded Sanguinius. It was known by both Horus and Sanguinius that the Angel could have gone farther to defeat Horus, but in order to do so, he would have had to surrender a part of himself to the power he felt within - which could have been for either Order or Chaos. Instead, he remained his broken self, but his own demise ensured his visions of foresight would end and Horus would never reach the surface of Terra. The Emperor, meanwhile, could have deleted Horus from existence at any time, but was hoping against hope that Horus could be turned back.
Some stories…will never be told…for mortal sanity…will never allow…the possibility… They think…we are mindless…only emotion…we can’t think…we are blasphemy incarnate…😈…if only…but…will those…some stories…ever be told?..
Daniel 12:1 “At that time Michael shall stand up, The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people; And there shall be a time of trouble, Such as never was since there was a nation, Even to that time. And at that time your people shall be delivered, Every one who is found written in the book.
Sanguinius is the textbook definition of the phrase “too pure for this world.”
The thing that impresses me the most about Sanguinius is that they made a character who's whole thing is being the best and most beloved person in the galaxy and he actually ended up being one of the most beloved characters out of universe.
His selflessness and martyrdom take what would otherwise be a Mary Sue and makes him a true hero. His speech before the Infinity Gate is worthy of the classics.
@@DeusExMachina10001 if sangy had survived and horus died the story would have ended before big E got entombed on the throne.
This is my introduction to 40k. How is it that I'm 40 years old and have never heard of this!!
I'm 39 and just found put about it last year. Do yourself a huge favor and look up Helsreach. It's a fan made movie that's better than anything Hollywood has made in 15 years.
It's free on RUclips
Check out luetin and Koda and isyander
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Welcome brother, you now live for the Emperor
Angron: squats warhound titan. Back broken, want to die
Sanguinius: wins a 1v1 with a larger chaos titan, makes it pop a void shield.
I love how in the actual meeting of Sang and The Emp they were both dead locked reading each other's souls and thoughts in real time. It wasn't exactly a tearful reunion. Angel drew lines in the sand and Emps agreed. Which is why Baal and its moons are still a wasteland til the present day.
I wish the Lion has done something similar because reading what the Imperium has done to Caliban, tearing up the forests, strip mining and popping up arcologies in place of the ancient fortress towns had damaged the very being of Caliban...ignoring all the taint and Oroborus that is. And the very character of the Legion was affected by the noble image of the Order defending the people against the Great Beasts had changed with their departure for the Great Crusade and removed the Legion from the direct view of their duty, saving the people from the threats that befell them. I might be reading too much into it but reading what was done to Caliban just brought to mind how Sanguinius drew that line for the Emperor and managed to keep Baal as it was.
In short, he was the goat.
Not just a just and fair leader, but a just and fair man. Beloved by all while carrying the weight that comes from being perceived as nigh perfect. Never again will such a hero shine.
Iterator, please continue your duty to the Emporer. Your voice is perfect for storytelling/history.
@SuperUniverseshaddap furry
😂😂😂 this comment is heresy
@@r.girouard5886ur FACE is heresy
@@NukeTheGhettosget laid brother
100% agreed. Never played much in the 90's but now I enjoy the story telling!
Thank you for this gift Lord Iterator. The Emporer smiles upon you.
Imperial Iterator.....
You fastly grow to be counted amongst the top Loremasters of the WH40K Universe.
Your approach to the lore in an unbiased viewpoint can be seen as heretical but sense that you feel that only in truth can the Imperium of Man truly dominate the Universe in total. Continue in your great work, we all will be watching.
...the more I learn about Sanguinius, the more I understand what an utter travesty his death was
We are tested, and we do not break. We will never fall! It is not the descent toward the shadow nor the rise toward the light that makes us superior. It is the endless struggle between the two that greatness of character lies.
Can you imagine in 1 million years, they find these archeological findings of 40k lore, and people start to believe it for what happened to humanity, and then they start a warhammer religion.
Start? That sounds awfully heretical citizen. Better not let the inquisition hear you.
@@zapbloodfist lmao
Love the story-telling of this channel, perfect voice and good details. Much love !
I love that I just got into this wh40k universe 2 months ago and haven’t watched tv since. There’s SO MUCH lore!!!! I love it
Your content is making my workday manageable, thanks man!
Live without fear under massive weight of this D-Sanguinius
I can see the future but it’s open to multiple interpretations-Sanguinius
writing is extra superior
I was never fond of the official artwork for the most beloved son (and I say that as a fan of the Lion and his sons) but the fan set for him is often amazing, especially the one at 7:03. I always thought he should have a somewhat effeminate but strong look like Griffith from Beserk or Elric of Melniboné...just not pale as death.
If the emperor just made 20 Sanguinius, we would have won 10 thousand years ago.
Or would have ended up dead way faster. Sanguinius would be the easiest primearch to corrupt… without question.
His son’s gene-flaw is a perfect weapon to be used against him by ANY chaos god.
He is a good match for all of them…
Sanguinius: My men fall and I feel bad
Khorne: Oh yeah?
Without your informative (and possibly heretical) vox-casts one would not have the proper context in which to worship the Emperor of Man. Thank you Iterator.
😂
I’ve recently started getting into Warhammer, reading the Horus Heresy series and some other books. But nothing has gotten me more invested or excited into Warhammer than your videos, thank you so much for your hard work and dedication
You added a beautiful way to end the lesson. Thank you for your sermon.
SANGUINIUS should of been Warmaster....Horus even said as much. The Heresy wouldn't of happened if the Angel had been made Warmaster.
@@ericfernandes3284 Thank you for this comment Dude....I have actually had a change of heart of late and figured out why it was impossible that Sanguineous could have ever been Warmaster. Those wings of his...those beautiful wings that made him an angel prevented him from ever being Warmaster. For an Imperium desperately trying to become Secular and do away with anything religious...having an Angel as Warmaster would have been horrendously counterproductive...as of course the people of the Imperium would have deified him and worshipped him (Which they did anyway after his death). The Emperor knew he couldn't make Sang. Warmaster and Horus was the natural selection. And as you prove in your post, If Sanguineous had become Warmaster and turned....the Imperium would have been lost. Sanguineous was too much loved and was too powerful...it would of spelled the end. I have read in many places now that the Horus Heresy or something like it was destined to happen no matter what...that the Emperor was just too great a threat to the chaotic powers to be allowed to continue and that the 4 powers would have figured out a way for a heresy of some form to have started no matter what...even if Sang. would have been Warmaster.
@@ericfernandes3284 Nope, no sarcasm, actually do agree with you. I have always been a Hawk Boy fan...I always thought Sanguineous was one of the best characters in the lore. I have found too that the more Horus Heresy Books you read, you see just how complex a character Sanguineous really was. He wasn't perfect....he certainly had flaws (Though not many) and I feel he was doomed from the beginning and I think the Emperor may have sensed that. Regardless, thanks for your response partner.
Big E was the one that killed Sanguinius during the Siege of Terra. After Sanguinius killed Horus. Big E could not have a competitor for the affections of mankind.
Thats a top noche theory. Do you mind repeating that to my friends in the inquisition?
@@adityagirisha😂
HERESY!!!!
Iterator your voice is perfect for theese stories , thank you ❤
Sangunius is the exact opposite of Konrad Curse both in their design, mentality and view of their foresight abilities
Can you make a video about food and eating in the 40k verse? There must be more than just corpse starch. I wonder what chaos marines eat, or the imperial army, orks and other races!
Is corpse starch as common as the memes suggest? I never looked into it but I know Grox meat is as common in imperial diets as beef is today.
It is so cute that you apoligize for the names :) I'll be honest, it's nice to hear. But with this, your courage to take on these hours-long narrations only shines brigther, and you are SO forgiven. Thank you for many months worth of good, thoughtful entertainment!
23:43 - Basically, our glorious hawkboy is Henry Cavill
Emperor shows us that he's not perfect, he made a mistake by making Horus the warmaster
The Emperor recognising the people of Baal and allowing them to live as they always have and carry their faith in Sanguinius is the real Emperor, the living father. It is just a shame that his humanity had to be sacrificed to create his sons and over time became cold and distant though reappearing from time to time. The Emperor, the true Emperor truly loves his sons and humanity.
Keep up the great work! Love the content and narration!
Sanguinius beat Horus and messed up Big E - he owned everything in the siege of Terra, no way Horus did him in.
I now have a new favor faction
Mine since the first coming back in ithe 80s
I'd listen to you reading the phone book, may the emperor forever protects.
Sanguinius is truly the embodiment of the best of us
Do a Malcador video plz
I never imagined I'd feel bad for a fictional character
Give this man a bike and bring me my centurion. Yey
Thank you! 🎉
Big E holds the line. The Emperor protects. 🙌
Btw. Baal is basically Mad Max in space-radioactive deserts, brutal tribes, and survival of the fittest.
Not sure if it’s your character or you’re truly and older person but if you are shout outs for making lore from the black library more accessible than reading all of the hundreds of books. RUclips is what got me interested in war hammer bc of it’s accessible nature and it has lead to me starting to read the Horus heresy to thanks for doing what you do
3:10 Baird from Gears of war is now Canon 40k lore
Anyone know name of muaic from 48:00 to end?
my guy thank you so much with these trully bitchin videos man cant wait to see you hit a mill one day
Which channel is better this or scholars lore
both are FAR superior to luetin
@@NukeTheGhettosNot really.
@@BrotherRogashaddap
@@NukeTheGhettos that was not what I asked
@@pillepolle3122shaddap
I think hes the coolest looking loyalist primarch and it be so cool to see the angel of death fight angron the world ending demon. I think im gonna build a diorama of that actually.
They have fought… Sanguinius ripped his brain out of his skull
Both Sanguinius and Kurze saw what would happen. The Angel chose to save the Emperor, and Kurze chose to betray Him and to let himself be assassinated. Now, the question is: Which one of the sons of the Emperor should we trust?
the ones that are alive
Ah yes. My favorite Primarch!
I approve of this video.
Still waiting for Dante and Sanguinor to do fusion dance snd bring Sanguinius home
I’d love to serve as a Blood Angel with Sanguinious as my leader 🤧
This is the first time I'm hearing that the Emperor allowed Sanguinis to be viewed as a god. That seems so wildly out of character to me. Can't understand why he chose to make Horus warmaster over Sanguinius. Makes me think that Horus was correct, that it was always the Emperor's plan to become a god.
If I remember it correctly it was more of a "let the people choose for themself", dont force it on them, and since the angel joined the emperor one could argue that it was fairly certain that the people of Baal would do the same and align themself very well with the Imperium. So for me its more like of "how" and not "if" the imperial laws were brought to the people.
@@stefanrosch1991 turned a blind eye
If you look at how he organized entire attack on Terra and the fact that he almost succeeded... You can see why Emperor picked him... 😊
This guys voice is audio book quality
We didn't deserve him! 😭
Can someone direct me to the image on the thumbnail
As a die hard Blood Angel fan, this is infuriating to listen to.
In real life I loath dishonest and disloyal people Horus is the lowest of the low. Not only a traitor but you killed your brother!.
I still believe the only reason (outside of this is how it was written) that The Great Angel fell was due to exhaustion and fatigue of battle besting that demon 2 times. As well as other minor demons before confronting his traitors brother.
People love Sanguinius due to his reliability. His willingness to endure and put others before himself, knowing you will suffer in this case die and commit anyway is one of traits that makes a hero or a leader worth following.
So Baal turned into Mad Max of sorts...tragic yet entertaining 😂
I thought the new lore said that there was no damage to Horus's armour, no mortal wound that helped later on. Horus just toy'd with him for a while, trying to get him to fall to chaos, then just utterly smashed him without mercy. I think it said something like Horus beat him like a dog. It was really horrific....
The updated fluff - which is canon since it's officially from the owners of the content - protected the baby face (to borrow a term from professional wrestling) in describing the battle between Sanguinius and Horus. Sanguinius fought day in, day out, for months without rest. He fought entire companies on his own, multiple titans, a named Bloodthirster (again), then fought Angron and suffered a mortal wound that was slowly killing him. Meanwhile, Horus sat on his ship as a hollow battery just charging warp energy and never lifted a finger. He was fresh as a daisy on his ship when he fought the broken, battered, exhausted, and mortally wounded Sanguinius. It was known by both Horus and Sanguinius that the Angel could have gone farther to defeat Horus, but in order to do so, he would have had to surrender a part of himself to the power he felt within - which could have been for either Order or Chaos. Instead, he remained his broken self, but his own demise ensured his visions of foresight would end and Horus would never reach the surface of Terra.
The Emperor, meanwhile, could have deleted Horus from existence at any time, but was hoping against hope that Horus could be turned back.
The second legion is the fent angels
why did sanguinius dyed his hair black?
Thx👏
8:17 BIG E
Some stories…will never be told…for mortal sanity…will never allow…the possibility…
They think…we are mindless…only emotion…we can’t think…we are blasphemy incarnate…😈…if only…but…will those…some stories…ever be told?..
Daniel 12:1
“At that time Michael shall stand up,
The great prince who stands watch over the sons of your people;
And there shall be a time of trouble,
Such as never was since there was a nation,
Even to that time.
And at that time your people shall be delivered,
Every one who is found written in the book.
👍🏻👍🏻🔝🔝
Konrad is the most beloved... Sanguinius was just a pretty boy
Yep...that's heresy.
*points* right there, Inquisitor. That's him.
@@WhiteIkiryo-yt2it lol
But was Sanguinis really flawless? Consider both his wings, clearly a mark of warp effect. And the black thirst. Just saying 🧐
Flawless= fucking awesome. Fixed it for you.
@@dunrossb I'm not disagreeing he was in fact awesome. But he was flawless. That's just lore.
😊
F.