This man didn't even answer the question.... He dance around the whole thing.... If God is the creator of everything, then he made evil just as well as good....
Isaiah 45:7 says, I create the light Darkness good and evil. I the Lord do all these things. Funny how a Christian educator can miss this verse when it is part of the answer to the question. Look down Pastor, your dishonesty is hanging out.
So, let me see if I got this straight. God creates the sinner, creates the concept of sin then sets things up such as to allow man to sin conveniently placing the mechanism for the fall right within arms reach, he creates the serpent knowing in advance that it will lure man into sin. He does all this knowing the outcome, yet he is not the author of evil? He allows evil to exist despite being powefull enough to make it go away with the snap of a finger and has the incentive to do so being all good. It just doesn't add up no matter how much you try to weave apologetics around it.
mugogrog This is exactly right. I’m still stuck in the Christian faith still. All the fear based indoctrination and perpetrator loyalty. It can literally cause mental illness within a person. I want more than anything to be completely rid of it. It has tainted my heart and mind for too many years. It should be outlawed to indoctrinate kids into religions. Kids are like a sponge and soak up the fear based propaganda right up and will have a much harder life bc of it.
To me it seems pointless to worship such a hypocritical being hence my worship of the imaginary being known as lucifer ...sum lable him a Devil, mean to torture him even, sad that that's all human beings understand is causing and maintaining misery upon anything innocent ...I believe there 2 be a reason this being was originally called the seal of perfection then God kicks him out of heavenly bliss for the prideful sin he entertained in his thoughts of wanting to surpass God in glory? in my opinion he already has! pride and self love is rather like homosexuality which i confess 2 be guilty of and I'm fairly sure that it is my dark lord and master from the underworld which has encouraged this in my life n thank my lucky stars he has looking around and seeing every alternative lifestyle i could be living im now more then positive I've chosen the lesser of 2 evils. Besides who can it ever hurt...aside from the initial shock of love making that 2 men share the pain and pleasure of? seems only noble to me well in any event see you All in hell when the sinless God murders us All kuzz we didn't wanna be puppets 🤘🙏🤘
Actually most preachers are full of their own biases and dogmatic beliefs... and it says right in their own bible that god creates evil: Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) "I form the light and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the lord do all these things."
Depends if that evil is always survivable, I guess. Putting it all upon a flawed and sometimes divided church to warn the whole rest of humanity through mixed symbolism seems a bit awkward, though.
I WAS BORN CATHOLIC, I REALIZED THEY KILLED A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR HERESY, I ASKED MY FELLOW CATHOLICS, WHY SHOULD WE SUPPORT A CHURCH THAT HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. EXAMPLE GIORDANO BRUNO WAS KILLED BY BURNING FOR JUST TEACHING THAT THE EARTH WAS NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE...YEAH BURN HIM ALIVE,,,, WAS THIS INSPIRED? BY WHO, WAS GOD HAPPY? if you ask a christian if the bible is right, they would say yes. REASON because the bible say so, ITS CALLED TAP DANCING, ASK ANYONE ABOUT EXODUS 21:20-21, SEE ALL TYPES OF THEORIES. JUST GO TO ABOUT 10 VIDEOS ON THIS THEN SEE THE ANSWERS, THEY ALL DIFFER
@@JamondBarron Genesis 1:31 "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." Isaiah is referring to natural disasters, calamities etc. Not a being with a choice. 😒 God created Perfect but also gave free will.
Well it depends on the translation. The word ra‘ that is used means bad, evil, disaster- in short everything that is not good. So it only depends what transaltion you use. But just leaving all translation you can just say in short that in Isaiah 45:7 God is telling that he creates/forms/make all good thing and all bad things that are in this world. If you look at Proverb 16:4 where it's said "The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom." You can see that the God planed to create wicked people because he just wanted to. Even if there are many places where God is saying that he cares for us, well it doesn't change the fact that he created evil, that took the name Satan or Devil and he let him for example "torture" Job testing his loyality to God.
It's interesting you brought up that verse. I just had a discussion about this verse with a family member of mine. She told me God did not create evil. I pulled out my phone and said "I can find the exact verse that has God speaking and declaring this himself." She didn't want me to pull the verse up on my phone because she thought I was trying to distort the truth. "Let's use your bible then." She said "I'm not letting you near my bible." It's so screwed up how much religion blinds otherwise intelligent, rational people...
Viktor KC11 The translation doesn't matter, wether it is "evil", "disaster", "bad times", it always means that he brings bad things, disaster, he himself does that, and not Satan. And Satan himself was is creation, evil might have been his choice, but it was a choice well known by god.
giannis skoun ergo, God is both good and evil? but when bad things happen why God or in the bible accuse Satan? the more he did that the more Lucifer gets angry at him. He loves projection ergo, God is a narcissist?
Growing up in the church, we were taught that God is the creator of everything, so it makes sense that God created evil or the devil, the face that represents evil. So if you say God didn't create evil, he's not what we were taught, which brings up more questions than answering.
@@wakkiss2473 but if God is omniscient and created everything, he knew what he created was going to turn evil and did it anyway, that means he created evil.
Yes God created evil. He admits it actually. Read Isaiah 47:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create EVIL: I the LORD do all these things.
You don't even know what that verse means, you are the type of person to look up a comeback and then give it like you actually created it. You probably never touched a bible in your life and here you are grabbing a random verse, trying to make it say what you want it to say. And you can say it plainly written when you haven't read and understood the context around it. And you'll probably say "oh typically context rebuttal" but that is how the bible is, it is not just a story. It has poetry, analogy, hyperbolic, metaphors, song, instruction, simile, and much more. I can also take any verse and twist it to say what i what it to say aswell. If you actually know the context of the verse, you would come to realize that evil in THAT CONTEXT means calamity. Evil is a vague word with many different definitions. To get correctness you can look up what evil meant in greek, hebrew, or aramaic depending on the book. And yes God brings calamity ALL THE TIME, he controls the weather he created. Now why you may ask is another subject but know that what you did grabbing this verse like that shows you are uneducated in the subject and want to one up someone.
Your answer to the question is that he is omnibenevolent? That doesnt address the paradox at all, it is the philisophical equivalent of ‘nuh uh’. He sent his son to die on the cross? How does that prove he is all good? He is all powerful, just wave your hand and forgive people and give eternal life instead of torturing your child to death.
@rez so he is like a strict over controlling parent who wants you to do what he wants but to gives you choise and if you don't choose what he wants then he beats you up (sends to hell) and later gives you an option that if you do a particular thing( ref to bealiving in Christ) he would not beat you up. Just read it and tell me it's all pleasant and sunshine😑
Shadows are created by something blocking the light from hitting a certain spot. So maybe when thinking about satan he is that object that is in the way and doesn't stops the light from reaching out to it's full extent.
wrong! Read This: Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV) 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
I would like to ask you two questions. 1. If God knows the end from the beginning, then why did he placed Adam and Eve in the garden beside the tree of good and evil and allow them to eat the fruit? Shouldnt he have just keep them away from the tree? 2. In Gen. 2:8-9 It says God made three types of trees one for food, one for life and the other is the knowledge of good and evil. Why did God create a tree of good and evil in the first place?
I can only understand evil as suffering or something that can cause suffering. So if God created evil, doesn't that mean he is evil? How can he be good if he created suffering?
Suffering is a result of bad choices, being a result of sin. We have to take responsibility for our actions somehow or we wouldn't know the difference between good choices and bad choices. That's why God gave Adam and Eve choices. They chose wrongly and paid the consequences for their sin. God didn't create sin, man did by making bad choices. Lucifer sinned by making bad choices. It's called free will. We may have freedom of choice, but we don't have freedom from choice. We weren't made to be robots. We are humans. We make choices.
Psychopathy is particularly curious to me as there seems to be evidence that suggests it’s inherent to a small set of individuals; at the very least it appears to be a predisposition for a small percentage of people, indicating that lack of empathy and conscience is not always a choice. This one is a major conundrum for me.
The lack of empathy and conscience from a warped brain from birth is a major conundrum, I agree. I appreciate your honesty and thank you for raising the issue.
God has created everything good according to his will. But because there are so many phenomena, attributes and qualities in humans, we as humans dont morally choose and want, a perfectly good and perfectly moral God must have an even greater amount of attributes he doesnt want and chooses. For he is All Good and everything opposite of his will and goodness must be not his will and condemned, for it is evil. There are good beings created in his Image. Then there must be those that arent created in his Image. Now its not even his fault. We all dont want the negative things we create ourselves. Its natural. We create things by not wanting them. Suffering seems to happen anyway by us not wanting it. And so i believe God semi-created evil not by wanting it, but because he didnt want it. Evil in its very nature is born and grounded in everything we dont want. And some believe evil doesnt exist so therefore it cannot ever be killed. And its true. Evil doesnt exist. And I dont mean it doesnt exist persay. It semi-exists through God because even the Devil lives off Gods energy and source. He was created as the twister, the resister. The snake in the garden. It seems the Devil makes his way to us. Every day i question my morality increasingly. As if i feel Satan rising from hell and God is descending from heaven. I surely hope the End times will go out well.
God jailed all in disobedience so that he could have mercy on them all Romans 11:32 God consigned ( forced, jailed ) all creation AGAINST ITS WILL to futility Romans 8:20 Trust Him, he is Father of all and wills all men to be saved 1Timothy 2:4 God will accomplish all that He wills Isaiah 46:10, Daniel 4:35 , Ephesians 1:11, 1 Corinthians 15:28
The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible. The term can be used in the sense of moral evil, such as wickedness and sin (Matthew 12:35; Judges 3:12; Proverbs 8:13; 3 John 1:11), or it can refer to harmful natural events, calamity, misfortune, adversity, affliction, or disaster. It is in this second sense that Isaiah speaks, and his meaning is reflected in most modern Bible translations of Isaiah 45:7 (emphasis added): “I make success and create disaster” (HCSB); “I make well-being and create calamity” (ESV); “I send good times and bad times” (NLT). God does not create moral evil. For one thing, moral evil is not a “thing” to be made but a choice or intent contrary to God’s good purposes, His holy character, and His law. Moral evil does not conform to God and His will.
Nice job dancing around the question like your running for congress. Here's the answer. Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL I the Lord, do all these things.
That is not creating sin or an evil being. This refers to drought, famine, pestilence etc. Evil circumstances. How you react to them is on you. God created all things Good.
@@chkn-littlerebuking7168 Causing Drought, Famine, Pestilence, Disasters, Calamity, Satans, Demons, etc. are all Evil. They are all Undesirable. And Isaiah 45:7 proves that the God of the Bible is the Creator and Author of All Evil: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL I the Lord, do all these things.". The Whole World now knows this and can Read this verse in the Bible to Know this... and you can no longer win.
@@doctorwebman lol they try thier hardest to hide from that passage but the truth is God creates evil. I was mentally attacked by something against my will even when I was in church even when I was trying to read the bible and no help came. In contrast I help homless people when I have cash on me without them crying to me, without them asking me personally I see they need help and help. A God sits on his butt whem people need help and does nothing!
Love it but can you explain this scripture? “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.” Isaiah 45:7 KJV
Well I’ve always enjoyed the answers given on this channel but I got to admit this time it felt like he avoided the actual question. Didn’t find it very satisfactory this time
I hear people say that evil was created when humans sinned. But wasn’t the angel Lucifer rising up against God a sin? Didn’t Lucifer becoming Satan mean he became the embodiment of evil? Didn’t all this happen before humans were even created? So, if this is all true, then evil was present well before humans came into the picture and therefore evil was created by some entity. If God is all powerful, if He didn’t create evil, then He at least allowed it to be created. That is where my problem with Him lays.
I have even heard some say that God created good and that evil somehow manifest after adam and eve eating from the tree of knowledge of all things but as one start to rationalize this you have to ask how you have one without tbe other. If you have a premise for good than you have to have a comparison as to gage it. The way I see it is that you can't have one without the other and the bible just proves it self to be just a book of fairy tales😃
Yeah but if you're a Christian apologist then isn't it your JOB to do mental gymnastics and make excuses for Christianity? Stop letting Christians explain away discrepancies in the Bible. They can't be objective. They've got too much invested in Christianity to be objective.
I've been chewing on this for a while: God is eternal, and all knowing, but also totally sovereign. Evil didn't simply happen; He planned for it to happen. He didn't simply know it would, He intended for it to happen. Which means for as long as God has been eternal (forever), the very concept OF evil has existed in God's mind also eternally.
@@bragsaint7824 the "evil" mentioned there isn't "Sin". It means calamities, disaster or the wrath of God. God is not the author of sin. ""The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” "" Context is Key! Always seek the help of the holy spirit to help you understand, but if we read to prove the bible is wrong, it is not too difficult to find verses out of context and interpret it in a wrong way.
God didn't create evil, no one did since evil does not exist on its own. Evil is like rust on an iron rod, it only exists as the lack of good. If you take away the rust, you're left with a clean iron rod. However, if you take away the rod, are you left with the rust? No, you're left with nothing, because the rust doesn't exist on its own.
Still have the question, "where did evil come from?" I guess i have a 2nd question, "since God is all knowing, why does He create people that He knows will end up in hell?" Thank you for your videos. BE SAFE,GOD BLESS!🙏
I can answer these for you 1st question- evil comes from a lack in a good thing. Evil cannot exist on its own, its like cancer. If you take all the cancer out of a body, you have a better body. But if you take all the body out of cancer, you have nothing. Oh sure you can have sunshine without shadows, but you cannot have shadows without sunshine. You can have good without evil, but you cannot have evil without good. 2nd question- why would God create people he knows would go to hell. I got a question aswell, if you know something is going to happen ahead of time, does that mean that the thing shouldnt happen? If you were to know who would win the super bowl, and your team is losing. Would you try to change the outcome? If yes, then you are taking away their free will. It is the same with God, if God were to only create people that he knew would go to heaven then be would be taking to free will away from people he knew would be not giving them the choice, even though he knows the outcome. But just cause he knows the outcome, does that mean the people dont have free will? No ofcourse they do, he just knows how they will turn out
@romeo9782 Swallowed that one did you, no one but an unsound mind would choose to go to endless torture or annihilation and you have written that it is our own action/choice that saves us whereas scripture declares that it is grace alone that saves . "A man can recieve nothing unless it is given from heaven " John 3:27 Ephesians 2:8 declares the grace and faith of Christ saves us, a gift of God and not of yourselves and stresses not any action/choice of yourself. If you try to add your personal faith into the story Romans 4:16 reminds you that faith rests on grace. Thankfully it has nothing to do with you " the Lord directs a man's step, so then how can anyone know his way " Proverb 20:24 Just as John 3:27 declares even a man's faith is given by God Romans 12:3 What sin will prevent God from correcting sin (sin means to miss the mark" or make a mistake ) when He corrects or saves by grace (undeserved favor/kindness ) " Grace super exceeds sin for wherever sin is grace abounds all the more " Romans 5:20
@@attav8 2. While it doesn’t take away their free will, it only makes the situation on God’s favor more arbitrary. That’s like creating a bomb knowing it will explode one day and destroy your home, would I not be responsible?
@@onlyechadtherebellious2467 my answer has changed. God is fully sovereign. He has predestinated the world. He plan was from the beginning, also his elect; along with the vessels of destruction. It is God's story. HIStory, and if you were to learn what that story was you may or my not see the beauty. I see the beauty, it is the best love stoy one can concoct.
@@attav8 why does he make my race suffer so much? We have hardly done anything wrong at any point in history. We have been enslaved, raped, murdered and continually pushed top the bottom of an invisible barrel and there is nothing we can do matter how we try or what we do even to this day. I'm talking about people of western African decent. God knows we don't want this and we can't choose the body in which we are born, what do you suggest we do?
What does it mean when you can't feel the evil in your actions because you deny your guilt so much that you no longer feel the consequences of your behaviour
The God of the Bible created the options, gave them to us to choose from using our freewill. So if I choose evil it's not my fault, the option was given to me right? Two ways to look at it. 1. Is either the God of the Bible wanted it this way for His pleasure, or 2. it took Him by surprise. How can you be God who created Lucifer as an angel, and didn't know he was going to be this evil on the land and didn't stop it? Is there some power in Lucifer that the God of the Bible did not know about?
@@Wdym41 no buddy that's a way to look at it..he did that for his fun ...not ur free will dummy..u think he loves u that Much to give u freewill so u can be hurt...sounds like the love of a black woman who give there sons away to violence and prison..no...god cud have infact created a peaceful place ..it's too many people like miself battling to be in Christ side and losing mi mental health for this shit .when I cud wish evolution is real and that mi body can go back to the dust.....there's more to it I know it...
Evil exists to test moral endurance. Moral endurance exists to test faith. Without the testing of faith there is no need for faith. Without the need for faith their is no need for God or even to exist since all things hoped for are already present. In this case the world would be plagued with something even worse than evil... eternal boredom.
Isaiah 45:7 I make peace and I create evil... on a plate but He also mocks and laughs at the dispair and calamity of the blameless and innocent.You... Job 9:22-23 Careful, be wise and true to yourself
No decent person would treat his kids as god treated Adam and Eve! If your kid gets in trouble you throw him away in the streets???? And if he doesn't learn the lesson in the streets, then, you condemn him to hell for eternity?? Really??? That's the way you would treat your kid?????
some traits in evil is needed for survival and when used that way it is no longer evil but the choice to do these acts or have those feelings need to exist in order to survive.
why does he have to send jesus to die in order to forgive us? cant he just forgive us if he is all forgiving and loving? and if he does not forgive then he wil cast evil? then who is evil then? so ironic. simply god, satan, angels, creatures in the bible do not exist but are jewish myths!
If you think about it, the whole Jesus figure had to exist in order for the bible to be considered as doctrine because Jesus was prophesize, so if there was no Jesus figure than more people would see the bible and religion as a whole as tbe joke tbag it is. Another point, as to any good novel, story, movie etc you have to have a hero and there main antagonist, the whole crucifixion deal takes care of that and make some people think that god actually made some great sacrifice for humanity😃
Sana Singh read your Bible. God took away the Penalty of our sin, but we all still posses a sin nature. The apostle Paul said it best in Romans 7 as he described his own spiritual condition. I don’t need opinions. If you have something to say, please use the Bible to support your position.
The whole “free will,” cop out doesn’t cut it; if “God’s” supposed excuse for evil is “for freedom,” he must know, being omniscient, that his hands-off approach to the universe will yield precisely the horrible outcomes that he has permitted within his design. Knowing that humans have a general core of prosocial behavior but with selfish and often antisocial inclinations (which we see across religions and cultures), one should really consider the guilt lying in the baseline design of human behavior. Why are people, regardless of religion, generally opposed to the breach of consistent moral norms? I’ve always thought the free will argument lacks rigor. If you’re going to argue for a creator god, you need to imbue him with the capacity for mistakes if you’re going to make him benevolent. Frankly though, I think it’s silly why people don’t consider the possibility of a careless or even malicious god... but I suppose “dogma” is the explanation for that.
The thing here is. God is the ultimate creator of everything we can sense with our consciousness. This means god created evil. But it doesnt mean that god created humans with evil. Everything has an opposing force to it. Satan joined the evil even though god created hin for the light. The same way, humans are also created for the light not the darkness. That is why god sent Jesus to reverse what Adam did and gave humans a chance to know the truth.
God is both black and white. Light and darkness. Thats why satan was always the prince of darkness, not the king. Anyone who thinks that god is only light is wrong. Actually, the truth is that god cannot be described. Because if we can describe god, then it means the creator of a videogame is also in the videogame. The creator must be outside the creation.
? WHY What you just described involves what is referred to as the “Russellian Paradox,” as propounded by Bertrand Russell; roughly, “a set of all sets, must include itself.”
We all would assume that...though in God's defence are our attitude problems really God's fault? It's said God put man & woman into a paradise garden without a trace of anything that would cause pain or suffering where they would live in perfect weather perfect soft bliss ...they didn't even know they we're naked and had no shame over their bloody bodies yet GOD also laid out a golden rule...1 simple rule for the two of them not to break \hence choice was created ...you gotta wonder how long Adam and eve just lived in paradise before their curiosity got the best of them n decided they could totally be better God'$ then the 1 and only perfect one and HELL we're they right the evidence of just how much better a job humans are at being GOD'S is all around us. It's scary just how Godly men and woman can act unchecked
This is a very interesting topic. If we agree that God is the creator, then wouldn’t he have created evil as well? He is not limited to the dimension of time like humans are, so wouldn’t He have known what he was creating when He created the world?
God didn't create evil, no one did since evil does not exist on its own. Evil is like rust on an iron rod, it only exists as the lack of good. If you take away the rust, you're left with a clean iron rod. However, if you take away the rod, are you left with the rust? No, you're left with nothing, because the rust doesn't exist on its own.
If God is perfectly good, no need to add other omnis, it is enough totally. If God didn’t, who did? Who will have much power to do like that or another God?
If I say evil born in love.. will you accept it.. Think logically.there is no such thing as evil but love do exit and so it lets to promise, Truth, caring, forgiveness and so on When u do love u expect love in return from who show ur love This is my thoughts
So let me get this right. You put treats all over the house for your dog, when you go to work, AND put the freshly cooked smelling chicken at the center of the house and you tell him not to eat it while you are gone. If the dog eats the chicken he have sinned??? Because he had free will and it was his CHOICE???? Seriously???? And then, you throw him out to live as a stray, because you LOVE him??????? Sure!!!!!! I wonder what you would do if you hated him? Is there anything worse than abandoning your child??? He abandoned humans and if we abandone him we go to hell??? If that isn't projecting, what is??????
You don’t have it right. Let’s look at your analogy from a different perspective. You would never do any of the things your comment says because unlike the dog, you know better. You know that if you did put treats and chicken out that the dog’s nature would make the dog eat the treats and the chicken. Why shouldn’t you just let your dog eat whatever it wants? Because you know that it’s not in its best interest. This reoccurring idea that God puts things in our path to encourage us to do wrong is persistent but is false. We are not “dogs”. We are taught right from wrong from a young age. We also have a conscience that tells us (for instance) that taking something that doesn’t belong to us is wrong. When we choose to ignore our teachings or conscience, we are the ones to blame, not God. But the good news is that Christ took the blame. We just must ask him to personally take that blame from us. We also can choose that. If we decide to choose not to, we choose to live as the stray in your example. God loves all, but he will not command you to love Him back. God (like any parent) wants only the best for you and me. Sometimes that means we don't do the things we think are best for us at the time.
A good question i have asked so many people but haven’t gotten an answer besides “God will answer all questions when he picks up his people” which is blind following. 1: what was the purpose of creating angels? - why does he need to be praised and glorified? Wouldn’t that be egotistical? - what made Lucifer believe that he can actually beat God and dethrone him? What could Lucifer have possibly told the angels making a whopping 1/3 of them turn their backs towards God when they can’t even defeat the Archangels in a fight? Thats an insane amount of Angels who are made holy! Makes you think what does Lucifer/Satan know that WE do not know. - if God does not make mistakes, why did he have to flood the earth to save it? AND THEN later sacrifice his son to save us again?
1. Love, same reason he made humans. - he doesn't need anything, all glory and praise goes to God because he deserves it. The almighty is incapable of being egotistical, egotism is an undue sense of self importance. This is never true of God as he gets all the credit for creation, has perfect justice, knows all, is all powerful and is love. So it's never undue. - Satan challenged God's right to rule, his sovereignty. Claimed that people are better off ruling themselves. A challenge that would have gone nowhere if Adam had obeyed. He took the opportunity to corrupt man at the start. -Satan tempted the other angels with the daughters of men, it says they noticed them. Understand that it was around 1500 years before the flood so it's possible they thought God was not going to act. You can be sure Satan was bragging about all the fun he was having. There is by definition only one archangel, it means chief angel. I do agree that whatever they thought it was silly to think they were going to win, but as we know that reasoning doesn't stop those who don't want to obey the rules. -The flood was to cleanse the earth, it says that they ruined the earth there was so much violence. Remember the situation, demons running around in human suits doing whatever they wanted with angelic power and spawning huge bullies called nephilim. Demonic influence is very bad today but image dealing with them in person. Also they were trying to corrupt the line of the promised seed, that seed was Jesus and his sacrifice saves obedient mankind, not the flood. Someone with blind faith is not following Bible teaching. The Bible provides mountains of evidence and solid reasoning that true faith is based on.
Y'all need to read Isaiah. God-Jehovah is telling you that He created evil. If a person creates evil, then what does that tells you about His character?
@@Polack21 Your a deceived person BECAUSE sin and evil are not the same thing. Find out what they are and come back and say sorry for being such a stupid fool. Ok Ok since you beg in your heart, and your mind is really straining the Hebrew word for sin in English literally means " to miss the mark " God doesn't sin because he knows everything and can't make a mistake. You made a mistake by thinking the word should be calamity instead of evil because it is the same Hebrew word used for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, never heard anyone say the tree of the knowledge of good and calamity. Now see if you can find out what evil means and then start thinking
So where did sin come from if not from god. Who or what tempted Satan to really be the first sinner? And if God didnt create sin how can he stop sin after his judgement when we are in heaven?
I was genuinely, sincerely interested in hearing an answer to this question. I never got one. Lots of belittling of the beliefs of eastern religions, “pagans,” atheists, and so on - but no real attempt to explain why the Author of the universe would create it in such a way as to permit even the potential of evil, let alone allow its flourishing. Too bad.
I think evil came from free will. The ability to choose implies that at best there is a good and better option, and at worst a good and bad option. I think the reason evil exists is because free will was a must, otherwise what is a world without free will? A meaningless painting of gray, no colors, everything is just...existing. While evil was not what God wanted, it was the necessary risk to bring about the existence of good, to give meaning to everything. Choice gave the world the color it needed, to have meaning and aspirations, to strive to become good people. These, of course, are just my thoughts. I could be very wrong.
I am good and evil and proud of it. These two powers that are in constant conflict are essential for spiritual growth. Nothing exists without purpose. Even if sucks.
@@attav8 How? he knows the beginning and the end he is omnipotent yet he still created Lucifer knowing he would become evil, he obviously wanted there to be evil.
There is nothing but God. You, yourself are not separate from it. It's an illusion of what we call the ego. Everything, EVERYTHING has it's opposite. Life needs contrast. You wouldn't know what good is if there was no evil. Darkness and light, negative and positive both have their purpose. EVERYTHING perfect the way it is......realize this. What makes life precious is the fact that one day you will die. Try to walk the path between the opposites. Stay on the middle path avoiding extremes and you will always be fine.
If God has created evil and he allows us to be of a sin nature, and this is his program of which we normally do not understand....Then there should never be an everlasting punishment in hell if God is responsible for allowing evil.
What is the nature of God's hatred for people. These days it seems like there are very few Christians who are willing to come to grips with the fact that the Bible tells us that God actually does hate people. How are we to understand this hatred especially in light of his commands for us to love our neighbors?
the absence of evil creates good. meaning that good doesn't exist, only evil, that invented that illusion to gain a place in the force of balance dictated by the real thing : Nature, which he is trying to destroy (with our help)
The Bible says God created evil. but He also gave His creation the freedom of choice to pick what they may. like the person who created the gun. he knows what the creation was for, but it's the owner of the gun that had the ultimate choice to do or don't.
Andrew Shanaberger every man has a choice. it is up to us to make the decision to accept Christ or not. if you know about Christ and still decide to go against Him, who's choice is that? So many people ignore their conscience that they become numb to the right and wrongs of the world. they now confuse the two. their thoughts are perverted. but it's their own individual choice that leads people to destruction. it's God's will that none will perish, but the choice is still up to you at the end of the day.
"The Bible says God created evil." Yes, no 'but'. That's not what a loving' god would do. Would you give your child a gun to play with and say you have free will to go shoot yourself, but I don't want you to?
Many people say ‘God allowed it!’ No. God allows free will, not the abuse of it (sin). The fallen angels rebelled & sinned, not because God allowed it - but because God honors His Word (this is how they try to trick people, taking liberties into their own hands).
He does not fully answer the question. And though I do believe in God I have never met an atheist who didn't know the difference between Good and Evil. They have morals very similar to Christians in fact, their morality just comes from within their own paradigme, their own perception of this world.
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version 7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things. Ask God’s Word if God created evil.
The answer is yes.. Ive thought about it.. In isaiah 45:7 it mentiones it.. “I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things.” I thought about it.. He did create evil but it was because of giving mankind choices.. And that was what made man kind destroy itself long ago.. But he gave choices just like our parents gave us choices as we grew.. So if you think about it its up to us whether we listen or not.. So we cant blame God but ourselves..
@@dewayne9508 nahh. It was our choices that made us wicked, yes the lord knows the outcome but he thought we would have done the opposite, but instead we didn't and now we are living in our own karma.. so therefore it wasn't God that planted a miserable life, we did that to our selfd
Understanding that God is omni and creates the good and evil takes power away from man and the church, and simply helps you understand your purpose on/it this realm. - it's a test ground to ascension - or stay stuck till you figure it out. And this realm ain't easy.
Would you agree that there is a universal right and wrong, good and evil? If you do then you know that these are inherent to humans and ingrained in us. We know it’s wrong to kill someone just as we know it feels good inside to love someone. We know 2+2=4 is right, and 2+2=5 is wrong. These are the laws of the universe. Since God created the universe, His dna if you want to call it that, or simply just His character, is spread throughout the universe and everything in it. So if God is righteous, loving, just, etc, why is there evil? The answer to this is very logical and is shown throughout creation, just as the previously mentioned laws are. For example, we know what light is because darkness exists. If darkness never existed, we would not know what light was because it had always been. If no evil was in the universe, we would not know what good was for the same reasoning. Evil was a reaction to the creation of everything, just as light is to darkness, when you turn on the light the darkness hides. This is why there is a heaven and hell. Many ask why can’t God save everyone. The right answer to this is because darkness cannot exist in the light, both metaphorically and literally. In creation of the universe, there must be a dimension that contains hell and a dimension that contains heaven, not only pure good and pure heaven. I hope this helped answer any questions
Sorry Dr. Cabel, but you really did not answer the question correctly. If God is ALL POWERFUL (and He is because He's omnipotent), if He is ALL KNOWING (and he is because He's omniscient), if He is ALL SEEING (and He is because He's omnipresent) then why could not evil be in the mind of the Almighty Creator when he began to create the universe and everything in existence? For everything that God set His mind to do he created an opposite to it. Go back to the very beginning: there was first a void where nothing existed. Then God spoke existence (the opposite) into the void and that which He spoke began to fill the void. There was darkness covering the face of the deep and God spoke light (the opposite) into the darkness. When he created man in His image it was in the spirit. But when He formed man from the ground and breathed life into this physical form of His image and he (man) became a living soul, then he became the opposite of the image of God. And from the man, He (God) created his (man's) opposite..... woman. It was not God's intent for man to possess the nature of evil because of the qualities and the power that lies within it. In the book of Genesis, chapter one, verse 31, we see that the work that God had done in the six days of creation was very good. "And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day." And as we very well know, the opposite of everything good is bad or in other words, evil. So where did this evil come from? Did Lucifer, Satan, the devil create it? Or did it come from God, because He knew, afore time, that there would become opposition to His divine nature and glory because of His omniscience, His omnipotence, and His omnipresence. I don't think it to be wrong to have such thinking, but in still, I don't blame God for the evil things that take place among men and creation. I blame man for taking on the one quality of the nature of evil and that one quality is SIN. Peace and God bless
Merlyn ergo, God created good and evil. and every flaw that man make he blame it to Lucifer (his angel of light). his angel of light doing darkness?? he should be interviewed to straighten things for us (people) and will have peace.
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou has created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. (Revelations 4:11)
If you go to isiah it tells you i form the light i creat the darkness i creat piece and creat evil. The hebrew word they get evil from is raw and includes all evils including calamity. Raw means all evils including calamity but not limited to calamity. Plus you say God's omnipotence means he can do anything in his nature. The problem with this way of defining omnipotence is how you define omnipotence means i'm omnipotent. If you define omnipotence like you do a dog is omnipotent a cat is omnipotent and so are all humans. Plus you say good and evil are human traits and God can not be evil for this reason but he is good when thats a human traight.
It doesn't help for simple minds to believe that God created good and evil by him saying in Jeremiah 32: 42 "For thus saith the Lord: Like I have brought great evil upon this people, so will I bring upon them all the good that I have promised them." This statement did not say he allows evil. Instead it stated that he brought it.
Otherworldly views?? There is no other worlds according to the Bible! Other than that you did a very good job of explaining why God did he create you God bless you man
Were does Freewill and Makinds Responsible for Acts or Choices, God is Indirectly Responsible not Directly Responsible for Mankind's Sins (Wrongdoings).
+LivingStr0nger Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, next week Dr Cabal will be answering, "Why do bad things happen to good people?" Make sure you are subscribed to our RUclips channel so you don't miss it Wednesday @ 8am!
LivingStr0nger the devil can work though people just as god can, god gave us free will, he also equipped us with that inner voice we know what's right and wrong, that inner voice is preprogrammed in us from god , we know that killing is wrong even if there no man made law saying it's wrong , same thing with stealing we know it's wrong that's where free will comes in god doesn't want to be a dictator
why are we going through all this bad stuff on earth if god knows everything before it happens. I hope its not to prove a point to satan bc if thats the case which it seem like then he must really love satan
God made everything, knowing everything that would happen. He knew what the devil would do, what adam and eve would do, what sins you would do. You going to heaven or hell was set in stone the moment he made the world.
+Reforma Your comment - "Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things." My comment - Many Calvinists will falsely teach that man has no free will especially in regards to the free gift of eternal life. They will falsely teach that God is the author of sin and evil based upon an eisegesis of Isaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6, and many other Scriptural passages taken out of context and used in isolation in support of their false doctrine. They will falsely teach that it is God that causes man to do evil and sin and at the same time teach that man is held accountable which makes no logical sense. Passages such as Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6 in the KJV need to be read in light of other Bible translations and Scriptural passages that give the reader the context and better clarity of what is being taught when it says in those passages that God "created evil." 1) Isaiah 45:7 KJV currently reads, "I form the light, and CREATE DARKNESS: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things." 2) Isaiah 45:7 NIV - I form the light and CREATE DARKNESS, I bring prosperity and CREATE DISASTER; I, the LORD, do all these things. 3) Isaiah 45:7 NASB - The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and CREATING CALAMITY; I am the LORD who does all these. 4) Amos 3:6 in the KJV, it currently reads, "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be EVIL in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?" 5) Amos 3:6 NIV - When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When DISASTER comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it? 6) Amos 3:6 NASB - If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble? If a CALAMITY occurs in a city has not the LORD done it? When one looks at these different translations and do a comparison, one will discover that the word "evil" in the context of Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6 refers to "disaster" and "calamity" that God brings upon those who are willfully disobedient, unfaithful, and who do wicked acts, whether saved or unsaved. In other words, those people reap what they willfully sow. God chastises them by bringing "evil", "disaster", and "calamity" as a wake up call. One should NOT read Isaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6 and other related passages in isolation and out of context and draw a conclusion from that method because in doing so, one will most likely get the wrong interpretation. Christians need to read those passages in light of other Scriptural passages such as the ones in Jeremiah to get a better understanding of whatIsaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6 is really saying. The following passages in Jeremiah explain why God brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon people. God does not do these things in a whimsical, arbitrary, and capricious way according to the "secret counsels of His will" and according to His "sovereign good pleasure" which is what Calvinism would falsely teach. God gives the reason why through the prophet Jeremiah when people questioned why evil, disaster, and calamity fell upon them: 1) Jeremiah 1:14, 16 - 14 Then the Lord said unto me, Out of the north an EVIL shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land. 16 And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands. 2) Jeremiah 4:1,4,6 - If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the Lord, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove. 4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring EVIL from the north, and a great destruction. 3) Jeremiah 4:18 - 18 Thy way and thy doings have procured these things unto thee; this is thy wickedness, because it is bitter, because it reacheth unto thine heart. 4) Jeremiah 5:19 - 19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, WHEREFORE DOETH THE LORD OUR GOD ALL THESE THINGS UNTO US? then shalt thou answer them, Like AS YE HAVE FORSAKEN ME, and SERVED STRANGE GODS in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's. 5) Jeremiah 6:19 - 19 Hear, O earth: behold, I WILL BRING EVIL upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT HEARKENED UNTO MY WORDS, NOR TO MY LAW, BUT REJECTED IT. 6) Jeremiah 9:12-14 - 12 Who is wise enough to understand this? Who has been instructed by the Lord and can explain it? WHY HAS THE LAND BEEN RUINED AND LAID WASTE LIKE A DESERT THAT NO ONE CAN CROSS? 13 The Lord said, “IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FORSAKEN MY LAW, WHICH I SET BEFORE THEM; THEY HAVE NOT OBEYED ME OR FOLLOWED MY LAW. 14 INSTEAD, THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE STUBBORNNESS OF THEIR HEARTS; THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE BAALS, AS THEIR ANCESTORS TAUGHT THEM." 7) Jeremiah 11:10-11 - 10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers. 11 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I WILL BRING EVIL UPON THEM, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them. 8) Jeremiah 11:17 - 17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, HATH PRONOUNCED EVIL AGAINST THEE, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal. 9) Jeremiah 16:10-12 - 10 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, WHEREFORE HATH THE LORD PRONOUNCED ALL THIS GREAT EVIL AGAINST US? OR WHAT IS OUR INIQUITY? OR WHAT IS OUR SIN THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST THE LORD OUR GOD? 11 Then shalt thou say unto them, BECAUSE YOUR FATHERS HAVE FORSAKEN ME, saith the Lord, and HAVE WALKED AFTER OTHER GODS, AND HAVE SERVED THEM, AND HAVE WORSHIPED THEM, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law; 12 And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me: 10) Jeremiah 19:3-5 - 3 And say, Hear ye the word of the Lord, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I WILL BRING EVIL UPON THIS PLACE the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle. 4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents; 5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to BURN THEIR SONS WITH FIRE for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind: 11) Jeremiah 19:15 - 15 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon this city and upon all her towns all the EVIL that I have pronounced against it, BECAUSE THEY HAVE HARDENED THEIR NECKS, that they might not hear my words. 12) Jeremiah 22:8-9 - 8 And many nations shall pass by this city, and they shall say every man to his neighbour, WHEREFORE HATH THE LORD DONE THUS UNTO THIS GREAT CITY? 9 Then they shall answer, BECAUSE THEY HAVE FORSAKEN THE COVENANT OF THE LORD THEIR GOD, AND WORSHIPED OTHER GODS, AND SERVED THEM. It is important also to remember that there are many instances when "evil", "disaster", and "calamity" falls upon the righteous because of Satanic oppression and persecution. The example of Job falls in this category. Those instances are separate from the instances where God brings evil, disaster, and calamity. 1) God brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon the wicked because of their wickedness and evil. They get a taste of their own medicine. God also brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon the righteous when they go off the path and become unfaithful, disobedient, and do wicked acts. This is chastisement and a wake up call from God. 2) Satan brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon the righteous in an attempt to discourage, anger, frustrate, corrupt, and in an attempt to thwart when the righteous are living in holiness, obedience, and faithfulness. This has always been the motive of Satan on those who live righteously. Scripture is clear that there is no evil or darkness at all in God - 1 John 1:5, James 1:13 nor does God tempt anyone with evil. The Bible is clear that evil came into existence when Lucifer fell and became Satan with his infamous 5 "I wills" declarations in Isaiah 14:12-15 and was self-generated due to his immense pride on account of his great beauty and status as an angel of God - Ezekiel 28:13-17. Yes, God allowed evil to come into existence, but it would be incorrect to assert that God "created" evil. To say that God "created" evil is to say that He is the author of evil thereby exonerating Satan. Since God gave man free will to choose, God allowed evil to come into existence so that man has a choice to choose good or evil with it's accompanying consequences. Man has had free will since the Garden of Eden - Genesis 2:16-17. God is a God of love and because of His very nature and character, He gave man freewill to choose to accept or reject Him with it's accompanying consequences because man is not a mindless puppet on a string. God created the ABILITY/POTENTIAL for man to decide. This of course, is something that Calvinism denies incessantly.
Michael That’s the thing; we DO intend to sin. Sin is corruption. It is a falsity of what is good. It is to miss the mark. Original Sin (more accurately called Ancestral Sin) simply means that Adam and Eve made a choice to rebel against God, to seize autonomy and look inwards instead of outwards. Thus, since mankind is the very image of God, and made to be his representatives to creation, death and corruption were brought into the world through their actions, and the intentions of man’s heart became darkened. Often, even when we think we mean well, our intentions aren’t truly good. Due to the fallen state of the world and our subsequent inclination towards sin, we choose to mimic Adam’s sin (though not usually in the exact same way). And so all humanity is separated from God ontologically and spiritually due to sin and death. Christ dealt with both by trampling down the power of death by his own, and atoning for our sins by the shedding of his blood (his life).
The “KJV Only” crowd say the ESV is a “Devil’s Bible, but only the KJV says God creates evil, every other translation has it correct in translating the verse from Isaiah 45 as “calamity,” or “disaster.” The verse is as follows, “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.” (Isaiah 45:7)
Evil is the opposite of good , tasty sandwiches, evil sandwiches, a fine sunny day , fire and brimstone on Sodom, kiss for your mum, punch your mum in the face, quite simple really
So praise god for everything good and blame satan for all the bad, um who created the evil flawed satan , who will you blame for that error. These people will make up any answer to cover gods mistakes.
Firstly- its God, anything other is idolatry Second- you do realize angels have free will just like us right? They are God's spiritual servant, they have choice and they were made perfect like adam and eve. You can see angels using their free will the turn away from God, as did Lucifer because he was power hungry. When you create free creatures you would know the outcome if they were to betray you. God knew this. Then you might ask, why did he create them in the first place? Well you can ask your parents the same question. Would you call your parents evil even though they conceived you and knew you would do bad? No, you are responsible for your own wrongdoings and instead of being humble and admitting to them. You turn to the creator and shake your fist at him.
@@attav8 wow😮😮😮 now this is the best comment😊 nice, that you compared God to parents.. Meaning when they created us.. And how we make our own decisions.
Comparing God to parents is Moronic!. Parents do not know for sure where you'd end up. They bring you to the world and HOPE for the best. GOD knows where you'd end up for SURE!. If our parents knew most wouldn't reproduce.
JJ1X you will make any excuse for god so the excuse for drowning the whole world would be what? Aghh yes that would be our fault. Have you ever read the Old Testament, I have and it’s terrifying with the amount of deaths god orders even to kill every baby and animal in some verses. If you wasn’t told it was god doing the ordering to kill you certainly would think it was Satan. I think your just terrified to think anything other than what you think because you think you’ll burn in hell forever.
yea I mean something that I have always thought about is if God knows the beginning and the end. Then he knowingly created evil(Satan) even when he knew Lucifer would become evil so I mean how can you not say god lets evil happen when he is the source it all ties back to. It points to the idea that God never actually wanted a perfect world yet subjects humans to it?
If God knows everything (omniscient) then he knows everything he will ever do. This means he can never choose not to do something or choose to do something other than what he was always going to do. God by "virtue" of his omniscience, cannot be spontaneous and there goes his omnipotence. His characteristics as ascribed by humans are inherently contradictory. But even if they were perfectly "balanced goal posts", one can never be omniscient because one can never know what he doesnt know he doesnt know, God or otherwise. Does God have free will? Because if he does, he cant be omniscient as he could never change his mind and do something else, something spontaneous, since he already knows everything he will ever do, including whether he ever changed his mind or not, so he can never truly change his mind and do something new, new to himself that is. God can never surprise himself. If he is omniscient, he doesnt have free will. If he is omnipotent then he should be able to give himself free will, but then he cant be omniscient. Moreover, if God is omniscient, he can never have a novel thought, a new idea, which invalidates the concept of creation. Any creative effort requires novelty, which is absent in the context of omniscience. There are three domains of knowledge, things you know you know, things you know you dont know and things you dont know you dont know. And you can never know that you have exhausted the list of things that you dont know you dont know because by definition you dont know what you dont know you dont know. Omniscience is simply inherently incoherent on its own. And the situation is only getting worse when you pair it with other characteristics such as omnipotence. For one thing, you can never learn something new. And of course as already mentioned, you can never know what you dont know you dont know which instantly invalidates the concept of omniscience as well as omnipotence. If God could do anything, he could learn everything he doesnt know he doesnt know, but how would he know when he's finished? How would he know theres nothing left that he doesnt know he doesnt know? Even if omniscience wasnt inherently illogical, God could still never know whats outside of God because it would be incompatible with omnipresence. And I would go one further and tell you that God cannot even know everything that is inside of God because one can never make completely valid observations regarding a system from inside the system. That is to say, you can never perfectly know the state of a system from within the system because you are making observations while being part of said system and the act of observing the system is affecting it so there will always be uncertainty regarding the observation/knowledge of the state of the system and there goes your omniscience again. Of course, unless God could extrapolate himself outside of the system which would place God outside of the system he is observing violating omnipresence. God cannot be omnipresent and omniscient because he can never know everything with precision about the state of the space he is occupying. The principle of uncertainty holds, God or not. None of the characteristics ascribed to the Abrahamic God are internally coherent, individually or in concert.
And sending his son to die for our sins is in no shape or form a good thing, not at all. God could just forgive our sins without anyone being sacrificed, that would be an omnibenevolent and omnipotent God. Simple!
You do know jesus was created from a piece of God right? Cuz God is a spirit.. And you should be greatful😑 cuz if jesus never died for our sins.. We would have been slaves to lucifer.. Also how can he forgive sins when it's gonna be repeated over and over again? Its as if its not an apology but making fun of God.. Also i can tell u didnt read the bible.. Long ago Mankind started to go down the drain.. They took freewill and twisted it.. Men used women for babies.. It was men who destroyed the world.. So jesus was made to fix it.. . Think about you.. Say you created man kind gave them free choices whether to follow you or not, they chose not to follow you and abused the free will..but you forgive them but they dont care about your forgiveness.. Would you want the world to suffer because of man kind?
As I read some of the comments, many say that God creates sin, sinner, evil and everything. According to my theodicy, God doesn't create evil, therefore, God is not evil. Evil is not a create things; it is nothingness. Evil is negation and corruption from good.
Regarding your closing statement- How does sending his son to die on the cross prove that God didn't create evil? You haven't answered the question at all.
Yup. Straight from the horses mouth: Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV) "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Stopped listening when he asked if God creates sin. That isn't the question being asked. The question is "does God create evil?" - God created everything, including evil. Evil didn't come into existence on its own, no more than the universe came into existence on its own. Why worship a God who is the author of evil?
I agree i can not live in willfully ignorance like atheist whom believes that nuclear bombs had no developers 🤔yet they do believe they exist, yet they can only point at religions hypocrisy😕 next time you talk to one just ignore them in fact everybody should so that eventually they tire of there willful ignorance and fish for attention like the lil whores they are furthermore 1 would have to commit an act of hypocrisy to know what it is, same goes for (SIN) of course. Why deny the only indulgence one has or a childish being its toy blocks?😑👏let them play
If God created everything it is straight forward logic that he created good and evil along with the powers that do good and the powers that do evil and He knew what was coming. You cannot dance around that however many words you use.
There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.
@@MiamiDrake145 Lay off them drugs mate: the Hebrew word ra is the same word used for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , comprehendo, trying to baffle us with bull. For your sake look up calamity in the dictionary and you will find the word evil used to describe it along with affliction, misery , disaster etc which are all evil things you ninny. Stop sneaking that wine home from church with your drinking buddies it's making you silly.
Exaclty. Probably just easier for them to avoid this one. The answer I get is that "evil" means "calamity" here, but to me it's not much better, and in the KJV the translation is indeed "evil" rather than calamity. So it's still a theological problem, or, AT BEST, bad translating.
God hates evil but he still allows it to exist evil is a created thing and god created everything so he still is responsible for everything in of story
Woah there hold urr horneyesses Created it sure, yet he forced no one to (partake) their smart guy in fact he warned against it but then u do hafta wonder why even warn? Why create the possibility of such a miserable thing as pain suffering or death sumthin apparently woman never second guess when filled to the brim with Godly love? Maybe creating choice in order to creating any free will whatsoever?😕even though that itself is a hole nother can o worms
We are created in his own image according to the bible. We also are creators. We can create evil in this world and we can also create good. Money is spent creating weapons instead of using it to help people. We create wars-- atomic bomb others and bring forth misery. Corporations use slave labor for profit, etc, etc---This is what it means but God does not do evil although I suppose he could,
I haven't watched the video but how can God create evil if He is good? That doesn't make sense because that would either make God foolish or this statement is just plain stupid... GOD did not create evil but when He created beings He gave them conscious freedom... and conscious freedom was given out of love. And from there we create/choose our own destiny with what God has already given us...
in my perspective i see it as this: God, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, HAS to be evil AS WELL AS GOOD. he is all things that you can think of and he is more. to understand God, that is impossible, the idea that he is innately a "good" force i think is somewhat missleading (with 'good' being almost entirely subjective beyond the framework of objective morality, which is a chicken/egg discussion until we nail down good and evil first, would be pointless to talk about) due to the fact that he is both good and evil, he is both and neither at the same time, he is more than the diachotomy... he IS the diachotomy.
Evil is not created. It is a form of expression that comes out of free will i.e. the innate ability to make choices that either align with our Creator's will or emanate from selfish desires that stand in opposition to God's will. That was the sin of Lucifer and also our first parents.
"Evil" is the outworking of distortions of reality which man has the power to create in his mind and it be revealed in his life. Conversely, man has the power to maintain reality in his mind and it be revealed in Love.
I got a series problem how this guy defines omnipotence. Because if omnipotence as in all powerful just means can do anything in ones nature than everything is omnipotent. Because everything does what is with in their nature.
I have a question, if God didn't create evil than why does Isaiah 45:7 say otherwise Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Great topic! thanks for the informative view Dr Cabel
This man didn't even answer the question.... He dance around the whole thing.... If God is the creator of everything, then he made evil just as well as good....
@@gregoryhunt9427 Yes and He made dumb people for us too have a good laugh
Isaiah 45:7 says, I create the light Darkness good and evil. I the Lord do all these things.
Funny how a Christian educator can miss this verse when it is part of the answer to the question. Look down Pastor, your dishonesty is hanging out.
god did create evil so that you can know who the snake is.
@@MultiKINGWAYNE in the beginning, Man created God and ever since then he's been lying about it.
So, let me see if I got this straight. God creates the sinner, creates the concept of sin then sets things up such as to allow man to sin conveniently placing the mechanism for the fall right within arms reach, he creates the serpent knowing in advance that it will lure man into sin. He does all this knowing the outcome, yet he is not the author of evil? He allows evil to exist despite being powefull enough to make it go away with the snap of a finger and has the incentive to do so being all good. It just doesn't add up no matter how much you try to weave apologetics around it.
You guys are great!!
mugogrog This is exactly right. I’m still stuck in the Christian faith still. All the fear based indoctrination and perpetrator loyalty. It can literally cause mental illness within a person. I want more than anything to be completely rid of it. It has tainted my heart and mind for too many years. It should be outlawed to indoctrinate kids into religions. Kids are like a sponge and soak up the fear based propaganda right up and will have a much harder life bc of it.
Precisely u pointed out the exact hypocritical notion as many yet you worded it in an obviously÷ understandABLE= m a n n e r thank u
To me it seems pointless to worship such a hypocritical being hence my worship of the imaginary being known as lucifer ...sum lable him a Devil, mean to torture him even, sad that that's all human beings understand is causing and maintaining misery upon anything innocent ...I believe there 2 be a reason this being was originally called the seal of perfection then God kicks him out of heavenly bliss for the prideful sin he entertained in his thoughts of wanting to surpass God in glory? in my opinion he already has! pride and self love is rather like homosexuality which i confess 2 be guilty of and I'm fairly sure that it is my dark lord and master from the underworld which has encouraged this in my life n thank my lucky stars he has looking around and seeing every alternative lifestyle i could be living im now more then positive I've chosen the lesser of 2 evils. Besides who can it ever hurt...aside from the initial shock of love making that 2 men share the pain and pleasure of? seems only noble to me well in any event see you All in hell when the sinless God murders us All kuzz we didn't wanna be puppets 🤘🙏🤘
Actually most preachers are full of their own biases and dogmatic beliefs... and it says right in their own bible that god creates evil: Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) "I form the light and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the lord do all these things."
They never just answer the question; they just go all over other topics.
Hans Hoerdemann Because they can't answer these type of questions. God himself needs to answer our questions.
@@melissaverno1225 Let me know when he answers you.
Marlon Valdano if God doesn’t want us to know then he won’t want us to know
Depends if that evil is always survivable, I guess. Putting it all upon a flawed and sometimes divided church to warn the whole rest of humanity through mixed symbolism seems a bit awkward, though.
I WAS BORN CATHOLIC, I REALIZED THEY KILLED A LOT OF PEOPLE FOR HERESY, I ASKED MY FELLOW CATHOLICS, WHY SHOULD WE SUPPORT A CHURCH THAT HAS KILLED THOUSANDS OF PEOPLE. EXAMPLE GIORDANO BRUNO WAS KILLED BY BURNING FOR JUST TEACHING THAT THE EARTH WAS NOT THE CENTER OF THE UNIVERSE...YEAH BURN HIM ALIVE,,,, WAS THIS INSPIRED? BY WHO, WAS GOD HAPPY?
if you ask a christian if the bible is right, they would say yes. REASON because the bible say so, ITS CALLED TAP DANCING, ASK ANYONE ABOUT EXODUS 21:20-21, SEE ALL TYPES OF THEORIES.
JUST GO TO ABOUT 10 VIDEOS ON THIS THEN SEE THE ANSWERS, THEY ALL DIFFER
Simple answer:
Yes. He created everything.
Exactly God is the author of sin he created everything so God did create evil it's common sense
God = Dictator
Thats not how it works
@@deluxe5565 if he was a dictator you wouldn't be allowed to say that lol
Why would god make everyone good we would be robots he gave humans free minds they choose to do evil
So basically you don't have the answer to the question. Okay.
RP47 right lol
Right 😂😂
Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
What do you think you just quoted?
@@JamondBarron
Genesis 1:31
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
Isaiah is referring to natural disasters, calamities etc. Not a being with a choice. 😒 God created Perfect but also gave free will.
LOL'd. I'm a strict christian, but that still was funny.
Who created the Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil?
The one who created it is the one who created it
Aliens
@@shashajonday3380 wow that’s deep not
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light
I form the darkness
I make the peace
And create the Evil
I the Lord do all of these things
Rayutomoto actually is it:
I form the light and create darkness, I bring prosperity and create disaster, I the lord do all these things
Well it depends on the translation. The word ra‘ that is used means bad, evil, disaster- in short everything that is not good. So it only depends what transaltion you use. But just leaving all translation you can just say in short that in Isaiah 45:7 God is telling that he creates/forms/make all good thing and all bad things that are in this world. If you look at Proverb 16:4 where it's said "The Lord has made all for Himself, Yes, even the wicked for the day of doom." You can see that the God planed to create wicked people because he just wanted to. Even if there are many places where God is saying that he cares for us, well it doesn't change the fact that he created evil, that took the name Satan or Devil and he let him for example "torture" Job testing his loyality to God.
It's interesting you brought up that verse. I just had a discussion about this verse with a family member of mine. She told me God did not create evil. I pulled out my phone and said "I can find the exact verse that has God speaking and declaring this himself." She didn't want me to pull the verse up on my phone because she thought I was trying to distort the truth. "Let's use your bible then." She said "I'm not letting you near my bible." It's so screwed up how much religion blinds otherwise intelligent, rational people...
Viktor KC11
The translation doesn't matter, wether it is "evil", "disaster", "bad times", it always means that he brings bad things, disaster, he himself does that, and not Satan. And Satan himself was is creation, evil might have been his choice, but it was a choice well known by god.
giannis skoun ergo, God is both good and evil? but when bad things happen why God or in the bible accuse Satan? the more he did that the more Lucifer gets angry at him. He loves projection ergo, God is a narcissist?
Growing up in the church, we were taught that God is the creator of everything, so it makes sense that God created evil or the devil, the face that represents evil. So if you say God didn't create evil, he's not what we were taught, which brings up more questions than answering.
Everything God created are good. Disobedience brought sin. Angels disobey and became Satan. Humans disobey and turns God good to evil.
@@wakkiss2473 but if God is omniscient and created everything, he knew what he created was going to turn evil and did it anyway, that means he created evil.
Yes God created evil. He admits it actually. Read Isaiah 47:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create EVIL: I the LORD do all these things.
Isaiah 45:7
Problematic.
The free will argument doesn't work for angels.
@@basedpatriarch why not, they also had a choice. Did they not?
You don't even know what that verse means, you are the type of person to look up a comeback and then give it like you actually created it. You probably never touched a bible in your life and here you are grabbing a random verse, trying to make it say what you want it to say. And you can say it plainly written when you haven't read and understood the context around it. And you'll probably say "oh typically context rebuttal" but that is how the bible is, it is not just a story. It has poetry, analogy, hyperbolic, metaphors, song, instruction, simile, and much more. I can also take any verse and twist it to say what i what it to say aswell. If you actually know the context of the verse, you would come to realize that evil in THAT CONTEXT means calamity. Evil is a vague word with many different definitions. To get correctness you can look up what evil meant in greek, hebrew, or aramaic depending on the book. And yes God brings calamity ALL THE TIME, he controls the weather he created. Now why you may ask is another subject but know that what you did grabbing this verse like that shows you are uneducated in the subject and want to one up someone.
Your answer to the question is that he is omnibenevolent? That doesnt address the paradox at all, it is the philisophical equivalent of ‘nuh uh’. He sent his son to die on the cross? How does that prove he is all good? He is all powerful, just wave your hand and forgive people and give eternal life instead of torturing your child to death.
But he gave you free will so there’s also a reason your choice
@rez so he is like a strict over controlling parent who wants you to do what he wants but to gives you choise and if you don't choose what he wants then he beats you up (sends to hell) and later gives you an option that if you do a particular thing( ref to bealiving in Christ) he would not beat you up.
Just read it and tell me it's all pleasant and sunshine😑
@@therezboysoutdoors44 That’s not a choice it’s an ultimatum
If God created people - and the serpent- with the ability to sin, doesn't that make God the author of evil?
Corey Sharpe did light create shadows?
Joe
Did light create itself?
Shadows are a direct result of the power of the light
freewill
Shadows are created by something blocking the light from hitting a certain spot. So maybe when thinking about satan he is that object that is in the way and doesn't stops the light from reaching out to it's full extent.
wrong! Read This:
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
I would like to ask you two questions. 1. If God knows the end from the beginning, then why did he placed Adam and Eve in the garden beside the tree of good and evil and allow them to eat the fruit? Shouldnt he have just keep them away from the tree? 2. In Gen. 2:8-9 It says God made three types of trees one for food, one for life and the other is the knowledge of good and evil. Why did God create a tree of good and evil in the first place?
This this this this this this
I can only understand evil as suffering or something that can cause suffering. So if God created evil, doesn't that mean he is evil? How can he be good if he created suffering?
Suffering is a result of bad choices, being a result of sin. We have to take responsibility for our actions somehow or we wouldn't know the difference between good choices and bad choices. That's why God gave Adam and Eve choices. They chose wrongly and paid the consequences for their sin. God didn't create sin, man did by making bad choices. Lucifer sinned by making bad choices. It's called free will. We may have freedom of choice, but we don't have freedom from choice. We weren't made to be robots. We are humans. We make choices.
Levi Best where in the Bible does it say that
Evil shouldn't been a choice
@@Revelation18-4 give up we don't even have control of our thoughts byproduct of evolution of the brain stem and
Psychopathy is particularly curious to me as there seems to be evidence that suggests it’s inherent to a small set of individuals; at the very least it appears to be a predisposition for a small percentage of people, indicating that lack of empathy and conscience is not always a choice. This one is a major conundrum for me.
The lack of empathy and conscience from a warped brain from birth is a major conundrum, I agree. I appreciate your honesty and thank you for raising the issue.
God has created everything good according to his will. But because there are so many phenomena, attributes and qualities in humans, we as humans dont morally choose and want, a perfectly good and perfectly moral God must have an even greater amount of attributes he doesnt want and chooses. For he is All Good and everything opposite of his will and goodness must be not his will and condemned, for it is evil. There are good beings created in his Image. Then there must be those that arent created in his Image. Now its not even his fault. We all dont want the negative things we create ourselves. Its natural. We create things by not wanting them. Suffering seems to happen anyway by us not wanting it. And so i believe God semi-created evil not by wanting it, but because he didnt want it. Evil in its very nature is born and grounded in everything we dont want. And some believe evil doesnt exist so therefore it cannot ever be killed. And its true. Evil doesnt exist. And I dont mean it doesnt exist persay. It semi-exists through God because even the Devil lives off Gods energy and source. He was created as the twister, the resister. The snake in the garden. It seems the Devil makes his way to us. Every day i question my morality increasingly. As if i feel Satan rising from hell and God is descending from heaven. I surely hope the End times will go out well.
You know, sometimes I feel extremely tired to become God's creation.I don't want to rebel against Him but sometimes I can't compassionate with God
Want to talk about it?
God jailed all in disobedience so that he could have mercy on them all Romans 11:32
God consigned ( forced, jailed ) all creation AGAINST ITS WILL to futility Romans 8:20
Trust Him, he is Father of all and wills all men to be saved 1Timothy 2:4
God will accomplish all that He wills Isaiah 46:10, Daniel 4:35 , Ephesians 1:11, 1 Corinthians 15:28
0:41
I form the light and create darkness
I make peace and create evil
I the LORD do all these things
Isaiah 45:7
The Hebrew word translated as “evil” (ra‘) in the King James Version of Isaiah 45:7 has two applications in the Bible. The term can be used in the sense of moral evil, such as wickedness and sin (Matthew 12:35; Judges 3:12; Proverbs 8:13; 3 John 1:11), or it can refer to harmful natural events, calamity, misfortune, adversity, affliction, or disaster. It is in this second sense that Isaiah speaks, and his meaning is reflected in most modern Bible translations of Isaiah 45:7 (emphasis added): “I make success and create disaster” (HCSB); “I make well-being and create calamity” (ESV); “I send good times and bad times” (NLT).
God does not create moral evil. For one thing, moral evil is not a “thing” to be made but a choice or intent contrary to God’s good purposes, His holy character, and His law. Moral evil does not conform to God and His will.
Nice job dancing around the question like your running for congress. Here's the answer.
Isaiah 45:7
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL I the Lord, do all these things.
That is not creating sin or an evil being. This refers to drought, famine, pestilence etc. Evil circumstances. How you react to them is on you. God created all things Good.
@@chkn-littlerebuking7168 Causing Drought, Famine, Pestilence, Disasters, Calamity, Satans, Demons, etc. are all Evil. They are all Undesirable. And Isaiah 45:7 proves that the God of the Bible is the Creator and Author of All Evil: "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL I the Lord, do all these things.". The Whole World now knows this and can Read this verse in the Bible to Know this... and you can no longer win.
@@almacoles5501 I was a christian for many many years, I 100% agree.
@@chkn-littlerebuking7168 Those are evil, genius, which is why it says the word 'evil' in the verse.
@@doctorwebman lol they try thier hardest to hide from that passage but the truth is God creates evil. I was mentally attacked by something against my will even when I was in church even when I was trying to read the bible and no help came. In contrast I help homless people when I have cash on me without them crying to me, without them asking me personally I see they need help and help. A God sits on his butt whem people need help and does nothing!
Love it but can you explain this scripture?
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.”
Isaiah 45:7 KJV
Is Destruction, not evil
Isaiah 45:7
“I forme the light, and create darkenesse: I make peace, and create euill: I the Lord do all these things.”
I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things. Isaiah 45:7
Most religious leaders wont share that God created both because they are deceptive and have an agenda that is ungodly.
Well I’ve always enjoyed the answers given on this channel but I got to admit this time it felt like he avoided the actual question. Didn’t find it very satisfactory this time
I hear people say that evil was created when humans sinned. But wasn’t the angel Lucifer rising up against God a sin? Didn’t Lucifer becoming Satan mean he became the embodiment of evil? Didn’t all this happen before humans were even created? So, if this is all true, then evil was present well before humans came into the picture and therefore evil was created by some entity. If God is all powerful, if He didn’t create evil, then He at least allowed it to be created. That is where my problem with Him lays.
I have even heard some say that God created good and that evil somehow manifest after adam and eve eating from the tree of knowledge of all things but as one start to rationalize this you have to ask how you have one without tbe other. If you have a premise for good than you have to have a comparison as to gage it. The way I see it is that you can't have one without the other and the bible just proves it self to be just a book of fairy tales😃
Yeah but if you're a Christian apologist then isn't it your JOB to do mental gymnastics and make excuses for Christianity? Stop letting Christians explain away discrepancies in the Bible. They can't be objective. They've got too much invested in Christianity to be objective.
I've been chewing on this for a while: God is eternal, and all knowing, but also totally sovereign. Evil didn't simply happen; He planned for it to happen. He didn't simply know it would, He intended for it to happen. Which means for as long as God has been eternal (forever), the very concept OF evil has existed in God's mind also eternally.
He is the knowledge of good and evil , swallow now
I mean if you look at Isaiah 45:7
@@bragsaint7824 why was evil created?
@@bragsaint7824 the "evil" mentioned there isn't "Sin". It means calamities, disaster or the wrath of God. God is not the author of sin. ""The context of Isaiah 45:7 is God rewarding Israel for obedience and punishing Israel for disobedience. God pours out salvation and blessings on those whom He favors. God brings judgment on those who continue to rebel against Him. “Woe to him who quarrels with his Master” (Isaiah 45:9). That is the person to whom God brings “evil” and “disaster.” "" Context is Key! Always seek the help of the holy spirit to help you understand, but if we read to prove the bible is wrong, it is not too difficult to find verses out of context and interpret it in a wrong way.
God didn't create evil, no one did since evil does not exist on its own. Evil is like rust on an iron rod, it only exists as the lack of good. If you take away the rust, you're left with a clean iron rod. However, if you take away the rod, are you left with the rust? No, you're left with nothing, because the rust doesn't exist on its own.
Still have the question, "where did evil come from?" I guess i have a 2nd question, "since God is all knowing, why does He create people that He knows will end up in hell?" Thank you for your videos. BE SAFE,GOD BLESS!🙏
I can answer these for you
1st question- evil comes from a lack in a good thing. Evil cannot exist on its own, its like cancer. If you take all the cancer out of a body, you have a better body. But if you take all the body out of cancer, you have nothing. Oh sure you can have sunshine without shadows, but you cannot have shadows without sunshine. You can have good without evil, but you cannot have evil without good.
2nd question- why would God create people he knows would go to hell. I got a question aswell, if you know something is going to happen ahead of time, does that mean that the thing shouldnt happen? If you were to know who would win the super bowl, and your team is losing. Would you try to change the outcome? If yes, then you are taking away their free will. It is the same with God, if God were to only create people that he knew would go to heaven then be would be taking to free will away from people he knew would be not giving them the choice, even though he knows the outcome. But just cause he knows the outcome, does that mean the people dont have free will? No ofcourse they do, he just knows how they will turn out
@romeo9782 Swallowed that one did you, no one but an unsound mind would choose to go to endless torture or annihilation and you have written that it is our own action/choice that saves us whereas scripture declares that it is grace alone that saves . "A man can recieve nothing unless it is given from heaven " John 3:27 Ephesians 2:8 declares the grace and faith of Christ saves us, a gift of God and not of yourselves and stresses not any action/choice of yourself. If you try to add your personal faith into the story Romans 4:16 reminds you that faith rests on grace. Thankfully it has nothing to do with you " the Lord directs a man's step, so then how can anyone know his way " Proverb 20:24 Just as John 3:27 declares even a man's faith is given by God Romans 12:3
What sin will prevent God from correcting sin (sin means to miss the mark" or make a mistake ) when He corrects or saves by grace (undeserved favor/kindness ) " Grace super exceeds sin for wherever sin is grace abounds all the more " Romans 5:20
@@attav8 2. While it doesn’t take away their free will, it only makes the situation on God’s favor more arbitrary. That’s like creating a bomb knowing it will explode one day and destroy your home, would I not be responsible?
@@onlyechadtherebellious2467 my answer has changed. God is fully sovereign. He has predestinated the world. He plan was from the beginning, also his elect; along with the vessels of destruction. It is God's story. HIStory, and if you were to learn what that story was you may or my not see the beauty. I see the beauty, it is the best love stoy one can concoct.
@@attav8 why does he make my race suffer so much?
We have hardly done anything wrong at any point in history.
We have been enslaved, raped, murdered and continually pushed top the bottom of an invisible barrel and there is nothing we can do matter how we try or what we do even to this day.
I'm talking about people of western African decent.
God knows we don't want this and we can't choose the body in which we are born, what do you suggest we do?
What does it mean when you can't feel the evil in your actions because you deny your guilt so much that you no longer feel the consequences of your behaviour
Its called Denial.. You said it
The God of the Bible created the options, gave them to us to choose from using our freewill.
So if I choose evil it's not my fault, the option was given to me right?
Two ways to look at it.
1. Is either the God of the Bible wanted it this way for His pleasure, or 2. it took Him by surprise.
How can you be God who created Lucifer as an angel, and didn't know he was going to be this evil on the land and didn't stop it?
Is there some power in Lucifer that the God of the Bible did not know about?
There is a 3rd option which is he made us with free will to choose him or reject him he didnt make us all robots because he loves us.
Right man ur spot on
@@Wdym41 no buddy that's a way to look at it..he did that for his fun ...not ur free will dummy..u think he loves u that Much to give u freewill so u can be hurt...sounds like the love of a black woman who give there sons away to violence and prison..no...god cud have infact created a peaceful place ..it's too many people like miself battling to be in Christ side and losing mi mental health for this shit .when I cud wish evolution is real and that mi body can go back to the dust.....there's more to it I know it...
Interesting questions Rahfyah
@@thankfulblessed3043 he did create a peace place.our choices, whether you accept it or not, changed that
Evil exists to test moral endurance. Moral endurance exists to test faith. Without the testing of faith there is no need for faith. Without the need for faith their is no need for God or even to exist since all things hoped for are already present. In this case the world would be plagued with something even worse than evil... eternal boredom.
Isaiah 45:7 I make peace and I create evil... on a plate
but He also mocks and laughs at the dispair and calamity of the blameless and innocent.You...
Job 9:22-23
Careful, be wise and true to yourself
God doesn't laugh at our suffering the fuck!!
Job said he DID that, not god, god didn't say anything about that
No decent person would treat his kids as god treated Adam and Eve! If your kid gets in trouble you throw him away in the streets???? And if he doesn't learn the lesson in the streets, then, you condemn him to hell for eternity?? Really??? That's the way you would treat your kid?????
some traits in evil is needed for survival and when used that way it is no longer evil but the choice to do these acts or have those feelings need to exist in order to survive.
why does he have to send jesus to die in order to forgive us? cant he just forgive us if he is all forgiving and loving? and if he does not forgive then he wil cast evil? then who is evil then? so ironic. simply god, satan, angels, creatures in the bible do not exist but are jewish myths!
If you think about it, the whole Jesus figure had to exist in order for the bible to be considered as doctrine because Jesus was prophesize, so if there was no Jesus figure than more people would see the bible and religion as a whole as tbe joke tbag it is. Another point, as to any good novel, story, movie etc you have to have a hero and there main antagonist, the whole crucifixion deal takes care of that and make some people think that god actually made some great sacrifice for humanity😃
How does God “fearfully and wonderfully” make us(Psalms 139) with a sin nature?
Sana Singh sorry, that’s not true. You need to read the Bible. It’s very clear that we are born with a fallen sin nature.
Sana Singh read your Bible. God took away the Penalty of our sin, but we all still posses a sin nature. The apostle Paul said it best in Romans 7 as he described his own spiritual condition. I don’t need opinions. If you have something to say, please use the Bible to support your position.
"Perfection, is, the enemy, of GOOD"'
Isaiah 45:7 “I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
What you're telling me that God has limit
Yes, He cannot lie, go back on His word, basically sin... because He is good, just, and Holy.
The whole “free will,” cop out doesn’t cut it; if “God’s” supposed excuse for evil is “for freedom,” he must know, being omniscient, that his hands-off approach to the universe will yield precisely the horrible outcomes that he has permitted within his design. Knowing that humans have a general core of prosocial behavior but with selfish and often antisocial inclinations (which we see across religions and cultures), one should really consider the guilt lying in the baseline design of human behavior. Why are people, regardless of religion, generally opposed to the breach of consistent moral norms? I’ve always thought the free will argument lacks rigor. If you’re going to argue for a creator god, you need to imbue him with the capacity for mistakes if you’re going to make him benevolent. Frankly though, I think it’s silly why people don’t consider the possibility of a careless or even malicious god... but I suppose “dogma” is the explanation for that.
The thing here is. God is the ultimate creator of everything we can sense with our consciousness. This means god created evil. But it doesnt mean that god created humans with evil. Everything has an opposing force to it. Satan joined the evil even though god created hin for the light. The same way, humans are also created for the light not the darkness. That is why god sent Jesus to reverse what Adam did and gave humans a chance to know the truth.
God is both black and white. Light and darkness. Thats why satan was always the prince of darkness, not the king. Anyone who thinks that god is only light is wrong. Actually, the truth is that god cannot be described. Because if we can describe god, then it means the creator of a videogame is also in the videogame. The creator must be outside the creation.
? WHY What you just described involves what is referred to as the “Russellian Paradox,” as propounded by Bertrand Russell; roughly, “a set of all sets, must include itself.”
We all would assume that...though in God's defence are our attitude problems really God's fault? It's said God put man & woman into a paradise garden without a trace of anything that would cause pain or suffering where they would live in perfect weather perfect soft bliss ...they didn't even know they we're naked and had no shame over their bloody bodies yet GOD also laid out a golden rule...1 simple rule for the two of them not to break \hence choice was created ...you gotta wonder how long Adam and eve just lived in paradise before their curiosity got the best of them n decided they could totally be better God'$ then the 1 and only perfect one and HELL we're they right the evidence of just how much better a job humans are at being GOD'S is all around us. It's scary just how Godly men and woman can act unchecked
He could have denied you the ability to have free will to choose but he did not want you to be a programmed robot.
This is a very interesting topic. If we agree that God is the creator, then wouldn’t he have created evil as well? He is not limited to the dimension of time like humans are, so wouldn’t He have known what he was creating when He created the world?
God didn't create evil, no one did since evil does not exist on its own. Evil is like rust on an iron rod, it only exists as the lack of good. If you take away the rust, you're left with a clean iron rod. However, if you take away the rod, are you left with the rust? No, you're left with nothing, because the rust doesn't exist on its own.
Isaiah 45:7
“I forme the light, and create darkenesse: I make peace, and create euill: I the Lord do all these things.”
GOD CREATED EVIL!!! why’s it so hard for people to accept?
If God is perfectly good, no need to add other omnis, it is enough totally. If God didn’t, who did? Who will have much power to do like that or another God?
if God does know everything a person/angel will do before they are created.
that means god creates souls that do evil.
satan create man,
@@adaspaker8404 proof?
@@adaspaker8404 man created satan,heaven,hell and god
@@kikit7262 and
man created nazi camps, communists camps and wars and
colonialism and racism
The Lord Pickles it’s all depends by your choice
If I say evil born in love.. will you accept it..
Think logically.there is no such thing as evil but love do exit and so it lets to promise, Truth, caring, forgiveness and so on
When u do love u expect love in return from who show ur love
This is my thoughts
So let me get this right. You put treats all over the house for your dog, when you go to work, AND put the freshly cooked smelling chicken at the center of the house and you tell him not to eat it while you are gone. If the dog eats the chicken he have sinned??? Because he had free will and it was his CHOICE???? Seriously????
And then, you throw him out to live as a stray, because you LOVE him???????
Sure!!!!!!
I wonder what you would do if you hated him?
Is there anything worse than abandoning your child???
He abandoned humans and if we abandone him we go to hell???
If that isn't projecting, what is??????
You don’t have it right. Let’s look at your analogy from a different perspective. You would never do any of the things your comment says because unlike the dog, you know better. You know that if you did put treats and chicken out that the dog’s nature would make the dog eat the treats and the chicken. Why shouldn’t you just let your dog eat whatever it wants? Because you know that it’s not in its best interest.
This reoccurring idea that God puts things in our path to encourage us to do wrong is persistent but is false. We are not “dogs”. We are taught right from wrong from a young age. We also have a conscience that tells us (for instance) that taking something that doesn’t belong to us is wrong. When we choose to ignore our teachings or conscience, we are the ones to blame, not God.
But the good news is that Christ took the blame. We just must ask him to personally take that blame from us. We also can choose that. If we decide to choose not to, we choose to live as the stray in your example. God loves all, but he will not command you to love Him back. God (like any parent) wants only the best for you and me. Sometimes that means we don't do the things we think are best for us at the time.
A good question i have asked so many people but haven’t gotten an answer besides “God will answer all questions when he picks up his people” which is blind following.
1: what was the purpose of creating angels?
- why does he need to be praised and glorified? Wouldn’t that be egotistical?
- what made Lucifer believe that he can actually beat God and dethrone him? What could Lucifer have possibly told the angels making a whopping 1/3 of them turn their backs towards God when they can’t even defeat the Archangels in a fight?
Thats an insane amount of Angels who are made holy! Makes you think what does Lucifer/Satan know that WE do not know.
- if God does not make mistakes, why did he have to flood the earth to save it? AND THEN later sacrifice his son to save us again?
1. Love, same reason he made humans.
- he doesn't need anything, all glory and praise goes to God because he deserves it. The almighty is incapable of being egotistical, egotism is an undue sense of self importance. This is never true of God as he gets all the credit for creation, has perfect justice, knows all, is all powerful and is love. So it's never undue.
- Satan challenged God's right to rule, his sovereignty. Claimed that people are better off ruling themselves. A challenge that would have gone nowhere if Adam had obeyed. He took the opportunity to corrupt man at the start.
-Satan tempted the other angels with the daughters of men, it says they noticed them. Understand that it was around 1500 years before the flood so it's possible they thought God was not going to act. You can be sure Satan was bragging about all the fun he was having.
There is by definition only one archangel, it means chief angel. I do agree that whatever they thought it was silly to think they were going to win, but as we know that reasoning doesn't stop those who don't want to obey the rules.
-The flood was to cleanse the earth, it says that they ruined the earth there was so much violence. Remember the situation, demons running around in human suits doing whatever they wanted with angelic power and spawning huge bullies called nephilim. Demonic influence is very bad today but image dealing with them in person. Also they were trying to corrupt the line of the promised seed, that seed was Jesus and his sacrifice saves obedient mankind, not the flood.
Someone with blind faith is not following Bible teaching. The Bible provides mountains of evidence and solid reasoning that true faith is based on.
Y'all need to read Isaiah. God-Jehovah is telling you that He created evil. If a person creates evil, then what does that tells you about His character?
He is an asswhipe
Marlon Valdano you’re sick
He creates calamity, not moral evil. Big difference. Look into the translation.
@Gregs Designs Dont blame God for your sinful use of free will
@@Polack21 Your a deceived person BECAUSE sin and evil are not the same thing. Find out what they are and come back and say sorry for being such a stupid fool. Ok Ok since you beg in your heart, and your mind is really straining the Hebrew word for sin in English literally means " to miss the mark " God doesn't sin because he knows everything and can't make a mistake. You made a mistake by thinking the word should be calamity instead of evil because it is the same Hebrew word used for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, never heard anyone say the tree of the knowledge of good and calamity. Now see if you can find out what evil means and then start thinking
So where did sin come from if not from god. Who or what tempted Satan to really be the first sinner? And if God didnt create sin how can he stop sin after his judgement when we are in heaven?
Wow he did not answer the question
He's trying to protect God and won't even mention Isaiah 45-7 when I know he knows it's fucking in there
@@acdc9299 www.eternalgod.org/q-a-14342/
The explanation for that scripture😑
I was genuinely, sincerely interested in hearing an answer to this question. I never got one. Lots of belittling of the beliefs of eastern religions, “pagans,” atheists, and so on - but no real attempt to explain why the Author of the universe would create it in such a way as to permit even the potential of evil, let alone allow its flourishing. Too bad.
I think evil came from free will. The ability to choose implies that at best there is a good and better option, and at worst a good and bad option. I think the reason evil exists is because free will was a must, otherwise what is a world without free will? A meaningless painting of gray, no colors, everything is just...existing. While evil was not what God wanted, it was the necessary risk to bring about the existence of good, to give meaning to everything. Choice gave the world the color it needed, to have meaning and aspirations, to strive to become good people.
These, of course, are just my thoughts. I could be very wrong.
You are wrong because you are working with wrong information.
Free will doesn't exist without God so you want to sit there and tell me God is all knowing yet didn't know evil would exist
I am good and evil and proud of it. These two powers that are in constant conflict are essential for spiritual growth. Nothing exists without purpose. Even if sucks.
if God created all things and he created evil and that's including all things
Thats not how it works
@@attav8 How so if god is all-knowing he definitely created evil?
@@drolay2 that literally is the biggest fallacy I've ever sedn
@@attav8 How? he knows the beginning and the end he is omnipotent yet he still created Lucifer knowing he would become evil, he obviously wanted there to be evil.
There is nothing but God. You, yourself are not separate from it. It's an illusion of what we call the ego.
Everything, EVERYTHING has it's opposite. Life needs contrast. You wouldn't know what good is if there was no evil. Darkness and light, negative and positive both have their purpose. EVERYTHING perfect the way it is......realize this. What makes life precious is the fact that one day you will die.
Try to walk the path between the opposites. Stay on the middle path avoiding extremes and you will always be fine.
If God has created evil and he allows us to be of a sin nature, and this is his program of which we normally do not understand....Then there should never be an everlasting punishment in hell if God is responsible for allowing evil.
What is the nature of God's hatred for people. These days it seems like there are very few Christians who are willing to come to grips with the fact that the Bible tells us that God actually does hate people. How are we to understand this hatred especially in light of his commands for us to love our neighbors?
That's a very interesting question. What do you think?
Super Language Learning I thought it was a good question, too, and I've actually been wondering the same thing.
Where in the Bible does it say that God hates people? Thanks.
William Garrett god hates nobody! He only hates the person's sin
Joan C // Genesis 6:6.
. God said he regretted creating human beings
the absence of evil creates good. meaning that good doesn't exist, only evil, that invented that illusion to gain a place in the force of balance dictated by the real thing : Nature, which he is trying to destroy (with our help)
The Bible says God created evil. but He also gave His creation the freedom of choice to pick what they may. like the person who created the gun. he knows what the creation was for, but it's the owner of the gun that had the ultimate choice to do or don't.
But god has a Devine plan for everyone, he already knows what you’re going to choose before you choose it so it’s just the illusion of free will
Andrew Shanaberger every man has a choice. it is up to us to make the decision to accept Christ or not. if you know about Christ and still decide to go against Him, who's choice is that? So many people ignore their conscience that they become numb to the right and wrongs of the world. they now confuse the two. their thoughts are perverted. but it's their own individual choice that leads people to destruction. it's God's will that none will perish, but the choice is still up to you at the end of the day.
"The Bible says God created evil." Yes, no 'but'. That's not what a loving' god would do. Would you give your child a gun to play with and say you have free will to go shoot yourself, but I don't want you to?
@@ValdanoPG True
Can't demons disguise themselves? Since Eve, have not humans been UNABLE to see God? Something EVERY angel had an option of?
Many people say ‘God allowed it!’ No. God allows free will, not the abuse of it (sin). The fallen angels rebelled & sinned, not because God allowed it - but because God honors His Word (this is how they try to trick people, taking liberties into their own hands).
He does not fully answer the question. And though I do believe in God I have never met an atheist who didn't know the difference between Good and Evil. They have morals very similar to Christians in fact, their morality just comes from within their own paradigme, their own perception of this world.
Isaiah 45:7
King James Version
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Ask God’s Word if God created evil.
Can I be honest with you sometimes I wish there was some type of angel hero or something Lucifer need to be vanquished and erase
Jesus is our savior, our protector, our refuge, our father, our love, and our God. If we put all of our trust in him, nothing can hurt us. :)
@@zoerimel3920 The disciples were killed and tortured but they trust God , God doesn't care on our physical body that's why i hate himmm...
@@KarlCruz655 ever since i found Jesus about 6 months ago, my life is 1000x easier. im so thankful
Bruh lucifer is literally the hero you're talking about he wants pleasure for all
@@thalassaer4137 youre being deceived.
"Evil" is not a cause, it's a consequence. It is not "created" or "sourced" by God it is a consequence of our self-centered choices.
God planned it all.
To say that he didn't is to imply there is something outside of God's control, which is to say he isn't omnipotent.
what was the answer!?
No, he does not
The answer is yes.. Ive thought about it.. In isaiah 45:7 it mentiones it.. “I form the light, and create darkness; I make peace, and create evil. I the LORD do all these things.”
I thought about it.. He did create evil but it was because of giving mankind choices.. And that was what made man kind destroy itself long ago.. But he gave choices just like our parents gave us choices as we grew.. So if you think about it its up to us whether we listen or not.. So we cant blame God but ourselves..
@@ruthlessog9098 @JJ1X
The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.
@@dewayne9508 nahh. It was our choices that made us wicked, yes the lord knows the outcome but he thought we would have done the opposite, but instead we didn't and now we are living in our own karma.. so therefore it wasn't God that planted a miserable life, we did that to our selfd
@@ruthlessog9098 that is a verse from the bible so when you say nahhh youre calling the bible a lie
Understanding that God is omni and creates the good and evil takes power away from man and the church, and simply helps you understand your purpose on/it this realm. - it's a test ground to ascension - or stay stuck till you figure it out. And this realm ain't easy.
Yes!You are right.
This answered none of my questions
What answer do you want?
Would you agree that there is a universal right and wrong, good and evil? If you do then you know that these are inherent to humans and ingrained in us. We know it’s wrong to kill someone just as we know it feels good inside to love someone. We know 2+2=4 is right, and 2+2=5 is wrong. These are the laws of the universe. Since God created the universe, His dna if you want to call it that, or simply just His character, is spread throughout the universe and everything in it. So if God is righteous, loving, just, etc, why is there evil? The answer to this is very logical and is shown throughout creation, just as the previously mentioned laws are. For example, we know what light is because darkness exists. If darkness never existed, we would not know what light was because it had always been. If no evil was in the universe, we would not know what good was for the same reasoning. Evil was a reaction to the creation of everything, just as light is to darkness, when you turn on the light the darkness hides. This is why there is a heaven and hell. Many ask why can’t God save everyone. The right answer to this is because darkness cannot exist in the light, both metaphorically and literally. In creation of the universe, there must be a dimension that contains hell and a dimension that contains heaven, not only pure good and pure heaven. I hope this helped answer any questions
It's so disappointing when someone asks a question and nobody knows the answer.
@@cole4540 The right answer is He is going to save everyone 1Corinthians 15:28
@@matthewstahl2487 Are you stupid? How many times have people quoted Isaiah 45:7
I'm a believer but if God knows everything before it happens then why did he create Satan if he knew what the outcome would be
Yasss queen
Sorry Dr. Cabel, but you really did not answer the question correctly. If God is ALL POWERFUL (and He is because He's omnipotent), if He is ALL KNOWING (and he is because He's omniscient), if He is ALL SEEING (and He is because He's omnipresent) then why could not evil be in the mind of the Almighty Creator when he began to create the universe and everything in existence? For everything that God set His mind to do he created an opposite to it. Go back to the very beginning: there was first a void where nothing existed. Then God spoke existence (the opposite) into the void and that which He spoke began to fill the void. There was darkness covering the face of the deep and God spoke light (the opposite) into the darkness. When he created man in His image it was in the spirit. But when He formed man from the ground and breathed life into this physical form of His image and he (man) became a living soul, then he became the opposite of the image of God. And from the man, He (God) created his (man's) opposite..... woman.
It was not God's intent for man to possess the nature of evil because of the qualities and the power that lies within it. In the book of Genesis, chapter one, verse 31, we see that the work that God had done in the six days of creation was very good.
"And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day."
And as we very well know, the opposite of everything good is bad or in other words, evil. So where did this evil come from? Did Lucifer, Satan, the devil create it? Or did it come from God, because He knew, afore time, that there would become opposition to His divine nature and glory because of His omniscience, His omnipotence, and His omnipresence.
I don't think it to be wrong to have such thinking, but in still, I don't blame God for the evil things that take place among men and creation. I blame man for taking on the one quality of the nature of evil and that one quality is SIN.
Peace and God bless
gogibs b
Don't follow?
gogibs b
I don't understand your reply.
Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Isaiah 45:7 King James Version (KJV)
7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.
Merlyn ergo, God created good and evil. and every flaw that man make he blame it to Lucifer (his angel of light). his angel of light doing darkness?? he should be interviewed to straighten things for us (people) and will have peace.
Thou art worthy, O Lord, to receive glory and honor and power: for thou has created all things, and for thy pleasure they are and were created. (Revelations 4:11)
You cant create something that cant objectively exist on its own
@@attav8 What does that mean?
If you go to isiah it tells you i form the light i creat the darkness i creat piece and creat evil.
The hebrew word they get evil from is raw and includes all evils including calamity.
Raw means all evils including calamity but not limited to calamity.
Plus you say God's omnipotence means he can do anything in his nature.
The problem with this way of defining omnipotence is how you define omnipotence means i'm omnipotent.
If you define omnipotence like you do a dog is omnipotent a cat is omnipotent and so are all humans.
Plus you say good and evil are human traits and God can not be evil for this reason but he is good when thats a human traight.
It doesn't help for simple minds to believe that God created good and evil by him saying in Jeremiah 32: 42 "For thus saith the Lord: Like I have brought great evil upon this people, so will I bring upon them all the good that I have promised them." This statement did not say he allows evil. Instead it stated that he brought it.
Otherworldly views?? There is no other worlds according to the Bible! Other than that you did a very good job of explaining why God did he create you God bless you man
Were does Freewill and Makinds Responsible for Acts or Choices, God is Indirectly Responsible not Directly Responsible for Mankind's Sins (Wrongdoings).
Enjoyed the video! Thank you!
Perhaps a follow up question would be "Why does God allow evil?"
+LivingStr0nger Glad you enjoyed the video. Yes, next week Dr Cabal will be answering, "Why do bad things happen to good people?" Make sure you are subscribed to our RUclips channel so you don't miss it Wednesday @ 8am!
LivingStr0nger the devil can work though people just as god can, god gave us free will, he also equipped us with that inner voice we know what's right and wrong, that inner voice is preprogrammed in us from god , we know that killing is wrong even if there no man made law saying it's wrong , same thing with stealing we know it's wrong that's where free will comes in god doesn't want to be a dictator
Do you mean "why does God create evil"?
@@rsar61 wait wasn't the knowledge of good and evil from Adam and Eve eating the forbidden fruit?
why are we going through all this bad stuff on earth if god knows everything before it happens. I hope its not to prove a point to satan bc if thats the case which it seem like then he must really love satan
God made everything, knowing everything that would happen. He knew what the devil would do, what adam and eve would do, what sins you would do. You going to heaven or hell was set in stone the moment he made the world.
Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: *I make peace, and CREATE EVIL*: I the LORD do all these things."
+Reforma Your comment - "Isaiah 45:7 "I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things."
My comment - Many Calvinists will falsely teach that man has no free will especially in regards to the free gift of eternal life. They will falsely teach that God is the author of sin and evil based upon an eisegesis of Isaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6, and many other Scriptural passages taken out of context and used in isolation in support of their false doctrine. They will falsely teach that it is God that causes man to do evil and sin and at the same time teach that man is held accountable which makes no logical sense.
Passages such as Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6 in the KJV need to be read in light of other Bible translations and Scriptural passages that give the reader the context and better clarity of what is being taught when it says in those passages that God "created evil."
1) Isaiah 45:7 KJV currently reads, "I form the light, and CREATE DARKNESS: I make peace, and CREATE EVIL: I the LORD do all these things."
2) Isaiah 45:7 NIV - I form the light and CREATE DARKNESS, I bring prosperity and CREATE DISASTER; I, the LORD, do all these things.
3) Isaiah 45:7 NASB - The One forming light and creating darkness, Causing well-being and CREATING CALAMITY; I am the LORD who does all these.
4) Amos 3:6 in the KJV, it currently reads, "Shall a trumpet be blown in the city, and the people not be afraid? shall there be EVIL in a city, and the LORD hath not done it?"
5) Amos 3:6 NIV - When a trumpet sounds in a city, do not the people tremble? When DISASTER comes to a city, has not the LORD caused it?
6) Amos 3:6 NASB - If a trumpet is blown in a city will not the people tremble? If a CALAMITY occurs in a city has not the LORD done it?
When one looks at these different translations and do a comparison, one will discover that the word "evil" in the context of Isaiah 45:7 and Amos 3:6 refers to "disaster" and "calamity" that God brings upon those who are willfully disobedient, unfaithful, and who do wicked acts, whether saved or unsaved. In other words, those people reap what they willfully sow. God chastises them by bringing "evil", "disaster", and "calamity" as a wake up call.
One should NOT read Isaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6 and other related passages in isolation and out of context and draw a conclusion from that method because in doing so, one will most likely get the wrong interpretation. Christians need to read those passages in light of other Scriptural passages such as the ones in Jeremiah to get a better understanding of whatIsaiah 45:7, Amos 3:6 is really saying.
The following passages in Jeremiah explain why God brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon people. God does not do these things in a whimsical, arbitrary, and capricious way according to the "secret counsels of His will" and according to His "sovereign good pleasure" which is what Calvinism would falsely teach.
God gives the reason why through the prophet Jeremiah when people questioned why evil, disaster, and calamity fell upon them:
1) Jeremiah 1:14, 16 - 14 Then the Lord said unto me, Out of the north an EVIL shall break forth upon all the inhabitants of the land.
16 And I will utter my judgments against them touching all their wickedness, who have forsaken me, and have burned incense unto other gods, and worshipped the works of their own hands.
2) Jeremiah 4:1,4,6 - If thou wilt return, O Israel, saith the Lord, return unto me: and if thou wilt put away thine abominations out of my sight, then shalt thou not remove. 4 Circumcise yourselves to the Lord, and take away the foreskins of your heart, ye men of Judah and inhabitants of Jerusalem: lest my fury come forth like fire, and burn that none can quench it, because of the evil of your doings.6 Set up the standard toward Zion: retire, stay not: for I will bring EVIL from the north, and a great destruction.
3) Jeremiah 4:18 - 18 Thy way and thy doings have procured these things unto thee; this is thy wickedness, because it is bitter, because it reacheth unto thine heart.
4) Jeremiah 5:19 - 19 And it shall come to pass, when ye shall say, WHEREFORE DOETH THE LORD OUR GOD ALL THESE THINGS UNTO US? then shalt thou answer them, Like AS YE HAVE FORSAKEN ME, and SERVED STRANGE GODS in your land, so shall ye serve strangers in a land that is not your's.
5) Jeremiah 6:19 - 19 Hear, O earth: behold, I WILL BRING EVIL upon this people, even the fruit of their thoughts, BECAUSE THEY HAVE NOT HEARKENED UNTO MY WORDS, NOR TO MY LAW, BUT REJECTED IT.
6) Jeremiah 9:12-14 - 12 Who is wise enough to understand this? Who has been instructed by the Lord and can explain it? WHY HAS THE LAND BEEN RUINED AND LAID WASTE LIKE A DESERT THAT NO ONE CAN CROSS?
13 The Lord said, “IT IS BECAUSE THEY HAVE FORSAKEN MY LAW, WHICH I SET BEFORE THEM; THEY HAVE NOT OBEYED ME OR FOLLOWED MY LAW. 14 INSTEAD, THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE STUBBORNNESS OF THEIR HEARTS; THEY HAVE FOLLOWED THE BAALS, AS THEIR ANCESTORS TAUGHT THEM."
7) Jeremiah 11:10-11 - 10 They are turned back to the iniquities of their forefathers, which refused to hear my words; and they went after other gods to serve them: the house of Israel and the house of Judah have broken my covenant which I made with their fathers.
11 Therefore thus saith the Lord, Behold, I WILL BRING EVIL UPON THEM, which they shall not be able to escape; and though they shall cry unto me, I will not hearken unto them.
8) Jeremiah 11:17 - 17 For the Lord of hosts, that planted thee, HATH PRONOUNCED EVIL AGAINST THEE, for the evil of the house of Israel and of the house of Judah, which they have done against themselves to provoke me to anger in offering incense unto Baal.
9) Jeremiah 16:10-12 - 10 And it shall come to pass, when thou shalt shew this people all these words, and they shall say unto thee, WHEREFORE HATH THE LORD PRONOUNCED ALL THIS GREAT EVIL AGAINST US? OR WHAT IS OUR INIQUITY? OR WHAT IS OUR SIN THAT WE HAVE COMMITTED AGAINST THE LORD OUR GOD?
11 Then shalt thou say unto them, BECAUSE YOUR FATHERS HAVE FORSAKEN ME, saith the Lord, and HAVE WALKED AFTER OTHER GODS, AND HAVE SERVED THEM, AND HAVE WORSHIPED THEM, and have forsaken me, and have not kept my law;
12 And ye have done worse than your fathers; for, behold, ye walk every one after the imagination of his evil heart, that they may not hearken unto me:
10) Jeremiah 19:3-5 - 3 And say, Hear ye the word of the Lord, O kings of Judah, and inhabitants of Jerusalem; Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I WILL BRING EVIL UPON THIS PLACE the which whosoever heareth, his ears shall tingle.
4 Because they have forsaken me, and have estranged this place, and have burned incense in it unto other gods, whom neither they nor their fathers have known, nor the kings of Judah, and have filled this place with the blood of innocents;
5 They have built also the high places of Baal, to BURN THEIR SONS WITH FIRE for burnt offerings unto Baal, which I commanded not, nor spake it, neither came it into my mind:
11) Jeremiah 19:15 - 15 Thus saith the Lord of hosts, the God of Israel; Behold, I will bring upon this city and upon all her towns all the EVIL that I have pronounced against it, BECAUSE THEY HAVE HARDENED THEIR NECKS, that they might not hear my words.
12) Jeremiah 22:8-9 - 8 And many nations shall pass by this city, and they shall say every man to his neighbour, WHEREFORE HATH THE LORD DONE THUS UNTO THIS GREAT CITY? 9 Then they shall answer, BECAUSE THEY HAVE FORSAKEN THE COVENANT OF THE LORD THEIR GOD, AND WORSHIPED OTHER GODS, AND SERVED THEM.
It is important also to remember that there are many instances when "evil", "disaster", and "calamity" falls upon the righteous because of Satanic oppression and persecution. The example of Job falls in this category. Those instances are separate from the instances where God brings evil, disaster, and calamity.
1) God brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon the wicked because of their wickedness and evil. They get a taste of their own medicine. God also brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon the righteous when they go off the path and become unfaithful, disobedient, and do wicked acts. This is chastisement and a wake up call from God.
2) Satan brings evil, disaster, and calamity upon the righteous in an attempt to discourage, anger, frustrate, corrupt, and in an attempt to thwart when the righteous are living in holiness, obedience, and faithfulness. This has always been the motive of Satan on those who live righteously.
Scripture is clear that there is no evil or darkness at all in God - 1 John 1:5, James 1:13 nor does God tempt anyone with evil. The Bible is clear that evil came into existence when Lucifer fell and became Satan with his infamous 5 "I wills" declarations in Isaiah 14:12-15 and was self-generated due to his immense pride on account of his great beauty and status as an angel of God - Ezekiel 28:13-17. Yes, God allowed evil to come into existence, but it would be incorrect to assert that God "created" evil. To say that God "created" evil is to say that He is the author of evil thereby exonerating Satan.
Since God gave man free will to choose, God allowed evil to come into existence so that man has a choice to choose good or evil with it's accompanying consequences. Man has had free will since the Garden of Eden - Genesis 2:16-17. God is a God of love and because of His very nature and character, He gave man freewill to choose to accept or reject Him with it's accompanying consequences because man is not a mindless puppet on a string. God created the ABILITY/POTENTIAL for man to decide. This of course, is something that Calvinism denies incessantly.
wtom04 bruh
wtom04 Thank you
Michael
That’s the thing; we DO intend to sin. Sin is corruption. It is a falsity of what is good. It is to miss the mark. Original Sin (more accurately called Ancestral Sin) simply means that Adam and Eve made a choice to rebel against God, to seize autonomy and look inwards instead of outwards. Thus, since mankind is the very image of God, and made to be his representatives to creation, death and corruption were brought into the world through their actions, and the intentions of man’s heart became darkened. Often, even when we think we mean well, our intentions aren’t truly good. Due to the fallen state of the world and our subsequent inclination towards sin, we choose to mimic Adam’s sin (though not usually in the exact same way). And so all humanity is separated from God ontologically and spiritually due to sin and death. Christ dealt with both by trampling down the power of death by his own, and atoning for our sins by the shedding of his blood (his life).
The original text is actually "calamity" not moral evil. Big difference
The “KJV Only” crowd say the ESV is a “Devil’s Bible, but only the KJV says God creates evil, every other translation has it correct in translating the verse from Isaiah 45 as “calamity,” or “disaster.” The verse is as follows,
“I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.”
(Isaiah 45:7)
New question is what is "Evil"?
Evil is defined as that which does not reflect the character and nature of God.
Useless suffering
God is evil
Evil is the opposite of good , tasty sandwiches, evil sandwiches, a fine sunny day , fire and brimstone on Sodom, kiss for your mum, punch your mum in the face, quite simple really
You sir are very mistaken. God did create evil. He said so himself and reiterated “I the Lord do these things.”
So praise god for everything good and blame satan for all the bad, um who created the evil flawed satan , who will you blame for that error. These people will make up any answer to cover gods mistakes.
Firstly- its God, anything other is idolatry
Second- you do realize angels have free will just like us right? They are God's spiritual servant, they have choice and they were made perfect like adam and eve. You can see angels using their free will the turn away from God, as did Lucifer because he was power hungry. When you create free creatures you would know the outcome if they were to betray you. God knew this. Then you might ask, why did he create them in the first place? Well you can ask your parents the same question. Would you call your parents evil even though they conceived you and knew you would do bad? No, you are responsible for your own wrongdoings and instead of being humble and admitting to them. You turn to the creator and shake your fist at him.
@@attav8 wow😮😮😮 now this is the best comment😊 nice, that you compared God to parents.. Meaning when they created us.. And how we make our own decisions.
Comparing God to parents is Moronic!. Parents do not know for sure where you'd end up. They bring you to the world and HOPE for the best. GOD knows where you'd end up for SURE!. If our parents knew most wouldn't reproduce.
@@k9yeterectile633 lol next time tag me hun😐.. But i never compared God to parentS PLEASE LEARN TO READ.. I compared the teachings.. Imbecile..
JJ1X you will make any excuse for god so the excuse for drowning the whole world would be what? Aghh yes that would be our fault. Have you ever read the Old Testament, I have and it’s terrifying with the amount of deaths god orders even to kill every baby and animal in some verses. If you wasn’t told it was god doing the ordering to kill you certainly would think it was Satan. I think your just terrified to think anything other than what you think because you think you’ll burn in hell forever.
yea I mean something that I have always thought about is if God knows the beginning and the end. Then he knowingly created evil(Satan) even when he knew Lucifer would become evil so I mean how can you not say god lets evil happen when he is the source it all ties back to. It points to the idea that God never actually wanted a perfect world yet subjects humans to it?
@@thevulture5750 no
The LORD has made everything for its own purpose, Even the wicked for the day of evil.
If God knows everything (omniscient) then he knows everything he will ever do. This means he can never choose not to do something or choose to do something other than what he was always going to do. God by "virtue" of his omniscience, cannot be spontaneous and there goes his omnipotence. His characteristics as ascribed by humans are inherently contradictory.
But even if they were perfectly "balanced goal posts", one can never be omniscient because one can never know what he doesnt know he doesnt know, God or otherwise.
Does God have free will? Because if he does, he cant be omniscient as he could never change his mind and do something else, something spontaneous, since he already knows everything he will ever do, including whether he ever changed his mind or not, so he can never truly change his mind and do something new, new to himself that is. God can never surprise himself. If he is omniscient, he doesnt have free will. If he is omnipotent then he should be able to give himself free will, but then he cant be omniscient.
Moreover, if God is omniscient, he can never have a novel thought, a new idea, which invalidates the concept of creation. Any creative effort requires novelty, which is absent in the context of omniscience.
There are three domains of knowledge, things you know you know, things you know you dont know and things you dont know you dont know. And you can never know that you have exhausted the list of things that you dont know you dont know because by definition you dont know what you dont know you dont know. Omniscience is simply inherently incoherent on its own. And the situation is only getting worse when you pair it with other characteristics such as omnipotence. For one thing, you can never learn something new. And of course as already mentioned, you can never know what you dont know you dont know which instantly invalidates the concept of omniscience as well as omnipotence. If God could do anything, he could learn everything he doesnt know he doesnt know, but how would he know when he's finished? How would he know theres nothing left that he doesnt know he doesnt know?
Even if omniscience wasnt inherently illogical, God could still never know whats outside of God because it would be incompatible with omnipresence. And I would go one further and tell you that God cannot even know everything that is inside of God because one can never make completely valid observations regarding a system from inside the system. That is to say, you can never perfectly know the state of a system from within the system because you are making observations while being part of said system and the act of observing the system is affecting it so there will always be uncertainty regarding the observation/knowledge of the state of the system and there goes your omniscience again. Of course, unless God could extrapolate himself outside of the system which would place God outside of the system he is observing violating omnipresence. God cannot be omnipresent and omniscient because he can never know everything with precision about the state of the space he is occupying. The principle of uncertainty holds, God or not.
None of the characteristics ascribed to the Abrahamic God are internally coherent, individually or in concert.
And sending his son to die for our sins is in no shape or form a good thing, not at all. God could just forgive our sins without anyone being sacrificed, that would be an omnibenevolent and omnipotent God. Simple!
You do know jesus was created from a piece of God right? Cuz God is a spirit.. And you should be greatful😑 cuz if jesus never died for our sins.. We would have been slaves to lucifer.. Also how can he forgive sins when it's gonna be repeated over and over again? Its as if its not an apology but making fun of God.. Also i can tell u didnt read the bible.. Long ago Mankind started to go down the drain.. They took freewill and twisted it.. Men used women for babies.. It was men who destroyed the world.. So jesus was made to fix it.. .
Think about you..
Say you created man kind gave them free choices whether to follow you or not, they chose not to follow you and abused the free will..but you forgive them but they dont care about your forgiveness.. Would you want the world to suffer because of man kind?
As I read some of the comments, many say that God creates sin, sinner, evil and everything. According to my theodicy, God doesn't create evil, therefore, God is not evil. Evil is not a create things; it is nothingness. Evil is negation and corruption from good.
god moved on an left this experiment long ago...and he closed the door to heaven for all mankind...
Regarding your closing statement- How does sending his son to die on the cross prove that God didn't create evil? You haven't answered the question at all.
God is not all loving at all he created Satan he created evil he not unconditional love.
They chose to rebel against him
Is it fair to punish eternally one human being that only lived for 70-80 years?
good question. i dont think its fair
Who defines "fair"?
Yup. Straight from the horses mouth:
Isaiah 45:7King James Version (KJV)
"I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things."
Read the other translations they don’t say evil
@@the_player_xd_1520 what other translations
tommy check any other translation check for yourself
@@the_player_xd_1520 still dont change the fact God created evil
tommy in other translations it says he creates disaster or calamity which is different
Stopped listening when he asked if God creates sin. That isn't the question being asked. The question is "does God create evil?" - God created everything, including evil. Evil didn't come into existence on its own, no more than the universe came into existence on its own.
Why worship a God who is the author of evil?
I agree i can not live in willfully ignorance like atheist whom believes that nuclear bombs had no developers 🤔yet they do believe they exist, yet they can only point at religions hypocrisy😕 next time you talk to one just ignore them in fact everybody should so that eventually they tire of there willful ignorance and fish for attention like the lil whores they are furthermore 1 would have to commit an act of hypocrisy to know what it is, same goes for (SIN) of course. Why deny the only indulgence one has or a childish being its toy blocks?😑👏let them play
Thats not how it works
God ordained all this mess
What does that supposed to mean?
If God created everything it is straight forward logic that he created good and evil along with the powers that do good and the powers that do evil and He knew what was coming. You cannot dance around that however many words you use.
Isiah 45:7 lol your book says that god created evil.
There are two key facts that need to be considered. (1) The word translated “evil” is from a Hebrew word that means “adversity, affliction, calamity, distress, misery.” Notice how the other major English Bible translations render the word: “disaster” (NIV, HCSB), “calamity” (NKJV, NAS, ESV), and “woe” (NRSV). The Hebrew word can refer to moral evil, and often does have this meaning in the Hebrew Scriptures. However, due to the diversity of possible definitions, it is unwise to assume that “I create evil” in Isaiah 45:7 refers to God bringing moral evil into existence.
@@MiamiDrake145 Lay off them drugs mate: the Hebrew word ra is the same word used for the tree of the knowledge of good and evil , comprehendo, trying to baffle us with bull. For your sake look up calamity in the dictionary and you will find the word evil used to describe it along with affliction, misery , disaster etc which are all evil things you ninny. Stop sneaking that wine home from church with your drinking buddies it's making you silly.
@@nevbillett7554 bull shit do you have a dictionary
@@nevbillett7554 evil existed before us it's simply the act of not being perfect
@@MiamiDrake145 have another swig of whatever your drunk on
No real substance in the argument. What about Isaiah 45:7?
Exaclty. Probably just easier for them to avoid this one. The answer I get is that "evil" means "calamity" here, but to me it's not much better, and in the KJV the translation is indeed "evil" rather than calamity. So it's still a theological problem, or, AT BEST, bad translating.
In God almigthy I trust, in the name and by the blood of Jesus Christ: amen!
Isaiah 47:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace and create EVIL: I the LORD do all these things.
God hates evil but he still allows it to exist evil is a created thing and god created everything so he still is responsible for everything in of story
Perfectly good... how many people has he killed... He created evil. The tree of knowledge of good and evil. There I answered it because you didn’t.
Woah there hold urr horneyesses Created it sure, yet he forced no one to (partake) their smart guy in fact he warned against it but then u do hafta wonder why even warn? Why create the possibility of such a miserable thing as pain suffering or death sumthin apparently woman never second guess when filled to the brim with Godly love? Maybe creating choice in order to creating any free will whatsoever?😕even though that itself is a hole nother can o worms
Kuss in my opinion if free will existed we would all be issued infinity gauntlets that never needed batteries
We are created in his own image according to the bible. We also are creators. We can create evil in this world and we can also create good. Money is spent creating weapons instead of using it to help people. We create wars-- atomic bomb others and bring forth misery. Corporations use slave labor for profit, etc, etc---This is what it means but God does not do evil although I suppose he could,
I haven't watched the video but how can God create evil if He is good? That doesn't make sense because that would either make God foolish or this statement is just plain stupid...
GOD did not create evil but when He created beings He gave them conscious freedom... and conscious freedom was given out of love. And from there we create/choose our own destiny with what God has already given us...
Nailed it, yes he created free moral agents. They rebelled willfully and we are waiting for his kingdom to undo the damage.
It should be a one second video this. Yes.
in my perspective i see it as this: God, being omnipotent, omniscient, and omnipresent, HAS to be evil AS WELL AS GOOD. he is all things that you can think of and he is more. to understand God, that is impossible, the idea that he is innately a "good" force i think is somewhat missleading (with 'good' being almost entirely subjective beyond the framework of objective morality, which is a chicken/egg discussion until we nail down good and evil first, would be pointless to talk about)
due to the fact that he is both good and evil, he is both and neither at the same time, he is more than the diachotomy... he IS the diachotomy.
Evil is not created. It is a form of expression that comes out of free will i.e. the innate
ability to make choices that either align with our Creator's will or emanate from selfish desires that stand in opposition to God's will. That was the sin of Lucifer and also our first parents.
If that's the case then good wasn't a creation either
Isaiah 45:7 (KJV) I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the LORD do all these things.
"Evil" is the outworking of distortions of reality which man has the power to create in his mind and it be revealed in his life. Conversely, man has the power to maintain reality in his mind and it be revealed in Love.
I got a series problem how this guy defines omnipotence.
Because if omnipotence as in all powerful just means can do anything in ones nature than everything is omnipotent.
Because everything does what is with in their nature.
I have a question, if God didn't create evil than why does Isaiah 45:7 say otherwise
Isaiah 45:7 I form the light, and create darkness: I make peace, and create evil: I the Lord do all these things.