Our Customer Decided On A Fix For The 172 Ford Block!
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- Опубликовано: 1 апр 2023
- This video is a quick follow up to last week's video which you can find here:
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There is often more than one way to fix a problem, and you have to take into consideration the budget, application, and the end goal. In this case, this is what we decided for this 172 Ford!
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Make this engine a series please! These 2 videos reminded me what it was like when I was rebuilding engines in the truck shop I started at in 1972. Some of us OldGoats need to be reminded of simpler times.
My wife makes the stones for your sunnen machine
That's awsome man tell her thank you for her service to the industry.
Ill be buying a sunnen horizontal hone within a year or so. I guess your wife will have another customer soon!
@@northernmetalworker thanks for the support ! She’s been with Sunnen for almost 15 years. , they keep her pretty busy but new customers are always welcome !
@@eric63377 they just made a deal with Rousch racing as the only machine in their shop !
@@dwightwaldvogel2783 as it should be!
Good to see a shop with conscientious people. Not just trying to get it out the door!
You guys always reinforce - There is no substitute for excellent machine work; and an excellent machinst(s). Thanks for your time on this guys!
Beautiful work as always, very impressive. Look forward to seeing the new pistons being fitted. Or rather, the bores being sized for the new pistons.
Hope to see a part 3. Keep up the awesome work!
Makes me think of all the days I spent in my college automotive machine shop blueprinting my Mopar 360/408 stroker motor. Glad to see there are machine shops out there taking the time to do a fantastic job for their customers. Looking forward to the next video.
When drilling out an existing hole always use a 4 or more flute tool like a core drill because it will follow the existing hole a 2 flute can wander because its point is not in the material keeping it centered. Don’t matter how good and tight spindle is. I’m a retired toolmaker.
I’ll keep that in mind, although I can’t say I have had issues with these wandering any 😊
When you're removing little more than threads there's an almost zero chance of wander, especially in a fixed setup.
Ryno, otherwise your advice would be saying every machinist who predrills something like a 1/4" starter to avoid the web of a 1-1/2" twist drill is risking "wandering".
Right on
That's fun watching you guys rebuilding tractor motors and learn your tricks around some tricky spots
Pressing the sleeves leaves them with compressive residual stress in the stroke direction of the sleeve from the pressing, along with compressive hoop stress, while shrinking them with a liquid nitrogen will end up with compressive hoop stress only. So there is a difference, I just don't know if it matters much.
Probably not much. The compressive hoop stress is far greater and beneficial for the overall strength of the sleeve. I believe this is for a low RPM motor so it probably will not effect anything in a noticeable way.
It won’t matter on this particular engine.
Now I am hoping for a part three.
Love your vids, retired machinist, and old car guy.And did lead work on cars
You have a very interesting site and you both obviously care about the quality that you give to your customers.
I absolutely love your videos! I'd love to just hang out and watch these operations being done in person. Fascinating! Nice work!
Thank you for this update! It might be a shorter video, but it's a good one and I appreciate it. I think going for oversized pistons is a good compromise here, and I hope you're pleased with the end result
outstanding work on that engine block and especially with getting the cylinders as straight as possible
much love and respect from a ‘Shadetree Mechanic’
Love seeing things like this and getting to understand how things go from broken to fixed . Always great when people explain the process from start to finish . Great work . Looking forward to seeing the next 1 .
Thanks for the update, and great work! It's good to see guys take the time to do a thorough job and use the right tools for it.
As always, the quality of your work, and the care you take doing it are quite impressive and inspiring
Love the follow-up.
Seems like a reasonable compromise to cost and for what the engine is it will likely last for years and years.
Good call on the customer's part. Keep the cost down, yet get a good result.
I believe you guys do awesome work. The step by step process is so nice to see! Keep the good work going!
The attention to detail is great. You guys to phenomenal work. Wished I lived closer so I could bring some work to you
Absolutely precision work gentlemen,good to see precision workmanship wish you were here in downunder land
What a beautifully proper fix assisted by the customer, I love it.
It is a pleasure to watch you guys work.
The specialty machines (and their level of sophistication & accuracy) are amazing! At one time I was rather liberal in calling an operation or it's operator "fussy"; after getting hooked on your channel it turns out that I owe a whole bunch of people apologies. Thanks for the infotainment!😊
@Petty fogger This is some of the best Infotainment out there. Gives @This Old Tony a run for his money !
@@lannywestgard6131 ToT is still the best as far as editing goes
HUGE THANKS for a wrap-up video. 😉
Glad to see caring machinists again. Yah, it's been a REALLY LOOooong time.
Really interesting update. Hope to see the rest of this Ford 172 project.
You do a hell of a job with machining and with spitting on video about the precision game. Keep kicking ass and taking names. Thank you for the spectacular quality and entertainment
Cool to see the options laid out then executed to the best of your abilities
It is difficult to always be perfect but when can surely try. Great job guys and pup
Love the DETAIL Great Work
I'm excited to see it finished out.
Very Nice. Reminds of the engine rebuild class I took 4 times in College. I had some projects 😀
I would love to see a part 3 if you do any more work to this engine. Thanks for putting out these videos.
Appreciate your attention to detail. Machining seems to be a lost art. There used to be machine shops in every town. Thanks for the videos.
Awesome video, thanks for keeping us in the loop on that engine
Brilliant - educating and entertaining ---------- old git, UK
Great! thanks for the update.
Excellent work and video.
Nice work! As always.
Thanks, enjoyed the thorough explanation.
you guys do such magnificent work!!!! Shame you are so far away. Of course, I say the same thing about Richard Crich about my 4L60E I need to rebuild.
👏🏽👏🏽 Awsome work young Man.
Love the content ! sorry it took me 6 days to watch the video. Weather warmed up days got busy ! but looked forward all week to this video after seeing the thumb on monday !
Beautiful!
Its great to see true professionals doing a great job. I would never be able to maintain these tight tolerances. No matter what your standards are, it is light years ahead of how that engine was when it showed up in your shop.
Nice job guys!!
Machining is so satisfying to see.
always like seeing you guys and Steve Morris Engines videos, would love to see some kind of collab, race engine builder and the similarities with machining repair.
As always great work and video.
You guy do great work!
Yup, keep 'em coming.
My experience with with thread repair taught me that while helicoils work well they do not stand up as well to repeated tighten loosen cycles as the threaded inserts you used. We used many thread repair inserts on the knife heads of sawmill equipment. The bolts were tightened and loosed at least once a day as the knives were changed out. Helicoils did not stand up well to that use.
Very nice, I hope we get to see the finished, painted engine when shes all done.
great stuff guys!
The honing machine is awesome!
Very impressive brother!
Always interesting. Thanks for updating. Do you have people bring their equipment by that’s been operating for a decade or more since you’ve worked their issues? That would make great content, customers showing their appreciation by bringing your hard work back to show off what taking care of something means to them and you and viewers.
Great video as always!
Nice machine work.
Great edit.
Beautiful work
Thank you very much!
At least your customer is reasonable and understands you are trying to fix what the previous shop messed up.
Please continue to make videos about this engine build I am very interested in the whole process
Thank you
Can’t wait for part 3
She's going to last a very long time if the owner takes care of her. So well machined. Critical part is setting the rings up too.
Nice work
🫨That drill bit set giggled my jibblets😂
Cool fix!
Beautiful work, as usual, gentlemen. Wish you guys were local to me as I'd happily send my machine work to you. My local shops seem to do sloppy work in comparison to you guys on everything I send to them.. 😵💫
Nice job!
WOW freaking cool
As always, loved your video. Your great videography and narration are much appreciated by this “shade-tree” mechanic who’s always been curious about what gets done to heads and blocks when they’re sent “out” for work.
Question: Who are those short-haircut youngsters that are always showing up in you “outro”? 😊
Good job
Thank you for your knowledge and video's USA 🇺🇸 USA 🇺🇸
Plugging the hole is the gold standard but those Kienserts are good too.
Do you have a lathe that you could make your own sleeves on. That would be a good solution for a lot of your odd ball engines.
Great job 👍🏻🇦🇺
Great video
We will be waiting on part 3
Keep up the good work love the video’s your dads hair is hilarious
Agreed, and at least he still has a full head of hair, many small business owners or farmers do not. But a small business owner and a farmer.........it is a wonder he still has his sanity these days.
I take exception to the term 'hilarious', friend. As a cue ball myself, I worship Dad's ability to grow and keep his hair; I personally would have torn mine out in frustration and stress if I was doing their brand of micro surgery promptly and dependably with their degree of accuracy. Be nice to Jim's hair, Dude; if it was an animal it would be on the Endangered List.
lots of people say liquids wont compress. but its simply not true. there are even tables about compressibility of different liquids. some things hydro lock because the liquid compresses initially then presses back.
thanks for the content.. its just one frustration when engineers say this but know its not actually true.
I really like your videos !
There is not a metal shop in the world that doesnt have that harbor freight drill set! They may not be the best but man have they come in handy for me
These are actually from www.kbctools.com 😎 I like them!
That was a rough fix to my curiosity. I need a fine fix. More content.
Will try for a longer video next week but I needed a break this week lol
@@JAMSIONLINE In this age of increasing indolence and the marked decline in anything resembling personal pride and ownership of the job accomplished, you guys deserve to take a month off!
You could take a trip to Switzerland to help them reimage the glory days of Swiss watchmaking when timepieces marked "Swiss made" were the benchmark of sterling attention to detail-even the ones your average Joe could afford.
thats one of the honing machines i used. started on the horizontal machines lol
Awesome
I'm just curious about cost of a fully built short block VS all the machining ? Is it because this engine is from the fifties that there is no replacement. Love watching.
I love these videos, I have an honest question about why some people use an imitation cylinder head when resizing the bore and in this application it’s not been used? When the heads refitted will the bore still retain its roundness? Top work fella’s 👌🏼👌🏼
I notice the first replacement sleeves are rough. That is because they are rough repair sleeves meant to be finished in place.
Dry sleeves will distort during installation, depending on the condition of the block and how they are installed.
I have a question, why when you are boring a bank of cylinders why do you start with one of the middle holes vs the end holes? Been wondering that for a while
Generally the main bore webbing in the block is closer to the bottom of the bores in the middle than on the end;
If you start on the end cylinder, you may think you have your z-axis stop set in the right spot, but then you move over to the next cylinder where there is more webbing and crash the machine.
So we start where the webbing is closer & then don’t have to worry about crashing lol
@@JAMSIONLINE makes sense thank for responding. Love the vids
Thanks for the comment and for watching 👌
I would send theese guys any block or heads i ever need done they are great at what they do
Nice
I am so glad that the customer decided to do it right. I don't care if it is a low RPM engine: and Anton can be put under heavy load at low RPMs if it's pulling heavy equipment tearing up the ground like a plow or a discus. Having egg-shaped oars is just not the way to rebuild a block.
Hey love your vids. You and your pops are a dream team from here. When a con rod gets bent from water like that is there any chance of crank damage?
Please don’t let the machinist’s level have one side not land on the flat surface. They are bellied. I know that’s it’s good enough for thread inserts. But if it’s anything critical, it won’t be exactly level, the starting point of exactly plumb.
I adore this channel btw! Love it so very much. 10/10 would recommend.
Every machinists or precision level I've ever used/inspected/calibrated that has a full length bottom and not feet is flat not bellied..
I wish I had the knowhow to keep up with block measurements, 2 years of automotive technology and we didn't get anywhere near this precise.