Actually at 15A and 110V you should get 1.65kW (AxV=W). But if you have a 16A EV Charger, with a NEMA 5-15 plug, you will not get 1.65 kW, you will only get 1.3 kW. Why? Because a NEMA 5-15 plug is only able to draw 15A and your EV charger will automatically go to its next lower level, which is usually 12A or lower (12Ax110V= 1.3kW). Therefore if you are using a NEMA 15 plug don't buy a 16A charger, get a 15A charger and get 1.65 kW not 1.3... or less.
I just didn't want to deal with the slow charging speeds. Before I bought my 2018 Honda Clarity, I had an electrician install a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Fortunately, my breaker box is in the garage, and I only needed the outlet a few feet away. Cost me $250 to have it installed. Bought a 16amp Level 2 evse off Amazon for $200. For less than $500, I can usually pick up a full charge (17kW battery) in around 2-3 hours. The evse that came with my Honda is also 120-240v compatible, so with a simple adapter it will run on 240v as well. It's the same evse provided with the Toyota Prius Prime and Toyota bz4x, made by Panasonic.
The two 120 plugs you show in the first image is NOT a 15 amp plug. It a nema 5-20, 20 amp plug as you can see it had the two stright blades and a horizontal blade. That means it should have 12 gage wire and a 20 amp breaker!
Yep. The vast majority of people won’t actually *need* more than a standard wall outlet. That said, if you can manage it, a 240V outlet is preferred. Personally, since I can afford it, I’m going whole hog and getting a panel update (needed anyway, since I have a *full* split-panel setup from the 80s) and a 240V/60A hardwired connection to go with my PHEV, since my wife’s next car will almost certainly be electric. I’ll be able to provide 11kWh of charging capacity for whatever vehicle we end ip with in the future, even though my current car tops out at 3.3kW for it’s comparatively tiny battery.
We use a 240 volt, 50 amp circuit with a Grizzl-E two car charger to charge Tesla and Lighting overnight. They both get some power until one is charged, then the remainder gets most of the power until it is charged. Beats getting up in the middle of the night to swap plugs.
I have had my Tesla MS for 2 years and honestly I regret spending $1.5k on the L2 at home. It is not about the $1.5k since I already paid $95k+ in cash for the MS. My commute is only 40 miles per day and rarely use the MS on weekends. My wife’s Lexus Hybrid SUV get that duty since iPad don’t have to worry about looking for charging on the road.
A circuit with a 20 amp breaker should support 16 amps of charging. Per the National Electric Code you are allowed to draw 80% of the breaker amperage.
Actually at 15A and 110V you should get 1.65kW (AxV=W). But if you have a 16A EV Charger, with a NEMA 5-15 plug, you will not get 1.65 kW, you will only get 1.3 kW. Why? Because a NEMA 5-15 plug is only able to draw 15A and your EV charger will automatically go to its next lower level, which is usually 12A or lower (12Ax110V= 1.3kW). Therefore if you are using a NEMA 15 plug don't buy a 16A charger, get a 15A charger and get 1.65 kW not 1.3... or less.
I just didn't want to deal with the slow charging speeds. Before I bought my 2018 Honda Clarity, I had an electrician install a NEMA 14-50 outlet in my garage. Fortunately, my breaker box is in the garage, and I only needed the outlet a few feet away. Cost me $250 to have it installed. Bought a 16amp Level 2 evse off Amazon for $200. For less than $500, I can usually pick up a full charge (17kW battery) in around 2-3 hours. The evse that came with my Honda is also 120-240v compatible, so with a simple adapter it will run on 240v as well. It's the same evse provided with the Toyota Prius Prime and Toyota bz4x, made by Panasonic.
The two 120 plugs you show in the first image is NOT a 15 amp plug. It a nema 5-20, 20 amp plug as you can see it had the two stright blades and a horizontal blade.
That means it should have 12 gage wire and a 20 amp breaker!
You are correct about the first image.
Yep. The vast majority of people won’t actually *need* more than a standard wall outlet.
That said, if you can manage it, a 240V outlet is preferred.
Personally, since I can afford it, I’m going whole hog and getting a panel update (needed anyway, since I have a *full* split-panel setup from the 80s) and a 240V/60A hardwired connection to go with my PHEV, since my wife’s next car will almost certainly be electric. I’ll be able to provide 11kWh of charging capacity for whatever vehicle we end ip with in the future, even though my current car tops out at 3.3kW for it’s comparatively tiny battery.
We use a 240 volt, 50 amp circuit with a Grizzl-E two car charger to charge Tesla and Lighting overnight. They both get some power until one is charged, then the remainder gets most of the power until it is charged. Beats getting up in the middle of the night to swap plugs.
I have had my Tesla MS for 2 years and honestly I regret spending $1.5k on the L2 at home. It is not about the $1.5k since I already paid $95k+ in cash for the MS. My commute is only 40 miles per day and rarely use the MS on weekends. My wife’s Lexus Hybrid SUV get that duty since iPad don’t have to worry about looking for charging on the road.
I drive less than 10 miles per day. Some days don’t drive my call at all. 15 amp charger is fine for me.
It's a great information! Thank you for sharing!
My Bolt can charge at 8amps or 12amps. Should a circuit with a 20amp breaker handle 12amps?
A circuit with a 20 amp breaker should support 16 amps of charging. Per the National Electric Code you are allowed to draw 80% of the breaker amperage.
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Is that an outlet in the sink?
I'm afraid it is.
I'm assuming it's a photoshop joke.
Are you a Tesla hater? Why are you always knocking Tesla? I don't think it's needed to knock any brand.
I am very happy with my Tesla so I do not know why you think I am knocking them.
Perhaps because Elon Musk is a jackass?