there are many translation in English. But a lot of em are y'know ,shit. Some of em said the Billy Bragg version is the best ,so i think you should check that one out.
+ha J well Dem-soc are not too good either... i think you should read the communist manifesto ,and compares it to your Dem-soc knowledge. or just ask those maoist guys who carry gun to Faschist rally lol. The thing is dude... democracy under capitalism is not a true democracy. The leader nomination have been picked by the bourg... and the outcome of the vote can be easily change by using certain amount of money. well... just compare the manifesto to your knowledge lol. oh yeah and good luck with Trumps victory... i recommend you to join the local ANTIFA to fight the Neo-Nazi ,but yeah your choice...
The original French lyrics were written in the same poetic meter and verse structure as La Marseillaise and Poittier intended it to be sung to that melody since everyone knew it. However, this ended up causing confusion among the audiences at labor rallies since they would end up singing the words they knew instead of the ones by Poittier. The tune by De Geyter we know it by was composed nearly two decades later and was largely responsible for the song's enduring popularity in the labor movement. (Don't even get me started on what it morphed into in Russia and other places!). The first English translation was likely penned by Eleanor Marx (Karl's daughter) when they were living in London. I am a big fan of Billy Bragg's new English version that was written at the behest of Pete Seeger at the Vancouver Folk Music Festival within days of the Tiananmen Square incident in 1989.
I admit I'm a bit harsh with Lenin. He did great things (Fighting the Tsars and capitalism, allowing homosexuality, giving rights to women, ...), as he did the worst (The Red Terror). It's true I shoul not have listed him with people who really have f*cked their country.
I promise you comrades that one day you'll sing this in front of your White House! We have nothing to lose but our chains! We have a world to win! 99% unite! Long live the communist revolution!
Raul Castro lands in Miami Florida and Pauline Maurois liberates Québec from Stephen Harper and invades Chicago and Buffalo. They meet in Ohio and March on Washington D.C. to install Barak Obama as military governor of a New World order in the New World!
Daniel The Greaser not just the white house. Outside of the kremlin, outside of the french parliament, outside of the buckingham palace, outside of the tokio imperial palace, in every street, in every city, in the whole world! Glory to the global revolution!
Rouzbeh Modarresi Hell, even Social Democrats can sometimes use the Internationale. Some small bits of the Canadian NDP, the German SPD (in some occasions), and the old versions of the Labour Party in Britain.
to be fair Social Democratic parties led the struggle for 60some years before the revolutionary parties emerged - modern Parliamentary Socialism may not be what it once was but in remembrance of the "old days" those that believe SDtism should hope to achieve socialism should sing it.
@Patchman123 Just because communists and reactionaries criticize Islam doesn't mean they do so because of a similar motivation, for a similar reason, and/or with similar means. An Anarchist and a Nazi would both describe themselves as "anticapitalists" : the first because he opposes market society, private property, wage slavery, hierarchical organizations, etc ; the later because he wants to fight an alleged jewish control over finance seen as a threat to national unity.
Crimes perpetrated for Capitalism will haunt you forever. Communism isnt inherently evil. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
@CapitalistOverlord The original French words were written in June 1871 by Eugène Pottier (1816-1887, previously a member of the Paris Commune)[1] and were originally intended to be sung to the tune of La Marseillaise - Sincerely, Wikipedia Article: The internationale
Greetings comrades, greeting from cradle of communism - former part of Soviet Union, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic. Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!
@xCreScenDo I honestly don't know if it's possible at all, or what the repercussions would be if it was, but if every individual was aware of every other individual's thoughts and emotions as though they were their own, it would theoretically render it impossible to sate the baser desires through inflicting adversity on others since the individual that does so would also feel the negative consequences as if they applied to them.
Like the commentary. But, speaking as a devout atheist-anarchist , I must yet point out that the 'communists' (allowing for individual cases of bastardry) did, in reality, immeasurably improve the lives of the bulk of their people. I cite, in particular, Russia, China, Cuba and Vietnam and 'Yugoslavia. (That a Croation communist could become a most-loved leader of the Serbs ~ from which I'm extracted ~ speaks volumes.) (Remember when your mother would exhort you to think of the poor starving children in China?) And without Stalin we'd all be talking nazi doctrine these days......... hmm. Come to think of it.........
Dude as a french communist party member I know the history of this song by heart and sing it with my comrades at every occasion. Interesing I didn't know about the two versions, but I can tell that all european countries have two main leftist ideologies (international socialist, international communist) comparable to the one you sited.
@xxwzaebd : Try reading Farenheit 451 (even if I'm not sure you'll be able to fully understand the critism behind the book) before saying : Let's burn a book.
@MyVacillation I do know what War Communism and the NEP were about. This isn't the problem. Kronstadt mutineers wanted Communism in its true form, that's why the Bolsheviks crushed them. Actually, how Lenin dealt with the mutiny isn't even the issue ; the problem is that he did deal with it. And both the Red Army and the Cheka were used : The first for food shortage, population containment and direct repression, and the later for carrying out arrests, torture and executions.
Yeah...the National Security Law banned communist activities ('collaboration with enemy') so there have been no single party in SK since 1949.(But NK has come up with their own Juche shit and some of SK leftists are just NK wannabes...)
L'internationale is not (only) a communist song, this is the song for all oppressed and exploited people, and for socialism. It is the song for all of those who fight/fought capitalism.
@Patchman123 And where did I say that I "liked" Islam ? I AM an atheist, I oppose religion, ALL religions, because I oppose the dynamics of domination it implies. It is just obvious, seeing your channel, that your opposition to Islam has nothing to do with mine, or that of Communism in general.
Though you're (in my opinion) completely wrong with lenin, stalin and Mao's political ideology, I appreciate that you have Rosa Luxemburg on the front cover, she's often forgotten and it's a shame cos she was awesome...
True, Comrade. I am aware that France was the original country that used this. But Russia, however, was the only country to have this as an official national anthem, as opposed to a party-only anthem like most communist/socialist countries did.
yes it is true. the song was first made in french, then translated into most common languages. Although most people agree the french version is the best.
Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Rosa Luxemburg. Finally a picture with persons that fit each other! Without any Stalin or Lenin. Thank you a lot comrade!!!
I cannot say mao, stalin, and lenin are not communists, but I can say that I, and many other socialist/communists completely dissagree with those monsters.
What? It was under Stalin that gulag prisoners were being used more for labour than murdered; under Lenin it was pure mass murder and revolutionary terror. Lenin just didn't seem to participate in that personally. Look up Dzierzynski and Cheka
If Lenin is a "monster" any political figure in recent Western capitalist history is a monster of the greatest proportions. Churchill massacred 2 million in Bengal which no one gives a shit about but Lenin is the monster because he took initial radical action against organizing royalist opposition/conspiring kulaks? Don't listen to capitalist propaganda comrade, every nation has something to be ashamed of if you are playing that game. And I'm saying this as someone whose ideology is definitely very anti-Maoist and usually anti-Stalinist.
Well, dear dcbandnerd, I have lived in Communism and unlike you, I know what it is like to live a Communistic oppression. Without a doubt, Communism has proved to be the worst kind of dicatorship and oppression there had ever been invented throughout the human history. The song of the Internationale may sound great and revolutionary but, in reality, it is a song of an ideology which produced far the greatest bloodshed, terror and massmurder in history. Innocent people were tortured and killed in communistic prisons the conditions of which you cannot even imagine in your worst nightmares. Communism is estimated to have murdered near a billion people worldwide throughout its bloody seventy years of accursed history. So this song, dear dcbandnerd, is the song of the devil, the song of a psychopathic ideology whose only goal is to shed as much blood of humans as possible.
@@inandio I don't think this is in question. This is a song of hope first and foremost. It's been twisted many times indeed, but you should take what you need from things. I can understand you wouldn't want to hear the tune again. Quite frankly in your position, I'd probably feel the same way. I ain't even communist or leftist. I ain't even a person of political conviction. But the message the lyrics convey is one that I find strength in singing. In the end it's up to you what you see in it.
@@inandio I know this is late but holy shit you managed to surpass the "Big Black Book of Communism" which was literally a right-wing propaganda book in communist kill counts
Communism is founder mentally democratic, free, and God believing. Throughout the comment section, there isn't a single reason minded, left wing and revolutionary comment. All of which are just people who are discontented with their lives and expressing and distorting my communism.
The original French version of this song is quite good, I will admit. However, it seems like the Russian version of "The Internationale" is still one of the better sung versions of this, after all, it WAS their anthem during the Lenin and early Stalin eras.
@xCreScenDo He was wrong about that actually, communism is a state of peaceful anarchy, the very concept of government is anathema to it. Whether or not he was motivated by greed or sought to change human nature, I can't say. The latter is required for communism to work, and it won't come about through political change. The only possibilities for that kind of change are all technological in nature. If you want me to elaborate on that though, just let me know.
well I am happy they listen to it, but how comes they don't have a revolution? this song inspired the greatest revolutions of the 19th and 20th century and it is even linked directly to the french revolution
no i mean the idea that we as a human population in a certain area (earth as a whole or a specific region) need (no alternative) the construct of a state/ government (with some form of representation, either a parliament or a single person or etc) to live in an organized and more or less harmonious way...and i simply reject that statement
@iwanttobelieve : Thanks it's nice to see that some people are able to make the difference between the idealism and what has been named as "communism".
The very word "communism" comes originally from the Paris Commune of 1871, which predates Marx. It's really a French idea to begin with, and it was theorized by Marx, Engels,... As for Hegel, I'm not sure his ideas influenced the Paris Commune.
I don't think you can consider Lenin as a "fake communist", Stalin and Mao certainly, but Lenin along with his second man Trotsky were very much civil libertarians and Economic communists.
@MyVacillation The spark which lit up the thruth ? More like the spark the Bolsheviks suppressed so that the thruth wouldn't go "boom" in their face. And just because "other countries" (You mean, capitalist countries ?) would have reacted in the same way doesn't make the repression legitimate in any way ; actually, it would even prove bourgeois democracy and soviet republic had something in common. And they do : Neither tolerates individual indepedence.
Thanks for your comment, so that I could be informed of ... RUclips's measures. Just WHAT THE FUCK is this about ? How can the Internationale be deleted for COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT ?! This is pure non-sense. Who the hell do they think they are ? Well, there is one sure thing : I'm not letting this happen.
Ahh, okay. I've heard the term Red Terror more frequently applied to Stalin's Terror than to the Russian Civil War. In this case, it peaked more than ten years after Lenin died.
thank your for this...and i am amazed at your discription, because i cldnt agree more...i am so tired of people thinking of communism when they mean left wing militaristic dictatorships....makes a debate almost impossible because i have to start at scratch with defining things first
@xCreScenDo These instincts are what allow adaptation to hostile environmemnts. Humans however, are capable of adapting hostile environments to suit their needs. This isn't really a phenomenon unique to humans, but no other known species has done it to such a degree as humanity has. This in turn has resulted in our baser instincts becoming more and more detrimental to our interests, to the point that humanity has long since supplanted nature as its worst enemy.
Trotsky was better than both--but most people don't understand that Stalin WASN'T popular, or even supposed to be in charge. He inherited the position of one of the secret power brokers and was a paranoid creep. Lenin was just really nice on posters and modernist statues... He lead too, but that's a god reason as well.
the word had no political definition back then. It was a simple synonym for grouping, together... etc. The political definition only came with the Paris comune. You are right for the communist manifesto, but it didn't had that much of an impact on society at the time it was published. The movement came afterwards.
I don't think so. At first yes. But later when he built up his state capitalism, he exploited workers and farmers, and he also smashed the machnowtchina.
To uploader: First of all, the Russian lyrics denounce war much more than the French version (due to the fact that WWI led to wide Bolshevik support) Secondly, Marx encouraged the workers revolting and dethroning their leaders which is the only violence that BOTH versions suggest Thirdly, both versions are largely the same. There's no underlying violent message Fourthly, don't give people ideas about Lenin, Stalin and Mao. It'd be better for them to make their own judgements
I'm not communist,so I don't know everything about this ideology,so can someone please explain me what is the difference between a leninist and a trotskist? (sorry if my english is bad)
+John Smith The main distinction is Trotskyism/Marxism (state economy but personal freedom) and Stalinism (state economy and tyranny/no personal freedom). Lenin's rule was somewhere inbetween.
+John Smith That is a bit of a difficult question to answer concisely; a lot of what people call "Leninism" or "Marxism-Leninism" is in reality Stalinism, a very different beast all together. Lenin and Trotsky were comrades, and though they disagreed with each other at different times in the history of the Bolsheviki, they came to see many crucial questions in the same way. When Stalin seized power of the Bolshevik party, with the help of the discontented remnants of the bourgeoisie, he threw away some key, central aspects of Communism and Bolshevism; Trotsky, like Lenin, understood that the Russian Revolution's gains could only be safeguarded by expanding the revolution internationally. This is summed up in Trotsky's theory of Permanent Revolution. Communism had always been, first and foremost, an *international* and *working class* movement. Under Stalin, "Socialism in One Country" was advanced to appease the capitalist powers and to guarantee some wiggle room for the bourgeoisie in order for it to retain its economic privileges. Under Stalinism, Communism was conflated with nationalization, expropriation, and collectivization. While those are aspects of Communism, if they are not accomplished by the working class for its own benefit, they are not truly representative of a communist society. Those things become gains for the state apparatus and the bureaucracy (the new bourgeoisie) and are safeguarded by brutal repression--as evidenced by the fact that Stalin had almost every single one of the Old Bolsheviks from the Revolution killed or "disappeared."
@ShayCarlFan1000 Lenin (And Trotsky) are directly and indirectly reponsible for numerous abuses, including the repression of the Kronstadt Uprising and the Red Terror.
he moral justification of capitalism does not lie in the altruist claim that it represents the best way to achieve “the common good.” It is true that capitalism does-if that catch-phrase has any meaning-but this is merely a secondary consequence. The moral justification of capitalism lies in the fact that it is the only system consonant with man’s rational nature, that it protects man’s survival qua man, and that its ruling principle is: justice
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Got a "start your career in finance" ad before this video lol
Workers of the world, unite!
Greeting from China!
All the humanity, unite!
All sentient beings, unite! please
Karl Marx Excuse me, comrade. What's your thought? I'm a Council Communist.
Erwin Rommel looks at haiti, the dominican republic, colombia, congo, uganda, india, iraq, syria, russia, ethiopia, eretria, digibouti, somaliland and countless others
it doesn't matte what mood I'm in or how I'm feeling, I cry when I hear this
I am in US, and I need this song and its spirit much more desperately than before.
This bad dream will be over soon enough. Stay strong.
there are many translation in English. But a lot of em are y'know ,shit. Some of em said the Billy Bragg version is the best ,so i think you should check that one out.
oh and btw don't join CPUSA ,they are basiclly a laughing stock between other communist party lol.
Oh don't worry about that. I am not even a communist, but closer to Demo-socialist
+ha J well Dem-soc are not too good either... i think you should read the communist manifesto ,and compares it to your Dem-soc knowledge. or just ask those maoist guys who carry gun to Faschist rally lol. The thing is dude... democracy under capitalism is not a true democracy. The leader nomination have been picked by the bourg... and the outcome of the vote can be easily change by using certain amount of money. well... just compare the manifesto to your knowledge lol. oh yeah and good luck with Trumps victory... i recommend you to join the local ANTIFA to fight the Neo-Nazi ,but yeah your choice...
We need to overthrow the monarchy in Sealand.
COMRADE IT HAS BEEN 8 YEARS WHERE ARE YOU!
FINALLY, a version with ALL the stanzas on RUclips! Thanks a lot, iwanttobelieve! The 4th stanza has always been one of my favorites.
The original French lyrics were written in the same poetic meter and verse structure as La Marseillaise and Poittier intended it to be sung to that melody since everyone knew it. However, this ended up causing confusion among the audiences at labor rallies since they would end up singing the words they knew instead of the ones by Poittier. The tune by De Geyter we know it by was composed nearly two decades later and was largely responsible for the song's enduring popularity in the labor movement. (Don't even get me started on what it morphed into in Russia and other places!). The first English translation was likely penned by Eleanor Marx (Karl's daughter) when they were living in London. I am a big fan of Billy Bragg's new English version that was written at the behest of Pete Seeger at the Vancouver Folk Music Festival within days of the Tiananmen Square incident in 1989.
France : I composed it.
The world : you mean WE composed it
it was composed by a belgian, originally the marseillaise was the melody but in 1888 a belgian composed this original melody
If by "work" you mean "enable the capitalists to exploit workers", then yes, capitalism works. It works amazingly.
Thanks a lots! I love this version, it's a powerful rendition!
What a fabulous description, my hat goes off to you comrade. This is indeed a beautiful piece of musical and ideological genius!
Thank you for uploading this. Couldn't agree more with what you wrote in the infotext. Greetings from Sweden.
arise ye workers from your slumber,arise ye prisoners of want!
I like your video description. That's exactly my opinion!
Came to this song from Hearts of Iron 4 launch stream.
Playing this whilst playing commie france
J Master Go get the Kaiserreich music pack. u can find this song in it. It’s a good mod even without the Kaiserreich mod.
Workers and students of the world unite!
Merci pour la superbe version... Il est vrai que la version française est un condencé de rêves. Merveilleux.
I admit I'm a bit harsh with Lenin. He did great things (Fighting the Tsars and capitalism, allowing homosexuality, giving rights to women, ...), as he did the worst (The Red Terror). It's true I shoul not have listed him with people who really have f*cked their country.
Thanks for posting!
Wonderful inspiring song...we need to expand the horizon of such campaign world wide for a better world for the new generations !!
I promise you comrades that one day you'll sing this in front of your White House! We have nothing to lose but our chains! We have a world to win! 99% unite! Long live the communist revolution!
Raul Castro lands in Miami Florida and Pauline Maurois liberates Québec from Stephen Harper and invades Chicago and Buffalo. They meet in Ohio and March on Washington D.C. to install Barak Obama as military governor of a New World order in the New World!
Yes indeed comrade. America's socialist future is on the rise!
+Daniel The Greaser robots will bring communism, not people
Da zdravstvuyet revolyutsiya!
Daniel The Greaser not just the white house. Outside of the kremlin, outside of the french parliament, outside of the buckingham palace, outside of the tokio imperial palace, in every street, in every city, in the whole world! Glory to the global revolution!
I am in no way communist, but let let me just say that tgis song is awsome
Rouzbeh Modarresi Hell, even Social Democrats can sometimes use the Internationale. Some small bits of the Canadian NDP, the German SPD (in some occasions), and the old versions of the Labour Party in Britain.
Eh, Join Marxism-Leninism.
to be fair Social Democratic parties led the struggle for 60some years before the revolutionary parties emerged - modern Parliamentary Socialism may not be what it once was but in remembrance of the "old days" those that believe SDtism should hope to achieve socialism should sing it.
The Soviet Republic in 1500 orchestra of Internationale in the USA.
I've sent a litigation to RUclips and added a download link in the description !
It is kind of sad to me that no one has commented on or liked this comment.
@Patchman123 Just because communists and reactionaries criticize Islam doesn't mean they do so because of a similar motivation, for a similar reason, and/or with similar means. An Anarchist and a Nazi would both describe themselves as "anticapitalists" : the first because he opposes market society, private property, wage slavery, hierarchical organizations, etc ; the later because he wants to fight an alleged jewish control over finance seen as a threat to national unity.
Crimes perpetrated for Capitalism will haunt you forever. Communism isnt inherently evil. From each according to his ability, to each according to his need.
@CapitalistOverlord The original French words were written in June 1871 by Eugène Pottier (1816-1887, previously a member of the Paris Commune)[1] and were originally intended to be sung to the tune of La Marseillaise
- Sincerely,
Wikipedia
Article: The internationale
Greetings comrades, greeting from cradle of communism - former part of Soviet Union, Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
Пролетарии всех стран, соединяйтесь!
@JungleMeta I totally understand and agree with your resentment regarding the Bolsheviks. However, I don't get the part about the "zionists" ...?
@xCreScenDo I honestly don't know if it's possible at all, or what the repercussions would be if it was, but if every individual was aware of every other individual's thoughts and emotions as though they were their own, it would theoretically render it impossible to sate the baser desires through inflicting adversity on others since the individual that does so would also feel the negative consequences as if they applied to them.
Like the commentary. But, speaking as a devout atheist-anarchist , I must yet point out that the 'communists' (allowing for individual cases of bastardry) did, in reality, immeasurably improve the lives of the bulk of their people. I cite, in particular, Russia, China, Cuba and Vietnam and 'Yugoslavia. (That a Croation communist could become a most-loved leader of the Serbs ~ from which I'm extracted ~ speaks volumes.)
(Remember when your mother would exhort you to think of the poor starving children in China?) And without Stalin we'd all be talking nazi doctrine these days......... hmm. Come to think of it.........
Ideology remain unchanged. It's the Leviathan bound by reality that deteriorated.
Dude as a french communist party member I know the history of this song by heart and sing it with my comrades at every occasion.
Interesing I didn't know about the two versions, but I can tell that all european countries have two main leftist ideologies (international socialist, international communist) comparable to the one you sited.
Well, I didn't have room enough to put all the Socialists on this flag. xD But many ones of them sure deserve to appear on it.
@xxwzaebd : Try reading Farenheit 451 (even if I'm not sure you'll be able to fully understand the critism behind the book) before saying : Let's burn a book.
C'est la lutte finale, l'internationale sera le genre humain
@MyVacillation I do know what War Communism and the NEP were about. This isn't the problem. Kronstadt mutineers wanted Communism in its true form, that's why the Bolsheviks crushed them. Actually, how Lenin dealt with the mutiny isn't even the issue ; the problem is that he did deal with it. And both the Red Army and the Cheka were used : The first for food shortage, population containment and direct repression, and the later for carrying out arrests, torture and executions.
true...the wikitranslation keeps it evry close in the meaning to the french orginal...the german version though is kinds soft...
I love the song!It is unforgettable!
I wish I could establish a communist party(for REAL communism) in South Korea.
So do I comrade.
+Ketut Man I think that's exactly why they can't.
Yeah...the National Security Law banned communist activities ('collaboration with enemy') so there have been no single party in SK since 1949.(But NK has come up with their own Juche shit and some of SK leftists are just NK wannabes...)
That's why I want REAL communism,not juche or anything absurd. ..
It's to bad that Koreans history of anarchist communism has turned into Juche
I don’t believe all the ideals. I believe in the determination. Communist or not, the torch of freedom blazes with a passion.
It's May 1st, 2020 today.
L'internationale is not (only) a communist song, this is the song for all oppressed and exploited people, and for socialism. It is the song for all of those who fight/fought capitalism.
@Patchman123 And where did I say that I "liked" Islam ? I AM an atheist, I oppose religion, ALL religions, because I oppose the dynamics of domination it implies. It is just obvious, seeing your channel, that your opposition to Islam has nothing to do with mine, or that of Communism in general.
you are fuken bitch
fuck you
and your relatives
Just vibing to The Internationale at 1 am
Though you're (in my opinion) completely wrong with lenin, stalin and Mao's political ideology, I appreciate that you have Rosa Luxemburg on the front cover, she's often forgotten and it's a shame cos she was awesome...
✊✊Solidarity from India. Inquilab Zindabad!!
True, Comrade. I am aware that France was the original country that used this. But Russia, however, was the only country to have this as an official national anthem, as opposed to a party-only anthem like most communist/socialist countries did.
Thanks. I'll read those and get back to you.
Until victory
Enfin une version INTEGRALE de ce chant d'espoir et d'avenir. Ne serait-ce pas la voix de Marc Ogeret qui l'interprète ? Merci pour la publication.
yes it is true. the song was first made in french, then translated into most common languages. Although most people agree the french version is the best.
Karl Marx, Friedrich Engels and Rosa Luxemburg. Finally a picture with persons that fit each other! Without any Stalin or Lenin. Thank you a lot comrade!!!
I cannot say mao, stalin, and lenin are not communists, but I can say that I, and many other socialist/communists completely dissagree with those monsters.
lenin wasnt really a monster. in my opinion i think lenin was still a good leader. there were no mass killings under lenin
What? It was under Stalin that gulag prisoners were being used more for labour than murdered; under Lenin it was pure mass murder and revolutionary terror. Lenin just didn't seem to participate in that personally. Look up Dzierzynski and Cheka
If Lenin is a "monster" any political figure in recent Western capitalist history is a monster of the greatest proportions. Churchill massacred 2 million in Bengal which no one gives a shit about but Lenin is the monster because he took initial radical action against organizing royalist opposition/conspiring kulaks? Don't listen to capitalist propaganda comrade, every nation has something to be ashamed of if you are playing that game. And I'm saying this as someone whose ideology is definitely very anti-Maoist and usually anti-Stalinist.
Mao wasn't really a monster. He was unlucky.
@iwanttobelieve Kronstadt was full of Mensheviks.
classic songs
@MarxistStudant The copyright still belongs to Pierre De Geyter though, but it'll expire in 2017.
L'Internationale - the musical balm for the worker's aching soul.
Actually, for a human being's aching sould :)))
Well, dear dcbandnerd, I have lived in Communism and unlike you, I know what it is like to live a Communistic oppression. Without a doubt, Communism has proved to be the worst kind of dicatorship and oppression there had ever been invented throughout the human history. The song of the Internationale may sound great and revolutionary but, in reality, it is a song of an ideology which produced far the greatest bloodshed, terror and massmurder in history. Innocent people were tortured and killed in communistic prisons the conditions of which you cannot even imagine in your worst nightmares. Communism is estimated to have murdered near a billion people worldwide throughout its bloody seventy years of accursed history. So this song, dear dcbandnerd, is the song of the devil, the song of a psychopathic ideology whose only goal is to shed as much blood of humans as possible.
@@inandio I don't think this is in question. This is a song of hope first and foremost.
It's been twisted many times indeed, but you should take what you need from things.
I can understand you wouldn't want to hear the tune again. Quite frankly in your position, I'd probably feel the same way.
I ain't even communist or leftist. I ain't even a person of political conviction.
But the message the lyrics convey is one that I find strength in singing.
In the end it's up to you what you see in it.
@@inandio I know this is late but holy shit you managed to surpass the "Big Black Book of Communism" which was literally a right-wing propaganda book in communist kill counts
This song was written on the barricades of the Commune (or soon after, either way as an FU to the Third Republic).
回RUclipsr，感谢你的分享。不过我认为你在赞扬马恩的同时，应该对马列毛这些实践者保持尊重。谢谢。
Considering you used English to illustrate your points, I use Chinese to show my position.
Anarchy will fucking win
I'm fairly sure Lenin didn't do the Red Terror. It was ten years after he died.
I agree the about Lenin and Stalin but it doesn't look right with 3... Who can we sit next to Rosa
@ShayCarlFan1000 The Worker's Marseillaise and the Internationale are two different songs, aren't they?
Communism is founder mentally democratic, free, and God believing. Throughout the comment section, there isn't a single reason minded, left wing and revolutionary comment. All of which are just people who are discontented with their lives and expressing and distorting my communism.
Communism is not God believing but it can be sectarian
Specifically libertarian communism
Longue communisme en direct. Salutations du communiste polonais.
The original French version of this song is quite good, I will admit. However, it seems like the Russian version of "The Internationale" is still one of the better sung versions of this, after all, it WAS their anthem during the Lenin and early Stalin eras.
Sorry for being ignorant, but who is the woman behind Engels? Thanks in advance.
Rosa Luxembourg,german revolutionary(kind of,its complicated) socialist who was assasinated during the German Revolution in 1918
@GZH1234 How so? DPRK is based on the Juche idea, which is based on Marxism-Leninism.
I opposed the second Kim in a rather moderate way. I can't judge the third yet.
Video poster needs to read Cockshott
I'd also like to add that this is not the ORIGINAL version, the original version had the melody of the marseillaise
@xCreScenDo He was wrong about that actually, communism is a state of peaceful anarchy, the very concept of government is anathema to it. Whether or not he was motivated by greed or sought to change human nature, I can't say. The latter is required for communism to work, and it won't come about through political change. The only possibilities for that kind of change are all technological in nature. If you want me to elaborate on that though, just let me know.
well I am happy they listen to it, but how comes they don't have a revolution? this song inspired the greatest revolutions of the 19th and 20th century and it is even linked directly to the french revolution
This is the best song i've ever heard.
no i mean the idea that we as a human population in a certain area (earth as a whole or a specific region) need (no alternative) the construct of a state/ government (with some form of representation, either a parliament or a single person or etc) to live in an organized and more or less harmonious way...and i simply reject that statement
@iwanttobelieve : Thanks it's nice to see that some people are able to make the difference between the idealism and what has been named as "communism".
The very word "communism" comes originally from the Paris Commune of 1871, which predates Marx. It's really a French idea to begin with, and it was theorized by Marx, Engels,... As for Hegel, I'm not sure his ideas influenced the Paris Commune.
I don't think you can consider Lenin as a "fake communist", Stalin and Mao certainly, but Lenin along with his second man Trotsky were very much civil libertarians and Economic communists.
@MyVacillation The spark which lit up the thruth ? More like the spark the Bolsheviks suppressed so that the thruth wouldn't go "boom" in their face. And just because "other countries" (You mean, capitalist countries ?) would have reacted in the same way doesn't make the repression legitimate in any way ; actually, it would even prove bourgeois democracy and soviet republic had something in common. And they do : Neither tolerates individual indepedence.
Thanks for your comment, so that I could be informed of ... RUclips's measures. Just WHAT THE FUCK is this about ? How can the Internationale be deleted for COPYRIGHT INFRINGEMENT ?! This is pure non-sense. Who the hell do they think they are ? Well, there is one sure thing : I'm not letting this happen.
@xxwzaebd Thank you for your participation, Einstein.
@JungleMeta Lol right.
Ahh, okay. I've heard the term Red Terror more frequently applied to Stalin's Terror than to the Russian Civil War. In this case, it peaked more than ten years after Lenin died.
Could you re-upload the song somewhere else?
Was anyone else reminded of Tiger from Whinnie the Poe when listening to this guy sing?
thank your for this...and i am amazed at your discription, because i cldnt agree more...i am so tired of people thinking of communism when they mean left wing militaristic dictatorships....makes a debate almost impossible because i have to start at scratch with defining things first
It has a nice toon to it
@xCreScenDo These instincts are what allow adaptation to hostile environmemnts. Humans however, are capable of adapting hostile environments to suit their needs. This isn't really a phenomenon unique to humans, but no other known species has done it to such a degree as humanity has. This in turn has resulted in our baser instincts becoming more and more detrimental to our interests, to the point that humanity has long since supplanted nature as its worst enemy.
@iwanttobelieve, I think both you and xCreScendo have a distorted view of Bolshevism. Let's talk about it.
Trotsky was better than both--but most people don't understand that Stalin WASN'T popular, or even supposed to be in charge. He inherited the position of one of the secret power brokers and was a paranoid creep. Lenin was just really nice on posters and modernist statues...
He lead too, but that's a god reason as well.
Who is the woman in the thumbnail? I know Comrade Marx and Comrade Engels, but I have no idea who she is.
the word had no political definition back then. It was a simple synonym for grouping, together... etc. The political definition only came with the Paris comune.
You are right for the communist manifesto, but it didn't had that much of an impact on society at the time it was published. The movement came afterwards.
un chant riche en émotion
I don't think so. At first yes. But later when he built up his state capitalism, he exploited workers and farmers, and he also smashed the machnowtchina.
起来，饥寒交迫的奴隶！
起来，全世界受苦的人！
这是最后的斗争，团结起来到明天，
英特纳雄耐尔就一定要实现！
¡Arriba, los pobres del mundo
En pie, los esclavos sin pan!
Y gritemos todos unidos:
¡Viva La Internacional!
Enrique Ibarra 共产主义理想万岁
一定会实现！
To uploader: First of all, the Russian lyrics denounce war much more than the French version (due to the fact that WWI led to wide Bolshevik support)
Secondly, Marx encouraged the workers revolting and dethroning their leaders which is the only violence that BOTH versions suggest
Thirdly, both versions are largely the same. There's no underlying violent message
Fourthly, don't give people ideas about Lenin, Stalin and Mao. It'd be better for them to make their own judgements
I'm not communist,so I don't know everything about this ideology,so can someone please explain me what is the difference between a leninist and a trotskist? (sorry if my english is bad)
+John Smith The main distinction is Trotskyism/Marxism (state economy but personal freedom) and Stalinism (state economy and tyranny/no personal freedom). Lenin's rule was somewhere inbetween.
Chris P. Bacon OK thanks!
+John Smith That is a bit of a difficult question to answer concisely; a lot of what people call "Leninism" or "Marxism-Leninism" is in reality Stalinism, a very different beast all together. Lenin and Trotsky were comrades, and though they disagreed with each other at different times in the history of the Bolsheviki, they came to see many crucial questions in the same way. When Stalin seized power of the Bolshevik party, with the help of the discontented remnants of the bourgeoisie, he threw away some key, central aspects of Communism and Bolshevism; Trotsky, like Lenin, understood that the Russian Revolution's gains could only be safeguarded by expanding the revolution internationally. This is summed up in Trotsky's theory of Permanent Revolution. Communism had always been, first and foremost, an *international* and *working class* movement. Under Stalin, "Socialism in One Country" was advanced to appease the capitalist powers and to guarantee some wiggle room for the bourgeoisie in order for it to retain its economic privileges. Under Stalinism, Communism was conflated with nationalization, expropriation, and collectivization. While those are aspects of Communism, if they are not accomplished by the working class for its own benefit, they are not truly representative of a communist society. Those things become gains for the state apparatus and the bureaucracy (the new bourgeoisie) and are safeguarded by brutal repression--as evidenced by the fact that Stalin had almost every single one of the Old Bolsheviks from the Revolution killed or "disappeared."
+John Smith trotskyism had an more internationalist stance.
Slightly less nasty than full-on leninist/marxism/stalinism
John Smith trotsky created the idea of oermanent revolution
@manausk80 Si, c'est bien lui.
hi from iran, long live the international....
Workers of the world unite, against tyranny, oppression, and all forms of exploitation
@ShayCarlFan1000 Lenin (And Trotsky) are directly and indirectly reponsible for numerous abuses, including the repression of the Kronstadt Uprising and the Red Terror.
he moral justification of capitalism does not lie in the altruist claim that it represents the best way to achieve “the common good.” It is true that capitalism does-if that catch-phrase has any meaning-but this is merely a secondary consequence. The moral justification of capitalism lies in the fact that it is the only system consonant with man’s rational nature, that it protects man’s survival qua man, and that its ruling principle is: justice