Shearwater SWIFT Transmitters In-Depth Review
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- Опубликовано: 28 авг 2021
- In this video we discuss the features of the new Shearwater Swift Transmitters and put them to the test...should you upgrade your legacy transmitters to the new ones? How well do they work with the old transmitters and computers?
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Ive got 4 dives so far on 2 of these and my perdix. Already way better than my old suunto vyper and transmitters. I had so many connectivity problems with the suuntos so far im super happy as always with shearwater
Between you and Woody, here on , and James on DIVERS READY, you have sold me on the Shearwater dive computers. Looks like upgrades are in my future.
Great review. Keep them coming.
Dive safe
Today i take my first diveclas. Thank you Gus&Woody!
Congrats!
Surprise dive talk video? Yes please. I’ve got my eye on getting a perdix ai soon.
I LOVE my shearwater gear they can do no wrong!
Great review Gus, I purchased a Classic 1 week before the swift was announced, a bit of a bummer as I would have liked a battery indicator LED. However I just got back from Tobermory having done 10 deep wreck dives with other AI divers around me and the unit worked flawlessly. I agree with your recommendations, if you are a Rec diver and have a Classic there is no need to upgrade.
Thank you Eric...glad you found the review useful.
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Another helpful video.
Any thoughts on diving the Poseidon Odin as both a primary and pony bottle regulators?
Also, since Shearwater and Ocratorch like your guys, how about a Dive Talk discount code from each company? I know I would buy something from each, now that I know what you guys are usingper the link supplied in this videos description. Be safe.
@@centermass3454 Poseidon is LEGIT. And yes, there is a link in our profile to an OrcaTorch Online Store with a built in discount! Go to our RUclips Channel’s about tab and get your light there!
Amazing and very informative video ty Gus!!!
My pleasure!
Thx brother, you answered my questions.
Any time!
I've been running Suunto D5 and transmitter for 200 dives now and no problems. I recently bought a shearwater transmitter and an Oceanic computer and I've found that it loses comms quite often. I swim with my arms crossed around my waist, so I'm thinking the signal strength isn't that great with the shearwater. I got the shearwater transmitter as I wanted to opt for a Teric in the future and that would be the same brand. But now I might just get an Oceanic transmitter and see if it fares better.
I really like the Shearwater display of all the transmitters on one page. My Suuntos, use a different method to pair the RF signals so you can pair up to 20 transmitters, should you feel the need, but you have to select each one independently on the Gasses page to see its output. I personally just pair the left hand cylinder with the computer on my left wrist and the right with the right, so it's still easy. I haven't used the Garmin with its acoustic link which apparently has a much longer range for its up to 5 transmitters but I'd be interested to know if anyone finds that range useful.
Even though I’m not open water certified yet, I’m here for it xD
Awe thanks Julia! Did you get my message about that class in October?
Yeah boyyyyy, let's do this!
Great video, thanks! You’ve gained a sub. A question if I may… Do you know if two computers can share one transmitter? My scenario is this, I have a Perdix AI on the way, and since earlier an AquaLung i770r that I will keep as backup on the other arm. Only one tank involved. Would both computers be able to listen to the one single transmitter? Or would you need/want to have two anyway? Thx!
Absolutely. When I dive my rebreather both my Nerd 2 and Perdix AI show air pressure for 3 tanks at the same time. So yes, both of your computers will report one single transmitter no problem.
@@DIVETALK super, thank you very much for you quick reply!
I have a Suunto D5... I am thinking about buying a Tank Pod transmitter from Suunto.
Should i use a pressure gauge if i use a tranmistter with my computer?
Great review
Are you still using SPGs or just the transmiters?
Thanks
Just transmitters for me. But I do keep SPGs on the Bailout tanks in case I have to hand the tank to another buddy so he/she can see the pressure. But they are stowed under a band and out of sight for the whole dive.
@@DIVETALK thanks
Is it possible to sync one transmitter with two computers (teric + perdix)?
@@LucasLMaldonado absolutely. I have 4 transmitters synchronized to both my Perdix and Nerd 2
Hi Gus, do you perhaps know if you can connect the transmitters to your primary ( perdix ) and secondary ( teric) at the same time?
Yes, the transmitters simply broadcast. Each computer will 'hear' all transmitters in range but ignore any serial number it's not configure to listen to. I use mine with two Perdix'.
the reason you get no coms up is because you need to have a diffrent log rate for each transmiter because they cant read each one at once so 3 sec apart fixed the issue for me and is recomended when you buy a perdix dont know about other models but
hello im a big fan of your channel ..question please can this swift transmitter feed 2 units? if I have 2 shearwater computers. can both computers read 1 transmitter?
Yes. It can feed multiple units.
I use 2 swift with the nerd2 on my rEvo. But I have also 2 uwatec/scubapro transmitters from my open circuit stuff (double 12 and 80 cuft). Do you have experience with these transmitters on shearwater computers? If so, which part of serial number (13 digits) do you use for pairing? Not sure about the serial numer of your aqualung transmitter.
The Aqualung transmitter comes with the same amount of numbers on the serial as the Shearwater ones...I don't have any experience with Scubapro transmitters, but as long as they are on the same "frequency" the Shearwater should be able to read it. I would try the last digits and see if that works.
Thx for your answer. First or last 6 digits do not work. I did some research. Uwatec/scubapro can by connected only in there own family. Pairing can only initialized by pressure up the transmitter.
So I will order aqualung transmitter for my bailout tank. Thx for testing this combinations. Greetings from Germany
Nice review! thinking about ditching my analog SPG for another wireless transmitter (with a backup perdix AI). My wireless has been super reliable
That’s what I did…I do have “button SPGs” on some of my first stages.
@@DIVETALK good to know! It always seemed a bit ‘wrong’ to go fully electronic without a backup but also realized no one carries a backup analog SPG. Keep up the awesome content guys!
@@DiveHard either way you gotta call the dive if it fails
@@DiveHard And having a backup SPG increases the amount of o-rings that can fail quite a bit.
Lots of input. I'd take the leak risk over calling a dive due to connectivity or battery. Some expensive dive trips cost $300 a dive. I always have a SPG.
Do you actually use these regularly on your rebreather Gus? I’m old school I guess and like the dependability of the analog gauges.
I do. I have 3 transmitters on my rebreather and 1 on my Open Circuit.
Great! Thanks for letting me know. I’ve been in the IT field so long I’ve learned not to automatically trust new tech all the time. haha
That's a common point of discussion in tech diving groups. In recent years I've seen the average opinion shift to transmitters being just fine. I did my full cave course with transmitters and my (very experienced) cave instructor was fine with that. The type that Shearwater uses have proven to be very reliable. Just replace batteries every year or so. If a transmitter fails you should should call the dive and should still have an idea what your remaining gas supply is (or your computer will show the last value) so you should be able to surface safely, just like when an SPG fails. I've had an SPG o-ring leak and cause gas loss. Same thing can happen with a transmitter.
Do you have backup analog SPGs for all AI-monitored tanks or no? What're your thoughts on the necessity of redundancy in this regard? Thanks
This is a very controversial topic. I’ve had SPGs fail on me but never a transmitter, so I personally don’t have backup SPGs on all my first stages. I have button SPGs because they are really useful to quickly check if the tank is full without having to turn on the computer, but once I’m diving I rely 100% on Air Integration.
I will say that I don’t preach this as “the best way” or “the only way” to do it, there are some people that don’t trust air integration and only carry SPGs, some people carry both, I don’t tell anyone what to do I just like talking about what I do personally and why I do it that way, I also understand that a lot of people will disagree on the way I do it but they don’t have to dive with my gear.
Gus
@@DIVETALK Thanks for the detailed, thoughtful response! I just got a Shearwater AI dive computer and am making these decisions right now. I appreciate you sharing your experience and insights with us.
@@daASSasin901 that's what we are here for! Great choice of computer by the way!
@@daASSasin901 I agree 100% with Gus’s response on this.
From a pure reliability standpoint a transmitter without an analog gauge "should" be more reliable because you likely eliminate one of the more common points of failure which is the hose. (Transmitters *can* be mounted on an hp hose rather than directly to the first stage to give them better line of sight to your receiver.)
e.g. So even if the transmitter stops working, it's not going to be blowing hp gas out. Probably.
Not a fan of button gauges, but a qd tank checker is a lot handier than wrestling a reg from tank to tank.
An exception might be stages or safety bottles that are going to spend a lot of time in the water unattended. It probably makes more sense to have a normal analog gauge on these.
Anyone know if you can use a Suunto transmitter ( which I have)with a Shearwater Petrel 3 or any other transmitters with the Petrel ? I seemed to recall AquaLung used to work with the Shearwater computers and were cheaper. Not sure what the difference was !!!
Hey, Gus. I had a question and maybe a video idea for ya. Im currently looking for a good dive watch under 1k. Do you have any recommendations?
Not really. I’m not a fan of “dive watches”, watch style dive computers Yes, but not “dive watches”. I do dive with a watch once in a while but I don’t really use it on the dive for anything other than telling time.
Happy to recommend a nice watch for $1,000 that you can take diving, but I wouldn’t necessarily “use it” as a dive watch. 🙂
@@DIVETALK No I wouldn't be diving in it at all, I should have emphasized I only meant "diver watch " style and I am not a diver. It would only be going in the pool!
@@Philth_E when people think of Dive Watches I think they are looking for the look of a Rolex Submariner, and for under $1,000 I think the Seiko Prospex SNE573 is a good choice. It was developed with the people from XDeep, it looks great, and it's less than $500: www.seikowatches.com/us-en/products/prospex/sne573
Honestly though, if I had $1,000 to buy a watch I would buy a used Hamilton Jazzmaster Maestro...I mean just look at it, it's such a gorgeous watch! www.24diamonds.com/hamilton-jazzmaster-maestro-auto-chrono-mens-watch-h32716859_15015.html
I have several watches, and I wear them all the time, I don't think there is a single day I've worn my Hamilton and NOT gotten a compliment, it is probably my favorite watch, it is absolutely amazing. I wouldn't trade my Jazzmaster Maestro for the entire lineup of Seiko Prospex Watches.
But then again, I'm a "watch guy", not necessarily a "dive watch guy"
@@DIVETALK Well, it looks like I asked the right guy! Thanks for the info my man! That Hamilton is a very nice timepiece. Too bad its sold out, thanks for putting that on my radar though.
@@Philth_E you can find them for sale online for sure. Check out Chrono24 and even Amazon. Depending on the model they might be hard to find though. But they are breathtakingly gorgeous.
Hey Gus, what's the process to change the battery. The process doesn't seem as easy as the old model. Which would be quite a pain given that you can change the battery with a coin on the old one ...
It’s not super complicated but like you said it’s not as easy as the legacy transmitter. The instructions are on Page 11 of the manual: www.shearwater.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/06/Swift-Operating-Instructions-Rev_G.pdf
From my experience diving with a single transmitter, occasionally it loses connection maybe once or twice an hour, no big deal at all.
Arn't shearwater, oceanic, aqualung transmitters all made by the same third party company, just branded respectively
Anyone down in the panhandle got any contacts for lion fish hunting? I’ve got the itch, but I don’t want to go on a loaded commercial boat. I like to dive with the locals.
The guys at Shark Quest are awesome
I wanna learn but there's no diving schools in pa that I know of
Really? There's dive shops everywhere! Where do you live?
Great community for people on discord and fans of Dive Talk:
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These look like powerwasher nozzles. What is cost of these?
I shared the cost in the video
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How about writing down the numbers so you never have to worry again.
Meh...how could I ramble for like an hour if I wrote it all down like that :D
Why is it reporting the same tanks multiple times? That's just confusing.
Because I went to the menu that shows 4 tanks but by default it only shows 3 on the main screen, so when I went to the menu that showed all 4 then 3 of those 4 were repeating...when I'm diving I only see the 3 tanks I'm diving with.
@@DIVETALK Can you make it show all 4 on the main screen?
@@mudbob1 yes
@@DIVETALK Nice. I just recently got a couple of the Garmin when the descent 2 released. I think the real test will be reading for tanks in odd positions like butt mounted O2 and stages. The acoustic tech from Garmin would seem to be better suited for that with its greater range, but we'll see.
I dislike the way you change batteries on the new transmitters. The old one was much more convenient.
I can see your point...it's a bigger effort to change the batteries but I rather have that LED...Maybe the next generation can have the LED and still be as easy as the old generation to change the battery?