The old generations always hate the new generations of music. Simple as that. Damn near every new subgenre of hip hop that has popped up was hated by the old guard, even the stuff that's now seen as "universally beloved classics."
I think it’s because of the merit and performance aspect. A lot of these artist just say adlibs and dance. Plus a “mumble” can get a top song then offer ridiculous deals off a trend then sink into obscurity. It’s not always but most of the time. Those that apply a hybrid of mumble and lyrical have shown consistency like 21 savage.
@taqifsharazen7195After drill came out with chief keef and trap music once it blew. Began the monetization of rap and so many people sounding the same. Creativity went out the window when you can hop on a 140 tempo trap beat and go spit anything. Coupled with making a song is easier then ever with a RUclips beat and even a Xbox mic. You now have an oversaturated genre where companies and labels are trying to profit off the next upcoming thing.
@taqifsharazen7195 but in the end, who gives a shit. ur not gonna make the next die lit. you simply cant. theres a lot of sophistication in "mumble rap". Im not talking about those who blew up and fell down like lil pump. im talking abt people who release for years and years and are still hyped. Like uzi, carti, future and thug. just listen to ds2, jeffery or luv is rage2. its about the vibe rather than the message (even tho future has a great message if you listen close enough)
@@ishyameru6232 I'm huge huge into Kenny Mason, he's got a dope rap/rock/punk style but he writes beautifully and rocks hard. I recommend listening to the first Angelic Hoodrat album, its a great representation of his talent.
Shame seeing Fantano being cast as the scapegoat. Mans has never came out and said "this album is bad its not worth your time its a 4" its always about your own opinion
Ive just accepted that Im the crotchety old man who hates new things when it comes to mumble rap. It sounds like I'm listening to a stroke victim over a beat and I'd rather listen to crazy ass Kanye's discography for the 1746th time.
Was hoping this video would punch just a little bit deeper into the appeal of mumble rap music. I am in my 30s and I missed what seems to be an entire generation of rap, listening to the same old stuff and bumping southern rap on woofers. Discovering Playboi, years later, in some instances, and rappers like Yeat has been a fresh change of pace. I am left handed and care little about the lyrical content (while not dismissing the lyrics outright, and never dismissing the lyrical content of rappers prior, and giving them their own lane), and am appealed catching the odd bar or stand-out phrase here or there, and of course the chorus, but I ultimately relate to how I feel by the melodies and especially the basslines. The barely tangible lyrics are just another layer, it's incredible how simple it seems, but how difficult it is to pull off effectively.
Amazing video, it’s kinda funny cuz I would argue with people and they would say things like hiphops dying, lyrical content isn’t there anymore but that’s not true we literally have everything now the barrier to entry is insanely small and everyone can find something in there niche. I think the genre is in the best place it’s been in years because I can Bump and hear people talking about new Joey badass or mavi, but I can also bump and hear people talking about thug or bktherula. I think that shits golden
This video is pretty accurate but they’re some things to consider. We have to go back to 2005. Before there was mumble rap, it was ringtone rapper. After ringtone rap, there was being an entertaining rapper for a short period of time(as announced by Soulja Boi in 2009). Back to ringtone rap, 2005 would be the beginning of a new era of hiphop. One would argue that the root cause of the new era of rap would be D4L or DFB. However, the argument can go back more years where some would argue that the southern music was a new era of hiphop. Ultimately, each generation has their own interpretation of when a new era began. Hiphop evolves itself each and every day and some of us are just growing up realizing newer things. Edit: As Hiphop turns 50 years old. Take this time look back on how much hiphop has changed and evolved over the years. Note that during the continuous 50 year run of hiphop, imagine the time periods where certain areas will have its own sound developed from hiphop’s foundation. It’s an amazing thing to think about! Happy 50th Birthday Hip-Hop! 🎶 ❤
I was already gonna sub to this channel on the great info and good ass editing alone but then I heard the Dk country soundtrack and had to pause and leave a comment. Well done my friend👏🏽
Ay, do you have the study talking about being a "lyric person" or a "melody person" correlating with job preferences? I'd be interested in looking at it! Cool video!
i never understood the mumble rap hate, at the end of the day it’s music so if it sounds good it sounds good. I have moods where i want good lyrics but i also have moods where i just want sound, if i’m washing the dishes i’ll just shuffle a playlist and hope something like uzi or carti comes on cus it just sounds good and i’m not rlly gonna be listening to it i’ll just be vining
That's perfectly fine. Honestly, the "mumbling" never really bothered me, because I always had trouble making lyrics out even in songs that were perfectly clear in pronunciation. That said, it's boring. It's generic. And most "mumble rappers" don't have any personality or interesting facets to their presentation that makes up for it
For me its more the fact that artists thats generic and not that creative gets all the shine while extremmely talented artists wont get pushed. Most of the really well known “mumble rappers” have something special in Them. I quite like a lot of Them a lot, but i would love artists like little simz gerting more shine instead like J Cole and kendrick did before that.
Skooly (Skoolboy from Rich Kids) brought in the sound and took future under his wing in the song Freeband Gang but even before that he had street records that were doing numbers elsewhere. Gotta remember this was right before the hype of streaming and most of the plays came from ripped gas station CDs and that info can't be found online. My first job was at a bootleg cd store. I know plenty of street records that certainly went 2x Platinum in early atl that sound the same and came out long before Tony Montana. Mightve been the biggest at the time but Rich Kids, Travis Porter, Migos, Trouble, OJ Da Juiceman, Thug, Bloody J, D4L in the old days esp, Gucci on occasion, anything DJ Infamous touched, etc. I could go on for days. ^ countering Tony Montana.
Its strange that in a video about music, the best music is not named, but played, and it is stickerbrush symphony by the donkey kong ost... amazing video btw
you forgot to mention that LYOR COHEN moved to RUclips as Head of Global music somewhere in this time-line. im quite SURE he was a major player in all the fuk shit going mainstream.
qualitywise new music just feel like demo takes. Back inthe day I would download music from MZhiphop, there would be 200 tracks released everyday by multiple artists and there would sometime be demo version of tracks, you would see the evolution of certain songs, but now it seems artist dont refine anything, they just put the music out. Kids that grew up with this type of music dont know any better. My generation had the mixtape, but the refined version would be on the ALBUM. Nowadays albums are dead and we just get the "mixtape" version for everything. Alot of artist nowadays, just put out anything and hope something sticks. Its just too much nonsense to sift through.
we have to thank all the online hip hop websites of the early 2010s. hotnewhiphop datpiff mymixtapez worldstar and etc were instrumental to this streaming shit. you were able to see all the stats a song or mixtape had like amount of listens and downloads. you were also able to leave comments. it was very community driven. this later led to soundcloud
0:20 ""WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU"" I don't know if that's meant to be a reference or not, with the background instrumental of What's the Difference
Lovely video, growing up around the mumble rap hate era was so strange given how much I love artists like future and young thug nowadays, I'm glad we're past that lol
6:40 "Kendrick Cole and even D̵̢͉͎͔̜͕͉̲͎̙̍̌̐̓̎̽̀̊̉͒͛͋̕͠ͅr̴̝̫̜͓͍̭̙͓͔͛̈́́͜͠ą̸̞̪̣͇̫̠͔͖̝̹̝̟̞̹̙͙͈͊̈̐͂̇̓̽͜k̷̺͓̏̂̉͑̆͝͠ē̷̞̣͍͔͍͈͍͕̩͚͇͍̳͉̯͚̉̀̕͝͝ͅ" boiii what the hell
To be fair, a LOT of the early mumble rap tracks were mid and some of them were just memes, like Lifestyle or Flicka da Wrist. It's like any other genre: the mainstream stuff is gonna be lowest common denominator usually and the really good stuff takes a while to surface. But yeah, tbh this video I was a lot more mad at until I realized I basically feel the same way about Nu Metal.
Fantastic production, cool history of streaming and the new generation of rap. Totally disagree with you left brain/right brain critics thing, I don’t the generalizations you made are true, indent think critics are inherently more biased towards lyrical music due to their brain chemistry, I think they were biased towards lyrical music because more mumbley melodic rap was a brand new thing at the time, and as our audio equipment gets better, you can get away with more mumbley lyrics and people can still understand what your saying.
all genres go through changes that the previous gen won't really accept until it's reached the mainstream. it's ironic that "mumble rap" got so much crap but legends like ghostface killah admitted to rapping about nothing and just rhyming wors for the sake of rhyming words on projects like Supreme Clientele
With the release of 'On the Street' with J Cole and J-Hope(BTS) and 'The End' with Lil Uzi and BABYMETAL, does this look like the start of the next level for both melodic and lyrical rap with collaborations with Asian artists and bands?
Bro, if I wanted to "try" music to see if it was worth my money...I'd download...pretty much as easily as you can stream today. But I get your point. Generationally it has gotten easier to listen to large and varied amounts of music.
I am more of a melodic type of guy but I have never left the mumble rapping hate train, mumble rapping actually kills good beats. Am glad we are mostly past that era and their beats became mainstream.
not me. I like trap but its so godamm overused. Almost every song i hear today is the same godamm trap beat. If producers actually put more effort into making their trap beats sound more unique i would love it.
i dont like mumble rap like at all. Its because i listen to lyrics more than melody. but i have a this thing where i have to isolate every part of a song and if i dont understand lyrics it makes my enjoyment of the song worse
the fact that no one paid attention to Busta rhymes speech in the BET award is really saying something in this video and comment section, modern music never changed, ppl just listens to the same thing over and over.
Plus you can change your ability to listen for different qualities in music and a lot of mfs hating on newer hip hop aren't necessarily "lyric centric" listeners a massive amount of them just can't parse it through engineering that doesn't require the rapper behind it is yelling lol. Which is a them problem.
I remember going to Myrtle beach and hearing Tony Montana for the first time. I was so irritated as a northerner, especially since it was a part of the radio station’s commercial. I did like YC Racks though
Sorry I may be biased but when I look at the "mumble rappers/melodic rappers" of today I see Lil Wayne clones. Lil Wayne been doing what people in 2014 were doing in 2007. It's undeniable.
Glad someone pointed this out. A lot of people overlook his influence considering that he was one of the more lyrical rappers. Drugs played a huge part in it imo
And this has effected on the hip hop genre overall, so far in 2023 this is the first time in 30 years a hip hop song has not charted to number 1 on billboard. Though we have more melodic hip hop rappers, hip hop is still the least melodic genre out of all genres .
Hip hop rose to fame via Rhythm and Storytelling. "The Message" Melle Mel 1981 is when hip hop started being taken seriously. Coi Leray sampled it this year 2023 and was the highest on billboard. Youre right, if I realy wanted melody I would go to a different genre, Rock or Pop. Hip hop tries to compete in that space and loses the very thing that made it great. They warned Jazz musicians trying to bend genres would killed jazz and it did, Progressive rock did the same thing until Punk Rock woke them up. They think they are being so progressive but they are following the same patterns saying hIp hOP iS eVoleving. Country Music has lasted so long because its gate kept so well. Hip Hop truly is dead.
I know its kinda supposed to be a joke but you should put someone other than fantano in here like let him live or at least cite other people scores hes not the only one, other than that interesting vid
Yeah. People’s obsession with him is weird. He has an entire subreddit. Which, is useful for music discussions now that Reddit’s API changes drove away the main music subreddit, but I just can’t take the idea of being a fan of a random music critic seriously.
@@prettierjesus3119 can understand being a fan of him, I am a huge fan of some critics online for their personality and overall content but it’s just too far with fantano sometimes imo. Like he’s the face of online music criticism kinda but like other ppl exist especially in a vid info is being cited to prove a point. The only online RUclips critic shown in here was him. Ill say it again tho, other than that this vid was sick. Not tryna hate lol I can get over the fantano abuse
I listen to a lot of different genres of music, I didn't even like rap growing up until I was like 17; I was much more of a metal kid. But the thing is now that I listen to a lot obscure post metal where you cannot tell what they are yelling most of the time, and it doesn't matter. To me that how "mumble" rap is. Listen, I get it, rap purists are the way they are because rap started mostly being very lyrical and if that's all you've listened to and all you know, of course you're gonna care more about lyrics and their audibility more than anything else. But I personally don't give a shit, that's not my perspective. I don't care about lyrics unless they're like so audibly corny that I can't take it, but to me music has always been more about the sound. The voice is just another instrument and I don't need to be listening to an audio book every time I listen to music, to me it's about the MUSIC.
@@21YearOldLonerVirginIMHO, I think that's why most of these kids are getting dumber. They are more focused on vibes than understanding. Lyrics are more important but the music is supposed to keep you listening
The world is changing so fast we just get used to taking in new things, back then, the same thing would go on for 20 years and nobody would really care, now that humanity got so far in new stuff in like, 15 years, we know that its gonna change, so why care?
The old generations always hate the new generations of music. Simple as that. Damn near every new subgenre of hip hop that has popped up was hated by the old guard, even the stuff that's now seen as "universally beloved classics."
I think it’s because of the merit and performance aspect. A lot of these artist just say adlibs and dance. Plus a “mumble” can get a top song then offer ridiculous deals off a trend then sink into obscurity. It’s not always but most of the time. Those that apply a hybrid of mumble and lyrical have shown consistency like 21 savage.
im 17 and i hate mumble rap and love mf doom and freddie gibbs
@taqifsharazen7195After drill came out with chief keef and trap music once it blew. Began the monetization of rap and so many people sounding the same. Creativity went out the window when you can hop on a 140 tempo trap beat and go spit anything. Coupled with making a song is easier then ever with a RUclips beat and even a Xbox mic. You now have an oversaturated genre where companies and labels are trying to profit off the next upcoming thing.
And its happening again with lots of this generation too. They dont realize theyre hating some good stuff cause its not what theyre used to 🤷♂️
@taqifsharazen7195 but in the end, who gives a shit. ur not gonna make the next die lit. you simply cant. theres a lot of sophistication in "mumble rap". Im not talking about those who blew up and fell down like lil pump. im talking abt people who release for years and years and are still hyped. Like uzi, carti, future and thug. just listen to ds2, jeffery or luv is rage2. its about the vibe rather than the message (even tho future has a great message if you listen close enough)
Great video i can tell you put a lot of effort into editing this
Thank you so much! I spent way too much time haha
The actual song that changed hip hop forever was I don’t like by chief keef
yeah man making a vid about the origins of mumble rap and not mentioning chief keef at all is a crime
no keef or flocka …
@@payxs1 Imo Bone thugs N harmony were the first mumble rappers
Agree
I enjoyed how this was edited. Nice work.
Thank you!
GOT reference
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And lyrical is totally re-emerging from the underground now with more modern production styles it’s dope
Facts!
Facts I might actually get some shine now
an recommendations? couple artists
@@ishyameru6232 I'm huge huge into Kenny Mason, he's got a dope rap/rock/punk style but he writes beautifully and rocks hard. I recommend listening to the first Angelic Hoodrat album, its a great representation of his talent.
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this ended so abruptly that i thought it was a fake ending bro
bro
Haha I appreciate you making it to the end tho. I didn't want to waste time with an outro. Noted for next time for sure.
@@TofuMediaOfficial You could prob just have the music get louder fading into black or change to a screen with your socials
@@antigone.i will spread your cheeks bro 😭🙏🙏i better not catch you in my comments again or its gon be OVER for you 👾
@@TofuMediaOfficialeuhm my guy: intro content outro. Thats just the formula even if outro is like 10 sec
Why’s the ending so abrupt, great video though
Fr 😭I was not expecting ts
I didn't want to waste any time but next time I will for sure let it cool down a bit haha
So we didn’t notice him call drake a lyrical rapper lol
@@do_yohomework I did notice that. let out a little chuckle too 🤭
Stylistic choice
I had Tony Montana on my iPod nano 4th gen🤣😭and I remember when future performed it at a cowboys game shit was crazy at the time
The first mumble rap verse was from Lil Wayne on Can’t Believe It by T-Pain in 08 iykyk
Shame seeing Fantano being cast as the scapegoat. Mans has never came out and said "this album is bad its not worth your time its a 4" its always about your own opinion
Mumble rap is just how you sing with homies when you're high af, so its relatable.
Great vid! I really like your style of content & the visuals you use 💯
if its music to my ears, its music to my ears
this video needs a lot more views and likes this is too good
Ive just accepted that Im the crotchety old man who hates new things when it comes to mumble rap. It sounds like I'm listening to a stroke victim over a beat and I'd rather listen to crazy ass Kanye's discography for the 1746th time.
Was hoping this video would punch just a little bit deeper into the appeal of mumble rap music. I am in my 30s and I missed what seems to be an entire generation of rap, listening to the same old stuff and bumping southern rap on woofers. Discovering Playboi, years later, in some instances, and rappers like Yeat has been a fresh change of pace. I am left handed and care little about the lyrical content (while not dismissing the lyrics outright, and never dismissing the lyrical content of rappers prior, and giving them their own lane), and am appealed catching the odd bar or stand-out phrase here or there, and of course the chorus, but I ultimately relate to how I feel by the melodies and especially the basslines. The barely tangible lyrics are just another layer, it's incredible how simple it seems, but how difficult it is to pull off effectively.
Drake? Lyrically focused songs??😂😂😂😂 saythaturalesbiangirlmetoo
He has some great bars and some of the worst in rap lol
bro drop the GoT reference holy shit 😭😭😭
Amazing video, it’s kinda funny cuz I would argue with people and they would say things like hiphops dying, lyrical content isn’t there anymore but that’s not true we literally have everything now the barrier to entry is insanely small and everyone can find something in there niche. I think the genre is in the best place it’s been in years because I can Bump and hear people talking about new Joey badass or mavi, but I can also bump and hear people talking about thug or bktherula. I think that shits golden
Great video man 💪
Appreciate it!
This video is pretty accurate but they’re some things to consider. We have to go back to 2005. Before there was mumble rap, it was ringtone rapper. After ringtone rap, there was being an entertaining rapper for a short period of time(as announced by Soulja Boi in 2009).
Back to ringtone rap, 2005 would be the beginning of a new era of hiphop. One would argue that the root cause of the new era of rap would be D4L or DFB. However, the argument can go back more years where some would argue that the southern music was a new era of hiphop.
Ultimately, each generation has their own interpretation of when a new era began. Hiphop evolves itself each and every day and some of us are just growing up realizing newer things.
Edit: As Hiphop turns 50 years old. Take this time look back on how much hiphop has changed and evolved over the years. Note that during the continuous 50 year run of hiphop, imagine the time periods where certain areas will have its own sound developed from hiphop’s foundation. It’s an amazing thing to think about! Happy 50th Birthday Hip-Hop! 🎶 ❤
Heard lifestyle at a Kick back while on acid. Felt like it went on for 3 hours but it was orgasmic
I was already gonna sub to this channel on the great info and good ass editing alone but then I heard the Dk country soundtrack and had to pause and leave a comment. Well done my friend👏🏽
Ay, do you have the study talking about being a "lyric person" or a "melody person" correlating with job preferences? I'd be interested in looking at it! Cool video!
Same, because even though I focus more on the melodies, I still really like the idea of being a critic
i never understood the mumble rap hate, at the end of the day it’s music so if it sounds good it sounds good. I have moods where i want good lyrics but i also have moods where i just want sound, if i’m washing the dishes i’ll just shuffle a playlist and hope something like uzi or carti comes on cus it just sounds good and i’m not rlly gonna be listening to it i’ll just be vining
Exactly, just more musical variety for more situational listening moments
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That's perfectly fine.
Honestly, the "mumbling" never really bothered me, because I always had trouble making lyrics out even in songs that were perfectly clear in pronunciation.
That said, it's boring. It's generic. And most "mumble rappers" don't have any personality or interesting facets to their presentation that makes up for it
In my opinion anyway
For me its more the fact that artists thats generic and not that creative gets all the shine while extremmely talented artists wont get pushed. Most of the really well known “mumble rappers” have something special in Them. I quite like a lot of Them a lot, but i would love artists like little simz gerting more shine instead like J Cole and kendrick did before that.
It took me years to like Lifestyle unironically, glad I can enjoy it now
Crazy I always loved it but honestly couldn’t understand him 😂
man I was like 9 in 2014 watching those vines and I swore I couldn't understand shit I was like "how does anyone find this funny" 😭😭😭
amazing editing 10/10 video this deserves more credit ngl
3:52 lmfao donkey kong bg music
Skooly (Skoolboy from Rich Kids) brought in the sound and took future under his wing in the song Freeband Gang but even before that he had street records that were doing numbers elsewhere. Gotta remember this was right before the hype of streaming and most of the plays came from ripped gas station CDs and that info can't be found online. My first job was at a bootleg cd store. I know plenty of street records that certainly went 2x Platinum in early atl that sound the same and came out long before Tony Montana. Mightve been the biggest at the time but Rich Kids, Travis Porter, Migos, Trouble, OJ Da Juiceman, Thug, Bloody J, D4L in the old days esp, Gucci on occasion, anything DJ Infamous touched, etc. I could go on for days. ^ countering Tony Montana.
How about us who pay attention to everything from the strings to the lyrics ?
Dichotomies help humans understand things and also prevent them from understanding things lol. Nothing can ever be in the middle.
Its strange that in a video about music, the best music is not named, but played, and it is stickerbrush symphony by the donkey kong ost... amazing video btw
This video ended like the sopranos
you forgot to mention that LYOR COHEN moved to RUclips as Head of Global music somewhere in this time-line. im quite SURE he was a major player in all the fuk shit going mainstream.
qualitywise new music just feel like demo takes. Back inthe day I would download music from MZhiphop, there would be 200 tracks released everyday by multiple artists and there would sometime be demo version of tracks, you would see the evolution of certain songs, but now it seems artist dont refine anything, they just put the music out. Kids that grew up with this type of music dont know any better. My generation had the mixtape, but the refined version would be on the ALBUM. Nowadays albums are dead and we just get the "mixtape" version for everything. Alot of artist nowadays, just put out anything and hope something sticks. Its just too much nonsense to sift through.
we have to thank all the online hip hop websites of the early 2010s. hotnewhiphop datpiff mymixtapez worldstar and etc were instrumental to this streaming shit. you were able to see all the stats a song or mixtape had like amount of listens and downloads. you were also able to leave comments. it was very community driven. this later led to soundcloud
Cartier god and black kray were around before future so id say one of them was the first mumble rapper
0:20 ""WHAT'S THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN ME AND YOU"" I don't know if that's meant to be a reference or not, with the background instrumental of What's the Difference
You guys are underrated
Never in my life did I think I would pick a video with uzi’s face and get assaulted by the plot to game of thrones 😂
Lovely video, growing up around the mumble rap hate era was so strange given how much I love artists like future and young thug nowadays, I'm glad we're past that lol
As someone who's 20 i'm not. I like old future but new future🤢. Modern "music" sucks especially rap. I hate Gen Z. Wish we had 2pac & biggie back
NGL ppl getting dumber if they don't like lyrical or can't find a balance with lyrical and "mumble".
amazing job on the vids bro, you're killing it. caught my eye with the shorts, keep it up and you'll blow up quick. great content
Thank you!
6:40 "Kendrick Cole and even D̵̢͉͎͔̜͕͉̲͎̙̍̌̐̓̎̽̀̊̉͒͛͋̕͠ͅr̴̝̫̜͓͍̭̙͓͔͛̈́́͜͠ą̸̞̪̣͇̫̠͔͖̝̹̝̟̞̹̙͙͈͊̈̐͂̇̓̽͜k̷̺͓̏̂̉͑̆͝͠ē̷̞̣͍͔͍͈͍͕̩͚͇͍̳͉̯͚̉̀̕͝͝ͅ" boiii what the hell
To be fair, a LOT of the early mumble rap tracks were mid and some of them were just memes, like Lifestyle or Flicka da Wrist. It's like any other genre: the mainstream stuff is gonna be lowest common denominator usually and the really good stuff takes a while to surface.
But yeah, tbh this video I was a lot more mad at until I realized I basically feel the same way about Nu Metal.
@@a-lo1ld I was though, i was in highschool when Young Thug first broke onto the scene.
I am like a big old school underground guy but I do listen to thug future drake and more
Fantastic production, cool history of streaming and the new generation of rap.
Totally disagree with you left brain/right brain critics thing, I don’t the generalizations you made are true, indent think critics are inherently more biased towards lyrical music due to their brain chemistry, I think they were biased towards lyrical music because more mumbley melodic rap was a brand new thing at the time, and as our audio equipment gets better, you can get away with more mumbley lyrics and people can still understand what your saying.
Revisionist history god dam😂
Buddy u had me lost w that Game of Thrones references.
all genres go through changes that the previous gen won't really accept until it's reached the mainstream.
it's ironic that "mumble rap" got so much crap but legends like ghostface killah admitted to rapping about nothing and just rhyming wors for the sake of rhyming words on projects like Supreme Clientele
Not about the words it’s da vibez ✨
5:47 REAL SHIT Fantano such a Uzi hater
You went off on this video 🔥🔥🔥
investing in this video at 9k views, this is TOO well made to not blow up
People act like lil Wayne didnt influence mumble rap with Auto tune as well too lol
bro put donkey kong country as ambience at 3:48, 🔥🔥
LIFT YOURSELF IS A GOOD SONG
This was a sick video thank you man🫡
The Zelda music in the back😂😂
With the release of 'On the Street' with J Cole and J-Hope(BTS) and 'The End' with Lil Uzi and BABYMETAL, does this look like the start of the next level for both melodic and lyrical rap with collaborations with Asian artists and bands?
I wouldn't even say mumble rap I'd just say this is when trap in general started to get more mainstream
Great video!
thumbnail got me thinkin a minecraft painting did all ts 💀
underrated
Bro, if I wanted to "try" music to see if it was worth my money...I'd download...pretty much as easily as you can stream today. But I get your point. Generationally it has gotten easier to listen to large and varied amounts of music.
0:20 The way you asking “What’s the difference” while playing “What’s the difference” goes severely hard.
I am more of a melodic type of guy but I have never left the mumble rapping hate train, mumble rapping actually kills good beats. Am glad we are mostly past that era and their beats became mainstream.
not me. I like trap but its so godamm overused. Almost every song i hear today is the same godamm trap beat. If producers actually put more effort into making their trap beats sound more unique i would love it.
The shots at anthony😂😂😂
This first time listening Tofu Media 07/14/23
Wu-Tang beats and Donkey Kong Country tracks in the same video? Dope.
whatevah whatevah XO Tour Life changed dah game
Was gonna say 💯
3:25 what song is that? I feel like ive heard it in the past but i dont know where from
As a gen z I think our music taste is trash like bro in the school hall there’s mfs blasting ice spice and Yeat and the newest TikTok song
Entertaining video, but doesn't make a very coherent argument.
i dont like mumble rap like at all. Its because i listen to lyrics more than melody. but i have a this thing where i have to isolate every part of a song and if i dont understand lyrics it makes my enjoyment of the song worse
the fact that no one paid attention to Busta rhymes speech in the BET award is really saying something in this video and comment section, modern music never changed, ppl just listens to the same thing over and over.
fantastic video
Donkey Kong music during the brain analysis goated 👍🏿👍🏿
Plus you can change your ability to listen for different qualities in music and a lot of mfs hating on newer hip hop aren't necessarily "lyric centric" listeners a massive amount of them just can't parse it through engineering that doesn't require the rapper behind it is yelling lol. Which is a them problem.
Mumble rap ain’t bad and Lyrical rap ain’t bad, I listen to what I wanna listen to when it’s all said and done as long as it sounds good
2005? CD’s? Paying for music in general?
My brother this was the era of LimeWire and iPods.
congrats on hitting a million views and 100k subs... I know im early
I remember going to Myrtle beach and hearing Tony Montana for the first time. I was so irritated as a northerner, especially since it was a part of the radio station’s commercial. I did like YC Racks though
Fantano got that lyrical bias mmm
Chief keef - Love Sosa. Also Lil B is often considered to be "the first mumble rapper"
Love sosa def not mumble rap
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Man I am at season 6
Sorry I may be biased but when I look at the "mumble rappers/melodic rappers" of today I see Lil Wayne clones. Lil Wayne been doing what people in 2014 were doing in 2007. It's undeniable.
Glad someone pointed this out. A lot of people overlook his influence considering that he was one of the more lyrical rappers. Drugs played a huge part in it imo
What about lil b
Pretty sure he did mumble rap before future
TYBG
It all makes sense now 🫨
lol fantano's problems with those albums was not the melody/lack of lyricism.. this is obvious to any of his long time viewers
And this has effected on the hip hop genre overall, so far in 2023 this is the first time in 30 years a hip hop song has not charted to number 1 on billboard. Though we have more melodic hip hop rappers, hip hop is still the least melodic genre out of all genres .
Hip hop is dead
Hip hop rose to fame via Rhythm and Storytelling. "The Message" Melle Mel 1981 is when hip hop started being taken seriously. Coi Leray sampled it this year 2023 and was the highest on billboard.
Youre right, if I realy wanted melody I would go to a different genre, Rock or Pop. Hip hop tries to compete in that space and loses the very thing that made it great.
They warned Jazz musicians trying to bend genres would killed jazz and it did, Progressive rock did the same thing until Punk Rock woke them up. They think they are being so progressive but they are following the same patterns saying hIp hOP iS eVoleving. Country Music has lasted so long because its gate kept so well.
Hip Hop truly is dead.
So what’s “This Song” referenced in the title? Is it Tony Montana? Lifestyle? There are a few influential songs referenced throughout the video.
I know its kinda supposed to be a joke but you should put someone other than fantano in here like let him live or at least cite other people scores hes not the only one, other than that interesting vid
Yeah. People’s obsession with him is weird. He has an entire subreddit.
Which, is useful for music discussions now that Reddit’s API changes drove away the main music subreddit, but I just can’t take the idea of being a fan of a random music critic seriously.
@@prettierjesus3119 can understand being a fan of him, I am a huge fan of some critics online for their personality and overall content but it’s just too far with fantano sometimes imo. Like he’s the face of online music criticism kinda but like other ppl exist especially in a vid info is being cited to prove a point. The only online RUclips critic shown in here was him. Ill say it again tho, other than that this vid was sick. Not tryna hate lol I can get over the fantano abuse
Bob Dylan is the first mumble rapper I remember hearing
I listen to a lot of different genres of music, I didn't even like rap growing up until I was like 17; I was much more of a metal kid. But the thing is now that I listen to a lot obscure post metal where you cannot tell what they are yelling most of the time, and it doesn't matter. To me that how "mumble" rap is. Listen, I get it, rap purists are the way they are because rap started mostly being very lyrical and if that's all you've listened to and all you know, of course you're gonna care more about lyrics and their audibility more than anything else. But I personally don't give a shit, that's not my perspective. I don't care about lyrics unless they're like so audibly corny that I can't take it, but to me music has always been more about the sound. The voice is just another instrument and I don't need to be listening to an audio book every time I listen to music, to me it's about the MUSIC.
Lyrics are always more important dawg. ESPECIALLY rap & metal
@@21YearOldLonerVirgin you haven't listened to a lot of post metal then
@@21YearOldLonerVirginIMHO, I think that's why most of these kids are getting dumber. They are more focused on vibes than understanding. Lyrics are more important but the music is supposed to keep you listening
Old heads fell off then gate keepers got mad and media can’t control the main vibes anymore. Thats the cause.
Tony Montana Had Drake on The remix and was Prod By Lex Luger
Ryan Leslie released gibberish in 2009
"Musical revieweres" is a meme. I dont need you to eat my food smh
The world is changing so fast we just get used to taking in new things, back then, the same thing would go on for 20 years and nobody would really care, now that humanity got so far in new stuff in like, 15 years, we know that its gonna change, so why care?
stickerbush, nah you're the goat