The Comics Journal issue 152, August 1992 Part 1

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  • Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
  • Finally! A Comics Journal Episode! Our longest, deepest episode to date. In fact, the original video files were so massive that technical limitations prevented extra imagery to be included throughout the show this time around but there are plenty of comics to show off throughout.
    Just a few things to expect this issue:
    The origins of the Comics Journal (addendum to the broadcast: Fantagraphics bought the Nostalgia Journal and repackaged it as the New Nostalgia Journal, before settling on The Comics Journal.)
    Learn about the creation of the direct market and how Diamond became a monopoly. Phil Seuling anyone?
    Image comics is a month or two old and has taken 2nd place in the comic book market!
    A quick bit about Neil Gaiman's Sandman.
    Frank Young compares the earliest Golden Age nonsense with the new Image comics of 1992
    Darcy Sullivan cuts promos on the Les Daniels book about Marvel's 50 year history
    Rich Kreiner on the post-modern nature of Grant Morrison's Doom Patrol series
    and the headlining main event Todd McFarlane vs. Gary Groth in a steel cage match interview that spans dozens and dozens of pages.
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    Supporting links for later viewing/listening:
    Gary Groth at the Sydney Opera House talking about the history of Fantagraphics
    • Gary Groth: the Sydney...
    Bud Plant's history in his own words:
    • Bud Plant, Bud Plant &...
    • Comic Shop Event at Fl...
    *The 1969 comicon photo with legend to associates names with the faces (Thanks Chris Pitzer) www.fantucchio....
    Phil Seuling on the Mike Douglas show in the mid-70s, before Mylar comic bags existed!
    • Red Sonja (Wendy Pini)...
    15 yr old Frank Miller Fanzine work.
    www.bleedingco...
    About 2/3 of the McFarlane/Groth interview is online in mp3 format!!!!!
    classic.tcj.com...
    Read the complete interview here:
    www.tcj.com/tha...
    Red's Tube Bar tapes: • Video
    Ed Piskor's comic strip about the Tube Bar tapes: boingboing.net...
    Howard Stern interviews the Tube Bar callers: • Video
    Dan Clowes talking about Shut Up, Little Man...
    vimeo.com/chan...
    *Jim Blanchard's Park Grubbs tapes documentary:
    vimeo.com/1208...
    Seinfeld on the Buddy Rich tapes: • Seinfeld & The Buddy R...
    ----The actual Buddy Rich tapes: • Video
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Комментарии • 51

  • @abh623
    @abh623 5 месяцев назад +1

    This episode's amazing! Great comments from Ed and Jim, and that ending is why CK's one of the best YT comic channels. Really missing Ed now. "RIP, Ed Piskor!!"

  • @lanepianta3624
    @lanepianta3624 6 месяцев назад +4

    A classic breakdown by a team that has been shattered forever. RIP, Ed Piskor!!

  • @eubiecat
    @eubiecat 5 лет назад +26

    I'm delighted that you spent a lot of time on one of "my" Comics Journals, and focused on my review of "All-Star Comics!" I wrote that Rudolph Ising obituary. He was an important pioneer in American animation, and deserved a longer than average recap of his achievements. I worked my ass off on these issues, so it's nice to get some props, almost three decades later... best, Frank Young

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  5 лет назад +4

      Thanks for your hard work, Frank! Also, Mike Catron let us know that Shuster died like the day before the issue went to press and wanted us to know the next issue had a more substantial Shuster piece. haha

  • @cookiemadison8529
    @cookiemadison8529 5 лет назад +26

    Love that we're 30 minutes in and we still on the contents page!!

  • @danielw3850
    @danielw3850 5 лет назад +51

    Hey guys in the future please consider more comics journal episodes, this was amazing.

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  5 лет назад +7

      We appreciate your dedication to the show. Now matter what coast you're on it's pretty late :)

    • @danielw3850
      @danielw3850 5 лет назад

      @@CartoonistKayfabe Oops, caught me!

    • @brianarrington4569
      @brianarrington4569 3 года назад

      @@CartoonistKayfabe hey what book was that that you said the Marvel method the kiddie Hustle?

  • @timothybarnett1006
    @timothybarnett1006 5 лет назад +10

    Good to see Richard Case getting some love for his work on Doom Patrol. His clarity in storytelling is what makes the series still work 30 years on, and his development from the start of the run to it's conclusion is fantastic. Whilst it's technically true of any collaboration in comics it's one of the few Morrison runs that doesn't involve Frank Quietly that you simply cannot refer to as anything else but 'Morrison/Case' .

  • @marcomah
    @marcomah 5 лет назад +12

    Squeak the mouse is totally bizzarre to see for someone that grew up on Mattioli's child friendly work like Pinky for "il giornalino" a super catholic and parents approved weekly comic magazine.
    Mattioli was pretty much one of the founding father of italian underground comics, he started the magazine cannibale with Tamburini (you guys know him for RanXerox probably)
    Love everything you guys are doing on this channel, if you ever need any info on italian comics and cartoonists just know that there is at least one italian kayfaber watching

  • @TerryParr
    @TerryParr 5 лет назад +2

    I worked for Lone Star Comics 10 years ago. Met Buddy once and his wife Judy interviewed me for the job. Nice people. Had no clue about his fanzine.

  • @xcornmuffinx
    @xcornmuffinx 5 лет назад +6

    I've been waiting for this! I'm glad I didn't have to fight a Comics Journal on a pole match for it after all those swerves.
    You guys are absolutely right, Wizard would definitely be an Apter mag.
    This was a great episode, can't wait for the second half.

  • @connormccann8990
    @connormccann8990 5 лет назад +5

    this episode was great. i hope you guys keep covering TCJ issues after this !

  • @tonyfrickey9062
    @tonyfrickey9062 3 года назад +4

    The direct market: the savior and destroyer of the comic industry...

  • @christwhitewolf
    @christwhitewolf Год назад

    Just when you think you now some shit you learn that you got more shit to learn. Well done. Thank you.

  • @heavysystemsinc.
    @heavysystemsinc. Год назад +1

    McFarlane vs. Groth is Magneto sitting down to talk with Xavier about humanity and the mutants place among them.

  • @robertullman4217
    @robertullman4217 5 лет назад +2

    I read this when it came out and I had a very similar reaction to that lead editorial. I'm a little older (47) and it just kinda crystallized my feelings on the Image stuff, Wizard Magazine, and the burgeoning "collector's market", in general. It was kinda the moment when I completed my turn into a comics snob, and eschewed most mainstream and cape stuff for over a decade.

  • @jonrenzella7281
    @jonrenzella7281 2 года назад

    This was awesome. I've been working through all the Wizard episodes and was glad to see this in the mix (my first Wizard was #45, excited to see it up!). You have to get Todd and Gary back on the same episode!

  • @mikeledger2614
    @mikeledger2614 5 лет назад +1

    Great episode, damn, your talks on comics is mind blowing...so much perspective

  • @culturefan
    @culturefan 5 лет назад

    Incredible amount of info, you dug deep on this one, and I thoroughly enjoyed it. Thanks, and more please.

  • @gabrieljimenez9762
    @gabrieljimenez9762 5 лет назад

    Holy crap man, such an informative video. Just barely past the 25 minute mark and feel like Ive learned quite a lot. Fantastic.

  • @firdawesome3203
    @firdawesome3203 5 лет назад +1

    I've been looking forward to this all last week. Beyond PSYCHED

  • @KretchWretch
    @KretchWretch 5 лет назад +1

    This is a GREAT video, thank you so much, guys! Ed, when you mentioned that Gary hates Marvel, I couldn't help but wonder if he had anything funny to say about your great Grand Design work, lol.

  • @amirmalekpour4316
    @amirmalekpour4316 5 лет назад +4

    I’m strapping my seatbelt on ready to go, even though I’m in Paris and I don’t think they require seatbelts.

  • @leestevenson80
    @leestevenson80 5 лет назад +8

    When is Kayfabe Publishing starting then?

  • @williamibanez394
    @williamibanez394 5 лет назад

    That was quite a ride! Can't wait for part 2!

  • @markinnes4264
    @markinnes4264 5 лет назад

    I have that first Squeak The Mouse... I had no idea a second came out. Extreme Tom and Jerry !

  • @querldox
    @querldox 5 лет назад +3

    in South Africa we only got a proper comic shop in 1993 and by 1994 there 3! none of them still going but we have quite a few stores nowadays.

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  5 лет назад

      Do you have a website url for your favorite shop? Show it off here

    • @querldox
      @querldox 5 лет назад +2

      @@CartoonistKayfabe sadly my fav stores are no longer with us. the stores we have now are all investment/CGC/variant mad so would rather not support that shit.
      (RIP Zed Bee's Comic Universe)
      *pours some out
      *half smoked joint on the coffin
      *pound

  • @genemiller3070
    @genemiller3070 2 года назад

    New comment on an old but great video but FYI , you can pickup Squeak the Mouse on pre-order from Fantagraphics or on Amazon for $30. Releases April 12, 2022 .

  • @dMARR0
    @dMARR0 5 лет назад

    i used to have a VHS copy of a copy of a copy of red- suuper cool to get some background on that

  • @JasonHammonsismyname
    @JasonHammonsismyname 5 лет назад

    God this feels good. Been waiting for it.

  • @TommyTwoSocks
    @TommyTwoSocks 5 лет назад

    “The one character Danny the Street, hes a transvestite street, hes kind of their headquarters” is an excellent description.

  • @TomChansky
    @TomChansky 5 лет назад +1

    Really digging this look into something else (although I still love the Wizard retrospectives!). Does this mean you guys are going to look at the first issue of Hero when you get to it?

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  5 лет назад +2

      It's possible. Jim and Ed both have complete sets of Hero Illustrated in their collections so...

  • @theswan1852
    @theswan1852 2 года назад

    1:45 It's true. I love Morrison's foreshadowing (Batman & Robin Must Die!) and his dense cryptic mysteries, but I often fall asleep through the resolution. I don't know how 7 Soldiers ends. I read it. I'm not sure who William Hurt is exactly except for a half dozen really bad things that Morrison published before deciding where it would go.

  • @AllOfTheRestWillFlow
    @AllOfTheRestWillFlow 5 лет назад

    In the masthead credits, it mentions that a Greg Stolze is the interview transcriber. That must be the guy who would go on to be a legendary game designer in the tabletop RPG industry. I had no idea he worked for Fantagraphics.

  • @aentreri00
    @aentreri00 2 года назад

    The fact that you and I read the PWJ, played guns outside, watched Red Dawn, and never did anything violent should tell you that PWJ is not the problem. Mental health is the problem.

  • @oddObjekt
    @oddObjekt 5 лет назад +2

    Monthly floppies may be on their way or at least in a decline until someone figures out how to get kids into them again but I think its important to remember that the medium of comics isn't going anywhere.

  • @nicholassmart4790
    @nicholassmart4790 Год назад

    The Zulus are from South Africa, if anyone's curious.

  • @officegossip
    @officegossip 2 года назад

    Todd's promo about image comics and how he wants to do things his way is as punk as it gets.