Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Unboxing & Inspecting the Freshly Ground Mill Table
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- Опубликовано: 11 авг 2022
- Horizontal Boring Mill Restoration: Unboxing & Inspecting the Freshly Ground Mill Table
I received the table for my Lucas Model 31 Horizontal Boring Mill back from Kinetic Company after having it precision ground flat on the top and also the ways on the bottom ground parallel to the top. In this video, we will unbox it and take a look at how great of a job Kinetic did!
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LOL, I like the term "ringleader" I do have a great team working with me on many of these projects and keeping all the gear running in the shop. It is great to see this coming together, another small box just went out today.
Thanks for taking your time to create this video🤗😎🤗😎
Just discovered your channel today, wow, nice to see people who know about these things! I was a scaper hand in my 20's , for about 6 years. First in Cleveland Ohio rebuilding mostly Warner and Swasey turret lathes, then scraping new DoAll surface grinders in Mn,, also rebuilding, scraping, and alignment at Midwestern Machinery in Minneapolis. At DoAll, Turkite was installed as an option instead of regular scraped ways on the table ways, we had a high opinion of Turkite at the time, it was easy to scrape to a good bearing surface, We tested each new machine for accuracy and tried to keep 2 to 3 tenths the full length and width of the surface, largest we made was 10"×30". Still have my scraping tools, blue paste, and red lead!
Like a kid on Christmas opening a much anticipated new toy.
My Uncle retired from Kinetic, and I grew up a mile down the road from there. Pretty cool
A kinetic shop tour would be cool!
Hey Keith! To mark your lift chain on chain fall. If you paint every 18” or so, with red and green stripes. With green on bottom and red on top on down side. All way the length of the loop. The quick look, green shows the way to pull /what chain to pull for lift or lower! As green on bottom for down! Green above for lift and red will be wrong way! Had to do this because employees never know what chain to pull !
If you cut two identical pieces of bar (anything that will fit in the t-slots. You can space the "eye" bolts pretty accurately and pick the table up so that it is perfectly level. It also prevents the bolts from sliding together which would cause an accident. On a table this small it isn't that important. But some of the horizontals that I work on have tables big enough to set a full size pickup truck on. And those you need to make damn sure that you are picking it up evenly and securely.
Always a fantastic day when Mr. Keith brings us into the shop! Thank you for letting us take this journey with you!
Your reaction when the table landed home gave me a chuckle, only people like us would find joy in this. Looking forward to the Turcite.
Lovely job on that grinding, it must be exciting for you to see the progress Keith.
The grinding looks good thanks for sharing
Everything looks great.
Thanks Keith for sharing!
Looks great !
Most excellent.
Round trip shipping from GA to WI plus the grinding - that has to cost a LOT of money! But this machine will be good for another 80 years!
I've gotten really good rates by calling up moving companies and asking them if they had any incomplete loads on trucks going my way. They love to fill up space and make a bit more money.
With the care Keith and guys like him give these machines, they could easily last hundreds of years.
All it takes is a little love and attention.
I always enjoy un-boxing videos and this one did not disapoint. Thanks Keith.
I think you were happy to get that on Keith.😂🤣😅
Thanks Keith
Nice work Keith. Your videos are always interesting. Thanks!
Thanks for sharing 👍
Thank you for sharing.👍👀
Looks nice.
Keith,
It is great to have a channel that shows, ( in detail), such work on large machinery.
Thank you for taking the extra time and effort to produce these videos.
Regards
Robert
Keith, having surplus lumber is usually a good thing. I helped do a clean out of a business, and gathered up a very nice bunch of lumber, including some poplar that was milled around WW2. It was done then as most pine or construction woods were used for the military, and softer material often got used like this poplar.
I used most of this lumber to put shelves up in my shop, so the only things I hD to buy were screws for the assembly. It's so nice to have my stuff up off the floor. the roof leaks, so this is also a good thing.
Great video Keith, keep'um coming..
I had to chuckle over how excited you got over the table when you “mocked” it up😂
After hearing you talk about them, I had Kinetic do a job for me. I just this month picked up my 1955 South Bend 9A lathe bed. They did a great regrind job on it and also located and drilled the holes necessary for the taper attachment locating pins which were missing on my saddle. As I live just outside Chicago, I was able to deliver the lathe bed myself and later pick it up when they finished. It's a three-footer, so I can lift it myself. A side benefit is Bendtsen's bakery, which is in Racine, between Chicago and Milwaukee, which makes excellent Danish kringle. I recommend the almond and the pecan.
There are always many oohs and aahs when ever something comes back from the grinding house. This is one such case. If you are like me, you almost hate to put anything on it for fear of scratching it. Looking forward to seeing it scraped in and placed on the machine.
Thanks for the video, Kieth. I learn something new with almost every one of your videos. See you at the next Bar-Z. Jon
@21:45. Thank you Keith for the opportunity to watch and learn along the way.
Keith I sure am enjoying the restoration ......Thanks from Warner Robins GA!!!!!!
You are expert
Thanks for another great learning experience. I’ve heard of Turcite but never seen it used. Looking forward to seeing how that works.
He also has it on the saddle of his lathe.
So none of our business Keith, but curiosity killed the cat, hopefully satisfaction will bring it back.
How much would your scraping and the grinding be in dollar amount? What would a brand new machine run in comparison? Would a new machine be of same, better or worse quality as this old baby?
Great videos on its progress and your ability and attention to the details. It's like watching paint dry......and I'm a professional painter, I love it!
A new lucas that size is about $120k
Nice grinding job on that table Keith!
I don't know why this is the best content on youtube.
Indeed it is.
It is honest and real for starters!
Called Kinetic and it was about $1500 for a south bend lathe 3ft bed. There's also Shaefer Grinding in Los Angeles area
If you're in LA, round trip shipping to Milwaukee would be prohibitive I think! Grinding sounds reasonable so it might be a tough call.
Almost makes rebuilding cost prohibited if reselling lathes. Need to get your own Thompson grinder.
Keith is such a rugged guy that I half expect him to just pick this stuff up 🤣
Of course! you can use the bed you just had ground super accurate to 10,000th of an inch... I was thinking in previous episodes it would be one of his straight edges, maybe that arc collomomator thing I could do with a refresh watch on how to use it. But the bed never thought of that and I remember the planer bed episode being ground down so precise. That's out of the box thinking to me.
Nice ! --- What's going on with the Jimmy DiResta bandsaw ?
And the Stoker engine?
@@garybrenner6236 I believe this HBM is what will be used on the Stoker Engine.
Big boys, big parcels...
Nice to have such friends/contacts doing such jobs.
Time 10:30, lowering the precious table.... I suppose You cleaned all surfaces involved thoroughly.... Being hot, "honey", on things is not Your way I think...
Time 11:00. Which chain to pull...... I know the problem..... Ought to have been solved. Why not have a kind of spreader keep the two chains apart?
Scrape the top side? Scrape the precise work of Your collaborators? Due to the bed scraping I suppose.
You signed off with a warm smile that travels out to us. Looking forward to the next part of this work.
Hi Keith, Didn't you have a job for the boring mill??? Oh rebuilding it is the job. Nice work by Cash again. A Fan from Aus.
Pretty sure this entire channel is rebuilding a machine to rebuild a machine to rebuild a machine to .... finally ... machine that stoker engine.
@@andrewshelley410 I was wondering about the steam stoker myself. Been awhile since I saw any videos on that.
think you need to let it hit the ways again Keith....😉😉
Another great video - fairly new follower. I watched the whole series with the 48” bandsaw - but it didn’t seem to get finished. Am I missing the videos or is it still in progress?
I’d love to see the machine big enough to grind such a large part.
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I would put some paper between the table and the wood to prevent rust.
Willingness to use your own money to purchase a product is the only meaningful endorsement.
All the other endorsements are just hot air.
Best of luck to you and yours.
Where do you purchase your turcite and adhesives?
How much did it cost to have the table ground top and bottom?
TELL EVERYBODY HELLO, PET THE CATS AND DOGS, LOOKS GREAT, LET'S GO TO WORK...
Hello Mr Rucker. It is in your plans to return to the Stoker Engine? Thank you in advance!
I'm surprised at you Keith, putting tools on your granite surface plate.
2:50 sand it up? .. that's like $20 worth of pine just the lid! :)
How much does that table weigh? It’s a big chunk of iron.
How much for that grinding job? $6k maybe?
I don't remember him offering that type of information. Probably best if you got your own quote.
I would be concerned picking up such a heavy casting by the T slots. You would definitely hate yourself if a T nut busted out. I would
remove the crate sides, pry up from underneath on a non ground surface and secure a pair of traps under it at the far ends. Less risk
slinging it from underneath.
Those are shackles
You should really use gloves when pulling that banding from around a pallet. If it gets caught on something, you could slice your hand wide open, it happened to a friend of mine years ago he got 8 or 10 stitches from it.
If I may presume to ask, why would you scrape the work surface? It seems to me there are two purposes for scraping: 1. to make the surface flat, and 2. to hold way oil in use. This isn't a way surface, so there is no need to hold oil, and it should already be ground flat. But I would think the ground surface will make it easier to move workpieces and holding clamps around on that table. I get that you want to use the top of the table as a surface plate to check the ways, but shouldn't you at least test the surface for flatness before deciding to scrape it? If they already ground it within a few tenths, can't you just blue it up like it is?
That's a lot of surface area to scrape, overkill in my opinion. Sure, it would be great to have another reference surface but he
already has that huge granite surface plate. I bet when he's half way into scraping that, he has second thoughts and sore muscles.
Since they were grinding ti why not weld those ugly endmill marks someone put ?
I need to pay better attention. I didn't catch what beauty show this was going to enter?
Not only that. It will be a very cold day in Hell that Mr. Rucker welds cast iron.
I thought that too, he could have brazed in some silicon bronze but maybe that effects how stable the flatness remains.
@@petemclinc
Welds dont warp the cast iron . Key to sucessfull welding of cast iron is to use a electrode of similaror lower tensile strength.If you dont do that weld pulls the surrounding material and cracks in once good cast iron appears , Cast iron is like a glass,its brittle ,it doesnt like to be pulled alot . Thats why its always smart idea to preheat the cast iron and let it slowly cool down even if you use silver nickle electrodes.
No need to grind that table if you want to scrap the top and add turcite on the bottom. I would have just send out to make an accurate milling on a large machine tool...and save some money. Scratching the surface before epoxy the turcite is strongly recommended.
Thank goodness you still have a job to pay for all this. I don't think your little odd jobs would come close to covering all these costs...
Why would you choose to make such a rude and impertinent comment??