I just wanted to look after my bro on behalf of Mom, but.. [Hello Counselor Sub: ENG,THA/2018.05.21]
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Hello Counselor EP.365
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I want her to go on holiday for a week or smth so this brat will realise how much he relies on her and hopefully will appreciate her more!
Baako Jernigan the best comment out there
PERIODT
he's still a teen get over it
stop calling him brat
what if he kylls himself?
@@wangzihao.where tf did u get kills himself from
Me personally I don’t think he needs to be called a brat
but she literally did nothing wrong.... why did they make her apologize for feeding and caring for her family ??? she’s a high schooler, too. im sure she has to take so much time away from studying to help her family. this show seriously shortens my life span sometimes
brieisbored Although she's the breadwinner and caretaker of the family, in taking over the mom role, she is also in the wrong in bc she unknowingly became overbearing. Indeed, loving and caring for someone means what it means: making food, doing things or chores for them, protecting them. At the same time, love also means giving that person their own space. Her brother sees her as someone who is telling him what to do all the time and handling all his personal business at school for him rather than, being a sister to listen and to support him. In loving and caring, we think we are supposed to provide everything. Loving and caring also means learning to step back and allowing your loved one to fall and grow on their own. The sad thing about this is that she is still a kid and still growing into her own person, but she had to grow up faster and take the role of the mom bc she had to. The father isn't wrong when he says that she can barely take care of herself. Well duh she's still a kid. Bc she's a kid having to act as an adult, this is why things have become what they have become. I don't blame the bro for saying that it seems like an act. He sees thru it, but he's still young and doesn't understand it bc he's the fav of the family, being a boy, lucky him (bro is so spoiled). Now I'm not taking the men's side. It is poor parenting on the dad's part. He should be the adult. Unfortunately, he's having troubles of his own. They all are, they all have their issues, especially during this time when their family is falling apart. They do not know how to rely on each other. They only know how to rely on themselves, closing themselves off from each other, and blaming each other more.
She's a kid.
He did say that his older sister teases his weight. Puberty is pretty much that stage where you care most about your looks and get depressed by it. So every one of them had faults.
She should stay with her mother and leave these two ungrateful boys
@@iris-dp8wx i agree i hate these types of bledy people like a father like a son ...😤
"How many hours?"
"5 hours"
" *shocked* that's a long time!"
Me: Well, hahaha...haha...haaaaa... *silently turns off my phone*
(Edit: Thanks for the likes guys!\(*^*)/ I didn't expect to get this much likes, I'm so happy T_T)
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8:34 Shin Dong yup is great .. every time a guest have a breakdown on the set he knows how to cheer them and make them smile .. for me he is the best host in Korea his sense of humour and way to handle things is best.
The father and brother are bitter about the mother leaving and they're taking it out on the poor girl, the father is clearly biased because he's a boy, and seems to care less for his daughter because she reminds him of his ex wife, this is only going to get worse as the little brother gets older and might end up getting physical with her because he feels like he can...
I hate it when ppl/adults say 'you should get along with everyone' you didn't listen to him and assumed they were fighting for no reason
when he said that she should only cook for him, im surprised no one said anything about that being like considering her a servant/maid
there's so much sexism in south korea, it breaks my heart. I hope the girl will be treated better from now on.
"it's understandable to beat a kid for a punishment, but isn't it wrong to pour coffee on a child?" sometimes it's hard to understand korean culture's logic
I can feel her. I'm crying for her. My condition is worse but, I'm glad she can talk it out.
If they didn’t change. I hope she’s makes enough and just leave home like her mom tbh.
I can relate to her. I lost my dad to cancer when I was in sixth grade. I always like that my mom only cared about my sister but not me. However all I want to say is that she needs to be strong and never give up on anything.
As an elder sister, I know her feeling. She laugh when her heart broken. My situation little similiar like her. I give all my effort to my family but they never understand me. Even hurt my hearth with their words. Just my youngest sister understand me.
I think she must thinking about herself than her family. Leave their family before her heart more broken than this time. I know my opponion is strange.
I have my youngest sister who understand my feeling. So I can stand in my situation now. But she did not have person who understand her in her family. I afraid that she cant recieve her situation in future and do somethink bad for herself.
And why she must beg forgiveness?
The boy: *crying*
Everyone: *screaming* -
*HE’S GOING THROUGH PUBERTY* ....
How did it only get 125 votes?!?! She deserves 200!
I wish people would understand that the mom left 1 year ago. They are all really hurt and i can tell because of resentment towards their mom they are taking it on the daughter who probably is a constant reminder of the mom. They need alot of therapy
Her looks kinda reminds me of Pristin Nayoung and Shin Ryujin
It's like me because, I always tell my brother to eat because, he is skinny. I call him a walking stick a lot, and sometimes he cries about it. He is always on the computer, and when my mom and dad tells him that it's time to go, or he needs to eat, he ends up screaming at them. And, one time my brother got a credit card, and I said "Daddy, I am older, can you give me a credit card?" then he said "No because, your brother is a male. You are a female." Then we started fighting.
Your dad is weird as hell for saying that, but you shouldn’t call your brother a walking stick. My mom would used to say stuff to me about my body because I’m skinny too. And it just affected me mentally and made me insecure when she said I would fade away and all that. I agree he should eat though.
The best present for children is a loving dad and mom. Children are innocent. Haiz...
I feel sorry for both of them.
But my heart goes out to the brother. He is young and doesn't know how to deal. Give him space and approach him more like a friend or sister not like a mother.
I too don't want anyone or my family to interfere in my business and if i feel like they should know i will let them know. I'm the elder one but still i relate with the brother.
Omg she is such an mature girl. I would never been able to take care of these assholes. im so impressed by her patience. I hope she leaves these fucks just like her wise mother did.
Even tho I dont get that "Im proud of you" phrase from my dad, I always felt that he is so proud of what I do...because of this concern, I became greatful of what I have in my life.
Korean society think when an teenager acting like this it is because of puberty? I went to that stage but i never treated my parents or siblings like that.
3:15 that was really a good idea 💕
Honestly they’re both not at fault. It’s the dad. He’s a bad father. And I think everyone knows why.
Out of context but she’s really beautiful
I meant I feel her when his dad say" you just like your mom"
Meanwhile me :
Mom: you just like your dad
Dad: you just like your mom
I am sick of life , i don't have others to be by my sides
starlight sya dw...I don’t know you so well, but I’ll be by your side! Don’t give up please. It’s like this, but don’t give up. Just think of it this way. You are like your dad and mom because you have 23 pairs of chromosomes from both parents lol. I dunno haha, usually I think like this so ya
I know wht it feels like to have a disconnected family and a broken family. My mom passed away when I was 16 and after that my family really just fought everyday, esp btw me and my older brother. Actually I really envy the brother cuz his sister and dad loves him dearly, ofcourse there are fighting but after all she really really loves him. I never really could share anything with my father and brother at all, and I had a lot of problems at school and I was really lonely. they just make sure to provide me a place to live and food everyday, and my brother threatens me study well. Other than that they don't care how depressed I am ever. Bc of this coldness from them I always lagged in doing housework and just end up being yelled and hit at by my brother and we just hate each other more. Now we just end up being separated, all of us in different places and barely communicate. I know someday I will move back with my father and be close to him but I don't think I will ever really fix things with my brother. Ofcourse I will have to be responsible as a sister when he needs me but I really can't talk to him
I was in the same case with this girl. I even feel like she was me coming in there. I am crying for her. My little brother treat me like this too. And sometimes he punch or kick me.
it's unfair. Obviously the father never compliments her and had pampered the brother too much that he turned egoistic towards his sister. I'm amazed by the daughter's big heart, she shouldn't be guilty for anything instead, she should be appreciated since she's done everything for her family. The brother should be siding the sister to withstand their problematic father and their relatives. I hope the brother would protect his sister the next time.
0:41 loool what's his bf doing?
lilililianeee chua i was going to comment about him lol
ಠ_ಠ ಠ_ಠ same 😂
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lilililianeee chua 😂😂 if u look carefully he's talking to her, i went back bcs i didnt know what to think too 😂 he's handsome 😆
AJ true 😂
If the brother and the father are treating her like shit and not appreciating her effort then I think she should go and live with her mother instead of living with them tow. Then they will realise how much she has done for them
I kinda feel sorry for the sister though I think It remind me of my sister who take care of me when my mom is away we were quiet close then but after I hit puberty I don't talk to her much and now I miss my sis I miss my mom aswell I hope that one day they will bond together as a family
The sister shouldn't be the one cooking for them, it should be the dad. Because the sister says she is trying to act like a mom, but a real mom wouldn't curse at her son just because he did it to her, she forgets being a mom and ends up acting like a sister that curses back. So i think she should just be a sister and leave him alone, and the Dad should step up
My younger brother doesnt call me Ate (filipino term for noona/eonnie) since he was a kid. He's already 11 years old and never heard him called me like that. He even act like he's the eldest tho but my parents didn't do nothing. Well, i don't expect them to make an action bc they always favor in him always. HAHAHAHAHAHA
puberty what? idk man i live in a house in which there is no thing as puberty 😂😂
Hey, just out of curiosity, on the part where the boy mentions the cuss words that he uses, I know the first one is Shibal, the last one is Dak Cheo. What was the second cuss word? (Notice I did not write the korean words in hangul, to not offend Koreans, if you speak Korean and can read English/Romaji, I am so sorry that I have offended you. I’m just curious)
Why no one is talking about the part when Yeongja said ,,it's understandable to beat your child as a punishment,but it's not ok to pour a coffee, ,??!!! Wtf. It's child abuse.
This is my brother right now
I don’t get how hitting each other is ok but cussing at each other is not when I was a kid I was told we can cuss it out but we’re not aloud to make it physical
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Wtf, I got so shook when I saw dem tears.
First of all i think both siblings are at fault the sister shouldnt phone his friends and try to sort things out thats for him to handle both shouldnt swear or be respectful and the mother fair enough she left but still have contact with ur children because now the sister is having to act like shes the mother and clearly the brother isnt used to that because she probably acts like a child her self so he doesnt see her in such a figure
Little brother looks like Park Jihoon when he was little
Lol I was at the point where I hated everyone I still do💀but I never disrespect someone older than me like that
in KOREA..
PUBERTY IS JUST AN EXCUSE FOR HAVING A BAD BEHAVIOUR..
Yeaay a Wonju girl 😇
Le tienen muy consentido por ser el niño ni siquiera lo siente,debería darle una leccion y el padre la ignora completamente seguro esta esperando a que se case y se vaya
Is it common amongst Koreans to prefer sons to daughters? It must be sad to be a daughter in such a family. Parents should practise fairness & give equal love to all of their children so that they'll grow up into confident adults who will in turn practise fairness to their own children. Being a Singaporean, I'm blessed to be born as the only daughter to my parents as I feel loved despite having 2 elder brothers with me. There's no practice of favouritism in my family. Everyone has a share of the household chores.
Puberty sucks. You'll feel moody and your body is changing a lot.. but I think it's more than puberty.. He's so harsh to her.
As a eldest sister myself, I can imagine her pain being disrespected by her younger sibling for caring for him. He's just being ungrateful 😞
I don't know if your parents are still together but I experienced it and even if the older sister thinks it's the good thing to act like his mother I don't think she should... When my parents split up my sister ( I have one older sister and one younger brother ) tried to take my father "place" and she thought she could have authority on me and my brother but from my point of vue, we are born as siblings so we should have the same place. Taking care of him is really sweet of her but going behind this line and trying to act as she has something to tell him about his life with his friend or correct his behavior is not something she is in the right place to do. But don't get me wrong the brother HAVE TO respect his sister i'm just saying that they both should treat eachover as equal... (Sorry for my english i'm french...)
Black And White Well in his eyes she's being mean plus he's really going through puberty.
Black And White my brother disrespects me a lot but even he knows his limits! I love my brother but also tease him and we Amy swear at times but he knows when to stop.... especially when I care for him! He usually takes care after me when I’m on the my time of the month and listens to my rant of crying about life....
Ummmh Yeahhh well you have a nice brother
It's true that both of them are in the wrong, but I think that its more of a matter when she started acting like this and wanting to step a little into the role of mom. If it was the last couple of years then it's obvious why he rebels even though it shouldn't be that harsh. If you go most of your life one way, and then suddenly someone starts trying to act as your mom it can be unbearable. Plus he's almost 15...I would have hated that when I was that age. I'm an older sister but I got lucky me n my brother have always seen more eye to eye.
everyone seems to be missing the point: Why did mom leave? bet dad treats the daughter just like he did his wife. And little brother learned to be disrespectful from watching his dad do it to his wife all his life. Misogyny is truly a disease and the Dad is a classic case. Every time his daughter has a request he follows back with a "well what about me". Maybe it is time to live on your own or just stop taking care of them, you are not the wife and mother, she left for what I am sure is a pretty good reason. Just because they are family doesnt mean you should allow them to be toxic towards you.
MsJackson1330 I would have to disagree because the mother cut off ties with her kids too, so she probably didn't want to be one or handle the responsibilities that come with it. Also, it is not entirely the brothers. He is just just acting out because she is trying to act like a mother, when she is just his sister.
nah. This seems like an immature reason reason to just leave 3 of the most important people in your life. If this is the case, what the wife should do is to try and work things out with them.
lol I agree, some people give opinion it's because puberty, sister too involve, etc. But if you watching video until end, I think the biggest problem is misogyny. That why brother cuss a lot, he have no respect toward sister. Same with father.
In korea when couples divorce I heard it was the norm for the kids to stay with the father since they are still on the family registry and thats not immature. a woman doesnt have to tolerant a toxic household. I feel bad that she left her children but how incompetent of a human must the husband have been for her to leave. korean women dont just get divorced. they stay even when abused physically and emotionally as evidenced by these concerns on HC throughout the years.
Max Tan If things were possible to be worked out, I don't think she would've had to leave. Persinally, I don't think any mother would want to leave her kids. Especially such a great daughter. The father must have been really bad, he probably didn't allow her to leave, but it was so bad that she had to get out of there. This is what I think. Also, if family problems could be worked out in the end and people would actually try listening to their family members concerns and complaints, then no one would leave and have conflicts like this.
I hate when I see concerns like this one where people prefer sons over daughters. I got so triggered when I heard her friend say how their relatives favorites the brother. I mean even the boy knows he's everyone's favorite not bc he's a good kid but bc he's a boy. I hope this kind of mindset changes for people in the future. Daughters are just as important.
crystal Yeah ikr, bc he knows that he's the fav, he thinks it's okay to disrespect his sister and probably females in general. I understand his point of view when the sister over steps the boundary, as shes not supposed to be the mom. But the brother treats her whatever he wants bc he sees the dad and family doing it. BC he's allowed to treat her that way, he thinks it okay and acceptable to do so. It'd easy for him to continue to be that way bc he knows that can get away with behaving like that.
i’m asian, and whenever i go other to my grandparents’ house, they made me wash all the dishes. id be okay if it’s an act of filial piety but no, their reason was that i’m a girl. because i’m a GIRL i’m supposed to wash all the dishes. the elders all favor my older brother more than me, they treat him different. it’s really angering but i guess i should get used to this lmfaoo
Agree.
If also depends on how strong and protective your parents are. On my mother side of family, all elders totally disregard gender and it’s all fine. While on my dad side of family, my grandma still prefer boys but too bad for her that my dad always want an only daughter so my grandparents cannot complain, my dad didn’t let them touch me. When my aunts rant about how I should do some tasks because I’m a girl and their kids are boys I can just bash them and order them to do the task themselves. my dad never stop me, which also cause my grandma to keep quiet as well.
Daughter's are usually the ones that take care of you in your old age, so maybe they should be valued as much as or more than boys.
Really puberty? Yeah he can cook for himself if he's "becoming a man" since the puberty word has been thrown out there so much as an excuse.
TRUTH!! It really baffles me why they make puberty as an excuse for such behavior! For us, puberty means becoming mature, learning to do things on our own & understanding what's happening around us. It's just bad behavior what he did to his sister.
Like a father like a son ....bad boy 😤
He is 14 and behaving like that ...... Puberty is just an excuse for this case. Maybe he is holding anger and sadness because of his mother. Its probably a family case. I dont think he is a bad kid tho.
Kpop lover I'm 14 and personally I don't act like that yeah so what if I'm going through puberty and my emotions are a roller coaster he should at least know how to control himself and think before speaking.
Lourdes Silverio true. I was 14 and i was not like that. I would ve in serious trouble if i did that. Wooow
**mya** imagine being like this at this age. Its ..... Idk i cant even find a word that would describe him. Thanks for pointing out his age tho. It makes it more worrisome.
**mya** i agree.
Yeah, all of their anger and frustration at each other seems to come from their own brokenness and sadness from within their own selves. Its hard for all of them. They don't know how to handle themselves, except expressing it to each other in anger and argument. It's unfortunate that they are unable to empathize with each other, by considering the other persons view, of their own actions that they are putting forth upon that other person. Bc of the situation they are in: not being in good financial conditions, the mom just left, them being a patriarchal family, that means the family's falling apart, they only know how to hold it in until they explode. And this makes everything worse! Where one word said triggers another without either recognizing such an endless, vicious cycle.
Puberty is not an excuse 😩😧
Thank you for saying that. It is the easy way out.
ranabhola I'm seeing this sort of comment a lot and can't help but think it must be coming from teenagers. Puberty is wreaks havoc on the body, including emotions.(Hormones anyone?) Soo many have no idea how awful they were until college at least. Add a spice of divorce, a sister trying to fill a position she shouldn't and trying to be something she can't, and you get a mess.
josie jeanlouis Do you even go to school?
Have you ever went through puberty? It felt like you're on a rollercoaster every single day, 24/7, and some who realized how severe they are hates it. But you can't change hormones and feelings, teenagers who are unlucky enough to realize how severe they are in puberty got no chance. If they try to change and act nice when they keep on surpressing their feelings due to their pubertal hormones, it may damage them psychologically in the long run. It may be true that it's not an 'excuse', but it sure is one hell of a real problem.
Puberty is not an excuse, it's just a matter controlling your emotions. If it's a valid excuse, just imagine how much will the students disrespect their teachers. And on the divorce part, I know it's hard but it's still not an excuse to disrespect other people.
it's weird, the whole "moody puberty" thing is always spoken about in a bunch of concerns?? like, not only on this show but korea in general? "they're probably sensitive because they're going through puberty" i UNDERSTAND that and lots of people do change emotionally during puberty, but it doesn't mean you should accept their attitude 100%.
just tell me why Ikr, puberty doesn't mean we listen to the kids and allow them to turn into brats. It is the time we discipline them. The time where we show them that they are not the ones in charge, bc they can't even think straight at this time in their life. Their egos are stretched beyond the limits! Puberty should be the time that we make sure we discipline our kids even if it's tough to refuse them. (Discipline them accordingly, of course, especially when they are crossing the line. Not discipline as in restricting them.) Respect and disrespect is a taught and learnt behavior.
IKR! They just accept these excuses for bad behaviour and don’t discipline their kids. I really don’t want to see how the society will be like when the younger generation now grow to be adults.
I think this concern is much deeper than just the boy is going through puberty. I think that the mother left just 1 year ago has something to do with his sadness. The sister shouldn't try to act like a mother to her brother. I understand she is trying to do her best but that is not her job. She is not the mother.
What is this father talking about??.. He said she takes good care of him and the brother. Jeeze!... She is neither a mother nor a wife. The father should be the one who takes care of the kids. He is the one who is lacking in responsibility and that create problems.
If she doesn't do it no one else in the family will. life isnt as fair as you make it seem. When a parent abandons their family, the older sibling always has to grow up faster than they should have to or they watch their siblings and remaining parent fall into a shit hole. This family is very male superior oriented so I'm sure neither of them would clean/cook for themselves if she didnt. Plus she is their only source of income at the moment. Life isn't as easy when your parent abandons you and leaves one single especial in a poor situation. She has a younger sibling and a father who can't work due to health issues. She cant leave them homeless and her brother to grow up with no family member to talk to as the dad said himself he's not good at expressing or talking. Again can't just drop family when you love them and you are a caring/non-selfish
I get what you are saying but still, I don't buy it. If she would not do it. Hunger would make you do it. I understand that the father currently is not able to work because of his surgery and I can accept that she is helping until her father can return to work. .I can also accept that she continues to help the family with a small amount of money after father starts to work.But that was not really what I reacted to
I reacted to that she take a role as a mother and that the father seems quite a weak person. She is carrying too heavy responsibility on her young shoulders and she doesn't feel any support from her father. That's why they are on this show. The family may be male superior but we don't need to accept it. That is just my opinion. I, my self grew up in a similar environment. A mother who left and I was left with my father.
I feel sorry for this girl but I feel also sorry for this young brother. I believe the problem here is much bigger and deeper than what with get to know. It can't be been easy for them when their mother left them.
Kyuri true
Merya L I think sister being a mother is not bad after all my sister take care of me since I was a kid and she is like my second mom. My mom is always busy and she is always not home. Now everything change my sister now love in the village with my mom and now I am lack of mothers love I get jealous those who has a mom next to them so they could celebrate mothers day but I cant. So I am taking his sister's side. I have no offense toward anything you say and this is not my opinion this is what I go through now my mom is not with me(including my sister) for 3 straight years now.
i'm sure she doesn't want to play such a role at a young age too. but she just felt bad that her brother is going through puberty without a mom and that's honestly very tough and difficult.
just my personal opinion, no hate.
The thing that got me so mad is not the cursed words but she clearly not being appreciated with all the things she has done.. its really hard to grow up when ur parents seperated.. She's trying so hard because shes worried dat her bro will grow up not hving mothers care.. she clearly holding a lot of pain alone.. shes helping his dad, i really hope 1 day her bro will understand her n her dad appreciate her more..
Sweet Potato same
I am also an elder sister. If my 3 Lil brothers ever did that to me. I would smack them.
Same here.
What a Queen, pls teach us timid girls out there your ways xD
Same lol
same those ungrateful brats
XD
There's a reason why the wife left. Poor girl. I hope she finds a happy family life elsewhere because those two are bitter.
"How many hours a day ?"
"5 hours"!‼
"ME,looks around nervously giggling"😓
The situation they need Psychologist or Expert for guidance ..
Sakura Chen lol
I love watching this show, but I find this particular issue far too complicated for the host and guest to solve. The show really needs to have real counselors to help resolve some of these family issues. The sister is not his mother; therefore, she should stop her behavior and just relate to him as a sister and a friend.
This show is not meant for the panel to SOLVE any problems. The show only tells the guest wether their problems is a concern or not. Thats all
And to make them realise it's a concern.
I’VE BEEN WAITING FOR THIS SINCE LAST WEEK AFTER THEY RELEASED THE ARTICLE THAT OUR BOO CRIED OMG I NEED THE OTHER PARTS PLEASE KBS 😭 And btw i’ve been watching this show for like two years now so don’t misunderstand. I’m watching this cause i’m a fan of both the show and the guests. I love hoshi. 😭💝 they should’ve come with dk so that booseoksoon will be complete 😅
when does he cry :O ?
boo seoksoon WHEN DOES HE CRY???
Its in the other part of the show a concern sent by a mom about his son whose acting like a brat and not wanting to study. Same episode but different part. KBS uploaded it already so you can watch it now.
He cried in "mom's wish" here is the link, ruclips.net/video/I2ZKyaEB2A0/видео.html
awwww ofc he cried he loves his mom
I dont get the puberty thing. If puberty caused the misbehavior, am I skip that phase or what? I am 21 years old already and I think I never misbehave because of puberty.
I can see through the dad. He do have paternal culture in his blood, thats why he differentiate between sister and the brother. The brother himself doing that because he got that exclusiveness so he didn't really realize he is wrong.
It just like because it my first drama
my heart goes out to the sister for being so strong and patient up till now
you can tell shes been holding on so far~because now she can handle & hold back her tears and replace them with smiles, even if it looks sad
Fighting noona! You have a lovely family, girl I pray may you have a good happy peaceful life with your brother and father~fighting!
"It's understandable to beat a kid for punishment(...)"
Woah ok, quick pause. I'm sorry but beating a child, whatever the situation might be, is not "understandable" to me. That's just wrong and ppl rly need to start realizing this. Ok, moving on now.
i hope it s just the translation
Honestly I think there is a problem between all three of them, and not having a proper understanding of each other. While the younger brother is definitely in the wrong for acting out, he is never corrected for his actions so he continues to do them.
His Sister is very caring and is trying her best to support their family and take care of them, but at the same time she needs to understand that her brother might just need some space to start understanding things on his own. I’m not saying he is in the right or that puberty is an excuse, but from my experience of having a younger brother who was incredibly angsty during puberty you just need to give them space with things that involve their own private life.
You can’t force someone to let you into their life no mater how much you want to know what’s going on, because the more you try to force yourself in the farther you push them away.
Their father is also at fault for not properly correcting his son when he does wrong, even if his son is “sensitive” that doesn’t change the fact that his actions should have proper consequences. He also needs to be more empathetic towards his daughter because she is going through a very tough time and having to deal with it all on her own, she needs someone who will be there for her and that she can rely on. He is also suffering from his wife leaving but he needs to understand that his children need him too, he needs to not act so childish towards them and actually act like their father. That might be a bit harsh but from what I saw he just pushes the blame on others and makes excuses, being a single parent is in no way easy but you can’t just hide behind petty excuses and act like a victim. You’re their father, they need you to be there for BOTH of them.
I didn’t realize how long this got lol but yeah... that’s my opinion.. They can definitely work it out if they actually take the time to sit down and talk/listen to each other, it takes time but it’s not a lost cause. I really hope they all work it out together and grow stronger as a family^^
I have nothing but respect for the girl. Sisters in a household are the second moms. My older sister takes care of me so much and I can see my mom in her. This little boy needs some discipline and hopefully as he gets older, he will understand everything his sister went through.
Why are they giving these children so much power by allowing them to act out because of “puberty” TF?
Iman chats right? I have to bottle mine up so I still get food to eat. It’s coming out in my tone tho 😬.
i feel her pain so much. god being the eldest girl is a lot of pain and watching over three younger siblings and worrying if your eldest brothers are okay is worrisome. everyone looks to you when something bad happens like “why weren’t you there?” “how come you didn’t do anything?” ive been raising my younger siblings with my mom cause well we don’t have a dad and it’s literally the hardest thing to do.also worrying abt school and siblings who are practically your kids cause u raised them since they were born and can’t go out with your friends cause you’re always watching them. it’s so annoying but i love them so of course i try my best not to get upset at them for it but at times i do cry and have hard times wondering if things would be better without me or things like that
18:43 I was so shocked to hear her say this. I totally disagree, hitting a child is never ok. It teaches them to fear adults instead of respecting them. If a child has done something wrong they need to understand what they did and why they shouldn't do it. Hitting them doesn't help them understand the reasoning behind the disciplinary action.
hittaledigtnamntack it's super common in India. The kids get over it too
I reacted strongly at what she said because where I live it's against the law to use violence against children, and the consequences are huge. Not only is the action punishable by law here, it's also socially unacceptable and very frowned upon. But different cultures use different methods when it comes to parenting, and no method is perfect.
But still, I do think that physical discipline should be avoided. If you want to understand my reasoning behind this I'd recommend you to read this study by Terry Dobbs & Judith Duncan (2004). It's called: "Children's perspectives on physical discipline: A New Zealand example".
But if you don't feel like reading the whole thing, I think this quote summarizes their findings quite well: "[...] use of physical discipline is not only wrong, but is ineffective, physically and emotionally harmful and gives children confusing messages about the use of violence. Furthermore, there was little debate from the children that hitting limited alternative's to resolve conflict and was harmful to their relationships with their parents".
hittaledigtnamntack nah I get it, but that's how most of us were brought up and I guess I could say it does have effects. But to put it plainly, it's common so kids kinda get over it fast and don't dwell on it too much. It has reduced a lot there, schools condemn capital punishment today. But I guess it's a culture and you gotta accept it. Like I mean Indian kids do grow up normal (most of them do, atleast). We're a very conservative society. What is fine in your country may be an absolute taboo in ours, so yeah culture shocks are bound to occur. And here we don't generally believe in a lot of medical disorders like a few western countries tend to. Like I'm sure they exist but we are kind of unaware so we have our own way of dealing it.
Yes, I'm from Sweden so I'd say our cultures are pretty different. Different doesn't mean bad though! There are a lot of things that Sweden could learn from India and vice versa. I hope you don't feel like I'm attacking your culture, because that wasn't my intention. I just think that people could benefit a lot from learning more about the consequences of violence. (And I think it's especially important when it has got to do with children since it's our responsibility as adults to make sure that they are healthy and safe).
hittaledigtnamntack gosh not at all! Haha, like you've said we probably can learn a lot about each other and our cultures. I didn't take any offence so no friction there :)
the girl when she laugh reminds me of moonbyul of mamamoo 🤗
They use their phones o 5/6 hours a day? and they're already shocked
bruh i use my phone 24/7! Like my hands and my phone are glued to each other 😂i wonder how will they react if I'm in the show?😂😂
Hmm, the way the sister handles him is wrong too... If he curses at her, she shouldn't curse back at him. She should be setting a good example for him. And I can understand how frustrating it would be for him if the sister asks him not to do something but she does it too, especially how she tells him not to talk to her in a disrespectful manner but her tone is also quite bossy. I would get irritated too. Both need to change
Yeahh both needs to change but if our mother scolds us or bosses us around we wouldn't complain. She is only his sister but she cooks for him and wants to take care of him too. Between she is also going through puberty and she is disregarded because she is a female. So we can understand how much pressure it would be for her. I'm not saying that what she did was right......but the younger one should have understood his sister more.....just my thoughts ☺️
Um.. no
sanakizaki are you saying no to my comment???......I'm just confused🙂
uhm yeah life is not that fair.. if shes their only source of income at the moment and is cleaning and cooking for them, she can do whatever the hell she wants, as shes only coming from of place of care and not hatred. She's the breadwinner and the mother figure only a year after her mother leaving them. Just because your parents do something doesn't mean you do it as well, and right now she's doing everything a parent should be doing and getting no recognition for it.
Okay i get that she could be irritating.. i understand when u said both need to change.. imagine growing up without the love of a mother, having to cook clean for ur family, earn money for ur family, taking care of an annoying little bro going through puberty.. i would be a complete bitch if i was her.. the real thing is the cursing is just the side problem.. shes not being appreciated is the real problem here.. n that is the things that should be fix..
I have an unpopular opinion it seems but as someone who is the youngest I totally relate to the brother but of course he also needs to change the way he responds. I feel like the boy needs his space especially at this time. Please don't be a mother be the older sister. No one can really replace a mother.What he needs is a natural relationship where the sister can nicely say she will be there but not over do it because he will feel more comfortable to talk to her if she doesn't respond harshly like he does. Take a look at the video. The brother opened up by himself when there was a comfortable environment. I really don't know how to explain it but I really understand the brother and I just think the sister could work on how she approaches him. And of course the father really needs to assume his role and I understand it's hard because of a financial situation but a small compliment and open minded conversation goes a long way. Lastly, the sister I believe has a valid claim because the boy is disrespectful but she is trying too hard to fullfill a role she can't completely do and not only does it upset her brother but it stresses her out too. This family really isn't all that bad and I can tell they all love eachother but communication is lacking amongst them.
I agree. They all are surprisingly articulate in explaining how they feel and why they act a certain way. From the father explaining all his actions, to the sis understanding the dads point of view, his stresses, and the family's financial situation, to the brother seeing her sister taking on the mothers role as an act and annoying and offensive to him. They should open up to each other more often, they r totally capable of understanding each other once they know it themselves when their feelings are communicated to each other.
I think the family should value each other a family is suppose to be a team not enemies
can relate
I related to the brother too. my mom would call me fat during that time and my older sisters as well, then they would make me eat the most. i wasnt insecure about my weight at that time but now i think back to it a lot. also it's irritating when they were hypocritical.
I need to get on this show with my family bc fr they say “ Don’t hit ur little brother” when he’s the one punching me on the head. I get whopped for my brother mistakes. “ a girl always does the house work” they never support be being a artist too. They want to force me into being a doctor. My dad loves my mom and brother more then me and says “ he’s still young he needs more love because he’s young when both children need equal love and affection.
I know this is 2 years ago but I’m so sorry for you, even when you have no support for them, still be what you want to be. Don’t be a doctor just because they want you to. It’s your life okay? I hope you’re doing okay now
18:45 he just threatened with a broom but my mom really bwt me with a broom stil shameless and asking for snacks the nxt moment😆😆😆😆😆
They are taking her for granted in such a young age. This is so unfair and stupid, she is doing by herself what she dosent need to do without people tell her, why? Because she see the situation and understand that is no good, and is going bad. Seeing how he dont want to hear her nag, just tells that he is not acostumed to have someone puting the boundarys on his life, telling him he dosent call the shouts. 7-7
I would love to have a sister that cooks for me and helps me when I get into a fight 😒
Can the mother take the custody of her daughter?
Why is everyone using puberty as an excuse for every wrong they did cause it's not and it doesn't justify your actions in any way either 🤨
Hoshi and Seungkwan's laugh way too cute 😇
This is one of the toughest concern from the program .I understand that the father is also stress but i am really annoyed to the brother.fighting young lady💪💪💪💪💪
I have a two brothers, one is older and one is youngest and I'm the only girl. I'm aware that I don't respect my older brother that much, we even fight such a little things like food,tv, or anything. But we don't cuss each other when we fight cause we don't want or let my little bro hear what we say. We always want to teach our bro some good manners and be discipline even though we are not.
참 부모가 답이없다 엄마가 왜 떠났는지 아버지만봐도 알겠는데 똑같은잣을 딸에게도 하고있네
얼른 자라서 독립해서 자기인생이나 잘살길
가족의대한 부채감은 담아두지말고
Let me tell you some okay kid?? When i was still going to puberty my fam nag at me too. All the freaking time. Sometimes i will protest too but at the same time I regret it soo much. So the truth is *puberty is not an excused* and now I'm gettin' aged I've realized that they nag at me for my own best. So hope you don't hate your sister anymore cuz she did her best in my opinion 😃
To be honest I feel her pain ...when a younger sibling disrespect you
You feel like you are about to explode ..after all the love and affection you've been giving them they are treating like shit
So I beat the shit out of them
But our relationship as siblings have never been the same it was before.
They try to rebel and disrespect me and I always end up feeling the need to hit them to remind them I'm more powerful
And I know this isn't the right thing to do ..
18:46 wtf no it isn't. Am I just crazy? am I the only one that thinks that beating a child or just in general using violence is absolutely wrong? especially when it's against someone weaker than you, someone that cant defend themselves? jfc
I agree
I swear, this whole episode has a lot of heartbreaking concerns and tears.
Going thru puberty is not an excuse for u to b rude & family is d 1st or sometimes last place for u to come back home when nobody else wants u
I have never related so hard to a concern before. My brother is FIVE years younger than me but he practically bullies me. I have thought about running away and disappearing many, many times before because of him and it doesn't help that my older sister is a b*tch too. I have no friends irl either and i am sad very often but it is thanks to kpop that I am much happier :3 People always say 'how can you let him treat you like that' and 'hes only little he doesn't know' he is 11. AND I HATE HIM. He is so rude and my 18 y/o sister and he are so close and like to gang up on me for no reason as i have done nothing to deserve the life i have. But, I cant do anything about that until i move out and break contact from all of them finally... people are also always calling him cute and it pisses me off because he is NOT cute in any way, and i never talk to anyone because when i do, they say i am exaggerating and 'they would never do that' I hate everything except kpop because honestly i would probably be in a really terrible state without it... AND people always believe him over me because he can make himself cry and then everyone believes i was rude to him when I did absolutely nothing... i am not pathetic enough to cry just so other people can get into trouble, i hate it... WHAT IS MY LIFE OMG
Hang in there
hang in there 💕, only a few more years until you can get away. i hope that you can find someone to lean on when you're upset. 💞
I can kind of relate to you. Hang in there!
i can totally relate.(But I`m the eldest in this situation) I commented/replied to a comment above, so I won`t repeat myself.
I to am awaiting for the moment i can leave.
puberty?is that all the excuse that exists in their dictionary?its clearly a gender inequality, the brother is favoured more and only getting pampered.What would they even do without the daughter. And in my opinion some of the response given by the father, idk i feel like not 100%true. no offence. And seriously the relatives gives allowances only o the kid?while the sister struggles finding money while working and studying to support thr family?thats stupid.
we can't completely blame the brother cuz he's just a kid who ALSO lost his mother :// he's nothing like the other guy that appeared on the show this week. they're going through a rough time but i'm sure that sooner or later they'll learn to bond together and take care of each other
just tell me why Me too. It's tough for them now. But I think it will get better too. All bc the sis is so strong and she has such a fighting spirit. I have no idea how she can still be so positive and cheerful, and how she can hold back those tears. The hurt that she actually feels is way more than just saying she's hurt. My heart hurts for her. She's great. And will go far in life bc of the struggles she's gone thru.
"Why did you start crying?"
"I got nervious"
Me: SERIOUSLY?! YOU KNOW WHAT I DON'T MIND....
CUZ I DO THE SAME AT TIMES
In this situation... I think talking is all they can do.
I mean, really really really talking with each other about how they feel about the situation(mom gone) AND remember they are family.
Some bad and hurtfull words might appear but with time it will heal and bond the family.
And do keep in mind that the boy is going through puberty, dad still trying to figure out how to handle this and the daughter trying to be strong. All three of them are trying to handle the situation in their own way and it might create lots of misunderstanding.
I think appearing here on the show helped them talk and hopefully they will continue at home.
With time they will bond and grow stronger.
I feel like the woman to the right of the sister was the only one who was actually trying to understand and empathize with the sister as opposed to just siding with the kid because he’s growing up
Feels like he might think the sister is trying to replace the mother, it seems like he still hasn't gotten over her leaving and subconsciously believes she will come back, so to him the sister saying she is taking care of him like a mother is overstepping her bounds and she herself doesnt know how to be a mother so she will also make mistakes when dealing with him and the bottom of this issue is the father and the mother didnt properly communicate with their kids and helped with the transition of the divorce. She needs to keep being a sister instead of trying to put the title of mother on herself, that's a title she will have to earn if she really wants it, and i dont think she realises how heavy of a burden the title mother can be to someone thats not ready for it.