10 Doctor Who Mistakes Confirmed By The Creators
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It's shocking how close we came to 11 being in Series 8. Matt Smith gave an interview where he said he would be filming the specials, and then going back in the new year to film the next series (series 8) and only one month later he announced his departure. Something changed his mind in that one month and whatever it was, it probably lead to a lot of rewriting for the special finale
I think he was probably lying in that interview. He and Jenna have both said that they knew from the outset that they would only have one series together.
@@gerryandersonisbestAnd even then it only ended up being about half a series. A real shame too because I loved their chemistry.
@@ProtoKun7 Me too! I think Matt felt the same way. I know he regrets not staying for a second season with Jenna. I've always gotten the impression that he was already regretting the decision to leave by the time season 7 stopped filming. I think he enjoyed filming with Jenna more so than he had expected to but, didn't feel like he could go back on his decision to leave once he had confirmed it with Moffat.
(Genuinely feel like the reason Jenna had the guts to change her mind so last minute about leaving in the episode "Last Christmas" is because she had witnessed Matt make the opposite decision and regret it).
But Matt has said he wishes he had completed his one series with Jenna Coleman, probably aludding to having only done 1/2 a season with her. Which may suggest he did leave unexpectedly early.@@gerryandersonisbest
@@Joseph-uo3mx I'm sure he does regret that, but that doesn't mean his departure wasn't planned for the end of S7 from the start.
Clara would have been more interesting if the Victorian Clara was actually the companion
Ooo now here’s a hot take I might agree with she was clearly a lot more romantic toward the doctor and it would’ve been nice to see them fall for eachother unlike base Clara who goes for Danny like bruh really Danny wtf and she was a fun version of Clara she seemed in the hour we knew her to form a heavy bond with the doctor
It would have been interesting if we could have had both, Victorian Clara with 11, and Modern Clara with 12. The best of both worlds.
I would love to see a companion from the past again. It's like the BBC is scared to actually commit to it.
@@KingZolomonnah I hate when the doctor has romances with his companions
@@ashwinnaidoo796it’s one hell of an age gap 😅
Are you kidding me! When that bow tie dropped, I completely lost it.
Matt Smith's exit was amazing. His regeneration energy destroying the Dalek flagship was wonderful. And his final moments in the Tardis nothing short of brilliant.
I enjoyed the final scenes, but I'd admit that the story overall was a bit forgettable, especially compared to the final stories 9 and 10 had.
The whole getting more regenerations still feels like such an asspull.
@@evilkingstanley That's because it's rubbish. The Time Lords in charge would be more inclined to kill him off. If there was an entire season where the Doctor and the Master were fighting over something that would reset their regeneration counter, that would have been great, but as far as I'm concerned, Jodie Whittaker's Doctor was Romana--she had the attitude that she knew better than previous Doctors to a T.
@3mpt7 Well, since the timeless child debacle, we can probably assume that the doctor already had more regenerations, and the timelords just made a big show of it so that he didn't realise that he was the timeless child.
@@SnowLily06 The Doctor: accidentally created the universe through a TARDIS malfunction, and also has infinite lives he doesn't have to work toward. Yeah, I think I'm going to stick with my own original idea and just call him what he is: The Lord God Almighty. The BBC sci-fi/fantasy team are total chickens.
I’m always surprised at how many people weren’t impressed by the Time of the Doctor! It’s one of my favourites! It was a bit busy, but no so much that I got lost, and 11’s regeneration is probably my favourite regeneration. 11 as a pensioner destroying multiple alien threats with regeneration energy, and that profound speech where the bow tie drops and Pond returns and whispers “raggedy man…” I enjoyed it immensely.
My big critique is that I’d have loved another season of Smith, or even a couple of specials to ramp up to the regeneration. But otherwise it’s a great episode and think it was a great way for 11 to bow out.
Not to mention the phone call an episode or two later.
"I will always remember when the Doctor was me" will always be my favourite ever line from a regeneration. Also they way Smith speaks it to the camera makes it feel like he's saying goodbye to the role and the fans.
@@themajesticham2247 yes! Ngl I always feel that every regeneration has this to an extent, but Matt’s did it the best!
The regeneration itself was good, but the rest of the story was taken up with answering the questions raised by eleven's arc (who is the silence, what do they want, why must silence fall, why does the doctor die at trenzalore, etc) and that part fell flat to me.
For that sort of "mysterious secret" plot to work well, you need to do one of two things. Either you frame it as a challenge for the viewer to figure out, with the goal being for them to go "oh of course, I should have seen that" when it's revealed. The Harold Saxon/you are not alone arc is a pretty good example of this. Or you make the eventual answer really important for the series, with shocking implications for the series. The timeless child, for all its flaws, is a very good example of that.
In this episode, the answers that were revealed didn't feel remotely guessable from the hints Moffatt had previously given. And they aren't important at all for the show, given that they were never mentioned again. Yes, the Doctor got a new set of regenerations, but that wasn't because of the silence arc. They weren't actively trying to stop the doctor getting new regenerations, (well, no more so than any other bad guys who try to kill him). So the things that were revealed didn't feel important to me either.
yeah, I started watching Doctor Who with Capaldi being the doctor, and while I watched back to the old episode, I goes like "who is this young noisy man that's lack of wisdom?", but still enjoying it as, well, these episodes are great
THEN I watch the Time of the Doctor, at the moment of his regeneration, although he supposingly changing into the Doctor I like the most...
...I don't want him to go
all the build up before and on that special is such amazing that, Matt slowly become yet another of my favorite Doctor and actor, his performance is nothing but great and the plot elevated it. Yes it might not be the most trilling or mysterious episode, BUT it hit right on point on the sentimental side, I cried like a baby when seeing him leave
Once again, the creators did nothing wrong with their promotion for wild blue yonder. It’s people that over speculated and made speculation videos in the vain of WandaVision mephisto arc. RTD may say he shouldn’t have done that, but this is one of the cases where he didn’t mess up, it’s on the fans for just over hyping themselves and not accepting the episode as it came.
I went into it not having watched any speculation. The only thing I had heard about it was that no one knew what the episode was about and I loved that. And my enjoyment of the episode was fantastic. I was on the edge of my seat the entire time. When I heard that people were disappointed by it and then heard what everyone was expecting based on nothing but what they told themselves would be in it. Sometimes you just gotta go into an episode and enjoy it. Not speculate what it could be. The people that look back at the handling of WBY and think it should’ve been handled differently need to accept that the only reason they were disappointed with the episode was because of themselves.
For the people that went into the episode not speculating and not knowing anything and still didn’t like it? That’s perfectly valid. I’m not talking about those fans. Only the fans that were disappointed it wasn’t what they were told it would be by other fans or themselves.
I hope RTD actually does this more often with the show
The fans are to blame, for sure. That said, RTD is more than smart enough to have seen the speculation coming so arguably should've tailored the episode's marketing to counteract that as much as possible. He knows what fans are like, so he really didn't help himself here.
And to be fair to fans, when you keep a 60th Anniversary Special SO top secret, what else are they going to do but speculate on what surprises may be in store? It's only natural. All 3 specials suffer from feeling too much like just normal episodes, which is a bit deflating anyway - so of course they're going to be most disappointed with the one that was kept the most secret.
@@AnimationYTST Ok to be fair, there's a difference between taking a 15 year break with some audio stories and a movie in between and there being literally no break between series 13 and 14. I don't really care but your equivalency is pretty false
I really enjoyed that episode too. I don't look at anything before watching an episode.
His final speech as the doctor was amazing
I think with Matt's finale, it's biggest problem was trying to do hundreds of years of his life in one hour. Skipping over most of the events. Imagine it though as a 12 part series. Similar to Capaldi guarding the vault in S10. The Doctor guarding the crack on Trenzalore but occasionally sneaking off for a relevant side adventure. While other episodes focus on attacks on Trenzalore. Each episode Clara returns to find the Doctor older with still room for further implied adventures but it gives us more room to believe how big the story is. I think it's a shame Smith went in a special as ending on a full series could have been amazing.
It's an issue with Moffat's writing in general, massive events being brushed over in a 42 minute runtime.
Season 8 being The Time of The Doctor is actually and intriguing idea.
That was actually Moffats plan all along to make it a season wide arc. But when Matt decided to step away, he had to condense it.
@vishaansingh1019 while I don't disagree, almost all of Moffat's episodes are an hour long.
Smith's departure might have been mishandled, but wow did he knock it out of the park with that last performance 😊
Damn I actually like the Doctor and Amy’s kiss purely for the fact that so early on the Doctor just told Amy like nah I’m not into you like that, because a man taking her to see the universe does seem kinda romantic so it doesn’t seem so out of the blue for her to feel that way imo.
I think the issue is that it wasn't romantic she made it very clear she just wanted a one night stand on the night before her wedding. The scene could've very easily been like most of the other companions when they think he's coming on to them, and he says its not like that.
I do agree, after such a story arc to build to the moment, no yellow fire or tardis exploding it was a blink and you missed it moment switching from Matt to Peter. When compared to Matt's entrance it does really stand out.
I’m sorry, Matt’s regeneration is absolutely fantastic. I wouldn’t change a thing about it
The actual regeneration, yes. Though I never saw it properly because I had something in my eye when Amy appeared. But the lead up was a bit variable.
I agree maybe one of the best, talk about going out in a blaze of glory. Though it sounds more like Smith was upset about the episode itself, rather than the actual regeneration scene, thinking it should have been spread out into at least a two-parter, and he is kind of right, it did feel rushed at times.
Clara may be my second favorite companion. Because of her growth arc. She started out a typical run, scream, and be saved companion. Then, The Doctor Regenerated and started being a grumpy old codger. I absolutely love the way Clara bossed around Capaldi, bringing him back to The Doctor she knew him to be.
I always read their arc as her falling out of attraction with him because he stopped looking "her age", which killed the immediate chemistry of their relationship. Going forward, it turns into him pining for her, and her learning to see him past his immediate appearance for what he actually is, at which point they fall in love. As much as I found Clara a mixed character, I did enjoy that aspect of her and 12.
Totally agree. I know many fans had a problem with her challenging and talking back to the Doctor all the time, but I thought it was really fun and clever, and I liked her chemistry with Capaldi even more than with Smith. Only thing that didn't quite work for me was the whole romance with Danny.
@@davidjames1389the Danny romance was just awful. It ruined that series. The charector was a pratt.
Completely agree. Capaldi and Clara were magic together. Clara was one of the most interesting ingredients in DW. It seems clear that Ellie disliked the character which is her right. I didn't like River Swan so I doubt Ellie and I will ever be sharing a coffe whilst chatting DW. I like the fact though that DW is so broad and huge that viewers can completely differ in their views, opinions and favourite elements.
The finale episode of series 11 needs to be more accurately and honestly labelled for the absolute garbage it was. The most dull of finals in the entire history of the show.
Completely agree 💗
I don’t think a cameo role would be enough for Matt. But he will get another series (a season or two) covering his adventures on Trenzalore eventually.
I hope so! The good thing is that he was old on trenzalore so even if we don't get that series now it could still happen in 30 years
7:07 seems like he did end up writing one lol
Hindsight is a wonderful thing. If only there was a way to travel in time.
I travel in time. I'm heading to the future at the rate of one minute per minute... ;-P
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The other problem with Time of the Doctor is that moffat has also said the siege was meant to be a series arc as well. Matt's final scene i loved. But Matt smith has said in many recent interviews he would be back in a instant if he gets the call, same as Mcgann. Just theres been no call sadly.
I have no sympathy for anyone who was disappointed by Wild Blue Yonder, because of the secrecy. You did it to yourself. RTD came right out and stated that there are no returning Doctors in the anniversary specials, to try to curb the conjecture. Also, after watching Star Beast, and having three separate bait and switch moments, when i thought the plot was going one way, and it went another, i capitulated that i was not going to be able to guess Russel’s plans. If you were disappointed by Wild Blue Yonder not meeting the wild fan theories, it’s your own fault.
Whilst I agree with being too hopeful and expectations, I do think there was a massively missed opportunity for wild blue yonder and it could have been so much more. Very disappointing to not even at least have past doctors show up in a cameo.
@Ryan_James93 I know people always blame Chibnall for everything, but I do genuinely think that was because of Chibnall. The power of the doctor was literally the last episode before the 60th specials, and it had more returning doctors and companions than any other doctor who episode. Frankly, another multi-doctor story directly after the power of the doctor would've felt cheap and like multi-doctor stories aren't rare or special anymore.
My only problem with Matt Smith exit is he didn’t take the tardis interior with him. Don’t get me wrong, I love that second Smith interior, but Capaldi deserved his own that wasn’t just a minor redress
The trouble I had with Matt Smiths exit story was the way they plastered him with aged make up and took away his mad cap energy and youth in doing so. The story went flat and his regeneration was really somber as well.
I think what would have been brilliant for Matt Smith’s series 8 if they really leaned into it being his final face where he’s not as quick to take a life and death risk as if to think “if I die now, I do for good and who will be around to help in the future”. The conversation could have ended the time of the Doctor episode with the Doctor suddenly realising that he was going to have to take things a bit more carefully from then on, which would have ended up with Clara putting herself in more dangerous situations so that the Doctor could survive to save another day
I have to disagree with you about Clara, I love her and it was absolutely the right decision to give her a more active role! Though I do like the Impossible Girl arc too
I think Ellie is just saying they went a little too far in the other direction, not that it wasn't the right idea.
I always tend to like companions that are their own people and challenge the Doctor, but I can certainly understand why people didn't like the Clara/12 stuff. If nothing else it's hard to imagine any other companion trying to coerce the Doctor, or the Doctor not having at least something to say about it or trust issues afterwards.
Mind you I do kinda like the Doctor's line about caring for her so little it would matter, as cheesy as it is.
@@mrjoe5292You see, I'm kind of the opposite on the trust issues thing. I really can't picture any of the modern Doctors (except maybe 9?) NOT forgiving a companion for something like that. They're all pretty soppy like that. 12 just embodies it the most.
Her arcs just became so repetitive and melodramatic, adding to the fact that she came off as haughty and somewhat unknowable with how much she flip flopped on her opinions on time travel. It felt like the show itself fell in love with her. I understand it's a metaphor for how 12 felt about her, but still, I got so tired of her by the end.
another season with Matt would have been great. on a side note the dvd commentaries with Peter Davison and his tardis team about their adventures are absolute gold standard
If I were an actor and got cast as the Doctor, I'd be looking at equaling Tom Baker's record for number of seasons in role. It's weird that no one in the modern era has wanted to go on for that long. I get it's a stressful job, but it's got to be more fun than most.
That was a very interesting video to watch! 🙂
I actually side with Matt Smith and agree with him. The Time of the Doctor, the 2013 Xmas Special could have been so much better. Tasha Lem was an interesting character but she was wasted in the Xmas special. It lacked the emotional impact of David Tennant's swansong "The End of Time". And I think it's a shame about the latest news on Millie Gibson getting dropped from Doctor Who in favour of Verada Sethu. Her potential was wasted and Ruby Sunday could have been the best companion since Amy Pond.
the tardis team changed every season the last time RTD was showrunner, I am not worried about it
Other than Rose most of rtd's companion have been 1 season only. I trust rtd will give Ruby a proper arc
I absolutely adore the over-corrected Clara, and haaated Danny pink
I was surprised by the thumbnail yet suspected right away the reasoning would be just about what the video reveals. Time of the Doctor did come at a somewhat awkward point for a departure and thus was a little contrived and, yes, noticably hurried. Nevertheless, it absolutely was great!
That's indubitably the most interesting story here, but it's still overall a pretty cool list, thanks.
i think patrick troughton chose to leave after 3 seasons to give other actors a chance to play. a very generous, unselfish act.
Probably had to do with the scripts being insanely repetitive. Three years of doing hundreds of base under siege stories has gotta get old fast.
You have to remember that in his day, the seasons were a LOT longer. One Patrick Troughton season is the equivalent of about five modern seasons!
I think they they could have done better with the lead up to Matt smith’s regeneration but I love performance and speech he gives right before regenerating. Talking about how we are always changing and becoming different people as we mature but it’s important to always remember who we were
this is straight up just good advice for life and it makes me smile everytime i watch it
Yaaas! a new Ellie video :D :D Made my monday 🤩
Woop woop!
7:03 - Theory Time!
I'm probably stretching here, but in the Season 1 Teaser as well as the newly released Trailer, we see those slug creatures. Russell's idea for Return of the Fendal could be inspiration for this. Furthermore, Classic Who is now available on BBC Iplayer, as it has been since November 2023. What if, and I'm shooting my shot deep into the dark here, but what if the Slug Creatures are actually the Fendal, just New-Whunified. They're both a similar-ish design, from what we've seen already and RTD, in this quote, expressed Image of the Fendal being perfect for revisting.
Thoughts?
To be fair to Matt's last episode, it was the first episode after the day if the doctor. Thats a hell of an episode to have to follow on from
Hiring Chris Chibnall in the first place
Said no-one with a brain ever.
@@DrWhoFanJ exsctly, he was comically bad and Jodie’s Doctor would’ve been better without his writing
@@12thMandalorian Again, said no-one with a brain ever. Having a brain stops us spouting nonsensical gibberish like you keep doing.
Wow so unexpected ! it is easy to hate, but did you even try to watch for what this era is rather than just shit on everything ? it is flawed, may not be your favourite era or the best era, but it has it's strenght and it's weaknesses, like all of them. Yes, characters did not have the best writing, but IMO the number of companion and the existence of RYAN let it down. The era had so very good parts, the villains were good (mostly) and Dhawan's Master was amazing. And there was Dan (he's good at this)
For some reason I have this urge to ask Matt Smith to come back in a cameo, no idea where I heard that though 😜😉
I loved Ranskoor. Loved the Tym Shaw gag name and his return. And The Advanced Scout Dalek was the most innovative monster update, since the Sonraran’s chant and dance. SONTAR HA!
I found that the Chibnall era had nice villains ! The Daleks and the Anges were very good. So was the lost cyberman, and Dhawan's Master
@@arthemis1039 agreed! I totally forgot how Chibnall brought me around to love Dhawan’s Master.
more history:
At first, the Doctor wasn't touted as a Time Lord or even an alien. Nor was Susan. Sort of.
The first "regeneration" wasn't called that. It was called a rejuvenation, suggesting Troughton was a younger Hartnell.
The second "regeneration" was just a forced change by the Time Lords who made the Doctor change his appearance. Neither of the first two regens were called RENGENERATION.
The third regen was called that mostly due to Buddism ideas. The planet Gallifrey was not named until TERROR OF THE AUTONS in season EIGHT, eight years after the show started. The Words Time Lord didn't appear until SIX years after the show started. Time Lords were named in WAR GAMES. BTW< the planet the Doctor is from was first called Jewel some two weeks before THE TIME WARRIOR called it Gallifrey so the Doc is from Jewel.
AND Time Lords could live FOREVER barring accidents. That wasn't changed until DEADLY ASSASSIN, some 15 years after the show started. And for Time Lords THAT WAS the end (12 lives, done) and then that changed in TIME OF THE DOCTOR or something.
The First Doctor and most of the time of the Second Doctor, neither had TWO hearts or two pulses but ONE. That he had two hearts wasn't revealed or happened in SPEARHEAD FROM SPACE, seven years after the show started. The Doc had an exam in WHEEL IN SPACE in season 6 and Gemma never revealed anything unusual about the Doctor. Hmmm. Maybe his new heart grew as it did in the 8th Doctor novels?
At least twice in the show's run during Tom Baker, Tom's Doc declared he was no longer a Time Lord (or a medical Doctor even though Troughton's Doctor HAD or almost had a medical degree). In BRAIN OF MORBIUS, PRYAMIDS OF MARS, and INVISIBLE ENEMY, Tom's Doc says things that make us think that when he severed his ties to the Time Lords, he lost some Time Lord abilities and didn't even consider himself a Time Lord, "not anymore, now I"m just a traveler." Fans ignore these things. In ENEMY, he even declares a physical part of his brain is gone or severed because he left and that made him no longer a Time Lord.
Was Susan a Time Lord, rather than "just" a Gallifreyan? Was any backstory ever given to her, from any source?
I remember thinking Matt Smith was forced out--he seemed to be having too much fun, and then suddenly he announced his departure. Would have been great to get one more season--and 11 facing Missy would have been a hoot.
Time of the Doctor = a beautiful charming fairytale like story with a beautiful ending from Smith being completely selfless and positive. Gosh I loved Dr 11. More acurately this post should have been called 5 times the creators begrudginly suggested and reflected that they may have made a wrong choice and 5 times they admitted they had. Clara is the best!!!!
Heh, did you folks sneak a Morbius clip in during the Matt Smith segment on his regret? Heh.
Yes, they did.
I disagree with him, he's my favourite incarnation of the Doctor and his entire run was amazing. I especially liked the bell tower scene "Sorry, what did you say? Did you mention the rules? and "If you think you can stop now Daleks? If you want my life...Ha,ha Come...and get it!" - Coldddd!
The change from 9's incarnation to 11's, 9 scared to kill because of the time war (the moment) but 11 willing to wipe them all out and see them burn. That's character development.
Matt smith’s last episode is one of the best episodes ever written
Luckily I don't think not knowing much about Wild Blue Yonder ended up causing a major disappointment from fans who were expecting the ghost of William Hartnell on the back of the Garm. At least I've not seen any particular backlash about that
Clara is my absolute favorite companion of all time. I love everything about her character❤❤❤. The impossible girl arc to me was better than demons run or any others. She was sweet,sexy,adorable,smart,perky,quirky, fierce at times, respected the doctors knowledge i could go on and on.
Did you say ' Come back in a cameo role'?
come back for a cameo role!
Now I'm REALLY curious to see how Series 8 would have gone with Matt instead. Like it just sounds so interesting. I'm going to be imaging this for days 😂
Best way to fix it is to head to Big Finish Matt.
I'm all for less marketing and leaks so no, keeping it secret is never a mistake. All I want to know is when it's airing.
Clara was virtually the doctor's career and protector .They pushed each other to become better and kinder people .
is it just me or did it feel like from when david tennant stayed for so long in 2005🙃
1:20 Rick and Morty before Rick and Morty
I think the biggest problem with Time of the Doctor is it followed the absolutely brilliant Day of the Doctor anniversary special. There's just no way it ever could have competed. Not to mention that distracting wig Smith wore for the entire episode. Lol
I heard "Come back in a cameo role and bring your wife with you"
Didn’t understand how the Dalek mutant could exist outside its casing?
Still gonna stand by it:WBY was the strongest of the 3(4 Me),when it comes to scary, Dr Who sci-fi..
That moment,when the Dr takes the wrong Donna,and leaves.while the REAL Donna is screaming, and watched the Tardis fade, while the flames and destruction of the ship 'She's now stuck on '...comes closer and closer...I really thought I was watching Donna demise😵 glad it was resolved etc...BUT,those few seconds when that happened,THATS DR WHO..
13 was right ,you'll never come back the same, IF U COME BACK...AT ALL😑✌️🍻🤘
I did not love Smith's final episode, but I did really like the regeneration and his parting words.
Matt Smith's final episode was good; I enjoyed it! It was his actual physical regeneration I was disappointed with.
I would have loved one more season with Matt Smith, but I also think the way he went out is the most beautiful. I couldn't have asked for a better finish. Capaldi's was a close second.
#8: I was ultimately rather pleased with the way the secrecy surrounding Wild Blue Yonder kept us in the dark. I didn't seek out spoilers or fan theories - I let the mystery be the mystery. And as a result, I got to enjoy ONE OF THE BEST DOCTOR WHO STORIES IN MANY YEARS! 😀
It turned out to be the best episode of the 3. So much one on one drama. A simple story done well.
Suggestion for a future episode - 10 monsters/villains from Big Finish that should appear in the TV series (I nominate the Scorchies as a pick)
I'll keep that in mind.
0:25 Ironic, given that none of the characters in the Chibnall era had any growth whatsoever
Oh look a video with Moffat criticisms and "oh if only RTD had done this extra episode and promoted it more" le sigh.
Also, I didn’t have a problem with Wild Blue Yonder being so secretive and I genuinely don’t get why it’s a problem for so many. For, years, a lot of us (myself included) have hated so much information being revealed over and over instead of just letting us watch and I enjoyed the return to letting us learn as we go.
Also, it reminds us that not every episode has to be an event. It reminded us that it’s ok to just let people enjoy ordinary content when it comes out too. Anyone over the age of 35 will remember a time when you got to know nothing about any show until the episode came out. Those are the days I want to return to. Every episode being heavily redacted until the release rather than just the events. If ordinary episodes are redacted as well then that over time will remind us not to overthink and get over-excited.
I feel the three episodes that were suppised to be the 60th Anniversary specials were a big let down.
Interesting list, and an enjoyable watch. I would only add a couple of observations off the top of my head:Philip Hinchcliffe is on record I think from the 80s that he considers 'The Deadly Assassin' as a "failed experiment", although not necessarily a mistake for that. I think he said his intention with that serial was to encourage Holmes to really "go for it" and push the boundaries of the format to the extremes, and that therefore the result was not necessarily successful, but nonetheless instructive and helpful. As for the Plasmaton problem, yes this seems emblematic. The way you describe them reminds me of what Terrance Dicks noticed with the Krotons, Dicks famously stating that while the Krotons looked good, they could hardly move and so all they could really do was 'loom menacingly'. The thing about both Kamelion and the Magma Beast is that they were as props capable of much more than we ever got to see on screen, in the case of Androzani due to time pressures (the beast was more fully animatronic than was seen on screen) and in the case of Kamelion partly due to time, and the tragic incident of the only person who knew how to properly program the thing dying, taking those secrets with him. The Magma beast id sometime cited as an example of even the very best of Doctor Who have this isolated example of a really rubbish monster, the giant rat in 'Talons' and the giant snake in 'Kinda' being the usually cited examples.
Clara truly shined with 12.
It's the most interesting romance the show had by far, but it went in too many circles for me to stay invested.
I was never Matt Smith's biggest fan, but his performance in Time Of The Doctor was one of the best I've ever seen in this show - and I've watched it since the very beginning.
Odd take I think Matt smiths exit was more tuned towards him having a good exit on behalf of his career rather then the dr getting a good send off a good example is what we did with tenent he is the dr in so many minds that honestly it was harder for him to leave then any other incarnation imho he left and jumped into roles that were almost completely opposed to the dr and was smart to do so he was able to avoid the stamp of the dr being his major role and in turn was able to show what he can do as a villain honestly he’s a great villain almost better I’d say but I think even he knows he allowed the dr to take a hit so his career wouldn’t either way not a judgment on its validity just a feeling that kind of writing is what led to the lore being so totally fugged up the timeless child and the rest kinda puts more of a stain on the story then any of the added political stuff everyone lost there minds over the agenda but looking back we only complain about the major story beats that changed up so crazily
Matt Smith thinks his Doctor Who Exit was not good. Take out the word "EXIT" and he'd be right.
To this day I’ve never seen Matt’s ending. He is my favorite Doctor and I just couldn’t bring myself to watch
Matt smith is the best doctor
Clara is a S tier companion
The fans that are upset about WBY being kept secret is on them not RTD. Don't assume anything. Don't speculate about anything.
I’d love to see Series 8 reworked as an Eleventh Doctor story. Imagine it building up to the conclusion in Time of the Doctor instead of cramming it all into one episode. Though Missy fits Twelve so well
12th Doctor to date is my favorite “Doctor falls” re-generation. 🤘🎥🤘
While I'd have liked to seen another season with Matt Smit - I think The Time of the Doctor was a charming exit for that incarnation of The Doctor.
When I think about the mistakes in Doctor Who, I think about the attempted regeneration of the 11th Doctor at the moment he is supposed to die. When he invites Amy & co to his death, we see the astronaut (River, but we don't know it at the time) come out of the water, shoot him, the regeneration starts, and then she shoots him again. Yet, he appears to no longer have the ability to regenerate since he ages near the crack until the Time Lords grant him this capability again. Or, I don't understand something ^^
i ADORED clara from start to finish. She’ll always be my favorite companion. I never understand her series B criticism since I believe her personality still came through and simply got developed more with series 8 & 9 since she finally had a full series
Same here 😊
Why are so many of these just keeping the episode a secret. That is a good thing.
It's way more nuisanced than "it's a good thing." There's a reason why that isn't always the default. Keeping everything a secret negatively impacts ratings; creates false expectations that aren't met, leading to poor responses; squanders the ability to build hype, resulting in a lacklustre reception and fewer fans, etc. Simply saying "never revealing spoilers (which basically means "not advertising") is always better" is INCREDIBLY naive.
I am decidedly spoiler-averse. I have never seen a spoiler for any film or TV show that ever ‘improved’ my viewing experience, or made me watch something that I didn’t want to watch.
I am an adult and I can decide for myself whether I enjoyed any particular TV episode or film. I do not need someone to tell me “everything I need to know” about something before I watch it (“previously-on”s being the exception). I find that I have more interest in the story of the episode than when ‘spoiled’ and I appear to notice things that my (spoiler watching) friends always seem to miss.
Let’s face it, we’re talking about Doctor Who - I’ve been watching it for so long that I know what it’s about, and I don’t need to be told who or what ‘this week’s villain’ is, or what next week’s storyline is, in advance. I will judge the story by watching it, not by what someone else has to tell me about it.
I believe that I have seen most episodes, both the ‘Old Who’ and ‘New Who’. I have not necessarily liked every episode, but have enjoyed watching them, and regardless of what any self-opinionated internet gob-on-a-stick might think, every episode has its own worth, like it or dislike it.
Everyone should be allowed to enjoy Doctor Who (or any other TV show or film) in their own way, spoiler-free if they so wish.
Ratings. 12's run experienced a steep decline and Moffat feels that not sticking Series 9 with a "hook" may have been a reason for that.
The mistake that bugs me the most is Rose Noble's age.
How can she be 15?
Star Beast is set 15 years after Journey's End.
Donna had not met Sean yet in Journey's End.
End of Time was set during Christmas 2009, so the wedding of Sean & Donna would have been 2010.
Still no sign of pregnancy.
The earliest Rose could have born is 2011, which means the oldest Rose could be is 12.
I'm surprised other people haven't mentioned this.
it's set in 2028
@@johannahyde-parker8422
In all 3 specials, Donna says it's been 15 years since The Doctor wiped her memory.
The Toymaker says its 2023.
Wibbly wobbly, timey wimey
@@tomalator WELL THAT'S ALRIGHT THEN!
I thought she was 18 for half the show…
I'm sorry...I'm just not a huge River Song fan but I love Clara.
honestly i feel like the should bring back Susan, the already name dropped her so why not have her make a come back?
Take it from me, nobody likes being called "disappointingly simple".
The end of flesh and stone wasn't that bad, i felt it expanded on Amys character in ways other companions didn't have. She met him as a young girl, a man from the sky coming to protect from the crack in her wall, and does so then disappears then many years later comes back again and saves the world. So i can see the fantasy built up in her mind over the years, hence the games her and Rory used to play. It makes her character more human than say Clara who always felt somewhat alien. The scene was Somewhat sexual but no overtly, plus the doctor shot her down. Also you'll find that whole series onwards is more Sexually charged than any other. Thank you River Song.
I agree. The kissing scene with Amy always made perfect sense to me and I think it was definitely on track with Amy's arc/character. We were already given a number of clues that Amy had kinda built up the Doctor as her romantic fantasy before that. So, it wasn't exactly coming out of left field! I mean, she had already run away on the night of her wedding with her very own Peter Pan! The Peter/Wendy parallel is very strong with the Doctor/Amy and Wendy was always in love with Peter... not that Amy was literally "in love" with the Doctor but, you know what I mean. He is her childhood dream/hero so, her attraction definitely made sense. Plus, Amy's romantic attention worked as the perfect motivator for the Doctor to want to bring Rory along in order to shift her focus away from him.
(And, personally, the messiness of their dynamic in that episode is what kinda helped suck me into this darn show in the first place so... I do have a strong affection for that scene 🤣).
"Battle of wiefuawefin was a first draft"
The more I learn about this man, the more I wonder why he was ever given the reins of the show.
1:08 "And I would be one of those people"
And you would be wrong, Ellie 😊
Also, I think calling the Series 9 opener "stale" is a bit harsh. I get why Moffat feels that way about it, but I think it's fine as it is. I get that you need to keep things fresh but you can also afford to let stuff settle just for a little bit. It doesn't need to be new, it just needs to be good.
Clara was an overcooked character and the fact that she's pretty doesn't change that.
@@vishaansingh1019 who said anything about her being pretty? What has that got to do with anything I said?
Matt should stay away from the show, he is doing way better now with House of the Dragon.
Plus, Amy "snogging" Eleven was funny, people over think it. Eleven was caught off guard but then handled the situation like any other. People crying over it or making it a big deal need to move on.
Let's not be too harsh on the end of (classic) series 20, for two reasons. (1) No, Kamelion didn't really work, for a number of reasons, but one of them I've heard is that his main programmer died in an auto accident before production of "The King's Demons". The other programmers were just not capable of putting him through the full range of his abilities. (2) "The King's Demons" was not supposed to be the end of the season. That was "The Return", featuring the Daleks. (It would be produced the following year as "Resurrection of the Daleks".) But industrial action hit the BBC that year, and once it ended the second half of the "Enlightenment" shoot and "The King's Demons" took over the studio days originally reserved for "The Return". ("Enlightenment" almost became another "Shada" by not being completed, but as the finale of the Black Guardian trilogy, JN-T decided it was a priority to finish it.)
Season* 20, and then the Classic term is superfluous.
I thought The Magician's Apprentice and The Witch's Familiar were a brilliant series opener, personally.
Only one of those episode titles exists.
@@DrWhoFanJ D'oh! fixed it.
If Matt Smith or Christopher Eccleston come back to Doctor Who within my lifetime it will become the end of my lifetime 😂
The only negative I have about MS last episode is that he didn't say "Geronimo" when he started to regenerate. It would have been so awesome if he would have started to say it and poof regenerate. "Gero..."
The Fendhal look like those 4 slugs seen in the trailer for season 1 (series 14).
Ellie just googles "doctor who tea" then makes a video on it.
Amy attempting to kiss the doctor had been a large point of them meeting up until he reminds her that she loves Rory.
Rewatch the show, Ellie.
Wut? No one's saying that Amy loving the Doctor was out of character, just that having a scene where the Doctor gets forcefully kissed by a 22 year old is extremely immature by the show's standards. It's also a hell of a leap to go from dozens of soldiers dying to Amy deciding she's a sex-crazed groupie who needs the Raggedy Man right then and there. The whole scene looks weird in the context of the angle their relationship eventually took anyways.
@@vishaansingh1019 everything was obviously leading towards her kissing him through out several episodes, from the moment]Amy as an adult realizes who he is as HER "raggedy man" she sets up her own idealized romance plot while the doctor keeps being the doctor and she goes further away from Rory to adventure with 11 by choice. The setup and leadup to the kiss was there and was also an important part of the early era as it gave the Doctor their own autonomy and not just to be a mysterious 007 esque character left from Tenants doctor.
Rewatch it. :)
Wild Blue Yonder fell so flat.
All the specials felt a bit flat TBH but Blue Yonder was perhaps the only one that actually captured the spirit of Dr Who.
Another fantastic episode elle! ❤🎉
I am hoping Time of the Doctor will get a Target novelisation. Hell I'd love a target regeneration books box set, seriously Target, free money there with many stories to adapt.
Seriously though a Time of the Doctor novelisation can be as long as it wants, do as much as it wants because no budget needed when your imagination can do the job.
Jodie Whitaker defense drones for Daleks was an interesting idea. Which needed more development I'm actually kind of sad that it was not further developed for a story. Which I think should have had more development.