What I love about your channel is that you focus on new promising apps and not just the ones we all know like Obsidian, Notion etc. This is interesting because I always try to discover new solutions and expand my workflow by taking the best from each software and try to combine them..cause unfortunately! The perfect app doesn't exist!
Two questions Shu… 1. Does it use markdown, or will users be ‘trapped’ within the Tana infrastructure? 2. How about Output? Having an outliner is great but the useability, for most people depends on being able to output to blogs, websites and/or pdf. How do you get your writing/articles out? Thanks in advance. Mick.
Great review. I am a avid Notion user and really liked Tana. I tried logseq and obsidian but give up because I need databases for my workflow. I tried Capacities and its very promissing. Can’t wait to receive my Tana invitation!
Thanks for the review. For future app reviews: do you mind including how well you can navigate through the app by using the keyboard only. As far as I know Roam is the only app that allows the user to navigate by only using the keyboard. To me, that is a dealbreaker, since it speeds up the workflow tremendously, and saves your wrist/hand so you don't hurt. Thank you 🎹😃
Checkvist does this also. And does it well, but its primarily an outliner and doesnt quite have all the link features Roam has, but has other strengths that might fit someones needs.
I personally use Notion for university studies and TTRPG management, which can be quite cumbersome. It bothers me a lot, that there is a huge performance drain there and I would wish for a better offline support. Also I would wish for self-hosting support, which would improve it from a data security perspective.
What do you use for calendar and task there, Shu? And also do you think Notion would build a feature similar to Tana’s Supertag soon? Cause imagine having that there, and the acquisition of Cron too! Would make Notion super powerful :O
I struggle with note taking so much.. I need a notes app for songwriting that syncs on all my devices (bear doesn't sync well and Evernote is messy) and medical school (where I can take notes on pdfs on my Mac and that is not internet dependent..).. just something easy, ergonomic and nicely designed. I don't mind paying but not too pricy and it needs to get the job done. why is it so hard to find ? I still use the original notes app to this day, it's not the best but its certainly the best amongst everything iv'e tried at least for songwriting :/
Obsidian is far more flexible with panels, tabs and windows but Tana is better than most others. Thanks for the overview. As someone testing out Tana at the moment it is interesting but I don't see it replacing my Obsidian use.
Thank you for explaining this so well. What would you recommend for digital planning for me? I have 3 or 4 projects at a time and tasks within projects. I like to see all projects and tasks on one page initially to assess what I should do for the day. Then I like to prioritize and have to do lists. Possibly also link word documents to the tasks. Is this the sort of thing that an online tool could help with?
I really like your review on note-apps also your way to introduce the app, which really is engaging. After I saw your review on tana, I soon become the fan of the app after check other reviews on this, especially after using obsidian, logseq, notion, and roam. Do you still have the invite of tana? Queue on waiting list takes so long...
people have been waiting for access for about a month and very few people have gotten access. Not sure its coming any time soon. Not sure the team can cope with the level of interest - predicting it will crash and burn within 6 months unless they open up more invites soon.
Ty shu... I get irritated by the fact that new things come out and therefore I get shiny object syndrome. But I feel this is q very good product and I can already see how I would use it. My issue is how much it would cost and can it be used offline like logseq.
Idk how it is different from Notion. The super tag is just another database. The only difference is you can amend the property without clicking into the page /node
Yeah, I would consider to drop Notion for Tana, but like its said on video, for most Notion users would be a overkill. For power users who loves to build complicated systems its awesome.
How many folks here waste more time looking at, trying, lusting after new amazing tools, rather than knuckling down and getting on with it with the last one they loved? I'm back to Roam, despite the hipsters deserting it...
I am using notion for medical notes. I have lots of screenshots/pictures of lecture then I write my own notes under the screenshot. This is making notion very laggy and slow to load. Is it better in Tana? Does anyone else have this issue and can suggest a fix? Thanks
Hardly anyone is using this app. It needs to be looked at but many people are not willing to take out a monthly sub for PKM so obsidian/logseq are here to stay. I've noticed there are a lot of content creators hoping to get views. 100k shu, it obviously worked compared with the last 30 videos.
May anyone help me with an invite if you are an existing user? Many thanks in advance. I have seen more than dozens of tutorials but still stuck on the waiting list. 😅
Its not useful for long form writing. i.e. more than a single paragraph. Has no markdown. Interface is busy, busy, busy. Its overkill for me. Its trying to be all things to all people, and not best at anything. Its an overly complex database tool when compared to Notion. It cannot do markdown formatted long form writing And it is an over complex to-do app ... without a mobile app. Will stick to Roam for now ... and switch to something Roam-like, when it eventually dies ..
Hi Shu, quick question: can you use the exact same video ( the graphic contents ) but just add Japanese subtitle + voiceover in another Channel. Will youtube flag it? Congrats on the new channel launched🎉
FFS! These "productivity" RUclipsrs need to be stopped from hyping apps or services as the next big thing. I'm positive these RUclipsrs DO NOT USE these products after a couple of months and go for the next shiny thing. Sorry, Shu Omi, I'm just annoyed and irritated with these hype videos. JUST USE APPLE NOTES or plain text apps like Simplenote or Standard Notes. The majority of people do not need this crap. Rant Over!
I agree with you that most people would not use apps like Obsidian, Notion or Tana. But creators like Shu Omi makes content for a people like me that loves to see the next productivity tools that would make better their workfow. Go to your apple notes and chill dude.
Yet another SASS that might or might not be around in a year trapping your data in some propietary format in a server somewhere. It's doesn't even matter what it does, it's a hard pass.
@@tristen_grant Just asking that question shows that you're way out of your depth. there are thousands of options for a fucking app to survive without subscriptions, stop this madness! by paid version upgrades. by extras. by high cost. by number of users. for space hosted in the cloud if you use it. what is not fucking normal is that people don't look for and support lifetime apps, and go for the easy ones, I wish them all the worst, because there will come a day when their electricity and petrol bill will be lower than everything they use in apps, paying for something they don't own.
I'm tired of these notes apps. I'm planning to move to Android from iOS and I'm afraid there is NOTHING as fast, simple, practical, intuitive and ergonomical than the free Notes of MacOS and iOS.
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What I love about your channel is that you focus on new promising apps and not just the ones we all know like Obsidian, Notion etc. This is interesting because I always try to discover new solutions and expand my workflow by taking the best from each software and try to combine them..cause unfortunately! The perfect app doesn't exist!
I appreciate that Ahmed! Thank you :))
um using that many apps to be productive isnt actually productive. sticking with one app is better for the long run
Tana looks really cool but gives me the same worries as notion. Always online and not markdown based
obsidian?
@@quaffie logseq!
What about NotePlan3?
@@jeremymorris570 Thanks!
@@jeremymorris570 interesting
Awesome to know. But yes, it is overkill for me. I just do simple notes.
I use Obsidian (w/ OneDrive Sync) + Ms Calendar
I am not switching from obsidian . I love is so much
Two questions Shu…
1. Does it use markdown, or will users be ‘trapped’ within the Tana infrastructure?
2. How about Output? Having an outliner is great but the useability, for most people depends on being able to output to blogs, websites and/or pdf. How do you get your writing/articles out?
Thanks in advance. Mick.
I really doubt markdown is able to handle supertags propertly...
That would be a great text mess!
Why people needs markdown? Interoperability?
@@HiddenExp just long term reliability. in case tana ever collapses for some reason
@@HiddenExp Nobody owns markdown so you are not locked in or trapped to any ecosystem or platform
@@CrazyFanaticMan If the application opens its format would it be the same?
Tana looks like magic
Tana - also pushes the team/colab elements of the basic set up.
Great review. I am a avid Notion user and really liked Tana. I tried logseq and obsidian but give up because I need databases for my workflow. I tried Capacities and its very promissing. Can’t wait to receive my Tana invitation!
Me 2
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I only use apps online, currently Notion. I liked Roam Research, but the price drives me away. Tana looks amazing. Can't wait to try it out.
Yeah paying for a productivity app is absolutely ridiculous when there’s so many great options that are 100% free.
The closest app is Anytype, which is free and open source, but still in alpha. It is unbelievable.
Anytype is 100% offline with local backup. Even at alpha it's superb already. Plugins and opensource also in future. Anytype is greatness in making
Thank you for the tip about Anytype!
I immediately knew it was Tana just from reading the first half of the title
Thanks for the review. For future app reviews: do you mind including how well you can navigate through the app by using the keyboard only. As far as I know Roam is the only app that allows the user to navigate by only using the keyboard. To me, that is a dealbreaker, since it speeds up the workflow tremendously, and saves your wrist/hand so you don't hurt.
Thank you 🎹😃
Gotcha! Thanks for your suggestion ☺️🙏
Checkvist does this also. And does it well, but its primarily an outliner and doesnt quite have all the link features Roam has, but has other strengths that might fit someones needs.
Great application !! Thank you for the discovery 🙂
I personally use Notion for university studies and TTRPG management, which can be quite cumbersome. It bothers me a lot, that there is a huge performance drain there and I would wish for a better offline support. Also I would wish for self-hosting support, which would improve it from a data security perspective.
It looks almost perfect for me. I hope the free version (they're working on it) has most of the features. I also need a Desktop app for Windows.
need everything?
@@varatharajandhamotharan1511 Probably not everything but we'll see what the free version has to offer.
I’ve just recently discovered Notion and now found your excellent review of Tana. Great discussion. How does one get an invite for Tana? 😊
Anytype is another app in development, is an alternative to Notion but open source!
Why not org mode? It syncs flawlessly to logseq on my phone and has as much functionality as I want it to have
What do you use for calendar and task there, Shu? And also do you think Notion would build a feature similar to Tana’s Supertag soon?
Cause imagine having that there, and the acquisition of Cron too! Would make Notion super powerful :O
Hey Reuben, I use Amplenote for task and calendar :)
@@ShuOmi_Official dankee
Great overview, Shu! And thank you for the Twos shoutout towards the end ❤
No worries! 🎉
I struggle with note taking so much.. I need a notes app for songwriting that syncs on all my devices (bear doesn't sync well and Evernote is messy) and medical school (where I can take notes on pdfs on my Mac and that is not internet dependent..).. just something easy, ergonomic and nicely designed. I don't mind paying but not too pricy and it needs to get the job done. why is it so hard to find ? I still use the original notes app to this day, it's not the best but its certainly the best amongst everything iv'e tried at least for songwriting :/
I know lots of medical students use RemNote for studying! Also, I think it lets you import pdfs and annotate on them.
Workflowy has supposedly been working on something like supertags for a long time. Interested to try this out!
Obsidian with his plugins is still the best
Everyone is using it? More like everyone is on the waitlist for it.
Obsidian is far more flexible with panels, tabs and windows but Tana is better than most others.
Thanks for the overview. As someone testing out Tana at the moment it is interesting but I don't see it replacing my Obsidian use.
That's ok but why do you say that everywhere lmao, nobody is gonna take away your obsidian from you
was it able to download, i want to get it right now
Thank you for explaining this so well. What would you recommend for digital planning for me? I have 3 or 4 projects at a time and tasks within projects. I like to see all projects and tasks on one page initially to assess what I should do for the day. Then I like to prioritize and have to do lists. Possibly also link word documents to the tasks. Is this the sort of thing that an online tool could help with?
sounds like you would like Notion, but I dont think it allows you to link word documents.
ClickUp
when will this app be accessable?
I really like your review on note-apps also your way to introduce the app, which really is engaging. After I saw your review on tana, I soon become the fan of the app after check other reviews on this, especially after using obsidian, logseq, notion, and roam. Do you still have the invite of tana? Queue on waiting list takes so long...
“Everyone” that got an invite is using it right now. The rest of us are still waiting.
people have been waiting for access for about a month and very few people have gotten access. Not sure its coming any time soon. Not sure the team can cope with the level of interest - predicting it will crash and burn within 6 months unless they open up more invites soon.
They’ve opened it to every single content creator in the PKM space. Smart for building hype, annoying for everyone else.
Yeah but does it allow me to do long-form writing AS WELL?!?
What is your fav task management tool and would love to see a comparison among the available ones
looks awesome🎉
Hey! I got a cameo! Love your work, Shu Omi.
Ty shu... I get irritated by the fact that new things come out and therefore I get shiny object syndrome. But I feel this is q very good product and I can already see how I would use it. My issue is how much it would cost and can it be used offline like logseq.
what do you think about AnyType?
Haven’t used it for awhile - will check it out again soon!!
2 weeks waiting for my invite, this app looks like my future wife
Just a quick question; if I were using roam could I easily move all of my notes etc to this?
Good stuff @Shu
This is so similar to Remnote 👀
Will this be like Obsidian, will this be available for iPad? Can this be sync across all platform? :) Thanks
Any always online app is pretty much an instant no from me. Looks cool tho
Reminds me of Workflowy
Will it maybe a sync to markdown files or GitHub repo?
Do you have any concerns with storing all your information in the Tana cloud? Thank you
Out of interest where do you save your normal data?
What is the task management app you were using?
AmpleNote?
Amplenote :) I got a bunch of videos about it if you're curious!
Seems painful to split stuff over multiple apps
So basically Craft 2.0?
i like it, I am a very complicated person myself
Idk how it is different from Notion.
The super tag is just another database.
The only difference is you can amend the property without clicking into the page /node
Is there a plugin in obsidian wich allows to use supertag ?
nah.. I'm just sticking to the apps I"m using already and continuing extending my use of Emacs
Great summary and review! As a “hobbyist” myself I am excited to get my invite and play 😂
how to get access, i am in waitlist
It’s online without local db, so everything else doesn’t matter, unfortunately
Which app do you use for the timeblock functionality ?
I believe he uses AmpleNote
I like notion but its uses too much ram i cant trust it it too fit all my notes
i only like note apps that can search up text in my drawings, sketches and photos or videos.
Looks similar to Obsidian.
Do people not use google docs any more for cloud note taking? Lol
How can everybody use this app when only a very limited number of people is even let in the beta(?) testing
Would love a free trial
Hola Shu 👋🏻
Hola Steven✌️
The hype is very weird!
People are dropping Obsidian, Notion and Logseq for this!
I literally have a video called "What the heck is Tana" coming this week !
why is it weird?
I don't know of anyone dropping Obsidian, just lots trying it out and using Tana for some things but not dropping it all together.
Yeah, I would consider to drop Notion for Tana, but like its said on video, for most Notion users would be a overkill. For power users who loves to build complicated systems its awesome.
Hahaha can’t waittttt!
One year later, and we’re still in Beta! 😂
How many folks here waste more time looking at, trying, lusting after new amazing tools, rather than knuckling down and getting on with it with the last one they loved? I'm back to Roam, despite the hipsters deserting it...
Reminds me of Remnote
I am using notion for medical notes. I have lots of screenshots/pictures of lecture then I write my own notes under the screenshot. This is making notion very laggy and slow to load. Is it better in Tana? Does anyone else have this issue and can suggest a fix? Thanks
would also love a tipp how to solve this issue. Would Obsidian be faster??
Capacities would be great for such use case. Give it a look.
Hardly anyone is using this app. It needs to be looked at but many people are not willing to take out a monthly sub for PKM so obsidian/logseq are here to stay. I've noticed there are a lot of content creators hoping to get views. 100k shu, it obviously worked compared with the last 30 videos.
Why did you record this in a lift (with the constant repeating dumb elevator music track)?
Not everyone. I don't.
Unbiased pro tip: Just use Notion...
Correction: not everyone - I don't use it
2024 still waiting for public release
I’m not using it 😂
May anyone help me with an invite if you are an existing user? Many thanks in advance. I have seen more than dozens of tutorials but still stuck on the waiting list. 😅
Why is everyone using this note app? I’m not. Matter of fact, I never even heard of this app. 👋🏾
So complicated interface. Lol
too complex again
Its not useful for long form writing. i.e. more than a single paragraph. Has no markdown. Interface is busy, busy, busy. Its overkill for me.
Its trying to be all things to all people, and not best at anything.
Its an overly complex database tool when compared to Notion.
It cannot do markdown formatted long form writing
And it is an over complex to-do app ... without a mobile app.
Will stick to Roam for now ... and switch to something Roam-like, when it eventually dies ..
Hey Shu! Can you speak Japanese? Would you consider doing a video in Japanese 😇🙏
Yep! I've actually started a Japanese channel a few weeks ago: ruclips.net/channel/UCxUYZzMsxciRoHcAu-aPgEA
@@ShuOmi_Official That's so cool!!! subscribed 🙌
Hi Shu, quick question: can you use the exact same video ( the graphic contents ) but just add Japanese subtitle + voiceover in another Channel. Will youtube flag it?
Congrats on the new channel launched🎉
This is a copy of Remnotes and that is better
FFS! These "productivity" RUclipsrs need to be stopped from hyping apps or services as the next big thing. I'm positive these RUclipsrs DO NOT USE these products after a couple of months and go for the next shiny thing. Sorry, Shu Omi, I'm just annoyed and irritated with these hype videos. JUST USE APPLE NOTES or plain text apps like Simplenote or Standard Notes. The majority of people do not need this crap. Rant Over!
hey, you should watch the video until the end
DUDE, why so angry.Just let people said what they want .
I agree with you that most people would not use apps like Obsidian, Notion or Tana. But creators like Shu Omi makes content for a people like me that loves to see the next productivity tools that would make better their workfow. Go to your apple notes and chill dude.
@@kevenreis224 More power to you. Have fun.
@@alexandriathera1153 And, I will say what I want. It works both ways mate.
Yet another SASS that might or might not be around in a year trapping your data in some propietary format in a server somewhere.
It's doesn't even matter what it does, it's a hard pass.
What do you use, mate?
What is the last platform that everyone got onto that shut down after a year that everyone lost their notes on?
another fucking monthly payment, NOT, it's time to stop this no-sense!
How should the app make money?
@@tristen_grant Just asking that question shows that you're way out of your depth.
there are thousands of options for a fucking app to survive without subscriptions, stop this madness!
by paid version upgrades.
by extras.
by high cost.
by number of users.
for space hosted in the cloud if you use it.
what is not fucking normal is that people don't look for and support lifetime apps, and go for the easy ones, I wish them all the worst, because there will come a day when their electricity and petrol bill will be lower than everything they use in apps, paying for something they don't own.
I'm tired of these notes apps. I'm planning to move to Android from iOS and I'm afraid there is NOTHING as fast, simple, practical, intuitive and ergonomical than the free Notes of MacOS and iOS.
Locked in, online, subscription based when it's released. No thanks. What is with the clickbait, untruth title? Unsubbed.
Just like your video "Why is EVERYONE Using This Note App?? | Tana Review". Nonsense.
$10/month for a note taking app is $9.9 too much. It doesn't really offer that much extra compared to free alternatives like joplin.