man of wisdom very intelligent man I salute him and I pray may Allah bless him with his mecry.hugo chavez was a man of courage who stood up for the truth
@B olton So the only thing that socialist country needs from capitalist country is food and medicine? Can US possibly block all sources of medicine or just shit money can't buy anything of real value?
First off my wife is venezuelan. I hear her families struggles everday. Many have been kidnapped on multiple occasions,they can't find a decent job, and ironically enough they have to drive around to 5 different gas stations before they are able to find petrol(in Venezuela!!!). Is he directly affecting me? NO. But as a compassionate human I feel for the people of his country and other countries who don't know what it is like to live with real freedoms and without fear.
Socialist dominate systems don't work. You need a mixed economy that combines capitalism and socialism to some degree. That's what you'll find in Norway which has oil like Venezuela. Their oil is run by the state but most other industries are run by the private sector.
"Their oil is run by the state but most other industries are run by the private sector." yeah, just like in Venezuela that has a smaller public sector than norway and one of the most privatized healthcare systems in the americas. That said, real socialism does work, Yugoslavia ftw.
Hugo Chavez is amazing I dont support all socialist policies as a Muslim but the most important thing is that we both support an interest free banking system which frees people from the corrupt elite and empowers the people
Personally, I think Hugo Chavez will forever go down in both Venezuelan and world history as a man who made profound changes in his country. In spite of the recent problems in Venezuela, I am quite certain that the problems will NOT last long.
As much as I would like to see that happen, unfortunately it won't. Venezuela has the third largest oil and gas reserves in the world. Maybe you've noticed that despite the economic crisis, people are still driving, America is still buying, and after a short hiatius, gas prices are still climbing. Like it or not, with billions of dollars flowing in everyday, Chavez is here to stay. In Venezuela, a country where half the population lived in poverty only 10 years ago, he has become a hero.
This man is a genious, djar53. In the face of Israels acts of aggression his was the only country to make a real stance. In the face of the economical crisis, his is the country that does the right thing. You would call him a dictator, but he is elected by the people. His country is no more on the verge of collapse than the entire world is because of the financial crisis, the one that the US brought about.
"One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary." -Ayn Rand, 1975
I have no idea how he really runs his country, but all I know is that is we could have more people like him, based on his speech, the world whould be running a lot smoother!
I really feel for the venezuelan people like you. People in countries like England and US don't understand how lucky they are to live in freedom...............!
"The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear." -Heinrich Himmler, Long live Comander Chavez!!!!
The primary criticism leveled against price controls is that by keeping prices artificially low, demand is increased to the point where supply can not keep up, leading to shortages in the price-controlled product. -------------------------- Now isn't that Venezuela's real problem?
Rafael Caldera, president from 1969-74 won re-election in '94 aged 78(20years later?!) the country was sent reeling and investor confidence plummeted with his policies: suspension of economic guarentees, 66% devaulation of the bolivar, return of price controls and a 1000% increase OVERNIGHT in gasoline prices.
I DEEPLY ADMIRED TO HUGO CHAVEZ, HE GOT THE GUTS TO SAY WHAT OTHER MANY PEOPLE(INCLUDING ME) WOULD LIKE TO SAY. VIVA CHAVEZ. CHAVEZ TE ADMIRO PROFUNDAMENTE Y TE RESPETO PROFUNDAMENTE. SALUDOS Y MI ADMIRACION DESDE MEXICO D.F.
You said it: Statist. In real practice, merit gets relegated down, while personal connections and toadyism wins. He who kisses the leader's behind gets promoted, while those who work hard, and point out mistakes are punished. Show an example of a socialist state, there the state is considered to be what the people serve, and not what serves the people, that hasn't ended up as a cruel dictatorship or an economic ruin.
The venezuelans that love Chavez don't speak english. Yet. For saying truth about the process over there. It's not possible change 200 years of injustice immediately. But he is doing the job. That's a fact
This guy's got style and swagger. Plus he's smart and straightforward and he cares for his people. So what if he's a dictator? That can be a good thing. I'd rather have a strong leader like this for life instead of greedy fucktards every 4-8 years. Don't kid yourselves, American 'democracy' only goes so far.
The problem is that Chavez is an elected President who has displayed no criminal tendencies (in reality, as opposed to the myth and fantasy which constitute much of the opposition's argument) & compared to the opposition themselves, who have murdered quite a few people. Perhaps if the US didn't have such an extreme economic system and pose such a violent existential threat to Venezuela then perhaps Chavez would not be seen as a threat or feel the need to fight so hard to survive. I'm with him.
Sometimes is necesary violence for to attain a perfect comunist state. In Venezuela revolutionaries we get many many weapons to defeat capitalism. As Stalin say: One man with a gun can control 100 without one. "The goal of socialism is communism." Live Venezuelan Bolivarian Comunism.
According to 1975how.That's not even true pro, when I was a younger and poorer I had no cell phone and still don't own a house more like rent. And I'm a born citizen in the U.S.
I am not against socialism as long as it has full transparency and a free press. And of course, positive incentives to prevent people getting lazy and stop striving for things.
well let me help you all with facts Venezuela has the fastest growing economy in the Americas, the lowest unenployement rate in Venezuelan history not only that, the world right now is in economical tormoil and venezuelas economy is stable so he is not just a show man, he is a good president. My only ctriticism is crime rate in Venezuela has gone up
I can't speak for other countries. But I can speak for mine. America got to be rich because it produces products that the rest of the world wants.America doesn't force anyone to buy it's goods. It just so happens that Americans are very inventive and generally smart and know how to produce goods. And the world is a better place because of it. I think the world seems to lose site on what the world be without the U.S. Theres not a person in the world that hasn't used a product from the U. S.
To 123forever. Forget about marxism, Lenin or whatever. Its not about that, its about justice. Fairness. Demolish imperialism. We are better than that. Thats what he want and thats what the majority of this world wants. I live in Norway, rated as one of the "best" countries to live in. But I am ashamed of the western worlds history. The change has to come, but it has to come from the western world. If not, well then Hugo Chavez and his alikes will fight the unjust. And I am with them. rEVOLution
Refining petrol was at an all-time high in the 1970s, but HALF of the countries children DID NOT go to school. On May 20 1993 the then president of Venezuela, Carlos Andres Perez, was indicted for the theft of more than $7 million and he got 2 years, yet another president involved in extramarital liasons, Perez subsequently left his wife to take up his mistress... New charges were later pressed against Perez, who was over the age of 70, and his mistress Cecila Matos for having secret accounts
In a free market system, there are no recessions or depressions. If you read history you will discover that all depressions and recessions were caused by gov intervention. In the US, industry is highly regulated. In the banking sector, there are laws that say that a percentage of loans must be to low income individuals. This isn't the banks choice. If they dont comply, they will be fined or worse. A bank should make loans to individuals who they feel are a good investment.
"Extreme poverty has been decreased from 19,2% in 1997 to 8,1% in 2008" i bet thats why there has been a massive exodus of ppl frpom that country and crime is at an all time high
I think that a little socialism in capitalist societies is a good thing. I can't even pretend to have a full grasp on these things, but I belive Canada is on the right track.
I like some core ideas of Hugo Chavez, but I'm also critical. Do you have reliable information I could read about this you said? Link to news, a book, mb? Thank you!
It's very interesting to note that Chavez is a socialist but he has not nationalized the entire nation as of yet and he more than likely won't because he actually listens to his constituents. I'm not a socialist but I do admire his opposition to U.S. fascism and his boldness on calling out the U.S. on its hypocrisy and obscene corruption. Here they villify him constantly, but that just goes to show how our media in the States is controlled by the govt.
Christianity contains very revolutionary aspects in its teachings that reject wealth at the expense of others, which should be highlighted in theological study.
its good to see him speaking the truth, although i'm libertarian. socialism is half way to dictatorship to me, wouldn't it make sense to have real power to the people such as free trade and free market and freedom to property and rights? doesn't that put the power of the people back in the peoples hands? not a single person like Hugo?
Para la consecuencia de sus ideas el Presidente Hugo Chavez ES UN EJEMPO. Gracias presidente por devolvernos la dignidad la esperanza la ambicion , a travez de hechos y no de promezas al viento. Provocas en nosotros el reconocimiento de valores que debemos respetar para un avenir mejor.
@IntractableJ I said per capita GDP in my comment. The reason for unaffordable healthcare has at least 3 main causes. One, illegal immigrants receive free medical care (no country has as many as the US). Two, the tax code billing health insurance to employers, encouraging the use of health insurance for procedures. Three, regulations making doctors liable for honest mistakes. The fact that the US retains the most advanced medical technology is a testament to the resilience of capitalism.
I'm an anarchist (libertarian socialism) but I like Chavez. I'd much rather have his socialism spreading throughout the world than rapacious neoliberal capitalism. Unrestricted Mammonism. I hope Latin America continues to turn leftward and I hope that leftward turn continues to spread to Asia and Africa. Viva Socialismo!
"Oh, come on, you're actually counting Soviet military casualties during WWII as deaths caused by capitalism? " No, i wasnt. Where did i say that? i'm still waiting for the methodology.
227Morgan: I live in Sweden and it does NOT work. Unemployment is through the roof, the state loans money since even the high taxes aren't enough to pay for all the crap they do, old companies (like Volvo & Saab) are held on to like our very existence depends on them. Socialism works well until you run out of other people's money. Sweden used to have less tax and freer market than USA (1920's), and today we live of the wealth generated back then, and it's starting to run out...
well Chavez is really smart man in fact that is why Venezuela right now it has most stable economy in south and central America. and today Venezuela is the 1st & only country of central America the has Satellite. Satellite Simón Bolívar. !!Patria, Socialismos o Muerte - Venceremos!!
The world needs an exact reckoning of "native" lives lost by U.S. military engagements in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen. Add to these, special operations by marines, DEA and mercenaries in parts of Africa, Central/ South America, and Georgia. The killing fields are extensive. American terror is global. In contrast, the USSR was an amateur in setting up gulags and secret police activities. But the empire is falling through its arrogance, GameSheriff.
Oh yeh, the Indians were loving their freedom of speech-despite the minor drawback of mass shootings and general oppression. Capitalism has been in force centuries longer than Communism. As a TRUE communism is a perfect world, we are the future.
...By 1997 the middle class had all but disappeared with an incredible 90.5% of the population living below poverty(68% considered at a level of extreme poverty) according to official statistics. Frustrations of professionals unable to purchase basic items led to a wave of strikes from the public sector. Former coup leader Chavez threw his "red" beret into the ring for the 1998 presidental elections and the rest as they say is history!
In the Soviet Union the people had to wait in long lines just to buy bread. Children go to bed hungry all over the world. The USSR was slow developing because the gov ran the show. Gov role should only be to police, establish courts, and have an army to protect the interests of the people.
Objectivists never take the unearned. Objectivists support free markest because it is the philosophy most congruent with real human nature and its moral. We dont support stomping on the poor. When times are bad people push for socialism, not realizing the socialistic policy is what caused this in the beginning.Under socialism, individuals do not have rights to their own lives and thier own property.
Look here we never discriminate nobody. Here in Venezuela we are blacks, coffe milk, white, blond, indian, halfindian, etc. Here always we treat people the same. It was Chavez the one who sembrate the hate in the poor people hearts. But now he's loosing credibality... even the Communist Party here has turned against him
I am driven by a persuit of logic, reason, and truth. If you bring up legitimate arguments against capitalism and how socialism is a superior view then I will consider it, I am not closed minded. Up to this point I have not had an opponent worthy of this. I have not been to Venezuela but I am sure the people are nice. I also enjoy the telenovelas from there. Chevere.
Not trying to be agressive, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't those protest out of right, given current regulations on "media social responsibility laws"? I just want to understand. As far as I know, this cable channels want to skip the measures that the government there have. Was not the government in its right? Unfortunate if a student was killed. How was the protest control? Were you there? someone you know? I just want to know more from first hand. Thanks!
We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. The only difference is we have to pay for it. It eliminates the free loaders. Why do people come from around the world to go to the Mayo Clinic ? Because it is the best in the world. See the U.S. is full of people who are responsible and do things for themselves and don't expect government to do everything for us. I guess we are just smarter and more responsible.
I would be the first to admit that the US overtaxes its citizens. The US gov regulates interest rates. They regulate big business and pass legislation to make it difficult to run good business. This only proves my point that it is gov involvement not business that has created these problems. There wasn't a free market, it wasn't given a chance. So you cant blame capitalism for this, blame the gov that thinks it knows better. Under socialism there is even more gov intervention.Open your eyes.
@raulcitraro. I'm with you. A proud American. God Bless you. We know the truth. My wife is from Mexico and just became a Citizen. She is proud to be here. Wouldn't dream going back to Mexico-fuck that. America is the most generous nation for sure. Capitalism is the best for sure. Leave these other idiots under their rocks. GOD BLESS THE USA!!
why is socialism bullshit??? Just because you don't understand or scared of it doesn't mean it's bullshit!! Oh and i love your earlier quote that says that the 'media' is a glorious truth telling enterprise. Most media is biased one way or the other!!
The fact is that the revolutionary goverment of Chávez open a new way gives power to the people, using the new laws, creating institutions y talking day by day about be joined, be productive, work in the favor of the poorest... who think taht the exercise of goverment is justified only to beneficate the richest persons, bankers, big managers, medias owners, won't agree whit his politics, we know. The fact is that is our president and the process of changing the world is active
I am from the U.S... Capitalism not socialism helped my life. I was born poor and I made it on my own. I worked hard because that's what I had to do. The U.S. isn't a callous place. We have programs to help and feed the poor. But, without incentive you'll never have innovation and growth. Chavez is renaming his gas stations in the U.S. because we stopped buying from his gas stations. You can keep your oil and you can keep your socialism...
@Someideasandstuff Canada, Britain, Australia, and Germany are all shifting towards more market based systems. Socialized systems bring with them a whole new set of problems like ageism, waiting lists, technological stagnation and are being voluntarily abandoned in western democracies. I would predict that if these countries had stuck with them, life expectancy would have fallen over the course of 50 years. Also, the US system is much closer to Canada's than what I'd consider "free."
The funny thing is the absurd lengths people go to slam Chavez. Some people try to prove his totalitarianism by saying that Venezuelan TV networks are not showing The Simpsons(!)
All Chavez has been accused of officially is that he has a strong following in the Police force and that his relatives have been aspiring to relativly high positions in Venezuela.
" People still don't get it. No you don't mix the two. The two do not mix, they absolutely detract one another." Well it can depend on the mixed economy. The U.S has alwaysed been a mixed economy that leans towards capitalism. The U.S gov't covers things like public schools,police and fire departments,the military,electricity and road/highway construction which aids capitalism as far as transporting goods.
Of course it was never implemented in the world 100%, but I would have to say neither was capitalism. 100% capitalism would mean no free health care AT ALL, even in emergency cases, no unemployment fee and even no retirement pays if we exagerate a little bit, and 100% communism would mean absolute equality and it can`t be implemented because of the human nature in my opinion, since corruption is an important issue in this case...
@Someideasandstuff If you didn't understand, the people CAN'T get rid of him in 2013 anymore. Oh, things won't end well there. And, unfortunately, we'll have to witness this. The loss of 40% of the seats in the National Assembly means that Chavez has lost much of his acclaimed unanimity. And this change simply reflects what people think NOW. I want to read what you'll write when the Venezuelan soil be drenched in blood.
@Someideasandstuff I'm looking over some stats and I really fail to see what's so great about Chavez's Venezuela. They have close to 30% inflation. This means that Chavez has instituted a defacto 30% regressive (affecting poor more than rich) consumption tax. Their economy is completely dependent on oil and, due to his "economic war on the burgeoisie owners", people are having trouble getting food. None of this is surprising; food shortages are part and parcel of socialist dictatorships.
Yes, you are right when you say that the Stalinist Warsaw pact countries were not communist, since they hadn't anything communist excepting the economy, but I refered to them this way since the Marxist idea of communism is pretty philosophic, and can`t be really applied. By the way, I red the communist manifesto if that's the text you are referring to.
Yo soy Comunista bolivariano. Es más soy Trosquista-Leninista. En venezuela ese es nuestro único camino ¡patria comunismo o muerte! Yo también gano mis reales bien ganados. Si uno hace su trabajo con amor y cariño y le dan ese regalo de real quien lo va a rechazar. Es mío y lo merezco-. ¡Viva el Che! ¡Viva el Comandante!
Oraciones de Mexico 🇲🇽 Que el recuerdo de Hugo Chávez viva para siempre!
man of wisdom very intelligent man I salute him and I pray may Allah bless him with his mecry.hugo chavez was a man of courage who stood up for the truth
So wise he ruined the country with the biggest oil reserve.
Chavez! Great Speech!
Long live Socialism!
The future is difficult to predict. Unless you introduce socialism in a country. Its ease to predict what will happen then......
dosen't matter whenever i watch this video.
its give me a spirit to fight against injustice.
Viva Chavez! ¡Viva Venezuela!
Siddhesh Sawant i hope you can read and watch what is happening today in venezuela, you dumb ass
Manuka Snakes bosadike you read newspaper and media report which is owned by Zionist and America is a dalal of zioNist.
@B olton So the only thing that socialist country needs from capitalist country is food and medicine? Can US possibly block all sources of medicine or just shit money can't buy anything of real value?
First off my wife is venezuelan. I hear her families struggles everday. Many have been kidnapped on multiple occasions,they can't find a decent job, and ironically enough they have to drive around to 5 different gas stations before they are able to find petrol(in Venezuela!!!). Is he directly affecting me? NO. But as a compassionate human I feel for the people of his country and other countries who don't know what it is like to live with real freedoms and without fear.
what did the socialist use before candles? electricity
4th day now no electricity.
i love this men..he give new and fresh hope to the oppressed.long live presidente.
Socialist dominate systems don't work. You need a mixed economy that combines capitalism and socialism to some degree. That's what you'll find in Norway which has oil like Venezuela. Their oil is run by the state but most other industries are run by the private sector.
"Their oil is run by the state but most other industries are run by the private sector." yeah, just like in Venezuela that has a smaller public sector than norway and one of the most privatized healthcare systems in the americas. That said, real socialism does work, Yugoslavia ftw.
Hugo Chavez is amazing
I dont support all socialist policies as a Muslim but the most important thing is that we both support an interest free banking system which frees people from the corrupt elite and empowers the people
Personally, I think Hugo Chavez will forever go down in both Venezuelan and world history as a man who made profound changes in his country. In spite of the recent problems in Venezuela, I am quite certain that the problems will NOT last long.
Robert Polanco IGNORANT! To say Chavez meant any good.
@Oscar Lima - SCREW YOU, SCOUNDREL!
Robert Polanco i am guessing you are a Supporter of Castro Regime as well and I am the dishonest one here. Lol 😂 what a fool
Well this comment was one year ago, things seem to be a shitload worse. I guess socialism doesn’t work.
As much as I would like to see that happen, unfortunately it won't. Venezuela has the third largest oil and gas reserves in the world. Maybe you've noticed that despite the economic crisis, people are still driving, America is still buying, and after a short hiatius, gas prices are still climbing.
Like it or not, with billions of dollars flowing in everyday, Chavez is here to stay. In Venezuela, a country where half the population lived in poverty only 10 years ago, he has become a hero.
HUGO CHAVEZ IS ALIVE. HE IS NOT DEAD !!
in your ass
This man is a genious, djar53. In the face of Israels acts of aggression his was the only country to make a real stance. In the face of the economical crisis, his is the country that does the right thing. You would call him a dictator, but he is elected by the people. His country is no more on the verge of collapse than the entire world is because of the financial crisis, the one that the US brought about.
God bless Hugo Chavez. Respect from Venezuela
The most authentic president of today! All over the world! respect ! Greetings from hungary
"One of the methods used by statists to destroy capitalism consists in establishing controls that tie a given industry hand and foot, making it unable to solve its problems, then declaring that freedom has failed and stronger controls are necessary."
-Ayn Rand, 1975
Workers of all lands unite.lets build a Classless Stateless Moneyless socialist society.
I have no idea how he really runs his country, but all I know is that is we could have more people like him, based on his speech, the world whould be running a lot smoother!
I really feel for the venezuelan people like you. People in countries like England and US don't understand how lucky they are to live in freedom...............!
There was no failures in Cuba. Cuba was a huge success.
"The best political weapon is the weapon of terror. Cruelty commands respect. Men may hate us. But, we don't ask for their love; only for their fear." -Heinrich Himmler, Long live Comander Chavez!!!!
Yes, let him talk. And talk and talk.
You know what?
THE BEST PROPAGANDA AGAINST SOCIALISM
IS TO LET A SOCIALIST TALK.
Great Paulo Francis.
The primary criticism leveled against price controls is that by keeping prices artificially low, demand is increased to the point where supply can not keep up, leading to shortages in the price-controlled product.
--------------------------
Now isn't that Venezuela's real problem?
CHAVEZ IS THE GUY!
congratulations for the venezuela revolution!
Hugo Chavez is the man, we need more hugoss!!
VIVA CHAVEZ!
Rafael Caldera, president from 1969-74 won re-election in '94 aged 78(20years later?!) the country was sent reeling and investor confidence plummeted with his policies: suspension of economic guarentees, 66% devaulation of the bolivar, return of price controls and a 1000% increase OVERNIGHT in gasoline prices.
I DEEPLY ADMIRED TO HUGO CHAVEZ, HE GOT THE GUTS TO SAY WHAT OTHER MANY PEOPLE(INCLUDING ME) WOULD LIKE TO SAY. VIVA CHAVEZ. CHAVEZ TE ADMIRO PROFUNDAMENTE Y TE RESPETO PROFUNDAMENTE. SALUDOS Y MI ADMIRACION DESDE MEXICO D.F.
You said it: Statist. In real practice, merit gets relegated down, while personal connections and toadyism wins. He who kisses the leader's behind gets promoted, while those who work hard, and point out mistakes are punished. Show an example of a socialist state, there the state is considered to be what the people serve, and not what serves the people, that hasn't ended up as a cruel dictatorship or an economic ruin.
The venezuelans that love Chavez don't speak english. Yet. For saying truth about the process over there. It's not possible change 200 years of injustice immediately. But he is doing the job. That's a fact
This guy's got style and swagger. Plus he's smart and straightforward and he cares for his people. So what if he's a dictator? That can be a good thing. I'd rather have a strong leader like this for life instead of greedy fucktards every 4-8 years. Don't kid yourselves, American 'democracy' only goes so far.
The problem is that Chavez is an elected President who has displayed no criminal tendencies (in reality, as opposed to the myth and fantasy which constitute much of the opposition's argument) & compared to the opposition themselves, who have murdered quite a few people.
Perhaps if the US didn't have such an extreme economic system and pose such a violent existential threat to Venezuela then perhaps Chavez would not be seen as a threat or feel the need to fight so hard to survive.
I'm with him.
Sometimes is necesary violence for to attain a perfect comunist state. In Venezuela revolutionaries we get many many weapons to defeat capitalism. As Stalin say: One man with a gun can control 100 without one. "The goal of socialism is communism." Live Venezuelan Bolivarian Comunism.
If there were more leaders like Hugo Chavez in the world, maybe humanity's future wouldn't be so dark.
According to 1975how.That's not even true pro, when I was a younger and poorer I had no cell phone and still don't own a house more like rent. And I'm a born citizen in the U.S.
I am not against socialism as long as it has full transparency and a free press. And of course, positive incentives to prevent people getting lazy and stop striving for things.
well let me help you all with facts Venezuela has the fastest growing economy in the Americas, the lowest unenployement rate in Venezuelan history not only that, the world right now is in economical tormoil and venezuelas economy is stable so he is not just a show man, he is a good president. My only ctriticism is crime rate in Venezuela has gone up
I wished like the majority of americans that we had a leader like chavez..he actually helps the people..VIVA CHAVEZ
i like how chavez can talk like a real man. he doesnt need any teleprompter to tell him what he thinks
I can't speak for other countries. But I can speak for mine. America got to be rich because it produces products that the rest of the world wants.America doesn't force anyone to buy it's goods. It just so happens that Americans are very inventive and generally smart and know how to produce goods. And the world is a better place because of it. I think the world seems to lose site on what the world be without the U.S. Theres not a person in the world that hasn't used a product from the U. S.
"If they kill me, the problem will only get worse....."
To 123forever.
Forget about marxism, Lenin or whatever. Its not about that, its about justice. Fairness. Demolish imperialism. We are better than that. Thats what he want and thats what the majority of this world wants. I live in Norway, rated as one of the "best" countries to live in. But I am ashamed of the western worlds history. The change has to come, but it has to come from the western world. If not, well then Hugo Chavez and his alikes will fight the unjust. And I am with them. rEVOLution
viva chavez ı m from turkey ı love chavez he is against imperialism .he is great leader.ı send my respect to Venezuela
Refining petrol was at an all-time high in the 1970s, but HALF of the countries children DID NOT go to school. On May 20 1993 the then president of Venezuela, Carlos Andres Perez, was indicted for the theft of more than $7 million and he got 2 years, yet another president involved in extramarital liasons, Perez subsequently left his wife to take up his mistress... New charges were later pressed against Perez, who was over the age of 70, and his mistress Cecila Matos for having secret accounts
In a free market system, there are no recessions or depressions. If you read history you will discover that all depressions and recessions were caused by gov intervention. In the US, industry is highly regulated. In the banking sector, there are laws that say that a percentage of loans must be to low income individuals. This isn't the banks choice. If they dont comply, they will be fined or worse. A bank should make loans to individuals who they feel are a good investment.
"Extreme poverty has been decreased from 19,2% in 1997 to 8,1% in 2008"
i bet thats why there has been a massive exodus of ppl frpom that country and crime is at an all time high
"The constitution of America guarantees the right to happiness, but they (the American people) have to grab it themselves"
-Thomas Jefferson
I think that a little socialism in capitalist societies is a good thing. I can't even pretend to have a full grasp on these things, but I belive Canada is on the right track.
I like some core ideas of Hugo Chavez, but I'm also critical. Do you have reliable information I could read about this you said? Link to news, a book, mb? Thank you!
It's very interesting to note that Chavez is a socialist but he has not nationalized the entire nation as of yet and he more than likely won't because he actually listens to his constituents. I'm not a socialist but I do admire his opposition to U.S. fascism and his boldness on calling out the U.S. on its hypocrisy and obscene corruption. Here they villify him constantly, but that just goes to show how our media in the States is controlled by the govt.
Christianity contains very revolutionary aspects in its teachings that reject wealth at the expense of others, which should be highlighted in theological study.
its good to see him speaking the truth, although i'm libertarian. socialism is half way to dictatorship to me, wouldn't it make sense to have real power to the people such as free trade and free market and freedom to property and rights? doesn't that put the power of the people back in the peoples hands? not a single person like Hugo?
Para la consecuencia de sus ideas el Presidente Hugo Chavez ES UN EJEMPO.
Gracias presidente por devolvernos la dignidad la esperanza la ambicion , a travez de hechos y no de promezas al viento.
Provocas en nosotros el reconocimiento de valores que debemos respetar para un avenir mejor.
@IntractableJ I said per capita GDP in my comment. The reason for unaffordable healthcare has at least 3 main causes. One, illegal immigrants receive free medical care (no country has as many as the US). Two, the tax code billing health insurance to employers, encouraging the use of health insurance for procedures. Three, regulations making doctors liable for honest mistakes. The fact that the US retains the most advanced medical technology is a testament to the resilience of capitalism.
To visit both Cuba and Venaezuela, is one of my ambitions in life
Workers of all lands unite and abolish the slavery of the wages system.
I'm an anarchist (libertarian socialism) but I like Chavez. I'd much rather have his socialism spreading throughout the world than rapacious neoliberal capitalism. Unrestricted Mammonism.
I hope Latin America continues to turn leftward and I hope that leftward turn continues to spread to Asia and Africa. Viva Socialismo!
after 2017 crisis suddenly he is not a socialist anymore to you. right?
"Oh, come on, you're actually counting Soviet military casualties during WWII as deaths caused by capitalism? "
No, i wasnt. Where did i say that?
i'm still waiting for the methodology.
under Chavez -there is still hope for socialism --the way there was hope under Alexander Dubcek of czechoslovakia -long live the revolution!!!!
227Morgan: I live in Sweden and it does NOT work. Unemployment is through the roof, the state loans money since even the high taxes aren't enough to pay for all the crap they do, old companies (like Volvo & Saab) are held on to like our very existence depends on them.
Socialism works well until you run out of other people's money. Sweden used to have less tax and freer market than USA (1920's), and today we live of the wealth generated back then, and it's starting to run out...
They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.
-Benjamin Franklin
well Chavez is really smart man in fact that is why Venezuela right now it has most stable economy in south and central America.
and today Venezuela is the 1st & only country of central America the has Satellite.
Satellite Simón Bolívar.
!!Patria, Socialismos o Muerte - Venceremos!!
the best thing an ignorant can do it's to insult without argument... but that's life
I AM PROUD TO BE AN AMERICAN. GOD BLESS THE U.S.A!!
If I had to go to the hospital, I would want to pay for it, I wouldn't want it for free.
The world needs an exact reckoning of "native" lives lost by U.S. military engagements in Korea, Vietnam, Laos, Cambodia, Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Yemen. Add to these, special operations by marines, DEA and mercenaries in parts of Africa, Central/ South America, and Georgia. The killing fields are extensive. American terror is global.
In contrast, the USSR was an amateur in setting up gulags and secret police activities.
But the empire is falling through its arrogance, GameSheriff.
Oh yeh, the Indians were loving their freedom of speech-despite the minor drawback of mass shootings and general oppression.
Capitalism has been in force centuries longer than Communism. As a TRUE communism is a perfect world, we are the future.
...By 1997 the middle class had all but disappeared with an incredible 90.5% of the population living below poverty(68% considered at a level of extreme poverty) according to official statistics. Frustrations of professionals unable to purchase basic items led to a wave of strikes from the public sector.
Former coup leader Chavez threw his "red" beret into the ring for the 1998 presidental elections and the rest as they say is history!
In the Soviet Union the people had to wait in long lines just to buy bread. Children go to bed hungry all over the world. The USSR was slow developing because the gov ran the show. Gov role should only be to police, establish courts, and have an army to protect the interests of the people.
Objectivists never take the unearned. Objectivists support free markest because it is the philosophy most congruent with real human nature and its moral. We dont support stomping on the poor. When times are bad people push for socialism, not realizing the socialistic policy is what caused this in the beginning.Under socialism, individuals do not have rights to their own lives and thier own property.
Look here we never discriminate nobody. Here in Venezuela we are blacks, coffe milk, white, blond, indian, halfindian, etc. Here always we treat people the same. It was Chavez the one who sembrate the hate in the poor people hearts. But now he's loosing credibality... even the Communist Party here has turned against him
I am driven by a persuit of logic, reason, and truth. If you bring up legitimate arguments against capitalism and how socialism is a superior view then I will consider it, I am not closed minded. Up to this point I have not had an opponent worthy of this. I have not been to Venezuela but I am sure the people are nice. I also enjoy the telenovelas from there. Chevere.
Not trying to be agressive, correct me if I'm wrong, but weren't those protest out of right, given current regulations on "media social responsibility laws"? I just want to understand. As far as I know, this cable channels want to skip the measures that the government there have. Was not the government in its right? Unfortunate if a student was killed. How was the protest control? Were you there? someone you know? I just want to know more from first hand. Thanks!
We have one of the best healthcare systems in the world. The only difference is we have to pay for it. It eliminates the free loaders. Why do people come from around the world to go to the Mayo Clinic ? Because it is the best in the world. See the U.S. is full of people who are responsible and do things for themselves and don't expect government to do everything for us. I guess we are just smarter and more responsible.
I would be the first to admit that the US overtaxes its citizens. The US gov regulates interest rates. They regulate big business and pass legislation to make it difficult to run good business. This only proves my point that it is gov involvement not business that has created these problems. There wasn't a free market, it wasn't given a chance. So you cant blame capitalism for this, blame the gov that thinks it knows better. Under socialism there is even more gov intervention.Open your eyes.
@raulcitraro. I'm with you. A proud American. God Bless you. We know the truth. My wife is from Mexico and just became a Citizen. She is proud to be here. Wouldn't dream going back to Mexico-fuck that. America is the most generous nation for sure. Capitalism is the best for sure. Leave these other idiots under their rocks. GOD BLESS THE USA!!
@Chewu same guy, the one that talks about doing a lot of things and acomplishing nothing
why is socialism bullshit??? Just because you don't understand or scared of it doesn't mean it's bullshit!! Oh and i love your earlier quote that says that the 'media' is a glorious truth telling enterprise. Most media is biased one way or the other!!
The fact is that the revolutionary goverment of Chávez open a new way gives power to the people, using the new laws, creating institutions y talking day by day about be joined, be productive, work in the favor of the poorest... who think taht the exercise of goverment is justified only to beneficate the richest persons, bankers, big managers, medias owners, won't agree whit his politics, we know.
The fact is that is our president and the process of changing the world is active
I am from the U.S... Capitalism not socialism helped my life. I was born poor and I made it on my own. I worked hard because that's what I had to do. The U.S. isn't a callous place. We have programs to help and feed the poor. But, without incentive you'll never have innovation and growth. Chavez is renaming his gas stations in the U.S. because we stopped buying from his gas stations. You can keep your oil and you can keep your socialism...
@Someideasandstuff Canada, Britain, Australia, and Germany are all shifting towards more market based systems. Socialized systems bring with them a whole new set of problems like ageism, waiting lists, technological stagnation and are being voluntarily abandoned in western democracies. I would predict that if these countries had stuck with them, life expectancy would have fallen over the course of 50 years. Also, the US system is much closer to Canada's than what I'd consider "free."
Its amazing how happy people get when they finally get a president who will actually feed them!
Long live Chavez and the Bolivarian Revolution. In solidarity from USA.
God bless Hugo Chavez. Respect from Ireland.
Que vivan todo los pueblos de el mundo!
The funny thing is the absurd lengths people go to slam Chavez. Some people try to prove his totalitarianism by saying that Venezuelan TV networks are not showing The Simpsons(!)
@Rospi123 , You are right!!!, your comment was extremely silly. Let me help you next time.
All Chavez has been accused of officially is that he has a strong following in the Police force and that his relatives have been aspiring to relativly high positions in Venezuela.
'if they kill me , the problem will only get worse' :)
" People still don't get it. No you don't mix the two. The two do not mix, they absolutely detract one another."
Well it can depend on the mixed economy. The U.S has alwaysed been a mixed economy that leans towards capitalism. The U.S gov't covers things like public schools,police and fire departments,the military,electricity and road/highway construction which aids capitalism as far as transporting goods.
@loraodosamba , The U.S.A is the most generous country in the world and, I AM PROUD OF BEING AN AMERICAN!!
too Sad, I used to listen his speech, now I listen economical crisis, may lord have mercy on him wherever he is now
Of course it was never implemented in the world 100%, but I would have to say neither was capitalism. 100% capitalism would mean no free health care AT ALL, even in emergency cases, no unemployment fee and even no retirement pays if we exagerate a little bit, and 100% communism would mean absolute equality and it can`t be implemented because of the human nature in my opinion, since corruption is an important issue in this case...
As we speak Chavez is being asked to resign by some former supporters. The over regulations that come with socialism aren't good for an economy.
@Someideasandstuff
If you didn't understand, the people CAN'T get rid of him in 2013 anymore.
Oh, things won't end well there. And, unfortunately, we'll have to witness this.
The loss of 40% of the seats in the National Assembly means that Chavez has lost much of
his acclaimed unanimity.
And this change simply reflects what people think NOW.
I want to read what you'll write when the Venezuelan soil be drenched in blood.
'The US is a country run by the FEW for the FEW!' Hilary Clinton. I Agree!
@Someideasandstuff I'm looking over some stats and I really fail to see what's so great about Chavez's Venezuela. They have close to 30% inflation. This means that Chavez has instituted a defacto 30% regressive (affecting poor more than rich) consumption tax. Their economy is completely dependent on oil and, due to his "economic war on the burgeoisie owners", people are having trouble getting food. None of this is surprising; food shortages are part and parcel of socialist dictatorships.
Yes, you are right when you say that the Stalinist Warsaw pact countries were not communist, since they hadn't anything communist excepting the economy, but I refered to them this way since the Marxist idea of communism is pretty philosophic, and can`t be really applied. By the way, I red the communist manifesto if that's the text you are referring to.
Yo soy Comunista bolivariano. Es más soy Trosquista-Leninista. En venezuela ese es nuestro único camino ¡patria comunismo o muerte! Yo también gano mis reales bien ganados. Si uno hace su trabajo con amor y cariño y le dan ese regalo de real quien lo va a rechazar. Es mío y lo merezco-. ¡Viva el Che! ¡Viva el Comandante!
40% of Cubans were worse off before the revolution.Most or maybe all economic problems they had was the result of pressure from America