In adding the old school barbell row into my program for one of my back days, I found even with cerebral palsy it was a fantastic exercise for strengthening the entire back but the lower back particularly. This is very helpful since we usually have weak backs. Yes, there is a higher risk of injury but the exercize is very scalable.
"not optimal" is a phrase given by those with insufficient or incorrect training information using casual online observations as a substitute for real world, advanced experience.
This is one of my favourite back exercise...and i feel so happy that PETER is backing for it...thanks a lot for sharing so much details and tips...lots of love and respect from INDIA...huge fan of your work Peter👍👍👍
Hi peter I am 64 yrs doing ex heavy resistance band training I like ur this video on barbell raw In video in 5th variation u r doing raw on box Can u tell me for this variation U do at what angle? I want to do this 5th variation I have home gym all type of barbell PLEASE SUGGEST THE ANGLE U USED IN 5TH VARIATION WAITING FOR UR VALUABLE INFORMATION THANKS
Its been 8 months I been doing this as my Go to Compound Free Weight Back Exercise and man it everytimes gives the feeling of knowing that this is Returning the Hard Work" kind of vibe. I mean absolutely pays off. As its resulting yeilds are promosing so do the efforts it ask one. Initially one Manageble weights its easier to perform but as one progresses with weight the stress on Core is amazing it forces to be balanced while performing each rep at best with controlled range of motion. But believe once you perform the set the Burn will immediately tell you "its Worth every rep" .
I only do Weighted pull ups and Barbell rows right after and 3rd exercise switching on Deadlifts or single arm cable rows easy work nothing fancy here🎉
Best breakdown of the beast of an exercise ,one of the most misunderstood one too from all angles and variations which hasn't been done before not in this detail and simplicity !.So well done Petros!
I usually stand on a 45 to get even more stretch of the Upper back. And do it pendley row style, rowing the bar to the waist. If I want to hit more upper back I row to the upper abdominals/lower pec.. it’s not that complicated s🤷♂️
I switched from a conventional stance to a semi sumo stance while rowing and they immediately started working everything I wanted to work. The bar path is straighter and it's not limited by the lower back isometric. I feel like I'm actually getting the benefits of rows that people have been talking about since I started lifting
Surprisingly he didn't mention the underhand barbell row which is superior to all. With an underhand grip you work the mid and lower lats and thickness simultaneously and depending on the angle you can hit different parts of the lat. I don't dead lift because of back issues but people think I do because my lower back is so thick and I attribute it to bent over barbell row with underhand grip rowing towards my belly button to hit the lower back muscles.
Excellent video. As a newbie I normally do a bent over row. But after this I am thinking that I will mix in the 45 degree row as well. And the tip about tucking the elbows, quality as I normally flare my elbows a bit.
Excellent video and valuable information not found anywhere else. So good of you to be willing to share information garnered over years of actually working out and obviously being very successful at it. Thanks again - will be sure to incorporate your concepts into my next training session.
If u are 40+ u have to be careful doing barbell rows if u get injured it takes u so much longer to heal if u do at all. Back injuries sometimes never truly heal depending on what damage/injury u have. I do incline and lying flat supported dumbbell row and have gotten solid gains. So do what works for you but caution should be given with barbell rows and u need to make sure ur technique is on par to avoid injury.
smart comment. I feel the same in my upper 30s. The only reason I even consider it is because the heavier weights get on those chest supported rows, the more they hurt my sternum. so far it seems like the lying flat seal rows hurt LESS than the incline.
Pete , question : is working out 5 days a week at moderate intensity too much for a 50 year old? Looking to build lean mass and preserve my joints. Thanks.
Lol at not optimal. Bent over bb row sets my whole back on fire as I slowly stretch out my last rep. Thanks for explaining the differences between the positions
i USED to like the Barbell Row but may 15/24 i popped/bulged a disk in midback area and have been off work since. Its 95% healed and im back in the gym but havent did a barbell row since
what about dumbells row? not alternative one but 2 dumbells instead of barbell, i find it more comfortable and little disconfort for those with some lombar pain, same time you have more room to adjust movement
I've always thought the Yates row was made with a supine grip, or that's how I've always been doing it anyway. This and the ≈90° bent row are my two go-to barbell row variations (wich I also combine with other dumbell and machine variations). Never tried the dead-stop variation, but I'm curious, maybe one day I'll give it a try. Great content, as always.
I should have specified in the video. Dorian started out with an underhand grip which is the original Yates row. He later advocated for an overhand grip as the reverse grip puts the bicep in a much more compromising position. Overhand is the safer option and imo just as beneficial
I love the yates row but personally avoid the reverse grip because of the increased risk of bicep tears with it. Overhand is just as good but safer imo
@@PeterKhatcherian Thanks. I've used it since the mid 90's topping out at 60kg. Never had a problem. Wouldn't think of overloading on this and always use extremely strict form. Gotta protect that lower spine, for sure. There's also some transfer to the forearms, which I like. Cheers.
At 180, My 90 Degrees Rows Are Delicious, Pronated Wide Grip At 140 And Supinated Shoulder Width, Both For 12 Reps, Like I Said, Delicious, Because The Carry Over To Other Lifts Is Phenomenal
May i ask you a question? 😊if I have understood right Yate's row is focus more on lats, but is this position more risky for the lower back? Thank you in advance
The Yates Row is certainly less lats and more traps and rear delt. Shoulder extension is limited and when the arm goes behind the body it's rear delt, there is a huge shrugging and retraction component too, I feel my middle traps being torn apart from the tension. The more you bend over the more lats you get. 6/10 Lat Movement 8/10 Rear Delt Movement 10/10 Traps The fact that you use more weight upright stretches the living F out of your traps
If I wanna train my lower back with the 45 degree bb row, and I use the belt, will it let me work it effectively or not?? Since the belt helps me not to use my lower back as much!!
if you wanted to use your lower back more you have hyperextensions/RDLs (hip hinge with fixed spine) or jefferson curls (actual spine movement, to be approached gradually and with care)
@@Fedethedangerous95 I look for it because I've heard of it, but never look for the excersice it self!! Looks very easy probably what I need since I have a very weak lower back!! Thanks a lot for the info!! God bless you m8!!
Same, until I started digging onto higher rep sets of 15 minimum Then my lats started to burn. Going heavy and doing lower reps I always felt it on my lower back
Ive had a home gym for the last 5 years. I just ventured into a Retro Fitness yesterday for the first time since 2019 and was amazed at what i saw young men who are in their prime doing for back. All these ridiculous, single arm cable exercises. Slow and strict. I suppose its better than nothing but they are leaving so much gains on the table. They were lean kids but not even 200 lbs. Its funny too because the memes I see on social media compare back training in the 90’s to back training today - and it was Dorian Yates rowing in the 90’s vs Soy boys doing these EXACT exercises today. I couldn’t believe that these memes were playing out right in front of my very eyes! Who taught them this crap??
It's your core. You just need to be able to stay tight and braced the whole time. Practice with light weight and perfect form making sure to stay tight as you breath. You'll actually find a nice pocket where your quads touch your ribs and you can get some support during the lift. Chest supported rows are awesome as well and your core won't be a limiting factor but make sure you're doing other exercises that will strengthen your core and lower back such as squat, deadlift, standing overhead press, single arm farmers carries, etc.. Planks may be good if you need practice staying tight for longer periods.
I feel you brother. I would suggest you use a belt and instead of going heavy, lift moderate, but use rest-pause technique to increase your time under tension. And incorporate hyperextensions in your workout to strengthen your lower back overtime.
You could still do most of them using a bench and dumbbells. Little awkward to get in position, but with chest support, it takes the lower back out of it.
The undisputed barbell row king👑
True , even I followed him after watching short video of him doing barbell rows .. i became a fan at that instent 😅
I absolutely love bent over barbell rows, started doing them because of you. Makes you feel even more manly. Thank you for making videos on YT!
I just did my first set of barbell rows.....I'm not going to stop doing this exercise!!
In adding the old school barbell row into my program for one of my back days, I found even with cerebral palsy it was a fantastic exercise for strengthening the entire back but the lower back particularly. This is very helpful since we usually have weak backs.
Yes, there is a higher risk of injury but the exercize is very scalable.
I’ve noticed that your content is getting better man, keep it up hopefully more people will recognize you and receive your massage
"not optimal" is a phrase given by those with insufficient or incorrect training information using casual online observations as a substitute for real world, advanced experience.
I love pendlay rows followed by t-bar rows.. back gets so pumped, can feel it for a day or two.
It’s the pendlay rows for me.
@@SJRogers0786 those are King 👑
This is one of my favourite back exercise...and i feel so happy that PETER is backing for it...thanks a lot for sharing so much details and tips...lots of love and respect from INDIA...huge fan of your work Peter👍👍👍
Best guide on all barbell row variations. Great stuff!
Thanks for the information it's nice to no the difference between the movement's
Bent over barbell row is my favourite exercise and it has done so much for my back.. king exercise for a super back.!!
The deficit bent over row is my favorite. Or a traditional t bar row. Good stuff man
Hi peter I am 64 yrs doing ex heavy resistance band training
I like ur this video on barbell raw
In video in 5th variation u r doing raw on box
Can u tell me for this variation
U do at what angle?
I want to do this 5th variation
I have home gym all type of barbell
PLEASE SUGGEST THE ANGLE U USED IN 5TH VARIATION
WAITING FOR UR VALUABLE INFORMATION
THANKS
Its been 8 months I been doing this as my Go to Compound Free Weight Back Exercise and man it everytimes gives the feeling of knowing that this is Returning the Hard Work" kind of vibe. I mean absolutely pays off.
As its resulting yeilds are promosing so do the efforts it ask one.
Initially one Manageble weights its easier to perform but as one progresses with weight the stress on Core is amazing it forces to be balanced while performing each rep at best with controlled range of motion.
But believe once you perform the set the Burn will immediately tell you "its Worth every rep" .
I liked the way u explained the barbell row. Interesting to know that.
Pendlay Rows are crazy awesome, they hurt so good and I feel powerful doing the movement.
If people focused on rowing and pulling as much as pressing...it would solve 99% of their shoulder issues.
I only do Weighted pull ups and Barbell rows right after and 3rd exercise switching on Deadlifts or single arm cable rows easy work nothing fancy here🎉
Thanks to your videos about them I started incorporating them into my workouts and after a month I saw tremendous changes!
Best breakdown of the beast of an exercise ,one of the most misunderstood one too from all angles and variations which hasn't been done before not in this detail and simplicity !.So well done Petros!
What is the best row for posterior delts? The variation for the upper back? Awesome work, thank you!!
Excellent content and so accurate
I usually stand on a 45 to get even more stretch of the Upper back. And do it pendley row style, rowing the bar to the waist. If I want to hit more upper back I row to the upper abdominals/lower pec.. it’s not that complicated s🤷♂️
I switched from a conventional stance to a semi sumo stance while rowing and they immediately started working everything I wanted to work. The bar path is straighter and it's not limited by the lower back isometric. I feel like I'm actually getting the benefits of rows that people have been talking about since I started lifting
Phenomenal 🤌🏻 Best BB channel 👑
Surprisingly he didn't mention the underhand barbell row which is superior to all. With an underhand grip you work the mid and lower lats and thickness simultaneously and depending on the angle you can hit different parts of the lat. I don't dead lift because of back issues but people think I do because my lower back is so thick and I attribute it to bent over barbell row with underhand grip rowing towards my belly button to hit the lower back muscles.
My new favourite upper back exercise 🙃
Excellent video. As a newbie I normally do a bent over row. But after this I am thinking that I will mix in the 45 degree row as well. And the tip about tucking the elbows, quality as I normally flare my elbows a bit.
It's very useful information and just on tme! These day i am wondering which angle emphasizes more on lats. Thanks a LOT!
Excellent video and valuable information not found anywhere else. So good of you to be willing to share information garnered over years of actually working out and obviously being very successful at it. Thanks again - will be sure to incorporate your concepts into my next training session.
Awesome video Pete. Can we get a deep dive on zercher squats please. I know you’re a big fan of those ;)
Would love a video giving progression examples for double/single week training for barbell rows
Arnold style bent over rows are sweet too. On platform & slightly rounded back at bottom position
If u are 40+ u have to be careful doing barbell rows if u get injured it takes u so much longer to heal if u do at all. Back injuries sometimes never truly heal depending on what damage/injury u have. I do incline and lying flat supported dumbbell row and have gotten solid gains. So do what works for you but caution should be given with barbell rows and u need to make sure ur technique is on par to avoid injury.
smart comment. I feel the same in my upper 30s. The only reason I even consider it is because the heavier weights get on those chest supported rows, the more they hurt my sternum. so far it seems like the lying flat seal rows hurt LESS than the incline.
Looks like I'm going to start doing the Yates instead of bent over Thanks!
I just stared going them again and already my back has started growing like crazy
This exercise I try this
Feel amazing
Love from india
Pendlay rows with narrow grip hit my entire back except traps. Goated exercise
A year of dead stop rows fixed my caved in upper back. Still run it regularly with as little weight as possible.
Going to be implementing this work out tomorrow 🙌🏽💪🏽
Oooof liking this camera 🔥 and BBR are my favorite exercise
Pete , question : is working out 5 days a week at moderate intensity too much for a 50 year old? Looking to build lean mass and preserve my joints. Thanks.
Arnold wrote in his first book that "Guys who do not row do not win contests."
Lol at not optimal. Bent over bb row sets my whole back on fire as I slowly stretch out my last rep. Thanks for explaining the differences between the positions
i USED to like the Barbell Row but may 15/24 i popped/bulged a disk in midback area and have been off work since.
Its 95% healed and im back in the gym but havent did a barbell row since
what about dumbells row? not alternative one but 2 dumbells instead of barbell, i find it more comfortable and little disconfort for those with some lombar pain, same time you have more room to adjust movement
It's always the smaller guys that say this is not optimal or have bad STF ratio lol.
Or Dr Mike. And then his legions of simps follow his every word as gospel
@@dessertstorm7476 and they're all small for a reason LOL.
i like dr mike. he actually has a whole video on the technique for the barbell row and says it’s good for back muscles
Whats an STF?
science is for gay nerds
Pendlay is my fav. I love exploding out of that dead stop but the real struggle is controlling the bar all the way back down.
You’re not suppose to idiot
Excellent exercise!👍🏻
Cool video. I am going to try Yates rows tomorrow.
I've always thought the Yates row was made with a supine grip, or that's how I've always been doing it anyway. This and the ≈90° bent row are my two go-to barbell row variations (wich I also combine with other dumbell and machine variations). Never tried the dead-stop variation, but I'm curious, maybe one day I'll give it a try.
Great content, as always.
I should have specified in the video. Dorian started out with an underhand grip which is the original Yates row. He later advocated for an overhand grip as the reverse grip puts the bicep in a much more compromising position. Overhand is the safer option and imo just as beneficial
as i remember yates stop the underhand grip after his bicep tear
Excellent content right here
thank you for this video. I'm new to bent over rows and your explanations and examples are amazing.
Do you have an advice on
1) chest supported rows
2) Tennis elbow after doing rows?
Switch to trap bar rows for 2-3 months
Would you say this is a good substitute from doing cables lat pull downs? Or how would you compare barbell rows to late pull downs
Lookin sick bro!
I love Pendlay rows
My favorite is the reversed wide grip Yates row. Can you say anything about it, please?
I'd really appreciate your input. Cheers
I love the yates row but personally avoid the reverse grip because of the increased risk of bicep tears with it. Overhand is just as good but safer imo
@@PeterKhatcherian Thanks. I've used it since the mid 90's topping out at 60kg. Never had a problem. Wouldn't think of overloading on this and always use extremely strict form. Gotta protect that lower spine, for sure. There's also some transfer to the forearms, which I like. Cheers.
What are your thoughts on dumbbells ? Rowing with them ?
Great video. Thx
Thx Pete Good stuff
I back up this information. Back in the gym, doing back work. Remember to put your weights back.
Thanks!
I never feel my back so good and sore that with the barbell row, great video, you are a crack
Can you compare barbell rows with cable rows?
You make it looks so easy 😂😂
What rep scheme should be used for each variation?
i throw in dumbell rows instead of barbell,cause get more range of motion
At 180, My 90 Degrees Rows Are Delicious, Pronated Wide Grip At 140 And Supinated Shoulder Width, Both For 12 Reps, Like I Said, Delicious, Because The Carry Over To Other Lifts Is Phenomenal
Hllo Peter please do a full day eating for beginner
I prefer 90° bb row and defecit bb row
backguy should watch this video
Anyone who says barbell rows don’t blow your back size up has never actually done them.
I train by myself. I always think my back is too high. it just feels awkward. Also, I have scoliosis.
May i ask you a question? 😊if I have understood right Yate's row is focus more on lats, but is this position more risky for the lower back? Thank you in advance
Holy shit, that damn back, GAWDAMMMMM
2 herniated discs in my back...best I can do is seated cable rows with a pull up bar....not the same, but again, best I can do. Sucks.
That’s better than nothing King
I love most rows but dont understand the love of the yates row since it doesnt elicit a good stretch which is key to growing. Just my opinion
Was the Yates row not done with an underhand grip?
The Yates Row is certainly less lats and more traps and rear delt.
Shoulder extension is limited and when the arm goes behind the body it's rear delt, there is a huge shrugging and retraction component too, I feel my middle traps being torn apart from the tension.
The more you bend over the more lats you get.
6/10 Lat Movement
8/10 Rear Delt Movement
10/10 Traps
The fact that you use more weight upright stretches the living F out of your traps
how far do you bend over? does the bar get to your knees? how do you breathe while staying braced the entire time?
Love the rows, but i always hit hamstrings before, feel more stable
Some can help me? I don t understand english watching vudeo, what version he say is better? Help
Good video
Lmao the subtle shade at Jeff did not go unnoticed 😏
"Imbalance in your lower back"... How would you fix that, if not to just try and do more 45 degree rows?
I usually do a supinated grip so i can lift heavier, is this okay?
Dorian did reverse grip rowing
I think it’s because most people have anterior pelvic tilt and can’t keep their spine neutral during lifts.
So I need to do all 5 how many set and reps? Should I do 8 reps of 4 sets of all 5 ?
great exercise but i dont like doing them, and i dont need them to build big latts
If I wanna train my lower back with the 45 degree bb row, and I use the belt, will it let me work it effectively or not?? Since the belt helps me not to use my lower back as much!!
the belt simply helps you brace with your core, so that you use your lower back correctly, so you're alright
if you wanted to use your lower back more you have hyperextensions/RDLs (hip hinge with fixed spine) or jefferson curls (actual spine movement, to be approached gradually and with care)
@@Fedethedangerous95 I look for it because I've heard of it, but never look for the excersice it self!! Looks very easy probably what I need since I have a very weak lower back!! Thanks a lot for the info!! God bless you m8!!
@@Michaelcald3ron god bless you too :)
The best tip for barbell rows was to keep the bar over the midfoot. Helped eliminate the low back stress and activate my lats .
Huh, it should more your forefoot. Midfoot is for deadlift
how far do you bend over?
❤for🇮🇳 the pro😊💪
never feel it in lats...too tough on lower back for me..
Same, until I started digging onto higher rep sets of 15 minimum
Then my lats started to burn. Going heavy and doing lower reps I always felt it on my lower back
Ive had a home gym for the last 5 years.
I just ventured into a Retro Fitness yesterday for the first time since 2019 and was amazed at what i saw young men who are in their prime doing for back.
All these ridiculous, single arm cable exercises. Slow and strict. I suppose its better than nothing but they are leaving so much gains on the table. They were lean kids but not even 200 lbs.
Its funny too because the memes I see on social media compare back training in the 90’s to back training today - and it was Dorian Yates rowing in the 90’s vs Soy boys doing these EXACT exercises today. I couldn’t believe that these memes were playing out right in front of my very eyes!
Who taught them this crap??
Peter has 2 watches while rowing I'm going to try that while rowing to see if I can Barbell row more weights.
Attaboy!
Trap bar row ❤️
I love these but my lower back can't handle these!!!
It's your core. You just need to be able to stay tight and braced the whole time. Practice with light weight and perfect form making sure to stay tight as you breath. You'll actually find a nice pocket where your quads touch your ribs and you can get some support during the lift. Chest supported rows are awesome as well and your core won't be a limiting factor but make sure you're doing other exercises that will strengthen your core and lower back such as squat, deadlift, standing overhead press, single arm farmers carries, etc.. Planks may be good if you need practice staying tight for longer periods.
I feel you brother. I would suggest you use a belt and instead of going heavy, lift moderate, but use rest-pause technique to increase your time under tension. And incorporate hyperextensions in your workout to strengthen your lower back overtime.
You could still do most of them using a bench and dumbbells. Little awkward to get in position, but with chest support, it takes the lower back out of it.
Use lightweight