Eric has talked about because was not only there but he remembers how scared he was about having to jump in and pull these two apart because he's catch the worst of this. Thankfully according to Eric nothing happened. Which mindset wise I could believe because each is smart enough to let the other throw the first punch and instantly make them look in the wrong.
I wonder how Nash would have fared had he had to do what Piper had to do to get where he ultimately did. Piper was as tough as they come. And as intelligent as anyone who ever stepped into the ring.
@@justint8635. Loved how he and Scott Hall would bash Bret Hart for a selfish mark for himself when they were best buddies with HHH and Shawn Michaels.
@justint8635 LOL if your going to bury a man at least get your facts straight. He came to Rick Steiners defense in that Trans bashing debacle that Rick stupidly went through. That doesn't exactly fit your narrative. Nash never claimed to be the most moral. Just recently he was talking about Furries and stating "I don't let those Freaks in my line". You would think someone who made their living in the carny business of shieks, freaks and geeks that he would have no problem with anyone of any subculture. Anyway Nash is far from the bastion of morality like you claimed.
Dibiase isn’t wrong here about Waltman in 1997. Sean Waltman at the time was viewed as a guy who could hold his end of the bargain in a match and in hindsight was somewhat of an unheralded innovator when it came to light heavyweights in wrestling with some of the crazy risks he’d take working in Global and later USWA. But during his first run in WWE he wasn’t necessarily driving ticket sales and was part of that second tier of wrestlers at that time which included Owen Hart, Goldust and Triple H all of whom were working underneath the big five of the “New Generation”: Hart, HBK, Hall, Nash and Taker. Waltman was actually released by WWF in 1996 with the full knowledge that he was going to waltz into WCW. He wasn’t viewed as a bankable commodity at that time. Waltman’s ascent really began with the year and a half he was in WCW where he got the rub from being part of the n.W.o. and was able to parlay that into a big return to WWE the following year where he did become a star.
The argument hes a better worker for the match, ok, so put any other good worker in it, it's nothing but wanting their friend in it, like the whole career of the kliq. Even the hof they did for wwe, why was waltman in it that one, Its hogan-hall-nash when think Nwo. They just wanted their buddy in it. Im a fan of Waltman but he didnt belong in an nwo hall of fame before Macho Man, Bischoff, and others who were more important to nwo then syxx if you're gonna throw others in with the main three.
123 Kid was well established at that point. Kid was younger and faster and could wrestle different styles from technical to brawling or flying. Nash and Hall had been Huge stars in WWE before that.
Ted DiBiase had a big problem with The Kliq when he was in the WWF. When Hall & Nash arrived in WCW, DiBiase knew he would have to put up with their crap again.
I would agree; Waltman was at that time the best worker of those six. The worst: Kevin "Trash" Nash. Kevin Greene had maybe a dozen matches total and HE was a better worker than Big Lazy.
Kevin Nash was Lazy bro he was just there for the money he always rode the coattails of who ever had an establishment like Shawn hogan and even Scott hall
Sixx wasn’t big then, but Kevin Greene was? I get he was an “attraction” for mainstream non-wrestling fans, but to put down Waltman while tagging with Greene is ridiculous.
Nash is ful of it. He called the Rock gay on that "what a dick" video by that guy he does a podcast with. He said he never did but the video is still up. He said Rock & Austin where jealous of how over they where. Who I believe Piper is I seen videos if him admiring he was in the wrong, never seen one of Nash doing it. Plus this a copy paste story from Samoa Joe getting slapped by him and him backing down. He always has his pals as witnesses to every lie he ever tells.
That wasnt the reason why Nash slapped Piper backstage. Piper & Flair werent supposed to attack Nash & Hall before they got to the ring, it was all agreed on. Piper did the opposite, attacking them outside the ring, infuriating Nash. When he went to confront Roddy, he leg dived him(or attempted to) & Big Kev open-hand slapped him ONE TIME, & that was the end of it. This is per Kevin Nash from several sources, i.e. kayfabe commmentaries among others. I realize that Roddy has a different version and i wasnt there. Im a fan of both guys, but i have heard corroborated accounts from others on Nash's side so i tend to believe his account. R.I.P. RODDy Piper❤
If I'm promised to share a stage with The Rolling Stones, I'm not settling for Oasis. Piper and Flair were right, and if Piper was done with the shit-show 6 minutes early I'd fully understand.
@gregbailey8253 Now look up when DiBiase made his wrestling debut and then look up Hall and Nash's debuts. I'm not going to do it for you because this is a teachable moment for you.
@@justint8635 Well, so was I. And yeah he was a smaller guy(but not Marko Stunt small) but the guy for his time, was a cruiserweight star, and let's be real,smaller workers the guy is a icon. you have to be pretty wrestling famous to have a form of HEAT named after you
piper and flair werent drawing dick at the time! The fans come to see the nwo,and yeah you could argue that sean wasnt a replacement for hogan,i think he would have been the first one to stand up and say that himeself then and now,but the guy could have a match with a manaquin if he had to ,he may not have been a mega star but he could work and thats what the match needed,a good bumping worker like syxx
Waltman was always a curtain jerker at best, the only reason he got a job in dubya see dubya was because he was buddie with Hall and Nash and the only reason he got back in the WWF in '98 because he was buddies with Hickenbottom and Levesque because he was a member of the kliq.
Ted is lost here, Sixx was well known & Nash & Hall were the Outsiders, the nwo. The were hot back then & they, Hollywood Hogan & Sting were the only reason people watched. Flair & Piper weren’t draws at that time.
Pac was "well known" for being the friend of the stars. I was watching then. There's a reason why dude was mid card status at Titan. He was lacking in size and wasn't great in promos. I was and am a fan of his but we need to be realistic here.
I was a HUGE Kevin Nash fan back in the day, although his politics kinda turned me off once he became more active on social media. I've actually met him though and he's a pretty decent guy who's been through a LOT. Having said all that, the idea of Piper double legging him and throwing him out of the room is completely asinine. It literally would never happen. Kevin is an absolute monster who also had a boxing background, and a temper like a son of a bitch. He NEVER would have backed down from Piper. In Piper's day I'm sure he was tough, and Nash isn't Haku or Barbarian, but in a real fight Nash would go through him like it was nobody's business.
Nash can say whatever he wants, but Piper understood the fans FAR better than he ever did.
Depending on the year
I don't think we will ever know what the truth is to that matter, Piper is now passed on and Nash will stretch the truth as far as he could
I'm sure Piper laid the smack down on 7 foot tall 330 pound former bouncer Kevin Nash.
Eric has talked about because was not only there but he remembers how scared he was about having to jump in and pull these two apart because he's catch the worst of this. Thankfully according to Eric nothing happened. Which mindset wise I could believe because each is smart enough to let the other throw the first punch and instantly make them look in the wrong.
Love when Ted says, "IT'S KINDA LIKE", which he does every episode.
"You know..."
Every time Nash got into it back stage with another wrestler he always had 2 or 3 guys with him. One on one he was a coward.
Plus he’s the lowest drawing champion of all time too bro
Kevin Nash went after both Nasty Boys by himself (armed with a bat).
@@MortonT1958 with a bat. Saggs was injured. Nash is 6'10. Nash had stroke. Gimme a break. 😂
Nash had and still does have a bully mindset!
At least Ted is honest enough to say, "I don't know, I wasn't there". Most think they have the definitive story about everything.
I can see Piper and Flair's reasoning when Hogan cancelled due to other commitments. Sixx is no replacement for Hogan.
I wonder how Nash would have fared had he had to do what Piper had to do to get where he ultimately did. Piper was as tough as they come. And as intelligent as anyone who ever stepped into the ring.
Nash is the dude from high school that STILL needs to look cool every chance he gets. 🙄
And like most modern liberals, has to be the most moral in the room.
@@justint8635. Loved how he and Scott Hall would bash Bret Hart for a selfish mark for himself when they were best buddies with HHH and Shawn Michaels.
@justint8635 LOL if your going to bury a man at least get your facts straight. He came to Rick Steiners defense in that Trans bashing debacle that Rick stupidly went through. That doesn't exactly fit your narrative. Nash never claimed to be the most moral. Just recently he was talking about Furries and stating "I don't let those Freaks in my line". You would think someone who made their living in the carny business of shieks, freaks and geeks that he would have no problem with anyone of any subculture. Anyway Nash is far from the bastion of morality like you claimed.
@@travismcdonald6576 *Paul Levesque, *Michael Hickenbottom.
Don't be a mark, use their real names.
Na he’s just cool
Dibiase isn’t wrong here about Waltman in 1997. Sean Waltman at the time was viewed as a guy who could hold his end of the bargain in a match and in hindsight was somewhat of an unheralded innovator when it came to light heavyweights in wrestling with some of the crazy risks he’d take working in Global and later USWA.
But during his first run in WWE he wasn’t necessarily driving ticket sales and was part of that second tier of wrestlers at that time which included Owen Hart, Goldust and Triple H all of whom were working underneath the big five of the “New Generation”: Hart, HBK, Hall, Nash and Taker. Waltman was actually released by WWF in 1996 with the full knowledge that he was going to waltz into WCW. He wasn’t viewed as a bankable commodity at that time. Waltman’s ascent really began with the year and a half he was in WCW where he got the rub from being part of the n.W.o. and was able to parlay that into a big return to WWE the following year where he did become a star.
The Big Six of the New Generation, Luger was on that list too
you have no way of knowing that
Nash embellished a lot. And, btw, you were never at the Montreal screw job, Kevin!!!
The argument hes a better worker for the match, ok, so put any other good worker in it, it's nothing but wanting their friend in it, like the whole career of the kliq. Even the hof they did for wwe, why was waltman in it that one, Its hogan-hall-nash when think Nwo. They just wanted their buddy in it. Im a fan of Waltman but he didnt belong in an nwo hall of fame before Macho Man, Bischoff, and others who were more important to nwo then syxx if you're gonna throw others in with the main three.
123 Kid was well established at that point. Kid was younger and faster and could wrestle different styles from technical to brawling or flying. Nash and Hall had been Huge stars in WWE before that.
Nash, the so called tough guy, didnt do a think to new jack, who put a head lock on him surprisingly 😂
Ted DiBiase had a big problem with The Kliq when he was in the WWF. When Hall & Nash arrived in WCW, DiBiase knew he would have to put up with their crap again.
I have never heard that. In fact, the only person I’ve heard Ted speak of critically was Ultimate Warrior.
Ted was brought into wcw in 1996 as a member of nwo. He wasn't already in wcw.
Evil Doink Beat 123 Kid. Syxx is not a Main Draw
According to Nash, they said and agreed not to start the match “hot”, but then Piper went ahead and started the match hot. 🤷♂️
Piper was never a tough guy ala Dick Slater or Black Jack Mulligan, those guys would've broke Nash in half lol
Anyone with some amateur wrestling ability would have beaten Nash
Thats why Nash hated Watts. Cause his shit didnt fly when he was around and in power.
Ever hear nash's story about how he intentionally changed his match with yokozuna to show bill watts that he was low man on the totem pole
@@dante040 Typical nash dickhead move.
@@dante040 yep. Shows how unprofessional and petty he can be.
I would agree; Waltman was at that time the best worker of those six. The worst: Kevin "Trash" Nash. Kevin Greene had maybe a dozen matches total and HE was a better worker than Big Lazy.
Kevin Nash was Lazy bro he was just there for the money he always rode the coattails of who ever had an establishment like Shawn hogan and even Scott hall
Rick rude confronted kevin nash and wanted to fight him back in 98. Nash backed down and didn't wanna fight and calmed the situation. Nash is a bully
He was smart not to throw hands with Rude. Wouldn't have ended well for Big Kev.
Sixx wasn’t big then, but Kevin Greene was? I get he was an “attraction” for mainstream non-wrestling fans, but to put down Waltman while tagging with Greene is ridiculous.
Nash is ful of it. He called the Rock gay on that "what a dick" video by that guy he does a podcast with.
He said he never did but the video is still up. He said Rock & Austin where jealous of how over they where.
Who I believe Piper is I seen videos if him admiring he was in the wrong, never seen one of Nash doing it.
Plus this a copy paste story from Samoa Joe getting slapped by him and him backing down.
He always has his pals as witnesses to every lie he ever tells.
He probably is
Piper was only 5 yrs older than Nash, 4 years on Hall, btw does Ted EVER give an opinion?
That wasnt the reason why Nash slapped Piper backstage. Piper & Flair werent supposed to attack Nash & Hall before they got to the ring, it was all agreed on. Piper did the opposite, attacking them outside the ring, infuriating Nash. When he went to confront Roddy, he leg dived him(or attempted to) & Big Kev open-hand slapped him ONE TIME, & that was the end of it. This is per Kevin Nash from several sources, i.e. kayfabe commmentaries among others. I realize that Roddy has a different version and i wasnt there.
Im a fan of both guys, but i have heard corroborated accounts from others on Nash's side so i tend to believe his account. R.I.P. RODDy Piper❤
Neither did anything, both Eric Bischoff and Ric Flair stated they just argued
I bet he tore his quads in that confrontation 🤷🏾♂️
I used to think Nash was cool until I started watching his podcast and realized he's nothing more than a dirt bag.
If I'm promised to share a stage with The Rolling Stones, I'm not settling for Oasis. Piper and Flair were right, and if Piper was done with the shit-show 6 minutes early I'd fully understand.
The 123 Kid
Teds on point here.
Nash was big thats all
123 Kid nowhere near level of these guys. Flair and Piper spot on
NOWHERE.
@@justint8635 True, but who's the football player they wanted to bring in?
Absolutely! Shouldn't even be a conversation.
That's why Dwayne once called him the 123 Jabroni, bet that was adlibbed.
His mic skills were terrible but as a worker he could go
nash is a fake wrestler and that means liar as well
It’s all a work, buddy.
ted was only couple years older than hall and nash. he called them young up and comers 🤣
Ted has about 10 years of life and at least 10 years in the business over Hall & Nash at the time.
@ithinkaboutthings9052 Say it again so this Kliq bottom licker can hear it.
@gregbailey8253 But he had spent more years in the business despite being close in age
@gregbailey8253 Now look up when DiBiase made his wrestling debut and then look up Hall and Nash's debuts. I'm not going to do it for you because this is a teachable moment for you.
@@johnnybeefum Greg’s comment struck me as something akin to when Meltzer snarks about how reading is your friend.
Opinions are like assholes....everybody has one
And most of em stink
Ted is Off here.about Waltman
Nope. He's on point. I was watching then. He was the smaller friend of Hall and Nash. Come on.
@@justint8635 Well, so was I. And yeah he was a smaller guy(but not Marko Stunt small) but the guy for his time, was a cruiserweight star, and let's be real,smaller workers the guy is a icon. you have to be pretty wrestling famous to have a form of HEAT named after you
@@justint8635Kid could work with anyone, simple fact
@@curt8652 ... No one's disputing that. Unfortunately, people said the same thing about Brad Armstrong but let's be real.
Nash is the definition of cool 8 years old to 88 years old. Mark
Nash always sounds like he just learned how to speak that day. Also I think a doctor needs to investigate as he seems to be continuously constipated.
piper and flair werent drawing dick at the time! The fans come to see the nwo,and yeah you could argue that sean wasnt a replacement for hogan,i think he would have been the first one to stand up and say that himeself then and now,but the guy could have a match with a manaquin if he had to ,he may not have been a mega star but he could work and thats what the match needed,a good bumping worker like syxx
Thought outsiders were there first
they were
Sean Waltman never had a bad match.
His match with Bret Hart on Raw for 60 minutes was the highlight of his career.
@@Mekrabb Bret carried him and made him look good.
He was a big name in WWF, before he went to WCW.
Waltman was always a curtain jerker at best, the only reason he got a job in dubya see dubya was because he was buddie with Hall and Nash and the only reason he got back in the WWF in '98 because he was buddies with Hickenbottom and Levesque because he was a member of the kliq.
LOL.
Ted is lost here, Sixx was well known & Nash & Hall were the Outsiders, the nwo. The were hot back then & they, Hollywood Hogan & Sting were the only reason people watched. Flair & Piper weren’t draws at that time.
Pac was "well known" for being the friend of the stars. I was watching then. There's a reason why dude was mid card status at Titan. He was lacking in size and wasn't great in promos. I was and am a fan of his but we need to be realistic here.
Yea syxx was what he was. Not a draw.
@@justint8635 Exactly, like his buddy Levesque, aka Cripple H.
The BS is deep on some of these comments.
Lol lol he was a huge name.
I was a HUGE Kevin Nash fan back in the day, although his politics kinda turned me off once he became more active on social media. I've actually met him though and he's a pretty decent guy who's been through a LOT. Having said all that, the idea of Piper double legging him and throwing him out of the room is completely asinine. It literally would never happen. Kevin is an absolute monster who also had a boxing background, and a temper like a son of a bitch. He NEVER would have backed down from Piper. In Piper's day I'm sure he was tough, and Nash isn't Haku or Barbarian, but in a real fight Nash would go through him like it was nobody's business.
I know Piper had a boxing background but never knew Nash did.