The PROBLEM with Fifty Fifty (everything you should know)
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- Опубликовано: 28 май 2024
- This video includes everything you need to know about the MESSY fifty fifty situation. For such a group that had lots of potential, it's sad to see how things are unfolding for them.
#fiftyfifty #cupid #cupidsong #cupidtrend #kpopnews
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Intro 0:00-00:50
Background Info 00:51-03:00
The Issue 03:01-12:30
Conclusion 12:31 
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I made this video on July 6th so that explains if any detail after that is not included!
Edit: IM SORRY ABOUT THE NOISY MUSIC AND ITS TOO LOUD AND ANNOYING 😭
I like ur channel, u should make more videos
Can u make an instagram channel
Please, thank u
this all feels surreal to me. it all happened so quickly, their career so far is such a rollercoaster. really goes to show how life can be so unpredictable.
Unpredictable? no... more like GREED and BETRAYAL in the highest order. There isn't any single artiste nor entertainment companies that has come out in support for the girls nor the Givers PD. That just shows how bad the Kpop entertainment is looking at them now. This video here doesn't point out much evidential fact that has been uncovered by Korean media including the girls' parents registering 60 trademark under Korean name fifty fifty that includes merchadise rights, cosmetics etc etc was FILED ON THE SAME DAY THE GIRLS SUED ATTRATK. Coincidence? Anyone who's filed trademark knows what a troublesome paperwok it is for even submitting a single trademark not mentioning 60?! all in a single day which can only lead to everyone assuming it was a well thought out plan in the making. The Song 'Cupid' was even registered under the Giver's PD name and one of the girls without giving any credit/% share to the original song writers whom are university students. Which means all revenues from the Song cupid will only go towards Givers, PD and one of the girls while original song writers and Attrakt will not even receive a SINGLE CENT. Something which is Unprecedented and unforgivable in the Korean music industry. Not to mention the Song RIGHTS was PAID FOR BY ATTRAKT.
it almost no one fault but theirs.
if you want to backstab someone, don't do it in front of others.
Details missing in thus video.
1. A voice call recording between Attrakt and Siahn was revealed in which Siahn lied that the Cupid’s copyright will belong to Attrakt. But instead he stole it. Don’t miss the fact that Siahn is a just contractor. He has no right to do so.
2. Fifty Fifty’s parents registered fifty fifty Trademarks behind Attrakt’s back. When this was revealed, the Korean public opinion completely turned away from the group.
3. The entire k-pop industry is on Attrakt’s side because if they lose this battle, there will be no more BTS, no small companies would venture out and no more investors.
Thank you for clearing this up!
Could you maybe refer to where you found out about the phone call?
I've heard about it and yet, unlike other details about this emerging case, I have an extra hard time finding a credible source covering this one.
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
@@alexandercohen1149 The phone call clip was revealed by Dispatch. The clip is available on their youtube channel. Funnily a lot of k-netz are now making jokes that Attrakt CEO is indirectly promoting Samsung Galaxy since he used that phone and was able to record all phone conversations. His ass is basically saved thanks to all the phone recordings that he have. I guess a lot of international fans are on the fence or still supporting The Givers because they didn't hear the recording where The Givers CEO straight up lied to Attrakt CEO by reassuring him that the copyright of Cupid will be transferred to Attrakt after 3 months. He also can be heard confirming Attrakt CEO that he kept the receipt of the money given by Attrakt to purchase Cupid. That's why k-netz are rallying behind Attrakt CEO. Once Fifty Fifty members made their stance clear that they are on Givers side, the public straight away turn their back on them because there are clear evidence that The Givers are screwing Attrakt over.
@@hahi0982 thanks I'll check it out👍
The Barbie Thing, the Kcon thing, The Popular Variety show and the brand deal would truly help so much with their career
And help them stay as far away as possible from being a one hit wonder
But with the current situation, I don’t have a lot of hope that the group would even survive, not even thinking about flopping
medias and industry experts are assuming the girls intentionally missed out on all these fixtures because that would lessen the total 'revenue' on the report of the group in the court of which they would need reimburse to Attrakt in case they wanted to cancel their contract in the court
I almost wish Cupid would’ve not blown up the way it did, things may have gone smoother for them without all these record labels wanting a piece of the success and imploding the whole rise of the group.
Can't wait for their comeback!
it takes two hands to clap..can't blame the labels who want a share of pie, rather blame the girls and their parents as well for being blinded by greed
@@DUNGSTA they probably won't. even if there is a future fifty fifty, it will be with new members and not them.
But at least we know how they actually r
We now know the greed these ppl have
@@kookie175but why is it greedy when their parents are just trying to get them their money. Money the company and ceo has stolen or kept from them
For me, cupid is the only song raising rn and they really need another addicting song to be released before they step outta trend (they have started stepping out already)
Well, pop music history is full of what are called "one hit wonders". It's practically recognized as a genre in its own right. A group or artist makes one song that is super huge and competes with and often beats all of the top groups/artists on the charts. But it turns out to be the only hit that group or artist really ever has and the one-hit-wonder song is remembered long after the performer is forgotten. Since FF's big hit song was basically not even written for them and just found by luck and purchased by their company, it's possible that they simply don't know what to do to take the next steps and keep their momentum going... and don't have any similarly great songs available. This may explain why there's been a lot of conflict between the executives and the group.
Remind me of Momoland case, had one great single (well maybe 2) and after that they forgotten
barbie dreams in a day almost 1 million..i believe they are not 1 hit wonder..
Their other songs are doing pretty well on spotify in their own right idk this is pretty wild they are so popular and are deep into the charts internationally that it will be very hard for them to disappear.
Barbie dreams is trending
there's this saying in my culture; if one got success too fast, they will fall from their pedestal faster than their rise to success if they arent careful. I guess this is what happened to these girls
Never thought id feel bad for a company and its CEO. Strange times
This group destroyed themselves. Betrayal and greed. No more chance for this 4 betrayers.
They are doomed.
Exactly
I mean you guys have to understand ''cupid'' is a one-time hit song. If you want to be successful in this industry, you have to stay relevant. You have to have skills, visual and good image. Fifty-fifty destroyed their image already, their skills are yet to be tested, visuals are not on par with competitors. They just became viral because of a cutesy song produced by their company and that's it....
I heard Attrakt CEO sold his car and house to debut fifty-fifty, he already sacrificed a lot to debut these girls. it's true Attrakt CEO did a shady thing not showing how much money they earned but suing him instantly without any discussion tells how much greedy they became all on a sudden.
Another detail: Interpark invested about $7 million in Attrakt. The members were demanding CEO to show exactly how this money was spent on them. Interpark later came out saying the money was for the CEO and the company and that its not just for fifty fifty lol
Tbh, if ppl know how business works, you don't need to explain this...
But international fans, most of them are a failure human who doesnt know how business works...
Thanks for the explanation, i hope idiotic ppl cn understand...
With such a massive hit, it's very hard to get out of the shadow of that one hit. Cupid was cute song, but let's be honest, there's nothing about Fifty Fifty that makes them stand out from the numerous girl groups out right now.
Agreed. I think they will be a one-hit wonder
FIFTY % back... FIFTY % Stabbers. Shame they let that scammer get into their heads to go against the good CEO. Now they are doomed.
The FIFTY FIFTY thing is so confusing- I feel that its strange that the members would "backstab" the CEO after all he did. Just culturally as koreans, people are more grateful and give a lot of respect for their elders/superiors/in this case CEO, especially after like selling his car? There is definitely more going on and I think most of it is just greed from one party or another, trying to take the success of FIFTY FIFTY, but in the end, this is ruining them and they won't be able to live up CUPID again. I really don't want this since they are all so talented, but I think that they will become known as a one-hit wonder and upcoming comebacks if they do manage to pull from the situation will be far less successful. It honestly is so sad that the success they are having is only short-termed and came to a sudden halt. Like their popularity doesn't even get to die down, it just stopped abruptly.
As bad as this sounds this whole situation is going to make for some interesting solo music should they continue after every piece of this is dissected.
That may be the actual reason for the conflict. They had one great song, purchased for them but not written for them. They don't have anything of similarly good quality to use as a follow-up song. The group members would be really unhappy because they would feel like it's the CEO's responsibility to get them great songs and keep the momentum going. The CEO would be really unhappy and under a lot of stress because he can't find/buy any new songs that will keep the hits coming. Everyone's unhappy, so you get a big mess.
They're young and new to the industry. I think someone deceive them to do this. Remember that Shian guy is an old player in music industry. He knows the tricks. When I see the dispatch report on how he was able to hold 99.5% of the Cupid copyright, I know something isn't right with that dude.
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
@@TEAM__POSEID0Ntheir other songs are better TBH
As I said from the start: Greed. Parents. Greed. Producer.
For my opinion, being young doesn't give excuse for what they have done, they have responsibility for their acts, being new or young to this industry is not a reason, cus there r so many kpop group every year, but they don't 'betrayed' their company in this short time, at least in Asia, 100%in South Korea, they wouldn't (as 5050's members for sure)
Fifty fiftys parent spent around $12000 for signing up for literally dozens of trademarks behind the ceos back while getting ready for the lawsuit
The curse of the crossover hit out of nowhere. Doctored streaming numbers and millions of dollars of sketchy money with both parties accusing the other of lying. Music industry is playing this game right in our faces and we all keep feeding into it. I lose more faith in public discernment each day.
For people who thinks CEO is suspicious for making this too public and handling it well. If this was just 50/50 members and the CEOs conflict we don't know how he would have handled it, he might have kept it low and quiet. When the first news came out the CEO was 100% sure that it was the greedy adults that are controlling the members such as siahn and the parents. To me this isn't 50/50 vs the CEO. Its Siahn and the parents against the CEO. If you guys seen the first news he said nothing about the members only Siahn. Even until now from all his interviews, it's is about what he did for them and how precious they were to him. Recently it is about what Siahn and the Parents were doing behind him. EVEN IN THIS SITUATION he has never said anything bad about these back stabbing members. He is not wanting to hurt 50/50s brand image or them. If he has a goal from this lawsuit it would be to let the members know that they are being used and maybe change their minds and work with him at the end. It does seem like its impossible to see them back together but I do see that he is trying to separate the real villains and the members. But as someone who seen the whole news I really think 50/50 should take full responsibility and step out of this industry. My wish as a support of the CEO is to make a 2nd generation with the same name 50/50 and make it happen again because atleast in Korea everyone would support them.
The court is handling the case, i dont know why people can’t wait the result and say someone is villains now. The netizens think of themself like they are judges or lawyers, and sentence the case with some interviews on one side only or some internet news.
@@buzzaldrin2556 Usually, it is just netizens that do that. But in this particular controversy, the whole Korean industry is boycotting Fifty right now. Nobody in the industry is going to help out Fifty. All the people in the industry knows what is going on with this controversy. So even if Fifty continues their activities in the future, everything has to be outsourced outside of Korea.
I agree with your point, the good CEO wants this situation solved as smooth as possible and maybe even keep working with them. Otherwise, it would be a total waste of his resources if he simply pull the plug on the whole group. However, the girls sue him, so we don't know how long this will take.
@@villagranvicent The CEO still wants to talk to the girls in order to straight out misunderstandings. He said that he can't protect the girls once the court comes up with a decision on August 5th. The girls are still staying silent.
Who knows what can happen in the future? But it's entirely possible that they would have been a "one-hit wonder" group no matter what happened. Their one super hit was a song that was a really good song that was not written for them. Kpop and pop music in general has many cases where the artist or group kind of gets lucky with one song that catches on for one reason or another, but then they fizzle out because they never really come up with any new songs that can match the success and hype of their first big hit. There's no guarantee that this wouldn't have been the case with Fifty Fifty. It even kind of reminds me of the Crayon Pop group. They had one song that was a really big hit and were able to get a few more lesser hits due to the popularity of their biggest hit and sell a lot of albums for about 2 years, but ultimately had no staying power. Brave Girls too got a lot of attention from a national news story about how the military loved their song "Rolling" but that wasn't enough to really keep them going for more than a year.
Wait it wasn't written for them?
@@cresdc8481 As mentioned in the video, it was a song that some Swedish music school students had already written. Siahn just bought the song from the students for $9,000. So I guess he gets credit for recognizing the song's potential.
Actually i feel sorry for the CEO. He clearly does not have any management skills and will end up in jail. However, the girls being this talented have many opportunities in the future.
@@varunkandhari4819 Siahn's methods sound like the methods of a typical business hustler. I guess some of the details will keep coming out. But so far, if it's true that he used Attrakt's money to buy the copyright to Cupid, but then took ownership for himself, I can see why the Attrakt guys would be extremely unhappy. In that kind of business hustle, someone like Siahn could expect to get "finders fees" (a kind of reward or percentage of profits for finding a successful song). They're not supposed to try to take the whole thing.
@@TEAM__POSEID0N Yikes. Now he's running away with that pride leaving that poor CEO behind
Most of the Korean public opinion now supports Attract CEO Jeon Hong-joon.
The reason is that Givers is the company that Attract trusted and made Fifty Fifty in charge of. But Givers and Fifty Fifty's parents got greedy and violated the contractual trust relationship with Attract.
Of course, adults have a lot of responsibility, but the prevailing public opinion in Korea is that the FiftyFifty members cannot escape their responsibility because they also sympathize with the adults' greed.
Let me clear up why Fifty Fifty is being criticized by Koreans.
1. They've just debuted, and they've already asked for a settlement. Three million dollars. CEO Jeon Hong-joon planned to pay off the debt incurred in training Fifty Fifty first with profits, and then settle it accurately, but suddenly they sued CEO Jeon Hong-joon.
2. CEO Jeon Hong-joon provided welfare and education at the level of a large agency to raise the children even by selling his belongings and family belongings. But I betrayed CEO Jeon Hong-joon's efforts.
3. CEO Ahn Sung-il has long been notorious for lying a lot and stealing artists from other agencies. And it's becoming more controversial because of this incident.
4. CEO Ahn Sung-il continues to commit all kinds of misdeeds to somehow ruin CEO Jeon Hong-joon by mobilizing the parents of the Fifty Fifty members. Because of this, other celebrities, producers, and agencies are all angry.
5. Fifty Fifty's parents independently registered the trademark rights of Fifty Fifty without consulting the agency. The agency used tens of millions of dollars to steal the group that debuted.
6. CEO Ahn Sung-il registered all the copyrights as his own without asking the Swedish composer who wrote the title song "Cupid." He even stole a song from a Swedish composer.
7. CEO Ahn Sung-il even attempted to destroy evidence to cover up everything with CEO Jeon Hong-joon's crime. Fortunately, all the evidence has been preserved and restored, but they are still trying to destroy it.
8. The relatives of CEO Ahn Sung-il and professional trainers and producers who participated in the Fifty Fifty management persuaded Fifty Fifty to apologize to CEO Jeon Hong-joon and start over. But they completely ignored it.
9. They even filed a criminal complaint against CEO Jeon Hong-joon for breach of trust when the negotiations broke down and it was likely to become increasingly unfavorable. I don't think it's a civil suit anymore, so I was trying to make a crime.
10. Fifty Fifty claimed that CEO Jeon Hong-joon announced their illness without consent and that he sexually harassed them. But then they actually signed a contract with an agency that produces sexy adult movies. Why did the girls, who were angry that the CEO committed sexual harassment, sign a contract with an agency that produces racy adult films? Doesn't that odd?
11. CEO Ahn Sung-il won his own contract with Warner Bros. Music Group without notifying CEO Jeon Hong-joon. And I kept hiding it from CEO Jeon Hong-joon. He was trying to monopolize the overseas expansion through Warner Bros.
12. Fifty Fifty's parents gave back money to a producer of a current affairs culture program on SBS, one of Korea's leading terrestrial broadcasters, and unconditionally made biased reports in favor of Fifty Fifty. Viewers were very angry that SBS mocked viewers through biased reports. So the SBS homepage was paralyzed for 6 hours.
There are many other controversies and misdeeds, but there are 11 things I can sort out. If you need more, I will organize it again and reply to you later.
U made a comment better than the video😂
I’m sorry but for your hard work I have to applaud you 👏👏👏👏👏
I support the girls.
Yes, the CEO is a victim, but so are the girls.
These are teenagers.
Their parents were fooled by Ahn.
A really good commentary.
My problem: somebody is lying but I have no idea who it is. The girls don't strike me as greedy but, of course, I might be completely wrong. As a principle, I don't trust any musical company CEO - it does not matter whether they are selling their Rolexes or buying copyrights, money is all they are about. And there is a factor nobody really talks about (for a good reason - they are staying out of sight), the girls' parents.
My *guess* is that that somebody watched the Loona case and decided to pull off something similar: a really stupid idea because situations were as different as possible.
So the only thing I do know is who the losers are: it's me and all the other Fifty Fifty fans.
Right?! That's what I saying!!!!
There are several evidence that highly suggests that the girls and their parents are the ones who got greedy and lying about everything.
honestly i feel like the girls wanted to terminate their contracts even before Attarkt revealed the outside company and now he's just making a big deal out of it because the group got so big and just wants to profit off of them
1. The Givers (Shian) actually agreed a "buyout" of 50/50 from Warner Music Korea without confirming the actual "owner" of 50/50, ATTRAK.
2. Shian use the money from the CEO of ATTRAK to buy "Cupid" but register the copyright under his name, his company and one of his employee for a total of 99.5% (the other 0.5% goes to one of the 50/50 member).
3. The parents of 50/50 members tried to register trademarks of the group's name and the stage name of the members despite the trademarks already owned by ATTRAK. Their argument was that the trademarked names was treated differently in English and Korea, which is an absurd claims.
There, 3 facts that could be the icing on the cake. For me at least. Did the members backstabbed their CEO? Maybe. But even if they did I would not put the blame entirely on them. They're young and new to the industry. My take on this case is this: after the instant success of "Cupid", someone get greedy and able to persuade the members (the members parents, to be excact) to follow his scheme with lies and deceptions. I think we all know who that someone is.
Might I add that I have a hard time clearing Attrakt out of suspicion due to how strangely they act on this case:
I don't get why would they go this public on a case which would clearly and immensely hurt their highly successful product's reputation, unless there were already problems behind the scenes.
I mean, it seems logical only as a means to ditch Fifty Fifty while maintaining their company's name intact as they prepare for their next successful group.
(Just to clarify, even if there were such problems, as the group members suggest with their lawsuits, I wouldn't jump to attack Attrakt because for all I know it might have also been due to their lack of experience as a company.)
*important edit: the timeline by itself seems to have awaken a disagreement, and so I'd suggest to read the following thread for more details.
@@alexandercohen1149 bro what the givers or Produser do its already criminal no mater what happen media will now but the member sudenly want to leave agency thats the main problem here
i already read dispatch What MEMBER claims is not proven at all the,ceo attrack have to many evidences like Phone Recording how shian or ceo the giver lie about buyout and he steal the copyriht from sweden studen who make cupid thats why knet its so angry to member and the giver
thats why i cant suport fifty2 for now cos all of evident but i just wait
@@alexandercohen1149 Attrakt is a very small agency. They don't have a trainee program yet. When they start the 50/50 project they didn't even have trainees. All of the 50/50 members was outsourced from another agency.
for me the girls always think how to use cupid to be more successful..no shows, no promotion, no advertisement..make them think twice about their company..
@@alexandercohen1149 gtfo it's the girls who filed the lawsuit that went public first. producer Jeon hasn't said one thing negative about the girls. He even went as far as to defends the girls saying their just kids being manipulated by grownups. So far he's only provide evidence against producer Ahn. contrary to what you may believe Attrakt hasn't done one thing suspicious.
Whatever the insider information may be, the thing is that FIFTY FIFTY is done for as a group.
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
there is no coming back from this
The Korean public will never forget it tbh. They might have a shot internationally,but in Korea? No chance.
@@jessicajessica4392 are you considering Korea to consist of only you?? 😂😂
@@varunkandhari4819 No, but past scandals show that as soon as a scandal touches an idol in Korea that makes the public go against a group, there is no recovering from it, even when allegations are fake (T-ARA, IKON, Soojin). That is sad because I don't think the group deserves that, there are a lot of pressures and a lot of greedy people involved, but one thing is certain, the Korean general public is rarely forgiving and Dispatch is working overtime to cover the case.
He invested his own over $6mill into them, he supported and believed in them.... Yet because they want the easy and instant prosperous route through the bigger name Ent Co. they want out ... They signed a contract, so they're just going to do him dirty like that just because he doesn't have the huge budget of the other Big Co.... Cold blooded
too many companies involved. if all lies within the contracts...the girls are caught right in the middle of this mess. i hope it all gets resolved quickly so as not to hurt the girls progress so far...they are extremely talented young ladies..their voices are amazing. it would be such a waste to undo this awesome group because of the internal fighting of all these entities wanting to claim the fame. good luck , i am a huge fan and hope these companies come to a mutual agreement that benefits all parties. Don't let greed ruin the chances for these girls , they deserve better.....it is better to make "some" money rather than 'no' money.....
The girls could have been directly involved in all this mess. Don't judge quickly.
Their success was planned. They don't have the underdog story the kpoppies are looking for. Their company paid $6M to tiktok to push the song. This is what you get for cheating instead of climbing the stairs one by one, you fall. Deserved.
Wow that sucks for the girls because Barbie Dreams is such a hit I would’ve love to see them perform that song or even a music video
As the korean, I'm so curious what you guys think, what do you think? whose fault? mine is fiftfift. I think their choices are ruining their careers.
I think that the biggest fault is on the givers side aka shian
And after him I'd blame fifty fifty and their parents for being so greedy and ungrateful
@@lana_354 i agree, someone who manipulating this situation is biggest fault on.
@@lana_354temptation will come your way. It is your responsibility to turn down those temptations. Girls are as bad as the givers.
I hope they go back to their CEO and beg for forgiveness and mercy. I hope CEO accept them back and make all his money back. I hope CEO never give them further albums after he makes his money back while keeping them under contract. I hope CEO starts new girl group and make them next BTS/Black Pink while 5050 gets forgotten by everyone. I hope all of the above events will teach 5050 real lesson in life. I hope newly born members will regret their greedy life choices and have a happy life away from entertainment business.
@@vashonmart
I agree
I hope that if the ceo is 100% not guilty, that he makes another successful group
Bcz then they will regret everything they did
So far their label have more solid evidence than fifty fifty and the givers. If it is continue like this, the givers and fifty fifty won't stand a chance, unless... Very interesting to see how it will be going
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
@@varunkandhari4819 it dosen't matter what he did in the past what matter is present. Even if he really did pay dispatch we need a prove of that, same goes with 5050 and the givers. Bcs all we see from all party now are just assumption. Idols and bussinesman are just human being that have greed within them
@@vn5979so what proof do you need from fifty fifty. Because they did nothing wrong, they're ending their contracts because they aren't getting paid, which is a breach of the contract they signed. The girls aren't selfish. They're smart and have a good head on their shoulders, I know aran, sio, keena and saena wouldn't ever do something like that, especially aran, sio and saena. Like just stop attacking the girls because they just want to get paid like they were supposed to.
@@frickenflapcraps they're rookies, remember? The last thing a rookie should worry about is getting paid. Their main jobs should be working hard to make their names and fandom built on a rock. Even Twice didn't get paid during their 1st year. BTS didn't get a single cent for a whole 3 years!
Filing a lawsuit against your own company because a rookie didn't get paid is a gross offense in Korea. Why? Because Korean knows how much it takes to debut a group. Not just in terms of money. All small company CEO always, I repeat ALWAYS, have to sacrifice something to make sure their groups do well. K-Pop is a fierce battle grounds. To succeed you have to bleed, a Korea saying that I heard 12 years ago. The Korean public knows that too bc it's been like that since forever. That's why they turned against 50/50 the moment they files the lawsuit. They were on the girls side at the beginning. It's very rare in Korea to see the general public sided with a company when idol goes against their company. Very very rare. I've been following K-Pop since 2004 and saw many many scandals and this is the 1st time I see Korean public turned against the idols, young idols at that. Korean have a very soft spot towards young idols. So it's kinda weird seeing this now, at least for me.
@@frickenflapcraps yea yea...continue with your fandom dreams...sigh xD
Attrak HIRED "the Givers." They were a consultant/producer for Attrak. Attrak being a small company did not have an in-house producer. The Givers took Attrak's money to produce "Cupid" and it's supposed hand over the song rights to Attrak but kept it intead. The relationship between the two companies were like a client(Attrak) and a consultant(The Givers) . The Givers was paid in full for their services but they got greedy and lured the artists to break the contract with Attrak.
The Giver's CEO has a track record of stealing his clients' artists. Virtually EVERYONE in Korea is shocked by the Giver's unprofessional behavior. The artists lured away by the Givers usually end up getting buried in oblivion after an initial profit.
KNOW YOUR FACTS BEFORE MAKING A VIDEO ABOUT IT. They have voice recordings that proves everything.
Even the former The Lush members (who under CEO before) step up for Attark CEO yesterday, speak up for him..
Its the fact that people on Twitter are so adamant that CEO JHJ is the bad guy💀 i bet almost none of them are even getting the whole picture before jumping to conclusions
Twitter in a nutshell
twt is right in this case, the owner of the commodity is usually to blame
@@someonethereQ Twitter isn't right at all. We have no clue who is in the wrong at this point until we actually see evidence. I have seen through Twitter and there are many fabricated posts and they only share part of the story. You are brainwashed if you think Twitter is right. Literally brainwashed.
@@someonethereQ This is what happens when you don't do your own research and just get spoonfed by biased people. Wake up.
@@abouttime2569
we are all biased and everything we see is propaganda, i personally do not like to assume ceos are the good people in ANY case as their main motivation is making money, that usually diminishes their morals
I totally support the group in fighting against exploitative contracts, made worse by the total corporate disfunction. It all just makes Cupid and the members more and more popular in the US and globally. Sorry, they aren't going anywhere. Stay strong!
The only place they are going is to a basement somewhere in Seoul where they can be stuck for years until their contracts expire while owning a small fortune in trainee and legal debts. There are already calls for Attrakt to counter sue the group. They could be paying for this for a good portion of their lives. Oh, well
It's over for these girls after losing big time in the court of public opinion and now in the court of law. If their company is not completely broke due to the girl's antics it can relaunch 5050 with new members and surf on the groups name and the public goodwill thereof.
Have you been actually 'READING' the news...? or did you just crawled out of your basement?
I'll wait until this is all settled, but I will say this. I can't think of an example of someone getting screwed in the music industry where management or the label were the good guys. As the old saying goes, "There are three sides to every story. Your side, my side, and the truth."
Not saying that they couldn't possibly have done anything wrong, but if someone were to ask me to wager money on who was the scheming party looking to rip someone else off between a group of young girls who sing and dance, or corporate music industry insiders, CEOs, managers, and a record label, I wouldn't bet on the singers.
These days, you can find any number of social media shills who'll prostitute themselves out to whomever will give them money, to put out whatever that party want people to think. Fake stories on Twitter or Facebook, RUclips videos that spew misinformation, you name it, and people suffer damages because someone was willing to take money to say whatever they were paid to say.
If is ends up that Fifty Fifty are indeed "done" in Korea, they can come to America. We'd love to have them. Well, I would, for sure.
I am glad i support all kpop idols and didn't jump in an instant in the FIFTY FIFTY hate bandwagon. Everytime there's a backlash against somebody it always backfires on the fans and online community.
unfortunate the way greed destroys
It may take more time than anyone wants, but I believe that we have not heard the last of these young ladies. Hopefully, they'll still be together.❤
They purposely canceled those big schedules. If the court decides who is at fault, there is no going back. Girls and management company will not be able to work together. In the event girls loose, they have to pay penalty fee to attrakt. The fee is calculated as follows. Monthly average of their income multiply by number of remaining months under contract.
In other words, girls choose to sue the company prior to big money schedules so those schedules will be forced to be canceled. Canceled schedules will not bring in any income and will not count against them as penalty fees. Further proof of their plan is revealed when it was revealed that PD Ahn rejected commercial contract offer without informing the CEO.
Rest of lawsuit excuses dont make any sence either. Twice still went through their schedules when Mina and Jeong-Yeon was sick. Entire 5050 recieved break when one member got sick. Text message from CEO to Ahn shows CEO never subjectbthe girls to inhumane schedules. Truth: 5050 only did 22 schedules in 5 month span while other groups goes through multiple schedules per day.
Which app do you use for text speech
Sharing information about CEO selling his Rolex and car in nothing else but playing on people's emotions. He is a CEO, this is his job. He didn't sold his car for those girls, he sold it for investment purposes and to gain profit from girls activities. Dont forget about that.
Exactlyyy it’s all PR pre-cover-up
thank you for this video!!!! it clears many misinformation
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
They are now under tons of blame in Korea for their behavior. Public media such as TV variety show, music show, TV ads, etc. in Korea are now rejecting them to appear. K-CON LA 2023 on August in Los Angeles, California has canceled participation of Fifty fifty. Advertisement for big name company, Samsung, has been canceled. Advertisement with famous soccer player Son Heung Min in England premier league has been canceled. Participation of K pop concert in London, England in November has been canceled. Apperance of movie "Barbie" OST music video has been canceled .
They are doomed. Their greediness will cost them their short and promising career.
@@villagranvicent they are doomed for now, however, they will come back in ways that will make you surprised.
The international fans basically have been left in dark. So much detail is missing in this video. But it is the best non-Korean video so far. It is now super obvious that it’s 5050’s fault. So sorry for the fans.
I wouldn't put the blame entirely on them. Remember, they're young and rookies to the game. All of them still under their parents guardianship (the legal age in Korea is 20). And their parents didn't know better, I guess. They could've been easily deceived into this. The guy behind this mess, Siahn, is a long time player in K-Pop. He knows all the tricks. Attrack trust him too much.
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
In the scandal with S#arp, the ceo stood up for the other side, not for the bullinging side.
I m korean and I watched the press interview in those days.
His words changed the atmosphere and made the public see the true fact.
That' s why most korean people stand for him now.
@@pommekr wrong it was the manager and not the CEO.
@varunkandhari4819 you are right.
The manager witnessed it and the ceo had the matter investigated and admitted the manager was right.
The ceo didn't betray his conscience though it was not easy in that situation.
Can you make an update of this because there have been things proven to be false abt all this
it's sad and proves that even when some groups are extremely promising - everything from agency to management to training to the management and the direction and vision where you want to be all the way down to the members of Fifty Fifty - has to be fundamentally solid and all minds are having the same goal. When there is incompetence in management, unclear setups involved, when you are not still successful or not gaining any fame, greed will not appear yet.
The moment when Fifty Fifty gained recognition some people involved that sees wholes/flaws in the management and legal/operational structures, greed is unfortunately creeping up into their head.
Greed in some peoples's eyes will see the golden mountain vanish before their eyes! These people just shot themselves in the foot, because Fifty Fifty is sadly a sitting duck now and a comeback will be very hard for the girls.
I support the girls.
Yes, the CEO is a victim, but so are the girls.
These are teenagers.
Their parents were fooled by Ahn.
win, lose or draw... life goes on, at least all of the people involved learn the secrets on how to become a world star overnight (well almost, but quite fast though)
1. If you're setting up a new company, don't go blindly and hire a 3rd party company/representative/person especially in this type of industry (corporate wolves are everywhere), take it easy. If you still really need to hire a 3rd party (idk maybe you're a washing machine CEO suddenly have the urge to make an entertainment company with zero knowledge in the field) never take things lightly and never trust them 100 percent. Closely monitor and pay attention to their actions, not just "hey, take care of this, heres the money, now im going to sleep"
2. If your a new group from a Nugu company (even the big ones) and feel like being mistreated, don't go all guns out instantly, secure the customers/listeners/fans trust first, collect all evidence that points to the issue in the mean time so you have a strong case to defend.
3. If you're dealing with a multinational company take extra precautions when dealing with them, theres a reason why they are successful in the first place, need to have a "you snooze, you lose. You sleep, you weep" kind of mind sets when dealing with them.
4. Think hard before acting out on something, no matter what your friends or family say or want you to do, they will always be giving orders and advice from third person point of view.
These girls don’t deserve this..
Why would you say that? You don't even know how much the girls were involved in this scam.
lovely on my bday (28 june) was when fifty fifty were called "backstabbers"
until everything is PROPERLY in place, i'm not gonna make my judgement yet.
The girls really self sabotage themselves whether they realize it or not, the expectation of their success is now raised to a higher level. It's a fantasy for a small company to create a group as popular as the big 4 in such little time. Not to mention the ceo's sacrificed so much to help 50/50.
All I can say is , if 50/50 happen to make a comeback the new song has to be better than "Cupid". Yet if they joined a new label they would exploit the hell out of the girls expecting the same success they made before.
I WILL NEVER UNDERSTAND why you random people who don't even FOLLOW fifty fifty, and only know them because of cupid, think the girls are evil and backstabbers. Like just stop 😭 their debut album was literally amazing and they're insane singers, aran and sio specifically. They're also very intelligent and have a good head on their shoulders. It's so stupid you guys are defending THE CEO AND FEELING BAD FOR HIM?!? when they're literally just money grabbing machines. Fifty fifty ended their contract because he literally BREACHED THEIR CONTRACT by not paying them.
@@frickenflapcraps and little girl you have no idea what you are talking about...please leave the conversations to adults ;)
@@frickenflapcraps maybe because you are 50/50 fans that everything they do is good for you. And why many people in Korea defend the CEO ? Maybe because they provide evidence that cannot be refute while the Giver or 50/50 only give their assumption.
@@frickenflapcrapsou don’t know them personally stop acting as if they wouldn’t do this and that when there are more evidences against them than evidences that support them.
You obviously don’t know how the industry works. A nugu group will not be paid from the very try beginning like the newer big 3 + Hybe groups as they have trainee and debut debts.
So what the odds of the group coming out unscathed? Fifty Fifty :)
So external forces and complex situations followed by external forces and complex situations followed by even more external forces and complex situations led to more complex situations
basically sums it all up lmao
In your opinion after all the rumors and hate for them in many many comments will these four girls ever perform together again ?
Honestly i did not know about them .. sad when the music title is more famous than the artist🙃
See idk who to believe, like if we think about it yeah the component could have been at fault but then what if it is actually getting screwed over
Same thing for fifty fifty, they rose to fame quick (I like them too) but maybe it went to there head and they did betray the component but also what if they didn't and they are the affected party it just a bad situation all around
Dang Lovin Me 🎶 Im Jus Lovin This Fifty Fifty Hunnies 🎶 Music and Dance; Its going to take more then CUPID 💘 🏹 and BARBIE DREAMS 🎶 To Save this Awesome Group They Will Really Need To LOG IN 🎶 To Find Some Great Minds in the Music Industry To Lift This Dream FIFTY FIFTY HUNNIES K POP Group HIGHER and HIGHER 🎶 Please tell me its not over ❤
Your version is very fair and accurate!
Fifty Fifty members betrayed the good one who sacrificed for them that's the facts even all songwriters against members rarely happens because company often trouble with songwriters
Time to bring this train wreck to an end, and these girls be taken in by stable, competent management before dreams are crushed.
the faster you boom up especially with lies the faster you also loose everything
I know opinion might be divided in terms of who might be at fault, but it's certainly not fifty fifty and either way they were screwed over. Hopefully they're so talented and it was and it was and I hope they can continue together as a group and a solo artist, regardless if it's under the same or new group name. Also, they're still young so there's a chance that they could rebrand, join other groups or debut as solar artist or any combination of these things
The girls went along with the con knowingly. Whether they were influenced by a third party or not, the girls knew what they were doing.
@@abouttime2569 These greedy girls let that scammer producer get in their heads, and now they are doomed. What a waste!
😮 thx for upload
Dizzying success and fame also bring forth radical decisions.....😐😐😐
Lesson learned for yrs to come
Rip fifty²😢
I think in order to avoid being a one-hit wonder, they should choose to either release another super catchy song (possibly utilizing social media dance challenges etc just as Cupid went viral) OR pull away from the cookie cutter teenie bop and release a harder track showcasing their rappers more in the vein of XG maybe. (Keena is an actual dope rapper IMO and not just playing the “rapper” role). It would be a shame to be a one-hit wonder because all in all I think they really have the elements of a full package and have the potential to be big.
Dang The Temptations back in the day had issues with management
they just released the song for the barbie movie, can someone explain?
They were supposed to release an mv along with it but it got canceled
it wasn't they. It was Attrakt who released the song
I just want to see Aran, even if it's going to be a solo act 😋
I feel bad for these girls
🤗♥️👌👍👊mi apoyo total para fifty fifty
They 4 members kept on lying by saying the triviap things repeatedly. But interestingly they never complained about PD ASI, Manager Back Jinsil who treated them very rudely. How can at least 12 people(4 members +8 parents) are so evil-like ans have NO common sense? I feel VERY SORRY AND WORRY for CEO who had to meet these people and go through this turnmoil regardless his intention. He is just a too nice guy in Kpop industry
One hit wonder facts.
telling people they shouldn't be expecting a check for their work is crazy
Not really. That is how the music industry works. Payment comes in cycles. You just don't have a clue how the payment system works. This is not your average job where you get your monthly check.
Korea Is crazy, the way they treat their idols is so NASTY, they expect them to be slaves🤢🤢🤢
@@abouttime2569 their music was literally a big hit, and who takes the money? The business men and the company 😂😂😂 F*CK YOUR INDUSTRY literally a punch of thieves
@@nour4828 Oh look! Another person who has no idea what this controversy is about. Yet he is talking like he knows what he is talking about lmao. The CEO is broke at this point. Yea sure he is rich if you say he is.
its true that siahn got the copyright for cupid. but that didnt bring him the most income. for example spotify gives less than 10% to the copyright owner of the song. around 5-6% to the performing artists and the biggest part to the company of the artist, so attrakt should still get the biggest part.
the problem is that attrakt give all his income to another company of the CEO to pay for some debts he made in the past. Thats money laundering and tax evasion that will leave the girls as victims without any income no matter what they do. no wonder the girls try to leave.
Are you have evidence that back up your statement. Abecause money laundering and tax evasion is big accusations.
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
@@varunkandhari4819 Here you are again spreading wrong info. Are you guys in some kind of forum that are dedicated in spreading wrong info?
@@hahi0982 please do your research. And not just go by news articles that are sponsored by your dear CEO
@@hahi0982It's correct info
The cancellation is expected as they file lawsuit to terminate contract. They can't participate any activities while lawsuit yet to be settled.
Btw you didn't mention reports from Dispatch and Fifty Fifty's parent file for trademark of the group's name
Please read the news. The CEO is the same guy who was involved in the Bullying scandal with S#arp group in the past where he allowed the bullying to take place and sided with the guilty party. He was also the same CEO that mismanaged the group “HOTSHOT”. Right now he is paying news articles such as DISPATCH to say good things about him. He is currently being accused for Embezzlement and Fraud. He is looking at jail time for now.
The dispatches are from soojins hater who made false accusations about her.
@@darklightss_ all dispatch news are REAL SINCE KOREAN MEDIA IS ALREADY REPORTING ABOUT IT.
@@varunkandhari4819who are you? Did they paid you to spread these false rumours....you are copying same comment everywhere....5050 have very bad reputation in korea...so they will an one hit wonder....but you should stop spreading false rumours about ceo...
Momoland of 4th me thinks.
What are you economic, or socials scientific
background and what type of reaserch you did do it to get information...? Who gave you the perspective over the music and entertainment industry globally? Can you say your source?
You are a RUclipsr doing a commentary video?
You did not expressed that everything is only speculations, guard your back, you want to express yourself, but doesn't know that this is misinformation... Is a serious thing. I'm sure you want to be treated equally, no especial treatment no matter what, after all this is not only passion, is basically a way to form opinions.
That is the dangerous part, and I'm sure you are being professional. Like any big or small channel are under the same guidelines.
There is nothing wrong with them In my opinion, but when I heard this lawsuit , I was Like what kind of bullshit is this
Is american companies out to take a piece of the kpop market or smth? Why else would they give rookies so much promotion?
Cupid is the only Kpop Song that my semi kpop hater cousin likes
To all of the people siding with their CEO and hating on the girls, accusing them of being "greedy" and "backstabbing" their CEO, you all obviously don't know anything about this CEO that you all are mindlessly meat riding without paying attention to the fact their CEO has been in the industry for over 20+ years and is a PR person, meaning he has connections with powerful people in the industry and has been able to seamlessly get himself out of his past scandals without so much as a scratch to his rep.
He was the CEO the company that mistreated and mismanaged a 3rd gen bg named Hot Shot who had to disband due to being neglected by this company.
Another one of his former artists posted in support of Fifty Fifty, claiming that he had treated her terribly as well and that she had always wanted to do something about him. There's no reason why, when FF has been getting dragged through the mud since they decided to sue, that this woman would show support for them knowing that she'd start receiving massive amounts of hate as well if she wasn't lying.
Lastly, their CEO was involved in the S#arp scandal. S#arp was a 1st gen co-ed group that disbanded due to the members bullying one of their female members. The company they were under threw this member under the bus instead of defending her and guess what? FF's CEO was apart of the head of people managing S#arp's company and he was one of the people that ruined the female member's career and reputation, but lied and made it seem as if he was always on her side years later.
Lastly, other than not allowing the FF members to see how much money they're supposed to be paid and not paying them (which is obviously illegal because no one wants to not know how much they're being paid, let alone not being paid anything. Who tf would want to work for free?), their CEO also released personal information about the girls (the public was told that Aran had gotten surgery) which is also obviously illegal because they didn't consent to their information being told to the public, so it was a violation of their rights. The CEO also lied and told the director that was going to be in charge of filming their music video for "Barbie Dreams" that Keena had covid even though she didn't along with telling them that Aran had surgery, so that's why the music video filming was canceled.
Now, their company is in the process of trying to trademark their group name in multiple different countries, which will prevent the girls from being able to promote anywhere with the name they have now.
All of this information can be found on Twitter by Nugu Promoter and a few other accounts. It can also be found on Naver, but you'll probably have a hard time finding the info since K-netz have been attacking anyone who's been providing evidence on there that their CEO is a piece of trash.
These girls are innocent and it's obvious to me that all of you who were so quick to side with their poor excuse of a CEO already didn't like the girls to begin with, probably because y'all are mad and bitter that Cupid got as popular as it did. That's why it's still charting too. ❤
They sought to rectify an unjust contract for their own benefit. The unrelated stories surrounding them should not be conflated. In certain instances, there is a tendency in Korean culture to embark on witch hunts.
All initial contracts are unjust. Companies invest in groups without knowing if the group will succeed so for the first few years they always get majority of profits. Here probably girls and their parents thought that if they made it this big they can dictate the conditions and they can risk a conflict with the company coz they had an upper hand due to their rapid popularity. They overplayed and that's it. Now they will be in legal battle for the next year and they will fade to irrelevance. In few years CEOs will give their story to trainees as a cautionary tale
Nothing to do with unjust contacts. Feels like the parents are trying to nitpick and find fault so that the girls can get out of their contracts and sign with a bigger more wealthy agency. This is a big no no in Korean society...
fifty fifty's like the new blackpink
I don’t mean to be rude at anyway but,fifty fifty kinds ruined Kpop for me,the fact that all this happend is I don’t know how to say it, fifty fifty is messed up,it kinda ruined it for me (no hate) im gonna share this
Edit: y'all, this is my opinion,and also I will support them if anything does happen I will support so yea
It has ruined it for me because they are the best group I've heard in 6 years of following the industry and that it all ends so quickly is sad
@@mounther7881 it doesnt look good. im in shock too. i come to kpop with brave girls. and they are completly different. i have learned to not give up that easily. its not over now. 50/50 still have the chance to fight through all this shit. there is a lot of gaslighting in the industry. if its to much maybe take a brake and wait till the dark clouds flys away.
Luckily I stan IVE before 50 50. Better to be a multistan than a single group stan because anything can happen at anytime to any single group...
@@hannahtemple2225 it kinda like idk how to explain out of all this time I heard kpop they just took it idk how to explain it's a little hard to explain
@@ludwigneigl891 yea I mean like I'll support them, but they just don't give really like their satitioned In kpop kindaa
I really like the video but this music is so annoying. Pls use next time better music or no music
Yeah, I realized that I made the music a bit too loud, next time I'll make it less loud 😭
i have saw a post of you saying fifty fifty ruined theirs carees, but you are totally wrong. if you had saw, their label is taking a lot of wrong attitudes, like sending the money of them to a label that is not from fifty fifty and not treating them well. the manager sold his car? yes. we all thought it was for a good reason, but he is not a good guy. imagine if they release another songs? it's like what happen to taylor swift and chuu. so the right time to do it is now 😊
Any proof?
why my link isn't working
ok looks like the owner of the video is deleting the comments that have the proofs but i tried to show you
@@twicatcher okay
@@aquathewater869 can i post them on the comments of your videos?
Lmao not selling his car and rolex😂😂
Is this a joke? New Jeans had progressed a lot more than fifty fifty. Cupid was also plagiarized
The viral success was on the person who uploaded the video from yt to tiktok. Poor girls are being used by a siahn....
every thing that 5050 is is: a song. and those who performed it. IN this case, the performers had zero star power as they were total unknowns. so, well done to those Swedish students.
Exactly. the song is a hit, that's it. These girls will go to oblivion in a matter of months, shame they let that scammer producer get in their heads and go against the good CEO.
@@villagranvicent
there are no good ceos
중국 자본의 워너뮤직 ㅎ
Why does a tts sounds so realistic
Or this js a real voice..
Oh I used a tts
@@haevix where did u get the tts tho...
Nice video btw!!!!🏊♂️
@@mixxosite I used the tts on the online editing app called clipchamp!
you can just write the tts and export it without having to actually edit on there
These girls were happy they are like sisters doing everything together feels like these girls are being sabotaged because they are starting to scare the other kpop stars and rising stars under bigger companies so sad this situation cant just blame the girls they are not slaves they enjoy what they do I may be right or wrong but they do deserve royalties its also a bummer deals are all over the place and they are still fresh very sad
It's totally over for fifty fifty. Because it's a 100% going down 👇👇👎. Poor girls exploited by these companies 😢.
Barbie movie free ride on free promotion 😂
what a joke generational. going viral on tiktok is NOT having a hit song. nice try tho....
Genuine question: what kind of CEO is in the dark about soo many things. Why be CEO smd not know how to run your company? Why give soo power to your producer. Why would you not interact with the girls you are going into debt for. As your only group, you the CEO should know them well.
Why just go along with anything and everything the producer says?
I just don't understand. Bases on his behavior one could say he was more like a silent invester than a CEO.