Reflecting on Seven Years of Writing
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3.5 month average is so spectacular! I have books I call my 'decade books' and books I call my 'year books'. The year books are typically fun and fluffy and I can bang a decent draft of them out in a year. Decade books obviously take much longer. They require a lot of research and also I definitely procrastinate them. I do believe if I applied the right kind of pressure, I could get those done much more quickly. But they are much more likely to suffer from 'ideal book syndrome' than my fluffy books. I just know that the theoretical book in my head is so much better than the one I will write and so it makes me want to wait and wait and wait until the perfect moment to write (which of course never comes).
i kinda like the idea of a decade book! It seems like something fun to tinker with when you need a break from your year projects. Lower stakes, since there is no looming deadline.
Although yes the time will never come if you don't eventually get it on page haha
I love that you write skeleton drafts/bare first drafts. I'm hoping to get into the habit of doing that!!
Well I'm glad you love it because it feels like a mess to me LOL
It takes me about a year to get a first draft out. Thankfully, I can revise pretty well pretty fast and make up time in my next drafts. I’m a writer that hates writing it seems!
Your comments on why it was so hard to write The Odds really struck a chord for me! I’ve been feeling insecure about my current project and it was validating to hear your previous concerns, especially having read and loved The Odds!
You must be one of those luck folks who write a decently clean first draft! So jealous!
omg that is soooo sweet! Thank you for sharing your love of The Odds
i loved this video & i always appreciate hearing about your drafting & outlining process 😊
Thank you so much!!
This is so helpful, thank you! I have so many ideas and I want to work on them all, but I feel like I don’t have time. Like if I don’t get them all done today, I’ll never do them. But seeing you show how expanded the storytelling process really is and how much time it actually does take (especially showing how it worked for seven whole dang years) Makes it a lot easier to think in terms of having more time rather than less.
it's definitely a slow, building block type of process!
Wow! Your process is SO interesting! Especially with how your first drafts are more like zero drafts and it’s really cool to see the time between each draft and how your ideas develop. I’m excited for PROJECT PYRO and BITTER BONES!! 😍
My process is definitely different since I’m a screenwriter, novelist, and short story writer. Each medium is so different that my process is different. I’m definitely an underwriter and my scripts, novels, and even my novellas will be underwritten in their first drafts. I’ve written 3 completed contemporary fantasy novellas: 21K, 39.5K, and about 20K (in their final draft form between 2014 and 2018). I’ve been writing scripts since 2007 (and have written 36 scripts total-yes, really!) and fiction even longer, but I started taking my fiction writing more seriously in 2012.
My very first official novel I wrote in 2020/2021. It’s a YA contemporary fantasy about a disabled bounty hunter, and the first draft clocked in at 32K, lol. I did some intense revisions, but never revised beyond about 65 pages (even though I got a grant for it) because I had to work on my PhD dissertation script and novel. My PhD dissertation novel, an Adult contemporary fantasy, is adapted from my pilot script. I started writing it in 2022. The first draft was about 45K. I had deadlines for my dissertation novel, so I finished the first draft in March 2023, the second draft July 2023, and the third draft in August 2023, so I could turn it into the library. Then I took a 7 month hiatus and wrote the 4th draft in March 2024 in about a week. Currently waiting on feedback so I can revise and write the 5th draft and query. My third novel is also adapted from a pilot script that I wrote last year. The novel is a YA horror and I’ve only written the first 2 chapters. I haven’t finished the full first draft yet, but maybe this summer! 🤞
amazing to get a glimpse of your process!
Super insightful! Five books in seven years is amazing! I thought I'd be that prolific, but noooope. Lol.
Really cool to confirm that the drafting process isn't necessarily linear. Not every successive book takes less time to write. Yes, you get better and more confident about your craft and that cuts down the time, but there are so many factors outside of the work that play into it. Also, I love that you actually are tracking when you start and finish your drafts. I'm not sure I can do that for all of my WIPs unless I find a journal entry where I mention it, or maybe check the creation date of one my Scrivener files or Google docs 😅
The zero drafting concept is interesting to me. When I think of how I normally start books, it usually starts with a scene that pops into my head that I just riff on for a few weeks. Then I go back and try to make sense of what the hell I was writing by creating a full plot outline and work on the draft after that. So I guess my brainstorming and first draft kind of blend together?
I do look forward to being able to analyze how I work in the future, but to date, I've only finished multiple drafts of two books, and have outlines/partial drafts for too many other ones. But I think I can say that so far, I intentionally take about 4 weeks off between drafts before going back to it.
Your process sounds so interesting! Thanks for sharing :)
I love seeing stats! If I add up the individual writing days, my first drafts usually take about 2-3 months. However, those days are sometimes spread between days and days of not writing thanks to autism, adhd and chronic fatigue, so it can look like it takes me about 6-9 months lol. I tend to burn myself out a lot because I write all day on my good days, I’m trying to be better about that so I can write a bit more consistently. My least favourite part of writing is dev edits/draft 2 (and 3 sometimes) so that can vary a lot depending on how invested I am or when I hyper focus. The last drafts are fairly quick, about 1 month cos I enjoy line and copy edits.
oof i feel you on wanting to overdo it on your good days! I had to work hard to get to the place I am now with my consistency, and even then still struggle.
And same! dev edits are the woooooorst
My 1st draft sounds a lot like your 2nd drafts, but i do a comprehensive outline beforehand, so i know what im about to write for each chapter. then my 2nd drafts take the longest because i fix a lot of things at once, then my 3rd aims to tighten everything, the plot, the word count, the pace, etc.
Out of 2 books so far my 1st drafts have taken me 4-5 months, my 2nd 6-8 months, and my 3rd 2-3 months!
amazing!
Hey! I just subscribed to you! It would be so cool it you could run a masterclass online or something! I feel your advice would be super valuable
omg welcome aboard! Thank you so much :) I'm definitely not masterclass worthy but I'm flattered! haha
Okay but that animal crossing mug of yours is so adorable!!! It was great going through your stats, especially if it leads to you talking about how you draft/outline in more detail.
haha thank you! I love it!
I have quite a few videos on my processes if you'd like to check those out! They are all in my writing process playlist :)
Love the mug!! ❤❤
thank you!! Me too :)
I have written my whole life, but only seriously writing for the last 18 months. My first book took the longest, but I have a flow going now. I write short cozy mysteries (about 45-50K words). I outline for a month, draft for 2, then I send it to my editor for a content edit. The various rounds of editing usually take a month (content, line, and proofreading), and then I self publish. I'm working on my 4th and 5th book right now (drafting book 5 while book 4 goes through its line edits). Its a lot... but it seems to be working well.
oh wow! Jealous about how quickly you get through your dev, line, and proofreads! It takes me foreverrrrrr
4/5/6 months for first draft. Revisions take me longer and I don't usually count between drafts so anywhere from 4-14 months to get ready to go to editor! Loved this look back tho. You've done amazing things! ❤
Thanks so much, Joey! It seems like our writing/revising speeds aline!
Brilliant video!
thank you!
I can't work on more than one project because characters are my weak point and if I lose touch with them, they revert to cardboard cut-outs :(
First draft took me 3 months, second draft is dragging... (picking up speed now though 💪)
I feel this is much! Mine are def weak until my third draft
Seeing it broken down like this is neat for me. I LOVE crunchy LIT-RPG / DungeonCore books, even though I have trouble with numbers and processing, the data is still kinda of fun.
I don't think I have actually finished a first draft though. I can write 50K words in 2 weeks (when healthy or I get time) but that doesn't mean they are good. I have 3 projects I am semi-serious about but I keep stopping them when I notice I am crossing over the books. Doesn't help when you get Sci-fi mixed with dungeon fantasy, or my Isekai character is suddenly piloting a mech.
LOL i mean that still sounds interesting hahaha
I took a break from my WIP for a year, still working on the first draft 😢
Keep going!
love the way you used your stats. I've been pretty much waiting for Nano to kick my butt and then waiting a year to revise. I'm going to start some stats now that I've seen how organized you are!
so glad I inspired you! haha I love keeping track of my writing over time