I'm quite new to Linux, as of now I'm currently using pop_os, I'd like to know if while using kdm will tweaks an extensions still work an flatpaks, specifically I need something like vitals to monitor my Temps and greewithenvy an nvidia x server settings for my gpu can I still be able to do that with kdm
I totally understand! Dolphin was like that for me at first. hated it because of all the hidden options, but began to appreciate it after learning a bit more and adding shortcuts to stuff i find use of. I guess thats the best way to use KDE. Explore, set and forget.
@@alexweissnicht9545 That overly customizable desktop is also a bad thing. Even if in fact kde was not to hard to navigate, the amount of options, little tweaks is just overwhelming. Macs, gnome, deepin have proven that focus on the out of the box experience and including only essential options is just better. The perfect comparison would be new and old Windows 10 file manager. The best tool is dead simple/minimalistic on the outside, but also more and more powerful as you start exploring it. KDE gives me an impression of a pile of stacked garbage
KDE, even by default, is so complete I cannot think about another desktop environment. It's so ready to use even for people that don't want to customize anything.
I love the desktop, too, but small quibble, it's not called KDE anymore. That's the organization behind it. It's called Plasma now or KDE Plasma if you like. :)
@@user-th5mp1cv3h Sort of. It's like having a Chevrolet Cavalier and saying you have a GM. KDE is the organisation that makes the Plasma desktop. Plasma is the desktop environment. The KDE organization makes it. Back when it was used, nobody called the Unity desktop Canonical.
07:00 Is a perfect point - it's easier to let advanced users add things than overwhelm the casuals and have THEM remove the stuff they don't use. You put it perfectly and I hope plasma devs take it to heart. Gosh I feel like I'm repeating myself too much but I can't keep gushing about how well you communicated such an important criticism. Great work Nick.
Cheer up then! They're aware of this and have been putting a lot of effort into it recently, especially as part of Breeze Evolution and their common goal of consistency.
I disagree, to an extent. I think it's easier to have all the features built-in, but have features that are not commonly used turned off by default. Then, let advanced users or novice user who need a certain feature, turn on the features they need. We certainly don't want to turn KDE Plasma into GNOME where users are forced to add buggy and unsupported plugins to an application (or the desktop) just to make it useful. That stuff should be built-in.
Welcome to the light, brother. lol To me, KDE is, hands down, the best DE out there. KDE connect is even better than apple's airdrop or whatever they call it.
@@arizapathan613 And I don't think they'll ever be able to. Apple's ecosystem is locked down very tightly to work only with other Apple's products. Have you tried installing Linux on a newer MacBook? 2016 and newer are a nightmare. My fault, I should've specified that kde connect works well for Android.
Honestly the first time i looked at KDE Plasma's settings panel i said WTF and after 5 minutes i realised it has tooo much power inside it i was overwhelmed in a good way :))
In addition to the immense amount of customization, KDE is incredibly fast, powerful and smooth which is something extraordinary. Other desktop environments that don't even offer half the power that Plasma does, but yet they're choppy and somehow heavier on system resources. This ambitious project never fails to pleasantly surprise me.
can't remember his name, but a few days ago, a KDE developer was reviewing gnome 40 and he said that it's important for KDE developers to make gtk based apps work alright in plasma.
Excellent review! All praise and criticisms are spot on, you show where Plasma really shines and where it really could use improvement. You're fair and balanced, and show real depth of knowledge using KDE Plasma which is sorely lacking in some reviews I've seen. Great stuff!
Changed over from years of Ubuntu to Kubuntu 21.04. KDE is just so much better. I have it mostly stock but with tweaks here and there some installs for a few features that integrates well KDE. It looks smart, it's well presented. There are many improvements waiting to be made of course.
Great video, you've covered its benefits, as well as its drawbacks very well. I've been using KDE since May 2018, and other than trying a couple other DEs for a short while, in the long term I've stuck to it. I've tried customizing it in many different ways, and over I've perfected the configuration for my needs on each device I have it on (basically every device that's capable of running it).
Posted 32 seconds ago ! I think Cinnamon or XFCE would be worth a shot, too. They sure aren't as customizable as Plasma, but I think they really have the right amount of options to play with, and they offer very sane defaults out of the box, especially for old Windows users.
I think KDE is really good. It's customizable, effective, smooth and have very good performance. But GNOME looks so simple and nice that i preffer it even tho i think KDE is objectively better in everything else.
I was a Gnome user until Chris Fisher (yes, of Jupiter Broadcasting fame) showed me the power of KDE... In a chat during a livestream (how I miss attending Linux shows!), but nontheless...
Well I've been using it for a year and it's awesome. Easily the best DE in all of linux land. People think xfce is light, when it's not light at all. KDE is so well optimized that it actually is light, using only as much ram as XFCE does.
As someone who tested out Linux 15-20 years ago and know how much love Gnome got over KDE, and favoring KDE personally, it's really nice to hear how far KDE has come. Maybe It's time to go back to Linux and leave Windows behind.
I tired to switch over to PopOS from windows and Gnome felt weird. The feel of gnome was good, but it lacked some polish and the way it was intended to be used clashed with my windows muscle memory. This kept me from fully transitioning to linux for a long time. After installing KDE along side PopOS's Gnome, i was suprized. KDE felt a lot like windows, but i could do so much with the interface. KDE allowed me to fully transition to Linux and i feel so much at home here. The power behind KDE is its customization. you can emulate pretty much any desktop environment out there using KDE apps. There may be limitations to how configurable it is, but i have not yet found a limit myself. The granular control it gives feels very liberating after years on windows.
KDE feels like home everytime you take the time to make it your home... While Gnome is getting a pre furnished apartment which you can't change much! I just love KDE for that and there are talks going on regarding the feature where you can even export all your settings in afile and import them in another KDE env with simple steps... Imagine seeing something like that linuxscoop video and just importing it to use it in a single click.. just amazing!
Great insights in your review and I to have officially moved from Gnome to KDE Plasma as my daily driver because of the theming and customizations. Thanks for your thoughtful feedback.
The gigantic amount of settings/configurable options was the thing that always put me of KDE. Trying to find the thing you need, for people new to the platform, is just like looking for a needle in a haystack.
This is something you can learn in a day or two ... An afterwards you will be amazed what you actually can do with your desktop and os in general. The stupid simplicity has been something that has always been turning me away from gnome desktop. And it is getting worse with every release.
I love KDE and Plasma! I run Kubuntu with Ubuntu Studio installed and it is fantastic and has most of what I need as is. I am not a big fan of Arch and it's derivatives. I prefer a Distro that makes things easy for me, but also gives me the Option to dig into the details if I want... but mostly, I just want things to work smoothly and efficiently with few hiccups. KDE and Plasma make this a dream!
I recommend to you the materia theme for both kde apps and gnome apps, also the kvantum-theme-materia (and kvantum) is needed for the buttons, the papirus icon theme is a nice pair with the materia theme.
I'd been using Debian 11 with Gnome for the last few months, but about three weeks ago did a reinstall on a machine and decided to try KDE with Deb 11. Its a keeper! Its nicely traditional but nicely modern, fast, seems quite lightweight and hasn't impacted Deb's legendary stability.
I'm totally with you on the "it's easier to add than take away". That is my major gripe with Windows and many Linux distros with regards to the bundled apps (not so much layout within, but I see your point). I used to be a fan of KDE when it was one of Linux Mint's offerings, but after they dropped it I tried many other KDE options. Being less than happy with them (Manjaro amongst them) I decided to try other front-ends and finally settled on Linux Mint's xfce offering. I did not select this because of it being lightweight, but because it feels like a consistent experience backed by the robustness the Mint team are legendary for. I do wish that the file manager was more Dolphin like and I would even consider installing the KDE stalwart, but I've read that it's flaky on anything other than KDE (because of its integration) and that's not what you want to experience from a cornerstone of the operating system.
you didn’t even show krunner, IT IS AMAZING! Alt+Space: type something like ”10 usd” > converts to other currencies “!g the linux experiment” > google search for the linux experiment in your default browser “firefox” > start firefox “xkill” > run xkill from the command line “window rules” > open the window rules settings page “34+13-(4^2)” > 31 “my-file.txt” > open that file in a text editor
Thanks! Perhaps it's time for me to take a re-look into KDE. Many many many Moons ago, I will only run KDE b/c it was more customisable until it crashes my production system a little too often. I had no choice but to use something lighter. I finally settled on xfce. Thanks again, you reminded me about my 1st love desktop of choice. Time to rekindle tt warm tingerling sensation.
I hope KDE devs can see this video and the critiques; Those negatives never bothered me but now that you mention them, I can definitely see and agree with them. That being said, I use KDE for a decade and it's what allowed me to switch from Windows to Linux, I couldn't imagine myself using any other DE.
Thank you for the review, I must say I agree with you on most accounts... At least on the style front I hope you will have even more options soon :) Yeah options is something we love to offer in KDE. And yeah some apps seem a bit old.. and some overly complex in default land.. we could/should improve that...
@@TheLinuxEXP style is done design wise but struggling way to much about the icon style. The plasma/Qt style begs for simplicity as far as icons go and that is easy, but then apps devices folders places etc I can't stand the overly simplistic bland thing... So I'm stuck there... Need to star working on code implementation, I have a working prototype in qml but needs to be made into a real theme...
I have installed KDE plasma full desktop environment alongside UBUNTU and I love it so much! it looks amazing and the customization options are nothing short of outstanding, i will still check back in with UBUNTU and the Windows 11 I am dual booting with but this is defo my new goto IDE
I've been using KDE for fiew years and every year it keeps getting better FYI KDE have full integration GDK (Gnome) apps built-in so it's like KDE-GNOME power joined together in my hand
this is exactly what happened to me, i had the memory that KDE sucks and i always avoided giving it any chance, but oncec i switched oh boy, it felt like a freaking huge upgrade in every aspect, everything is better
As always, great video. I like KDE Plasma and use it. I agree with each of your statements. It has some problems, but KDE is really growing fast. I just want to give credit to the developers. Keep going!
Software with too much configuration options is harder to maintain: it's much harder to keep good quality. Also, it's harder to use it at all. It's much better to have solid design and only really needed configuration options. This is the reason why GNOME removes some options (added back in the days when they didn't have proper vision about this DE) because of "design decision". As the end user I prefer to use software with this kind of design. Even when I don't like something, I try to get used to it. In most cases, it's fine after some time and I can focus on my work while maintainers can focus on good quality with just one design instead of multiple. KDE does not have design: it only has default configuration. That's very bad. That's the reason why the most important distros like Ubuntu and Fedora won't use KDE as default. To understand this thing you need to look at the big picture: one *defined* strong design is really needed for proper user experience: to make documentation and screenshots in app centers compatible with real desktop, to make developing app design simple like in Windows or macOS, to make the OS easy to understand for everyone. Until there is too much desktop environments with too much configuration options, the Linux OS won't be used by standard people and software developers won't develop and design software for us - it's just too hard because of design and API inconsistencies.
I've been using KDE Neon on my workstation and personal machine since years and I would say it's features and capabilities are made and great for increasing productivity, like you showed on your video. ✌🏻
How do you evaluate Discover for getting apps and system updates? I moved away from Neon/Kubuntu because of many many issues with it not being able to install updates.
@@amaralbc I didn't have any issues, except for updating icons, but I do it from settings - install new icons - find installed icons package and press update. That's for updates. For finding and installing apps I usually use terminal because in my case Doscover offers me with higher priority flatpack or snap packages and it is hard for me to find native Linux apps, which I prefer. It is not the best software center, but that's not an issue for me.
Good video. I too love KDE Plasma, I love to tweak and customize. However, Feren OS [also KDE Plasma] works way better than Manjero. Tried Manjero twice and deleted it twice. Feren is much better. It doesn't have Dolphin, but easily changed! Much quicker.
One of the things I miss about Plasma is a native blur transparent theme. Sure, the default ones do have some transparency with blur but it's nowhere near a custom theme. But then those have poor contrast with letters in some situations.
KDE has come a long way since I originally used it. When I first encounter Linux, it was around the time of Ubuntu 7 or 8. KDE back then looked cartoonish, but had some interesting desktop animations. Now, it looks more professional and polished.
my experience with kde was pretty damn amazing light weight, smooth, extremely flexible but uninstalling it gave me ptsd still have some leftovers that kde installed
Same deal, though, I sometimes miss the animations and fancy stuff haha. (The original reason sway got my attention is that it had VRR support, and I grew attached to it since)
For me, a really nice feature is the Dolphin capability of thumbnailing and previewing raw images. Makes my workflow so much easy. Also, something I usually dont like about DEs is how they manage keybindings. However, Plasma at least allows to import all the keybindings with a simple file, so in that regard is more similar to WMs. The thing that is really annoying me with Plasma is Kwin. It randomly crashes or misbehaves sometimes. I think Kwin is the finickiest part of the whole KDE Plasma environmet.
I set up my Plasma with two panels on the top and left, sort of like Unity was. The layout seems to scare people away from using my laptop when I offer it to them, so last week I made a second user on my laptop with a MacOS style (WhiteSur/Latte/Kpple). Took a few clicks and 15 minutes, and the theming is completely separate from my usual user. The ease of customization in KDE Plasma is seriously impressive!
Or you can use Latte in multiple layouts mode and you can have different panel, docks layouts in different Activities so you dont need different users at all.
Plasma has also amazing resource management. On some systems I had it consume around 400-500mb of ram. which is dangerously close to what xfce uses (of course everything vary from distro to distro) I ran it on 32bit old netbook, and it was almost always snappy. I almost consider it a ligthweight de. The lightest experience with Plasma I had on Q4OS and Debian(although I havent tried anything arch-based). Now I use KDE Neon as it cutting edge of KDE and has integrated snaps and flatpaks out of the box and all in one place in Discover software center. Super convenient.
> Breeze is rather dated They know. A renovated Breeze theme is coming. Probably with 5.22. Most of the work is done. > Apps are inconsistent I feel the same way. It seems that KDE can't keep it together with the apps. Many of them haven't been updated in ages, or are overlooked by the Visual Design Group. KMail or KOrganizer for instance. They don't even use the new Notification framework.But since GNOME apps look and feel so well on Plasma, this is only a minor concern. They definitely need to get their stuff together on the app front though. > No replacement for Audacity Well, Falkon is as much of a replacement for Firefox, as Kwave is for Audacity, and Calligra is for LibreOffice. None of the 3 are GTK applications. They just take some styling from GTK, but they use their own toolkit. Audacity is not bound to any desktop, it is equally not a GNOME app, and not a KDE app. It is not even a Linux app.It is completely platform independent. Also, KDE has been working a lot lately on proper Wayland support. Aand there is Plasma Mobile and Plasma Bigscreen.
I used GNOME for years or some variants of it. KDE never clicked with me in the past. However, last year I decided to give it a go and realized how far better it is than GNOME or its variants. So I stayed with KDE and its has been more than a year now.
The only thing I don't like about KDE is its standard theme. I hope that KDE Plasma 5, or Plasma 6, will get a major overhaul soon. Functionality is just top tier.
KDE Plasma is really great! The changes to the Breeze Theme are coming, slow and steady, all changes should land on Plasma 5.23! The apps problem is true but I'm seeing more and more Qt apps being created, like Haruna and some smaller projects, Plasma (and KDE as a whole) is getting way more attention recently, that could change the amount of apps made for it as well, but on the bright side cross-platform apps generally look more consistent on Plasma, and even some GTK apps look better on Plasma! One thing i think is great on KDE as well is that it feels way more welcoming to contributions and ideas! Great video as always, Nick! :)
KDE is awesome and very powerful. Teenage me would have loved it, but its not for adult me. These days I really don't care that much about customization. Its a bit to much for me, and I also had issues. Crashes (although elegant recovery), screen tearing and general buggy-ness when running something in full screen.
I've used KDE for years, modded the sh*t out of it, but no matter what after some weeks I always felt the need to restart from scratch, because (as you said) there's no consistency at all... After switching to gnome, I think the only thing I miss is a simple way to run okular (let's face it, it's the only really good PDF reader for linux), and I also think that plasma is too much distracting and for guys who just like to experiment with their computers, not doing real work with it...
I agree with your thoughts about KDE apps. Dolphin and Kate are what every KDE app should be but most other apps are over-complicated and over-all just not worth using. Things are changing though, there are a lot of pleasant Kirigami-based applications coming now like NeoChat, KClock, etc. Then there's the Maui apps like Index, Buho, vvave, etc. KDE is getting better everyday and I love it. The theme being too bland will hopefully soon be solved once Breeze Evolution is complete. Btw, I work on and/or contribute to 3rd party GNOME apps like Dialect, Wordbook, Komikku, etc but I use Plasma while making them. I think it's easy to feel comfortable using GNOME apps in Plasma but not the other way around. So I'd rather build for a Linux-only platform (GNOME) than a cross-platform one (KDE). But even in my Plasma setup, I use Foliate, NewsFlash, Komikku, Authenticator, etc (all GNOME apps) and it all works fine, so why not?
Great analysis, my experience with KDE matches yours. Great configurability but the heavy workload with the constant tweaking and trying to find an obscure setting is exasperating
I have started to use KDE on my Raspberry Pi 4 B with Raspbian Lite, and it actually works under the 32-bit mode. Just make sure to turn the desktop effects off, and you'll be fine. I've also reset my Debian 11 installation with KDE as well.
I must admit I'm swithering between Cinnamon on Mint, and KDE on Kubuntu. Sometimes I find the lack of customisability on Cinnamon, a little frustrating, other times I find KDE a bit too overwhelming! However I've found recent versions of Cinnamon (on Mint 20), somewhat sluggish compared to earlier versions on Mint 19.
@@Xtrems based on the provided features and panels/widgets that are used for a layout usage of 120-500Mbyte is considered valid. Any usage above 800Mbyte needs investigation. Of course memory usage, cpu etc is a constant goal to improve but I dont have the expertise. As Latte is an open source project everyone can help and take part. Unfortunately I am the single person developing Latte for the last four years.
KDE has always been super customisable, some people even complain about the overwhelming options presented when you pick options. Myself I look learned to live with most defaults on every system, because very often I have to find my way around other people's boxes, so relying on customisation is something I gave up after going from Apollo's Domain to Sun's BSD4 based SunOS. Actually KDE theme ought decide the look of apps, that's the whole point of an integrated desktop. Saying Kmail doesn't fit might be due to past over customisation, like many I stopped using mail readers after switching to Gmail. KDE has always been surprisingly efficient, so long as the box has enough memory. I ran plasma on the then KDE4 on a dual CeleronA 300Mhz box, finding it acceptable, while Firefox would crawl. At the time, KDE file manager handled HTML pages as well as ftp and many of us were upset when it was dropped in favour of Dolphin, which was clunky typical fm, rather than the efficient deceptively powerful but unique KDE one. An example of better being worse because it didn't fit casual users expectations.
AMEN on that being easier to ADD apps rather than try to REMOVE ones you don't need-- (and screw up dependencies, etc.)... I usually download the MININAL versions just for this purpose- on those distros that offer that.. because I CAN just ADD what I want.. works MUCH better..
That was a great video about your experience Nick 👌🏻. I "life" in gnome since about 2 months again, i still have no complains, well I use pop OS, that's a bit different than the vanilla gnome on debian or something comparable i suppose 😅👌🏻
Good video, some of kde's program really do need to simplify their default interface a little so they aren't so daunting to new users. My biggest issue with gtk programs, particularly the ones that use CSD, is integration. Programs with CSD don't (or at least normally don't) export a menubar through dbus, which means a globalmenu setup won't work with said programs, and something like plasma-hud, which lets you search for any item in the menu bar, won't work either. I also used a script to generate a per-program title bar color, and my top panel changes to match the title bar color of the active window, but because CSD programs draw their own decoration the color scheme doesn't get applied to them. This makes CSD programs look like the odd duck in my setup.
Dolphin has incredible things, like kservices that let you extend the creation of previews (i've programmed mine to show STL and SKP previews) or the ability to change the icons of the folders to show a poster of the movie inside. I even added a special action to paste the content of the clipboard as a file ─which Dolphin already has─, so the images copied from the web have their name, comment and source added as an EXIF information.
Everything mentioned above all customization is what seduces me the most about (K)DE and that is why I use it almost always, when I step on another DE I feel that my hands have been cut off from all sides in terms of personalization / productivity, while what I hate the most is that its windows environment is not as solid as Gnome. Plasma usually has some annoying bugs at the interface level and the worst thing is that many (popular) apps open and save their files with the Gnome Files explorer, instead from Dolphin and also sometimes the windows are not fully integrated, like Timeshift that does not respect the dark mode ...
I am thinking about standardizing all of our desktop/laptop machines on KDE. (Currently Linux Mint Cinnamon + Kubuntu + ChromeOS). It is just so powerful. Fun fact: KDE Connect is a way more powerful Android integrator than its counterpart in ChromeOS. One would think that Google products integrate better than what some OSS product provides.
KDE is nice and I’m glad it exists for the people who enjoy it, but I’m a Gnome guy and always will be. I want a system that works perfectly out of the box and I can tweak the aesthetics more than something that works okay out of the box and I need to tweak it to make it work for me.
Besides an odd kwin bug I sometimes have(restarting kwin fixes it) kde is almost perfect. I also just love some of the applications specifically okular and dolphin.
Hey Nick, about the todo-list and task management application, actually there is one specifically made by the kde team and which is part of the Kontact suite : Zanshin (and d'you see that? No K in the name :P) It's complete, featurefull, and is perfect for syncing your nextcloud tasks with your desktop.
KDE is the absolute best, however the biggest issue for me always has been too many settings. Things are just..complicated. They dont "just work". If I install a new KDE Neon image, it takes like 6 hours to get things into place. It does everything better than every other desktop environment..when configured. And thats what keeps me away from KDE, that's why I can't wait for Elementary OS 6.
for sysadmins, or developers who use vagrant, you can edit KDE settings including cosmetics from the command line. It's not the easiest thing to use, especially because they sometimes change how things work, but it gets the job done.
The worst thing about the fact that the KDE system settings are still so unintuitive is that this is supposed to be the “new and improved” version as of 5.21. And it actually is. A few things will be better when 5.22 comes out, but it’s still very “KDE” in how things are arranged and named. Very over-complicated with settings that belong together separated into different oddly named modules.
I used to use KDE many years ago. My only problem is the windows like behavior, I mean the OK, cancel, and apply buttons are exist. Is it possible to turn it on gnome like behavior?
I hated kde until I finally learned how to use it-- now I LOVE kde--- and if you get MX LINUX 21-- you also have SNAPSHOT and LIVE USB maker that let you design your own- configure it any way you like- and turn it into an ISO that you can burn on a USB drive and take any where you want- or use it for rebooting backup if something goes wonky on your computer... Wish I could learn how to use the tools on OTHER distros too..
I love KDE Plasma, it's my absolute favorite Desktop Environment, GNU/Linux + KDE Plasma ≈ Million times better than Windows or MacOS in regards to everything especially productivity, cause you can customize it to your exact needs quiet easily. (except the partial absence of some proprietary shit apps on Linux, which some people might want to use). It can behave and look like Mac + much better, like Windows + better, like almost any other Linux Desktop Environment. I just love it and 'll continue funding it whenever I have money left.
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I'm quite new to Linux, as of now I'm currently using pop_os, I'd like to know if while using kdm will tweaks an extensions still work an flatpaks, specifically I need something like vitals to monitor my Temps and greewithenvy an nvidia x server settings for my gpu can I still be able to do that with kdm
For me the great thing about KDE is how customizable it is, the bad thing about KDE is how customizable it is.
All the options feel overwhelming.
I totally understand! Dolphin was like that for me at first. hated it because of all the hidden options, but began to appreciate it after learning a bit more and adding shortcuts to stuff i find use of. I guess thats the best way to use KDE. Explore, set and forget.
@@duser lol this comment could have come from a tiling WM user as well.
Exactly, kde developers don't value importance of a setting. Such an approach ruins everything, even if there are aspects where plasma thrive.
@@dand337 what do you mean with that?
@@alexweissnicht9545 That overly customizable desktop is also a bad thing.
Even if in fact kde was not to hard to navigate, the amount of options, little tweaks is just overwhelming. Macs, gnome, deepin have proven that focus on the out of the box experience and including only essential options is just better.
The perfect comparison would be new and old Windows 10 file manager. The best tool is dead simple/minimalistic on the outside, but also more and more powerful as you start exploring it.
KDE gives me an impression of a pile of stacked garbage
KDE, even by default, is so complete I cannot think about another desktop environment. It's so ready to use even for people that don't want to customize anything.
I love the desktop, too, but small quibble, it's not called KDE anymore. That's the organization behind it. It's called Plasma now or KDE Plasma if you like. :)
@@user-th5mp1cv3h Sort of. It's like having a Chevrolet Cavalier and saying you have a GM. KDE is the organisation that makes the Plasma desktop. Plasma is the desktop environment. The KDE organization makes it. Back when it was used, nobody called the Unity desktop Canonical.
The best part of KDE is its customization. Another awesome thing about KDE is that it hardly ever breaks (customizations) when you upgrade KDE.
...oooh "hardly ever" sounds so good! 😁
I don't agree with that. When upgraded from Ubuntu 21 to 22 the whole thing broke.
i've been doing this challenge for over a year
Yep since ubuntu released 20.04.
@@karanvora2674 is ubuntu 20.04 that bad?
@@siontheodorus1501 kde is a desktop environment. You'll still need a distro. I'm using Ubuntu
7 years for me.
@@siontheodorus1501 i liked 18.04 better. And of course I mean Kubuntu.
07:00 Is a perfect point - it's easier to let advanced users add things than overwhelm the casuals and have THEM remove the stuff they don't use. You put it perfectly and I hope plasma devs take it to heart.
Gosh I feel like I'm repeating myself too much but I can't keep gushing about how well you communicated such an important criticism. Great work Nick.
Cheer up then! They're aware of this and have been putting a lot of effort into it recently, especially as part of Breeze Evolution and their common goal of consistency.
Thank you very much :)
I disagree, to an extent. I think it's easier to have all the features built-in, but have features that are not commonly used turned off by default. Then, let advanced users or novice user who need a certain feature, turn on the features they need. We certainly don't want to turn KDE Plasma into GNOME where users are forced to add buggy and unsupported plugins to an application (or the desktop) just to make it useful. That stuff should be built-in.
Easier said that done. It's probably not even possible.
KDE is the reason why I use Linux. I was able to build my own workflow thanks to the big number of customizations it allows! Nice video!
Welcome to the light, brother. lol
To me, KDE is, hands down, the best DE out there. KDE connect is even better than apple's airdrop or whatever they call it.
I use iphone, they still dont have support for that
@@arizapathan613 And I don't think they'll ever be able to. Apple's ecosystem is locked down very tightly to work only with other Apple's products. Have you tried installing Linux on a newer MacBook? 2016 and newer are a nightmare. My fault, I should've specified that kde connect works well for Android.
@@MyReviews_karkan
It has nothing to do with „locked down“ if just nobody was interested yet to write an app for it. Just a case of supply and demand.
@@mrcvry There's just little incentive to. Given it isn't possible to implement the whole feature set KDEConnect offers on an iOS device.
Perhaps Nextcloud could be an alternative. I am not using the KDE (yet) and have not seen connect.
Honestly the first time i looked at KDE Plasma's settings panel i said WTF and after 5 minutes i realised it has tooo much power inside it i was overwhelmed in a good way :))
Yeah once you go past that first impression, it’s really amazing!
In addition to the immense amount of customization, KDE is incredibly fast, powerful and smooth which is something extraordinary. Other desktop environments that don't even offer half the power that Plasma does, but yet they're choppy and somehow heavier on system resources.
This ambitious project never fails to pleasantly surprise me.
It's definitely not fast atleast not on my laptop. It crashes multiple times. Very long boot times. But love it's customizability.
It definitely takes some time to boot but it is pretty snappy
can't remember his name, but a few days ago, a KDE developer was reviewing gnome 40 and he said that it's important for KDE developers to make gtk based apps work alright in plasma.
Yeah they did well!
For now libadwaita gtk4 apps may have blurry fonts when being run under Plasma. Also not themeable.
Excellent review! All praise and criticisms are spot on, you show where Plasma really shines and where it really could use improvement. You're fair and balanced, and show real depth of knowledge using KDE Plasma which is sorely lacking in some reviews I've seen. Great stuff!
As usual, an upload with a genuine review of KDE with great points made. Many Thanks.
Thank you :)
KDE Plasma - keeping the desktop sane :)
Changed over from years of Ubuntu to Kubuntu 21.04. KDE is just so much better. I have it mostly stock but with tweaks here and there some installs for a few features that integrates well KDE. It looks smart, it's well presented. There are many improvements waiting to be made of course.
Great video, you've covered its benefits, as well as its drawbacks very well.
I've been using KDE since May 2018, and other than trying a couple other DEs for a short while, in the long term I've stuck to it. I've tried customizing it in many different ways, and over I've perfected the configuration for my needs on each device I have it on (basically every device that's capable of running it).
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I think Cinnamon or XFCE would be worth a shot, too. They sure aren't as customizable as Plasma, but I think they really have the right amount of options to play with, and they offer very sane defaults out of the box, especially for old Windows users.
Finally someone who isn't shy about customizing the desktop :D This and the amount of functionality in bundled apps is where KDE really shines.
I think KDE is really good. It's customizable, effective, smooth and have very good performance. But GNOME looks so simple and nice that i preffer it even tho i think KDE is objectively better in everything else.
I love KDE! And great videos as always!
Thanks :)
Only a frenchman can make such a comprehensive video - facts facts facts.
I was a Gnome user until Chris Fisher (yes, of Jupiter Broadcasting fame) showed me the power of KDE... In a chat during a livestream (how I miss attending Linux shows!), but nontheless...
A happy user of KDE. I don't know how they manage to read my mind and deliver exactly what I was looking for....
Well I've been using it for a year and it's awesome. Easily the best DE in all of linux land. People think xfce is light, when it's not light at all. KDE is so well optimized that it actually is light, using only as much ram as XFCE does.
Ah! He finally did it!
Do try more customization, I've made mine look like MacOS haha
Mine kinda looks like it as well :)
I combine ubuntu gnome, macOS, and windows look into my KDE setup, and I love it.
As someone who tested out Linux 15-20 years ago and know how much love Gnome got over KDE, and favoring KDE personally, it's really nice to hear how far KDE has come. Maybe It's time to go back to Linux and leave Windows behind.
Would you entrust mission-critical business operations to an OS that can only handle 26 drive letters?
I really really like the lamp and dodge animation in kde.
I share your criticism
I tired to switch over to PopOS from windows and Gnome felt weird. The feel of gnome was good, but it lacked some polish and the way it was intended to be used clashed with my windows muscle memory. This kept me from fully transitioning to linux for a long time. After installing KDE along side PopOS's Gnome, i was suprized. KDE felt a lot like windows, but i could do so much with the interface. KDE allowed me to fully transition to Linux and i feel so much at home here.
The power behind KDE is its customization. you can emulate pretty much any desktop environment out there using KDE apps. There may be limitations to how configurable it is, but i have not yet found a limit myself. The granular control it gives feels very liberating after years on windows.
KDE feels like home everytime you take the time to make it your home...
While Gnome is getting a pre furnished apartment which you can't change much!
I just love KDE for that and there are talks going on regarding the feature where you can even export all your settings in afile and import them in another KDE env with simple steps...
Imagine seeing something like that linuxscoop video and just importing it to use it in a single click.. just amazing!
Good comparison!
Great video! I struggle with KDE due to its inconsistency and messy interfaces. I will keep trying it every year or so to see what’s happening though!
Great insights in your review and I to have officially moved from Gnome to KDE Plasma as my daily driver because of the theming and customizations. Thanks for your thoughtful feedback.
The gigantic amount of settings/configurable options was the thing that always put me of KDE. Trying to find the thing you need, for people new to the platform, is just like looking for a needle in a haystack.
This is something you can learn in a day or two ... An afterwards you will be amazed what you actually can do with your desktop and os in general. The stupid simplicity has been something that has always been turning me away from gnome desktop. And it is getting worse with every release.
Not using gnome either, because that is the extreme opposite of what KDE is, which also isn't good! XFCE for me...
Not also powerful and with lots of customization, but still can be lightweight. I love that!
I love KDE and Plasma!
I run Kubuntu with Ubuntu Studio installed and it is fantastic and has most of what I need as is. I am not a big fan of Arch and it's derivatives. I prefer a Distro that makes things easy for me, but also gives me the Option to dig into the details if I want... but mostly, I just want things to work smoothly and efficiently with few hiccups. KDE and Plasma make this a dream!
one of best linux review i seeing...i have using kde for years and continue to using it as daily driver.
Been using it as my laptop's daily driver for a while now and love KDE. Love using KDE Connect as well it just works great.
Thanks for this great review!
You’re welcome :)
I recommend to you the materia theme for both kde apps and gnome apps, also the kvantum-theme-materia (and kvantum) is needed for the buttons, the papirus icon theme is a nice pair with the materia theme.
I'd been using Debian 11 with Gnome for the last few months, but about three weeks ago did a reinstall on a machine and decided to try KDE with Deb 11. Its a keeper! Its nicely traditional but nicely modern, fast, seems quite lightweight and hasn't impacted Deb's legendary stability.
I always end up installing KDE on my Linux Mint install. I LOOOOVE KDE so much. It's so customizable and fun to use.
I'm totally with you on the "it's easier to add than take away". That is my major gripe with Windows and many Linux distros with regards to the bundled apps (not so much layout within, but I see your point).
I used to be a fan of KDE when it was one of Linux Mint's offerings, but after they dropped it I tried many other KDE options. Being less than happy with them (Manjaro amongst them) I decided to try other front-ends and finally settled on Linux Mint's xfce offering. I did not select this because of it being lightweight, but because it feels like a consistent experience backed by the robustness the Mint team are legendary for. I do wish that the file manager was more Dolphin like and I would even consider installing the KDE stalwart, but I've read that it's flaky on anything other than KDE (because of its integration) and that's not what you want to experience from a cornerstone of the operating system.
Also, for more UI consistency, install the "gtk3-nocsd" package. It splits the new GTK headerbar into the traditional titlebar + toolbar layout.
Thank you very much! It doesn't work with new Gnome apps but at least it works with some other non-Gnome Apps. That is great!
you didn’t even show krunner, IT IS AMAZING!
Alt+Space:
type something like ”10 usd” > converts to other currencies
“!g the linux experiment” > google search for the linux experiment in your default browser
“firefox” > start firefox
“xkill” > run xkill from the command line
“window rules” > open the window rules settings page
“34+13-(4^2)” > 31
“my-file.txt” > open that file in a text editor
If only KDE would allow for multi monitor scaling.... but no. Let's allow the notification count customization!
Thanks! Perhaps it's time for me to take a re-look into KDE.
Many many many Moons ago, I will only run KDE b/c it was more customisable until it crashes my production system a little too often. I had no choice but to use something lighter. I finally settled on xfce.
Thanks again, you reminded me about my 1st love desktop of choice. Time to rekindle tt warm tingerling sensation.
I hope KDE devs can see this video and the critiques; Those negatives never bothered me but now that you mention them, I can definitely see and agree with them. That being said, I use KDE for a decade and it's what allowed me to switch from Windows to Linux, I couldn't imagine myself using any other DE.
Thank you for the review, I must say I agree with you on most accounts...
At least on the style front I hope you will have even more options soon :)
Yeah options is something we love to offer in KDE.
And yeah some apps seem a bit old.. and some overly complex in default land.. we could/should improve that...
Hi Nuno! Yeah I’m expecting the new oxygen with very little patience hahaha
How has it been going?
@@TheLinuxEXP style is done design wise but struggling way to much about the icon style. The plasma/Qt style begs for simplicity as far as icons go and that is easy, but then apps devices folders places etc I can't stand the overly simplistic bland thing... So I'm stuck there... Need to star working on code implementation, I have a working prototype in qml but needs to be made into a real theme...
I have installed KDE plasma full desktop environment alongside UBUNTU and I love it so much! it looks amazing and the customization options are nothing short of outstanding, i will still check back in with UBUNTU and the Windows 11 I am dual booting with but this is defo my new goto IDE
Simplicity of Gnome 40 is where its at...
I've been using KDE for fiew years and every year it keeps getting better
FYI KDE have full integration GDK (Gnome) apps built-in so it's like KDE-GNOME power joined together in my hand
this is exactly what happened to me, i had the memory that KDE sucks and i always avoided giving it any chance, but oncec i switched oh boy, it felt like a freaking huge upgrade in every aspect, everything is better
As always, great video. I like KDE Plasma and use it. I agree with each of your statements. It has some problems, but KDE is really growing fast.
I just want to give credit to the developers. Keep going!
Yeah they’re doing a great job!
I really agree about finding setting, its just a hassle for a system that relies so much on customization
Software with too much configuration options is harder to maintain: it's much harder to keep good quality. Also, it's harder to use it at all. It's much better to have solid design and only really needed configuration options. This is the reason why GNOME removes some options (added back in the days when they didn't have proper vision about this DE) because of "design decision". As the end user I prefer to use software with this kind of design. Even when I don't like something, I try to get used to it. In most cases, it's fine after some time and I can focus on my work while maintainers can focus on good quality with just one design instead of multiple. KDE does not have design: it only has default configuration. That's very bad. That's the reason why the most important distros like Ubuntu and Fedora won't use KDE as default. To understand this thing you need to look at the big picture: one *defined* strong design is really needed for proper user experience: to make documentation and screenshots in app centers compatible with real desktop, to make developing app design simple like in Windows or macOS, to make the OS easy to understand for everyone. Until there is too much desktop environments with too much configuration options, the Linux OS won't be used by standard people and software developers won't develop and design software for us - it's just too hard because of design and API inconsistencies.
I've been using KDE Neon on my workstation and personal machine since years and I would say it's features and capabilities are made and great for increasing productivity, like you showed on your video. ✌🏻
How do you evaluate Discover for getting apps and system updates? I moved away from Neon/Kubuntu because of many many issues with it not being able to install updates.
@@amaralbc I didn't have any issues, except for updating icons, but I do it from settings - install new icons - find installed icons package and press update. That's for updates. For finding and installing apps I usually use terminal because in my case Doscover offers me with higher priority flatpack or snap packages and it is hard for me to find native Linux apps, which I prefer. It is not the best software center, but that's not an issue for me.
Good video. I too love KDE Plasma, I love to tweak and customize. However, Feren OS [also KDE Plasma] works way better than Manjero. Tried Manjero twice and deleted it twice. Feren is much better. It doesn't have Dolphin, but easily changed! Much quicker.
One of the things I miss about Plasma is a native blur transparent theme. Sure, the default ones do have some transparency with blur but it's nowhere near a custom theme. But then those have poor contrast with letters in some situations.
KDE has come a long way since I originally used it. When I first encounter Linux, it was around the time of Ubuntu 7 or 8. KDE back then looked cartoonish, but had some interesting desktop animations. Now, it looks more professional and polished.
my experience with kde was pretty damn amazing light weight, smooth, extremely flexible but uninstalling it gave me ptsd still have some leftovers that kde installed
Plasma just keeps getting better and better. Sway has thoroughly swept me away though.
Same deal, though, I sometimes miss the animations and fancy stuff haha.
(The original reason sway got my attention is that it had VRR support, and I grew attached to it since)
KDE is the distro hopping killer :- D
For me, a really nice feature is the Dolphin capability of thumbnailing and previewing raw images. Makes my workflow so much easy.
Also, something I usually dont like about DEs is how they manage keybindings. However, Plasma at least allows to import all the keybindings with a simple file, so in that regard is more similar to WMs.
The thing that is really annoying me with Plasma is Kwin. It randomly crashes or misbehaves sometimes. I think Kwin is the finickiest part of the whole KDE Plasma environmet.
I set up my Plasma with two panels on the top and left, sort of like Unity was. The layout seems to scare people away from using my laptop when I offer it to them, so last week I made a second user on my laptop with a MacOS style (WhiteSur/Latte/Kpple). Took a few clicks and 15 minutes, and the theming is completely separate from my usual user. The ease of customization in KDE Plasma is seriously impressive!
Or you can use Latte in multiple layouts mode and you can have different panel, docks layouts in different Activities so you dont need different users at all.
Plasma has also amazing resource management. On some systems I had it consume around 400-500mb of ram. which is dangerously close to what xfce uses (of course everything vary from distro to distro)
I ran it on 32bit old netbook, and it was almost always snappy.
I almost consider it a ligthweight de.
The lightest experience with Plasma I had on Q4OS and Debian(although I havent tried anything arch-based). Now I use KDE Neon as it cutting edge of KDE and has integrated snaps and flatpaks out of the box and all in one place in Discover software center. Super convenient.
> Breeze is rather dated
They know. A renovated Breeze theme is coming. Probably with 5.22. Most of the work is done.
> Apps are inconsistent
I feel the same way. It seems that KDE can't keep it together with the apps. Many of them haven't been updated in ages, or are overlooked by the Visual Design Group. KMail or KOrganizer for instance. They don't even use the new Notification framework.But since GNOME apps look and feel so well on Plasma, this is only a minor concern. They definitely need to get their stuff together on the app front though.
> No replacement for Audacity
Well, Falkon is as much of a replacement for Firefox, as Kwave is for Audacity, and Calligra is for LibreOffice. None of the 3 are GTK applications. They just take some styling from GTK, but they use their own toolkit. Audacity is not bound to any desktop, it is equally not a GNOME app, and not a KDE app. It is not even a Linux app.It is completely platform independent.
Also, KDE has been working a lot lately on proper Wayland support. Aand there is Plasma Mobile and Plasma Bigscreen.
I used GNOME for years or some variants of it. KDE never clicked with me in the past. However, last year I decided to give it a go and realized how far better it is than GNOME or its variants. So I stayed with KDE and its has been more than a year now.
The only thing I don't like about KDE is its standard theme. I hope that KDE Plasma 5, or Plasma 6, will get a major overhaul soon. Functionality is just top tier.
KDE Plasma is really great! The changes to the Breeze Theme are coming, slow and steady, all changes should land on Plasma 5.23!
The apps problem is true but I'm seeing more and more Qt apps being created, like Haruna and some smaller projects, Plasma (and KDE as a whole) is getting way more attention recently, that could change the amount of apps made for it as well, but on the bright side cross-platform apps generally look more consistent on Plasma, and even some GTK apps look better on Plasma!
One thing i think is great on KDE as well is that it feels way more welcoming to contributions and ideas!
Great video as always, Nick! :)
Thank you :)
Nice video, I am using Redcore Linux KDE Plasma from release...
KDE is awesome and very powerful. Teenage me would have loved it, but its not for adult me. These days I really don't care that much about customization. Its a bit to much for me, and I also had issues. Crashes (although elegant recovery), screen tearing and general buggy-ness when running something in full screen.
I've used KDE for years, modded the sh*t out of it, but no matter what after some weeks I always felt the need to restart from scratch, because (as you said) there's no consistency at all... After switching to gnome, I think the only thing I miss is a simple way to run okular (let's face it, it's the only really good PDF reader for linux), and I also think that plasma is too much distracting and for guys who just like to experiment with their computers, not doing real work with it...
I agree with your thoughts about KDE apps. Dolphin and Kate are what every KDE app should be but most other apps are over-complicated and over-all just not worth using. Things are changing though, there are a lot of pleasant Kirigami-based applications coming now like NeoChat, KClock, etc. Then there's the Maui apps like Index, Buho, vvave, etc. KDE is getting better everyday and I love it.
The theme being too bland will hopefully soon be solved once Breeze Evolution is complete. Btw, I work on and/or contribute to 3rd party GNOME apps like Dialect, Wordbook, Komikku, etc but I use Plasma while making them. I think it's easy to feel comfortable using GNOME apps in Plasma but not the other way around. So I'd rather build for a Linux-only platform (GNOME) than a cross-platform one (KDE). But even in my Plasma setup, I use Foliate, NewsFlash, Komikku, Authenticator, etc (all GNOME apps) and it all works fine, so why not?
Can’t wait for more « modern looking » apps to be available, or even made default :)
Great analysis, my experience with KDE matches yours. Great configurability but the heavy workload with the constant tweaking and trying to find an obscure setting is exasperating
I have started to use KDE on my Raspberry Pi 4 B with Raspbian Lite, and it actually works under the 32-bit mode. Just make sure to turn the desktop effects off, and you'll be fine. I've also reset my Debian 11 installation with KDE as well.
I must admit I'm swithering between Cinnamon on Mint, and KDE on Kubuntu. Sometimes I find the lack of customisability on Cinnamon, a little frustrating, other times I find KDE a bit too overwhelming! However I've found recent versions of Cinnamon (on Mint 20), somewhat sluggish compared to earlier versions on Mint 19.
Can you please share your experience with Latte? any issues/drawbacks?
I haven’t really encountered many issues with it, no!
My issue is that it takes way too much RAM for basically a custom panel
@@Xtrems based on the provided features and panels/widgets that are used for a layout usage of 120-500Mbyte is considered valid. Any usage above 800Mbyte needs investigation. Of course memory usage, cpu etc is a constant goal to improve but I dont have the expertise. As Latte is an open source project everyone can help and take part. Unfortunately I am the single person developing Latte for the last four years.
@@psifidotos4798 Thanks for your work on Latte dock. Sadly, I am not a programmer.
2:26 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
“It’s a better experience to add features than trying to remove them.” pure gold
I like your setup, I've been experimenting with twm.
KDE has always been super customisable, some people even complain about the overwhelming options presented when you pick options.
Myself I look learned to live with most defaults on every system, because very often I have to find my way around other people's boxes, so relying on customisation is something I gave up after going from Apollo's Domain to Sun's BSD4 based SunOS.
Actually KDE theme ought decide the look of apps, that's the whole point of an integrated desktop. Saying Kmail doesn't fit might be due to past over customisation, like many I stopped using mail readers after switching to Gmail.
KDE has always been surprisingly efficient, so long as the box has enough memory. I ran plasma on the then KDE4 on a dual CeleronA 300Mhz box, finding it acceptable, while Firefox would crawl.
At the time, KDE file manager handled HTML pages as well as ftp and many of us were upset when it was dropped in favour of Dolphin, which was clunky typical fm, rather than the efficient deceptively powerful but unique KDE one. An example of better being worse because it didn't fit casual users expectations.
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Thank you :)
AMEN on that being easier to ADD apps rather than try to REMOVE ones you don't need-- (and screw up dependencies, etc.)... I usually download the MININAL versions just for this purpose- on those distros that offer that.. because I CAN just ADD what I want.. works MUCH better..
If there was an overview/desktop switcher like Gnome's, I'd say Plasma would be even cooler to use
The Parachute KWin script offers the functionality you're looking for but its not really smooth compared to gnome 40.
That was a great video about your experience Nick 👌🏻. I "life" in gnome since about 2 months again, i still have no complains, well I use pop OS, that's a bit different than the vanilla gnome on debian or something comparable i suppose 😅👌🏻
I will do others with GNOME and other DEs as well :)
Good video, some of kde's program really do need to simplify their default interface a little so they aren't so daunting to new users.
My biggest issue with gtk programs, particularly the ones that use CSD, is integration. Programs with CSD don't (or at least normally don't) export a menubar through dbus, which means a globalmenu setup won't work with said programs, and something like plasma-hud, which lets you search for any item in the menu bar, won't work either.
I also used a script to generate a per-program title bar color, and my top panel changes to match the title bar color of the active window, but because CSD programs draw their own decoration the color scheme doesn't get applied to them.
This makes CSD programs look like the odd duck in my setup.
They really need to add a setting for mouse wheel scroll speed
Hey Nick, how KDE deals with multitouch gestures? Did you tried to use it? Nice video, btw.
libinput-gestures
Dolphin has incredible things, like kservices that let you extend the creation of previews (i've programmed mine to show STL and SKP previews) or the ability to change the icons of the folders to show a poster of the movie inside. I even added a special action to paste the content of the clipboard as a file ─which Dolphin already has─, so the images copied from the web have their name, comment and source added as an EXIF information.
Everything mentioned above all customization is what seduces me the most about (K)DE and that is why I use it almost always, when I step on another DE I feel that my hands have been cut off from all sides in terms of personalization / productivity, while what I hate the most is that its windows environment is not as solid as Gnome. Plasma usually has some annoying bugs at the interface level and the worst thing is that many (popular) apps open and save their files with the Gnome Files explorer, instead from Dolphin and also sometimes the windows are not fully integrated, like Timeshift that does not respect the dark mode ...
I am thinking about standardizing all of our desktop/laptop machines on KDE. (Currently Linux Mint Cinnamon + Kubuntu + ChromeOS). It is just so powerful.
Fun fact: KDE Connect is a way more powerful Android integrator than its counterpart in ChromeOS. One would think that Google products integrate better than what some OSS product provides.
KDE Connect is incredible!
KDE is nice and I’m glad it exists for the people who enjoy it, but I’m a Gnome guy and always will be. I want a system that works perfectly out of the box and I can tweak the aesthetics more than something that works okay out of the box and I need to tweak it to make it work for me.
Besides an odd kwin bug I sometimes have(restarting kwin fixes it) kde is almost perfect. I also just love some of the applications specifically okular and dolphin.
Hey Nick, about the todo-list and task management application, actually there is one specifically made by the kde team and which is part of the Kontact suite : Zanshin (and d'you see that? No K in the name :P)
It's complete, featurefull, and is perfect for syncing your nextcloud tasks with your desktop.
I’ll take a look, thanks a lot :)
KDE is the absolute best, however the biggest issue for me always has been too many settings. Things are just..complicated. They dont "just work". If I install a new KDE Neon image, it takes like 6 hours to get things into place. It does everything better than every other desktop environment..when configured. And thats what keeps me away from KDE, that's why I can't wait for Elementary OS 6.
The only issue I have when using KDE is I can't stop customizing that I need to move to a DE with no customization out of the box 😂
Hahaha yeah it can be super addictive
U should try vim too.
Elementary OS might be your way.
@@harshvermac5 yeah I used Elementary OS for 3 months but I recently switched to Solus Gnome. It's stable, less distractive and updated.
for sysadmins, or developers who use vagrant, you can edit KDE settings including cosmetics from the command line. It's not the easiest thing to use, especially because they sometimes change how things work, but it gets the job done.
The worst thing about the fact that the KDE system settings are still so unintuitive is that this is supposed to be the “new and improved” version as of 5.21. And it actually is. A few things will be better when 5.22 comes out, but it’s still very “KDE” in how things are arranged and named. Very over-complicated with settings that belong together separated into different oddly named modules.
I used to use KDE many years ago. My only problem is the windows like behavior, I mean the OK, cancel, and apply buttons are exist. Is it possible to turn it on gnome like behavior?
I hated kde until I finally learned how to use it-- now I LOVE kde--- and if you get MX LINUX 21-- you also have SNAPSHOT and LIVE USB maker that let you design your own- configure it any way you like- and turn it into an ISO that you can burn on a USB drive and take any where you want- or use it for rebooting backup if something goes wonky on your computer... Wish I could learn how to use the tools on OTHER distros too..
I love KDE Plasma, it's my absolute favorite Desktop Environment,
GNU/Linux + KDE Plasma ≈ Million times better than Windows or MacOS in regards to everything especially productivity, cause you can customize it to your exact needs quiet easily.
(except the partial absence of some proprietary shit apps on Linux, which some people might want to use).
It can behave and look like Mac + much better, like Windows + better, like almost any other Linux Desktop Environment.
I just love it and 'll continue funding it whenever I have money left.