As an extra tip with keeper, I would like to say that he, along with Maggie, is one of the best users of the sacrifice rooms since when he sacrifices himself, coins can spawn and he heals very easily.
Two things I would add regarding Apollyon: 1.) Void can nullify curse of the blind. When a blind item is picked up & revealed you have like 1.5 seconds to decide if you want to void the item. 2.) You mention it’s not good to void active items if their charge bar is < 6, fair point, but you didn’t mention that active items with a charge bar of > 6 are reduced to only 6 whenever you void them. One run I void-ed a mega mush (12 charge bar) and it basically broke the game b/c I could easily refill the 6 charges with each use of the item, so I had unlimited mega mush for the rest of the run.
I dont know how many people will get this reference. But youre like the Otzdarva of the Binding of Issac community. Youre out here giving us all this good information like a GOAT
For lost/t lost, I also recommend switching in and out of alt floor. Boss challenge room only generated on the 2 floor of each chapter, so going b1->b2->downpour 2->c2->mines 2 will allow you to grab extra boss items.
extra tip for tainted apollyon: You can abyss an item while it is in the little "holding the item above head" animation. That makes trash shop items insanely good, especially if they are 7 or 10 cents
Tainted lost's passive doesn't quite work like that. Yes it has a chance to roll lower quality items, but the main thing is that anything that's related to hp (breakfast or razor blade for exemple) or is a defensive item (most respawns, holy mantle, etc) just can't spawn at all Another little trick with him is to prioritize the even floors. What I mean is this, each chapter in the game has two floors (or xl but doesn't matter here). Boss trap rooms, the challenge rooms with a boss item inside, can only spawn in the second floor of each chapter. One can take advantage of that by intercalating normal and alternate floors, so basically: basement 1 -> basement 2 -> downpour 2 -> caves 2 -> mines 2 and so on, that should make your run considerably stronger in the long run Any low health character can benefit a lot from that actually, so obviously both losts, both keepers, but also characters like tainted maggy, tainted eve or lszarus
damn, that advice with the alternate floors is really good actually! Really wish I knew that before completing t lost lol, would've probably made things so much easier
This is probably one of the most important tips for every single character. (Based off of context I knew what intercalate meant but I've never heard that word before ever in my life)
One extra thing for the keepers: Blow up all the pots you can reasonably do on the basement, i don't know if they have i higher chance but most often then not i see swallowed penny drop from those and it makes the run twice as strong just from the start.
A good thing to mention with blue baby, the poop has a handful of secret synergies with items like midas touch and hallowed ground, making any poop spawned have a high chance to be either gold or holy, can turn an awful active item to a very good one
Average tainted cain run without eid: painful struggle all the way to depths 1 without a single dps up until a host finally puts you out of your misery
@shaneeroh2213 there's this Chinese site that's a calculator, you put in the seed and there's counters for pick ups that you add/remove items from. Kinda sucks keeping it up to date but
29:38 i actually have a tip for tainted cain i find really helpful, if you can spawn any item in a secret room via something like sacrificial alter, mystery gift, a judgement card, etc, the pick ups you get from the item will be from the secret room pool like bone hearts, you can do this for something like angel rooms too. always helpful to keep in mind.
The Isaac tip wasn’t great, if you have a really bad item in your treasure room and it’s spawned right next to you when you start it’s worth rolling it since you can get another charge by the time you finish the floor, maximising your charges and possibly getting a good item while doing it
So basically, dont reroll the treasure room unless it is directly next to the starting room. In that case reroll immediately right? (Not don't reroll, but last priority i mean)
Yeah in the background video he literally cleared exactly 6 charges worth of rooms before the boss, meaning he basically wasted one use of the d6 for no reason.
@stoinks7015 more or less, just try to guess how many rooms you still need to clear, and determine if it's worth or not to reroll now, but yes if it spawns just right next to you, just reroll
I just wanna let you know I started my first TBeth run in a while yesterday, watched your tips on playing her, walked into an angel room, used Lemegeton twice and got Sacred Heart and The Mind. Thank you LMAO
26:52 Personally, I would say go Devils. When dropping an item as Tainted Isaac *ONLY*, You do *NOT* lose progress towards transformations. so Guppy can be a really great boost, And the items reroll themselves, So its really quite easy to find Guppy. (You still lose Progress for Transformations when you use D4/100 or SacAltar.
Little tip for samson, if you can go down to the second floor with (at least) 5 cents, please do. It lets the arcade spawn, it will probably have a blood donation machine in there
46:40 I know I'm late to this video and this may go unread, but this is why the rerolling works: In repentance, items reroll to the "same pool they were acquired from." The game though, does not actually store what pool the item was from, rather the last pool generated when picking up the item. So, when you go into the deal rooms, you can immediately leave because you've generated that pool. (Matt was wrong in the video, you do not need to purchase anything, just spawn the items.) Now go back to your already generated items, and the game thinks you just got a whole bunch of items from that deal room! Another tip: when full clearing the floor, avoid red chests. They have a 10% chance to tp you to the deal room, making the pool already generated. Also, the d4 works the same way. If you get the d4 early in your run, play it like tainted eden for a broken run lol
I actually wanna add some more tips for T.Lazarus, the tips and tricks that I used to fully complete T.Lazarus marks without the help of birthright: 1. Beat the boss early, instead of clear every room and then the boss room, you should try to beat the boss with the stronger character, make sure to try to find the secret room or the shop to blow up keepers in order to maximized your deal chance before hand, after you beat the boss, you will be flipped into the other character and the boss item will drop, there you can decide whether you wanna take that item as that character or just go out and clear one room to take that item as the other character. 2.With that being said, map items are extremely useful as the more unclear rooms you have left, the more control you have over your character. 3. Speaking of control, Angel rooms are actually better than Devil deals imo, let say you've killed the boss with the character with a lot of health but you got flipped into the character with like 2 soul hearts and you go to the deal, and see brimstone there, well, just cry I guess. But with Angel items, not only can you take that item for free, you can also choose which characters you wanna take it as with the cost at only 1 bombs, because killing the angel is considered a room clear, therefore, you will be flipped into the other character and take that item as that character 4. But well, you can just throw controlling over your character out of the window if you have some way to generate energy, via Sharp plug or the battery, basically any battery items will make Tainted Laz a whole lot easier 5.Don't play him like Jacob and Esau, I know you wanna be busted with like a hundred damages, but putting all the good items on one character will make the other extra vulnerable and you'll struggle whenever you got flipped to that character, what I recommend is to give one character some form of protection or damage that can help them clear rooms, and all the good items can be the other character's. Just utilize the first trick, using the character with high damage to clear bosses (I'm not good at English and may make a lot of grammar mistakes, hope you don't mind it)
For regular cain, you forgot that luck foot is amazing and gives all positive pill effects, like virgo and phd. It also increases payout chance when gambling on machines and the like. All around an amazing character.
There was very little for Eve so I think it's worth mentioning that you should try and get several right hearts right before a boss to use razor blade. You can also sometimes use razor blade with curse room doors to go through without losing soul hearts
You didn't mention that for ??? you can "poop parry" which means if you have tears coming at you, you can use the poop to shoot them back, and these actually will deal damage to enemies if they manage to make contact. This means that the emergency button trinket is amazing with it as you basically have a free holy mantle every room. You can still use the poop anyways right as you're about to clear the room to still have the benefit of the item as well.
A good tip for Blue baby, is to always assess the room you just cleared and keep your charge when possible until you've cleared the first couple floors and hold off on active items or switch a full charged poop with them until you need to decide if you want to take it to the next floor. With a 1 tile wide gap, you can sub poops for rocks to form bridges where there aren't rocks and that helps a lot with resource gathering.
Tip regarding Judas, because you didn’t mention it - Judas is the easiest to clear boss rush with provided you keep the book of Belial. You can use it multiple times during the boss rush and it keeps adding into your damage. Just did that yesterday and it was so easy, can recommend strongly
to add to the T.Eve "reposition" tip at 37:24, when the clots reposition/fly to you, they deal a considerable amount of damage to whatever is in their path. kinda like Dark Esau's charge attack. additionally, you can hold the drop button to keep the clots in place while you move around (similar to separating J & E). for boss fights I like to walk into a corner, hold drop to keep my clots in the corner, then position myself so the boss is in between me and the clots. I pull sumpitorium, clots fly thru boss, and shreds a LOT of the boss's hp. like if you have enough clots you can one-shot bosses without firing a single tear at them. also with T. Eden, I would argue that it's wise to go for angels only with him, never devils or curse rooms. theres that chance that getting hit can give you an Abaddon or 9 Lives or something that obliterates your red health. removing that chance makes him feel less rng, while still being chaotic and fun great video man I learned some new things here!!
Another tip for t??? is to hold on to hallowed poops, they allow you to either completely cheese a boss of your choosing or exploit blood donation machines/devil beggars using the invulnerability chance.
man has NOT played the forgotten recently (the soul devil trick no longer kills you as you can't even switch back to the soul until you get a soulheart)
Lilith wants battery items. Getting double charges, or use active item twice, charge when damaged even. and anything that improves tears because you get exponentially more of it with thr friend box.
I like that people here have gathered and exchange knowledge about the game honestly i feel really motivated by this, i dont regret that i spent a lot of hours of my life on this game as this community is good too. Good day
Another tip for Apollyon is to go to downpour 2 since the knife piece is pretty much a free stat boost if you're not going for Mother, and you get an extra boss item to absorb/take, and you have more rooms and therefore more charges. There's also the added benefit of reduced risk from taking blind items (in case the visible item is bad) since if the blind item is bad you can absorb it while you're holding the item above your head (if you have bad reaction time you can pause buffer to see what the item is and then decide if you want to absorb it or not.).
Great video! I wanted to mention, for bethany also rotten hearts are useful, because they don't trigger devil/angel room percentage reduction when being hit
T. Jacob tip: if u have half a heart and u are trapped inside a curse room, use anima sola to turn urself into ghost while standing next to the door. This will give u invicibility frames.
Thank you for these useful tips! One thing you probably just forgot to add which you mentioned for T. Forgotten only, but boney boy in Regular Forgotten can block shots as well, which makes some stuff incredibly easier. I used to struggle with the Isaac and Mega Satan fight, but using the skeleton as protection makes these and some other boss fights look like a joke. Overall one of the more complicated, but really really good characters!
Great video! I've gotten all the marks in binding of Isaac for the normal characters but refused to ever play Jacob and Esau but after watching this video I would've never thought to use them how you described thank you so much!
my hint for tainted samson is to use book of shadows when berserk starts (for bigger enemies/bosses) so you can just run in them and completely destroy them, also, items like mutant spider give you multiple clubs for tainted azazel i find the sneeze very helpful against bullet hell bosses like mega satan and it lives because you can knock back tears and when you sneeze at an enemy that spawns smaller enemies (also counts if it spawns enemies when it dies) they also become weak to brimstone attacks and can be cleared easily (hush as an example)
24:35 definitely agree, but to add on to this point give any luck based items or luck boosting items to Jacob, as even if he doesn’t hit hard he’ll have an easier time getting lucky with tear effects. Other then that, try and get the “more options” items from the shops since that guarantees both Jacob and Esau get an item from either the treasure room or the boss room, equating to a free win depending on how early you got to.
One thing I'd like to do with Jacob and Esau is to give 1 of the brothers all the HP generating items as well as a bunch of protection items. That way, they can act as a sort of meat shield for the other brother.
I disagree with you on the lost. I think it's better going devils, since rolling the angel key piece is not guaranteed. Also, lost does have only 1 hp, so going devils to get that boost early on can help you with power scaling, just dealing with rooms easier. (yes, I'm a devil deal fan)
Two more tips for Skellyboi & Lil'Soul (The Forgotten): 1 - The Forgotten body attracts and blocks enemy projectiles (you can see it here 21:09), if he's low on hp switch to the Soul and stay behind the skeleton while shooting; 2 - The charge attack (bone boomerang) is an often neglected mechanic which also blocks enemy projectiles while also doing higher damage than one regular swing (unless your fire-rate is high enough, ofc); I like to enter a room fully charged and toss the bone club before starting to swing it around, and I also use it to help me with bullet-hell bosses while I'm repositioning between attacks.
Another great tip for the keeper is that you can absolutely abuse sac rooms almost aswell as the Maggys. Just make sure you’ve got the wooden nickel so you can spawn more health for yourself
22:20 losing rotten hearts does not lower the chance of a deal with tainted cain you cain combine 8 hearts or 8 coins (terrible quality pickups) to turn them into a guaranteed active item, which will turn your previous active item into other pickups
I don't go strictly angels because it's the worst when I lose the 30% and the 60% leaving me needing to beat depths 1 with item room and shop items. If I'm not lucky with those pools, then the run will just kinda die or drag on. Or I'll skill issue
-Keepers are really good at sacrifice rooms, just make sure you have 30 coins as tainted keeper to buy the angel item -Voodoo head guarantees a coin in curse rooms, so you can enter them as tainted keeper -Book of shadows makes tainted Bethany wisps invincible so you can run at enemies for high contact damage -A lot of characters can safely get down to 1 HP to open boss challenge rooms, e.g. Maggie, Keeper, Lost, etc. -Always grab PHD or lucky foot on T. Isaac because pills will give you permanent stats regardless of item -Practice using Dark Arts as T. Judas just as enemy projectiles spawn, as they'll be very close together -Downpour/Dross II is useful on a lot of characters who either want the extra floor's worth of pickups (e.g. T. Keeper, T. Bethany) or the extra boss item (Appolyon, T. Lazarus, T. Isaac, T. Lost) -Mausoleum/Gehenna raises the boss rush timer to 25 minutes which helps slower/more methodical characters like T. Lazarus or T. Cain still reach boss rush -T. Samson in Berserk mode gets a split second of invulnerability when killing an enemy so he can kill exploding enemies without taking damage, use that to clear a crowd quickly -Triggering T. Lost's Birthright will destroy Perfection so I'd avoid going for luck builds if I grab birthright -Back in the day before Lost had a mantle, a recommended tactic was to not be afraid to reset until you get a really good floor 1. Same goes for tainted lost today.
I think that you forgot to mention it. But when playing as T. Cain, rotten hearts will get you curse room items. Also with T. Cain, it's helpful not to pass up pickup-generating or pickup-modifying items early on. More items is never a bad thing, and items like Lil' Chest, BOGO Bombs, Acid Baby, and GB Bug -- while normally lackluster -- play a nice utility role with T. Cain. Not to mention that Acid Baby can also go a long way to getting stat ups with Virgo, PHD, or Lucky Foot. Even the Portable Slot can be useful if you have a ton of coins lying around, as recycling one slot with another will turn those 8 pennies into a handful of other, possibly more useful, pickups.
For tainted Forgotten. Size up is actually valuable. Only effects the bones and makes him a better shield. Avoid size down for once. Also use him in greed mode, he can stop the clock with zero damage.
I think one of the most important think to know on lost/Tlost are the different "charges" of holy mantle. Basically things like cross trinket are different holy mantles then the holy card etc
Another small tip I would've mentioned with Eve: If you have a soul heart you can use the invincibility frames from Razor Blade to get into the Curse Room without losing your Soul Heart if you have enough Red Hearts.
Worth noting for Tainted Maggie that Mom's Locket is imo an S tier trinket. Having all enemies drop full hearts is super helpful in those later floors where you're taking full heart damage.
Tainted Eve tip: You can manipulate your health easily, so after basement 2, alternate between the alt path and the main path to get as many boss trap rooms as possible. Free items, every time.
For The Lost (and Tainted Lost) Devil Rooms are good because of possible Dead Cat. I think for the video you should add a list of some items that work well with each character and which ones to avoid (other than the clear obvious ones)
Was thinking you'd talk more about specific items strong on certain characters, but honestly you can make an entire video out of that too I feel. Also for Tainted Jacob I like to turn into the lost after full clearing the floor to pick up stuff I couldn't reach without flight
A huge upside of going angels with Lilith, is the possibility of getting immaculate conception. Pairs great with cambion and essentially changes nothing about your game plan while doubling the reward.
Unspoken advice with Bethany 0:22:04 Bethany DO NEVER DO RE-RUNS! At some point the game will take your book and leave you completely screwed because bethany still can't grab soul hearts
Fix for the ??? character tip: Do not backtrack to the very start of the floor just to put a poop there, because you will lose out on boss rush and hush. Just put the poop as a bread crumb trail along the way for each room you complete.
also a really small addition but one passive item im just generally kinda "eh its okay, but it could be a better item" with usually, but always hyped to see as the forgotten is shielded tears there was one run i did where i got to delirium as the forgotten with 9 lives, the first life, i died during that telefragging assholes death animation (i think a stray bullet hit me right as the static was overlaying before they disappeared so i died with him LOL) meaning i had to do the entire fight again with 1 HP per form, and shielded tears SAVED my ass so hard, i think i also had the milk that makes u just constantly swing too, so there was no bullets hitting me the whole time i fought him. definitely a pickup worth going for (esp that combo with the milk) if u see it
Tricky thing about the devil deals with the keeper is that the developers actually tried really hard to make it work They used to cost health in the afterbirth days and it was fucking awful, anything good would just straight up kill you Buying the devil deals with money is a MASSIVE improvement, which makes it all the more sad that it's still terrible. Only way you're buying something from the first deal is by playing the sac room, but if you played the sac room chances are you'll get an angel anyway Honestly the only way they could improve on that is by making the deals cost less, but that might end up making it way too overpowered
ive been experimenting a bit with razor blade usage on eve and there are some tips that i think got missed (though theyre more for razor blade than eve i guess) razor blade prioritizes red health, so if you want to protect any soul hearts or black hearts you can use the i-frames from razor to sneak in (though first use of razor also costs a full heart in the room so weigh your options before doing this) second, i feel like a lot of people dont realize that razor blade provides a damage buff on use? forgot if its the first use only or what, but because of this i do like to go into bosses out of whore mode so that the buffs from both whore and blade apply
For the losts id argue that devil deals are better than angels due to the devil pool being better suited to the characters, namely damocles having the instant death negated and the angel deals having 2 of its best items useless on them
You can't have a segment on Blue Baby's frail ass without mentioning that The Poop also has an innate Butter Bean effect, meaning he can push incoming projectiles away if they're close enough to him. It's a good panic button that helps ensure you keep your HP until you get a proper build going.
might be a kind of silly way of using them, but when playing j+e i tend to stack luck-based items onto jacob. without perfection, -1 starting luck is really hard to claw out of imo, so my setup tends to be All dps going to esau Except for tear effects which go to jacob
as a dead god player this man is lying hold R until the green spider is in the yellow crown room
yes :)
or the big eye
Or the funny glasses
Or funni vr headset
Or the purple fly
37:00 that little pause after the health down pill speaks thousands of words without talking
As an extra tip with keeper, I would like to say that he, along with Maggie, is one of the best users of the sacrifice rooms since when he sacrifices himself, coins can spawn and he heals very easily.
verrry true
I got the megasatan mark on the lost by teleporting to the dark room with strawman in curse room lmao
can’t believe this wasn’t mentioned he is designed to sacrifice himself for those angel deals
Keeper with piggy bank, humble bundle, and swallowed coin AUGH
Every time you say Go Angels I imagine youre cheering on a football team
Fr he hates devil rooms
The basketball team near my house is called Angels
Two things I would add regarding Apollyon:
1.) Void can nullify curse of the blind. When a blind item is picked up & revealed you have like 1.5 seconds to decide if you want to void the item.
2.) You mention it’s not good to void active items if their charge bar is < 6, fair point, but you didn’t mention that active items with a charge bar of > 6 are reduced to only 6 whenever you void them. One run I void-ed a mega mush (12 charge bar) and it basically broke the game b/c I could easily refill the 6 charges with each use of the item, so I had unlimited mega mush for the rest of the run.
I dont know how many people will get this reference. But youre like the Otzdarva of the Binding of Issac community. Youre out here giving us all this good information like a GOAT
hello friends this is otz, at least according to my birthright and death certificate
Hello otz this is friends, at least according to the Rules card
Hello friends this is otz and they have just announced Judas as the new killer in dead by daylight
hello friends this is otz, at least according to ending 12
For lost/t lost, I also recommend switching in and out of alt floor. Boss challenge room only generated on the 2 floor of each chapter, so going b1->b2->downpour 2->c2->mines 2 will allow you to grab extra boss items.
2:56 green has got to be my favorite mode in isaac
green donation machine is cwazy
greenier
@@rker greenier? grineer? TENNO SKOOM!!!!
extra tip for tainted apollyon: You can abyss an item while it is in the little "holding the item above head" animation. That makes trash shop items insanely good, especially if they are 7 or 10 cents
Tainted lost's passive doesn't quite work like that. Yes it has a chance to roll lower quality items, but the main thing is that anything that's related to hp (breakfast or razor blade for exemple) or is a defensive item (most respawns, holy mantle, etc) just can't spawn at all
Another little trick with him is to prioritize the even floors. What I mean is this, each chapter in the game has two floors (or xl but doesn't matter here). Boss trap rooms, the challenge rooms with a boss item inside, can only spawn in the second floor of each chapter. One can take advantage of that by intercalating normal and alternate floors, so basically:
basement 1 -> basement 2 -> downpour 2 -> caves 2 -> mines 2 and so on, that should make your run considerably stronger in the long run
Any low health character can benefit a lot from that actually, so obviously both losts, both keepers, but also characters like tainted maggy, tainted eve or lszarus
damn, that advice with the alternate floors is really good actually! Really wish I knew that before completing t lost lol, would've probably made things so much easier
This is probably one of the most important tips for every single character.
(Based off of context I knew what intercalate meant but I've never heard that word before ever in my life)
Damn I wish i saw this comment a week ago when I was doing T lost runs lmao
One extra thing for the keepers:
Blow up all the pots you can reasonably do on the basement, i don't know if they have i higher chance but most often then not i see swallowed penny drop from those and it makes the run twice as strong just from the start.
A good thing to mention with blue baby, the poop has a handful of secret synergies with items like midas touch and hallowed ground, making any poop spawned have a high chance to be either gold or holy, can turn an awful active item to a very good one
Average tainted cain run without eid: painful struggle all the way to depths 1 without a single dps up until a host finally puts you out of your misery
How y'all so bad 😭
I play console therefore no mods that's why I suck
@fabianpena3671 me too, I hate that there's no way to check recipes for t cain even externally
@shaneeroh2213 there's this Chinese site that's a calculator, you put in the seed and there's counters for pick ups that you add/remove items from. Kinda sucks keeping it up to date but
29:38 i actually have a tip for tainted cain i find really helpful, if you can spawn any item in a secret room via something like sacrificial alter, mystery gift, a judgement card, etc, the pick ups you get from the item will be from the secret room pool like bone hearts, you can do this for something like angel rooms too. always helpful to keep in mind.
This actually saved my single T Cain run for getting multiple R keys and finally all the marks in the same run
@electric_6323I mean it's literally impossible to get all of your marks in one run with Tainted Cain but you could definitely get a lot of them
The Isaac tip wasn’t great, if you have a really bad item in your treasure room and it’s spawned right next to you when you start it’s worth rolling it since you can get another charge by the time you finish the floor, maximising your charges and possibly getting a good item while doing it
Exactly, holding onto charges to be "optimal" can actually be less optimal lol
So basically, dont reroll the treasure room unless it is directly next to the starting room. In that case reroll immediately right?
(Not don't reroll, but last priority i mean)
Yeah in the background video he literally cleared exactly 6 charges worth of rooms before the boss, meaning he basically wasted one use of the d6 for no reason.
@stoinks7015 more or less, just try to guess how many rooms you still need to clear, and determine if it's worth or not to reroll now, but yes if it spawns just right next to you, just reroll
I just wanna let you know I started my first TBeth run in a while yesterday, watched your tips on playing her, walked into an angel room, used Lemegeton twice and got Sacred Heart and The Mind. Thank you LMAO
26:52 Personally, I would say go Devils. When dropping an item as Tainted Isaac *ONLY*, You do *NOT* lose progress towards transformations. so Guppy can be a really great boost, And the items reroll themselves, So its really quite easy to find Guppy.
(You still lose Progress for Transformations when you use D4/100 or SacAltar.
5:50 Midas touch makes an increased chance for poop to be gold poop which affects the poop item to allow for some easy money if you’re struggling.
my tip for every character is just:
don't die
except for tainted jacob sometimes
Lazarus:
Advanced tip: make the enemies die
Pro Gamer Tip - Get down to half a heart as Tainted Eve and don't skill issue.
Little tip for samson, if you can go down to the second floor with (at least) 5 cents, please do. It lets the arcade spawn, it will probably have a blood donation machine in there
and then pray for the IV bag
You can block projectiles using poop. You can block enemies. You can do whatever you want with poop
You can mold it into sacred Heart 😎
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac sacred shart 😭
you can make bridges over gaps if no flight
46:40
I know I'm late to this video and this may go unread, but this is why the rerolling works:
In repentance, items reroll to the "same pool they were acquired from." The game though, does not actually store what pool the item was from, rather the last pool generated when picking up the item. So, when you go into the deal rooms, you can immediately leave because you've generated that pool. (Matt was wrong in the video, you do not need to purchase anything, just spawn the items.) Now go back to your already generated items, and the game thinks you just got a whole bunch of items from that deal room!
Another tip: when full clearing the floor, avoid red chests. They have a 10% chance to tp you to the deal room, making the pool already generated.
Also, the d4 works the same way. If you get the d4 early in your run, play it like tainted eden for a broken run lol
instructions unclear, removed anima sola from tainted jacob
you would smh
I actually wanna add some more tips for T.Lazarus, the tips and tricks that I used to fully complete T.Lazarus marks without the help of birthright:
1. Beat the boss early, instead of clear every room and then the boss room, you should try to beat the boss with the stronger character, make sure to try to find the secret room or the shop to blow up keepers in order to maximized your deal chance before hand, after you beat the boss, you will be flipped into the other character and the boss item will drop, there you can decide whether you wanna take that item as that character or just go out and clear one room to take that item as the other character.
2.With that being said, map items are extremely useful as the more unclear rooms you have left, the more control you have over your character.
3. Speaking of control, Angel rooms are actually better than Devil deals imo, let say you've killed the boss with the character with a lot of health but you got flipped into the character with like 2 soul hearts and you go to the deal, and see brimstone there, well, just cry I guess. But with Angel items, not only can you take that item for free, you can also choose which characters you wanna take it as with the cost at only 1 bombs, because killing the angel is considered a room clear, therefore, you will be flipped into the other character and take that item as that character
4. But well, you can just throw controlling over your character out of the window if you have some way to generate energy, via Sharp plug or the battery, basically any battery items will make Tainted Laz a whole lot easier
5.Don't play him like Jacob and Esau, I know you wanna be busted with like a hundred damages, but putting all the good items on one character will make the other extra vulnerable and you'll struggle whenever you got flipped to that character, what I recommend is to give one character some form of protection or damage that can help them clear rooms, and all the good items can be the other character's. Just utilize the first trick, using the character with high damage to clear bosses
(I'm not good at English and may make a lot of grammar mistakes, hope you don't mind it)
With regards to point 4, the one energy item to avoid with Tainted Laz is the 4.5 Volt, it significantly slows down your ability to charge your Flip.
Your English is great, and these are great tips!
For regular cain, you forgot that luck foot is amazing and gives all positive pill effects, like virgo and phd. It also increases payout chance when gambling on machines and the like. All around an amazing character.
I put it on screen at 3:14 but don't talk about it cuz I forgor when recording lul
There was very little for Eve so I think it's worth mentioning that you should try and get several right hearts right before a boss to use razor blade. You can also sometimes use razor blade with curse room doors to go through without losing soul hearts
You didn't mention that for ??? you can "poop parry" which means if you have tears coming at you, you can use the poop to shoot them back, and these actually will deal damage to enemies if they manage to make contact. This means that the emergency button trinket is amazing with it as you basically have a free holy mantle every room. You can still use the poop anyways right as you're about to clear the room to still have the benefit of the item as well.
A good tip for Blue baby, is to always assess the room you just cleared and keep your charge when possible until you've cleared the first couple floors and hold off on active items or switch a full charged poop with them until you need to decide if you want to take it to the next floor. With a 1 tile wide gap, you can sub poops for rocks to form bridges where there aren't rocks and that helps a lot with resource gathering.
"Whenever I whip out the baby" lmao that's just fucking hilarious without context
Really good as a beginner guide - looking forward to the advanced guide
Tip regarding Judas, because you didn’t mention it - Judas is the easiest to clear boss rush with provided you keep the book of Belial. You can use it multiple times during the boss rush and it keeps adding into your damage. Just did that yesterday and it was so easy, can recommend strongly
Lilith’s the easiest mate. You quickly multiply your followers. But yeah, Belial is a similar thing, just not quite as powerful
I love these kinds of videos, I'm so glad we got one of them from you! Very cool!
to add to the T.Eve "reposition" tip at 37:24, when the clots reposition/fly to you, they deal a considerable amount of damage to whatever is in their path. kinda like Dark Esau's charge attack. additionally, you can hold the drop button to keep the clots in place while you move around (similar to separating J & E). for boss fights I like to walk into a corner, hold drop to keep my clots in the corner, then position myself so the boss is in between me and the clots. I pull sumpitorium, clots fly thru boss, and shreds a LOT of the boss's hp. like if you have enough clots you can one-shot bosses without firing a single tear at them.
also with T. Eden, I would argue that it's wise to go for angels only with him, never devils or curse rooms. theres that chance that getting hit can give you an Abaddon or 9 Lives or something that obliterates your red health. removing that chance makes him feel less rng, while still being chaotic and fun
great video man I learned some new things here!!
Another tip for t??? is to hold on to hallowed poops, they allow you to either completely cheese a boss of your choosing or exploit blood donation machines/devil beggars using the invulnerability chance.
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dud ok
that was genuinely very impressive.
You hit the boss TWICE with tainted Esau. At least it looked like it.
Mattman was in the intro 🎉
Lets go
man has NOT played the forgotten recently (the soul devil trick no longer kills you as you can't even switch back to the soul until you get a soulheart)
i misunderstood your comment LUL tbh i've always been too scared to even try when soul has no soul hearts so i didn't even know lmao
@@AnotherMattPlayingIsaac no no, it USED to kill you when you switched back
wait so this is actually a mechanic and not a bug?
Tip #0: Hold that R
Lilith wants battery items. Getting double charges, or use active item twice, charge when damaged even. and anything that improves tears because you get exponentially more of it with thr friend box.
I like that people here have gathered and exchange knowledge about the game honestly i feel really motivated by this, i dont regret that i spent a lot of hours of my life on this game as this community is good too. Good day
Another tip for Apollyon is to go to downpour 2 since the knife piece is pretty much a free stat boost if you're not going for Mother, and you get an extra boss item to absorb/take, and you have more rooms and therefore more charges. There's also the added benefit of reduced risk from taking blind items (in case the visible item is bad) since if the blind item is bad you can absorb it while you're holding the item above your head (if you have bad reaction time you can pause buffer to see what the item is and then decide if you want to absorb it or not.).
46:12 Diarrheaaaaa...
Great video! I wanted to mention, for bethany also rotten hearts are useful, because they don't trigger devil/angel room percentage reduction when being hit
For Cain I'd also say to abuse pills
a shitty run can go crazy really fast if you get lucky enough, but worst case scenarios, still a stat up.
T. Jacob tip: if u have half a heart and u are trapped inside a curse room, use anima sola to turn urself into ghost while standing next to the door. This will give u invicibility frames.
Thank you for these useful tips! One thing you probably just forgot to add which you mentioned for T. Forgotten only, but boney boy in Regular Forgotten can block shots as well, which makes some stuff incredibly easier. I used to struggle with the Isaac and Mega Satan fight, but using the skeleton as protection makes these and some other boss fights look like a joke. Overall one of the more complicated, but really really good characters!
Great video! I've gotten all the marks in binding of Isaac for the normal characters but refused to ever play Jacob and Esau but after watching this video I would've never thought to use them how you described thank you so much!
my hint for tainted samson is to use book of shadows when berserk starts (for bigger enemies/bosses) so you can just run in them and completely destroy them, also, items like mutant spider give you multiple clubs
for tainted azazel i find the sneeze very helpful against bullet hell bosses like mega satan and it lives because you can knock back tears and when you sneeze at an enemy that spawns smaller enemies (also counts if it spawns enemies when it dies) they also become weak to brimstone attacks and can be cleared easily (hush as an example)
24:35 definitely agree, but to add on to this point give any luck based items or luck boosting items to Jacob, as even if he doesn’t hit hard he’ll have an easier time getting lucky with tear effects.
Other then that, try and get the “more options” items from the shops since that guarantees both Jacob and Esau get an item from either the treasure room or the boss room, equating to a free win depending on how early you got to.
One thing I'd like to do with Jacob and Esau is to give 1 of the brothers all the HP generating items as well as a bunch of protection items. That way, they can act as a sort of meat shield for the other brother.
Best Tainted Blue Baby tip: Don't play that shit infant
Kid named completion marks:
I disagree with you on the lost. I think it's better going devils, since rolling the angel key piece is not guaranteed. Also, lost does have only 1 hp, so going devils to get that boost early on can help you with power scaling, just dealing with rooms easier.
(yes, I'm a devil deal fan)
im not even a huge devil deal fan but devils are 100% better for the lost
Another ??? tip, if you find midas touch and there are still shops and you still are rocking the poop, take it, you now can buy whatever you want
Two more tips for Skellyboi & Lil'Soul (The Forgotten):
1 - The Forgotten body attracts and blocks enemy projectiles (you can see it here 21:09), if he's low on hp switch to the Soul and stay behind the skeleton while shooting;
2 - The charge attack (bone boomerang) is an often neglected mechanic which also blocks enemy projectiles while also doing higher damage than one regular swing (unless your fire-rate is high enough, ofc); I like to enter a room fully charged and toss the bone club before starting to swing it around, and I also use it to help me with bullet-hell bosses while I'm repositioning between attacks.
Another great tip for the keeper is that you can absolutely abuse sac rooms almost aswell as the Maggys. Just make sure you’ve got the wooden nickel so you can spawn more health for yourself
5:50 The poop is also pretty good in combination with
hollowed ground.
22:20 losing rotten hearts does not lower the chance of a deal
with tainted cain you cain combine 8 hearts or 8 coins (terrible quality pickups) to turn them into a guaranteed active item, which will turn your previous active item into other pickups
I don't go strictly angels because it's the worst when I lose the 30% and the 60% leaving me needing to beat depths 1 with item room and shop items. If I'm not lucky with those pools, then the run will just kinda die or drag on. Or I'll skill issue
Bro Mattman as the “veteran tip” is goated.
-Keepers are really good at sacrifice rooms, just make sure you have 30 coins as tainted keeper to buy the angel item
-Voodoo head guarantees a coin in curse rooms, so you can enter them as tainted keeper
-Book of shadows makes tainted Bethany wisps invincible so you can run at enemies for high contact damage
-A lot of characters can safely get down to 1 HP to open boss challenge rooms, e.g. Maggie, Keeper, Lost, etc.
-Always grab PHD or lucky foot on T. Isaac because pills will give you permanent stats regardless of item
-Practice using Dark Arts as T. Judas just as enemy projectiles spawn, as they'll be very close together
-Downpour/Dross II is useful on a lot of characters who either want the extra floor's worth of pickups (e.g. T. Keeper, T. Bethany) or the extra boss item (Appolyon, T. Lazarus, T. Isaac, T. Lost)
-Mausoleum/Gehenna raises the boss rush timer to 25 minutes which helps slower/more methodical characters like T. Lazarus or T. Cain still reach boss rush
-T. Samson in Berserk mode gets a split second of invulnerability when killing an enemy so he can kill exploding enemies without taking damage, use that to clear a crowd quickly
-Triggering T. Lost's Birthright will destroy Perfection so I'd avoid going for luck builds if I grab birthright
-Back in the day before Lost had a mantle, a recommended tactic was to not be afraid to reset until you get a really good floor 1. Same goes for tainted lost today.
I think that you forgot to mention it. But when playing as T. Cain, rotten hearts will get you curse room items. Also with T. Cain, it's helpful not to pass up pickup-generating or pickup-modifying items early on. More items is never a bad thing, and items like Lil' Chest, BOGO Bombs, Acid Baby, and GB Bug -- while normally lackluster -- play a nice utility role with T. Cain. Not to mention that Acid Baby can also go a long way to getting stat ups with Virgo, PHD, or Lucky Foot. Even the Portable Slot can be useful if you have a ton of coins lying around, as recycling one slot with another will turn those 8 pennies into a handful of other, possibly more useful, pickups.
Ty, I have to restart soonish and I never know wtf to do 😭
26:20 this applies to multiplayer as well, you can give free hp to someone after trading it off on a pedestal for another passive item.
Tbh with tainted lilith i think its better to use tears late-game, because you dont have to aim and you usally have some good tear effects.
Fun apollyon tech! You can void shop items and devil deal items by using the active item while you're holding the item above your head
15:13 to be more precise, you will only get one of the 8 familiars listed in the wiki, that means you actually have a high incubus/twisted pair chance
Great video, probably took quite some time to make so I appreciate it.
just got repentance after not touching the game in a hot hot minute- super appreciate this video dude
I found using Blind Rage with Tainted Magdalene works in conjunction with her gimmick, since it gives more Invincibility frames to hug enemies.
For tainted eve when using sumptorium the clots can deal damage as they’re flying back towards you if they pass through enemies
For tainted Forgotten. Size up is actually valuable. Only effects the bones and makes him a better shield. Avoid size down for once.
Also use him in greed mode, he can stop the clock with zero damage.
I think one of the most important think to know on lost/Tlost are the different "charges" of holy mantle. Basically things like cross trinket are different holy mantles then the holy card etc
I once beat a rebirth save file on mobile. I did the lost without a mantle and got the first 6 marks
@dirimesavir1337 i guess? Main thing that got me through it was learning how to be really good at the game and getting lucky
Tainted lost is harder, not because the character is harder. No, two things, spike rocks and spike chests
Thank you. Been looking for something like this
Another small tip I would've mentioned with Eve: If you have a soul heart you can use the invincibility frames from Razor Blade to get into the Curse Room without losing your Soul Heart if you have enough Red Hearts.
tainted forgotten benefits a lot from size ups (magic mush), on touch (midas' touch) and enemies nearby (venus) items
Worth noting for Tainted Maggie that Mom's Locket is imo an S tier trinket. Having all enemies drop full hearts is super helpful in those later floors where you're taking full heart damage.
Actually super helpful, thanks, Matt!
Tainted Eve tip: You can manipulate your health easily, so after basement 2, alternate between the alt path and the main path to get as many boss trap rooms as possible. Free items, every time.
I'd argue that Berserk is pretty useful in bullet-hell fights, since the swing can deflect bullets as well (as you can see at 39:55)
As someone who now has a -100 win streak playing tainted lost this is definitely gonna help
bot, he's not hard at all. you literally get better items.
@@torbothy”better items”
For The Lost (and Tainted Lost) Devil Rooms are good because of possible Dead Cat.
I think for the video you should add a list of some items that work well with each character and which ones to avoid (other than the clear obvious ones)
13:39 you can only pick up only 1 angel deal too unless you kill the angles
22:40 fun fact, you can preserve your deal chance by picking up rotten hearts
Was thinking you'd talk more about specific items strong on certain characters, but honestly you can make an entire video out of that too I feel.
Also for Tainted Jacob I like to turn into the lost after full clearing the floor to pick up stuff I couldn't reach without flight
A huge upside of going angels with Lilith, is the possibility of getting immaculate conception. Pairs great with cambion and essentially changes nothing about your game plan while doubling the reward.
Unspoken advice with Bethany
0:22:04 Bethany
DO NEVER DO RE-RUNS! At some point the game will take your book and leave you completely screwed because bethany still can't grab soul hearts
Fix for the ??? character tip: Do not backtrack to the very start of the floor just to put a poop there, because you will lose out on boss rush and hush. Just put the poop as a bread crumb trail along the way for each room you complete.
also a really small addition but one passive item im just generally kinda "eh its okay, but it could be a better item" with usually, but always hyped to see as the forgotten is shielded tears
there was one run i did where i got to delirium as the forgotten with 9 lives, the first life, i died during that telefragging assholes death animation (i think a stray bullet hit me right as the static was overlaying before they disappeared so i died with him LOL)
meaning i had to do the entire fight again with 1 HP per form, and shielded tears SAVED my ass so hard, i think i also had the milk that makes u just constantly swing too, so there was no bullets hitting me the whole time i fought him. definitely a pickup worth going for (esp that combo with the milk) if u see it
You can also protect Bethany's deal chance with rotten hearts! I only just recently discovered that.
9:46 Widow is a fricking nightmare to beat.
Tricky thing about the devil deals with the keeper is that the developers actually tried really hard to make it work
They used to cost health in the afterbirth days and it was fucking awful, anything good would just straight up kill you
Buying the devil deals with money is a MASSIVE improvement, which makes it all the more sad that it's still terrible. Only way you're buying something from the first deal is by playing the sac room, but if you played the sac room chances are you'll get an angel anyway
Honestly the only way they could improve on that is by making the deals cost less, but that might end up making it way too overpowered
It might be worth noting that if you void the Alabasters Box you dont need soul hearts to charge it and it just activates when you use void agai
Something cool with bethany is that you can actually use eraser multiple times on a floor because of the charges (unless they fixed it)
ive been experimenting a bit with razor blade usage on eve and there are some tips that i think got missed (though theyre more for razor blade than eve i guess)
razor blade prioritizes red health, so if you want to protect any soul hearts or black hearts you can use the i-frames from razor to sneak in (though first use of razor also costs a full heart in the room so weigh your options before doing this)
second, i feel like a lot of people dont realize that razor blade provides a damage buff on use? forgot if its the first use only or what, but because of this i do like to go into bosses out of whore mode so that the buffs from both whore and blade apply
razor blade doesn't affect your deal chance, too.
For the losts id argue that devil deals are better than angels due to the devil pool being better suited to the characters, namely damocles having the instant death negated and the angel deals having 2 of its best items useless on them
always take daemon's tail when you are playing black/blue heart only character (it turns some red hearts to black)
I'd say always take the demon's tail when you're playing any character that has health, s tier trinket
@@orions2908 so true
You can't have a segment on Blue Baby's frail ass without mentioning that The Poop also has an innate Butter Bean effect, meaning he can push incoming projectiles away if they're close enough to him. It's a good panic button that helps ensure you keep your HP until you get a proper build going.
might be a kind of silly way of using them, but when playing j+e i tend to stack luck-based items onto jacob. without perfection, -1 starting luck is really hard to claw out of imo, so my setup tends to be All dps going to esau Except for tear effects which go to jacob