Absolute Genius! We have been saying this for years! So many great ideas, I’d be surprised if Artic Cat doesn’t jump all over this. The anticipation is just overwhelming.
Turns out they didn't announce the wedge ski geometry last week, but it can't be far away. Eliminating the need for counter-steering is going to be huge for Cat.
I love the sarcasm !! (might offer a new colour, different reflector colour, different bolts LOL!) Completely summarizes the model developement work done in the past 10-15 years. Love the spare Alpha Rail.... It would appear you have more spares rails than you would like... never thought having too many spares was a possibility. haha Just found your channel but I'm really enjoying the content. A very original take on the snowmobile industry/ snowmobiling as a whole. A rare gem I would say! Thanks for the content, I hope to see many more videos!
THAT, was one of the best videos about the genius snowmobile company, Arctic Cat! I totally agree, with basically everything you said...honestly! They made good working sleds until around 2020 and everything went off the rails...they may be currently hiding in the negative space, BUT they were one of the first OEM to have a LED headlight
@@AkatarawaJapan ha ha yes! The Alpha was revolutionary but not everyone is a fan, perhaps if they keep twin rail as an option for the mountain and cross-over sleds would have helped. But really what has Cat done since??? Added Yamahas's power steering...
Buy the legend book of Arctic cat. They were the first for alot of new inventions that the other males came in behind and took eventually. If anyone knows the history they would know. And I’m not looking for likes 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@fasterdura1772 Yep, lots of firsts from Cat over the years. Don’t know if you’ve ridden one but the Alpha is fantastic in deep pow. Jeff Brines explains it really well in one of his YT reviews and so does Jason McMurray-who rides a Cat and a Poo with Muskoka Freerider.
I'm a Polaris guy, but I'm still really rooting for Cat. I know they've had some tough years - they ALL have - but I feel like they're the underdogs even though they build a badass snowmobile. I have a hunch that they're focusing on breaking ties with Yamaha, which I would applaud, but I hope they can do it and still remain successful at the same time. Don't die on us Cat!!!
If the auto industry is anything to go by I would expect more ties between companies in this tiny and shrinking market, not fewer. But we’ll see. Meanwhile I have sold my Doo and ordered my first Polaris, so next year my shed will be full of cat poo.
Why would you want them to break ties with Yamaha? They’ve marketed some of the most reliable machines than a majority of manufacturers out there. Their ties with Yamaha is what has me wanting to buy one, not turn away from it.
Polaris wouldn’t be where they are now without the competition. Plain and simple. With no competition we would have to fully aftermarket sleds just to ride them in mountains
They fell off the rails after about the 2018 model year. When they canned half the ARCTCO engineering staff and brought people up from Textrons Golf Cart plant And at the same time canned several local dealers for mystery reasons I felt like things haven’t been this bad since 1981. A friend used to go to the plant every year and pick up his new sled. Last time he went was 2021 he said moral is LOW. I understand supply issues are bad but dang. It’s like watching your best friend jump off a bridge with no parachute and no water below.
This is not difficult to follow at all. I love in-depth sarcasm about snowmobile companies. It's great. You had me from the first second. It's what I subscribe to your channel for. More like this please!
I am often stunned at the lack of marketing by AC/Textron. They could stay viable in the market by simply refining there current models and offering a less expensive and reliable option, somewhat like the Japanese dual sport motorcycles (ie KLR 650, DRZ 400 etc.). I think they could even hold their loyal fans by offering a raised platform (like an Ice Age kit) trimmed tail section, say without the terrible snowflap, and bring back a MC dual rail as an option and keep the price less then doo or poo. Ironically they seem to be going the same direction of Suzuki in North America, no new product and almost zero marketing. As a AC loyal fan I actually hope for a Yamaha buyout to possibly revive the brand, but honestly don't know why they would unless they wanted to maintain a presence in the snomo world.
Supplychain issues continue to impact AlphaHawk production-can’t get chips for the sophisticated ECU-but send lots of money and we’ll see what can be done.
@@AkatarawaJapan I’m now waiting for arctic cat’s snow-check. Maybe they have it right, we will know if we have good snow conditions before committing.
Well good news their sleds are exactly the same for the past few years until you get nitpicking about motors and chassis setup. With a wrap they’re the same sled.
It’s like Ferrari sales, you never see any adverts for Ferrari. They are so exclusive that they don’t even sell to new buyers unless you are vented and vouched for by a long time prestigious customer
This was awesome - some of your best work?!?! I would love for cat to come out with something new (rode cat for 20 years before switching to Poo). Like I have said for the last 4 years Arctic Cat new release is some small changes and BND - Bold New Disappointment.
Great content. Huge Arctic cat fan myself and love my '16 M8, but I just don't understand what the fuck they're doing in the marketing and innovation department. They've gotta step it up or they won't be making sleds for much longer.
I ride a ‘16 M8 154x3” snopro ltd all black. Love it. Wanted a new one this year but realized how good mine already is with that Suzuki 800 motor. But I can’t agree with your sentiments I mean they came out with the Alpha which has its naysayers, but I think they really could do a twin alpha rail kit for people who are really bothered by it. I want that gray/blue one, was hoping to catch a rebate. What are your issues with them besides the lack of major changes and the poor marketing, market share? The alpha was a major change/innovation and I love the body style. Proclimb - Ascender might look similar but they handle immensely different. If they can keep shaving off weight and making good looking sleds I think they can keep us core customers that ride or die with cat. I think I actually like the fact that they’re less popular and always do the opposite of what the crowds do. I also switched sleds with my buddy who has a 165” 2021 Polaris and I wanted my sled back in about 5 minutes while he enjoyed learning how to get on edge with mine better than his - 5 years older - because Cats come out the box with excellent Fox suspension instead of needing a $4k upgrade from the walker-evans crap. End rant/rave lol.
@@daverothgery7854 Thanks for the rant. I’m just having some fun because they’re so lame at giving the market a sense of where they’re going, and judging by the reaction lots of people agree. Cats are great sleds-see the full review I did of the Alpha HC. I had the same experience with a learner friend getting off his Khaos and trying an Alpha. Suddenly he could get on edge and sidehill the sled.
OMG yes! There are so many layers of anticipation I can barely sleep. First there’s the is-it-three-or-is-it-four bolts, and then the whole question of WHICH bolts. God I love snowcheck season.
You completely missed it! Those side reflectors aren't going to be reflectors after all.... they are putting on TURN SIGNALS!!!! It's why they have to change those 2 or 3 bolts to make it ultra lightweight without compromising durability. Will be a revolutionary add on into the passionate snowmobile industry so passionate riders both in front and behind will know which tree you're heading for! Honestly, it sucks though seeing how quiet Kitty is... looking at my 2012 versus the 2022s they've made vast improvements. I will say Cat has always had some of the best looking sleds.
It really is sad man, you and I know Cat could do great things. Honestly they have a great spot to start from, I wish they would get off their asses and stay competitive.
Kinda depressing for me, a longtime Cat customer, to slither over to the dark side. As of 10 days ago I own a new Ski-Doo Renegade. Today I rode it for 100 miles. Now I understand the hype.
I know precisely nothing about trail sleds so can only guess what makes one better than another. But last week I rode in a group of 2 Cats, 2 Doos, and 2 Poos. All recent mountain sleds. All great. Biggest difference was who had the most convenient tunnel bag!
The reason you haven't heard from them is because they were swamped with Lawsuits (2 if im correct) I also feel that Yamaha may purchase Cat from Textron
Not sure I agree with you about Yamaha. I’m glad they’re in the game, adding their weight to Cat. Sleds are a tiny, climate-dependant, expensive, and fickle luxury market but if Yamaha ever dedicated their engineering A-team to the job I’m sure they and Cat together could light a fire.
@@AkatarawaJapan I was there at the forefront buying 4-stroke sleds from them in the mid 00’s thinking they were going to revolutionize the sled market like they did with MX and the YZ400F. I did well in the first XC race I competed in on my Vector. Then the Nytro came out in ‘08, the rider forward sled many of us were waiting for. And…. it was a Ill handling turd. What’s Yamaha do to fix it? Nothing. In the meantime the other OEM’s improved their sleds almost every year, made changes, developed and released new chassis and pushed the industry to create better, lighter sleds. Then there was Yamaha, not innovating, not responding to rider complaints, not reacting to the market and look where it got them. A solid 4th place in sales and now they don’t even make their own sleds. It’s pathetic. They could go away tomorrow and few would miss them because they could buy Arctic Cats and have the same thing. I’m actually a Yamaha guy, own a bunch of Yamaha dirt bikes and four wheeler and a VK. But I won’t defend their piss poor performance or attitude towards the sled market. Doo went from #4 in the late 80’s to #1 by innovating and improving their sleds. Yamaha is just an engine supplier that sells blue AC sleds. They still produces few Japanese built models that are obsolete so that proves they could still manufacture new sleds and get back into it if they wanted but they choose not to.
So do u recommend putting a rail brace on since i seen you had a broken rail and mine came with one cracked in the same spot. I hate that the textron is ruining the cat name because they are honestly a top competitor in terms of reliability. To me i think they should make a dual rail again because they could directly compete with polaris in terms of how they ride but it would probably be a more reliable machine honestly
I think it depends on how and where you ride. Most riders, including me, probably don’t need a brace but the guys who jump and thump a lot in the forest seem to brace. Mine broke from a hard jump landing on the edge of a hidden stump. Nothing was going to survive that. My teeth didn’t!
@@AkatarawaJapan oh man not good. I might start jumping a bit but not to the extent some guys do. probably start riding in late december/ when snow pack covers alot of stuff. Also i know backwoods bmp makes a brace for the front section now
Sure, but remember Cat has given us LED lights, the Alpha, C-TEC engines, high quality shocks as standard, the Blast and all kinds of other good stuff over the years. Just can’t understand why they’re happy to be seen as a 1970’s furniture factory.
Is there really that much weight difference these days? In any case it’s not a couple of extra pounds that makes me a moron on my sled. I get so annoyed when Polaris give dry weights for their sleds. Do they ride without gas, oil or coolant?
I want to thumbs up this video, but its at the legendary #69 likes. I dont dare. Quality content per usual. PS: any FB post I see about the launch date I always mention the twin alpha rail set up and bold new graphics. 👍
Sad but true!!!! I see Yamaha has a few teasers and from what I can tell nothing new again. Maybe Arctic cat won’t exist, they’ll just make sleds for Yamaha and small ones for doo🤷♂️I know I’ve completely lost faith in cats ability to keep up never mind innovate.
Have you tried a 22 Alpha? It really agrivates me when people say Cats are behind the competition, because they simply are not. Ive ridden with the 22 Ski doos and polaris and my cat goes everywhere they go. Weve all raced up hills and the 800 hangs right with the 850s.
I’m not brand tribal but I’ve had a good run with Cats and have a great dealer 15 mins away so I’d like them to succeed. And I’m not naïve enough to expect every brand to make everything new every year. Look at Cat’s history, even fairly recently, and there is plenty of innovation and solid engineering. Amazing riders out there doing crazy things on Cats, too. So it beats me how they manage to come across so tepid.
@@JoeyNemetz no, I’m not a mountain rider, no mountains even remotely close to me. I have a fairly new 998 turbo cross country. Love the sled but it’s dated, doesn’t ride or handle as good as the competition and is missing some of the fancy do dads. I’m a cat guy, and would love to see them rise to the top and I know in order to do that they need to step up their game. That’s all I’m saying. Plus I’m soon going to need a new sled and would like the coolest thing I can get my hands on lol
@@AkatarawaJapan The right direction away from the house? Tree Owner: “But there is no house” SD: “All the other neighbouring properties have houses in this spot. You should have a house here. Let’s build a house!” TO & SD: “Phew.That tree was a close call not falling on the house.”
Wow alot of shitting on cat for no real innovation in the last 10 yrs.shit polaris road the indy chassis hard for what 20? I'm glad to see cat still around. Imagine how boring it would be with just ski-doo and polaris building new sleds. Think about this people's livelihood depends on that plant and it staying open. You don't need smart shocks and a state of the art dash display to have fun snowmobiling.
No...but I may have said there was a *chance* I didn't buy another. The Alpha and M8 I have now are great sleds any which way you look at it, and I'm keeping them. Just can't get over how Cat always comes across so half-assed. They'd be a force if they were whole-assed!
Easy there, Tiger. I own three Cats and it should be obvious I’m a big fan. Please look at the long-term review of the Alpha I reference at the start of this vid if you’re not sure where I’m coming from. I just don’t get why the company is so backward in coming forward.
They really are killing themselves. They make great sleds, but everyone talks shit about them cause they haven't been brainwashed with mass amounts of marketing.
Yes. They make good things but where is Cat’s equivalent of Dan Adams doing a…passionate 30-minute soliloquy on the latest from Polaris? Who is their Dave Norona, their Carl Custer, Burandt, etc? Must be damn hard making a buck as a snowmobile OEM but it’s easy to tell who has the…passion.
This is the type of content we need
Exactly! Without this kind of content the world would be a better place.
@@AkatarawaJapan 😂
Dude that was hilarious and awesome. I'm a long time cat fan but you're dead on. Thanks man.
Absolute Genius! We have been saying this for years! So many great ideas, I’d be surprised if Artic Cat doesn’t jump all over this. The anticipation is just overwhelming.
Turns out they didn't announce the wedge ski geometry last week, but it can't be far away. Eliminating the need for counter-steering is going to be huge for Cat.
Absolutely spot on , and Hilarious. God help us Green Bleeders.
I love the sarcasm !! (might offer a new colour, different reflector colour, different bolts LOL!) Completely summarizes the model developement work done in the past 10-15 years. Love the spare Alpha Rail.... It would appear you have more spares rails than you would like... never thought having too many spares was a possibility. haha
Just found your channel but I'm really enjoying the content. A very original take on the snowmobile industry/ snowmobiling as a whole. A rare gem I would say! Thanks for the content, I hope to see many more videos!
Glad you enjoyed my extremely serious analysis. It's always gratifying when my weeks of in-depth research are recognized.
That was briliant 😄
Probably the most accurate future Arctic Cat speculations i've seen
I hope not!
THAT, was one of the best videos about the genius snowmobile company, Arctic Cat! I totally agree, with basically everything you said...honestly!
They made good working sleds until around 2020 and everything went off the rails...they may be currently hiding in the negative space, BUT they were one of the first OEM to have a LED headlight
The Cat crew have made many great snowmobiley things, but mark my words the Mono Mono Mono is going to be the caking on the ice.
Off the rails…I see what you did there.
@@AkatarawaJapan ha ha yes! The Alpha was revolutionary but not everyone is a fan, perhaps if they keep twin rail as an option for the mountain and cross-over sleds would have helped. But really what has Cat done since??? Added Yamahas's power steering...
Buy the legend book of Arctic cat. They were the first for alot of new inventions that the other males came in behind and took eventually. If anyone knows the history they would know. And I’m not looking for likes 🤦♂️🤦♂️😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@@fasterdura1772 Yep, lots of firsts from Cat over the years. Don’t know if you’ve ridden one but the Alpha is fantastic in deep pow. Jeff Brines explains it really well in one of his YT reviews and so does Jason McMurray-who rides a Cat and a Poo with Muskoka Freerider.
I'm a Polaris guy, but I'm still really rooting for Cat. I know they've had some tough years - they ALL have - but I feel like they're the underdogs even though they build a badass snowmobile. I have a hunch that they're focusing on breaking ties with Yamaha, which I would applaud, but I hope they can do it and still remain successful at the same time. Don't die on us Cat!!!
If the auto industry is anything to go by I would expect more ties between companies in this tiny and shrinking market, not fewer. But we’ll see. Meanwhile I have sold my Doo and ordered my first Polaris, so next year my shed will be full of cat poo.
Ok way they would survive if they split from yamaha is if they took the 998 with them. Otherwise.....Asta la vista
Why would you want them to break ties with Yamaha? They’ve marketed some of the most reliable machines than a majority of manufacturers out there. Their ties with Yamaha is what has me wanting to buy one, not turn away from it.
@@matthewmyers2833 Because Yamaha is using Cat’s engineering. They’re moochers. Go pay your own engineers Yamaha
Polaris wouldn’t be where they are now without the competition. Plain and simple. With no competition we would have to fully aftermarket sleds just to ride them in mountains
Wow absolutely riveting content, I hope arctic cat engineers are watching this.
Riveting...I see what you did there.
Pissed my pants, absolutely love this! Fantastic work!!
It's not work when you're passionate about what you do. #mypassionisbiggerthanyourpassion
This is brilliant.
Love it!! 😂😂😂 Love your passionate passion you have for this passionate sport we all have so much passion for 🤘🏼
I recommend eating passionfruit at breakfast for maximum semantic satiation.
@@AkatarawaJapan 😜😜😂
They fell off the rails after about the 2018 model year. When they canned half the ARCTCO engineering staff and brought people up from Textrons Golf Cart plant And at the same time canned several local dealers for mystery reasons I felt like things haven’t been this bad since 1981. A friend used to go to the plant every year and pick up his new sled. Last time he went was 2021 he said moral is LOW. I understand supply issues are bad but dang. It’s like watching your best friend jump off a bridge with no parachute and no water below.
This is not difficult to follow at all. I love in-depth sarcasm about snowmobile companies. It's great. You had me from the first second. It's what I subscribe to your channel for. More like this please!
I am often stunned at the lack of marketing by AC/Textron. They could stay viable in the market by simply refining there current models and offering a less expensive and reliable option, somewhat like the Japanese dual sport motorcycles (ie KLR 650, DRZ 400 etc.). I think they could even hold their loyal fans by offering a raised platform (like an Ice Age kit) trimmed tail section, say without the terrible snowflap, and bring back a MC dual rail as an option and keep the price less then doo or poo. Ironically they seem to be going the same direction of Suzuki in North America, no new product and almost zero marketing. As a AC loyal fan I actually hope for a Yamaha buyout to possibly revive the brand, but honestly don't know why they would unless they wanted to maintain a presence in the snomo world.
Your great ideas have given me another great idea. Instead of a snow flap, how about a snow skirt right around the tunnel? Like a hovercraft.
Unfortunately Yamaha is the only OEM more tone deaf than Cat. They'll buy them, and then turn them into things absolutely nobody wants to ride.
My kind of sled!
Can’t wait for Yamaha to take over so they can finally release the Alpha Hawk the world deserves.
I'm snowchecking a Alphahawk.
Supplychain issues continue to impact AlphaHawk production-can’t get chips for the sophisticated ECU-but send lots of money and we’ll see what can be done.
Too funny. Loved the sarcasm.
Where was the sarcastic part? I missed it. Asking for a friend.
@@AkatarawaJapan I’m now waiting for arctic cat’s snow-check. Maybe they have it right, we will know if we have good snow conditions before committing.
Congrats on your new role as head of arctic cat mountain sled marketing!!!
Checked my junk mail but can’t find the contract-please resend.
🤣🤣🤣 this company is on the cusp of true greatness.
I absolutely love this video 🤣
Great update AJ, awesome vid
I am a yamaha guy but in my younger years I was a cat guy so I am rooting for them.
I am too, but it seems like they can't get out of their own way. Hoping they prove me wrong.
Well good news their sleds are exactly the same for the past few years until you get nitpicking about motors and chassis setup. With a wrap they’re the same sled.
Oh man I haven't laughed this hard at a snowmobile video in a long time.
Definitely snowchecking a 2026
Good to hear. Stick around-more BS, I mean heavily researched, vids on the way.
It’s like Ferrari sales, you never see any adverts for Ferrari. They are so exclusive that they don’t even sell to new buyers unless you are vented and vouched for by a long time prestigious customer
Ah. Playing hard to get. As in, don’t even think about it…?
Alphahawk! Yes!
This was awesome - some of your best work?!?! I would love for cat to come out with something new (rode cat for 20 years before switching to Poo). Like I have said for the last 4 years Arctic Cat new release is some small changes and BND - Bold New Disappointment.
BND! LOL. Cat has lots of DGRs (Damn Good Riders) showing us what their sleds can do. Hope the company keeps up, or it’s GNN (Good Night Nurse).
. Love the the 26" wheel option!! I
😂😂 geniuses? Bahahahaha...love this
Unfortunately my rigorous fact checking process failed on that one small point. It was actually a 26.5” wheel. Sincere apologies.
Good video.
Thanks, Trev. Always enjoy watching you make your Cat fly.
@@AkatarawaJapan thanks! Can't wait to see more of your videos👌
Great content. Huge Arctic cat fan myself and love my '16 M8, but I just don't understand what the fuck they're doing in the marketing and innovation department. They've gotta step it up or they won't be making sleds for much longer.
Thanks. Me too and me neither.
I ride a ‘16 M8 154x3” snopro ltd all black. Love it. Wanted a new one this year but realized how good mine already is with that Suzuki 800 motor. But I can’t agree with your sentiments I mean they came out with the Alpha which has its naysayers, but I think they really could do a twin alpha rail kit for people who are really bothered by it. I want that gray/blue one, was hoping to catch a rebate. What are your issues with them besides the lack of major changes and the poor marketing, market share? The alpha was a major change/innovation and I love the body style. Proclimb - Ascender might look similar but they handle immensely different. If they can keep shaving off weight and making good looking sleds I think they can keep us core customers that ride or die with cat. I think I actually like the fact that they’re less popular and always do the opposite of what the crowds do. I also switched sleds with my buddy who has a 165” 2021 Polaris and I wanted my sled back in about 5 minutes while he enjoyed learning how to get on edge with mine better than his - 5 years older - because Cats come out the box with excellent Fox suspension instead of needing a $4k upgrade from the walker-evans crap. End rant/rave lol.
@@daverothgery7854 Thanks for the rant. I’m just having some fun because they’re so lame at giving the market a sense of where they’re going, and judging by the reaction lots of people agree. Cats are great sleds-see the full review I did of the Alpha HC. I had the same experience with a learner friend getting off his Khaos and trying an Alpha. Suddenly he could get on edge and sidehill the sled.
Love your sg9 btw ❤ hoping the price slowly drops so I can put one beside my gc8 type ra limited
Ah, you appreciate quality. Best wagon ever. Never selling it.
I would be buried in one if I owned one too
I'm so excited for the 3 or 4 new bolts. 😆 🤣
OMG yes! There are so many layers of anticipation I can barely sleep. First there’s the is-it-three-or-is-it-four bolts, and then the whole question of WHICH bolts. God I love snowcheck season.
You completely missed it! Those side reflectors aren't going to be reflectors after all.... they are putting on TURN SIGNALS!!!! It's why they have to change those 2 or 3 bolts to make it ultra lightweight without compromising durability. Will be a revolutionary add on into the passionate snowmobile industry so passionate riders both in front and behind will know which tree you're heading for!
Honestly, it sucks though seeing how quiet Kitty is... looking at my 2012 versus the 2022s they've made vast improvements. I will say Cat has always had some of the best looking sleds.
I am humbled by the many great ideas this video has catalyzed.
Completely pissed myself watching this video. Thanks great job!
Sorry to hear that. Hope you were on the bog at the time.
Lmfao 😂 I’m sure you are 100% right unfortunately.
It really is sad man, you and I know Cat could do great things. Honestly they have a great spot to start from, I wish they would get off their asses and stay competitive.
@@JasonMcMurray True. It’s like, come on, Cat, you’ve got this-come out and fight your corner.
Kinda depressing for me, a longtime Cat customer, to slither over to the dark side. As of 10 days ago I own a new Ski-Doo Renegade. Today I rode it for 100 miles. Now I understand the hype.
I know precisely nothing about trail sleds so can only guess what makes one better than another. But last week I rode in a group of 2 Cats, 2 Doos, and 2 Poos. All recent mountain sleds. All great. Biggest difference was who had the most convenient tunnel bag!
The reason you haven't heard from them is because they were swamped with Lawsuits (2 if im correct) I also feel that Yamaha may purchase Cat from Textron
That’s not swamped. That’s just a day in the life of a manufacturing company in an industry where everyone makes pretty much the same thing.
I didn't know people actually drive cats usually they're just in the mechanics all year..
Really? I’ve got 3 Cats and they’ve been great.
I'm pretty sure they're working on a peddle drive softcore model and adaptive maincoon front track drive with a diesel engine!
That is a lot of genius packed into one sentence. You’re hired.
Well done! The only OEM currently worse than Cat is Yamaha, they just sit around, waiting for Cat’s sloppy seconds.
Not sure I agree with you about Yamaha. I’m glad they’re in the game, adding their weight to Cat. Sleds are a tiny, climate-dependant, expensive, and fickle luxury market but if Yamaha ever dedicated their engineering A-team to the job I’m sure they and Cat together could light a fire.
@@AkatarawaJapan I was there at the forefront buying 4-stroke sleds from them in the mid 00’s thinking they were going to revolutionize the sled market like they did with MX and the YZ400F. I did well in the first XC race I competed in on my Vector. Then the Nytro came out in ‘08, the rider forward sled many of us were waiting for. And…. it was a Ill handling turd. What’s Yamaha do to fix it? Nothing. In the meantime the other OEM’s improved their sleds almost every year, made changes, developed and released new chassis and pushed the industry to create better, lighter sleds.
Then there was Yamaha, not innovating, not responding to rider complaints, not reacting to the market and look where it got them. A solid 4th place in sales and now they don’t even make their own sleds. It’s pathetic. They could go away tomorrow and few would miss them because they could buy Arctic Cats and have the same thing.
I’m actually a Yamaha guy, own a bunch of Yamaha dirt bikes and four wheeler and a VK. But I won’t defend their piss poor performance or attitude towards the sled market. Doo went from #4 in the late 80’s to #1 by innovating and improving their sleds. Yamaha is just an engine supplier that sells blue AC sleds. They still produces few Japanese built models that are obsolete so that proves they could still manufacture new sleds and get back into it if they wanted but they choose not to.
@@thatalaskaguy Thanks. Fair comment. Maybe I can motivate Yamaha to get off their asses by sending them my AlphaHawk blueprints.
So do u recommend putting a rail brace on since i seen you had a broken rail and mine came with one cracked in the same spot. I hate that the textron is ruining the cat name because they are honestly a top competitor in terms of reliability. To me i think they should make a dual rail again because they could directly compete with polaris in terms of how they ride but it would probably be a more reliable machine honestly
I think it depends on how and where you ride. Most riders, including me, probably don’t need a brace but the guys who jump and thump a lot in the forest seem to brace. Mine broke from a hard jump landing on the edge of a hidden stump. Nothing was going to survive that. My teeth didn’t!
@@AkatarawaJapan oh man not good. I might start jumping a bit but not to the extent some guys do. probably start riding in late december/ when snow pack covers alot of stuff. Also i know backwoods bmp makes a brace for the front section now
Riding arctic cat like it's 1997
Sure, but remember Cat has given us LED lights, the Alpha, C-TEC engines, high quality shocks as standard, the Blast and all kinds of other good stuff over the years. Just can’t understand why they’re happy to be seen as a 1970’s furniture factory.
Arctic Cat was spacious back in the 90s
They need to get rid of that heavy Kitty Definitely a new display
Is there really that much weight difference these days? In any case it’s not a couple of extra pounds that makes me a moron on my sled. I get so annoyed when Polaris give dry weights for their sleds. Do they ride without gas, oil or coolant?
I want to thumbs up this video, but its at the legendary #69 likes. I dont dare. Quality content per usual.
PS: any FB post I see about the launch date I always mention the twin alpha rail set up and bold new graphics. 👍
Should come with a graphic content warning.
Bahahaha!!!!! Hilarious!
Or otherwise known as the TRIP RAIL
The 23's are out now on the net, it is literally just new stickers and nothing more, lmao
Genius!
1000 turbo alpha
I see your 1000 turbo alpha and raise you a 1000 turbo AlphaHawk.
They're putting the track up front and ski in the back, front track drive, quicker planing
@@northernbackcountryfabrica4052 We had the same genius idea and realized that the key would be to ride it in reverse.
@@northernbackcountryfabrica4052 no the skis are actually now mini tracks. its genius.
Sad but true!!!! I see Yamaha has a few teasers and from what I can tell nothing new again. Maybe Arctic cat won’t exist, they’ll just make sleds for Yamaha and small ones for doo🤷♂️I know I’ve completely lost faith in cats ability to keep up never mind innovate.
Have you tried a 22 Alpha? It really agrivates me when people say Cats are behind the competition, because they simply are not. Ive ridden with the 22 Ski doos and polaris and my cat goes everywhere they go. Weve all raced up hills and the 800 hangs right with the 850s.
I’m not brand tribal but I’ve had a good run with Cats and have a great dealer 15 mins away so I’d like them to succeed. And I’m not naïve enough to expect every brand to make everything new every year. Look at Cat’s history, even fairly recently, and there is plenty of innovation and solid engineering. Amazing riders out there doing crazy things on Cats, too. So it beats me how they manage to come across so tepid.
@@JoeyNemetz amen to that. 👆👆👆👆
@@JoeyNemetz Yep, the Cat C-TEC2 800 easily holds its own against the doopoo 850s. Great sleds. Love my Alpha!
@@JoeyNemetz no, I’m not a mountain rider, no mountains even remotely close to me. I have a fairly new 998 turbo cross country. Love the sled but it’s dated, doesn’t ride or handle as good as the competition and is missing some of the fancy do dads. I’m a cat guy, and would love to see them rise to the top and I know in order to do that they need to step up their game. That’s all I’m saying. Plus I’m soon going to need a new sled and would like the coolest thing I can get my hands on lol
Ask a spin doctor for tree felling advice and they'll tell you the tree was going the wrong direction.
And then spin it in the right direction.
@@AkatarawaJapan The right direction away from the house?
Tree Owner: “But there is no house”
SD: “All the other neighbouring properties have houses in this spot. You should have a house here. Let’s build a house!”
TO & SD: “Phew.That tree was a close call not falling on the house.”
No more engine. Powered by a brand new elephant skid. Imagine 4 time the traction. Zéro time the fun!
Here we see the power of crowdsourcing. My idea leads to your idea, and just like that we have a fully developed e-skid. I’ll send the drawings.
@@AkatarawaJapan dang another non disclosure engagement I must sign.
@@PierresAdventures 😁
Wow alot of shitting on cat for no real innovation in the last 10 yrs.shit polaris road the indy chassis hard for what 20? I'm glad to see cat still around. Imagine how boring it would be with just ski-doo and polaris building new sleds. Think about this people's livelihood depends on that plant and it staying open. You don't need smart shocks and a state of the art dash display to have fun snowmobiling.
100%. If I hated Cats I wouldn't have three in the shed.
What? Japan, what's going on here?
Y do you have a tiny ski-doo snow flap on your Arctic cat ?
It’s a little memento from the G4 I just sold.
😂😂 👍🏻
You say youll never own another arctic cat? Did i just hear you say that?
No...but I may have said there was a *chance* I didn't buy another. The Alpha and M8 I have now are great sleds any which way you look at it, and I'm keeping them. Just can't get over how Cat always comes across so half-assed. They'd be a force if they were whole-assed!
Little birdie tells me that skidoo and polaris......just don't give two shits.
I think your birdie is right. I wish Cat would make it so they do have to give two shits. Or at least one shit. Anything but the current zero shits.
Or maybe arctic cat is under attack by companies like google and being shadow banned in a way. Take this attack piece for example
Easy there, Tiger. I own three Cats and it should be obvious I’m a big fan. Please look at the long-term review of the Alpha I reference at the start of this vid if you’re not sure where I’m coming from. I just don’t get why the company is so backward in coming forward.
No camarahh.!!!!!!! No canarahh!!!!! 😂😂😂😂😂💣💣😂. Yesssssss.
He made me delete the footage but I had already uploaded it to my new Alpha Mono Mono Mono 50 inch display unit.
😂😂
@@AkatarawaJapan hell yeah buddy !!!
huh?
They really are killing themselves. They make great sleds, but everyone talks shit about them cause they haven't been brainwashed with mass amounts of marketing.
Yes. They make good things but where is Cat’s equivalent of Dan Adams doing a…passionate 30-minute soliloquy on the latest from Polaris? Who is their Dave Norona, their Carl Custer, Burandt, etc? Must be damn hard making a buck as a snowmobile OEM but it’s easy to tell who has the…passion.
@@AkatarawaJapan yeah agreed, polaris spends a lot of money on social media marketing and sponsorships.
1998 all over again
🤣🤣🤣🤣
ρ尺ｏΜ𝐎ᔕᗰ