This is definitely one of the first things I noticed when I went to Stockholm for the first time. I've been to 30 countries or so and have never heard this sound in any other language. I noticed that I hear it somewhat more prominently in women's pronunciations more than men's. Is this true?
Interesting 🤔🤔🤔. I can't think of it being more of a woman's than a man's thing. But it has something to do with socioeconomic levels and Stockholm accent vs non-stockholm accent.
Oh my god, now it makes sense! I struggled for so long and finally managed to pronounce it. No one else succeeded with explaining the sound to me. Thank you so much 💕
Yeah, definitely the hardest sound I've ever tried to master xD I never thought there'd be harder vowel sounds than the german ''ö'' and ''ü'' which also exist in french hahaha Thanks for this video, it's been really helpful
Regarding the word favorit please correct me if I am wrong The first syllable "fa" is unstressed. It is pronounced more softly and quickly, and the vowel "a" remains short. The second syllable "vor" is stressed. It is pronounced with more emphasis, and the vowel "o" in "vor" is long (stretched). Finnaly I followed by one consonent I is stretched...
Again, as I aspire to learn Swedish, here I go! I love learning foreign languages, and truthfully, I am very detail-oriented. I don't mean to boast, but I am also being honest. Honesty is better than a lie. I just stumbled on y'all's videos here, and I am a believer now, you guys! Marjorie Texas, U.S.A.
Hej Marjorie! Happy to have you with us know 😊. Hope you Enjoy the ride. And if you ever feel like exploring even more, you can check out our video courses for a more detailed and structured approach elansutbildning.teachable.com/p/the-full-beginner-suite
😅😅 You can try to be detail oriented and not to hard on yourself at the start. So that you can allow yourself some room for mistakes and trying. That will help you move faster 😁. The perfectionism is great for when you are already at lower intermediate level maybe. It will push you to go all the way and not stay where you are! If you want ALL the detials on pronunciation and more, you could check out our video courses! Starting here: elansutbildning.teachable.com/p/swedish-for-complete-beginners Or maybe getting a bundle of 3 courses at a discount 😁 elansutbildning.teachable.com/p/the-full-beginner-suite
This is by far the hardest sound to make in any language I have attempted to study*, especially right before or after an "s", as in "precis" or "apelsin". My love for Swedish keeps me from flipping the table and quit learning at this point. Thanks for the tips, though, I'll be "i"ing at home a lot while watching this over and over again. (*) Danish isn't on the list, so maybe that's why. 😆
This Lidingö-i is driving me nuts. I've started watching some Swedish series and it's sometimes all I can focus on. I've noticed how other vowels are sometimes nasal too (maybe even mostly among younger people?) like "e" in words like "hej", "tjej". The "i"s I can pronounce pretty well (though I feel a bit stupid doing it), but the "e" in "hej" absolutely not. Thanks for the explanation! I didn't realize it was a posh sound 😂 that actually gives a bit of new meaning to the series I'm currently watching.
Glad you like the explanations! Yes, it is a very special sound. Now we are curious. What Swedish series do you watch where they use a lot this "posh" sound?
@@FunSwedish Well, maybe I can't distinguish so well from the very posh i and the normal Stockholm i, but in "Bonusfamiljen" the character Lisa and in "Kärlek och Anarki" the main character Sofie both have pretty distinguished i's...
My dad is a Swede, I’m trying to relearn the language because I haven’t practice it in quite a long time and I have forgotten most of it, but *that* sound I want to master it, I know how to pronounce a nasal _i_ but still, mine sounds different. Have you got any other tips on how to pronounce it? Please
Could you please share how you pronounce it nasal? I try to put my tongue and mouth like in the video and keep practicing, but I'm still not sure how to make it nasal.
TUSENNNN TACK!!! I've asked my Swedish friends about this and never, ever got such a clear explanation!!! As a child I also learned the posh sound for the number 7 "shue" not "hue", can you tell us about that sound? Tack snälla!!
When i watched the netflix series Young Royals i was confused about how to pronounce the name of the character Felice. Even in English dub the 'i' carries on. Now i understand that it is completely different. Thanks ❤
when i start your video .. i can't stop myself from watching the next one ...so all fyra (duck face) thumbs up ....one question about the e and i .. At SFI they taught us the reverse ..i with showing the teeth and e with a littlt sober e sound
Happy to hear that! Interesting thing about SFI. I wonder what is going on there. The big question I have then is... where in Sweden are you? 🤔 There are some regional differences, on how nasal the "i" is for example.
@@FunSwedish may be the teacher is from different part of sweden .. i am super confused about using the swedish prepositions at the moment .. when to use Po or i or att or med ..The rules doesn't describe them very well
Sometimes I hear some French people pronounce their I in the posh Swedish I. For example in « vie », « Sophie », sometimes people tend to change a little bit the « timbre » of their I sound. Just a personal observation ;)
My new Swedish girlfriend has this long "i" sound in her name. I have to practice cuz I hate not being able to say it correctly. It makes me feel bad. Thanks so much for the video. Tike to practice :)
Tack så mycket! I'm still struggling with long "i" because it's like all I can do is closer to the short "i" sound and I'm not sure how to place my tongue, but I'll keep practising :)
Great! Practice makes perfect! The tounge... if you want to go with the super posh i, is doing like a wave. Front of tongue presses against lower teeth. The middle pushes up to the top of your mouth. Hope that helps!
@@FunSwedish hey, I caught that! just now, I tried that tongue position myself, and instantly, memory did its work. I thought -- I just, for a second, THOUGHT -- I could hear the sound, albeit in my head.
Thanks for your video! Great explanation! This is the first time I finally understand what needs to be happening with the tongue while pronouncing the long i vowel. So it needs to press against the lower teeth ( I've been trying pressing it against the upper ones and it's really awkward ). I can pronounce the posh i sound now, but I have difficulties pronouncing it when a consonant, especially an l as in "bil", follows. This is probably one of the hardest words in Swedish to pronounce. How exactly is "l" in bil made - is it a "dark l" like the finishing l sound in English, as opposed to the "light", Italian l? Does the tongue touch the upper palate at all?
I f***ing LOVE how it sounds your "I". Totaly love it, I can't do it though.. but I have a couple of questions: even i hear a lot this sound, in movies and tv series, i only hear it when it comes from women, doesn't hear it never from men. maybe it's just me, i dont know
Thanks. If you come from another country then you might thing that every Swede does the nasal sound but some areas in Sweden (Like posh-Stockholm) does it even more :)
Yes! The i in Fika is extra long and nasal. Fiiiiiika. In our 100 % beginner course and in our pronunciation course we talk about it and practice these vowels a lot. Here are the links if you want to join them. Our 100 % beginner course: funswedish.teachable.com/p/swedish-for-complete-beginners Our Master Pronounciation class: funswedish.teachable.com/p/pronunciation
You are welcome ❤ In Swedish we need to put the INTE after the verb which would be KAN in the sentence "jag kan inte svenska". Hope this answers your question.
Thanks for the video! Really helpful :) I'd like to know why the "E" in "PRECIS" sounds like a short "E" sound, please. Is it because the stress is in the last syllable maybe? Then it does not matter how many consonants follow the "E"? Thanks in advance!
Glad you liked it! That's a great question. Normally when words break the rule it is because they are borrowed words. Precis is very similar to English "precise" so that's why it break the rule I would say but not 100 % syre.
Me encantó como siempre tu video! Afortunadamente la “i” sueca suena muy similar a la “i” española. Muchas gracias como siempre n.n. Saludos desde México :)
That is funny, i saw/heard that phrase and I ran it through Google translator. I think it translates…..”funny” as well………. “Jag taler inte” make more sense to me.
I have noticed that foreign women who have learned Swedish to a confident conversational level use "voice fry" all the time - I have never heard this from Swedes or even Swedish women, but I have heard it from foreign women! Moreover, this does not exist in the native language of foreign women, at least not in the majority (for example, Russian-speaking women). Of course, perhaps I have not yet had time to listen to many Swedish women, but I have not heard this except from foreign women! And I do not understand where they are taught this, what it means and why it is needed. Is this some kind of especially cool style for girls? Thank you
I feel like this is such a Stockholm perspective. As someone from Norrbotten I've always found it mildly annoying how 'i' is pronounced in Stockholm, with that insanely nasal sound. Up here there's little to no nasality, it's basically just pronounced like the English 'ee'.
Well, we are from Stockholm so its hard for us to not teach our dialect. But YOU should make a video about the dialect in Norrbotten and put it on youtube. That way we can get both perspectives.
Can you please clarify why IPA for this letter (long version) is just /i:/ which is like English "ee"? This is mentioned in Wikipedia. Is this wrong? Even the example clips they offer are different from this pronunciation. Please consider: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Swedish en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_alphabet#:~:text=The%20Swedish%20alphabet%20(Swedish%3A%20Svenska,a%20e%20i%20o%20u%20y%20%C3%A5%20%C3%A4%20%C3%B6%E2%9F%A9) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_phonology
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This is definitely one of the first things I noticed when I went to Stockholm for the first time. I've been to 30 countries or so and have never heard this sound in any other language. I noticed that I hear it somewhat more prominently in women's pronunciations more than men's. Is this true?
Interesting 🤔🤔🤔. I can't think of it being more of a woman's than a man's thing.
But it has something to do with socioeconomic levels and Stockholm accent vs non-stockholm accent.
It is definitely much more pronounced with women.
Oh my god, now it makes sense! I struggled for so long and finally managed to pronounce it. No one else succeeded with explaining the sound to me. Thank you so much 💕
I know it is super tricky. Glad it helped! 💕
Yeah, definitely the hardest sound I've ever tried to master xD I never thought there'd be harder vowel sounds than the german ''ö'' and ''ü'' which also exist in french hahaha
Thanks for this video, it's been really helpful
What about their r's😂
Google Translate for Swedish (the voice there sounds very natural and not robotic) was the first place I heard that sound!
Awesome! They are improving it all the time
Regarding the word favorit please correct me if I am wrong
The first syllable "fa" is unstressed. It is pronounced more softly and quickly, and the vowel "a" remains short.
The second syllable "vor" is stressed. It is pronounced with more emphasis, and the vowel "o" in "vor" is long (stretched).
Finnaly I followed by one consonent I is stretched...
Finally I could pronounce sound i, but I can't do it with any constant before it like bil or vi or ni
Great! 👏
Progress is progress 😁. One step at a time you will get there.
I am working on my I's Right now.
Hej! Jag ser dig från Peru 🇵🇪 tack så mycket för dina videos. 😉👍👍
Gracias a ti por tu hermoso comentario :)
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Sending, from Brasil, my gratitude to you for this video! I'll keep practicing this (apparently) impossible "i" sound hahahaha. 😘
😻. Hope it helps :)
Again, as I aspire to learn Swedish, here I go!
I love learning foreign languages, and truthfully, I am very detail-oriented. I don't mean to boast, but I am also being honest. Honesty is better than a lie. I just stumbled on y'all's videos here, and I am a believer now, you guys!
Marjorie
Texas, U.S.A.
Hej Marjorie!
Happy to have you with us know 😊. Hope you Enjoy the ride.
And if you ever feel like exploring even more, you can check out our video courses for a more detailed and structured approach elansutbildning.teachable.com/p/the-full-beginner-suite
😅😅 You can try to be detail oriented and not to hard on yourself at the start. So that you can allow yourself some room for mistakes and trying. That will help you move faster 😁.
The perfectionism is great for when you are already at lower intermediate level maybe. It will push you to go all the way and not stay where you are!
If you want ALL the detials on pronunciation and more, you could check out our video courses!
Starting here:
elansutbildning.teachable.com/p/swedish-for-complete-beginners
Or maybe getting a bundle of 3 courses at a discount 😁
elansutbildning.teachable.com/p/the-full-beginner-suite
This is by far the hardest sound to make in any language I have attempted to study*, especially right before or after an "s", as in "precis" or "apelsin". My love for Swedish keeps me from flipping the table and quit learning at this point. Thanks for the tips, though, I'll be "i"ing at home a lot while watching this over and over again.
(*) Danish isn't on the list, so maybe that's why. 😆
Let us know how that goes!
We also say "Prezis" for exact in Bolognese dialect (central-northern Italy) ad it is pronounced the same way
Jeg har fulgt dine videobidrag i lang tid med stor omhyggelighed og dedikation. Venlig hilsen fra København. 🇩🇰
SO HELPFUL!!!! i've been struggling with this, now i almost have it.
Finally! A clear explanation about that mesmerising and haunted vowel i 😜... tack så så mycket!
Glad you liked it!
Your videos are so helpful and fun following that I constantly repeat watching. Vacker. Tusen tack.
Glad you like them!
You are the best!!!!👏👏👏
Wow, thanks!😻
YOU are the best!
This Lidingö-i is driving me nuts. I've started watching some Swedish series and it's sometimes all I can focus on. I've noticed how other vowels are sometimes nasal too (maybe even mostly among younger people?) like "e" in words like "hej", "tjej". The "i"s I can pronounce pretty well (though I feel a bit stupid doing it), but the "e" in "hej" absolutely not.
Thanks for the explanation! I didn't realize it was a posh sound 😂 that actually gives a bit of new meaning to the series I'm currently watching.
Glad you like the explanations! Yes, it is a very special sound. Now we are curious. What Swedish series do you watch where they use a lot this "posh" sound?
@@FunSwedish Well, maybe I can't distinguish so well from the very posh i and the normal Stockholm i, but in "Bonusfamiljen" the character Lisa and in "Kärlek och Anarki" the main character Sofie both have pretty distinguished i's...
Tack så mycket !!❤️ Jag gillar svenska språket
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My dad is a Swede, I’m trying to relearn the language because I haven’t practice it in quite a long time and I have forgotten most of it, but *that* sound I want to master it, I know how to pronounce a nasal _i_ but still, mine sounds different. Have you got any other tips on how to pronounce it? Please
Could you please share how you pronounce it nasal? I try to put my tongue and mouth like in the video and keep practicing, but I'm still not sure how to make it nasal.
TUSENNNN TACK!!! I've asked my Swedish friends about this and never, ever got such a clear explanation!!!
As a child I also learned the posh sound for the number 7 "shue" not "hue", can you tell us about that sound? Tack snälla!!
Always great videos💙
Thank you!
When i watched the netflix series Young Royals i was confused about how to pronounce the name of the character Felice. Even in English dub the 'i' carries on. Now i understand that it is completely different.
Thanks ❤
Happy it helped. Have you seen our video about Young Royals? ❤
00:38 when i got this, i can do anything 🤣
Yes! Focus on that and eveything from then on is easy 😊
Tack för dig!
Haha så roligt att veta om den Lidingö saken!
😁
How do we know which vowel to stress ?? In favorit you got three vowels. It’s always the last vowel ?
We are going to do a video about that :)
But most times, it is actually the first vowel.
The stress is in the last vowel in loaned words.
thank you for your videos
Glad you like them!
Ótima aula 🇧🇷
Thank you so much!😊
Tack så mycket!! Grazie tante!!
when i start your video .. i can't stop myself from watching the next one ...so all fyra (duck face) thumbs up
....one question about the e and i .. At SFI they taught us the reverse ..i with showing the teeth and e with a littlt sober e sound
Happy to hear that!
Interesting thing about SFI. I wonder what is going on there.
The big question I have then is... where in Sweden are you? 🤔
There are some regional differences, on how nasal the "i" is for example.
@@FunSwedish In Stockholm ..To be exact in vallentuna ..The SFI school is in Taby
@@FunSwedish may be the teacher is from different part of sweden .. i am super confused about using the swedish prepositions at the moment .. when to use Po or i or att or med ..The rules doesn't describe them very well
That Viby i is so dang hard. As an early learner, I'm glad that it's sort of limited to Viby/Lidingö dialect haha
It seems the sound is pretty similar to “i” in French though. Like in the word “irisé” or “idiot”. Without the posh sound though.
Awesome! Always great to have something to relate it to :)
Sometimes I hear some French people pronounce their I in the posh Swedish I. For example in « vie », « Sophie », sometimes people tend to change a little bit the « timbre » of their I sound. Just a personal observation ;)
My new Swedish girlfriend has this long "i" sound in her name. I have to practice cuz I hate not being able to say it correctly. It makes me feel bad. Thanks so much for the video. Tike to practice :)
Tack så mycket! I'm still struggling with long "i" because it's like all I can do is closer to the short "i" sound and I'm not sure how to place my tongue, but I'll keep practising :)
Great! Practice makes perfect!
The tounge... if you want to go with the super posh i, is doing like a wave.
Front of tongue presses against lower teeth. The middle pushes up to the top of your mouth.
Hope that helps!
@@FunSwedish Thank you very much! I'll try not to sound that super posh, though 😁
@@FunSwedish hey, I caught that! just now, I tried that tongue position myself, and instantly, memory did its work. I thought -- I just, for a second, THOUGHT -- I could hear the sound, albeit in my head.
We have the Swedish I sound in Italian and we are good about it Really 😃🍀
Maybe we took it from you! :)
really?? where?
Thanks for your video! Great explanation! This is the first time I finally understand what needs to be happening with the tongue while pronouncing the long i vowel. So it needs to press against the lower teeth ( I've been trying pressing it against the upper ones and it's really awkward ). I can pronounce the posh i sound now, but I have difficulties pronouncing it when a consonant, especially an l as in "bil", follows. This is probably one of the hardest words in Swedish to pronounce. How exactly is "l" in bil made - is it a "dark l" like the finishing l sound in English, as opposed to the "light", Italian l? Does the tongue touch the upper palate at all?
I work with some girls from Stockholm who pronounce the "Viby I" even when speaking English lol. They sound like Gollum
When you say ...ja fika är bäst
I didn't hear you pronounce är
I play it many times but I couldn't hear är
Can you please explain this point??
Great question! I have the Stockholm accent and sometimes the "är" becomes more an "é" sound. Fika é bäst :)
So fun! Thank you
Is pronouncing I similar to how Japan pronounces I?
Honestly you're the best ❤️❤️ it's very helpful tack så mycket
Happy to hear that! ❤️❤️
I f***ing LOVE how it sounds your "I". Totaly love it, I can't do it though.. but I have a couple of questions: even i hear a lot this sound, in movies and tv series, i only hear it when it comes from women, doesn't hear it never from men. maybe it's just me, i dont know
Great video! is the nasal Lidingo i sound a general thing around Sweden? does the i change in other regions?
Thanks. If you come from another country then you might thing that every Swede does the nasal sound but some areas in Sweden (Like posh-Stockholm) does it even more :)
Jag alskar din kanal. Tusen tack!! ❤🙌
How exactly do you make this "i"? Is it something having to do with the tongue?
Curious.
😘😘 Marjorie
If you have ever tried to learn the pronounciation of the Russian ы the swedish i is pretty close to it.
Very clear...confusing sometimes BUT she is quite clear when explaning🤔🤔🤔🤔😂😁
Glad it was helpful!
i still cant get the hang of iiiiiiii lol, feels like I need to turn my voice inwards on itself to get it right
I have been recently struggling with saying Fika (the cultural activity) vs Ficka (as in Pocket)! Is there an easy way to differentiate them?
Oh, you just responded my same doubt later on in the video! I love this course! Deff gonna take it when I feel more prepared!! ❤❤❤❤
Yes! The i in Fika is extra long and nasal. Fiiiiiika.
In our 100 % beginner course and in our pronunciation course we talk about it and practice these vowels a lot. Here are the links if you want to join them.
Our 100 % beginner course: funswedish.teachable.com/p/swedish-for-complete-beginners
Our Master Pronounciation class: funswedish.teachable.com/p/pronunciation
Thank you ❤
I've a question,how come this sentence means I can't speak English!
_Jag kan Inte svenska?
Where is the verb speak in that sentence ?
You are welcome ❤ In Swedish we need to put the INTE after the verb which would be KAN in the sentence "jag kan inte svenska". Hope this answers your question.
@@FunSwedish Jag tror att vi pratar om det saknade verbet "tala".
Thanks for the video! Really helpful :) I'd like to know why the "E" in "PRECIS" sounds like a short "E" sound, please. Is it because the stress is in the last syllable maybe? Then it does not matter how many consonants follow the "E"? Thanks in advance!
Glad you liked it! That's a great question. Normally when words break the rule it is because they are borrowed words. Precis is very similar to English "precise" so that's why it break the rule I would say but not 100 % syre.
@@FunSwedish Thank you :)
Me encantó como siempre tu video! Afortunadamente la “i” sueca suena muy similar a la “i” española. Muchas gracias como siempre n.n. Saludos desde México :)
Muchas gracias por tu comentario! Y que bueno que la sientas fácil. No todo tiene que ser difícil 😊
Tack🌹🌷🌺
I keep trying to get this sound right, but I just end up sounding like Stitch from Lilo and Stitch 🤦🏻♂️ 😑 some day I will get it right!!!
Well... actually... that is not that bad 😁.
You will sound like the posher end of the spectum. But Stitch could be great at Swedish 😂
How come Swedish women are more nasal when pronouncing this? I’ve noticed not a lot of men sound nasal like that but can’t seem to figure out why
That is a good question. You are not the first one saying this. Not sure why.
This vowel is what makes Swedish sound like Stitch (from Lilo and Stitch) trying to speak a weird version of German with mashed potatoes in his mouth
This i sound also somehow exists in Lebanese Arabic dialects, but only seen girls do it
Wow, that's so interesting. I wish I could hear it
tack så mycket jätte bra
Kul att du gillar det! Tack :)
I hear an "L" in "fika". It sounds like "Fiiilka" to me. Am I hearing it wrong?
That is probably the very nasal i sound 😊
Jaw breaker sound😅. I can't still pronounce it although I've tried a lot😭
"Jag kan inte svenska"
I C A N ' T S W E D I S H . H J Ä L P .
I hope the videos are helping :)
That is funny, i saw/heard that phrase and I ran it through Google translator. I think it translates…..”funny” as well………. “Jag taler inte” make more sense to me.
I have noticed that foreign women who have learned Swedish to a confident conversational level use "voice fry" all the time - I have never heard this from Swedes or even Swedish women, but I have heard it from foreign women! Moreover, this does not exist in the native language of foreign women, at least not in the majority (for example, Russian-speaking women).
Of course, perhaps I have not yet had time to listen to many Swedish women, but I have not heard this except from foreign women!
And I do not understand where they are taught this, what it means and why it is needed. Is this some kind of especially cool style for girls?
Thank you
I noticed them saying I in a strange way, like mocking someone :D or like ewwww :D
You soo beautiful ❤️ and I like your video's
Glad you like them! ❤️
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Du e jätterolig att kolla på, skönt att du inte lär dem lidingö-i:et
Kul att höra! Haha, nä bara varnar dem för det 😅
I feel like this is such a Stockholm perspective. As someone from Norrbotten I've always found it mildly annoying how 'i' is pronounced in Stockholm, with that insanely nasal sound. Up here there's little to no nasality, it's basically just pronounced like the English 'ee'.
Well, we are from Stockholm so its hard for us to not teach our dialect. But YOU should make a video about the dialect in Norrbotten and put it on youtube. That way we can get both perspectives.
@@FunSwedish In my opinion, the "i" of northern Sweden sounds very nice.
Swedish "i" sounds like Stitch. Can you say "can I have a cheeseburger please"?
I sounds french tbh
My bf is pissed i can't hesr the difference..
You will get there with time. Now you at least know the logic and cant start paying extra attention 😁
This is like the equivalent of trying to learn «ы» in Russian haha
Interesting!
I heard that this sound is an unnecessary vocal affectation and it is not necessary in Swedish. It’s such an awful sound.
Can you please clarify why IPA for this letter (long version) is just /i:/ which is like English "ee"? This is mentioned in Wikipedia. Is this wrong? Even the example clips they offer are different from this pronunciation. Please consider: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Help:IPA/Swedish en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_alphabet#:~:text=The%20Swedish%20alphabet%20(Swedish%3A%20Svenska,a%20e%20i%20o%20u%20y%20%C3%A5%20%C3%A4%20%C3%B6%E2%9F%A9) en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swedish_phonology