Arthas takes up Frostmourne and kills Mal'ganis (Reforged)
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- These are actually really good! Why can't all of the in-game cutscenes of Reforged be like this?
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arthas' stab is cool but mal'ganis' dying is not cool lol he just floats like really? xD
He's a dreadlord, he simply returned to the Twisting Nether, thats why he go all floaty
Holy shit that is hilarious hahaha it's so bad
@@swarmling4017 exploding into bats was a way better animation tho
@@Hiken_Bakuzan go make it then
@@z3692 It was already made in 2002 when the original WC3 came out
2:30 Malganis: “I must go. My planet needs me”
Technically, yeah. He returned to the Twisting Nether.
@@Tallborn5 you clearly don't watch the simpsons...
Deluxe 10 ive seen 100s episodes of dimpsons but didnt catch it
I took this comment and others saying the same thing and ran with it. A video of this was made on my Twitter just for fun XD
Apparently arthas stabbing him in the nuts makes him float back to the twisting nether
The dissonance between good graphics and blank faces makes it less immersive than original where characters faces had less than 10 poligons.
They should have added more animations for the portraits just like the ones in sc2 do.
I think it's also because the mouths aren't matching the words - they're just yapping up and down with this unspecified "speaking" motion. Presumably that's so they can use the same animations when they dub it into other languages.
I really find it heartbreaking how much more soul the old portraits had.
@xyzt I'm almost certain these are the original voices
I never played any of the two, which one would you recommend? I dont really care much about graphics, just wanna get into Warcraft.
Am I the only one who thinks something is missing from the scene, when Arthas takes up Frostmourne?
In the original the blade lands next to him and we see Arthas throwing his hammer away. For me it always held a great symbolic value. By casting his warhammer away Arthas took his 'final turn' from being a paladin of the silver hand as well for he is motivated by vengence.
He did drop it, just not swing it
@@DrRhyhm Well, yeah but it sorta just slips out his hand. It does not reflect the emotions it used to.
He actually drops it before the blade even shatters now.
In the original, he raises the hammer when he starts to speak, casting something. Then Frostmourne, still encased rises in the air, and begins to vibrate. When the case shatters, it flies apart, and one of the parts hits Muradin, killing him.
Then the blade lands next to Arthas, embedded in the snow, and as he curls his fingers around the hilt, you can see a smirk on his low-poly face.
The Reforged scene is technically more competent, but it totally loses the little nuances.
Yes, here he reaches almost unconsciously.
In the book he tries to save the dwarf, feeling the light for the last time come to his aid, and chooses to pick up the sword from the ground instead, leaving dwarf man to die and sealing his own fate.
2:25 Oooohhh! Right through his Family Jewels
And that twist. I feel his pain.
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Wow this is amazing but blizzard is the best
@@Sarge7 not any more
@@Sarge7 dude wtf you can't just call people retard and also it's becuz how the character development went down hill like thrall slyvanas arthas Lich king furion
@@Sarge7 reforged was ok I guess I didn't like how the dread Lord die though
That twist after the stab... brutal
Well, at least some people did their work
Just shows what could have been. The studio that made the models and new animations clearly did their job, Blizzard didn't...
And Malganis flying away... Just "great"
Stab was good, but him floating into the air was weird. I miss him exploding into nothingness.
@@filipvadas7602
Studio: "Okay, Blizzard, here are ALL of the new models that you've outsourced to us to remake. They are hyper-detailed and ready to be used for the best cinematic animations possible."
Blizzard: "Imma move them like stiff, unexpesssing figures."
Studio: "...uh...Blizzard? Did you hear us? These models are so detailed that you can make them do practically any expression and movement with just some pupetteering using movement software and-"
Blizzard: "Bla bla, whatever. Here's the pay now let me do my thing."
Studio: "...holy shit those idiots are going to put these models to waste, aren't they?"
Arthas kills mal'ganis
Mal'ganis : i ain't going hell fool *floats* into heavens
Shadowlands..lol
In the original script Arthas says "I am so tired" after he kills Mal'ganis and before he goes into the frozen waste.
Too bad they didn't let it in...
He never says that in the actual game tho, it's just a unused dialogue that Blizzard forgot to remove (And somehow played it in the cutscenes) when the game released in other regions lol.
*Mal’Ganis stabbed and floats away*
“Mal’Ganis died on the way back to his home planet.”
2:29 LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOL no explosion, no bats?? Wtf they were thinking with that abominable animation???
NoShitMr ahahaha omg this game looks like that leaked wolverine footage some years back where the effects hadn’t been added yet
I feel the same, dont they think about the old animation? I mean like comparing each other before release
Because (i also hate this) Mal ganis didn't die that die
arthas turning like a fucking robot makes me laugh so hard 2:25
I get the feeling that the devs clearly tried to deliver the game that was promised, but either had their budget cut or their dev time.
I mean making character models this detailed takes a lot of time and effort, but it looks so unpolished and messy
They outsourced the model design, so I really don't know why they didn't have time to put some time into the rest of it like this.
It just hurts seeing this
They should also have outsourced everything else. It's clear Blizzard can't do a right thing now if their lives depended on it.
@@Abelhawk thats what I mean, the people they outsourced to clearly did their fucking job. Blizzard didn't and its a shame.
Cause if this was literally warcraft 3 with better graphics and animations while keeping all the old features intact I wouldn't have minded.
But no, they gutted half the old multiplayer features and basically destroyed all the fun in Custom games with that agreement
@@filipvadas7602 oof
mal'ganis: *gets stabbed
also mal'ganis: aight imma head out
Why didn't the dreadlord burst into bats? Looks awful.
Yeah
Too expensive to animate.
@@SwissSareth too expensive to just copy the old animation and add more detail to the bat models? Really? What's the point of this remaster then? To get money from fans without doing much?
@@Demetrius900000 yes.
*Arthas Stabs Malganis*
Also Arthur: It is finish😐
*Walks away like nothing happen*
2:35 "I'm so tired..."
Man... I am confused. This is Arthas's unused line of dialogue from that mission.
Did you look in the files, actualy heard that in gameplay or it's just a coisidence?
@@jonas8588 Abelhawk made a human quotes video. In these videos, he also mentions unused quotes from the campaign and he noticed that this line is still used in other languages like Spanish or French but not in the English one.
@@arcturus64 yeah, im spanish and without that dialogue it doesnt feel right somehow
So small,and so significative ....this line tells so much about how Arthas felt in his last moments before slowly loses his mind.......
So basically the only part of the game that has some effort put into it its Arthas's story
...somewhat
More or less for what I've seen. Inl at the end of the scourge campaign right now.... Well Arthas is the main character after all. But I'm really thinking something happened during the project and they had to rush some things.
@@RX-NoName Even in the original Warcraft 3 ?
Please everybody report lip-synch, face expressions as a bug on forums so they see it as a bug.
"It is finished"
Wish I could say that about Reforged
I hope they keep working on it until it has the polish Blizzard was known for, Warcraft 3 deserves it
@@mrDjuroman hate to break it to you, but they just wanted to make a quick buck out of some crap Unreal Engine models and after banning and cutting everything that made WC3 what is was in the old days.
Damn the facial animations are so stiff, like for example when Arthas shouts "Damn the men!" his face just looks so neutral, like you can't see any emotion flow trough his face at all, he is just moving his mouth and blinks and occasionally raises his brows which pretty much seems like a loop to me. This is really disappointing esepecially when you know what they are capable of after seeing the cinematics they released in past.
It was all WIP
I'm assuming they were going to put on final touches but seems like higher ups decided to just scrap it
@@zytha2890 "So that was a f&&king lie."
When you realize he was actually talking about The Jailer
Yeeeeeees,I know
No.
Fuck that retcon bullshit. He was talking to Ner'zhul.
@@julespulp214 Yeah,Mal'ganis is naming Ner'zhul Dark Lord of The Dead....clever.
@@paslaruflorin-alexandru9088 thats exactly what it is.
Mal'ganis: "I have to go now, my planet needs me"
**mal'ganis died on the way back to his home planet**
You liked this Abel?? The camera is all wonky and they don't even have it focused on the right individuals?? And then he gets beamed up to his mothership instead of dissipating like an og Dreadlord? I was cry laughing when I was watching this cutscene for the first time.
Yeah, him floating up like that was pretty hilarious, but at least the animations were unique. Arthas turning around reaching out to the spirits, the stab and twist... Compared to the Culling when he just stands there boredly hefting his hammer as he yells "TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!" this was at least an improvement on the original.
Yeah the part where Mal'Ganis goes "The Twisting Nether needs me" and floats up into the sky destroyed this cutscene, which, to note, is like, the one cutscene they actually imrpoved...
@@Abelhawk The stab was pretty cool, but it was ruined by the camera work and the death animation :/ I'm so bummed man. Feels like someone just took a steamy shit on my childhood.
Let's no forget that it isn't even a normal mother ship recall, it it's a spinny mother ship recall
The original where he used his book and hammer to actually channel the spirits and free the sword from it's trap is actually much better than this!
I just noticed that some effects are outdated...
Like?
@@DrRhyhm the fog, the beam thingy that killed muradin etc.
Edit: also the weather effects like snow, wind, etc.
they are actually worse. in the original an ice shard pierces muradin and the dreadlord bursts into bats instead of being lazyly moved out the frame.
You can see the shift from Arthas, from "I would gladly bare any curse to save my people" to "damn the men, nothing shall prevent me from having my revenge".
Was it really to save his own people or for his own selfish revenge?
Revenge for what?
@@jermaine2712 revenge from malganis
I think it's both
He started saying his true purpose,salvation for his homeland,but the Revenge Is for what he had to come throught,since Stratholme,for all he have Lost because of Malghanis....that's quite human...
Both
I am glad they re-forged it because more people will play it again. But the over detailed models give me an uncanny valley vibe. Especially with the close-ups and zero lip-synching. It's a little creepy when you make what were essentially cartoons too realistic.
The problem is that although the model looks good, the animation is not kept updated. It feels so wonky and unnatural. For example, 2:21, Instead of turning back, he slid around (look at the legs and feet). It was fine for the 90s and 00s but it feels so out of place now.
Muradin wearing heavy armor and still died from ice cubes.
It's not even an ice cube but some sort of ice breathe lol
The reasoning behind Reforged is that Activision Blizzard saw an opportunity and a collection of enthusiastic players they could exploit. Yes, unfortunately it had to be Reforged. But these cutscenes show that at least the Devs cared enough to improve something despite the company saying "Milk them dry"
Dont blame the devs, blame the executives!
PRECISELY!
There is so much detail in the new models its clear that they wantes to bring people they game that was promised. But it was either rushed out or had its budget cut
Activision and Blizzard split up.
Exactly my dude
2:00 Clearly not everyone got filled in the detail that they were making a new thing that camera looks just like in the old game
Also arthas voice has less inflection than a robot (maybe its the english version)
imagine arthas breaking characther and starting to laugh his ass off at the way malganis died
If Jaina was a warlock instead a mage, she could simple store Arthas soul in one soulstone.
More like Blizzard makes reforged and kills childhood
A so easy damnation isn't enough for a strong heart.
An heart that knows well what is the alternative.
So Muradin dies for no reason, because there's no ice shard to impale him? Disappointing.
that's because he didnt die, hes alive in WoW
It's a tiny little detail made for WoW, as Muradin didn't die but got KOd but the shockwave and Arthas didn't bother checking how he was doing due to getting his soul nabbed at that moment.
@@joshuakim5240Well in the book arthas actually checked on muradin and even tried to summon the last bits of the light that he could muster, in order to heal muradin but just before he could put his hands on the wound frostmourne came floating in and interrupted arthas and by doing so taking away that last glimmer of hope that was left for arthas returning home and forgetting about all that runeblade buisness.
@@wight4991 He's now Corrupted, taken over by the Blade..jailer in Shadowland.
Malganis's death might of been lousy but this cinematic trumps the original. The way malganis walks around arthas as it pans and zooms and how the camera gets closer to malganis as he asks arthas. And how arthas is behind his back at the start. Those shots are far better than the original which is just them standing in thesame spot with thesame camera shot. And the raining isn't ruining the background music. And the silly exaggerated running arthas doesn't do as he walks away or attacks malganis. He looks far more epic here as he walks away with pride. His attack here also is far better. The way he stabs him. The appearance of their models is also very impressive. This really is overall a better cinematic. When he got frostmourne here it looked better too. The way his hair changes colour compared to the original which didn't. Its just one thing malganis's death that looks silly and the second which is their mouth not moving in sync 100% boo hoo. Wow well guess what guys? Boo hoo its just two small things when there's like 10 better things in the video than the original so who cares? There's a real hakkar virus out there called covid so who cares? You need to prioritize what's worth worrying about. If it's a big thing like if you lost money from the stock market then sure. And its alright to criticize and point out faults but when you go overboard over tiny things and take it personally and talk like it bothered you alot then it means you are a spoilt little brat that takes life for granted. The next thing youre going to do is cry like a little girl about if your 3090 gpu dies or if you had a car crash and your car is damaged. WHO cares. All that matters is you didnt get covid. That's the most important thing. You didn't lose an arm or you didn't lose your brain from some disease. Dont you even stop to think why they made malganis's death less grotesque? Maybe you should appreciate the fact they are smart and knew and just caretaked for you to make the death less gruesome because with lower pixels a gruesome death is not as bad. Yes they could of made a less gruesome death by making him turn into bats without any blood spraying but still. I understand why they thought that way. They cared for you personally by making it not so graphic. And lip syncing isn't impossible to fix. Boo hoo. The graphics might of sucked for its time but it's still an improvement. Yes the original wc3 had better graphics and cinematics for its time but this game has notably better cinematics. But not comparing to the original real life cinematics which were insane for back then. Like arthas freeing the lich king or destroying lordaeron etc.
I think a good improvement would have been that Mal'Ganis would not rise to the skies after he died. But falling on the earth after the strike and being engulfed by fel or some kind of magic. That would explain him being transmitted back to the Twisting Nether.
bruh the way Muradin runs at the first part lol
So Malganis just floats away? Smh...
Arthas is so fucking scary but cool at the same time when he wielded frostmourne
AHHHH 😆😆 I LOVE HIM
Animations aside, better lighting would've made this scene really work...
Rip Muradin
He not dead.
@@tsengelsgamingpage3788 he is
Fuck the retcons and fan service. Muradin died there.
This scene needs a hurricane quality movie cinematic
Did that man just float away not even fly just float…
Mal'ganisfat: I must go now young Prince Arthas.
*My Planet fitness needs me* 2:30
Power demands sacrifice, now we wait for the surge of good games, at the cost of this.
Lich King: Goooood, Arthas, good! Kill him.
Arthas: ... I shouldn't.
Lich King: Kill him now. >:)
Mal'ganis: ???
Lich King: DEW IT!
I like how There's no Warcraft that shows any reaction to the dreadlords deads from the killers perspective
When in truth they look more alive
The original version was 1000 Times better
But this version is at least 10 times funnyer xD
@@manolgeorgiev9664 True.
Honestly, if I've tempered my expectations and Blizzard had not hyped up the game so much or caused such an uproar with their EULA, I'd be perfectly content with this.
It's pretty much the same sequence in W3 which should be enough for me. But since Blizz pitched this as a complete reimagining I was expecting a more cinematic showing of a pivotal moment in Azeroth's history. But no extra lines nor any additional scenes. At the very least, I wish this remaster would redo Muradin's death because when I got to this part as a kid I was so confused. Arthas may have left him to die but it didn't sell to me that Arthas had sacrificed or betrayed Muradin.
Also, if it were $10 cheaper. I paid $40 for a reskin.
2:26 And I thought Anakin Skywalker's execution of Count Dooku was harsh...
Wanna know why I hate Warcraft reforged?
0:02 Their face expressions are blanked and their head doesnt move too much always when they talk just like in the old Warcraft three
at first this was bothering me too but now I don't see this as a problem, that's better actually, more realistic, when you talk you don't move your head arround like a mad x)
@@Pico_Senpai well atleast they talk with their mouths open now in the cutscenes
@@Pico_Senpai Yes... realistic... in a world full of magic and goofy stuff
@@darykeng it's not because it's magic and goofy that when they talk they all seem dumb x)
@@Pico_Senpai Maybe, but this kind of movement needlessly for sitting and scene exposition. It like going to theater and actors just speak with straight face
Aaand, I think, I wouldnt touch moment that not ALL people just standing steel - some just cant not use their arms and gestures while speaking
they forgot to sneak in the '' you and i are the same '' trope
Dark Lord == the Jailer == the Primus
Mal'ganis just yeet away after stabbed
Damn the Men💀...moment he stop to be a paladin 😭
Sir are you aware of what's happening to blizzard right now? I hope you have another PC cause it seems people reported that this ver. has tons bugs and missing features alongside with it merging with the old war3 it seems.
Hope you'll still have fun regardless of all this corporate crap.
I would say the $30 I payed for this game were worth for watching Arthas stabbing at Malganis balls, but it really didn't...
Little did Arthas know Mal'Ganis worked for the jailer and relived in Shadowlands.
The cinamatic looks great, but it has one problem. The frostmourne in the zoomed out shot at the start looks weird, like a completely different sword. The Cross-Guards don't seem to be visible and instead of the goat head, it looks like a snake wrapped around the sword. Maybe it's just the bad angle, but it looks completely different
Warcraft 3 - uncanny valley
The graphics are good, But It lacks something I just don’t know what
some facial expressions on the characters? maybe the head bobbling from the original?
TMC Productions
To be honest Yea and more details would be fine, Probably like more serious gestures.
Life?Feelings??:(
Behold, Muradin, our salvation, Obanium
Arthas was right you tools; "Now I call out to the spirits of this place, I will give anything or pay any price, if only you will help me save my people." If you think about it the cost was great yet Humanity survived, even if the cost was great. If he didn't do what he did I'am certian it would be only a matter of time before Humanity meets it's end. Basically my point is Humans wouldn't be playable in WoW. Arthas is him.
The short delay of muradin's death doe... while the blade doesn't land straight in front of arthas... this is more of a bad attempted remake than a remaster...
Haaaaa~ my missing childhood games. I Miss them😭
I actually feel like it gets better the further we go, did you see Sylvanas becoming a banshee by now? :D
What's your opinion on reforged so far? I was really excited to watch your videos with it, but the whole drama surrounding reforged has been a big downer. I'm disappointed with blizzard tbh, it's genuinely depressing
"forget this business and lead your men home"
So malganis becomes a balloon?
I wonder what background theme song was used in this cutscene? 0:10
This scene was a good
Super cool
This game would be really fucking cool is Blizzard actually cared about making it
People who play on ladder appreciate the new refreshing looks, even if there is still room for a lot of improvement. Thr graphics have improved a lot from the Beta version. Who played the Beta and tracked progress will have noticed. The campaign has its own magic but the real beauty in WC3 is the endless possibilites for strategies and playing styles when you play against someone else. The competitive scene was still going strong in the old classic but has new potential now that Reforged is out.
WC3 is the curse. It made us sell our spirits to the dark lord Bizzard. We are stuck in eternal damnation that is wow retail and wc3 reforged.
Look how they massacred my boy
Warcraft Reforge
The remaster of Warcraft 3.
That “dark lord” is the jailer everyone sorry to spoil it!
He could have done that with a regular sword lol
so the jailer from the MAW communicated arthas in the beginning ,
I'm pretty sure the Dark Lord in this case was the Lich King.
Man I thought this is the original, its reforged one.
That just showed you never play the original game lol
I love reforged it is so good. Im at the end of the Scourge campaign. This part amazed me.
the frostmourne scene is way worse in this version u dont see the icicle piercing the dwarf
I want his mog
don't do it arthas it is cursed don't be like grom hellscream who dranked manaroths blood
When Arthas became based.
This cutscenes were awesome, when I first saw them I was really amazed. Yeah it is shamed that more of the cutscenes aren't like this but overall, cutscenes are better and it is not a huge failure
Nah the cut scenes where terrible, they promised us "reforged" cut scenes, instead we got this abomination of a game.
@@Hitoshuratdn cutscenes are better from the original, not every cutscene look awesome like this one, but they are some improvements, especially in those animations, it could be better of course, but it is not that bad, number of positives is much greater that number of negatives, the game has some bugs but instead of saying how shitty the game is, which is clearly an overstatement, we should report those bugs and help blizzard make some patches
@@Brug98 number of positives are greater than the number of negatives? OK name the positives of the game besides the graphics. Explain how it's launch day failed miserably and why it's rating is so low if there are more positives and negatives.
Explain how Blizzard used false advertising to hype up the game, stating they will reforged ever cut scenes. If Blizzard actually cared to fix bugs why did they release it in this state and why in their new customer service, fan created custom maps belong to them?
@@Hitoshuratdn new models, dodads, sounds, animations, cutscenes, some fixis from the lore and some mechanics when I played beta I thought that the reforged will be like the new remastre ofAge of Empires 2, just updated graphics but it was so much more, of course it could be better, and they are some bugs and not everything feel right but, for me it is all I wanted, I like the new maps even that is only a few of them I'm very excited to create some map with these new things in the world editor, I like that the game preserved so much from the original game , it could be better but it's definitely not a failure, new generations, new expectations, new standards in game industry, but for me it is good I would give that game 8/10
@@Brug98 first off let me say you can like a something but you can't say it's good when it's objectively flawed.
And you did not answer any of my questions. Good luck playing custom maps when it's all own by Blizzard now, nothing was persevered from the original. No DBZ tribute custom maps, no pimping, etc. www.pcgamer.com/all-your-warcraft-3-reforged-custom-games-belong-exclusively-to-blizzard/#comment-jump
I said give positive besides the graphics, which includes models lol.
No they didn't change the lore they backed out of it. www.polygon.com/2019/11/1/20944518/warcraft-3-reforged-story-retcon-world-of-warcraft-wow
It was a failure, you can like it but you can say it's good.
Now we can't even go back to the OG Warcraft.
why you gotta take me back here yt T_T rip
These cutscenes look so... goofy. Unpolished. This is supposed to be a remaster, but it feels more like a good graphics mod for Warcraft III.
seems like actual work went into this, nice though
I never got something. Death Knights are zombies or just corrupted Humans who arent dead yet but serve the undead?
@DrTheKay Ok i thought Arthas just died and becamr an undead zombie knight
Blizzard broke my Heart💔 Warcraft 3 was my first game ever because warcraft 3 i am a gamer🙄 i watched all your EditorVideos Abelhawk😣 i wantet to make my own Kampagne and now all is lost😖 and im sad, Pissed and angry😡🤬
At first I was so glad they made reforged. Honestly the graphics disturb me a lot, I can't tell whether it's good looking or creepy.
The map editor has the same policy as in Starcraft 2. Copyrighted licenses can't be used and the intellectual property of the map are Blizzard's.
But let's be honest it feels good to see these cut scenes
Weird how more cutscenes aren't like this. Oh well, at least these are great.
Malganis died and went o heaven RIP #underwhelming
where are the bats???
it's bizarre how terrible the animation is, especially consider blizzard does have the talent to produce excellent animation, the overwatch team is proof of that...
lazy and greedy company, for shame
No... People complained at Blizzcon about them changing WC3 too much, so Blizzard dialed down the animation.
Apart from everything mentioned, the new score is completely unnecessary. The original was perfect.