Amazing CHEAP 3D printed saddles from AliExpress?
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- Опубликовано: 17 окт 2024
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I am testing out two AliExpress 3D printed saddles. The Ryet 3D, which cost me $68.62 and the Zeius 3D which cost $74.97. I wanted to see if they are a viable and affordable alternative to the $300 to $500 3D saddles made by the big companies.
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I've used the Ryett Carbon saddle outside only, i found it to be really well built, but for me it was just not comfortable, maybe it's just my sit bones but i took it out on a 100km ride and on our (not so) lovely potholed British roads it felt like a jackhammer to the nethers, on the rare occasion where i found a stretch of perfectly undamaged tarmac it actually felt quite good, delivered very little vibration and felt decently comfortable. I'd recommend to anyone riding outdoors in a country that can afford to pave the potholes and properly tarmac their roads. But for me the search continues! i also got it on sale for something like £36, so for a carbon 3d printed saddle you can't really ask for more. Especially since the alternative is a selle italia/fizik/s works that will cost over £300, it's worth trying for yourself since they are so specific to individual anatomy.
Oh I had forgotten about those British roads!!!!
Have you tried bucklos 3d one?
@@jonhalda I haven't
I have have the absolut opposit experience, but our roads here in Germany are not bad. This is the first saddle i can do a 200 mile ride on, without havin to be afraid of not being able to walk the next day.
I was thinking of slapping also slapping one on my gravel bike, but overthinking iz now. Thx for testing this on the British roads.
@@66mikkim Glad you enjoy using it.
I used the ryet carbon for a year before selling it with the bike. Michigan roads were often too rocky and bumpy to enjoy this saddle, but my butt enjoyed it when I bikepacked across arkansas. They have very smooth road surfaces there. I am going to spring for a Brooks soon on my current touring bike.
Thanks for the review. I might just give it a try since it is the second time that I hear a good review on those. You seem far more prudent though than Dustin Klein was. If you try them out on a longer ride, a follow up would be greatly appreciated. Keep up the good work! 🙂
Weather permitting hope to do a 4-6 hour ride this weekend. I will let you know how that goes. Thank you for the favourable comparison to Dustin Klein, he is one of my favourites!!
I bought the Ryett saddle, so far is an awesome saddle, I ridden 60 miles no problems, I paid $47 on AliExpress. I refuse to pay $400 dollars for a saddle, it’s ridiculous. I’ve owned SMP GLIDER, Prologo saddles and the Ryett was way lighter and comfortable 👍
That is great to hear.
Hello was there the typical smell out of the box that sometimes came with carbon/plastik produkts. Greetings and many thank's for your work.
I don't really recall now. There may have been.
Hi! I am a subscriber to your channel. Really enjoyed the videos. But I have a question unrelated to this one. Have you ridden the Cataraqui trail in the Kingstom area?
Thank you Dave. I have not done it, but so many people have mentioned it to me that I plan to do it real soon.
@@cardiaccyclist7477 Thanks, I've done the g2g trail just curious if there are any bypasses I should know about when attempt this trail
Hi there I love in that area and love the trail. I have a video on my channel of part of the trail so you can take a look.
Excellent video...need more like this.....cycling gear is way too expensive.
I am all about affordable gear.
i've seen the width of this saddle is 150mm
what's your sit bone width?
mine is 120mm and this 150mm might be too wide for me.
I read that I should look for 140mm saddles, for my sit bone width
The say that the saddle should be 20mm wider than your sit bones (give or take a few mm. My sit bones are 129mm, so 150 saddle width is in the ball park. This saddle may be too wide for you, which is a shame.
The Bullocks, I think that's their name, haha, they're nice! I know a couple of guys who bought them to test from eBay and loved them. They're the same as the Specialized design and actually have different infills in different parts of the honeycomb! They're £96, but I ordered one myself to test out for £155.
Thanks for taking the time (and spending the money) for this review!
You are sooo right…saddles are very user-anatomy specific!
Looking for a new saddle to replace my tried and true Brooks…I like the idea of the pressure-relief cutout…do you notice a big difference between the standard and cut-out saddles?
Absolutely I do. It isn't necessarily for all people, but I would cautiously say that I suspect it would be for most (especially guys)
Hi . Thanks for the review. Mine has just arrived and seems great £40 including tax and delivery.
HOWEVER
My clamp doesn't fit . The rails are too high. Derr. I have a dropper post I don't want to have to part with it.
Oh that is such a shame. According to the feedback that I am receiving, you should not have too many issues returning it.
You probably have a 7mm clamp. Typically for a metal rail. If it’s a carbon post, you need a 7x9mm clamp. I learned this recently myself.
@@tomwatts22 appreciated Tom
I tried a Ryet 3D saddle and I found it really uncomfortable, instantly felt wrong when I sat on it. I now use a SDG bel air. All subjective as we know 😊.
This weekend will be the real test. I have done two hours with no noticeable discomfort, this weekend I will try for between 4 and 6 hours. If i am okay after that, i will be really happy. I will let you know
@@cardiaccyclist7477 any update to saddle sir
@@cardiaccyclist7477 so how was it?
@@titasdapkūnas I just did a 4 hour ride this weekend and it was very comfortable.
hi how was it now?
I definitely works for me. I have done several rides over 4 hours with little to no discomfort. It is more comfortable than my Fizik, which is twice the price and 100g heavier.
Both saddles look like ISM Seat ripoffs
Not being familiar with ISM Saddles, I went straight to their website to see exactly what you meant. I believe that these saddles may well rip off, or look similar to some other vastly more expensive saddles, but it is certainly not ISM.
It hurts a lot, don't waste your money with them!
Oops, already did!!! Well not true, I did not waste my money.
Bought a single product off AliExpress and never again. If was clothing and apart from the quality, lack of resemblance to the add, and the lightweight fragility of the item, there was nothing to recommend buying it if you saw it in a store. Can't imagine they would be any better any where else.
That is a shame you had issues with the one item that you brought. AliExpress is a retail service not a brand.
Aliexpress has such a big variety of stuff, so you will find lots of trash, but also some really good stuff and some good deals.
I use it mainly for electronic components and its one of the best sites for that currently.
I have also heard that the carbon frames from there are supposed to be pretty good and not too expensive.
No we don't 😁
Haha, No we don't what?
@@cardiaccyclist7477 Yes we do😁
I find it, the rare exception, that after receiving a product from AliExpress, the low price isn’t discovered to be twice its value. Originally, I thought to myself, how can they produce and ship for this low price? Then I discovered, that this product, was their scrap bin contents, that couldn’t be sold. As long as they receive more than their super low shipping cost (slow boat from China), they were ahead of the game. Since a consumer could never cost effectively return anything, there is effectively no warranty and you are stuck with the subpar, barely functional almost unusably items. Just landfill fodder.
Okay.
What are you basing this on? I've had warranty from ryet/lexon, where I've received a saddle with rails issues, they sent me a new, no needing to return or pay.
This isn't true
@charlesmansplaining I'm sorry Charles, I love to get into banter and a good discussion, but I'm afraid that I have read both of your comments twice and I don't really understand what you are saying. I would love a conversation if you want to reword them.
@charlesmansplaining I once received a broken wheel cap from Ali Express and received a replacement, free of charge. The process of claiming warranty was tedious, but was worth it.
I have gotten a refund from Aliexpress everytime I applifor it and gave a reason woth proof why I needed to get a refund. It was a smooth process so I don't know what you are talking about.
Could you just get to the point…
HAHA. No sorry, I will do my videos my way. You can always watch someone else's videos.
@@cardiaccyclist7477 twas information I was looking for, not amateur entertainment…best of luck, thank you.
@@cardiaccyclist7477 Well said😁
Where I am is always where people will be.
Theez new 3D honeycomb flexy wrldleading saddles = same basic princible behind my Rido I had back in thday 2009.
Which i'd bought 2mirror thBrooks B17. Cowhide saddle. Best seat ever made of thlast century.
Brooks 600 grams $125
Brooks with spring 3lbs 1,400 grams $160 rhats nonsense. Idiot engineering.
Brooks quality too has gone way down.
These 3D honeycomb &carbon rail saddles have flexible base like cowhide 2 mirror springs sufficiently.... &, when u consider they $18.50 a piece,,,,
Conclusion:
Now u knowhat thwrlds best bicycle seats are.
When designed correctly these seats are also newest seats pretty legendary durable2.
Thos is why u never buy in2 Satans evil demonic vintage bikes.
Here is what people dont, would never grasp:
People buy with their eyes& assumptions so they think knobby tires are an advantage so with bikes seats too they think cushioms are best.
No th best seat back in thday ridden by every tour de france rider ever lived of which thTour = thee most GRUELING test of a seat was selle Italia turbo.
Turbo had a hard SLICK cowhide surface over foam. Sorta felt like Brooks.
But ultra hard foam. Almost like no foam at all. Threality is a cushy seat will DESTROY you cit off circulation in distance riding where its superiour4 short trips.
But all thingz cnsidered when in doubt hard saddles all way all DAAAY.
They are th epicenter king.
Hard surface shiny flexible saddle.
They havent figured out yet engineering modern saddles that should be shiny slick... yet... but ofcourse they will.
And mind u these modern new carbon flexy base B67ish flexy saddles on TEMU dragging 120 grams vs Brookes 1,400 grams shoot u would need 12 of these 120g carbon saddles to equal thweight of 1 Brookes B67.
I dont need 2b lugging all that.
I think almost everyone who does a decent amount of riding realizes that cushioning does not equal comfort. I think non cyclists may assume it does.
@@cardiaccyclist7477 not so fast.
Best cushion ever made was humans muscle.
Best cushion ever made was a dogs foot. Etc. Etc.
Did u notice something else???
Correct.
Skin covering it is very thin elastic sortv like lycra.
Just as u want a thin high thread count tire carcass deform better over that rock reduce vibration transmitted 2bicycle. Vibration = gigantic energy lost.
Similarly Knobby tires will average 8mph on a 30 miler fireroads over a mt. Where slicks will average 12mph.
Few people have ever experienced a tire that deforms over road irregularities perfectly it is INSANE.
How fast it is.
There is big money in discomfort& bike suspension.... they keep u on an endless tire shopping goose chase.
Demons turn engineering in2 a endless merry go round of new & improved.
Reezn their sht always endlessly new improved is bcuz they were too dumb 2get it right th 1st time.
They deliberately gibe new stuff hidden demons 2keep th cash flow filtering.
Try a 300gram plastic or carbon flexy base saddle that mirrors Brooks with silicone gel cushion.... glued on course sandpaper taped 2 th top seat top.... topped with elastic polished shiny leather &u wont EVER have 2thank me again later. When i rob yr wallet with thnext so called "new& improved."
Clear silicone is the highest quality gel.
95% "gel" saddles arent gel. They are deliberately compromised gel.
Devils dont make money selling smthing tht wrks.
Most gels are watered down corrupted or porous.
@@TOPMOSTPOP Okay
@@TOPMOSTPOP What's this nonsense about demons and conspiricy?🤣🤣😂 You definitely belong on the internet, but maybe not here?😆
TIRES:
BICYCLE KING OF KINGS TALKS:
Tires:
I am bicycle king of kings.
Poison kings.
All manufacturing = Biblical TARE RACE. Organic hive mind portals 2Satans BEAST cmputer 95% people earth are NOT humans.
Marketing is very clever..
Cleverly corrupt if not just flat stupid as they can trick they customers 2b.
80% humans = demons. This is literal. They dont knowhathey are.
Plasticines. Nephilem spirits hive mind cnputer controlled savant idiots placed in flesh with hadron collider they control yr manufacturing. DONT let thm snake = just as days of Noah.
Comprende?
Satans kids biblical tare race.
He HATES bikes cuz they free energy.
I bought cash 2 homes commuting on.... bikes.
Bicylce king of kings version of reality = very simple I remember it well.
Michelin Select 1987 or so hands down changed my life tire.
Why? TPI.
Ever ridden a REALLY good tubular??
SPEED. Roll resist it equated2 high TPI (thread per square inch) equates 2MASSIVE cmfort = free suspension and rolls i mean FAST & TRACTION CITY.
No i mean GOOD suspension. As in delete Satans crap dually suspensions save u 3lbs.
High TPI is less weight then more durable low TPI.
Less is more.
Knobbiez & tread:
Dont wrk & never did. They4 30HP treadmill water wheels motocross bikes only.
Mud DOESNT WRK.. ..&knobbies DONT HELP.
BIKES ARE NOT FOR MUD OR VISCIOUS 28MPH SINGLE TRACK.
PERIOD.
They are point & shoot above a crawl or running speed device only 21mph or less. U dont need knobs as they slow u. Drammatically.
Bikes:
Strictly point &shoot beeline flight of th crow medium. Get it? As a rule.
Listen rubber gets traction what more do u want.
...6" spikes???
Mt. Goat feet = slicks.
Specifically DEFORMABLE slicks.
If u go adding additives decrease traction slightly double life tire so what???
"Worth it."
The tire shall be deformable.
Highest TPI 180 or plus 2.00" 26" 500gram or less with couple puncture belts. ...Continental speed slicks.
Knobs are slow????
Proof.
Cant evn bleev i have 2say this.
Knobs slow u way th &%@! down.
I averaged 12mph slicks & 8 mph knobs fireroad 12 miles up TIME TRIAL BRUTAL STRAIGHT HARDPACK DRY DOWN 45 or plus degree steep assed sht.
Knobbies & tread are 4customer appeal marketing.
Knobs & tread love 2 carefully postion road debris puncture tires.
Knobs are heavy. While th vulnerable valleys thin. Slicks = slippery armor when thorns& glass try2 find purchase & can't as easily.
Slicks& highest TPI extreme as possible deformeable carcass it all equate 2less WEIGHT & dont tight a$$ your bike with iddy biddy itsy bitsy tires either. Go large diameter 2.00 or plus Mt. Bike tire.
32- 36 PSI is the optimum. Try it sometime.
Conclusion
Continemtal Contact speed type tire lightweight slick can flat blow thpants off any other tire& in fact tires CAN be engineered much lower roll resist ...then Conti Speed.
Jump on that train let manufacactures know u want cmfy speed not a gimmick delusional tank with pressure so high it damage carcass h*ll to pump ruins pumps.
One lasthing.
E bikes:
Shall be 21mph max speed only. Tires engineered4 32mph is only a bogus step backward.
E bike should be 350 watt geared or 500 watt direct drive front only 36 watts ONLY 20 AH battery (8lbs) ideally... period kit bolted on top line pro Mt. BIke with 90mm rise bars & seat ridden much lower.
My low seat nets me 22.5mph vs 21 mph top speed flats.
Aero low CG ultra stable SAFE ultra LOW LOW LOW CONCENTRATION FATIGUE quotient stable handling with massively stable wide arms triangulation 28" to 31" handlebars. Coupled with ultra LESS caps lock weight say no to 940 gram 32mph tank tires that are dead slow like dragging a stiff bone jarring boat anchor, and boom nets u massive maneuverablity agility cmfort& speed & fuel effitientcy safety massively less fatigue..
Do knobs REALLY get more flats: That i dont know. Slicks take all th weight u paid for lay flat. Tread incorporate hollow spots = wear squirm noise vibration hence friction& surface area that packs mud& dirt.
Depends on design u would think slicks designed right thicken tread max distributed armour doesnt reduce thickness in valleys like knobs. Slick leave next 2zero perceptible tracks fireroads. Tracks take WORK 2build& work = energy hire 10 x's more ants = pay4 far more employees 2 arrange aaall those iddy biddy teeny weeny grains of sand in2 pretty oh so impressive looking knobby tracks only 2do a far (slower) job in th end now that u can take 2 thbank.
AAAAAAAA
Worlds best tire:
I test 3 tires.
I scrapped about 800 runs = 108 Official ones. Technique - became ever more refined precise. Wind pavement& ambient temps had 2b identical, tire carcass had 2b warmed up.
Cold tire drammatically crippled results especially with 2.35 ballons - 80% cycling done on hot pavement.
I timed marked measured optimum runs all
of which had 2b marked with ribbons.
I was already predicting ballon tires would be fastest on gravel hence advantageous on rough country roads = they WERE. Question: Did they prefer normal pressure 32psi or highest pressure 55psi? Had they rolled faster 30psi as I'd hoped i'd then have run thm 23psi.
2.35" CAN be run 20 psi but threality = they'll be high friction slow expensive erasers& lower pressures = easier on tubes, pumps, tire carcass& you. 50psi has u wearing out yrself& pumps fast blowing out tires.
Why I ALWAYS hold2 the traditional target of 32, 36 psi.
These epicenter ideals exist
FOR
A
REASON.
Try xplaining that 2 thpeople refuse coprehende an E Bike should NEVER.
EVER.
EVER top out over 21mph 36 volts running 350 watt front 8lb direct drive geared motor only.
Engineering:
Satans biblical "tare race."
Predominantly literally demons. Plasticines. Computer hive mind Nephilem spirits placed in flesh bodies with Hadron Collider pocketing MASSIVE cash by catering 2 delusional customers. (With mentaliy of an incredibly (stupid) 4year old.)
80% "humans" = cmputer animations.
If u want subscribe yr own passionate version of reality purchase spiked knobby tires averaging 8mph dirt. Where slicks average 12mph, then u will also achieve dreadful performance pavement.
Hardest part about this test was operating bike/stopwatch precisely& smartphones = dreadful stopwatch in 25mph. Lines had 2b chosen exactly, no traffic.. took me 700 runs just2master it.
Schwalbe Big Apple 2.35:
#1.
Drammatically SAFER, secure, grippy.
AAAAAAAAAAA
The test:
Conclusion:
Coast down pavement: This was recorded stopwatch 2 mailbox, then distance 2bike STOPS:
Continental 1.75" Road Tours went farthest on coastdown pavement (dock) @55psi AND fastest time 127:51 BUT Continentals were also LEAST distance coastdown on brutal gravel run.
Continental did 59.55 full throttle run point A to point B run.
Big Apple 2.35" 55psi then proceeded 2beat Continental coastdown pavement by 6' 6" @a LONGER stopwatch 2mailbox, strangely enough, of 131:13
Apple 55psi recorded fastest2 mailbox time by far of 125:42. (Slowest was Schwalbe 1.75 Marathon Plus 30psi @139.42)
Full throttle runs:
Big Apple was fastest @ FELT the fastest @57:01, 57:76
Schwalbe slowest 102:41 55psi& strangely, it went faster 1minute with only 30psi.
Continental recorded 58:42 30psi.
So basically here we conclude skinniest Continentals supple 128 TPI 1.75" carcass was indeed fast pavement recorded least max coastdown on gravel as also I expected& big Apple by far lomgest coadtdown also as I predicted, was hoping. We discover Big Apples durable heavier stiffer 67TPI thread count in conjunction with highly elastic supple sidewall thrived on HIGHER PRESSURES. It recorded max coastdown beat ALL tires both on pavement AND on the brutal coarse HIGH speed downhill viscious insanely dangerous gravel run.
We found that Big Apple recorded fastest uphill pavement full throttle stopwatch run@ 57.01 seconds. Versus 102:41 Schwalbe@ 55psi run. Proving here also that Schwalbe most likely doesnt prefer higher pressures bcuz Schwalbe recorded a 101:43 full throttle run with only 30psi.
After 5 more hours intense& painful exhaustive research&
a new star emerges. As far as on paper go.
Called VITTORIA BMX TATOO II.
"Tatoo" alludes supple conforming follows every contour Vittoria = rolling resistance hump racing legend Tour de France gurus.
(BMX bikes are 26" & even 29" now.)
120TPI Versus Big Apple/Ben 67TPI BUT also with more supple nylon casing has no energy robbing thick stiff flat protection like Schwalbe has.
As a result, Tatoo while its tires are bigger safer more secure 2.3, the tire registers only 650g.
Big Ben Schwalbe smaller tire 2.15" = heavier 760 grams.
Schwalbe tire = ADDIX multi purpose compound where Vittoria likely employ tackier hence elastic faster rubber compound will have effect on rolling resistance just as TPI does.
Vittoria front tire Big Ben Rear marriage = safer handling more flat protection rear.