Sprocket Geometric Internals: Closed Beta Review

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  • Опубликовано: 18 сен 2024
  • Geometric Internals is here, sort of. Early testing has begun with the moderators of Hamish's official Discord, and as a moderator myself, I was able to gain access to it! Today I'll be demonstrating the current status of the update.
    [Everything showcased in this video is subject to change as the update approaches a full experimental release]
    There's probably alot of questions as to the current status of then the full experimental release will occur. 1-2 weeks is not a safe bet - It's safe to say that it will be a few weeks out, given that many bugs need fixing and gameplay functionalities need to be restored.
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Комментарии • 179

  • @troller9838
    @troller9838 Год назад +109

    This will help with making more realistic designs, since it forces you to think about internal part/crew placement, instead of everything acting like a liquid.

    • @commandoepsilon4664
      @commandoepsilon4664 10 месяцев назад +8

      This is why I crew all of my tanks with cat people, as everyone know cats are liquid so it's entirely realistic.

    • @Highest-Ground
      @Highest-Ground 10 месяцев назад +6

      If you blend the crew into a fine slurry you can include a radio operator

    • @pogerb1649
      @pogerb1649 5 месяцев назад +1

      no shit

  • @enderjed2523
    @enderjed2523 Год назад +157

    A rougher build than what most of us were expecting, but receiving news like this does renew hope.

    • @thomasdouglas7525
      @thomasdouglas7525 11 месяцев назад +2

      yeah all the new systems were really awesome but the whole design segment hurt to watch

    • @enderjed2523
      @enderjed2523 11 месяцев назад +3

      @@thomasdouglas7525 Don’t worry, it’s been refined (from what we’ve been told), and besides, the geometric open beta is coming out on the 16th of October if I remember correctly.

  • @NikoD239
    @NikoD239 Год назад +120

    Looks sick, cannot wait to rebuld all of my tanks with this.
    Edit: Hot damn, custom mantlets, i love this already. These new customisation options are so good.

  • @g09h
    @g09h Год назад +66

    Very excited for this so I can finally build tanks that aren’t either ridiculously big or small

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +18

      small tanks are surprisingly easy now

    • @miguelgameiro8063
      @miguelgameiro8063 Год назад +3

      @@thewonderwaffleofficialI don’t think my tanks will roll i use the internal space to the max unless crew ocuppies less space my builds are screwed

    • @justancomment4279
      @justancomment4279 Год назад

      All my tanks I expect to be interwar cramped messes to operate

    • @M60A3
      @M60A3 8 месяцев назад

      I built a leopard 2a4 and the proportions are kinda correct but I compare it to other tanks and its minuscule

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 6 месяцев назад

      @Your_Average_Tank_Fan wait no longer!

  • @staticaleel5068
    @staticaleel5068 7 месяцев назад +5

    I like how similar this is to war thunders X-ray view. It’s very good at providing a sense of scale seeing the crew, equipment, and ammunition in clear view

  • @angelking231
    @angelking231 Год назад +49

    If i may make a suggestion:
    It would be cool if there was also the need to put a radiator for the engine.

    • @thundergroup
      @thundergroup Год назад +11

      i hope sprocket eventually will be war thunder + more features (custom ammo etc) + self made tanks, will be rad af

    • @sultan4d169
      @sultan4d169 Год назад +6

      @@thundergroup custom shells will be in 2024

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Год назад

      ​@@sultan4d169hopefully its in depth, i wanna make an OP APFSDS

    • @danb4900
      @danb4900 11 месяцев назад

      ​​@@sultan4d169Really badly need APDS and HEAT to make cold war tanks, at the moment you are ball clenched by shitty WW2 AP

    • @snipershot6014
      @snipershot6014 10 месяцев назад +2

      Will you have the ability to check your internals while fighting like in war thunder cause that'll be pretty cool to see what's damaged inside you tank as you fight

  • @danb4900
    @danb4900 Год назад +20

    Internal armor plating would be nice and that could be used in very cheeky fashion to protect individual crew members. In addition you are going to have to be more careful with ammo and crew placement. You could perhaps create some jank shit where you exclusively protect the gunner so that he cant be killed even though the tank can be penetrated.

    • @kwyoushyt6356
      @kwyoushyt6356 11 месяцев назад +5

      These are the main factors by which I am VIVIDLY shaking on my chair, awaiting the update
      I want my jank composite internal armour and Updated spalling mechanics SOOO BAAADDD
      I really hope ham ham revises the way spalling and damage works, so that I can't be simply killed by the enemy shooting at my freeform "fender" which the game counts as internal space
      I also want aphe to be scalable with caliber, because 18 000mm penning LASER MACHINEGUNS Calibre 2mm are geting quite stale

  • @roguegen5536
    @roguegen5536 Год назад +11

    I am suddenly in fear for my light tanks!
    Lol, thanks for the peak into the Beta.

  • @antoniopop1431
    @antoniopop1431 Год назад +33

    Finnally i ca put vents in front of the tank and not losing my engine

  • @umxmarky
    @umxmarky Год назад +8

    cant wait to play with internals i feel that was the bit i was missing the most

  • @maxjames8422
    @maxjames8422 Год назад +5

    This update will definitely help me improve my tank designs

  • @MyCrafcik
    @MyCrafcik Год назад +4

    This actually looks really good. I might consider buying it now

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      Definitely! The 0.1 version is still a ton of fun, everything in this video is about 10% of what you can do in the current releases of Sprocket.

  • @WhatIsSanity
    @WhatIsSanity Год назад +9

    Aww yeah I can already imagine the abominations I can make with this. 🤩

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +11

      Wrap the driveshaft around the tank for extra armor

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 Год назад +4

      @@thewonderwaffleofficialOh goodness… that is so genius and cursed.

  • @yurilicious2830
    @yurilicious2830 Год назад +5

    this transmission gearing still actively haunts my thought process

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      Try my gear calculator website here! sprockettools.github.io/TopGearCalculator.html

  • @IronSink
    @IronSink Год назад +2

    Hope it will release before end of the year

  • @connorross7349
    @connorross7349 Год назад +5

    Nice, I am building a Mk.III crusader cruiser at the moment. I've been playing for a while and I can Say I love the game, I would always come home and see what the sprocket discord sever was doing, I would always want to suprise everyone with my builds. I am going to play now acully. I am happy for an update, thank yall for the hard work, Much love and luck with your roadmap!
    -connor

  • @Random_YouTuber2008
    @Random_YouTuber2008 Год назад +2

    This looks hella good. There are a few things I would need to research later once the experimental version is out as Im a bit dumb with engines and stuff.

  • @jonsouth1545
    @jonsouth1545 Год назад +7

    I used the tool for calculating gears it saves time over my normal method but I think the calculations are slightly off as my normal ratios are usually about 5-10kph faster without any loss in acceleration or climbing, but it does create very acceptable transmissions without all the fine tuning

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +4

      It’s meant to undershoot the top speed just a tiny bit, as it helps improve acceleration closer to the top speed by calculating that way.

    • @Bruce-Van-Der-Linde
      @Bruce-Van-Der-Linde Год назад +1

      ​@@thewonderwaffleofficialWill you upload another video about the update soon?

  • @mohsaid
    @mohsaid Год назад +7

    27:36 seems like the in game mantlet doesn't even move with the barrel, another bug to fix

    • @strelnagaming
      @strelnagaming Год назад +2

      Yeah that definitely looks... interesting, to say the least

  • @gpziprd
    @gpziprd Год назад +1

    hope fully they add stabilizers or composite armour in some update becasue that would be really cool but now we have the warthunder x ray mode unlocked so thats cool

  • @seranonimo6770
    @seranonimo6770 Год назад +2

    Oh I like where this is going

  • @flameendcyborgguy883
    @flameendcyborgguy883 Год назад +4

    So... Tetris time shall aproach us?

  • @commandoepsilon4664
    @commandoepsilon4664 10 месяцев назад +1

    That all looks really good, obviously there are some bugs still, but they'll find and squish those but soon enough!
    Also your tank decorating skill are impressive, I really like that engine deck. I never would have thought to even try anything like that and it looks fantastic! Though I do not envy the mechanic that is going to need to handle the maintenance on the monstrosity of a drive shaft you put in there. XD

  • @Iden_in_the_Rain
    @Iden_in_the_Rain Год назад +5

    Right off the bat the only thing I really have to say about the new system is that the guys in the tanks are pretty skinny, not sure how accurate it is for people in military garb/armor. But ultimately it makes us builders’ lives easier so I’m all for it

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +4

      Crews now take up 1/10th the space they used to, its very nice

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain Год назад +1

      @@thewonderwaffleofficialit is kind of funny to imagine floating blobs of flesh piloting and fighting in our tanks

    • @ThunderPanzer
      @ThunderPanzer Год назад +5

      It should be decently accurate since tanker's clothes aren't particularily bulky compared to their infantry counterparts. One thing I wonder is if they'll add a crewmen height slider, for when your tank is so small only shorter people can crew it lol

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Год назад +5

      Those are called starved soldiers,very efficient!
      -Joseph Stalin

    • @Iden_in_the_Rain
      @Iden_in_the_Rain Год назад +2

      @@ThunderPanzer finally us short folk will conquer the lumbering giants of the world /j

  • @bendiehl7327
    @bendiehl7327 Год назад +4

    my big question is how would this effect sideways turrets to make custom mantlets.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +4

      They still work

    • @Mango_Boi
      @Mango_Boi Год назад +1

      From what I see in this video, you can just attach some parts onto the barrel to make the custom mantlet, Though it won't have some of the advantages a turret provides.

  • @popinmo
    @popinmo Год назад +2

    this game needs more realism + multiplayer and id have to buy it

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +4

      I mean, perfectly simulating things like this is hard. Multiplayer is slated to arrive in about 2 years.

    • @abas656thegodemperor9
      @abas656thegodemperor9 Год назад +1

      ​@@thewonderwaffleofficialthats better than most Triple A games,but most people probably prefer having lots of small updates, or they're just impatient,Idk but im very excited.

    • @phipschi4255
      @phipschi4255 Год назад +1

      this game is already better than wot and wt by a mile if you like to not torture yourself with terrible gameplay

  • @Micha-wb9oz
    @Micha-wb9oz 5 месяцев назад

    Frantic is shivering his timbers right now

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  5 месяцев назад

      He'll still be able to build the wacky stuff he's known for, just maybe not as compact.

  • @pitivan3895
    @pitivan3895 Год назад +1

    LET'S GOOOO

  • @power7366
    @power7366 11 месяцев назад

    Future people´s tanks gonna be INSANE with this Update.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  11 месяцев назад

      Definitely

    • @power7366
      @power7366 9 месяцев назад

      Hey, can you told me how you get the beta test upadate?@@thewonderwaffleofficial

  • @brody7714
    @brody7714 Год назад +1

    Very exciting, clearly still needs some work though!

  • @arno_groenewald
    @arno_groenewald 5 месяцев назад

    It is a bit of a struggle to wait for this update, but it will be worth it, especially the improved immersion factor.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  5 месяцев назад

      Got a week to go. My next video on it should be out soon

    • @arno_groenewald
      @arno_groenewald 5 месяцев назад

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial
      Just a coverage of the progression thus far, or the update itself, or both?
      If you are not at liberty to say, then it's understandable too.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  5 месяцев назад

      @@arno_groenewald Both, probably.

  • @V3lk0n
    @V3lk0n 10 месяцев назад +1

    No mother fucking way..
    (Btw that tank at the intro looks like an american version of the S.P I C)

  • @strelnagaming
    @strelnagaming Год назад

    I cant wait for geo internals! I might even finally have a good laptop when it arrives :D

  • @Kenshi_2900
    @Kenshi_2900 Год назад +3

    Yo Colson, Question
    Is custom spaced armor possible now?

  • @Lun28R
    @Lun28R 7 месяцев назад

    Ждем это в игре!

  • @VardrTheWolf
    @VardrTheWolf Год назад +2

    I do love the game and all but my question is will there be and new set of tracks, or new tank mantle like a Tiger H1's or even a Panzer4 or a new set of wheels? Im sorry if I sound rude or impatient. Its just I want to make newer tanks with different sets of everything. It kind of bugs me to see the same tracks and wheels for everything. Love your Vid's keep it up.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      Thanks! New parts are anticipated to arrive some time after Geometric Internals. Those specific parts may or may not be included.

    • @VardrTheWolf
      @VardrTheWolf Год назад

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial Ok I Was only wondering cause im a Tank nerd and all it's just weird seeing the same tracks for the different tanks that I make. What should be added when another update should come is that the tracks would realisticly Fall apart like you see in real life or in a game called WarThunder. Where the track would just flop off of its sprocket or Idleing wheels. Thats only a wishful thinking but would be cool. lol

  • @satanihelvetet
    @satanihelvetet 9 месяцев назад +1

    Wxcisting and interesting! Did I miss where you putted the fuel?

  • @rdgrdmedflde2966
    @rdgrdmedflde2966 Год назад

    Looks so good

  • @meinungsfreiheit7004
    @meinungsfreiheit7004 Год назад +1

    What has changed so far? Does spaced armor inside the tank work? Can you repair damaged modules? Will the engine need ventilation? Is combat working? If so how is the damage modelling doing?

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +1

      This video is still the most recent version of the closed beta. I have another video in the works that goes more into some of the building aspects.
      We should have another build available soon with more features.

    • @meinungsfreiheit7004
      @meinungsfreiheit7004 Год назад

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial thanks

  • @VivyX2
    @VivyX2 Год назад +2

    i think its safe to say that my 1.84l v28 aint fitting in my light tank anymore :(

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      It will be easier than before, surprisingly. The engine I was using is relatively big, yet is pretty small in 0.2. The engine doesn't scale exponentially in size like 0.1x engines do.

  • @Philips-eb9si
    @Philips-eb9si Год назад

    there's an old command and conquer game called Generals, i think the tanks from that game might be fun to build

  • @ykcyc_ykcyc
    @ykcyc_ykcyc 8 месяцев назад +5

    Когда ожидать это в игре?

    • @Bazilios-
      @Bazilios- 7 месяцев назад

      Тот же вопрос

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 6 месяцев назад

      Late march, so really any day now

  • @meinungsfreiheit7004
    @meinungsfreiheit7004 Год назад +1

    Im a bit disappointed. I thought this update will also bring the option to use compartments as spaced armor and custom side skirts/compound armor

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      It is supposed to, but obviously I can’t test that yet as no combat is available.

    • @meinungsfreiheit7004
      @meinungsfreiheit7004 Год назад +1

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial oh okay, we'll have to see. Sadly update has been delayed to unknown time.

  • @tetronaut88
    @tetronaut88 Год назад +3

    Is it better or worse than KSP 2 on release day?

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +3

      Initially they were a bit similar in terms of bugs, although Sprocket was a bit better off. As it stands now? Much better, since Hamish was also able to fix quite a few bugs since when the test went live.
      Considering KSP2 devs are moving at a snail’s pace, I’d say Sprocket 0.2 is in much better shape.

    • @tetronaut88
      @tetronaut88 Год назад

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial nice! My laptop has died, but I will be getting a new one soon, so I will probably miss the release of 0.2, which is a shame.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад

      It might be awhile @@tetronaut88, hoping that Hamish will post an update soon.

  • @pixynowwithevenmorebelkanb6965
    @pixynowwithevenmorebelkanb6965 Год назад +1

    Can we put armour in the vehicle, like a sort of internal spall liner?

  • @torifin755
    @torifin755 Год назад +1

    so i have to make all my light tanks bigger. (im already not good at getting good sizes as is, so all my Light tanks are 2 man crews due to them being REALLY small)

  • @Katvanished
    @Katvanished Год назад

    very nice'

  • @lazarus6125
    @lazarus6125 Год назад +2

    So does the 2 week closed beta start now? So we expect it by like the 28th?

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      It has started, yes, but we don't know how long it will last for at this point.

    • @lazarus6125
      @lazarus6125 Год назад +1

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial I love this game so much I’m DYING to play this update 😅 I need more doodads for decorating to tide me over

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад

      @@lazarus6125 Check out stuff in Hamish's Discord then
      discord.gg/sprocket

  • @itsameplaylist1341
    @itsameplaylist1341 Год назад +1

    Is there any chance to join the closed beta still?
    Edit: Also the Discord invite link is not working :/

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +1

      Info on the closed beta test is specified during the video intro. Currently it is not open to the public.

  • @babudoge6211
    @babudoge6211 5 месяцев назад +1

    Anyone here in 2024 still waiting for the update ?

  • @mikhailiagacesa3406
    @mikhailiagacesa3406 Год назад +1

    I remember gun breeches being larger IRL.

    • @EdyAlbertoMSGT3
      @EdyAlbertoMSGT3 Год назад +1

      In the video you can see that his gun is 105x105mm. That explains the breech being like that.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +4

      Yeah, I just used the smallest length for this demo. The breech is larger with increased ammo length.

  • @staanislaw
    @staanislaw 5 месяцев назад

    with new crew i will make a sleepy tank (they will be sleeping like position)

    • @staanislaw
      @staanislaw 5 месяцев назад

      btu turret crew cnnot sleep

  • @goodnico0973
    @goodnico0973 5 месяцев назад

    Do you have the new closed alpha of the V 0.2? If yes can you make a quick showcase?

  • @avus-kw2f213
    @avus-kw2f213 5 месяцев назад

    0:21 8 months ago

  • @tipok8183
    @tipok8183 5 месяцев назад

    Dynamic Defence Contact-1 Contact-5 Relict?

  • @Leopard_Tank
    @Leopard_Tank 6 месяцев назад

    war thunder but in sprocket

  • @SlovakBallPainter
    @SlovakBallPainter 8 месяцев назад

    All my hard and small real blueprints tanks design will go to trash, and life will end....

  • @UoKuOiLuO
    @UoKuOiLuO Год назад +1

    how will free form custom mantlet work

  • @Gus88859
    @Gus88859 8 месяцев назад

    I place all the ammo in the middle of the turret, gues the loader and gunner are gonna have it on theire lap

  • @ShiroStorky8
    @ShiroStorky8 7 месяцев назад

    5:23
    there are "sight" option to choose

  • @MrBronAce
    @MrBronAce Год назад

    Game becoming war thunder, making your own tanks with crew and engine. Which kinda takes abit of time to make a tank now.

  • @waterfox2492
    @waterfox2492 Год назад

    Is it possible to make the crew stand up ?
    Nice video with a lot of new way to decorate it I didn't though about.

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      Thanks! Yes, crew can stand up.

    • @waterfox2492
      @waterfox2492 Год назад

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial That's good to hear.
      Do you also know if they can switch roles when one is taken our during a battle ?

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +2

      @@waterfox2492 Combat is nearly impossible right now so I can't verify.

    • @staanislaw
      @staanislaw 5 месяцев назад

      @@thewonderwaffleofficial will there be open tank official thinks? and well could you then make commander stand in top overlooking since it be cool m18 tank like

  • @reckless20
    @reckless20 4 месяца назад

    Why did they remove every scenario, bots and default designs?🥺

  • @dormaster6284
    @dormaster6284 7 месяцев назад +1

    Когда выйдет, я не могу уже. 😢

    • @carrott36
      @carrott36 6 месяцев назад

      Any day now, it was predicted for late march!

  • @Crazymoniker
    @Crazymoniker Год назад

    MFW I just thought sprocket diameter was cosmetic and had no effect on gearing.

  • @Kulepennstrek
    @Kulepennstrek Год назад

    I'm not sure I understand the benefit of the canon change. Why the mantlet just doesn't place a canon

  • @FortyFourTomatoes
    @FortyFourTomatoes Год назад

    Question: What happens to my existing designs when the update rolls out?

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад +3

      There should be backwards compatibility by the time it launches.

    • @snipershot6014
      @snipershot6014 10 месяцев назад +1

      When the last update came out which lets you put your ammo anywhere in the tank I had to re-add the ammo to be able to use it. I'm assuming when this one comes out you just have to re-add the transmission, engine, crew and other stuff that's gonna be a 3d internal in your tank. Great news is all your tanks will still be saved so all you have to do is update it with the new features and it'll be ready for battle( unless it's to small to fit all the internals which I think some of mine are. I have a tank with a very small and flat turret so the turret ring is gonna need to be very big to fit the crew hopefully the hull for it will be big enough for the turret ring.)

  • @dextein5256
    @dextein5256 Год назад

    Do you have an possible release date?

  • @Rururudenko
    @Rururudenko Год назад

    is this Colson?

  • @DaWhiteGibusman
    @DaWhiteGibusman Год назад

    Can we make gun barrel art?

  • @alexandreaudard4309
    @alexandreaudard4309 7 месяцев назад

    War thunder

  • @ambruhzevic
    @ambruhzevic Год назад +3

    if dev wont add engine types (V , flat , radial etc) i am uninstalling

    • @Dutchman-2002
      @Dutchman-2002 Год назад +16

      Lol you wont be missed, dev is always updating you can even ask him if he has plans for other engine types, instead of crying like a child

    • @thespyfromteamfortress2568
      @thespyfromteamfortress2568 Год назад +1

      👋🏻

    • @thomasboland540
      @thomasboland540 Год назад

      ​@@Dutchman-2002all of you need to stop being dicks

    • @enderjed2523
      @enderjed2523 Год назад

      If you used your head, you might’ve realised that engines are not the priority.
      Because there’s not point having all these engines if the hulls are barely even properly simulates.

    • @ambruhzevic
      @ambruhzevic Год назад

      like why should i care if the devs plans if they only get delayed

  • @Swagmaster07
    @Swagmaster07 Год назад +2

    Your decoration looks awesome, but i question the usefullness of some things you put there...

  • @saopaulomeupais
    @saopaulomeupais Год назад

    más tem zap?

  • @Danith-V1M
    @Danith-V1M Год назад

    Товарищи, я не понимаю английский, можете подсказать если можете, могу ли я установить эту версию?

    • @thewonderwaffleofficial
      @thewonderwaffleofficial  Год назад

      Проверьте аппаратные возможности вашего ноутбука. Все, что имеет выделенную видеокарту Nvidia или AMD и было разработано в течение последних 8 лет, обычно может запускать игру.

  • @demonicsquid7217
    @demonicsquid7217 Год назад

    Interesting stuff, update is looking really good.
    Could do without the irritating music in the video though, it's too loud, and detracts from what you are saying.