An important context that wasn't mentioned in the video is that, by Brazilian law, big social networks are required to have an office where justice can order the take down of content considered ilegal. This is required for scenarios where your nudes are published without your consent, your defamed, etc. Just like a bank can't fight against an order to freeze an account from the justice (they are not being penalized but their clients), a social network can't refuse to take down posts/accounts defending a coup d'etat (a crime according to Brazilian law). Musk REFUSED to comply and removed the Brazilian branch of Twitter. He complies with India, China, Turkey, and other not-so-democratic countries. It clearly states that he considers himself above Brazilian laws.
@SãoTomásdeAquino-r2bwait you are expecting bbc to have accurate journalism?,BBC is one of the worst place to get accurate info ,they have already demonstrated how bias they are in general
You are right. That thomas de aquino guy bellow clearly is one of fair right bolsonaro supporters... they will support Elon to the bone, even knowing he's wrong. The hate against the supreme court judge Moraes is because he is the one of the few that avoided the coup d'etat Bolsonaro and his supporters tried in january 2023. They hate him because he was firm and is convicting the people that was caught from 10 to 20 years in prison. They know their time will come and they are afraind, so they request support to far right world wide activists like mr. Elon.
Same guy who didn't like it when his jet was being tracked. It's doubtful as some have said that he will give some of that wealth to charities. For these people its all about who has the most money, it's an ego thing. Brazil should govern its people the way they see fit. Some rich gringo from America shouldn't be telling them what to do.
Absolutely correct. Brazil’s judiciary followed the law and upheld the sovereignty of Brazilian law over a foreign company run by an immature drug addict. I cannot BELIVE the numbers of fools on here who are defending Musks behaviour in all this and aren’t even bothering to read a long form article online about what accounts musk was refusing to ban. They were accounts that; Were posting details of ongoing cases before the courts. We’re posting political misinformation to discredit the government in favour of the former president, the criminal Bolsenaro. Heavily implying that people should stalk and dox politicians. Any country that Facebook has a presence in also has a legal team to lease with and comply with local legislatures. Twitter used to have this in Brazil as well until Musk fired them all out of petulance rather than rationality. This is Musks fault. Not Brazils.
The best was Senator Mike Lee saying that Brazil should suffer for banning an American company. It's amazing how the United States thinks it's the center of the universe and untouchable.
Seems like they are angry on Brazil for many other things like joining BRICKS .Good for Brazil acting like a free country although a bully(USA) is there.
This guy thinks he is above the law, or even can threaten the supremacy of the Superior court in Brazil, but he is not. The funniest part is he didn't try the same approach related to China or India, he just obeyed the laws when it was convenient for him. There is nothing related to free speech, it's related to a guy who thinks he can do whatever he wants, based on convenience.
They are hoping but X is the best News platform around the world and everyone knows it. FREE SPEECH is more important than profit or righteous Lefist BS. Grow the F up BBC.
Let's remember that when the government of Turkey asked Musk to suppress accounts and posts of political opponents of the government right before an election, he complied.
@@rezende2352, first, yes there are. Second, he's complaining about freedom of speech and that Brazil is authoritarian, but he doesn't complain about that in Turkey.
@@thomasfplm No, there is not. In Brazil the law only allows banning posts, not accounts. Second, there was no investigation or legal proceedings against X, there was only a court decision based on nothing. Third, there is no subpoena via X.
I am Brazilian and a Twitter user and I hope that Mr. Musk understands that in order to combat crime our Supreme Court needs to protect and act in this way. We want the return of the X network but also respect for our laws.
“Addressing hate speech does not mean limiting or prohibiting freedom of speech. It means keeping hate speech from escalating into something more dangerous, particularly incitement to discrimination, hostility and violence, which is prohibited under international law.” - UN Secretary-General António Guterres
@@Felled-angellike in the US where constant lies, hate and misinformation have made it a utopia where people like Trump can become president? Nah. You can keep it.
Não 😂 É apenas uma opinião pessoal, até Portugal bloquear o RUclips 😂😂😂 (aí ela já não gostava 😂😂😂 porque lhe tinham cortado a liberdade de expressão😂😂)
It is about time to hold these super-rich Bond villains accountable who think they can pollute the world with their misinformation to serve their own purposes.
You mean, allow people to speak out against the controlled narrative of the mainstream government controlled media, that’s what this is really about. The mainstream media has lied so much, it’s only thanks to social media that we know about it.
Villains? How is he a villain? And when has he spread misinformation as you mention? By the way, there's nothing wrong inherently with being super-rich, so why do you mention that? What does that change?
@@casperkejser1712he literally tweeted a fake headline - purporting to be from the Telegraph newspaper, a few weeks ago and had to delete it (you can Google it). Of course he waited long enough for it to go viral, the man just can't stop lying to everyone.
@@casperkejser1712 "when has he spread misinformation as you mention?" Why are you unable to educate yourself and, instead, choosing to rely on others to educate you? It's rather weak and embarrassing, wouldn't you say?
its so funny how he manages to fuck literally everything up because of his ego. literally between 40 - 70% of his followers on there are bots. he is so fragile
Elon is definitely failing I kinda figured most his fortunes and good luck was due to his family history anyways 13$Billion dollar company plummet from 44$Billion when he first took over that's a huge fail of a business move.
Anyone who I've seen use the word Apartheid, has never even been to Africa, and are generally a far left extremist in favor of mass censorship similar to the book 1984 or Fahrenheit 451.
@@sabejreid2072If your free speech argument almost exclusively means letting hatred become an institution of life, then not expecting stiff resistance can only be viewed as narcissistic dogmatism, symptomatic of clinical insanity.
No logic in your comment. Apartheid = big government controlling and restricting its population, X = free speech. Brazil is the one controlling and restricting here not Elon Musk.
According to Brazilian legislation every business needs to have an office in Brazil, Musk just closed twitter's office in Brazil. Colonization is over long time ago, a foreigner don't have the right to come to a Brazil make lots o money and disrespect our laws, just because he is very rich. If he wants to do business in Brazil just follow the laws simple as that
I am Brazilian and It is terrible how people can twist the truth! This judge is acting as a dictator. He keeps innocent people arrested without definition of what their crime is. He ignores the laws. He starts lawsuits himself, he acts as If he is the victim, the accuser, the judge at the same time.
@@DaniboyBR2 Você não pode usar a lei para transgredir a lei. Logo, cabe o uso do instrumento de "Interpretação Conforme a Constituição", para garantir que as leis sejam aplicadas em harmonia com os princípios e valores constitucionais.
Funny how people who claim to support "democracy" want to emulate Russia and China when it comes to banning social media sites that aren't government mouthpieces.
Say the truth guys : They will be ban if you don’t have a legal representation in Brazil. There is no legal person incharhe for company in Brazil- to receive letter from government officials. That’s why they shut it down. ! The judge request this for long time and X did not appoint a person for this job ….
Musk took out the representatives because he feared for their lives. Blue sky has no legal representative and yet they run. Lula promoted them actually. Interesting. Musk just didn't comply with banning X accounts of Morales's political opponents No hate speech. Just differing opinions. So much Elon Musk hate from people that never listened to Musk first hand (not someone's highlights or spin)
I preferred the Stone Age when a supply of rounded rocks in the bed of a river gave me an unlimited income stream from the sale of throwing and slinging stones.
It may of been, but a lot of monsters lurked in the shadows bavk then, like Jimmy Saville etc. I don't think I can look at the 90s and 90s in the same rose tinted glasses anymore
Nope, while internet and social media made us unhappy, it was just ignorance being bliss, being able to fight back against governments screwing us is the real reason they want to regulate them.
In Brazil, we sarcastically call him 'KIKO DOS FOGUETES,' but it seems his disregard for our laws extends beyond his rocket obsession. If he thinks he can run Twitter (now X) here without following our regulations, he's in for a surprise. He'll have to comply, just like any other company, or he can take his platform elsewhere.
Only communist people call him that, real Brazilians, 90% of the population, support him and Brazil's laws that protect free speech, which is enshrined in the Brazilian Constitution, making any attempt to censor illegal. You're a criminal as much as Alexandre de Moraes.
@@beinformed3607 Most Brazilians support Elon Musk and our own basic human rights, this man you're answering to is a PT supporter, they are all far-left fascists, scummiest people you'll ever meet.
There is no hate speech law in Brazil, Brazil protects free speech in the Constitution but these judges are communist radicals and want communism in Brazil.
It isn't, there's no legislation regarding "hate speech", there is legislation protecting free speech, legislation being completely ignored by the communist tyrants ruling Brazil right now.
I am Brazilian, and the Supreme Court judge is actually quite conservative. He was a former prosecutor and has directly dealt with crime, among other issues. The point is not entirely related to the left versus right political divide, even though right-wing people claim it is. The judge is targeting those who are spreading misinformation about our voting system and cannot provide any proof to support their claims. These individuals are actively fighting against our democracy, calling for military coups, for example. Meanwhile, Musk is actively protecting them by giving them a platform to attack our institutions. Also, to be clear, the judge has not acted alone. Our Supreme Court is composed of 11 judges, and in a recent ruling, his decision was supported by four other ministers (this is what we call them in an directly translation), with five votes in favor of his ruling. So, this is not undemocratic at all-he’s just being a crybaby because we don't bow to his will and money. The number of people that cant understand the basic in our country even after explained is absurd. In here it is illegal to an international company to stay and function without a juridic base in the country. To prevent or hold the company responsable in case of any issues. Like the billionare refuse to comply with the laws, for exemple. Furthermore, it is worth noting that in Brazil it is a crime to have Nazi speech, to suggest that people be racist and homophobic, it is a crime provided for in our law made by Brazilian society. X needs to respect the laws in Brazil just as if it were a Brazilian company like 3G, owner of Burger King, or Embraer respects and has a legal representative where it operates.
@bobrobertson9547 It's not banned forever, it's a conditional suspension: simply follow Brazilian laws, and the suspension will be lifted and it will be back up.
How X is making money, I think through Ads , just like Facebook & Google. And the population of Brazil is 215.3 million. Wouldnt look great for losing a market like that .
X was going to bankrupt in brazil. There are no Ads enough to pay for thr operation. It was a clever idea to force the legal system to force him back to shutdown his own office, which in turn motivated brazilian justice to suspend x activities there until a new office or representative is restored.
@@obsidianjane4413 And I guess you have no idea VPNs change nothing. The amount of people who even know what a VPN is is much smaller than the general population. The amount of people willing to pay for a VPN to access illegal content is even smaller. Add a massive fine on top of that for intimidation and the amount of people that's confident and knowledgeable enough to correctly configure a VPN to literally break the law while avoiding one of the many pitfalls is non existent at this point. You have virtually no one left. Do you think any company is going to have a presence on X after that? Who are they going to advertise for? There's no one left, advertisers are not going to use VPNs to advertise their products to ghosts. Brazil alone just broke X's legs completely, now imagine if others follow suit.
Thanks - didn't know that - and of course the BBC are not reporting accurately on this. I can't stand the BBC now except for the old shows which are non PC. Poor Britain. We've been hijacked by utter Leftists, Communist sympathisers and Labor Fools.
Who tells their investors to ‘f**k off’ and then sues them when they do? Who called this guy a genius? This and along with his crappy CyberPunk cars are just a joke.
people are always complaining about investors who constantly want corporations and businesses to turn profits and ever expand to the detriments of what comes with pursuing such endless growth, if he said fook em then hes going against the grain, I respect that and we need more ceo's like that to make a personal stand, right or wrong hes acting human, not like a money making robot zombie, which is it what do you want, one way or the other make up your mind
Some information about Brazil and the case: Free speach is in our constitution as "liberty of expresing your thoughts, with no anonimacy", but also our constituition defines attacks against the democratic state, hate speach, sharing private stuff of another person and a few more as crimes above the free speach. The accounts that should've been blocked had some or all of those crimes. And since 2002 any company that operates in Brazilian territory needs to have a "holding" in Brazil to awnser the authorities. Elon not only took the X holding off Brazil, but also ignored the brazilian judiciary and made fun about it. All Brazilians are under Brazil's law and any foreign person or company in Brazilian territory is too, if you dont like the court decision.... you go to court to fight against it, but until then you have to comply. Also in our constitution is the duty to protect national sovereignty, no outsider will disrespect our law in here. And that's the only reason I agree with the block.
Hate speech, lies, fake news and false accusations against Elon on social and mainstream media are of course not censored, but rather encouraged it seems.
It´s not only about restricting free speech, here in Brazil any company that operates on the marked must have a legal representative in the country and Elon just think he can do whatever comes to his mind, but forgets that he has to obey the rules of the country where he does business. In the real world you can´t just go and incite violence without getting reprimanded for that, in the digital space it make no sense to let that be normal. Not taking in account that the types of Elon can steer the online opinions with clever algorithms and bots.
My country should ban the Brazilian commie leader from ever visiting my country. We have lived under it so we are not so kind to leaders like the one in Brazil.
The first amendment in the US does not protect speech that is malicious, hate speech or a known falsehood. All it takes is their Supreme Court to have the courage to address it. There is no absolute.
Actually it does, you can lie, talk nonsense, anything that comes to your mind as long as you dont directly call for violence. It is your job to deal with it, ignore it or do your own speech. First amendment is a ticket to freedom and every country shoud have it. Those who oppose it opt for tyrany, fascism, communism or anything that keep people in bondage.
@@dipperdog By letting people have free speech who you don't believe should be allowed to speak... You seem to enjoy many different flavours of shoe polish.
The arrogant billionaire threw $44 billion down the toilet as this app isn't worth much anymore 😂 The previous owners must be laughing their arses off😂
Here in Brazil, today, September 13th, Elon Musk, through Starlink, has just paid the fine imposed by Brazilian judicial authorities on X. The fine amounts to approximately 4 million dollars. Now, to reactivate X in Brazil, they will still have to appoint a representative of the company here in Brazil, in addition to complying with court orders. These multimillionaires have to be hit in the pocket; only then will they respect the authorities of various countries.
the UK has no problem arresting journalists for being critical of Israel , but backs down from a billionaire who is trying to destroy British multicultural society, cowardice.
I see misinformation posts all the time, but I prefer seeing something someone was allowed to freely say rather than knowing they were silenced. It's a country's political leadership that are supposed to dispel misinformation.
Whilst I think we would be better off without Twitter, Brazil is not the pressure point here and this is highly inconsequential. We need further action from the likes of the EU or even the UK.
@@FunnyOrNot Twitter / X has never been allowed in China, my friend, but mr botox face musk is very happy with his business there. If you are a billionaire fan and think that only money rules, good luck, I'm not wasting my time here.
To those claiming this is censorship: Freedom of speech is different from using social media to commit crimes, such as spreading fake news, abuse, incitement or glorification of violence and crime, scams, forgeries, threats, etc. Just because it's social media doesn't mean there are no laws. If a company is being notified about these 'crimes,' it must follow the law and act for the safety of its users and society as a whole. Elon Musk behaves like a child, making decisions based on what suits him, and thinks that just because he's rich, he owns the world and can't be contradicted.
To know what haters think, I'm going to need to hear them. And, Free Speech is necessary for people to be free, just like Elon Musk supports. So Musk has a battle on his hands to get "Free Speech" a world wide right for every one. Thanks Elon, for fighting the good fight. A few weeks time will help clarify the real Brazil issues here.... A BRIC nation learning "Free Speech" is going to be difficult, to say the least... Elon may be the best African American we have.....
now change Brazil with Musk and still you'll get the same results. Difference is Brazil can and will change for the better, Musk can't dintinguish is ass from his ego
Va aprender a situação daqui antes de falar. Ja foi mostrado que há pessoas e perfis falsos cometendo crimes e Musk apenas não quer acatar as leis deste país.
It's a Brazilian Federal Law every foreign country must follow: having a legal representative in Brazil so, in any legal case or any other situation, the company can be hold responsible.
O free speech que Musk defende é o de pessoas promovendo atos anti democracia como os que o Qnon realiza. Também tivemos pessoas usando perfis falsos para atacar pessoas e instituições e esses posts continuam disponiveis. Posts pedindo golpes contra a democracia e ate a morte. Se isso é liberdade de expressão para você e outros apaixonados pro Musk então podem ficar com o Twitter. Musk pode usar como um brinco.
X isn't under any pressure at all. He has decided he wants to live in a Free World. He doesn't want to live under totalitarianism. You could wipe out X and Elon would still be the richest man who ever lived. He's willing to risk 40 billion dollars to save free speech. Now, that is a man that deserves respect.
Banana republics are banning X anyway, Brazil has become one of them and UK is on the way. I will be using it to see different opinion or opinions I dont agree with. Thank you Mr. Musk for being there and shed light in this dark hour for humankind.
@@arctic_haze whatever. not venezuela, but also not sweden. is there any real democracy on South America?... but keep your "feelings", I'm not gonna be the one to burst your bubble.
@@Maddog-xc2zvdesculpe não estarmos ao nivel da democracia yankee. Afinal foi um grande exempli de democracia a forma como Biden assumiu a presidência, com Trump indo as mídias declarando que os juizes estão contra ele e que as eleições foram fraudadas mesmo sem provas e claro, foi um ato de civismo a passeata e manifestação "pacifica" de seus seguidores ... dentro dp Capitolio entoando canticos de "enforquem Pence". 😂
Every now and then I read a comment like this and think surely some hypotheticals need to be answered... In my younger days, I was also once a "free speech" warrior, but I can't ignore the exploitation and where "free speech" has necessary limits. So I ask, if there is a line, where is said line of "free speech" to you? Do you believe in the concept of incitement? Do you believe these views are applicable in your own home? Do you think it is possible for groups to harbour dangerous ideas that require intervention? Maybe my mind can be changed but I find it absurd that we can ignore cause and effect for the sake of individual freedom in spaces that we all must share.
*It wasn't BANNED; it was temporalily suspended until musk appoint a legal representation again In Brazil, like he had until 2 weeks ago and simply closed it to try to escape from fines and accountability*
O Bradil vai sofrer?.E quem nos punirá? Você? Vamos apenas rir e usar uno reverse e agir como Musk. Não vamos acatar decisões que diminuem nossa soberania por causa de leis de outro país por causa de um homem infantil e narcisista 😊
Free speech is important to the Brazilian people; just look at how many people are out protesting in Brazil 🇧🇷. The BBC doesn’t seem interested in reporting this. I wonder why.
Propagating false or inaccurate information about someone, with the aim of damaging their reputation and image before third parties. Furthermore, spreading rumors or false news on social media is considered a crime in Brazil.
An important context that wasn't mentioned in the video is that, by Brazilian law, big social networks are required to have an office where justice can order the take down of content considered ilegal. This is required for scenarios where your nudes are published without your consent, your defamed, etc. Just like a bank can't fight against an order to freeze an account from the justice (they are not being penalized but their clients), a social network can't refuse to take down posts/accounts defending a coup d'etat (a crime according to Brazilian law). Musk REFUSED to comply and removed the Brazilian branch of Twitter. He complies with India, China, Turkey, and other not-so-democratic countries. It clearly states that he considers himself above Brazilian laws.
Thanks you do a better job of informing than the loathed BBC
@SãoTomásdeAquino-r2bwait you are expecting bbc to have accurate journalism?,BBC is one of the worst place to get accurate info ,they have already demonstrated how bias they are in general
You are right. That thomas de aquino guy bellow clearly is one of fair right bolsonaro supporters... they will support Elon to the bone, even knowing he's wrong. The hate against the supreme court judge Moraes is because he is the one of the few that avoided the coup d'etat Bolsonaro and his supporters tried in january 2023. They hate him because he was firm and is convicting the people that was caught from 10 to 20 years in prison. They know their time will come and they are afraind, so they request support to far right world wide activists like mr. Elon.
By Brazilian law, you can have freedom of speech and censorship is advised against. Also for hate speech to be characterized it needs evidence.
@@beinformed3607 indeed, and the posts/accounts that were supposed to be taken down were the evidence.
Same guy who didn't like it when his jet was being tracked. It's doubtful as some have said that he will give some of that wealth to charities. For these people its all about who has the most money, it's an ego thing. Brazil should govern its people the way they see fit. Some rich gringo from America shouldn't be telling them what to do.
BUT MUSK SUPPORTS TRUMP WHO IS AN EVIL DICTATOR!!!
His has american citizen but dude is from south africa.
@@ArtSmosh1274 I know
@@ArtSmosh1274Is that supposed to be your attempt at derailing the other guys argument? By throwing in a nitpicking observation like that?
Absolutely correct. Brazil’s judiciary followed the law and upheld the sovereignty of Brazilian law over a foreign company run by an immature drug addict.
I cannot BELIVE the numbers of fools on here who are defending Musks behaviour in all this and aren’t even bothering to read a long form article online about what accounts musk was refusing to ban.
They were accounts that;
Were posting details of ongoing cases before the courts.
We’re posting political misinformation to discredit the government in favour of the former president, the criminal Bolsenaro.
Heavily implying that people should stalk and dox politicians.
Any country that Facebook has a presence in also has a legal team to lease with and comply with local legislatures. Twitter used to have this in Brazil as well until Musk fired them all out of petulance rather than rationality.
This is Musks fault. Not Brazils.
The best was Senator Mike Lee saying that Brazil should suffer for banning an American company. It's amazing how the United States thinks it's the center of the universe and untouchable.
The world should ban the U.S 😂
Seems like they are angry on Brazil for many other things like joining BRICKS .Good for Brazil acting like a free country although a bully(USA) is there.
It’s amazing you’ve been brainwashed into supporting the censorious dystopian tyrants.
Verdade....o Brasil não é uma República de Bananas.
Will suffer from illegal freezing of assets
Twitter advertisers these days are basically AI bots, crypto and p0r/\/ stuff
Before the ban here in Brazil, suspects bet plataforms (probably contrrolled by russian oligarchs) were the most usual adds here.
@@ladymorwendaebrethil-feani4031 Do nada mete um "provavelmente controlada por Russos" que aleatório, coisa de zé buceta mesmo.
Only lengthy one tho thought it ereror in my mutyhredsa 😊
BUT MUSK SUPPORTS TRUMP WHO IS AN EVIL DICTATOR!!!
Kind of like your mom😊
This guy thinks he is above the law, or even can threaten the supremacy of the Superior court in Brazil, but he is not. The funniest part is he didn't try the same approach related to China or India, he just obeyed the laws when it was convenient for him.
There is nothing related to free speech, it's related to a guy who thinks he can do whatever he wants, based on convenience.
The people of Brazil stand with him against the communist judge
@@Agtsmirnoffno we don’t.
People of brazil wants companies to abide by the Brazilian laws.
Bullied as a child, bully as an "adult"
@@Agtsmirnoffno they don’t
@@Agtsmirnoffo povo brasileiro não é sua panelinha
This is probably just the beginning. Brazil made the first move, but others will follow.
They are hoping but X is the best News platform around the world and everyone knows it. FREE SPEECH is more important than profit or righteous Lefist BS. Grow the F up BBC.
Okay NPC bot 😂😂
Thankfully, they will.
All the 5 Supreme Court judges who voted about the ban agreed with Moraes
ALL the supreme court (11 judges, including those appointed by Bolsonaro) agreed with de Moraes
O stf Brasil não parâmetro moral pra nada seu estúpido alienado
Gringo tá cagando para BOSTILEIRO
What has Moses and his 10 lines of code got to do with it?
Brazil is under the spell of communist China 🇨🇳 😢😢😢😢
Let's remember that when the government of Turkey asked Musk to suppress accounts and posts of political opponents of the government right before an election, he complied.
Liar❕
because in Turkey there are laws that allow banning accounts. In Brazil there are not.
@@rezende2352, first, yes there are.
Second, he's complaining about freedom of speech and that Brazil is authoritarian, but he doesn't complain about that in Turkey.
@@thomasfplm No, there is not. In Brazil the law only allows banning posts, not accounts. Second, there was no investigation or legal proceedings against X, there was only a court decision based on nothing. Third, there is no subpoena via X.
@@thomasfplm simply prior censorship, prohibited by the Constitution.
I am Brazilian and a Twitter user and I hope that Mr. Musk understands that in order to combat crime our Supreme Court needs to protect and act in this way. We want the return of the X network but also respect for our laws.
I understand
Que mané combater o crime hahaha. Só querem garantir a lagosta que vão comer rindo da sua cara.
“Addressing hate speech does not mean limiting or prohibiting freedom of speech. It means keeping hate speech from escalating into something more dangerous, particularly incitement to discrimination, hostility and violence, which is prohibited under international law.” - UN Secretary-General António Guterres
The UN is corrupt, and in the pockets of the globalists. F them.
Keep repeating their talking points one day you'll regret it
@@Felled-angel So if UNSG says dont suck your own balls, you will suck your own balls ??
@@Felled-angellike in the US where constant lies, hate and misinformation have made it a utopia where people like Trump can become president? Nah. You can keep it.
That guy is literally a communist, look at his history
Portugal also doesn't want your "free speech", Bye Felicia
Sim 👏👏👏👏👏👏
youre the elected spokesperson for portugal?
you dont speak for anybody you freak
Não 😂
É apenas uma opinião pessoal, até Portugal bloquear o RUclips 😂😂😂 (aí ela já não gostava 😂😂😂 porque lhe tinham cortado a liberdade de expressão😂😂)
If Brazil can do it, hopefully the rest of us can.
Hopefully most of the world can suppress freedom of speech
that's why we good guys
Let's s do it!! 🎉🎉🎉
Brazil is damn near a 3rd world country. You don’t wanna ride that wave.
hahahahaah
You’re supporting a dystopian tyranny.
It is about time to hold these super-rich Bond villains accountable who think they can pollute the world with their misinformation to serve their own purposes.
You mean, allow people to speak out against the controlled narrative of the mainstream government controlled media, that’s what this is really about. The mainstream media has lied so much, it’s only thanks to social media that we know about it.
Villains? How is he a villain? And when has he spread misinformation as you mention? By the way, there's nothing wrong inherently with being super-rich, so why do you mention that? What does that change?
@@casperkejser1712he literally tweeted a fake headline - purporting to be from the Telegraph newspaper, a few weeks ago and had to delete it (you can Google it). Of course he waited long enough for it to go viral, the man just can't stop lying to everyone.
@@casperkejser1712 "when has he spread misinformation as you mention?"
Why are you unable to educate yourself and, instead, choosing to rely on others to educate you?
It's rather weak and embarrassing, wouldn't you say?
Brazil pollutes the world with its existence
its so funny how he manages to fuck literally everything up because of his ego. literally between 40 - 70% of his followers on there are bots. he is so fragile
Yeah he fucks everything up that’s why he’s one of the richest people to ever exist 😅
He meant to do exactly what he’s done, he’s not in it for the profit
Elon is definitely failing I kinda figured most his fortunes and good luck was due to his family history anyways 13$Billion dollar company plummet from 44$Billion when he first took over that's a huge fail of a business move.
Imagine that. Your hatred of one man that you unironically cheer for censorship. Congrats. You are a sheep.
is this true? i love to see the proof to pass it on
You can take the man out of Apartheid, but not the Apartheid out of the man.
Anyone who I've seen use the word Apartheid, has never even been to Africa, and are generally a far left extremist in favor of mass censorship similar to the book 1984 or Fahrenheit 451.
Wake up man
@@sabejreid2072If your free speech argument almost exclusively means letting hatred become an institution of life, then not expecting stiff resistance can only be viewed as narcissistic dogmatism, symptomatic of clinical insanity.
No logic in your comment.
Apartheid = big government controlling and restricting its population, X = free speech.
Brazil is the one controlling and restricting here not Elon Musk.
🗣PREACH‼ APARTHEID ELON wants to spread that VILE and HATRED Venom around the World❗
Today in Brazil, Twitter (X) is treated as a deep web forum.
According to Brazilian legislation every business needs to have an office in Brazil, Musk just closed twitter's office in Brazil. Colonization is over long time ago, a foreigner don't have the right to come to a Brazil make lots o money and disrespect our laws, just because he is very rich. If he wants to do business in Brazil just follow the laws simple as that
Brazil is colonised nation founded by colonialism. over 80% if the country is of non-native Brazilian heritage.
@@lolfactorie No shit, how'd you found out this man?
I am Brazilian and It is terrible how people can twist the truth! This judge is acting as a dictator. He keeps innocent people arrested without definition of what their crime is. He ignores the laws. He starts lawsuits himself, he acts as If he is the victim, the accuser, the judge at the same time.
You have no Idea of what is going on in Brazil. This judge os acting as a dictator. Check for the truth!
@@mercessoares7546 straight BS
I'm from Brazil, he disrespected the law and got punished. Simple as that
Not true, the law in Brazil is free speech, censorship is ILLEGAL in BRazil. Article 5 of the Brazilian Constitution.
@@DaniboyBR2o mesmo artigo 5o criminaliza racismo, a liberdade de expressão não é irrestrita.
@@elvisbl É sim, não existe liberdade de expressão restrita, ou não se chamaria liberdade de expressão.
WRONG HE DIDN'T BREAK THE LAW
@@DaniboyBR2 Você não pode usar a lei para transgredir a lei. Logo, cabe o uso do instrumento de "Interpretação Conforme a Constituição", para garantir que as leis sejam aplicadas em harmonia com os princípios e valores constitucionais.
Please do the same in Europe. We don't need those lawless platforms, only working for their own profit.
Funny how quiet Kung Fu Class Elon is about "X" in China and Russia
Funny how people who claim to support "democracy" want to emulate Russia and China when it comes to banning social media sites that aren't government mouthpieces.
Brazil is part of BRICS block so no wonder they do this, probably acting upon order of CCP.
Brazil now is in line with Communist ?
Those contries are not a democracy, Brazil WAS a democracy so we strugle to save it
TELL the TRUTH and SHAME the VILE, Hatered of APARTHEID ELON‼
Say the truth guys : They will be ban if you don’t have a legal representation in Brazil. There is no legal person incharhe for company in Brazil- to receive letter from government officials. That’s why they shut it down. ! The judge request this for long time and X did not appoint a person for this job ….
And also that they seized the assets and threatened to arrest the person that was X’s legal rep.
Musk took out the representatives because he feared for their lives. Blue sky has no legal representative and yet they run. Lula promoted them actually. Interesting. Musk just didn't comply with banning X accounts of Morales's political opponents No hate speech. Just differing opinions. So much Elon Musk hate from people that never listened to Musk first hand (not someone's highlights or spin)
he's completely out of his mind
So many bots out
Okay bot
@@drconflict629 hello, fellow bot!
Yup brazil president is
@@sarov7658 what did Brazil's president do?
I prefered the 80s without all of it ,life was happier and simpler back then.
I preferred the Stone Age when a supply of rounded rocks in the bed of a river gave me an unlimited income stream from the sale of throwing and slinging stones.
It may of been, but a lot of monsters lurked in the shadows bavk then, like Jimmy Saville etc. I don't think I can look at the 90s and 90s in the same rose tinted glasses anymore
Nope, while internet and social media made us unhappy, it was just ignorance being bliss, being able to fight back against governments screwing us is the real reason they want to regulate them.
Doesn't mean the world wasn't jacked up. The cold war was a thing and so many more.
Exactly 💯
Right on Brazil! Its time to recognize the difference between opinion and harassment.
Brazil calls It misinformarion when It says somethimg they don't like. It Is censorship
The only harassment comes from the authoritarian government your clueless shill
In Brazil, we sarcastically call him 'KIKO DOS FOGUETES,' but it seems his disregard for our laws extends beyond his rocket obsession. If he thinks he can run Twitter (now X) here without following our regulations, he's in for a surprise. He'll have to comply, just like any other company, or he can take his platform elsewhere.
Nobody cares about your laws when your president will probably be in jail again before too long. Banana republic.
Only communist people call him that, real Brazilians, 90% of the population, support him and Brazil's laws that protect free speech, which is enshrined in the Brazilian Constitution, making any attempt to censor illegal. You're a criminal as much as Alexandre de Moraes.
Oh you’ll be in for a surprise yourself once you read your own CONSTITUTION.
@@beinformed3607 Most Brazilians support Elon Musk and our own basic human rights, this man you're answering to is a PT supporter, they are all far-left fascists, scummiest people you'll ever meet.
@@beinformed3607 I did! Did you?
Hate speech is a crime in Brazil if Elon Musk do not respect Brazil ban and all Brazilians are okay with NO X in Brazil.
There is no hate speech law in Brazil, Brazil protects free speech in the Constitution but these judges are communist radicals and want communism in Brazil.
You speak for every Brazilian? Then why has vpn use soared?
Okay government shill😂😂😂😂
oh yeah, lets throw people in jail for posting an internet meme. Worked out very well in the UK.
It isn't, there's no legislation regarding "hate speech", there is legislation protecting free speech, legislation being completely ignored by the communist tyrants ruling Brazil right now.
I am Brazilian, and the Supreme Court judge is actually quite conservative. He was a former prosecutor and has directly dealt with crime, among other issues. The point is not entirely related to the left versus right political divide, even though right-wing people claim it is. The judge is targeting those who are spreading misinformation about our voting system and cannot provide any proof to support their claims. These individuals are actively fighting against our democracy, calling for military coups, for example. Meanwhile, Musk is actively protecting them by giving them a platform to attack our institutions.
Also, to be clear, the judge has not acted alone. Our Supreme Court is composed of 11 judges, and in a recent ruling, his decision was supported by four other ministers (this is what we call them in an directly translation), with five votes in favor of his ruling. So, this is not undemocratic at all-he’s just being a crybaby because we don't bow to his will and money.
The number of people that cant understand the basic in our country even after explained is absurd. In here it is illegal to an international company to stay and function without a juridic base in the country. To prevent or hold the company responsable in case of any issues. Like the billionare refuse to comply with the laws, for exemple.
Furthermore, it is worth noting that in Brazil it is a crime to have Nazi speech, to suggest that people be racist and homophobic, it is a crime provided for in our law made by Brazilian society. X needs to respect the laws in Brazil just as if it were a Brazilian company like 3G, owner of Burger King, or Embraer respects and has a legal representative where it operates.
It's not banned, it's suspended.
meaning banned duh duh ...until lifted if ever duh duh
@bobrobertson9547 It's not banned forever, it's a conditional suspension: simply follow Brazilian laws, and the suspension will be lifted and it will be back up.
@@hisham_hmWhich laws? I don’t think you know more than this talking point.
@@SeeLasSeeThere is a law that requires any foreign company that wants to operate in Brazil to have a legal representative in the country
But you will see only themselves those who suspended it can use it via back door 🚪 must be Lol 😂😆
How X is making money, I think through Ads , just like Facebook & Google.
And the population of Brazil is 215.3 million. Wouldnt look great for losing a market like that .
They will just reinstate it after the communist party is voted out. Plus very little ratio of active users
X was going to bankrupt in brazil. There are no Ads enough to pay for thr operation. It was a clever idea to force the legal system to force him back to shutdown his own office, which in turn motivated brazilian justice to suspend x activities there until a new office or representative is restored.
X also banned in Pakistan 240 million population
I guess you've never heard of a VPN either.
@@obsidianjane4413 And I guess you have no idea VPNs change nothing. The amount of people who even know what a VPN is is much smaller than the general population. The amount of people willing to pay for a VPN to access illegal content is even smaller. Add a massive fine on top of that for intimidation and the amount of people that's confident and knowledgeable enough to correctly configure a VPN to literally break the law while avoiding one of the many pitfalls is non existent at this point. You have virtually no one left. Do you think any company is going to have a presence on X after that? Who are they going to advertise for? There's no one left, advertisers are not going to use VPNs to advertise their products to ghosts. Brazil alone just broke X's legs completely, now imagine if others follow suit.
Correction: Twitter wasn't banned, it was suspended. It can return as soon as it complies with court orders.
Thanks - didn't know that - and of course the BBC are not reporting accurately on this. I can't stand the BBC now except for the old shows which are non PC. Poor Britain. We've been hijacked by utter Leftists, Communist sympathisers and Labor Fools.
Thank you Brazil. If only our lot would follow your example and rein these foolish billionaires in as well.
Who tells their investors to ‘f**k off’ and then sues them when they do? Who called this guy a genius?
This and along with his crappy CyberPunk cars are just a joke.
people are always complaining about investors who constantly want corporations and businesses to turn profits and ever expand to the detriments of what comes with pursuing such endless growth, if he said fook em then hes going against the grain, I respect that and we need more ceo's like that to make a personal stand, right or wrong hes acting human, not like a money making robot zombie, which is it what do you want, one way or the other make up your mind
Some information about Brazil and the case:
Free speach is in our constitution as "liberty of expresing your thoughts, with no anonimacy", but also our constituition defines attacks against the democratic state, hate speach, sharing private stuff of another person and a few more as crimes above the free speach. The accounts that should've been blocked had some or all of those crimes.
And since 2002 any company that operates in Brazilian territory needs to have a "holding" in Brazil to awnser the authorities. Elon not only took the X holding off Brazil, but also ignored the brazilian judiciary and made fun about it. All Brazilians are under Brazil's law and any foreign person or company in Brazilian territory is too, if you dont like the court decision.... you go to court to fight against it, but until then you have to comply.
Also in our constitution is the duty to protect national sovereignty, no outsider will disrespect our law in here. And that's the only reason I agree with the block.
Bit like blackrock and Vanguard telling countries how they should be ran.
Hate speech, lies, fake news and false accusations against Elon on social and mainstream media are of course not censored, but rather encouraged it seems.
Elon is a beacon of light in these dark times and that is why he is so much hated by establishments and elites across the world.
BBC once again on the wrong side of objectivity.
AGREE 100%
It´s not only about restricting free speech, here in Brazil any company that operates on the marked must have a legal representative in the country and Elon just think he can do whatever comes to his mind, but forgets that he has to obey the rules of the country where he does business. In the real world you can´t just go and incite violence without getting reprimanded for that, in the digital space it make no sense to let that be normal. Not taking in account that the types of Elon can steer the online opinions with clever algorithms and bots.
My country should ban the Brazilian commie leader from ever visiting my country. We have lived under it so we are not so kind to leaders like the one in Brazil.
The first amendment in the US does not protect speech that is malicious, hate speech or a known falsehood. All it takes is their Supreme Court to have the courage to address it. There is no absolute.
@@tukayz254 Common sense will suffice.
@@justaghoulintheworld You would have sided with German Mustache Man in the 1930s.
@@Knowbody42What they said goes directly against the moustache man you imbecile.
Actually it does, you can lie, talk nonsense, anything that comes to your mind as long as you dont directly call for violence. It is your job to deal with it, ignore it or do your own speech. First amendment is a ticket to freedom and every country shoud have it. Those who oppose it opt for tyrany, fascism, communism or anything that keep people in bondage.
You're a full blown Nazi, I hope you know that.
If BBC wants to operate in Brazil it needs a registered business and a legal representative in Brazil. X has neither.
Whatever happened to Musk. A bloke I admired back in the early Tesla and SpaceX days.
I too used to admire him. That quickly turned to hatred after all that he has done since.
People used to love him. But it was around the time of the pandemic that he started losing popularity very fast and becoming very hated.
He noticed the corruption of power hungry tyrants, and you didn't. That's what happened.
@@Knowbody42 No, he BECAME the power hungry tyrant, and we all got to see it.
@@dipperdog By letting people have free speech who you don't believe should be allowed to speak...
You seem to enjoy many different flavours of shoe polish.
The arrogant billionaire threw $44 billion down the toilet as this app isn't worth much anymore 😂 The previous owners must be laughing their arses off😂
It's much better now than it ever was before and generating more money than ever. You're a clueless idiot.
Elon is a fool.
Free speech should be free from external political influence
BBC propaganda works wonders on the feeble mind
Honestly the BBC has fallen so far - we just can't trust it or watch it.
BBC plus bots =raising groomer libs to next levels
twitter wasn't making a profit before he bought it, let it die. other platforms exist
Okay NPC. It's making more money than ever before so keep living in denial land
@@drconflict629 it's revenue has dropped by 84% lol
Bravo Brazil! Defend your country from devils!
They can’t. Their president is an Ex con that never beat the evidence remember?
BBC and the path to the Brave New World!
Yeah 2 Tier Kier and the rest of them... Love X Love Elon FBBC
Here in Brazil, today, September 13th, Elon Musk, through Starlink, has just paid the fine imposed by Brazilian judicial authorities on X.
The fine amounts to approximately 4 million dollars.
Now, to reactivate X in Brazil, they will still have to appoint a representative of the company here in Brazil, in addition to complying with court orders.
These multimillionaires have to be hit in the pocket; only then will they respect the authorities of various countries.
I have a feeling soon Elon Musk will stepdown from Twitter and twitter will regain it's old bird emoji
Amém. NUNCA gostei desse "X".
Obviously there is two tier policing in England.
Elon musk scamming America big time 😅
Couldn't have happened to a more deserving individual. Congratulations, Mr. Musk, you played yourself.
More like Lula played himself when the ban will prove to be ineffective.
Wow, there is so much hate here that they should ban RUclips in Brazil too 🤣
RUclips não compatua com situações que Musk fomenta.
O comentário mais burro que vi até agora
Did anyone watch that interview? ELON LITERALLY CAUGHT THAT BBC interviewer lying
Elon Musk should be banned
Freedom of speech doesn't mean Freedom from punishment
Actually it does
Yeah so get to it and close down the Biased BBC
What do you think freedom of speech is for?
Solution:
Unbiased journalism?
Libs:what is that
He believes he is above the laws...
the UK has no problem arresting journalists for being critical of Israel , but backs down from a billionaire who is trying to destroy British multicultural society, cowardice.
I see misinformation posts all the time, but I prefer seeing something someone was allowed to freely say rather than knowing they were silenced. It's a country's political leadership that are supposed to dispel misinformation.
We are all in Blue Sky now. Its pretty much the same, but with way less nazism
Please don’t echo his misinformation. He bans people and speech he doesn’t like.
Awful British BBC NEWS reporters. BBC is WIDELY OUTDATED.
Whilst I think we would be better off without Twitter, Brazil is not the pressure point here and this is highly inconsequential. We need further action from the likes of the EU or even the UK.
Why do you support censorship like the coward you are?
While I do need Twitter to work, and I build myself a lot of things there...
I'm 100% with my country, and all of this is Elon's fault (as usual).
Hahaha you delusional coward
By "X", she means Twitter. Just saying.
So! Is Musk finally learning that he's not above the law?
Did the people of Brazil vote for the ban, or was it forced on them?
mr musk forced it himself, by not respecting Brazilian constitution.
@@Monica-kf6dt
Aw, did the tv tell you that?
Now it’s Brazil, China, and North Korea. Can you see the pattern emerging 🤦♂️
@@FunnyOrNot Twitter / X has never been allowed in China, my friend, but mr botox face musk is very happy with his business there. If you are a billionaire fan and think that only money rules, good luck, I'm not wasting my time here.
@@Monica-kf6dt
I disagree with you but I respect your right to free speech. Good day to you sir
Boycott BBC.
Maybe he should sell more Starlink to Russia - his best friends
Starlink isn't available in Russia
@@TheMagicJIZZ Yet SOMEHOW the Russian army uses it daily to kill civilians
Starlink isn't even available in Russia you ignorant NPC.
Elon needs to DO HIS RESEARCH and find his way out of this using their laws....Not Muskisms....
To those claiming this is censorship: Freedom of speech is different from using social media to commit crimes, such as spreading fake news, abuse, incitement or glorification of violence and crime, scams, forgeries, threats, etc. Just because it's social media doesn't mean there are no laws. If a company is being notified about these 'crimes,' it must follow the law and act for the safety of its users and society as a whole. Elon Musk behaves like a child, making decisions based on what suits him, and thinks that just because he's rich, he owns the world and can't be contradicted.
Arrogant MUSK
I tried Twitter/X for two days. What I saw was an endless stream of brain farts. I dumped it pretty quick.
Well you didn't read the real News items then.
@@sabejreid2072 I go to the news stations’ webpages for that.
😂😂BBC. Keep cancelling your licence fee folks. 👍
To know what haters think, I'm going to need to hear them.
And, Free Speech is necessary for people to be free, just like Elon Musk supports.
So Musk has a battle on his hands to get "Free Speech" a world wide right for every one.
Thanks Elon, for fighting the good fight.
A few weeks time will help clarify the real Brazil issues here....
A BRIC nation learning "Free Speech" is going to be difficult, to say the least...
Elon may be the best African American we have.....
Elon Musk is an evil supervillain in disguise...
Brazil government don't want FREE SPEACH👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎👎
now change Brazil with Musk and still you'll get the same results. Difference is Brazil can and will change for the better, Musk can't dintinguish is ass from his ego
Va aprender a situação daqui antes de falar. Ja foi mostrado que há pessoas e perfis falsos cometendo crimes e Musk apenas não quer acatar as leis deste país.
It's a Brazilian Federal Law every foreign country must follow: having a legal representative in Brazil so, in any legal case or any other situation, the company can be hold responsible.
You’re right
Well done Brazil. 👏👏👏👍
What is happening in Brazil is that the opposition to the government is playing dirty, trying to turn everyone against the country's government.
Everyone is against the government, Lula is hated. Bolsonaro beloved.
Like Trump?😅
Musk under pressure? Really? You guys know nothing about Brasil...
Just delete X
The only thing ol muskie is good for is taking risks with inheritance money and memeing like a true 4chan basement baby.
You can't ban something that is online.🤣
It's banned in China. And Musk loves China.
@@AB_123_AB
Brazil should be proud to join countries like China, North Korea, and Iran who ban Twitter! LOL
Censorship will never win. They are afraid of truth. Free speech is a must.
O free speech que Musk defende é o de pessoas promovendo atos anti democracia como os que o Qnon realiza. Também tivemos pessoas usando perfis falsos para atacar pessoas e instituições e esses posts continuam disponiveis.
Posts pedindo golpes contra a democracia e ate a morte. Se isso é liberdade de expressão para você e outros apaixonados pro Musk então podem ficar com o Twitter. Musk pode usar como um brinco.
X isn't under any pressure at all. He has decided he wants to live in a Free World. He doesn't want to live under totalitarianism. You could wipe out X and Elon would still be the richest man who ever lived. He's willing to risk 40 billion dollars to save free speech. Now, that is a man that deserves respect.
Banana republics are banning X anyway, Brazil has become one of them and UK is on the way. I will be using it to see different opinion or opinions I dont agree with. Thank you Mr. Musk for being there and shed light in this dark hour for humankind.
You're so alienede 😢
BBC struggles with balanced journalism
I only see Orwel's 1984 type of journalism.
The guy (X owner) wants to build an absolutist theocracy where he is the god and supreme priest.
How many BBCs is Elon Musk worth? Just an honest question.
probably about 20. by that logic he is worth millions of your entire family. Does that mean he is better than them? Nope
Well as he lost 22 billion due to incompetence.....😊
and his wife still dumped him.
Must have been bad.
BBC is worth nothing, people are forced to pay for it.
Go, Brasil!!!
Twitter got a dictator
I think you ment Brazil
@@drconflict629 I mean musk
@@universaltruth9988 You're mentally ill if you believe that. Being pro free speech is a dictator to you? Okay NPC shill.
Banned by dictators...
it seem it takes one to take another.
Brasil is not a dictatorship.
@@arctic_haze whatever. not venezuela, but also not sweden. is there any real democracy on South America?... but keep your "feelings", I'm not gonna be the one to burst your bubble.
@@Maddog-xc2zvdesculpe não estarmos ao nivel da democracia yankee. Afinal foi um grande exempli de democracia a forma como Biden assumiu a presidência, com Trump indo as mídias declarando que os juizes estão contra ele e que as eleições foram fraudadas mesmo sem provas e claro, foi um ato de civismo a passeata e manifestação "pacifica" de seus seguidores ... dentro dp Capitolio entoando canticos de "enforquem Pence". 😂
Freedom of speech must go!!!! We don’t want freedom of speech, we must be controlled 🙄🤦♂️
Every now and then I read a comment like this and think surely some hypotheticals need to be answered... In my younger days, I was also once a "free speech" warrior, but I can't ignore the exploitation and where "free speech" has necessary limits. So I ask, if there is a line, where is said line of "free speech" to you? Do you believe in the concept of incitement? Do you believe these views are applicable in your own home? Do you think it is possible for groups to harbour dangerous ideas that require intervention? Maybe my mind can be changed but I find it absurd that we can ignore cause and effect for the sake of individual freedom in spaces that we all must share.
It is overrated anyway. Screw democracy as well, heck screw freedom too.
As a brazilian I confirm that Brazil is a banana republic 🍌
"Banana republics" are the countries that allow this spoiled brat "Elmo" to do wethever he wants...
*It wasn't BANNED; it was temporalily suspended until musk appoint a legal representation again In Brazil, like he had until 2 weeks ago and simply closed it to try to escape from fines and accountability*
Brazilians will suffer from this, not Elon.
I think I'll be just fine.
I stopped using his platform a long time ago just for the sake of my mental health, bro.. way too toxic since Elon, I'm using BLUE SKY now.
who even uses Twitter lol
AGREE
O Bradil vai sofrer?.E quem nos punirá? Você? Vamos apenas rir e usar uno reverse e agir como Musk. Não vamos acatar decisões que diminuem nossa soberania por causa de leis de outro país por causa de um homem infantil e narcisista 😊
Free speech is important to the Brazilian people; just look at how many people are out protesting in Brazil 🇧🇷. The BBC doesn’t seem interested in reporting this. I wonder why.
Propagating false or inaccurate information about someone, with the aim of damaging their reputation and image before third parties. Furthermore, spreading rumors or false news on social media is considered a crime in Brazil.
if youve been on x recently you would know why Brazil is doing the right thing. The app should be banned in all civilised nations.