Knife Company Tier List (Best to Worst) 2020
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Hey, thanks for that! We're so happy to hear you like our knives and have had a good experience with us!
The person from LTW who answered my email was pretty rude.
@@_jajajaja_ were you asking stupid questions?
IMHO, LT Wright are right up there with Spyderco.
Watched video for knives and I ended up buying a new toilet seat.
Sounds kind of shitty...😧
For me, there's a hole in that approach.
I think they make a heated bidet model
The sprint runs, limited edition, etc. really bum me out sometimes. Just like “heeeyyy because you have a life outside of knives and weren’t paying attention, you weren’t fast enough to get iiiiitttt; no soup for youuuuu!!!”
@David Martin Portmann Yes
You don’t have to buy them. Sprint runs bring combinations they otherwise couldn’t do and spread the risk. They can only make so many knives. This give the knife nerds a chance at something unique. Without sprints... you only have a few options.
@David Martin Portmann They do listen. Spyderco has made a lot of knives that could have been sprint runs into production runs. they can't do it with everything.
Mike Stahl, we understand we don’t ‘have’ to buy them, just like you don’t ‘have’ to buy your limited edition Easter Oreos, but like the bulk of the knife community, you might get a touch salty when you don’t have the option to purchase them because they only made 100 boxes and you got stuck in traffic and didn’t get there in time. No, it’s not life altering but damnit, you wanted those cookies; those cookies meant a lot to you, and now your eyeing the Snackwells like some sort of Nancy boy, which you definitely are NOT!
(Nothing personal, just musing)
@@Petunia31
Haha agreed. And now that we’ve had the COVID crisis, it seems like every single enthusiast endeavor is limited due to material or production limitations. Everything from home gym equipment to the new gaming consoles, PC parts, you name it.
All of my interests now have major scalping problems, online queues, sell outs in 5 seconds etc. pre COVID, I was a bit frustrated with the Spyderco sprint run thing, but now?
I absolutely hate it and think the artificial scarcity is some toxic business practice that sustains itself because they know us knife nerds won’t say no, and if we do, well scalpers and the 3rd party pick up the slack.
Really not a fan at all anymore.
My dude, I wanna express my utmost appreciation and gratitude for these videos that you do, especially the tier lists, and those Mule Team steel lists. Not to say all the work you put in doing random edge retention testing on many many steels go unnoticed, they do not! You’re doing a huge service to so many of us and saving us so much time, energy, money, headache, etc etc and I want you to know so many of us are stoked on you and what you do. You’re a badass, thank you x1000
I agree with this tier list. I own Chris Reeves, ZTs, opinel, etc but if someone were to ask what a solid no bs folder would be, id look around, and whisper “cold steel”
I gotta go with Spyderco.
@@z33thr33 spyderco has never let me down [almost]
@@underskillednunderpaid if budget is not an issue, I'd have to lean towards Quiet Carry or Spartan Blades. I'm curious about the "almost"
@@z33thr33 Spartan is good. Never had a quiet carry. The almost is just referring to the usual, weird grind lines, uneven bevels. And a strange QC issue on my stretch
Cold steel won my heart for the year with the 4 max scout. Wanted a 4max since I first saw it, $550 was waaaay more than I was willing to pay. But now I have one, for less than 25% of that. And I couldn't be happier.
At 9:50 I could almost hear the collective "wtf" from tens of thousands of Sebenza owners. You're a bold man, Peter.
Sebenza owners don't care, they're worse than Honeybadgers😂
No sir he is correct. CRK is overrated.
They are the only company I can think of were their knife would last for a lifetime. (The edge consistancy). If I could only have 1 knife for the rest of my life it would be crk
Sebenza is a quality folding pocket knife. That’s it. This is an accurate placement for the knife.
Why cold steel has my loyalty, they were the first company to so many things in my hand that I couldn't afford elsewhere. Like my first super steel, XHP, and it wasn't in a junk knife, it was good quality with good materials and had a good heat treatment. They're still the only ones to make 3V affordable in decent fixed blades with a good heat treatment (cough benchmade cough). There goofy stuff is still well made, it's not junk just because it's gimmicky, huge bowies aren't 440A, they're O1 or 3v.
I think lionsteel has done some more affordable 3v haven’t they? But otherwise I agree with you!
Cold Steel Twistmaster!👍
Love my CS knives too. Would be nice though if they experimented with more steels like Rex45 or S90v
Benchmade fixed their 3v heat treat issues, to be fair
im still salty because of their sanmai thing. still havent bought a cold steel knife
I agree with coldsteel; I prefer a lockback over a frame/liner due to safety reasons. Keeps my fingers out of the way.
Quite happy with your assessment of Cold Steel. I think for a couple years they were considered kind of uncool. But I agree with you on their variety. And after "learning by buying" way too many knives, I happily settled on a Cold Steel Recon 1, partially serrated, with no longer available but excellent CTS XHP steel as my EDC. And I've donated fundage to acquire 7 more of his Cold Steel cousins. One of the most overrated brands is ZT. Good on paper, good looking, overpriced, light on practicality. Cheers from the Czech Republic.
Your opinion and a few dollars will get you a coffee. Cold steel is fine, zt is better in literally every way
Really good summary. Like it how you described your thought process. Keep it up!
Great work mate!
You have a lot of genuine RUclips knife friends.
This gave me a good overview of the main brands available, I found it very helpful. Thank you Sir.
Cold Steel finally gets the respect they deserve! Great list!
I'm surprised that Bestech didn't make the list. The last Benchmade (Valet) that I purchased was HORRIBLE. After I took it apart, cleaned, lubed, and reassembled it, it was passable. I don't consider them to be in the second tier. I received my first Two Sun knife today. It was impressive. Thank you for the video. I really enjoyed it. BTW, my last two CS knives are the AD-10 and 15. Not for those with tight jeans, but they are great knives.
LOVE Bestech! I think Kombu is my favorite designer.
These ranking videos are always really great, and I really like the tier list style for this kind of video. I'm already excited for next years version!
I'm also glad to see I'm not alone in my appreciation of Cold Steel. For being run by someone as crazy as Lynn Thompson: they make a ton of great stuff.
Most of my rankings would probably just be shifting stuff up or down one level from yours, except for Boker. I wish they got more love, they are one of my favorites. I get that that the Magnum ones are basically just Schrade and the German made Tree Brand ones are overpriced traditionals, but a lot of Boker Plus is really awesome. They are a little more expensive than the materials usually warrant, but in my opinion they have some of the nicest looking designs and they do a ridiculous amount of collaborations with awesome custom makers. I also tend to worry a lot about rust, so I like that they use a lot more VG-10 and 440C than D2. I'm not saying they're the best, but I've always thought they're much better than a D.
Ice_Berg I bought a Boker Plus online and was surprised at how poor the finishing is - sharp edges on the handle and thumb stud, a design that pinches my thumb as I open it, and imprecise alignment. I won’t buy their stuff again.
You are so right... I bought this Leopard damascus Gold 42 from böker and I'm looking forward to get it in my collection. I got very sad when nobody has any kind of respect for boker :(
Spydie, Benchmade...Both seem to be increasing in price like a rocket ship to Mars...
3yrs after your comment, the rocket ship is still full throttle. Absolutely ridiculous prices.
Pete 😩 I haven’t even finished the video but this content your spoiling us.
classic review buddy,super funny and couldn't agree more. thank you and great job. always a pleasure to watch! ⛲🌱
Spyderco brings high quality super steels to the masses at affordable prices... I love their sprint runs!
Though I'm a fool for it as well, it's a way to drive up prices because of demand over supply. Then causes more on 3rd party market
You've gone from being a twice a month treat to filling my feed, you sir are feeding my knife nerd spurges nicely
Great list Peter, there's a couple I don't fully agree with, but that's ok lol! So glad you're putting out more content!
Crazy how I 100% agree with this list. Great job Pete. Awesome work.
LT Wright Knives! Good stuff!
Yay for Cold Steel! I carry my AUS-10 XL Tanto Voyager every day along with my Leatherman Surge 🙌
Back in the late 90's, my first "real knife" purchase was a Gerber Paraframe, but, even as a newbie it just really didn't do it for me, I just couldn't put my finger on why though at the time, it just felt like smoke and mirrors low quality, then I found Cold Steel, it wasn't real expensive but felt so right. And that's when I got hooked on knives.
Completely agree about Cold Steel. I didn't used to be a fan but I find their quality control to be a step above other companies for the most part (price range wise). I've hardly had any issues with their knives compared to my Ka-bar, Spyderco, Tops, Ontario knives.
I know I'm late but what issues did you have with Spyderco and TOPS?
I'm a huge Kershaw fan. Mainly because my first quality knife in stainless steel was a leek. Before that I used to EDC a 70-80 year old Montgomery wards pocket knife my grandpa gave me. Nowadays I carry either a Spyderco paramilitary 3 in the new cpm S45vn or a kershaw link in cpm 20cv. Really like both of them. Usually like to use pocket knives that can open a letter and be capable of ripping open blister packs.
Even though I’m already subbed, that Futurama reference secured it for life.
Not too bad! Might take a look at Silver Stag and White River for next year. I'm glad you talk about steel. It's all about the steel.
Really enjoyed that video. It takes a bit of courage to put yourself out there like that. Really appreciate it. Have you ever had any TOPS knives? I think they make a whole lot of interesting models and do a great job with good old 1095. As an Aussie, I find quite a few of their knives are reasonably priced, too.
never had a tops but they sure do get the love from their owners
David Cooke Tops look overpriced to me. Schrade quality at Spyderco prices. Thousands of designs using the same mediocre steel and coating everything because it rusts. Yuk!
I like this video. Thanks for this. Same here love Cold Steel for what they put out. Never thought they'd make a spade but they did lol. Spyderco too!
I had to fold some laundry, so I decided to watch this video while I did it. It was great! (The video, I mean, not the laundry folding.)
Great video, great t-shirt, great as usual.
I have a soft spot in my heart for Victorinox. It's almost as soft as their blade steel. Almost but not quite
Good info and interesting content!
would love to see an updated list these days, 4 years has changed a lot with the knife game
Great List! I'm certainly gonna have to take a better look at Cold Steel now, I just wish they'd update some steel on their older models. I really like the Steel Tiger and Espada design wise, but AUS-8 is way to easy to chip for a Karambit. Tried out WE Knives this year with the Sugga, usually their designs seem very "mall knife" for me, but the Sugga was a nice median.
It'd be great to see Bradford and Reate on this list. Reate has some great machines and would be a great contender to WE. And Bradford is fixed-blade Bushcrafting knife company from Washington State. They offer some of their knifes in Elmax, and it's some of the toughest I've tried yet.
Love this video but where is Mora?
Great info, thanks. My only really big change on that list is Spyderco, benchmade n Spyderco overprice EVERY knife they make n cuz they are the 'cool' knives guys keep paying ridiculous prices. of course, that bumps up the prices even further.
But as always, I learn a lot from every one of your vids. Thanks again. Blessings.
In a SHTF scenario I have my Cold Steels and my Spydercos in my BOB , So I agree 💯% with you Steven ! I trust my life with them both
Which video is that where the ESEE knives breaks when he drops it? Would love to see it 😂
Great Vid!
You got pretty decent taste man, I tend to agree, for the most part, with your tier list
Böker deserves a higher tier, if only for the fact that they really do have a system of brands to un-muddle the waters (unlike eg. Gerber) which are far and deep, considering how many models they put out.
Böker Solingen - Made in Germany (mostly traditional designs, but some outdoor and tactical)
Böker Arbolito - Made in Argentina (mostly outdoor fixed blades, some tactical)
Böker Plus - Made in Asia (decent quality custom design collaborations, much like CRKT)
Böker Magnum - Made in China (mostly generic OEM stuff, but with Böker QC)
Totaly agree an A
Good video and nice futurama reference
Bark River use premium material, are made where the owners work not outsourced, are hand finished, use a large selection of material variety in each design, use designers works and make them production and sell at very reasonable prices. I can't see how Falkniven can compete on any of these points, I'm lost why they are youtuber darlings.
Nice list, I feel that's about right
My first knive when I started to collect was a Cold steel (OG Talwar in vg1 san mai 3) still got it.
Was waiting for this one!!!!! Yeah, that's my life.
I got a Bestech Bison D2 in carbon fibre - worth considering for the next tier list, this brand seems to have really picked things up lately - good steel (bit expensive for D2 but it seems to be very good D2), and the action is 👌 so good! Build quality is amazing as well. See if you can get a review unit of the newer stuff, I think you'll like them.
Love the Tier list videos
A jolly good time, cheers!
Cool review from a cool dude, thx.
Fwiw, all my sub $50 US Boker autos are sweet af, no issues with any of them
I agree mostly with your list you need to look at some reate knives there some of the best production knives out there i have knives from almost everyone on your list reate would be one of the best for folders great video
Very interesting video. Any comment as to why Mora did not make a show? Did they not meet a certain criteria?
I only have 4 of the brands you listed. I agree completely with the tier placement of them. The brands I have and their placement order are:
Cold steel-for the reason you mentioned, great steel, great quality, great price
Fallkniven-great quality, good steel but very limited steel choice
Bark River-good steel, bad initial quality
Gerber(AR3.5, plier tools)-one hand opening pliers are great, my 20 year old folder AR3.5 is a decent knife
Where would you place Sanrenmu (manufacturer of Ruike / Real Steel) and Ganzo?
KaBar Becker Knives are amazing and similar in quality to Esee's of the same size. Otherwise I agree in large part with your analysis. Especially putting Cold Steel and Spyderco at the top. Both awesome brands.
Good to see the tongue extension is working out well for you Mate, almost undetectible. Btw I am tongue tied myself.
Wait...no Morakniv?!? Surely the most have introduced a new color to a knife you hate enough to make the list...no?!? 🤔 smart move!😉
Morakniv and Opinel, Victorinox and even Case. Each of them at the top of their own game. You don't have to play, but you've got to give them a try👌
Esoteric except for case knives, I have the other three, which are very nice knives.
Only good thing about Mora is the price.... might as well just grab a kitchen table knife outta ur moms drawer
@@baroneb5043 Mora Garberg is a pretty decent knife by any standard.
We agree with some and not others but loved the video. Still love your video on your knife beginning. We all have our own story. Cheers from Michigan.
Where would Condor sit? I have a couple of their knives and am pretty happy with them so far.
We need to see the polish mace reviewed on the channel now.
Guarantee it's top tier for coconuts.
Almus Quotch cut test coming soon
@@CedricAda The most shocking part of this vid is that you know what Futurama is !!!!!!!!!!!!!
This video made a subscriber of me. I found your assessments of the companies I was familiar with to be spot on. Spyderco is my top tier and have just recently stepped into Cold Steel but I believe your opinion on these companies to be quite accurate and I agree a lot with what you said about some of the attitudes and marketing. I have found Benchmade to be becoming the new Case type cult in Southern America and I find them way overrated.
Spot. On.
Why do you prefer LT Wright over bark river?
forgot to add i just got a new cold steel air lite i think,the newest one anyhow i was so expecting it to be awesome...kind of disappointed the grind is just too thick,lots of sharp corners hurt my hand to whittle on a piece of oak,other than that cold steel is the bomb--still in love with some of their old japan knives and their taiwan stuff is crazy good
Any opinion about white river knives ? i want ot buy the newer model but nearly impossible to get in europe i could got an another one fom the delivery fee... ( i got a lot of cold steels and a spyderco delica with stainles steel handle vg 10 and a really old victorinox )
What do you think of Zombie Tools?
Or do you need to do a separate video on boutique knife makers?
you mentioned its hard to find custom knives. so you have any recommendations as far as a bushcraft style?
the market is so flooded and I don't know enough about steel to make an educated decision. I am learning rapidly as a I do for all my interest but Im still in the beginning stages.
I am considering LT WRIGHT but even with them im not sure what I should purchase.
Already thinking 7 months later about how this has probably changed. 2020s been a crap year, but a great year for knives. With all the stuff SOG has been doing I would warrant that they could and probably will be moving up the list. For next year some brands you could also maybe add would be Civivi, Kansept (would be interested to see whether they get placed above or below Kizer for you), Hinderer, and Reate. I've watched this video a few times already and I know my thoughts are changing on it as the year goes on.
The Radio Head analogy...thanks now Reeves knives have a sound track .
Dead on with Cold Steel.
My favorite knife brands are Spyderco, Victorinox, and Mora. You can cover all bases with those 3 brands. Honorable mentions to Buck and Cold Steel (I think Buck discontinued the Marksman though?). I don't expect innovations from Victorinox. They make some well-designed, classic products at really good prices, and nothing's made in China. I'm done supporting Chinese made stuff because buying things made in China is like supporting Nazi Germany in the 1930's. I know people don't wanna look too closely at that, but maybe it's time they do. I love Spyderco but I'm done with their Chinese lines. Same goes for all knife companies. Hong Kong, Tibet, Uyghur Muslims, fentanyl mass murder, etc etc etc. Time to sever all ties.
Exactly. That's why I have no problems to pay more for stuff. I don't support the totalitarian technocratic regime in China like our disgusting bought off elites in the world do. Who dream about the same kind of power over their people like the Communists have over their slaves. I just bought a stove made in the USA and a hot tent from Europe. Imported to Canada. Not cheap, lots of headaches with UPS and DHL. But my conscience is clean.
No more supporting a nation that commits genocide to the weak and vulnerable of there people. Shame on them and shame any one who cheats out to them for profit. That’s why all my knives are Mora’s and one knife that’s very special to me and I’m proud of is my Strong Arm made in Portland Oregon. God bless you all from Scotland 🏴
The American globalist swamp creatures love china, did you know even back when Bill Clinton was president he gave a fully guided to of all of our top military bases to top CHINESE GENERALS, the Chinese have bought an blackmailed politicians from around the world, they also lied about the source of the C-19, fauci lied about gain of function, the globalist swamp creatures released a BIOLOGICAL weapon on mankind an yet no one has payed the pioer for doing so.
I know this is an old video, but Jesus you guys really hate China that much and you really listen to the propaganda don't you??
Spot on!
Good list. I personally would move ESSE to A and move CRKT to B. The CRKT minimalist is probably my fav edc fixed blade for everyday. White river I would also be good at A rank.
Esee is an LGBQT Co. it shows with all the colors.... are they still doing their heat treat on a Weber Home Depot Grill ?
Wheres tops!?
As a native Californian I am pleased that you rated Cold Steel so high.
Hail Lynn!
Good list!
Mine would be a little different because just because I don't use a knife heavily and I'm a little cheap!
CRK, for the dough needs to step up one layer for steel, zdp, or m390, something like that.
Where is Mtech how could they not be top tier basically the same as protech right?
What lol. Mtech is gas station quality stuff. Stuff you win at the fair lol. Microtech is a different story but they aren't the same as Protech. Microtech makes a whole lot of autos but a lot of them are OTFs the only Protech I know of that is an OTF is a single action Microtech has tons of OTFs to pick from and a lot of them are DAs. I like both a lot though and Protech makes one of the best folding autos out there. See a lot of companies collaborating with them like Ferrum Forge and Arcform when they want an auto version of a knife they already make as a manual folder.
The Mtech extreme line of knives, are actually pretty decent.
@@redsorgum there best knife wouldnt even come close to cold steels worst knife. They cant even compare with any other company I would even say schrade is 10x better
🤣🤣🤣🤣
Mtech are solely useful for shanking people on a budget both literally and ironically
thanks
Haha I just read that AlMar has graduated to D2! Wow...baby steps man...baby steps
Hello i would like to ask something...whats the difference of toughness and hardness on a blade..cause in my language Greek they translate the same
I couldn't stop laughing at 18:41 with Esee.
Nice futurama reference man lol
The bit about ESSE knife steel is the funniest knife meme ever.
If you can find a better factory made knife than Bark River, I'd like to see it, also the Gerber 06 Auto in S30V and made in USA is top notch.
I have a STEEL WILL Apostate, which is a awesome knife. S35VN Steel, G10 and Titanium handles. And I carry my COLD STEEL RECON-1 every single day. Best work knife you could ever ask for.
Spot on with LT Wright, I have a patriot, camp MUK, and a Scandi genesis. I beat the crap out of the Genesis and it is still fantastic. Also, not only their knives, but the sheaths that come with them are some of the best I've used.
Few years later, shrade seems like it's gotten a little bit better but still not amazing. They have some good folders in aus10 and a few good fixed blades.
I'm still shocked that Lynn sold Cold Steel. Good for him but I don't know that I will ever be into their knives like I used to be.
No pants...subbed! 😂🤘🏻🇨🇦
I’d say your list is pretty spot on.
Cold steel and spyderco are very reliable for factory sharpness. Cold steel definitely hard tests every design. They are hard use with mediocre fit and finish and spyderco as the regular use and good fit and finish. Spyderco I love all the sprint runs despite the negative outcomes of profiteering. I think if your a spyderco fanboy you know what you’re getting into. Everyone trying to get something someone else can’t. Human nature.
I almost prefer to not know about the the politics of brands. I don’t want to know the ceo bangs dolphins on the weekend. Sometimes I just want to be ignorant of these things.
Get a Spartan Blades knife. They are a premium, but I'm trying them out now and I'm sold, thus far. Your list is spot-on in my opinion. Benchmade has me when it comes to folders due SOLELY to their axis lock. Liner locks and back locks are like trying to sell me a wood stove for my house; there are better, safer, and more reliable options than antiquated methods. My experience with Benchmade's fixed blades wasn't pleasant, but Spartan Blades seem to have nailed it. My only wish is that knife makers would pair up with multiple sheath makers for options to fit the three needs: molle, kydex, and leather. I have a custom kydex sheath for one of my knives, but I'd love a leather option that either didn't require me sending my knife off, or getting a ping-pong paddle sized sheath. A partnership like that, as a standard, would increase sales on both sides.
19:41 you got really Scottish when you said heart lmao
I agree with most I might actually pit Gerber with the c list they did the Gerber fastball in s30v and a couple other nice knifes so they seem to be moving in a better direction.
Joseph Hammett they definitely are, i reckon by next year thing will be even better
Joseph Hammett Gerber garbage.... name alone says it all.... baby food
Yeah I got an ozf002 made by lionsteel and I love the design BUT it is wayyyyyyyyy too thick behind the edge and didnt come very sharp. Not looking forward to sharpening it
where would you put houge now with that deka in magnacut
Dude I have watched all your content right I am jon I have a review channel called HeavySet Tactical and your damn list is to the company the exact same as mine! I just ordered my first 2 fallkniven s1x and a1 to review this week based on your liking of the company!
Get in touch with Giant Mouse knifes, maybe they will serve you a sample to test out.