I was waiting for this topic of narcissism/psychopathy in politics been discussed. We all are living in blindness not knowing the real source of the society problems.
Society itself is the source of our problems. What we are seeing is a direct reflection of how society as a whole has come to function. The ethos that became acceptable as long as we could keep the nasty stuff in the shadows. To share the dream being sold. To accept the abuse for a few bucks in the bank. The only thing each of us ever has any control over in our lives is our individual response to what is present. Change comes quickly when society becomes aware. The direction will be determined by the individual creating a collective response. It’s not about fighting what’s present, it is about creating what you want to be present. One person at a time influencing one person at a time. It’s the society deciding it no longer wishes to be controlled by fear and knowing that Love is the only lens that can and will create a positive outcome. We are the change and every day can be another shift in the right direction.
Exactly, this connection between fascism and anti-social personality disorder is advocated these days by dr. Bandy Lee in the US as well. (The worlds mental health coalition) Politics need a permanent shield against specifically anti-social personality disorders, otherwise the Putins, Trumps, Orbans, Hitlers and Stalins are only going to keep coming back every century.
We can see this process in our politics and social history in South Africa. This is a fantastic, elegant well crafted lecture. I feel it's up with your best Sam.
Sam has a video on this, called: Narcissistic, Psychopathic Politicians and Leaders. It explains the dynamics of their cult followers. Their mob mentality, etc.
Why have things gotten so much worse since Trump left office then? More crime, gas prices doubled, inflation, lawfare, two wars, border crisis, overt antiwhite racism, forgoing meritocracy opting instead for mandatory D.E.I. hiring.
@@cn4675 Each President inherits the product of the previous Presidency. Trump inherited (and ultimately squandered) a decent economy from Obama; Biden's done surprisingly well with the economy Trump tanked while in office. But hey...you keep chasing that rainbow, kiddo, you'll catch up someday?
Thank you as ever for continually expanding and sharing your body of work. You reaffirm my commitment to living in truth even though it isn’t popular. It has made my inner circle small but satisfying.
Thank you so much, I've been waiting for this. Already at very young age I felt obsessed with the socio political aspects of the so called "3rd Reich" and only now I understand that it explained to me all that I experienced in everyday life with my narcissistic care givers but couldn't comprehend or describe in my own words: Germany's nazi history almost seemed like an utterly dark fairytale to me ever since I was a child. This obsession only began to vanish that very moment I started to take profound interest in scientific approaches to narcisissm/psychopathy.
Thank you, Sam! 😎🕺🌊💙 The lies, the hate, the racism, the whining, the threats, the regressive freedoms, and the scale of corruption not even thinly veiled is a daily assault we feel deeply, with foreboding repulsion.
Thanks Sam. I really appreciate your lectures on politics through the lens of psychology. For mine, the psychology of certain individuals is the elephant in the room in organisations and especially political parties and the greater geopolitical landscape. In that, its socially unacceptable to call a spade a spade and call out ( potential ) leaders and heads of states for being malignant enablers (liberal centrists), narcissists and psychopaths. Or would be/wanna be fascists, let alone fascists. Obvs it's problematic to wontonly bandy about these descriptors as slurs in political areanas, hence why we dont do it. But unfortunately we suffer for this because we cant simply identify these actors for who and what they are 🙄 Sam, do you have any suggestions on how the body politic can call out fascists without such accusations degrading into a slinging match, whereby the word loses all meaning?
Who says it isn’t acceptable? Calling out one’s actions and behaviors is most certainly acceptable. Far more acceptable than lying about your opponent. These people haven’t come to power out of nowhere. The people give them the power that they have. Our politicians, as with all of our relationships, is a reflection of the inner world of the participants. What we see is the result of apathy, a lack of demanding accountability, the mindset that “nothing I do will make a difference. “ In other words, giving away one’s power, the power of the people. Enter the narcissist. Just like all abusers grooming their target, they identify with the plight of the target. They sell the ideas that “no one understands you like I do. I’ll take care of and protect you. They just want to harm you and to destroy me because I’m taking care of you.” They undermine your beliefs in everything that provides a sense of security telling you all that you have believed in were lies. You ask, who are the players? They are all in plain sight. Conspiracy in the light of day. Trump isn’t the underlying problem, he is a symptom of the narcissistic paradigm attempting to reorder the world. Do you know who Leonard Leo is? Good place to start. www.propublica.org/article/we-dont-talk-about-leonard-leo-supreme-court-supermajority Follow the money. Trump was merely a tool employed for his ability to rally a key demographic mobilized through fear. Like with Hitler, they believed he could be contained while their agenda was put forward. The end justifies the means. Change comes from the bottom up either through violent Revolution or a shifting ethos. An ethos shift is the shifting of the social compact from fear to Love. From competition to cooperation. Those are the lasting changes. There will always be challenges to those changes by those who have lost their perceived societal standing, power, and control. A shift in ethos is accomplished one person at a time. It’s achieved through thoughtful dialog with one another where it becomes apparent that we are way more alike in our thinking than not. That all humans have value. Yes all! Without the likes of the narcissists in our politics, we would not be aware of the disease within the body. What is the antidote? Open honest, kind, loving communication. Not needing to be right, but listening to understand all the perspectives. No need to agree or disagree when the goal is to find common ground. No need to agree to disagree either. Understanding that what you think you know or what you have invested in transforming thought into belief, may not be accurate. Finding real solutions requires a full broad range of perspective and thought. In my humble opinion, if you want to change the flow of this tide, address the symptoms of the disease first by being the change you want to see. And second have conscious, connected, dialog with all you come in contact with.
Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Evil never sees itself as evil. It always projects that onto those who are different. The quickest way to changing the current paradigm is to do away with the need to label good/ bad, right/wrong with a shift of consciousness to seeing things simply as they exist. Truth is that which can be expressed without words it just is. Reality is the subjective labeling through the filters and biases of the mind and are unique to each. The need to label divides leading to black and white thinking, a hallmark of narcissism, and ensures a competitive dialog. Viewing things simply for what they are, their benefits, their drawbacks, the desired outcomes allows for creative more effective responses. Viewing things simply for what they are encourages empathy, compassion, cooperation. Those high vibrational aspects of Love. Love the energy that propels and binds the Universe. Change your thinking change your inner world. Change your inner world and be a component of the elevation of humankind.
@Prof.Sam Vaknin have you seen Javier Milei in Argentina? After he was elected, my partner had to watch Hilter's speech as he said to see the parallels.
Proffessor Vaknin No Offense Just curious. From what point do you oppose narcissistic leaders in general(despite being a narcissist yourself(no offense)? From the point that a narcissistic leader causes too much inequalities and chaos in society so even from a no empathy perspective it is bad to have a narc leader and we need a less antagonistic worldwide system? But you personally are not bad economically plus with no empathy you dont care much about capitalist alienation and the more antagonism and loss of human relationships that is been caused due to alienation. But you fear that you will lose freedom of speech if the world would be filled with narc leaders? Just curious from what point of view you oppose capitalism as a narcissist and a person with no empathy(again no offense).
I was waiting for this topic of narcissism/psychopathy in politics been discussed. We all are living in blindness not knowing the real source of the society problems.
Society itself is the source of our problems. What we are seeing is a direct reflection of how society as a whole has come to function. The ethos that became acceptable as long as we could keep the nasty stuff in the shadows. To share the dream being sold. To accept the abuse for a few bucks in the bank.
The only thing each of us ever has any control over in our lives is our individual response to what is present. Change comes quickly when society becomes aware. The direction will be determined by the individual creating a collective response. It’s not about fighting what’s present, it is about creating what you want to be present. One person at a time influencing one person at a time. It’s the society deciding it no longer wishes to be controlled by fear and knowing that Love is the only lens that can and will create a positive outcome.
We are the change and every day can be another shift in the right direction.
Exactly, this connection between fascism and anti-social personality disorder is advocated these days by dr. Bandy Lee in the US as well. (The worlds mental health coalition) Politics need a permanent shield against specifically anti-social personality disorders, otherwise the Putins, Trumps, Orbans, Hitlers and Stalins are only going to keep coming back every century.
We can see this process in our politics and social history in South Africa. This is a fantastic, elegant well crafted lecture. I feel it's up with your best Sam.
Fellow South African here. Yes, I was thinking exactly the same thing.
Please discuss collective narcissism in politics & cults and how the malignant targets and manipulates the target/following.
Sam has a video on this, called: Narcissistic, Psychopathic Politicians and Leaders. It explains the dynamics of their cult followers. Their mob mentality, etc.
Very, very enlightening. Thank you, dr Vaknin
Excellent. Sir 🙏
Everything about your aims sharing your wisdom lights my heart and brain on fire in the greatest ways.
Truth. I don’t understand why this connection isn’t obvious to people. Call out narcissism everywhere it shows up. Give it nowhere to hide.
You are truly one of a kind professor ❤
As a citizen of the USA, I want to thank you for speaking out on this cancer that is spreading in my country.
Damn right, it’s a shame so many people fell into his trap.
Why have things gotten so much worse since Trump left office then? More crime, gas prices doubled, inflation, lawfare, two wars, border crisis, overt antiwhite racism, forgoing meritocracy opting instead for mandatory D.E.I. hiring.
I am voting Republican. Biden is the cancer.
@@cn4675 Each President inherits the product of the previous Presidency. Trump inherited (and ultimately squandered) a decent economy from Obama; Biden's done surprisingly well with the economy Trump tanked while in office. But hey...you keep chasing that rainbow, kiddo, you'll catch up someday?
So interesting. Thank you.
Thank you as ever for continually expanding and sharing your body of work. You reaffirm my commitment to living in truth even though it isn’t popular. It has made my inner circle small but satisfying.
respect your integrity sir!
Thank you so much, I've been waiting for this.
Already at very young age I felt obsessed with the socio political aspects of the so called "3rd Reich" and only now I understand that it explained to me all that I experienced in everyday life with my narcissistic care givers but couldn't comprehend or describe in my own words: Germany's nazi history almost seemed like an utterly dark fairytale to me ever since I was a child.
This obsession only began to vanish that very moment I started to take profound interest in scientific approaches to narcisissm/psychopathy.
Very intresting you're assessment on Peterson
Thank you, Sam! 😎🕺🌊💙 The lies, the hate, the racism, the whining, the threats, the regressive freedoms, and the scale of corruption not even thinly veiled is a daily assault we feel deeply, with foreboding repulsion.
Thanks Sam. I really appreciate your lectures on politics through the lens of psychology. For mine, the psychology of certain individuals is the elephant in the room in organisations and especially political parties and the greater geopolitical landscape. In that, its socially unacceptable to call a spade a spade and call out ( potential ) leaders and heads of states for being malignant enablers (liberal centrists), narcissists and psychopaths. Or would be/wanna be fascists, let alone fascists. Obvs it's problematic to wontonly bandy about these descriptors as slurs in political areanas, hence why we dont do it. But unfortunately we suffer for this because we cant simply identify these actors for who and what they are 🙄 Sam, do you have any suggestions on how the body politic can call out fascists without such accusations degrading into a slinging match, whereby the word loses all meaning?
No. Euphemisms and freedom don’t go together.
Who says it isn’t acceptable? Calling out one’s actions and behaviors is most certainly acceptable. Far more acceptable than lying about your opponent.
These people haven’t come to power out of nowhere. The people give them the power that they have. Our politicians, as with all of our relationships, is a reflection of the inner world of the participants. What we see is the result of apathy, a lack of demanding accountability, the mindset that “nothing I do will make a difference. “ In other words, giving away one’s power, the power of the people. Enter the narcissist. Just like all abusers grooming their target, they identify with the plight of the target. They sell the ideas that “no one understands you like I do. I’ll take care of and protect you. They just want to harm you and to destroy me because I’m taking care of you.” They undermine your beliefs in everything that provides a sense of security telling you all that you have believed in were lies.
You ask, who are the players? They are all in plain sight. Conspiracy in the light of day. Trump isn’t the underlying problem, he is a symptom of the narcissistic paradigm attempting to reorder the world. Do you know who Leonard Leo is? Good place to start. www.propublica.org/article/we-dont-talk-about-leonard-leo-supreme-court-supermajority
Follow the money. Trump was merely a tool employed for his ability to rally a key demographic mobilized through fear. Like with Hitler, they believed he could be contained while their agenda was put forward. The end justifies the means.
Change comes from the bottom up either through violent Revolution or a shifting ethos. An ethos shift is the shifting of the social compact from fear to Love. From competition to cooperation. Those are the lasting changes. There will always be challenges to those changes by those who have lost their perceived societal standing, power, and control. A shift in ethos is accomplished one person at a time. It’s achieved through thoughtful dialog with one another where it becomes apparent that we are way more alike in our thinking than not. That all humans have value. Yes all! Without the likes of the narcissists in our politics, we would not be aware of the disease within the body. What is the antidote? Open honest, kind, loving communication. Not needing to be right, but listening to understand all the perspectives. No need to agree or disagree when the goal is to find common ground. No need to agree to disagree either. Understanding that what you think you know or what you have invested in transforming thought into belief, may not be accurate. Finding real solutions requires a full broad range of perspective and thought.
In my humble opinion, if you want to change the flow of this tide, address the symptoms of the disease first by being the change you want to see. And second have conscious, connected, dialog with all you come in contact with.
You should do a video on Starmmer in the Labour party in the UK
Agreed.
I still can’t believe you’re not scared though. Those are some very evil people.
They ALL are. No good side.
Evil is in the eye of the beholder. Evil never sees itself as evil. It always projects that onto those who are different. The quickest way to changing the current paradigm is to do away with the need to label good/ bad, right/wrong with a shift of consciousness to seeing things simply as they exist. Truth is that which can be expressed without words it just is. Reality is the subjective labeling through the filters and biases of the mind and are unique to each. The need to label divides leading to black and white thinking, a hallmark of narcissism, and ensures a competitive dialog. Viewing things simply for what they are, their benefits, their drawbacks, the desired outcomes allows for creative more effective responses. Viewing things simply for what they are encourages empathy, compassion, cooperation. Those high vibrational aspects of Love. Love the energy that propels and binds the Universe. Change your thinking change your inner world. Change your inner world and be a component of the elevation of humankind.
Wellsaid
@Prof.Sam Vaknin have you seen Javier Milei in Argentina? After he was elected, my partner had to watch Hilter's speech as he said to see the parallels.
Yes. Another example of this breed of malignant narcissists. Bolsonaro, as well.
Proffessor Vaknin
No Offense Just curious. From what point do you oppose narcissistic leaders in general(despite being a narcissist yourself(no offense)? From the point that a narcissistic leader causes too much inequalities and chaos in society so even from a no empathy perspective it is bad to have a narc leader and we need a less antagonistic worldwide system? But you personally are not bad economically plus with no empathy you dont care much about capitalist alienation and the more antagonism and loss of human relationships that is been caused due to alienation. But you fear that you will lose freedom of speech if the world would be filled with narc leaders? Just curious from what point of view you oppose capitalism as a narcissist and a person with no empathy(again no offense).
Thank you Professor❤. How we can be assistive in contact with narcissist?
great