In 1st Corinthians 7: 15, paul indicated that if the unbelievers leaves the marriage, no one is bound , the marriage covenant becomes null. So u can re-marry also in this case. Violence, cheating, and all kinds of abuses in marriage are works of unbelievers. In such marriage u can divorce and remarry if u wish.
Even if I will take that a face value, the verse you quoted said if the unbeliever leaves not if you divorce the unbeliever. And let's be sincere. Paul didn't say a believer who involves in cheating and all those stuffs. He said unbeliever that is one who doesn't believe in Christ and doesn't belong to Christ that is the family of faith. Let's not try to give wrong meaning to plain statements because we want them to favour our view. When Paul said "unbeliever" he later clarified it when he said the one you marry must belong to Christ.
Brother, you got this one wrong . Bcos when a spouse starts behaving like an unbeliever by beating the wife and behaving as infidel by not being responsible. Then, the brother or sister has become a reprobate, a backslider who is no more born again but need repentance. So, in that case, if the brother or sister leave the marriage then I believe the bound is no more in existence. Meanwhile, what Dr Abel is explaining is that, it is culture that institute marriage, not the bible, and cultures are different. Moreover, bible have guides to allow such situation according to this place on the bible. That is my own submission to this.
@obinnaeleaka9443 you raised an important point that needs to be looked into as touching when a believer turns to be an unbeliever and then leaves. It's an unexplored field. But as touching culture instituting marriage that's unscriptural sir. Marriage is God's idea no cultural idea. The bible says for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife. Wedding can be cultural but marriage itself is not cultural institution. It's God's institution sir
@augustinejoshua7229 According to the scripture you cited, does it mean that a boy and a girl living together and obviously not living with parents are in marriage? I believe the answer will be NO, then it is culture's that defines when a relationship is called marriage. And that same culture has procedures to nullify it. Which, Christ Jesus and Paul have set a precedent that accommodates such situation.
@obinnaeleaka9443 sir, from the bible, the first example of marriage we saw is Adam and Even and that was done by God Himself. After that, what we have often seen is when families agree to give each others children in marriage and the marital dues are payed. Anytime families give each others children and the marital vows are payed, the scriptures recognize that union. The process of how that is done varies from culture to culture. But what is certain is that the families agree and the marital rights are paid. The marital rights to be payed and how that is done varies from culture to culture. But once that is done, the are married and so long they want to follow God's will in marriage, that marriage cannot be terminated based on any cultural prescription but biblical prescription and that is only possible by death or marital unfaithfulness. Divorced is only permitted on the grounds of marital unfaithfulness and Remarriage is only allowed on the ground of the death of the partner or when one marries an unbeliever and the unbeliever leaves( this second point is still contended due to the indirect term used in the Bible to address that.) Anything outside this is outside what the bible allows
Oga you are preaching on top of another man's teaching. Teach your own let's ask you questions. The man dr abel damina teachings has delivered me from the power of sin without shouting fire fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
How many spouses have gone in the hands of their spouses because of domestic v because they stayed and not wanted to divorce. A point in case is one of nigeria’s famous female gospel singers.
Thank you sir shedding light on this matter! I encourage us to also consider these scripture passages: Deuteronomy 24:1-4, Malachi 2:16, Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:3-10, Mark 10:4-12, 1 Corinthians 7:10-16, 26-27, 39. Shalom! May the Lord have mercy on our homes and marriages and keep us from all the lies and deception of satan in Jesus name. Amen.
Hmmm! Christianity ! Christianity is not bread and Fanta likewise marriage. In my observation about Africans, we might be Christians in trusting in the name of our Lord Yeshua by worshiping Him but not in marriage. Firstly Matt 19:8 and Mark 10:4-12 answered Deuteronomy 24:1-4. While Malachi 2:16 gives an insight to the criteria for marriage. Now the reason I mentioned that Africans are not Christians in marriage is this: you cannot put an old wine into a new bottle. Now from what the preacher mentioned about marriage is cultural, is totally absurd for a Christian because man made culture is based on emotion and Jehovah Yahweh doesn’t reason from emotional point of view and this is why Malachi 2:16 comes to playing when it comes to marriage. The preacher also mentioned in some culture the man would have to go knock on the door of brides 3 times before marriage is established and in Africa we have different cultures thus in this scenario people will be limited to only marrying from their culture because all of these cultures are not Christ like and never predicated on the bible. And this is one reason Christianity in Nigeria is not standing because “they Christian” are using one hand in holding their man made cultures and using another hand in holding the bible. Jehovah Yahweh gives us all profound understanding of His words in Yeshua name.
We normally agree to narratives on the bible when it aligns with our own orientation. I don't agree that sexual immorality is the exception for a man to divorce his wife. Jesus lived and taught under Jewish laws, customs, and traditions. Under the law if a married woman was sexually immoral she would be killed, therefore the husband would be free of her and the need for divorce obsolete. Think about this very well .The king James version said fornication.
I think the first rule in understanding the bible is to have no sentiment. To come with a neutral mind to understand what the bible was communicating. In the words of Jesus devoid of sentiments, the only exception to divorce is in the case of fornication. Now weather you choose to call it fornication or sexual immorality, the key point is infidelity what we call adultery. Where a man or a woman sleeps with someone who isn't their partner. So what to note is the fact that there is only one exception given by Jesus. That's the key point
With all these talks, marriages in the church are very fragile while our fathers and mothers who had no church marriages were more stable because marriage is cultural, so Pastor Abel Damina is right.
Christianity is not by force, you can follow culture and tradition and be ready for possible consequences. The Bible is too clear on this subject and if we claim to be Christians, we must be ready to follow the scriptures. I think the problems with many of us is we want to have our cake and eat it at the same time. If you don't want to go through the torment of wrong marriage, then choose wisely, be sure God is involved and always carry all your challenges in it to him for solutions. People who trust in God also have testimonies of blissful marriage without any reason to consider divorce. Those who trust in God and seem to have challenges also have testimonies of God seeing them through the challenges.
We need people like this brother in helping us correct the erring pastors. They are many and very eloquent, motivational and speak convincingly hence their members thought they were right.
All of the ministers except 1 I heard dealt with this,got it right. Fornication is not adultery. Jesus said for fornication and he meant it. Culturally I can understand how the fornication came about. But everyone wants to push his own belief system.
That's right marriage is to be enjoyed. But what we are saying is if one chooses to leave marriage because of domestic violence or abuse, there is no scripture supporting them to Remarry.
One of the biggest problems in the body of Christ is that some so-called Christians take and make some "preachers" super stars and thus take their words as authority even above the words of Christ. Dr Abel just blasphemed here and you can see some " pastors" nodding their head to error because they too don't know any better. What a shame!Some Christians are looking for an avenue to live as sinners with and under false teachings. God help you.
Then, it is expedient that we choose wisely and especially with God's guidance. Because, scripturally, it's a no going back venture IF WE WANT TO BE SCRIPTURALLY RIGHT AND SEE THE GOD OF THE BIBLE AT THE END OF OUR SOJOURN HERE
The toxicity is from our lusts and expectations, don't pick up any woman or man and marry, lower your expectations From your partner but push yourself to protect, nurture and establish the Union in Grace and holiness...
We need to be serious about this issue because many are dying in their marriage only because they told them divorce is rebellion or most of they are facing heart attack, aneurysm and wounds. In case i have a sister who divorce, will i be happy to see her staying without remarrying for the rest of her life ? In many christians marriages, most of the couples pretend and hypocrisis occurs because even if it is not working they stay because they were told not to divorce. I think we always believe that marriage is from God but it is from men. God is teaching us relationship to keep our marriage. Jesus did not come to marry as to give money. Human marriage is emotional. But by knowing Jesus, we will know how to stay in marriage. Now the divorce in the bible, is it not figurative ? Because marriage in the bible is Jesus and his church :relationship. Anyway let us consider also your thoughts
You are very right brother. The problem is soft landing. Instead to stick to Jesus Christ and his truth we try to use traditions of men to qualify HOLY GOD instructions. Unforgiveness is another reason why people look for these human knowledge to devoice.
Yes Jesus didn't measure domestic violence, did he mentioned smoking. My guy Jesus didn't have to mention it. Two cannot cannot and can't expect they agree.
There is nothing I appreciate like sincerity. Accepting wrong when it is seen. It makes one able to trust your words and judgement in the future, and accept that you are not just out to win a debate. Thanks for being sincere. Others will only keep calling you names even when truth is starting them in the face.
Yeah Bro. Checking for myself, I found d exception to d rule of divorce. N av asked d corrector. Divorce should not b contemplated according to Mat. 5. But a proviso opens d window for whoever fulfills d condition. A believer could sue for divorce on proven n valid instances of sexual sins by her or his partner. There is no any other ground for divorce except sex outside marriage, or adultery. So if a brother or sister went d length of legal battles to secure it, r they now exempted from d punishment of staying single for life ? Otherwise of what value or advantage is d exemption. Law doesn't permit double jeopardy for d seeker of justice. U separated from ur adulterous wife n u nao remain single for life, where is justice here ? N God is a righteous Judge, no b so ? 😀
@hilaryigwe9100 No one says you can't leave a marriage with Domestic Violence. What we are saying is that there is no scriptural provision for yiy to Remarry if you leave such a marriage
@romanokaberia9539 this man has no power or knowledge to correct Damina. That's a statement from someone who seems to follow blindly. Study the word for yourself brother
Thank you my brother, we no longer have churches, we have social centres. The new age pastors have twisted the scriptures to suit their greed and lust. Where does the bible call marriage cultural? He said they did not teach marriage well in Christianity. If the teaching we have from the bible is not well scripted, where did he get his own from? He said a man’s blood is still hot, does he know that this statement of a man not being able to control themselves is African mentality. The woman they caught in adultery was hot also. So men and women should learn to control themselves against sin, than trying to say a man can change women because they lack self control. Christians, follow the word of God and not word of these pastors. If they preach, be like the berean Christians and go and cross check in the bible. If it is contrary, throw what they say away. We have pastor wolves in the body of Christ today. If we become misled, you have yourself to blame before God, because you are to follow Jesus, the author and finisher of your faith. God will not strike Pastor Daminq, as God is also waiting for him to change as he is waiting for unbelievers to give their lives to him. Follow God’s word. The bible said we should test all spirit to check if they are of God. This spirit speaking through Pstor Daminq is not of God. God save us all.
Thank you rra for that explanation! I agree with you and people should always refer to the bible because everything is explained clearly in the bible for all the christians to read and understand stop taking thing from the mouth of your pastors. This issue of divorce is clearly explained in Matthew 5:31
Be careful dear brother, doctrines were made for man and not the other way round. You are arguing with the man of God at the expense of the sheep. Your message upholds the church doctrine but it has not consolation for the broken hearted. Its easy for you to obey because you have a good marriage. Many are going through pains. What they need to hear is not stand of the church... Or in your words...The Bible is not in support of divorce. I know of a Pastor who domestically abused hisnwife for years, she had to return back home to her parents. the pastor angrily remarried another woman. So according to you, she should wait for him to die even when her family has annulled the bond. We thank God for people like you that will uphold Bible doctrines. But that is not a message. The message is the salvation of man and following Christ as His sheep. Get your own message not countering those that are speaking. Your words are not to men of God but to encourage the Sheep. You are so blinded by arguing with Abel Damina, you failed to realise men/women in millions living in broken homes watching your message looking for encouragement. It seems your call is majorly church doctrine. What we need is indepth teaching about how to find peace and endure in a troubled home. You are right about the stand of God on marriage but remember that even marriage will pass away with the traditions of this world. The samaritan woman that had many husbands would have been confused in our day with our many rules. What of men that are married to many wives and get saved. Do they send the woman away because Gods design was one man and one woman? You only present an ideal situation not always the real. Few go into marriage with a mindset of divorce. Immaturity and lack of discipleship have placed many into relationships that are toxic, even fatal. The mind of Christ is Healing.. ..for the soul and for the marriage, not because it s a rule No Divorce..but because of the complete salvation of everyone... This benefit is even for people who have married wrongly in the past. I am not for divorce, but that not our message. Even the person that asked the question in the Video asks just to trap the man of God. Jesus was so full of wisdom when men asked him such kind questions,Jesus always drew their minds back to what was most important. He addressed matters from the roots. So please when you criticise such teachings, have alongside a balanced teaching on such topics to guide your congregation which are of mixed multitude and provide encouragement to the wounded. The devil takes our statement and tells the weak that the Church is not a place for them. Whereas the world embraces them with destructive hands. They do not understand so they are weak. God will help you brother.
@MamaAsks well, Maybe you could check out my responses to others in the comment session who are sincerely asking questions when they are lost. My main point on this video is to reprove people who quote the scripture or twist their scripture to support their position. When the church, I think In Corinthians ask Paul certain questions, He first admitted that he didn't receive any instructions from the Lord on that subject. But went on to advice them based on his own judgement under the spirit of God. The man in this video went ahead to misquote a Bible to support his claim. This is the very heart of what I am addressing.
@@MamaAsksI am sorry but i personally can't tolerate Foolishness. These are the last days and the Bible says men will grow itchy ears and they can't stand the truth as you are doing right now. How do you come over here to see the creator of this video clearly saying what scriptures are saying and you are there saying he is talking from church doctrine? Are you saying you don't want to listen to what the scripture is saying or what? Are you saying the scriptural template for this issue is not potent enough to tackle the marital chaos of these present times? Or you think we should go extra Biblical to invent methods to tackling marital issues? I don't think your case is foolishness but an hardened heart which makes you to refute the truth. And your words about this host here is in a way deceptive and showing an untrue claim to what he is actually saying here. Even your advice is unnecessary as it's a deviant from the subject matter. I hope you are mentally ok? Cuz if not for the fulfillment of the above mentioned end time prophecy unequivocally scripted by the scriptures, i wonder why someone with their right frame of mind would come here to see a person clearly interpreting the scriptures about marriage and still want to argue or twist the perspectives. Its actually a devilish act.
1Cor 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. Notice that, the brother is not bound by the law hence is free to marry
This particular point is a little complex which could mean exactly what you just pointed here or might not mean that exactly even though your point here seems to be the logical meaning of that text
@thetruegospelministries he did not misinterpret the scriptures in your opinion and I respect your opinion. But I have a different opinion. So what do we do now? Well, I believe the whole point is for all to come to a knowledge of the truth. Hence, I have pointed out where I believe he was wrong in this video. So maybe you point them out one after the other and let's discuss them. God bless
🎉the Bible said only death brings permanent separation. But when the spouse is alive she is still bond to that marriage, even though you are divorcing her. 1 Corinthians 7:39-40. And Jesus also said He hate divorce.
What this man is saying is when one partner is dead..then the other is free to re marry.....but he has not answered the question at all......whose desciple is this man......he is misquoting the scriptures
Don't follow any misleading doctrine or leader pls test all spirits . Don't be a sensual. Christian but a spiritual one. The host just delivered the truth, he will go far. But Woe unto demonic doctrines that wants to make sure the children of GOD goes to hell ignorantly by committing adultery
With great humility, someone should remind Dr. Damina that marriage is not cultural but spiritual... culture has never is never and will never be exalted above the spiritual.. it's spirit before it comes to be physical. That's why we are discouraged from sexual impurity for it's sin against our own body..
Why do we like taking sides in everything? Wisdom is good but we are to get understanding in all our getting. I understand the perspective he's speaking from. If you say marriage is spiritual and not cultural, so can we exempt cultural practices while getting married as he illustrated? Let us stand for truth if truly the spirit of truth is in us.
Marriage is cultural. Okay, say sth about marriages that took place before Christianity was brought to you from western world when you've never known anything about Christ
It was Paul opinion and none of us were called to follow Paul rather we were call to follow Christ. Most Christian always thought that Paul is Christ. Paul was human and he also had human judgement in some of his thoughts and actions. What makes two people to divorce is because they had issues that they can't forgive each other. So, lack of forgive and selfish paved way for divorce.
Dr Damina's reference to the verse was Eren wrong. I was surprised they don't even want to look at the fact that he Misquoted the words which I clearly showed. Only one disciple of Damina actually acknowledged that yes he Misquoted the verse. That's the sincerity I even hoped to at least even see from some people before they even start airing their opinion.
@@augustinejoshua7229 I use to respect him, but with this I don't trust him. If the existence of love of husband is what we should use to determine couple being together, that means if we all don't love every partner we marry we can always change them anytime.
That is what you have unconsciousely learnt from Pentecostal movement. Its heresy The message of salvation came to the gentiles through Paul. And we are to build on the apostle teachings. Imagine a world where christians' families including pastors' are having children from different parent in family. The same man taught that marriage is like salvation and said salvation is eternal and now he is saying marriage is an agreement. Salvation must be agreement thing too. It is time for people start studying the scripture for themselves.
So unforgiveness is permitted in your own doctrine. But Jesus said if you have a disagreement with anyone, go and settle it first before offering your gift or prayers to God or else your prayers will not be answered
Take it easy sister. This is not about trending. It's about the truth. Analyse the truth presented and if you don't agree with it, tell me why so we can reason. That's how to edify one another beloved
People should read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to teach them. People under this man's ministration should be careful. Saint Paul immersed himself in the work of God that he remained single, never slept around. Why would a man of God not have self control? Who told Damina that carnal married Pastors can't sleep around?
What has Dr Damina to say about Jesus' teaching on marriage in Mathew 19. Where does he get his insights ( which contradict the whole counsel of God) from.
Bro i jusr want to thank u .we need people like u.abel brings heresies but i am happy with ur explanation it is very clear and i know heaven is happy with u thank u
The issue of marriage is the joining of two families, Paul is saying do not divorce but when you are being divorced you are free. We are called for peace ✌️
I guess we see what we want to see, clearly no point debating what we both can read. As for me, I won't stay single if one divorces me. Christian or not, I love my sex and Paul clearly commands that we should not deprive one another.
@evafricatech but the bible never said if one divorces you, you can Remarry. Let's be sincere brother. If there is such a verse, maybe I don't know. You could paste that verse let me see it
I think people just want to have their cake and eat it. If you want to be a Christian, remain one and obey the scriptures-palatable or not. Otherwise, denounce Christianity and leave your life to the fullest (bearing in mind the consequences or at least be prepared for it). That's why you have to choose wisely and like the scriptures and many good men of God advise- let God guide your choice. As far as the scriptures is concerned, once you're married, you are married till death do both of you part. So, it's not a must to be a Christian abeg
I am not against remarrying but how do we reconcile this message with the words of our Lord Jesus Christ in Matt 19:9; Mark 10:11-12. which was referenced to by Apostle Paul in 1Cor 7:10-11?
For domestic violence parties do not need to divorce. There is judicial separation which will diffuse the tension. The parties will be apart for some time but are not divorced.
God bless you my brother. Please add Romans 7:2-3, Matt 18:21-22 and Malachi 2:14 to show that believers are to forgive and not divorce their spouses. No room for divorce and remarry hence your spouse is alive. You can only divorce and stay unmarried.
1 Corinthians 7:40 40 But she is happier if she abide as she is, after my judgment: and I think that I also have the Spirit of God. What is your understanding of this verse? Was the instruction from God or Paul?
Oga teacher, all these you've said now, how many churches follow this. They now pray for single mum to remarry in same church. Not everything in the bible are original. Read scroll if you can lay your hands on it. If you want to live all your life with bible writing, you'll be confuded because same bibe said to apply wisdom. Domestic violence in marriage managing killed Osinachi. Same bible said time will come women would queue to marry just one man. Is it not happening gradually? Where should we keep those prophecy
You are mixing up different parts of the Bible beloved. And then, we didn't say one must remain in a home with domestic Violence. We are saying there is no biblical provision for remarriage if such a one leaves.
I love this question 😅sir.. The bible will always sound confusing because of lack of proper explanation. Even Jesus our Lord explained the bible, so it's now our generation that knows very well, so let's read the Bible like an English book😊
Brother, you have actually said it all. But my question is this ooooòooòo, why are some pastor's who are surpose to be correcting us on this very serious issue, are the very once having 2 wives. Sorry oooooooooo, because I really really want to know ooooooòooò.i have always been telling people to read the BIBLE for themselves in case such a message comes up like this. God bless you richly sir. Thank 😊
bible needs to be taught…. lay man understanding of scripture is senseless. How do you continue to live with a spouse who goes to consult wizards and who is violent with potential to kill you? Why pple say christians are silly
@@augustinejoshua7229 how? If you really Want to understand God, go and read the original and the first bible not the ones that has been converted and are contradicting each other. The God I serve is not a contradicting God. If God allow men to marry more than one wife in the old testament, what is the teaching by the church that God does not allow that? Where in the bible in the new testament did Yeshua our Lord says men should not. Are you telling me now that God is contradicting himself? Today church is doing pick and chose. They pick tithing from old testament and forget about other rules in the old testament. Who are we deceiving? No man can deceive God. Religion has caused more harm too much harm to this world because they have deviated from the true gospel. Love God with all your heart and love your neighbours as yourself. Churches don't teach that anymore, churches are now business that any body can just rise up and said God called. How can you have 2 to 3 churches in one building or opposite each other. Even the main divisions is in Christianity. They are just pretending to be united but they are far from unity. Why was some books removed from the bible? Check the history and understand how the books in the bible was put together. There are a lot of contradiction in the bible today. The Bible we are reading today does not represent God the creator of heaven and earth very well. There are many questions I can ask you now that you can not be able to answer.
@michaelwilliams, rather, do not allow your fleshly inclination blindfold you. It's not a must you identify with Christianity. You can denounce Christianity and join yourself with faiths and bodies that agree with your sentiment. The scripture(Bible) is too clear on this matter to be misinterpreted just for one's selfishness
Hello sir, oga pastor corrector, what now happens to a brother or pastor who fulfills biblical condition of divorce to his wife on valid grounds of adultery as accepted by Jesus ? Would he now b free to remarry having met d laid down rules by Moses or Jesus christ ? Or would he be condemned to staying single for d rest of his life carrying d burden n suffering of d sins of his wife ? Assuming d brother or pastor is a young man of 36 years ? Same thing goes for d wife if she validly divorced her husband on charges of adultery ? Being so young woman at 34 should she now stay single for d rest of her life paying for d sins of her divorced ex husband ? Abeg kindly respond to my posers.
To start with, I think the "Oga pastor Corrector" is not necessary." But that not withstanding, I will answer this question based on my current level of understanding of the word's of the Bible. It first says . Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.” Matthew 9:8-10 If You ask me, I will say, the word Except means something is exempted. We have two things here. 1. Divorce his wife 2. Married another. In this translation, which is NIV, the "except" came between the divorce and marrying another. If you ask me based on English, I might say the except is only restricted to the divorce and not having the marrying another included. Which is to mean, you should only divorce your wife on condition of adultery and even with that, you are not permitted to marry another since the except was only restricted to the divorce. And Jesus from the beginning was addressing the issue of divorce and not remarriage. If I will apply this rule to the words of Jesus, I will say Jesus permitted divorce on grounds of adultery but no remarriage. If you apply the except to both Divorce and Remarriage, I will then say on the grounds of adultery, you can divorce and Remarry. So it depends on if the except is for both the divorce and the remarriage. But since I am unable to currently establish if the except has the divorce and Remarriage combined, I will need to check other parts of the Bible for maybe further instructions. And that took us to the words of apostle Paul, who later said if you divorce your spouse, you have to remain single and if you can't remain single, then forgive your spouse and be reconcile d. He clearly noted that the only condition for remarriage is if your spouse dies. He also added another statement which is still disputed. That is, if you are married to an unbeliever and the unbeliever leaves, you are no longer bound. That no longer bound, does it mean no longer bound to he covenant of marriage and hence you can Remarry or no longer bound to what? If you want, we could now head to the words of Paul to explore further. Thanks
@@augustinejoshua7229 thank u sir. I asked in order to b sure of ur position cos am often bombarded with d same poser. N av always made my position known vis d cross is bigger than any offence committed against ourselves on earth. If d cross upon which d savior was laid tortured n nailed can't accommodate adultery offences a self confessed believer will find after life tough to exit to eternal life. For me sir, there is no offence bigger than d cross, adultery inclusive after all marriage ends here on earth. But for scholarship n clarity I proded u. Thanks for taking ur time to respond to me. D Lord Jesus Christ bless u richly.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Please! Dying is not physically giving up ghost only! Irresponsibility, abusiveness, denial of sex to a partner is a characteristic of a dead partner! Damina is right!
You have sincerely put it as it is.Dr Abel said some Christians are introducing sentiments into it. But he is the one that introduced sentiments into it by alluding to the perceived difficulty in the christian who separated from his spouse to remain single or reconcile with the spouse. Even Jesus Christ, our Lord, Himself admitted that his teaching was difficult, hence he said all men would not accept this teaching. So, that is what it is.Take it or leave it.
I love this comment. It's easy to accuse others of introducing sentiments when in reality, you are the one introducing sentiments. Accusing others is easy.
Did he not say that marriage is cultural? I believe that marriage is cultural! Our culture is different from the cultures of the others! If marriage is not working! Instead of abuse or domestic violence, you better divorce to save life. We don't even do 10% of what the bible requires from us as Christians but we are trying our best. Why are we doing cherry picking when it comes marriage? What about 👖 debate lol
@@augustinejoshua7229 tell me the difference in your culture/ language. Stop using English language to confuse yourself!! You did not answer any of my questions. Why?
@@augustinejoshua7229 stop beating around the Bush! Answer my question or you stop replying to me. Your question makes no sense! Truth is bitter! Go and answer the question, if not don't reply to me please. All the best
@onelove4all marriage is cultural how? Show one verse of the Bible that says marriage is cultural. You can say wedding is cultural but never marriage. Marriage is God's ordinance not any culture. That's the simple fact. Your first point is what I am addressing. You asked many questions. I am addressing them one after the other
Well but the same bible said if ( according to my own understanding in case of domestic violence or abuse) the woman or man divorces his or her wife she must remain unmaried.
With the level of domestic violence in Christian homes today which has even led to death of many, if only on the ground of adultery that divorce must happened, what about separation of the two to avoid more further damage or more domestic violence, is the bible not in support of it?
While there is no bible verse that speaks against separation due to domestic Violence, at the same time there is no bible verse that support remarriage after separation. But we know the bible says if one separates, they must remain unmarried so long the other partner is still alive. If they can't stay single, they should be reconciled
In the same Charpter PAUL said "At thou loosed from a wife seek not a wife but if thou marry thou have not sinned" and I believe this is for the unbelieving men who are already divorced before coming to know the LORD and not for those who are in the LORD. Bless you bro.
Some translation will say are you bound to a wife, seek not to be free. Are you free from a wife? Seek not a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned. It could mean what you said or could be referring to single unmarried men
@@michaelwilliams8925 apostle Paul was saying if you are separated from your wife,don't seek another woman but reconcile with your wife . apostle Paul was dealing with the problem he met in the church,he never encouraged Christians to marry another woman but to reconcile with their previous wives. In the church of Corinthians apostle Paul address issues like divorce, marriage, leadership, accountability. But he address the church of the Jews About the new covenant because the Jews never accepted Jesus.
The scriptures in total is the word of God. It cannot be separated into a Jesus or Paul said. 1cor. 7 tells of conditions for divorce, after much efforts at reconciliation.
In the bible, the Bible mentioned everything that is a sin. Show me in the Bible where the Bible says marrying two or more wife is a sin. Is it not the same bible that says in the old testament that if you marry two wives that you must love them equally? I need answers.
Assuming,how so? When it comes to the word of God there's no assumption,but doing and living according to the word of God, go and read your Bible, we not sugar coating when it comes to the word of God. Know the truth and it shall set you free.
If a woman is abused, must she stays till she's murdered, when we know d devil is a murderer. Haven't u heard, Jesus says man was not made for d law. Life is more important than law on marriage. Abuse is even as worse as adultery. Both causes emotional and psychological trauma
We never said a woman who is abused must remain in the marriage. We only said there is no scriptural provision justifying her to Remarry if she leaves.
Every country has laws governing marriage. Many Christians marry in the court as well as the church. As long as you carry the certificate of marriage issued by the legal system, you have to abide by the rules of the legal system. Wisdom is the principal thing, with all thy getting get understanding.
God bless u dear brother for taking ur time to explain it the right way. I hope people will listen to u. Every thing u just said is the pure undiluted word of God as it is.. May God save his people from all these wolf in sheep clothing.
Jesus states that divorcing a mate on the grounds of immorality frees the offended mate to remarry without committing adultery. Paul upholds the idea of permanency in marriage, whether it be to a believer or unbeliever, yet gives permission for a believing mate to separate if deserted by an unbeliever. However, times have changed with the different kinds of damaged humans we have in this generation. Thus, apart from infidelity, if remaining in a relationship will cut short your life; RUN and live. These days, people get strokes, etc from troublesome spouses
Jesus didn't directly said that divorcing a spouse on the ground of adultery frees the other partner from remarrying. It's only and inference from what he said not a direct statement
Brother please let's consider these verses: Romans 7:2-3; 1 Corinthians 7:39 -any Man or Woman who leaves his or her spouse as a Christian should remain unmarried as long as the spouse is still alive -that is the LAW that binds them not marriage rites -this doctrine is applicable to christians not the unbeliever
In 1st Corinthians 7: 15, paul indicated that if the unbelievers leaves the marriage, no one is bound , the marriage covenant becomes null. So u can re-marry also in this case. Violence, cheating, and all kinds of abuses in marriage are works of unbelievers. In such marriage u can divorce and remarry if u wish.
Even if I will take that a face value, the verse you quoted said if the unbeliever leaves not if you divorce the unbeliever. And let's be sincere. Paul didn't say a believer who involves in cheating and all those stuffs. He said unbeliever that is one who doesn't believe in Christ and doesn't belong to Christ that is the family of faith. Let's not try to give wrong meaning to plain statements because we want them to favour our view. When Paul said "unbeliever" he later clarified it when he said the one you marry must belong to Christ.
Brother, you got this one wrong . Bcos when a spouse starts behaving like an unbeliever by beating the wife and behaving as infidel by not being responsible. Then, the brother or sister has become a reprobate, a backslider who is no more born again but need repentance.
So, in that case, if the brother or sister leave the marriage then I believe the bound is no more in existence. Meanwhile, what Dr Abel is explaining is that, it is culture that institute marriage, not the bible, and cultures are different. Moreover, bible have guides to allow such situation according to this place on the bible.
That is my own submission to this.
@obinnaeleaka9443 you raised an important point that needs to be looked into as touching when a believer turns to be an unbeliever and then leaves. It's an unexplored field. But as touching culture instituting marriage that's unscriptural sir. Marriage is God's idea no cultural idea. The bible says for this reason a man will leave his father and mother and be united to his wife. Wedding can be cultural but marriage itself is not cultural institution. It's God's institution sir
@augustinejoshua7229 According to the scripture you cited, does it mean that a boy and a girl living together and obviously not living with parents are in marriage? I believe the answer will be NO, then it is culture's that defines when a relationship is called marriage. And that same culture has procedures to nullify it. Which, Christ Jesus and Paul have set a precedent that accommodates such situation.
@obinnaeleaka9443 sir, from the bible, the first example of marriage we saw is Adam and Even and that was done by God Himself. After that, what we have often seen is when families agree to give each others children in marriage and the marital dues are payed. Anytime families give each others children and the marital vows are payed, the scriptures recognize that union. The process of how that is done varies from culture to culture. But what is certain is that the families agree and the marital rights are paid. The marital rights to be payed and how that is done varies from culture to culture. But once that is done, the are married and so long they want to follow God's will in marriage, that marriage cannot be terminated based on any cultural prescription but biblical prescription and that is only possible by death or marital unfaithfulness. Divorced is only permitted on the grounds of marital unfaithfulness and Remarriage is only allowed on the ground of the death of the partner or when one marries an unbeliever and the unbeliever leaves( this second point is still contended due to the indirect term used in the Bible to address that.) Anything outside this is outside what the bible allows
Oga you are preaching on top of another man's teaching. Teach your own let's ask you questions. The man dr abel damina teachings has delivered me from the power of sin without shouting fire fire 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
Delivered you from the power of which sin exactly?
How many spouses have gone in the hands of their spouses because of domestic v because they stayed and not wanted to divorce. A point in case is one of nigeria’s famous female gospel singers.
Thank you for the clarity.
In any case, divorce and remarry is not an unpardonable sin!
Unpardonable?
Thank you sir shedding light on this matter!
I encourage us to also consider these scripture passages: Deuteronomy 24:1-4,
Malachi 2:16, Matthew 5:32, Matthew 19:3-10, Mark 10:4-12, 1 Corinthians 7:10-16, 26-27, 39.
Shalom!
May the Lord have mercy on our homes and marriages and keep us from all the lies and deception of satan in Jesus name. Amen.
Amen and amen. You could also share with us your understanding on those verses. God bless
Hmmm! Christianity ! Christianity is not bread and Fanta likewise marriage. In my observation about Africans, we might be Christians in trusting in the name of our Lord Yeshua by worshiping Him but not in marriage. Firstly Matt 19:8 and Mark 10:4-12 answered Deuteronomy 24:1-4. While Malachi 2:16 gives an insight to the criteria for marriage. Now the reason I mentioned that Africans are not Christians in marriage is this: you cannot put an old wine into a new bottle. Now from what the preacher mentioned about marriage is cultural, is totally absurd for a Christian because man made culture is based on emotion and Jehovah Yahweh doesn’t reason from emotional point of view and this is why Malachi 2:16 comes to playing when it comes to marriage. The preacher also mentioned in some culture the man would have to go knock on the door of brides 3 times before marriage is established and in Africa we have different cultures thus in this scenario people will be limited to only marrying from their culture because all of these cultures are not Christ like and never predicated on the bible.
And this is one reason Christianity in Nigeria is not standing because “they Christian” are using one hand in holding their man made cultures and using another hand in holding the bible.
Jehovah Yahweh gives us all profound understanding of His words in Yeshua name.
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Bro. Augustine thank you for your simple and accurate explanation.
You welcome
God bless you sir ! Heaven is happy for you on this sir.
Amen amen
Wedding may be cultural,but marriage is not. It is scriptural. It was not man’s creation,but God’s!!!!!
That's right
Am very impressed with this man's explanation on marriage and what the bible says on it.
Really?
We normally agree to narratives on the bible when it aligns with our own orientation.
I don't agree that sexual immorality is the exception for a man to divorce his wife. Jesus lived and taught under Jewish laws, customs, and traditions. Under the law if a married woman was sexually immoral she would be killed, therefore the husband would be free of her and the need for divorce obsolete. Think about this very well .The king James version said fornication.
I think the first rule in understanding the bible is to have no sentiment. To come with a neutral mind to understand what the bible was communicating. In the words of Jesus devoid of sentiments, the only exception to divorce is in the case of fornication. Now weather you choose to call it fornication or sexual immorality, the key point is infidelity what we call adultery. Where a man or a woman sleeps with someone who isn't their partner. So what to note is the fact that there is only one exception given by Jesus. That's the key point
With all these talks, marriages in the church are very fragile while our fathers and mothers who had no church marriages were more stable because marriage is cultural, so Pastor Abel Damina is right.
Are we to follow bible or philosophy
Christianity is not by force, you can follow culture and tradition and be ready for possible consequences. The Bible is too clear on this subject and if we claim to be Christians, we must be ready to follow the scriptures.
I think the problems with many of us is we want to have our cake and eat it at the same time.
If you don't want to go through the torment of wrong marriage, then choose wisely, be sure God is involved and always carry all your challenges in it to him for solutions. People who trust in God also have testimonies of blissful marriage without any reason to consider divorce. Those who trust in God and seem to have challenges also have testimonies of God seeing them through the challenges.
Thank you sir.God bless you.
Dr.Damina must do restitution.
God will help us
Thanks Sir for your position, God bless you and make your voice universal
Amen and may God help us understand better where we are wrong
This man is Mr hell, he thinks everyone is blind to the word
Thanks so much GODBLESS
Amennnn
Let the spirit lead but Dr Ebel is speaking the mind of God.
Speaking the mind of God on what ground
Please chart me privately.
We need people like this brother in helping us correct the erring pastors. They are many and very eloquent, motivational and speak convincingly hence their members thought they were right.
Really really sad
All of the ministers except 1 I heard dealt with this,got it right. Fornication is not adultery. Jesus said for fornication and he meant it. Culturally I can understand how the fornication came about. But everyone wants to push his own belief system.
@Ministrymusic2011 what is fornication? The actual Greek word used was porneia which can directly be translated as prostitution
God bless you sir for the clear explanation. A word is enough for the wise.
Amen and amen.
You have spoken well Sir.
However no one must die miserable and unhappy, in a toxic marriage.
Marriage is to be enjoyed and not endured Sir.
That's right marriage is to be enjoyed. But what we are saying is if one chooses to leave marriage because of domestic violence or abuse, there is no scripture supporting them to Remarry.
One of the biggest problems in the body of Christ is that some so-called Christians take and make some "preachers" super stars and thus take their words as authority even above the words of Christ. Dr Abel just blasphemed here and you can see some " pastors" nodding their head to error because they too don't know any better. What a shame!Some Christians are looking for an avenue to live as sinners with and under false teachings. God help you.
Then, it is expedient that we choose wisely and especially with God's guidance. Because, scripturally, it's a no going back venture IF WE WANT TO BE SCRIPTURALLY RIGHT AND SEE THE GOD OF THE BIBLE AT THE END OF OUR SOJOURN HERE
The toxicity is from our lusts and expectations, don't pick up any woman or man and marry, lower your expectations From your partner but push yourself to protect, nurture and establish the Union in Grace and holiness...
Sound teaching sir. Thank you ❤
God bless
We need to be serious about this issue because many are dying in their marriage only because they told them divorce is rebellion or most of they are facing heart attack, aneurysm and wounds. In case i have a sister who divorce, will i be happy to see her staying without remarrying for the rest of her life ? In many christians marriages, most of the couples pretend and hypocrisis occurs because even if it is not working they stay because they were told not to divorce. I think we always believe that marriage is from God but it is from men.
God is teaching us relationship to keep our marriage. Jesus did not come to marry as to give money. Human marriage is emotional. But by knowing Jesus, we will know how to stay in marriage.
Now the divorce in the bible, is it not figurative ? Because marriage in the bible is Jesus and his church :relationship.
Anyway let us consider also your thoughts
When Jesus spoke about marriage and divorce in the Bible, was he speaking in parables? Bring the verse let's see it in context
Why don't you read what our Lord Jesus taught about marriage.
Jesus was not addressing domestic violence in marriage but adultary
@@rotimikayode1072I think this person is a divorcee and remarry that's why he's defending the wrong doctrine
What you think doesn't matter bratan, it is only the scriptures that matter.
Thanks bro,, God bless you for your courage 🙏
Amen and thanks
You are very right brother. The problem is soft landing. Instead to stick to Jesus Christ and his truth we try to use traditions of men to qualify HOLY GOD instructions. Unforgiveness is another reason why people look for these human knowledge to devoice.
God will help us
At times is not about forgiveness but disagreement on unity of mind
Yes Jesus didn't measure domestic violence, did he mentioned smoking. My guy Jesus didn't have to mention it. Two cannot cannot and can't expect they agree.
God bless you bro for correcting these misquoted scriptures from the Ps Abel.
Amen And amen
This one i agree with you, My Dr, misquoted that one. But we must all remember to check the scriptures for ourselves to void being found wanting.
There is nothing I appreciate like sincerity. Accepting wrong when it is seen. It makes one able to trust your words and judgement in the future, and accept that you are not just out to win a debate. Thanks for being sincere. Others will only keep calling you names even when truth is starting them in the face.
Yeah Bro. Checking for myself, I found d exception to d rule of divorce. N av asked d corrector. Divorce should not b contemplated according to Mat. 5. But a proviso opens d window for whoever fulfills d condition. A believer could sue for divorce on proven n valid instances of sexual sins by her or his partner. There is no any other ground for divorce except sex outside marriage, or adultery. So if a brother or sister went d length of legal battles to secure it, r they now exempted from d punishment of staying single for life ? Otherwise of what value or advantage is d exemption. Law doesn't permit double jeopardy for d seeker of justice. U separated from ur adulterous wife n u nao remain single for life, where is justice here ? N God is a righteous Judge, no b so ? 😀
He has never been correct in any!!!!
Who wrote the bible where you dear when the bible was written
Christianity is the looth of African problem expelshaly Nigeria
Thanks bro. You have spoken well and what you said is the truth
Amen and thanks
My brother, thank you for being brave to correct Abel Damina with his demonic doctrines.
God will help us
Mariage is not tying any man or woman perpetually. Mariage shouldn't be existing in the midst of domestic violence.
@hilaryigwe9100 No one says you can't leave a marriage with Domestic Violence. What we are saying is that there is no scriptural provision for yiy to Remarry if you leave such a marriage
This man has no power or knowledge to correct Dr Abel
@romanokaberia9539 this man has no power or knowledge to correct Damina. That's a statement from someone who seems to follow blindly. Study the word for yourself brother
More grace my brother. You said the truth
Amen and thanks
Dr Abel has opened the eyes of many Christians so leave those corrections to the babies, who are you sir to correct Dr Abel?
Very Funny.
Abel is profound false teachers, arguing with express teachings of Christ.
Thank you my brother, we no longer have churches, we have social centres. The new age pastors have twisted the scriptures to suit their greed and lust.
Where does the bible call marriage cultural? He said they did not teach marriage well in Christianity. If the teaching we have from the bible is not well scripted, where did he get his own from? He said a man’s blood is still hot, does he know that this statement of a man not being able to control themselves is African mentality. The woman they caught in adultery was hot also. So men and women should learn to control themselves against sin, than trying to say a man can change women because they lack self control.
Christians, follow the word of God and not word of these pastors. If they preach, be like the berean Christians and go and cross check in the bible. If it is contrary, throw what they say away. We have pastor wolves in the body of Christ today. If we become misled, you have yourself to blame before God, because you are to follow Jesus, the author and finisher of your faith. God will not strike Pastor Daminq, as God is also waiting for him to change as he is waiting for unbelievers to give their lives to him. Follow God’s word. The bible said we should test all spirit to check if they are of God. This spirit speaking through Pstor Daminq is not of God.
God save us all.
It is well with the church
Nothing to test here, your problem is old church doctrinal bondage on marriage that is disturbing you. So Dr damin is correct with biblical facts
@emmanuelejikemeuwaaniche9083 where are the biblical facts?
Thank you rra for that explanation! I agree with you and people should always refer to the bible because everything is explained clearly in the bible for all the christians to read and understand stop taking thing from the mouth of your pastors. This issue of divorce is clearly explained in Matthew 5:31
Very clearly explained
Be careful dear brother, doctrines were made for man and not the other way round.
You are arguing with the man of God at the expense of the sheep.
Your message upholds the church doctrine but it has not consolation for the broken hearted.
Its easy for you to obey because you have a good marriage.
Many are going through pains. What they need to hear is not stand of the church... Or in your words...The Bible is not in support of divorce.
I know of a Pastor who domestically abused hisnwife for years, she had to return back home to her parents. the pastor angrily remarried another woman. So according to you, she should wait for him to die even when her family has annulled the bond.
We thank God for people like you that will uphold Bible doctrines. But that is not a message. The message is the salvation of man and following Christ as His sheep.
Get your own message not countering those that are speaking.
Your words are not to men of God but to encourage the Sheep.
You are so blinded by arguing with Abel Damina, you failed to realise men/women in millions living in broken homes watching your message looking for encouragement.
It seems your call is majorly church doctrine. What we need is indepth teaching about how to find peace and endure in a troubled home.
You are right about the stand of God on marriage but remember that even marriage will pass away with the traditions of this world.
The samaritan woman that had many husbands would have been confused in our day with our many rules.
What of men that are married to many wives and get saved. Do they send the woman away because Gods design was one man and one woman?
You only present an ideal situation not always the real.
Few go into marriage with a mindset of divorce. Immaturity and lack of discipleship have placed many into relationships that are toxic, even fatal. The mind of Christ is Healing.. ..for the soul and for the marriage, not because it s a rule No Divorce..but because of the complete salvation of everyone... This benefit is even for people who have married wrongly in the past.
I am not for divorce, but that not our message.
Even the person that asked the question in the Video asks just to trap the man of God. Jesus was so full of wisdom when men asked him such kind questions,Jesus always drew their minds back to what was most important. He addressed matters from the roots.
So please when you criticise such teachings, have alongside a balanced teaching on such topics to guide your congregation which are of mixed multitude and provide encouragement to the wounded.
The devil takes our statement and tells the weak that the Church is not a place for them. Whereas the world embraces them with destructive hands. They do not understand so they are weak.
God will help you brother.
@MamaAsks well, Maybe you could check out my responses to others in the comment session who are sincerely asking questions when they are lost. My main point on this video is to reprove people who quote the scripture or twist their scripture to support their position. When the church, I think In Corinthians ask Paul certain questions, He first admitted that he didn't receive any instructions from the Lord on that subject. But went on to advice them based on his own judgement under the spirit of God. The man in this video went ahead to misquote a Bible to support his claim. This is the very heart of what I am addressing.
@@MamaAsksI am sorry but i personally can't tolerate Foolishness. These are the last days and the Bible says men will grow itchy ears and they can't stand the truth as you are doing right now.
How do you come over here to see the creator of this video clearly saying what scriptures are saying and you are there saying he is talking from church doctrine?
Are you saying you don't want to listen to what the scripture is saying or what? Are you saying the scriptural template for this issue is not potent enough to tackle the marital chaos of these present times? Or you think we should go extra Biblical to invent methods to tackling marital issues?
I don't think your case is foolishness but an hardened heart which makes you to refute the truth.
And your words about this host here is in a way deceptive and showing an untrue claim to what he is actually saying here. Even your advice is unnecessary as it's a deviant from the subject matter.
I hope you are mentally ok?
Cuz if not for the fulfillment of the above mentioned end time prophecy unequivocally scripted by the scriptures, i wonder why someone with their right frame of mind would come here to see a person clearly interpreting the scriptures about marriage and still want to argue or twist the perspectives.
Its actually a devilish act.
1Cor 7:15 But if the unbelieving depart, let him depart. A brother or a sister is not under bondage in such cases: but God hath called us to peace. Notice that, the brother is not bound by the law hence is free to marry
This particular point is a little complex which could mean exactly what you just pointed here or might not mean that exactly even though your point here seems to be the logical meaning of that text
@@augustinejoshua7229 He did not misinterpret the scripture. In my analysis, he has explained well
@thetruegospelministries he did not misinterpret the scriptures in your opinion and I respect your opinion. But I have a different opinion. So what do we do now? Well, I believe the whole point is for all to come to a knowledge of the truth. Hence, I have pointed out where I believe he was wrong in this video. So maybe you point them out one after the other and let's discuss them. God bless
@@augustinejoshua7229 I will put it out on my video channel and tag you. Shalom
So even you are divorced when you are 18 years you can live forever without getting married
This video is not directly addressing that though
Then what is the video addressing?
You didn't listened to the video sir? Sorry to ask that
I did sir, the comment he made came from the expression in the video
But from the video, I never talked about if you divorced and are 18 years and you need to live forever without getting married. Did I mention that?
🎉the Bible said only death brings permanent separation. But when the spouse is alive she is still bond to that marriage, even though you are divorcing her. 1 Corinthians 7:39-40. And Jesus also said He hate divorce.
That's the word of God
What this man is saying is when one partner is dead..then the other is free to re marry.....but he has not answered the question at all......whose desciple is this man......he is misquoting the scriptures
That was the point I was trying to isolate and identify
Read the bible verses and you will understand better
Don't follow any misleading doctrine or leader pls test all spirits . Don't be a sensual. Christian but a spiritual one.
The host just delivered the truth, he will go far. But Woe unto demonic doctrines that wants to make sure the children of GOD goes to hell ignorantly by committing adultery
Amenn
I love you sir. More grace sir
Amen and thanks
Thank you brother that is true
Blessings
With great humility, someone should remind Dr. Damina that marriage is not cultural but spiritual... culture has never is never and will never be exalted above the spiritual.. it's spirit before it comes to be physical. That's why we are discouraged from sexual impurity for it's sin against our own body..
Marriage is an institution ordained by God not by culture
Why do we like taking sides in everything? Wisdom is good but we are to get understanding in all our getting. I understand the perspective he's speaking from. If you say marriage is spiritual and not cultural, so can we exempt cultural practices while getting married as he illustrated? Let us stand for truth if truly the spirit of truth is in us.
Well done and thanks for your impute. Now maybe you address the core matter raised in the video as well in light of the scriptures.
What is cultural in Christ teachings
Marriage is cultural. Okay, say sth about marriages that took place before Christianity was brought to you from western world when you've never known anything about Christ
I agree with you man of God 🙏🙏
Thank you
This massage is for those who wants to make heaven.
God will help us
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Thanks for explaining the word marriage
Thank you
It was Paul opinion and none of us were called to follow Paul rather we were call to follow Christ.
Most Christian always thought that Paul is Christ. Paul was human and he also had human judgement in some of his thoughts and actions.
What makes two people to divorce is because they had issues that they can't forgive each other. So, lack of forgive and selfish paved way for divorce.
Paul was in total agreement with Jesus in this topic, but Dr Abel totally misinterpreted Paul here,
Dr Damina's reference to the verse was Eren wrong. I was surprised they don't even want to look at the fact that he Misquoted the words which I clearly showed. Only one disciple of Damina actually acknowledged that yes he Misquoted the verse. That's the sincerity I even hoped to at least even see from some people before they even start airing their opinion.
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I use to respect him, but with this I don't trust him.
If the existence of love of husband is what we should use to determine couple being together, that means if we all don't love every partner we marry we can always change them anytime.
That is what you have unconsciousely learnt from Pentecostal movement. Its heresy
The message of salvation came to the gentiles through Paul.
And we are to build on the apostle teachings.
Imagine a world where christians' families including pastors' are having children from different parent in family.
The same man taught that marriage is like salvation and said salvation is eternal and now he is saying marriage is an agreement. Salvation must be agreement thing too.
It is time for people start studying the scripture for themselves.
So unforgiveness is permitted in your own doctrine. But Jesus said if you have a disagreement with anyone, go and settle it first before offering your gift or prayers to God or else your prayers will not be answered
That is the truth brother, thank you for sharing what I also believe is the truth. Bless you.
Hmmmm
God hate divorce
That's right
Wonderful brother you are doing very good job don't give up
Amenn thanks
We know your type that uses Dr Damina to trend, but just so you know, this is how many people come to know the truth.
Take it easy sister. This is not about trending. It's about the truth. Analyse the truth presented and if you don't agree with it, tell me why so we can reason. That's how to edify one another beloved
There is a need to qualify and categorize the word believer. Who is an unbeliever versus a believer.
Alright,
More grace in Jesus name
Amen thanks
Thank you for correcting the pastor,
You welcome
People should read the Bible and ask the Holy Spirit to teach them. People under this man's ministration should be careful.
Saint Paul immersed himself in the work of God that he remained single, never slept around. Why would a man of God not have self control? Who told Damina that carnal married Pastors can't sleep around?
Hmmmmm
What has Dr Damina to say about Jesus' teaching on marriage in Mathew 19. Where does he get his insights ( which contradict the whole counsel of God) from.
A good question to ask
Bro i jusr want to thank u .we need people like u.abel brings heresies but i am happy with ur explanation it is very clear and i know heaven is happy with u thank u
Amen and amen. I really appreciate
I agree with Abel Damina 💯.
Dont just agree. Give scriptural reasons
@augustinejoshua7229 you did not play the click to a point where we will hear scripture from Abel so it is difficult to make conclusion.
@harentoncashierchea8676 you probably didn't watch the video then. Watch again and be attentive. You will hear it
The issue of marriage is the joining of two families, Paul is saying do not divorce but when you are being divorced you are free. We are called for peace ✌️
That's not what Paul said sir. I think you should revisit the verse again
I guess we see what we want to see, clearly no point debating what we both can read. As for me, I won't stay single if one divorces me. Christian or not, I love my sex and Paul clearly commands that we should not deprive one another.
@evafricatech but the bible never said if one divorces you, you can Remarry. Let's be sincere brother. If there is such a verse, maybe I don't know. You could paste that verse let me see it
I think people just want to have their cake and eat it.
If you want to be a Christian, remain one and obey the scriptures-palatable or not.
Otherwise, denounce Christianity and leave your life to the fullest (bearing in mind the consequences or at least be prepared for it).
That's why you have to choose wisely and like the scriptures and many good men of God advise- let God guide your choice.
As far as the scriptures is concerned, once you're married, you are married till death do both of you part. So, it's not a must to be a Christian abeg
@ajokpaoghenegenesis6135 rightly said
Marriage is cultural not spiritual and it end here on earth.
Bible prove
Thank you so very much
God bless
I am not against remarrying but how do we reconcile this message with the words of our Lord Jesus Christ in Matt 19:9; Mark 10:11-12. which was referenced to by Apostle Paul in 1Cor 7:10-11?
Good question
True even Jesus said at first it wasn't like that, now because of people like this pastor sugar coating to suit himself
For domestic violence parties do not need to divorce. There is judicial separation which will diffuse the tension. The parties will be apart for some time but are not divorced.
Great
The end gain of all believers is to make heaven and enjoy eternity with God, so those who have divorced and remarried will they make heaven?
This is the primary question
mercy , feeding the flock of Jesus with these psstor
Hmmmm
Abel Damina surely needs prayers and deliverance
The Lord will show us mercy
Oga you are talking theory
I would love to talk with one on one
I have some questions to ask you if you can reply me
To correct a point, I am not talking theory, I am talking what the bible says. If you have any questions, feel free to ask
God bless you my brother. Please add Romans 7:2-3, Matt 18:21-22 and Malachi 2:14 to show that believers are to forgive and not divorce their spouses. No room for divorce and remarry hence your spouse is alive. You can only divorce and stay unmarried.
That's right. Room for forgiveness
How many believes have divorced and remarry? There are many
Does that cancel the authority of Scriptures?
Thank you so much for this. What if a part leaves and later get to be a believer?
Can you explain more let me understand
You then restitute
1 Corinthians 7:40
40 But she is happier if she abide as she is, after my judgment: and I think that I also have the Spirit of God. What is your understanding of this verse? Was the instruction from God or Paul?
He said "after my judgement" even though I also think my judgement stems from the spirit in me. That settles the case
God Bless you my Brother 🙏
Amen
Your reasoning is more valid than what Abel is teaching.
It is well
Oga teacher, all these you've said now, how many churches follow this. They now pray for single mum to remarry in same church. Not everything in the bible are original. Read scroll if you can lay your hands on it. If you want to live all your life with bible writing, you'll be confuded because same bibe said to apply wisdom. Domestic violence in marriage managing killed Osinachi. Same bible said time will come women would queue to marry just one man. Is it not happening gradually? Where should we keep those prophecy
You are mixing up different parts of the Bible beloved. And then, we didn't say one must remain in a home with domestic Violence. We are saying there is no biblical provision for remarriage if such a one leaves.
I love this question 😅sir..
The bible will always sound confusing because of lack of proper explanation. Even Jesus our Lord explained the bible, so it's now our generation that knows very well, so let's read the Bible like an English book😊
Brother, you have actually said it all. But my question is this ooooòooòo, why are some pastor's who are surpose to be correcting us on this very serious issue, are the very once having 2 wives. Sorry oooooooooo, because I really really want to know ooooooòooò.i have always been telling people to read the BIBLE for themselves in case such a message comes up like this. God bless you richly sir. Thank 😊
The biggest problem we will continue to face is when people handle the word of God to suit their individual notions
May God have mercy on Dr Abel Damian for destroying the bible doctrines
Amen
bible needs to be taught…. lay man understanding of scripture is senseless. How do you continue to live with a spouse who goes to consult wizards and who is violent with potential to kill you? Why pple say christians are silly
Do not allow religion to make you lose your ability to think
How
@@augustinejoshua7229 how? If you really Want to understand God, go and read the original and the first bible not the ones that has been converted and are contradicting each other. The God I serve is not a contradicting God. If God allow men to marry more than one wife in the old testament, what is the teaching by the church that God does not allow that? Where in the bible in the new testament did Yeshua our Lord says men should not. Are you telling me now that God is contradicting himself? Today church is doing pick and chose. They pick tithing from old testament and forget about other rules in the old testament. Who are we deceiving? No man can deceive God. Religion has caused more harm too much harm to this world because they have deviated from the true gospel. Love God with all your heart and love your neighbours as yourself. Churches don't teach that anymore, churches are now business that any body can just rise up and said God called. How can you have 2 to 3 churches in one building or opposite each other. Even the main divisions is in Christianity. They are just pretending to be united but they are far from unity. Why was some books removed from the bible? Check the history and understand how the books in the bible was put together. There are a lot of contradiction in the bible today. The Bible we are reading today does not represent God the creator of heaven and earth very well. There are many questions I can ask you now that you can not be able to answer.
@michaelwilliams, rather, do not allow your fleshly inclination blindfold you. It's not a must you identify with Christianity. You can denounce Christianity and join yourself with faiths and bodies that agree with your sentiment. The scripture(Bible) is too clear on this matter to be misinterpreted just for one's selfishness
Where did bible says that a man must marry one wife?
For real brother?
@@augustinejoshua7229please tell me for real
1 Timothy 3:12
@@BababenakoffiBakoya-yacehe was referring to the deacons
Thanks my brother you are so right. The Bible said it clearly
Clearly
What about 1Corinthians 7v15, but if the unbelieving depart,such brother or sister is not under bondage
First thing to establish is the meaning of the word "the brother or sister is not under bondage."
Are you saying that if my wife attempts to kill me and I narrowly escape, I should still stay in the marriage?
I can't find where I said that in the video though
Hello sir, oga pastor corrector, what now happens to a brother or pastor who fulfills biblical condition of divorce to his wife on valid grounds of adultery as accepted by Jesus ? Would he now b free to remarry having met d laid down rules by Moses or Jesus christ ? Or would he be condemned to staying single for d rest of his life carrying d burden n suffering of d sins of his wife ? Assuming d brother or pastor is a young man of 36 years ? Same thing goes for d wife if she validly divorced her husband on charges of adultery ? Being so young woman at 34 should she now stay single for d rest of her life paying for d sins of her divorced ex husband ? Abeg kindly respond to my posers.
To start with, I think the "Oga pastor Corrector" is not necessary." But that not withstanding, I will answer this question based on my current level of understanding of the word's of the Bible. It first says . Jesus replied, “Moses permitted you to divorce your wives because your hearts were hard. But it was not this way from the beginning. I tell you that anyone who divorces his wife, except for sexual immorality, and marries another woman commits adultery.” The disciples said to him, “If this is the situation between a husband and wife, it is better not to marry.”
Matthew 9:8-10 If You ask me, I will say, the word Except means something is exempted. We have two things here.
1. Divorce his wife
2. Married another.
In this translation, which is NIV, the "except" came between the divorce and marrying another. If you ask me based on English, I might say the except is only restricted to the divorce and not having the marrying another included. Which is to mean, you should only divorce your wife on condition of adultery and even with that, you are not permitted to marry another since the except was only restricted to the divorce. And Jesus from the beginning was addressing the issue of divorce and not remarriage. If I will apply this rule to the words of Jesus, I will say Jesus permitted divorce on grounds of adultery but no remarriage. If you apply the except to both Divorce and Remarriage, I will then say on the grounds of adultery, you can divorce and Remarry. So it depends on if the except is for both the divorce and the remarriage. But since I am unable to currently establish if the except has the divorce and Remarriage combined, I will need to check other parts of the Bible for maybe further instructions. And that took us to the words of apostle Paul, who later said if you divorce your spouse, you have to remain single and if you can't remain single, then forgive your spouse and be reconcile d. He clearly noted that the only condition for remarriage is if your spouse dies. He also added another statement which is still disputed. That is, if you are married to an unbeliever and the unbeliever leaves, you are no longer bound. That no longer bound, does it mean no longer bound to he covenant of marriage and hence you can Remarry or no longer bound to what? If you want, we could now head to the words of Paul to explore further. Thanks
@@augustinejoshua7229 thank u sir. I asked in order to b sure of ur position cos am often bombarded with d same poser. N av always made my position known vis d cross is bigger than any offence committed against ourselves on earth. If d cross upon which d savior was laid tortured n nailed can't accommodate adultery offences a self confessed believer will find after life tough to exit to eternal life. For me sir, there is no offence bigger than d cross, adultery inclusive after all marriage ends here on earth. But for scholarship n clarity I proded u. Thanks for taking ur time to respond to me. D Lord Jesus Christ bless u richly.
Thank you brother l wish he hear this. Most of this man's teachings I don't think he pray before he teaches
Hmmm
Smile, am with you bro. Lets keep praying for Dr. Abel Damina
The Lord will help His church
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Please! Dying is not physically giving up ghost only!
Irresponsibility, abusiveness, denial of sex to a partner is a characteristic of a dead partner!
Damina is right!
Easy
This is good. Speaking truth. These are the remnants
Amenn
You have sincerely put it as it is.Dr Abel said some Christians are introducing sentiments into it. But he is the one that introduced sentiments into it by alluding to the perceived difficulty in the christian who separated from his spouse to remain single or reconcile with the spouse.
Even Jesus Christ, our Lord, Himself admitted that his teaching was difficult, hence he said all men would not accept this teaching. So,
that is what it is.Take it or leave it.
I love this comment. It's easy to accuse others of introducing sentiments when in reality, you are the one introducing sentiments. Accusing others is easy.
You are a great man in your submission.
Thank you sir
Did he not say that marriage is cultural?
I believe that marriage is cultural!
Our culture is different from the cultures of the others!
If marriage is not working! Instead of abuse or domestic violence, you better divorce to save life.
We don't even do 10% of what the bible requires from us as Christians but we are trying our best.
Why are we doing cherry picking when it comes marriage?
What about 👖 debate lol
What is the difference between wedding and marriage?
@@augustinejoshua7229 tell me the difference in your culture/ language. Stop using English language to confuse yourself!!
You did not answer any of my questions. Why?
@onelove4all the question is meant to show you a reality. If you know the difference between wedding and marriage, you woun't say what you did
@@augustinejoshua7229 stop beating around the Bush! Answer my question or you stop replying to me. Your question makes no sense! Truth is bitter! Go and answer the question, if not don't reply to me please. All the best
@onelove4all marriage is cultural how? Show one verse of the Bible that says marriage is cultural. You can say wedding is cultural but never marriage. Marriage is God's ordinance not any culture. That's the simple fact. Your first point is what I am addressing. You asked many questions. I am addressing them one after the other
Well but the same bible said if ( according to my own understanding in case of domestic violence or abuse) the woman or man divorces his or her wife she must remain unmaried.
And if they cannot remain single, they should reconcile
With the level of domestic violence in Christian homes today which has even led to death of many, if only on the ground of adultery that divorce must happened, what about separation of the two to avoid more further damage or more domestic violence, is the bible not in support of it?
While there is no bible verse that speaks against separation due to domestic Violence, at the same time there is no bible verse that support remarriage after separation. But we know the bible says if one separates, they must remain unmarried so long the other partner is still alive. If they can't stay single, they should be reconciled
Actually, it's ok to separate to save life,but you can't just remarry,till that partner die or you settle with authority or pastor then you go back.
In the same Charpter PAUL said "At thou loosed from a wife seek not a wife but if thou marry thou have not sinned" and I believe this is for the unbelieving men who are already divorced before coming to know the LORD and not for those who are in the LORD. Bless you bro.
Some translation will say are you bound to a wife, seek not to be free. Are you free from a wife? Seek not a wife. But if you do marry, you have not sinned. It could mean what you said or could be referring to single unmarried men
@@augustinejoshua7229nobody seems to understand what Paul is saying. Sometimes Paul gives his own opinion
@@michaelwilliams8925 apostle Paul was saying if you are separated from your wife,don't seek another woman but reconcile with your wife . apostle Paul was dealing with the problem he met in the church,he never encouraged Christians to marry another woman but to reconcile with their previous wives.
In the church of Corinthians apostle Paul address issues like divorce, marriage, leadership, accountability.
But he address the church of the Jews About the new covenant because the Jews never accepted Jesus.
The scriptures in total is the word of God. It cannot be separated into a Jesus or Paul said. 1cor. 7 tells of conditions for divorce, after much efforts at reconciliation.
Go deeper
Read Kenneth E Hagins book on marriage, divorce and re marriage.
Key point highlights pls
God bless you brother
Amennn
In the bible, the Bible mentioned everything that is a sin. Show me in the Bible where the Bible says marrying two or more wife is a sin. Is it not the same bible that says in the old testament that if you marry two wives that you must love them equally? I need answers.
Show the verse
Oga i really want to talk with you, the more I hear you talk the more questions I receive to ask you
Do feel free to ask the questions. Thanks
You are right sir, that why it’s good to read your bible, I don’t know where Abel sees what he is teaching, that is not what bible said. Thanks sir
God bless
The man cited the scripture wrongly
That's right
There is no scripture allowing remarriage if one partner is alive.
That's just it
IF THE BIBLE SAYS LET NO MAN PUT AS UNDER, WHO ELSE IN THIS RESPECT CAN SEPARATE(DIVORCE)THEM?
Deep
Why not approach Dr. Abel Dina and seek clarification before assuming here.
Assuming? Is that assumption when the evidence is right in front of you?
Assuming,how so? When it comes to the word of God there's no assumption,but doing and living according to the word of God, go and read your Bible, we not sugar coating when it comes to the word of God. Know the truth and it shall set you free.
If a woman is abused, must she stays till she's murdered, when we know d devil is a murderer. Haven't u heard, Jesus says man was not made for d law. Life is more important than law on marriage. Abuse is even as worse as adultery. Both causes emotional and psychological trauma
We never said a woman who is abused must remain in the marriage. We only said there is no scriptural provision justifying her to Remarry if she leaves.
Every country has laws governing marriage. Many Christians marry in the court as well as the church. As long as you carry the certificate of marriage issued by the legal system, you have to abide by the rules of the legal system.
Wisdom is the principal thing, with all thy getting get understanding.
So if the Bible tells u something and your country says otherwise, which one will u follow
@@augustinejoshua7229 "wisdom is the principal thing" No argument.
@@olukimkan3837It must be wisdom from above not earthly wisdom
God bless u dear brother for taking ur time to explain it the right way. I hope people will listen to u. Every thing u just said is the pure undiluted word of God as it is.. May God save his people from all these wolf in sheep clothing.
@rosemaryVal Amen and amenn
Jesus states that divorcing a mate on the grounds of immorality frees the offended mate to remarry without committing adultery. Paul upholds the idea of permanency in marriage, whether it be to a believer or unbeliever, yet gives permission for a believing mate to separate if deserted by an unbeliever.
However, times have changed with the different kinds of damaged humans we have in this generation. Thus, apart from infidelity, if remaining in a relationship will cut short your life; RUN and live. These days, people get strokes, etc from troublesome spouses
Jesus didn't directly said that divorcing a spouse on the ground of adultery frees the other partner from remarrying. It's only and inference from what he said not a direct statement
Brother please let's consider these verses: Romans 7:2-3;
1 Corinthians 7:39
-any Man or Woman who leaves his or her spouse as a Christian should remain unmarried as long as the spouse is still alive -that is the LAW that binds them not marriage rites
-this doctrine is applicable to christians not the unbeliever
Of you could explain further so I will understand your point exactly. Thanks