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how big of bolt cutters would it take to cut the rivits on a foldylock compact i seen a video of them cutting the abus bordo 6000 rivits with a 30in bolt cutters
Good question! In our review of the compact (which you can find in our latest videos) we couldn't crop the rivet with 24" bolt cutters. Any larger than this, and the cutters would be tough to conceal on the street. I think 42" bolt cutters would probably be big enough, but as mentioned above, these are too heavy to carry around, let alone conceal.
You should make a video on LiteLok D-Lock, model X1 and model X3, to see if you can cut them with bolt cutter and angle grinders (battery operated and power cord operated) . Both of these locks will chew up those angle disks easily. The ABUS foldable lock model 6500 or 6500K is much better & more secured lock than the 6000 model.
I will be testing these! Both of these will be uncuttable with bolt cutters, I'm not sure if iill even bother trying. I broke a pair of high-quality 42" bolt cutters yesterday attempting to cut an 8mm chain link. And yes the 6500 or 6500k are more secure than this. I'll be doing a comparison of the the Foldylock Forever and the 6500k shortly.
For me I’d take the mini, it’s lightweight and slightly more compact. It does offer a slightly reduced shackle space so you’ll be slightly more restricted with what you can secure your bike to, but I didn’t find this much of an issue and was able to secure to most immovable objects with the Mini and my bike.
Why a comparison between a silver rated and a bronze rated lock? Is the outcome of this comparison not already known in advance because of this difference in rating?
The Bordo 6000 was originally a Silver-rated lock but was downgraded a few years ago. It remains a popular folding lock that many cyclists use, and is easily avalible, whereas the two other two Silver-rated folding locks are harder to source. This comparison was made so that cyclists understand the features these locks offer, allowing them to make informed decisions when deciding upon the security of their bicycles.
@@bikelockwiki Aha, both locks *used* to be comparable. Thx. 🤔 Sorry. Another question arises. How does that rating come about? Are the requirements adjusted as the attack techniques on locks grow more violant or advanced?
@@paulwassenaar8351 I'm not 100% sure what caused the rating of the Bordo 6000 to be lowered, I've asked the question myself, but haven't received an answer as to what caused the change. Sold Secure work with British Police and Secure by Design to ensure their testing methods stay up to date with what thieves are doing on the streets. This suggests that changes will be made to their testing process from time to time. Hope this helps!
@@bikelockwiki It does. Thx very much. My cheap, old, second/third hand bikes aren't worth stealing by a pro. Old like previous century. 😊 Amateurs and drunks are easily detured by an old Abus disque and heavy chain. Don't know what rating but it looks hefty 😂 Greetings from The Hague, the Netherlands
3.5 seconds? Where’d you find that? Seems too quick to me. If you’re worried about an angle grinder, avoid folding locks and go for a grinder resistant lock such as the LITELOK X3 or the Hiplok D1000.
The hammer test isn't designed to replicate how thieves steal on the street, but to compare the quality and durability of the steel either lock uses :)
This is completely subjective. Some cyclists like to take lightweight, highly portable locks on rides where they'll only need to use a lock to stop opportunists from running off with it. For example, if you're sat in a cafe or pub garden at the end of a long ride you might take a lightweight lock with you to lock your bike to a bench/chair. All dependant upon the individual and the locking scenario.
I hate to say "you're wrong", but you are ;-) It depends entirely on the scenario. A friend of mine lost a bike when he popped into a convenience store to grab a six-pack because he didn't have a big, heavy lock with him. A 2lb Foldylock Mini would have saved his bike. So yes, sometimes all we need is a light-duty, easy to carry lock.
I recently found out just how much more enjoyable my ride is with with a lock that doesn't rattle (the foldylock mini), i cannot state enough that security is not the most important. I would go so far as to say they it is worth it getting a cheaper bike with a lower security rating lock that doesn't 't rattle instead of using a higher security lock on a expensive bike that does rattle. Kryptonite, Onguard, Trelock and Abus have a lot to learn. And no, putting a heavy lock in your backpack is not a solution to the rattling.
Feel free to share any feedback you have on my review procedure (I'll use it to improve future content). Thanks for watching!
Here are links to both products featured in the review if you'd like to learn more [Amazon Affiliate Links]:
- Foldylock Mini - amzn.to/3XKLjS8
- ABUS Bordo 6000 - geni.us/86Ty
how big of bolt cutters would it take to cut the rivits on a foldylock compact i seen a video of them cutting the abus bordo 6000 rivits with a 30in bolt cutters
Good question!
In our review of the compact (which you can find in our latest videos) we couldn't crop the rivet with 24" bolt cutters. Any larger than this, and the cutters would be tough to conceal on the street.
I think 42" bolt cutters would probably be big enough, but as mentioned above, these are too heavy to carry around, let alone conceal.
thanks!
Thanks for watching!
You should make a video on LiteLok D-Lock, model X1 and model X3, to see if you can cut them with bolt cutter and angle grinders (battery operated and power cord operated) . Both of these locks will chew up those angle disks easily.
The ABUS foldable lock model 6500 or 6500K is much better & more secured lock than the 6000 model.
I will be testing these! Both of these will be uncuttable with bolt cutters, I'm not sure if iill even bother trying. I broke a pair of high-quality 42" bolt cutters yesterday attempting to cut an 8mm chain link.
And yes the 6500 or 6500k are more secure than this. I'll be doing a comparison of the the Foldylock Forever and the 6500k shortly.
Mini or compact for one bike? in what cases it is better to use mini and in what cases compact?
For me I’d take the mini, it’s lightweight and slightly more compact.
It does offer a slightly reduced shackle space so you’ll be slightly more restricted with what you can secure your bike to, but I didn’t find this much of an issue and was able to secure to most immovable objects with the Mini and my bike.
Great testing video 😊
Why a comparison between a silver rated and a bronze rated lock? Is the outcome of this comparison not already known in advance because of this difference in rating?
The Bordo 6000 was originally a Silver-rated lock but was downgraded a few years ago.
It remains a popular folding lock that many cyclists use, and is easily avalible, whereas the two other two Silver-rated folding locks are harder to source.
This comparison was made so that cyclists understand the features these locks offer, allowing them to make informed decisions when deciding upon the security of their bicycles.
@@bikelockwiki
Aha, both locks *used* to be comparable. Thx.
🤔 Sorry. Another question arises. How does that rating come about? Are the requirements adjusted as the attack techniques on locks grow more violant or advanced?
@@paulwassenaar8351 I'm not 100% sure what caused the rating of the Bordo 6000 to be lowered, I've asked the question myself, but haven't received an answer as to what caused the change.
Sold Secure work with British Police and Secure by Design to ensure their testing methods stay up to date with what thieves are doing on the streets. This suggests that changes will be made to their testing process from time to time.
Hope this helps!
@@bikelockwiki
It does. Thx very much.
My cheap, old, second/third hand bikes aren't worth stealing by a pro. Old like previous century. 😊 Amateurs and drunks are easily detured by an old Abus disque and heavy chain. Don't know what rating but it looks hefty 😂
Greetings from The Hague, the Netherlands
3.5 seconds to cut with a cordless grinder. Only option is an alarmed lock, but these don't charge and are not rated for outdoor use.
3.5 seconds? Where’d you find that? Seems too quick to me.
If you’re worried about an angle grinder, avoid folding locks and go for a grinder resistant lock such as the LITELOK X3 or the Hiplok D1000.
I hope the bike thieves in my area aren't coming around with Thor hammers and anvils.
The hammer test isn't designed to replicate how thieves steal on the street, but to compare the quality and durability of the steel either lock uses :)
@@bikelockwiki awesomesauce
Foldylock forever test?
It’s on my to-do list!
This is a commercial Period
Abus bordo is an expensive crap
U locks are much better and cheaper than this
As the Bordo 6000 is a bronze rated lock I'd agree and say that it's expensive for the security it provides.
And heavier, and harder to carry. Define "better"?
@@TheGhostfaceKLR And it rattles!
But not usable around lamp posts
Security is important, not portability
This is completely subjective. Some cyclists like to take lightweight, highly portable locks on rides where they'll only need to use a lock to stop opportunists from running off with it.
For example, if you're sat in a cafe or pub garden at the end of a long ride you might take a lightweight lock with you to lock your bike to a bench/chair.
All dependant upon the individual and the locking scenario.
I hate to say "you're wrong", but you are ;-) It depends entirely on the scenario. A friend of mine lost a bike when he popped into a convenience store to grab a six-pack because he didn't have a big, heavy lock with him. A 2lb Foldylock Mini would have saved his bike. So yes, sometimes all we need is a light-duty, easy to carry lock.
I recently found out just how much more enjoyable my ride is with with a lock that doesn't rattle (the foldylock mini), i cannot state enough that security is not the most important.
I would go so far as to say they it is worth it getting a cheaper bike with a lower security rating lock that doesn't 't rattle instead of using a higher security lock on a expensive bike that does rattle.
Kryptonite, Onguard, Trelock and Abus have a lot to learn.
And no, putting a heavy lock in your backpack is not a solution to the rattling.
The best lock is the one you use. Not everyone wants to lug around a 4kg chain.