Crazy how Jason could run around killing countless animals in such horrific ways and not be reported. Not to mention how weird it is that he even had friends to talk to.
Yeah right! If I found out one of my friends randomly beheaded animals and kept the heads in there home I would be off! Not to mention notifying police!
Even if they did something about it, he would probably be released early. Near my area, there is a guy who tortured, sexually assaulted and killed 18 cats and he only served a FOURTH of his 16 year sentence. He was released just this week and they aren't even going to put him on a sex offender registry! His name is Robert Farmer, aka the San Jose cat killer / Cambrian Park cat killer.
@@mollysministuff it's up to us to start petitions to make certain he can never buy or own pets and go on an animal cruelty register.You get Hollywood stars involved Ppl like Oprah , Ellen who most likely have two or three cats and would like to be seen in action doing something charitable
Eleanor has talked on Instagram about her weight loss and has assured us that she's taking healthy steps to lose weight and that she's okay! She also said she's not ready to talk about her weight loss yet and would appreciate people not commenting/talking about it. I understand a lot of the comments come from a place of concern but from what she has said, she's happy and thriving! She also stopped using fake tan and is wearing less makeup which is why she might look a bit different. I think it's important we respect her wishes and privacy and avoid comments about her weight/how she looks, but she is okay :)
@@loveforeignaccents I know right! I understand people are coming from a place of care but it must be so overwhelming reading so many comments about how you look :(
(edit: no, it's not just because she isn't wearing makeup, no it isn't just because she lost weight, though those are factors, those aren't the only reasons. If you want to know my reasons, ask me, instead of assuming you know my reasons.) I just felt worried because she looked like she was sick. I hope she's being honest and that she is okay, because of she was right in the middle of doing something unhealthy it would be very hard for her to tell anyone. In a way it's about her looks, since how you treat your body can effect your looks, but I'm more just hoping she's safe.
@@Senfree I understand but from what I’ve seen on her instagram she seems to be doing really well, she seems really happy within herself. I’m not sure if it’s just the lighting on this video or something but her recent pics on Instagram show her looking really healthy and happy. Although it’s not really our place to speculate, she’s asked for people to stop commenting about it so we should respect that. Im sure she has a good support network of friends and family around her that know a lot more than we do.
I'm very confused as to why Jason apparently had so many friends. If everyone knows Jason kills animals and that he always talks about wanting to murder girls then wouldn't a normal person stop being friends with him immediately? Also, why was he never arrested for animal abuse? Especially when he murdered that girl's dog in front of her family home?
you do realise A LOT of laws regarding animal cruelty were on really made in very recently, not too long ago here you could literally let your dog out to die alone or just kill him and nothing would happen to you, it's the same in a lot of other countries and it is still not a crime in a concerningly big amount of places, even now other living being's lives are still seen as "less than" compared to humans anyways sadly.
I agree, I’m grateful of my Mum and Step dad because if I go quiet for a few days they know somethings up. Cheering for all the good folks out there ❤️🙏
I had to rewind it to make sure I heard the time right about the son being in the background. Maybe it's just me but none of my children would be in the background alone that time of night unless we are all out there doing something together. You better get your behind in this house. I'm also not going to stand there and watch my 14 yr old talk to someone in a vehicle of which I don't know or recognize.
Killing animals in anyway that is not necessary in some cases, or is not done quickly and painlessly enough in other cases is criminalized. Depending on the situation and where it happens killing someone's pet (not including things such as self defense) can be classified as either a misdemeanor or as a felony.
@@sauce-note6367 killing animals in anyway that is not necessary is legal everywhere. murdering animals to eat their corpses is legal, despite not being necessary for survival in modern first-world societies. it's weird how killers like the one in this video get (rightfully) shunned from society, yet slaughterhouse workers are accepted despite having higher rates of rape, domestic violence and murder.
@@Nat-qi4eg okay, so, eating is indeed necessary, having options for different types of foods isn't actually a bad thing, and everyone needs a different type of diet. There isn't one universal diet that works for everyone. Killing food to eat, also still has laws surrounding practices around it.
It is?? That's animal abuse which IS a crime. Some states also have more specific laws regarding killing or harming someone's pet that are even more strict than just animal abuse
I bet Jason gave very different answers to that second psychiatrist so he could go home. He would have known that's what he needed to do to go home at that point.
Thats what I came to the comments to say. If he was honest with the first one about his feelings & It got him sent away, id bet he lied to the second one to get himself out.
@@InteriorDesignStudent ooh yess, and considering that he thought of Bundy as 'his hero', maybe he knew about Bundy's behavior during the interviews and tried to mirror it
I have so many questions, why was a 13-year-old girl hanging out with adult men? And why did her parents think that was okay? Something just doesn’t sit right with me about that.
They obviously didn’t know who their kids were hanging out with. But This was the 90s, they were different times. I remember seeing my uncles, teenagers at the time, just leaving without permission and my grandparent’s didn’t say much. Not justifying what happened, but parents really didn’t question these types of things back then.
It must be so traumatizing for the parents to actually see their children’s killers in the flesh and then get told such delusional stuff about their murders. As well as the girl whose family dog was killed. I can only imagine the terror.
if somebody killed my dog i would be absolutely fuming and want revenge. i do not know how he got away with killing all of those peoples' beloved pets. surely thats illegal, right?
I love it when Eleanor gets heated 😂 It's part of why she's such an amazing true crime RUclipsr, because she's so passionate about the cases she covers ❤
this is so horrifying those teens could have been saved if the second psychiatrist didn't ignored ALL the signs or at least have a second opinion since his assessment contradicted the previous one
@@jitters_xp Same??? How does a fucking psychiatrist agree with whatever fucked up mind he had??? I'm literally questioning what that psychiatrist even thinks most of the time. How does someone just... How. Did they not read his diary?? I'm sorry what
The majority of the homeless population shows the failure of the psychiatric system. The science is good but they do not know how to implement it, constantly giving doses that are impossible to tolerate so people don't use them at all. And then they ignore the family of origin work that needs to be done, claiming that it can all be solved by a pill.
Could've been saved if his MOTHER didn't ignore all these signs. Where was she when her son used to torture animals, kill them and store them in boxes. The horrible smell in his room, his diary books.. His abnormal behavior. His mother must take the blame first.
I was 11/12 years old when I read about this case on an articule about "psycopath children" in a magazine at my grandparents house. This case has been in my mind ever since and never knew the name of it, but the thought of someone deciding to kill after just meeting you always made me lose my sleep. 10 years later, it still gives me the chills
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear ella
Jason's "reaction" to seeing those crime scene photos for the first time answers the question of how his second psychiatric assessment went so differently. He clearly knows how to put on a show, so he probably did just that. He was honest with the first psychiatrist, and got committed for us, so he adjusted with the second to get out. They're absolutely fucking _idiots_ for not getting a second opinion though. A professional psychiatrist declaring a teenager as an immediate threat to his community is a BIG FUCKING DEAL, and is NOT A decision that should've ever been taken lightly. There should've been multiple assessments before some twat just decided to let him loose in the world. And they should damn well know better than to be so easily fooled by someone who was seen as THAT dangerous
Literally! I can't believe they didn't at least go best 2 out of 3 and get a third assessment. If one says yes and the other says no, you're back at square one. You shouldn't call it quits and wish them farewell, you haven't flippin done anything yet. It's so astronomically moronic I can't comprehend why there wasn't more assessments
not a word of what you said was wrong. preach man! they should've definitely looked more into him before letting him just leave. think of how many people they could've indirectly saved...
I just wanted to say THANKYOU for including animal abuse in your warnings at the start of the video! I’ve seen so many cases where they mention SA CP etc but never animal abuse 🥺 I really appreciate it as I find it the hardest to listen to
hey i have the same, i want to watch the video but i dont dare bevause i dont want to hear that but can you tell me if its bad or not so i can know if i should watch it or not? thankyouu
I actually gagged when u told about how Jason murdered that poor family dog just because that girl rejected him. I really have no idea why he wasnt put in jail sooner, it baffles me really. EDIT: Y’all ofcourse i also think it’s terrible that he killed those poor children, don’t put words into my mouth thanks🙂
I feel like he was honest in his first psychiatric assessment, then realized if he was honest about his intentions he wouldn’t be able to fulfill his goal of becoming a serial killer. He turned off that part and faked his way out of the mental health hospital. These types of people are typically very manipulative.
Oh now THAT makes sense. I actually had a thought about this that he may have acted normal for once so the therapist doesn't suspect he's mentally fucked up but I literally ignored the thought
Actually all I did was tell my Dr that the others there were way crazier than me and I wanted to go home. I was home that eve. I was however a self admit and i am not a psychopath, just depressed.
@@victoriabagwell8426 I also was a self admit but the psychs at mine were horrible. I had to get a third party aside from the 2 psychiatrists cause I was in a nervous breakdown the entire day with no unaliving myself ideations, hadn’t for 3 years but both psychs didn’t believe me. Luckily got out within 24 hours but yeah risked having to go see a judge but luckily the third party actually listened to me.
jason is a disgusting man. the way he treated everyone in his life and the way he murdered and mutilated others is actually terrifying. thank you for covering this case.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. but they are also talking about how she does on her videos :l so we should because she would like feedback on her videos good or bad, in this case it's good.
The “last meal” thing annoys me. Did the murderer being executed give the victim a last meal? No? Why should they get anything special being a scum bag
It's so the executioner(s) can feel a little charitable, because they aren't treating him as trashy as he treated his victim(s). Backwards logic, and probably only partial, though it makes sense from a layperson's perspective (at least, it makes sense to me).
because death penalty is taboo for some people. You are essentially murdering someone, thus (technically speaking) doing the same as they probably did but not getting any kind of punishment. This could take a mental toll on the executers. And showing a little bit of compassion, deserved or not, gives them a sense of humanity, a way to accept the fact that they are not like the monsters they execute. Kind of like a placebo effect for them to forget they are killing a living being I guess(?).
I went to school in Palmer, Tx and I remember the day that the younger sister of these two kids got on the bus crying, after they had found the bodies. It was a very sad time for the family. Thank you for covering this.
People are wrong, it could be hard to notice someone is putting on a show, but they shouldn’t be held accountable for murder, maybe get their license taken away but not be held accountable
My theory is that Christina snuck away to get in Jason’s car. Brian saw and went over to see what they were doing. Jason made the decision there that Brian had to come with them and be killed too because he was now a witness. Why else would he bring Brian? Brian might have even thought he was protecting his sister by going.
this also makes a lot of sense with the way they were treated so differently. Christine's murder seemed a lot more brutal and personal, while Brian's murder seemed more like Jason just wanted him out of the way :(
@@bitchlasagna1 Yeah, Brian wasn’t work on like his sister. Why he only one be identified, feel bad for Christina what Jason done to her body. It sad that her head is never been found, after Jason execution😔
Maybe Christina was a bit scared and decided to bring him along with her at the last minute and as soon as she left he jumped in right behind her. Or more likely, she made plans with her brother (didn't want to be alone and asked him to tag along the previous day) and was already in the car than both drove to pick up Brian
Eleanor, can you do a story about the 10 year old girl from Albuquerque, NM named Victoria Martens? Her story is absolutely horrifying and heartbreaking, but definitely a story about a life that should not be forgotten.
Always nice to see cops and detectives actually doing their jobs and actually caring about the victims and their families. It's sad that that seems to be rare in these cases. I guess the victims being children makes them care more, but still.
Omg the fact he was let out from the psychiatric hospital so easily blows my mind.. I'm convinced he was answering differently to avoid staying there longer. Such a shame..
Your research is always cutting edge! I have never seen another true crime youtuber as thorough as you! Also, could you please cover the Joesf Fritzl case? I know there are a million videos from others on it but I want to hear what you have to say about it. I know it isn't a murder but it is a truly disturbing case. He kept his daughter locked in a basement for 24 years while his wife lived upstairs. I would love to see if you could uncover any secrets about the wife, there is no way she could have been that oblivious! Fantastic work btw Eleanor!!
this is one of those cases where i'd say the police actually did a good job, but the public didn't! imagine letting a teenager off for killing 31 animals, as well as all the things he did to anita. disgusting
yes exactly, i’m so used to watching cases where the police are practically useless that it was refreshing to watch a case where the police were actually doing their job. however it’s infuriating that he wasn’t locked up sooner since nobody around him reported his abhorrent behaviour.
I have tried to research and pile into a video. The research wasn't the issue. Compiling it into a mostly chronological video was horror. Can't do it. I will just watch.
I really appreciate your specific, but not too detailed warnings. I don’t think I could handle listening to a story involving animal abuse right now, but I will definitely revisit this video when I’m feeling better 💛
I’ve been really sick today, and it’s hard being alone with my son. But putting you on as background sounds helps so much. Thank you for the work you put in to these cases. ily
This type of person easily learns the answers to a psychiatric assessment and provides the psychiatrist assessing them the answers they want to hear sadly.
its honestly so scary how easy it is to manipulate the therapist when their doing an evaluation. the therapist only truely know how much the person wants them too. truely scary.
I respect Eleanor so much for putting the content warnings before each video starts, it’s so helpful for so many people and i feel like some true crime RUclipsrs completely forget to add them
@@jackbrown4120no need for this comment. You can be interested in true crime but also be a victim of, for example, grooming and not want to listen to cases specifically revolving your personal circumstances..
Absolutely dying, my boyfriend came in as I was playing this and said "oh, god not that depressing northerner again, I had nightmares because of her" 😭😭
I too have had nightmares. But I love Eleanor and im too interested by these cases to stop watching. I dream of people hunting and killing me ever since I started watching this type of content.
Hahaha I think most men find it so weird how we are so intrigued by true crime. I listen to it to get to sleep and my boyfriend is always like ‘wtf is wrong with u’
I just have to say Eleanor I love the fact that you do some of your videos just bear you no makeup no nothing no filters just you and your beautiful face. I appreciate all your content and the fact that you are so down to earth and humble. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your research in your content and editing and making all of these videos for all of us I can only speak for myself but we greatly appreciate it
I was so annoyed that I've woken up so early again turn my phone on to find Eleanor had a video up it instantly made my morning thanks for all the hard work you do your videos and interaction with your audience really helps and cheers up a lot of people x
We have got to start criminally prosecuting people who fail to report dangerous behavior and people who witness crimes and don’t do anything. That should be criminal.
You are the only true crime RUclipsr that I watch! You always put so much life into the stories of these twisted and sick people, and you're so so respectful of the victims. I just finished the 3 part series of the beauty queen killer! You're fantastic Eleanor!
Thanks so much for the disclosures that you do. I can't handle hearing about animal abuse, it hurts my heart, so thanks for letting us know. I love the way you tell the stories, and love your accent. Thanks again.
Oh my god THANK you for the content warning for animal cruelty I watch true crime a lot on RUclips and literally no one does a content warning for animal abuse & it’s highly triggering to me so THANK YOU THANK YOU , please continue to do this !
can we talk about the fact that eleanor looks 5 years younger all of a sudden? i haven’t watched her videos in half a year and she’s changed so much! she looks absolutely amazing
@@rashaela205 Eleanor has talked on Instagram about her weight loss and has assured us that she's taking healthy steps to lose weight and that she's okay! She also said she's not ready to talk about her weight loss yet and would appreciate people not commenting/talking about it. I understand a lot of the comments come from a place of concern but from what she has said, she's happy and thriving! She also stopped using fake tan and is wearing less makeup which is why she might look a bit different. I think it's important we respect her wishes and privacy and avoid comments about her weight/how she looks, but she is okay :)
Eleanor has talked on Instagram about her weight loss and has assured us that she's taking healthy steps to lose weight and that she's okay! She also said she's not ready to talk about her weight loss yet and would appreciate people not commenting/talking about it. I understand a lot of the comments come from a place of concern but from what she has said, she's happy and thriving! She also stopped using fake tan and is wearing less makeup which is why she might look a bit different. I think it's important we respect her wishes and privacy and avoid comments about her weight/how she looks, but she is okay :)
Why would the dad not even ask where his son was going if he didn’t know who was in the car? My mom would have asked who they were and where I thought I was going without permission. I never would have been able to leave at freaking 13 years old! What in the abducted in plain sight parenting is going on?
have not watched yet but i just needed to say you are such a BEAUTIFUL person, like seriously with or without makeup you’re so pretty, plus you’re so kind & considerate and that really shows in these vids.
Anyone else wondering how the poor brother Brian got dragged into this? Especially if Christina was already in the car? What a strange case. Those poor children and their parents
Yes, I was wondering too. If she was already in the car, he had the opportunity before Brian got in. But maybe that's not what happened and we'll never know since Jason didn't tell.
My guess is Brain followed Christina to not leave her alone with a grown man. In a sad way his presence did help her because without his death they wouldn’t have identified Christina’s body.
Maybe Christina was a bit scared and decided to bring him along with her at the last minute and as soon as she left he jumped in right behind her. Or more likely, she made plans with her brother (didn't want to be alone and asked him to tag along the previous day) and was already in the car than both drove to pick up Brian
Thank you so much for uploading a short one parter. I really do appreciate it. I've been feeling so outside of myself, lost in the recommended videos that don't suit my normality. My mental health has not been there enough to watch an hour long video, but I struggle to find short-form true crime content that i enjoy, so hearing you tell this story has really helped me feel more my normal self today. I appreciate you.
You seem so much happier now like you've been reborn! We love seeing you like this love. We would also love a life update vid on your 2nd channel. How your mental health is now? Your weight loss journey? And MOST IMPORTANTLY we just want your random rambling about whatever 🥰 Keep killin it babe!
Eleanorrrrr I’ve missed you girl. I use to watch your videos everyday, but got busy with work. About to binge watch now lol this case is insanee i have no words, but RIP to them kidssss 🙏🏾anywaysss you look great per usual 💗💗 keep up the great work 🤓
I haven't watched your videos in like a month or so, you have changed quite a bit in such a short time, i hope you're doing okay and you're surrounding yourself with good people in your real life, you are loved by so many people that want to see you thrive and be around a long time ❤️❤️
Regarding the vastly different psychiatric assessments: I've been a patient of multiple psychiatrists & therapists over the years, and have also been evaluated by a couple psychologists. This is largely due to changes in insurance coverage (for those who aren't American, basically, if your provider decides they no longer take your insurance, or you switch to a different insurance company because you receive your coverage through work, which most people do here, you will have to switch providers. it's a shitty system). I have PTSD, which I was diagnosed with in 2016, but even after receiving that diagnosis and making my psychiatrist(s) aware of it, I still wasn't even treated for it properly until 2018. I also found out recently that I was being treated for bipolar disorder, which I was never diagnosed with and had no idea was part of my treatment plan, between 2015 and 2017. I never had informed consent for those treatments, and it's very upsetting, because some of the medications I was put on actively worsened the symptoms of my PTSD & comorbid depression, and the doctor I was seeing at the time didn't seem to listen to the concerns I had. I guess now I know why. All of this is just to say-- back then, I'm sure Jason wouldn't have necessarily even had to try very hard to talk his way out of that facility. I live in Oklahoma, the state directly north of Texas. This region is known for serious issues regarding poverty, poor education, high crime rates, and a host of things that contribute to our mental health services being at least 20 years behind other American cities. I've been to two psych facilities in this state, and they were varying degrees of bad. If we've supposedly improved since 1993? I can't imagine he was getting great treatment. On top of that, even in 2015, the first time I was hospitalized, I don't think I spoke to a psychiatrist more than once, and I don't think I saw the same therapist each time I was brought in for a private session. It wouldn't be super uncommon, even today, for someone in a psych facility to see two completely different doctors with two completely different treatment styles and strategies. It's a terrible system.
It's a bad system the Psychiatrist knew how dangerous he was ( the mom would have had to state the diaries was why she was putting him in hospital ,they were poor and free beds weren't common) and it should be in the job description to contact the police when a patient has exhibited serious violence against the nurses or other patients.They could have taken his samples and interviewed him asked about his whereabouts on certain cases . Another strange thing if the family kept moving why did he go to the same school?SMH
Your research and effort put into each video is wonderful! I've loved your videos for years, your eyes and smile just glow even talking about such painful topics
I just wanted to say that I watched all your videos in a span of 2 weeks! And Jesus you have become so professional and focused now! I love how you just get to the point right away. I would love to see more of your videos! Keep going!
The amount of work you put into your videos keeps me sane. Everything is so researched and so well put together. I’ve been watching for so many years now and I’m obsessed with every single video you post !!!!
Hearing him bringing a book on Charles Manson didn’t seem so bad at first, as a teen I was really was into dark and scary “goth shit” (as my mother called it), but then again I found Ted Bundy repulsive and cried when I lost my childhood cat for a day. What I’m getting at is, as long as you monitor your kids, keep it age appropriate and idk, not be neglectful, let your kiddos enjoy some of their weird/creepy interests. I got all the edgy, emo kid stuff out of my system and grew up to be a good person (if still into true crime and horror) who loves/dotes my present brat child of a cat. Jason Massey isn’t the whole of kids who liked creepy interests, he’s a garbage human and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was treated like every child killer in prison.
I was so excited when this video came out and I can't wait to watch it, the title looks so interesting already! One of the perks of living in the UK is that I'm always awake when you upload! You are the true crime master!! Just keep doing what you're doing, we all love you! ♥
I remember hearing about this case. There’s a paperback on it, “Born Bad” which is probably out of print now, and Forensic Files covered this back in the day in an episode entitled “Pure Evil.” The book is ok but the FF episode is really chilling.
This is about 20 miles from where I live. It was so scary. Not knowing who it was. When he was in jail, they had him chained on hands and feet. His visits had no other inmates at visit time only his. Also the book born bad was one of the first with a look into a monster. You did an awesome story !!! Love ❤️ your channel!!!
I had seen a doc. on this case. My heart goes out to the parents that lost both of their teenage children. Hopefully Brian and Christina are resting in peace. 💗
I love how your so carful making these and don’t make inappropriate jokes at the wrong times it’s like u r telling us a story instead of scripted and you are super respectful with the victim’s
I’ve noticed some inappropriate jokes from another big true crime creator I won’t name her but it kinda bugs me the way she tells stories, defiantly not sensitive to the family and not huge deep dives like Eleanor or Stephanie
I live in Australia and I regularly am placed under “the mental health act” basically held in a psychiatrist unit against my will. I’m currently stable I spent a month in there so far this year due to my many illness’ but what I wanted to say is it didn’t surprise me the psychiatrists had complete opposite opinions. It’s actually unbelievably common. I’m always sectioned by an ambulance or police to be assessed and all it takes is 1 assessment by a psychiatrist to decide whether they hold you or not. One of my times there I was assessed at 7pm at night after being scheduled by police around 4pm that day. The psychiatrist decided to keep me under the act and organize a bed for me in one of the wards. But they weren’t able to organize one for me by the next shift rolled round and it was a new psychiatrist on shift. I requested another assessment stating I wanted to leave, so they gave me one and knowing my history and diagnosis’ and what had happened recently, she said I was free to go 🤣 now looking back, she shouldn’t have, I was manic I have Bipolar 1 with psychosis and was seriously unwell. But she let me go and sure enough the police had me back there within a few days and I was finally admitted. But yeah, she sat there knowing all of the above and what the police had told them etc and let me go after the psychiatrist on previous shift wanted me not only admitted but watched 24/7. I’ve gone through this many times over the years, so don’t be surprised. It happens ALL the time. There’s no consistency with psychiatrists 🤣
Ive had the same experiences over the last 20 years…it really is unbelievable to many people that your safety, life etc could be at risk and your help is solely dependant to who is “On call”.
Not the case I thought you where gonna cover but I’m so exited to watch! Can you please cover the current case of the two Texas boys who murdered their stepdad? It’s a controversial one but I think you’d do it justice! (As always) much love from Texas, your hard work on these cases is ALWAYS appreciated by me, and the rest of our Channel family💕
@@emmalu1984 the last I heard the boys where taken into custody and the talk of deporting two of them was thrown out there but I haven’t heard anything else either😕
I just got done telling my wife that listening to your podcast is one of the only times I laugh out loud in my entire life and she was like are you being serious because it’s so rare to see me laugh out loud 😂❤ I was like “it’s more like gabbing with a gf about true crime” 😂❤ keep it up You rock
My mum was his “pen friend” whilst he was on death row (put in place by an online organisation she’d volunteered for at the time) she went out to actually meet him before his death date. She said he came across as just a normal guy. Very polite etc. Really odd character indeed all round. I didn’t find out why he was on death row until I was in my teens and asked her. She still had some of his letters etc from years ago and I did read a couple. It was literally just like she was writing to a normal long distance friend & vice versa. He just seemed like a run of the mill average joe. Not even coming across in the slightest someone who’d be capable of such things, including the things that came before the murders. That’s what makes it so frightening 😐 She stayed friends with his mum for years afterwards though although I don’t think they’re in touch any more. Thanks for covering this! It’s not a case that’s often talked about.
@@Sophiielonsdale I watched her tiktok she uploaded of her weightloss from last year to this year. She's very happy that her heath is improving as she's loosing weight that's why I commented. Thank you for the information x
You know you've become desensitized to the horror human beings are capable of when you're grateful and relieved that a victim was already dead before the really gruesome things happen.
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Me and my Mum love your videos, and we both agree that you look more beautiful without makeup 💗
Hi beautiful! Are u losing weight? U look really slim!! Still beautiful either way just asking…🥰😍
How about covering a parricide? Chandler Halderson it’s fairly new 😊
Crazy how Jason could run around killing countless animals in such horrific ways and not be reported. Not to mention how weird it is that he even had friends to talk to.
right- like why were they friends
Yeah right! If I found out one of my friends randomly beheaded animals and kept the heads in there home I would be off! Not to mention notifying police!
@@kellydedman1720 the police in the mid west are going to say "hes a good sonny , he jest shooting critters" and shrug their shoulders " .
Even if they did something about it, he would probably be released early. Near my area, there is a guy who tortured, sexually assaulted and killed 18 cats and he only served a FOURTH of his 16 year sentence. He was released just this week and they aren't even going to put him on a sex offender registry! His name is Robert Farmer, aka the San Jose cat killer / Cambrian Park cat killer.
@@mollysministuff it's up to us to start petitions to make certain he can never buy or own pets and go on an animal cruelty register.You get Hollywood stars involved Ppl like Oprah , Ellen who most likely have two or three cats and would like to be seen in action doing something charitable
Eleanor has talked on Instagram about her weight loss and has assured us that she's taking healthy steps to lose weight and that she's okay! She also said she's not ready to talk about her weight loss yet and would appreciate people not commenting/talking about it. I understand a lot of the comments come from a place of concern but from what she has said, she's happy and thriving! She also stopped using fake tan and is wearing less makeup which is why she might look a bit different. I think it's important we respect her wishes and privacy and avoid comments about her weight/how she looks, but she is okay :)
Every other comment is about her looks... it's crazy!!
@@loveforeignaccents I know right! I understand people are coming from a place of care but it must be so overwhelming reading so many comments about how you look :(
i kind of wondered about the makeup since she used to do it all the time. but i'm not going to be like "why aren't you wearing makeup" lol
(edit: no, it's not just because she isn't wearing makeup, no it isn't just because she lost weight, though those are factors, those aren't the only reasons. If you want to know my reasons, ask me, instead of assuming you know my reasons.)
I just felt worried because she looked like she was sick. I hope she's being honest and that she is okay, because of she was right in the middle of doing something unhealthy it would be very hard for her to tell anyone.
In a way it's about her looks, since how you treat your body can effect your looks, but I'm more just hoping she's safe.
@@Senfree I understand but from what I’ve seen on her instagram she seems to be doing really well, she seems really happy within herself. I’m not sure if it’s just the lighting on this video or something but her recent pics on Instagram show her looking really healthy and happy. Although it’s not really our place to speculate, she’s asked for people to stop commenting about it so we should respect that. Im sure she has a good support network of friends and family around her that know a lot more than we do.
I'm very confused as to why Jason apparently had so many friends. If everyone knows Jason kills animals and that he always talks about wanting to murder girls then wouldn't a normal person stop being friends with him immediately? Also, why was he never arrested for animal abuse? Especially when he murdered that girl's dog in front of her family home?
Probably scared of him
you do realise A LOT of laws regarding animal cruelty were on really made in very recently, not too long ago here you could literally let your dog out to die alone or just kill him and nothing would happen to you, it's the same in a lot of other countries and it is still not a crime in a concerningly big amount of places, even now other living being's lives are still seen as "less than" compared to humans anyways sadly.
I'm wondering if kids don't report when their friends say terrible things is because lots of kids talk about shit that they never do. ?
It's why he hung out with younger trust me. I was 15 when this happened in my home town and nobody was surprised.
Exactly.
I’m not meaning to victim blame, but it blows my mind how some parents can go to bed without knowing where their children are. 😱
I agree, I’m grateful of my Mum and Step dad because if I go quiet for a few days they know somethings up. Cheering for all the good folks out there ❤️🙏
As a mom, I agree.
Totaly!
I had to rewind it to make sure I heard the time right about the son being in the background. Maybe it's just me but none of my children would be in the background alone that time of night unless we are all out there doing something together. You better get your behind in this house. I'm also not going to stand there and watch my 14 yr old talk to someone in a vehicle of which I don't know or recognize.
@@latishabrown541 🙌🏽me too!
murdering pets should totally be criminalised by now
Right?!?
Killing animals in anyway that is not necessary in some cases, or is not done quickly and painlessly enough in other cases is criminalized. Depending on the situation and where it happens killing someone's pet (not including things such as self defense) can be classified as either a misdemeanor or as a felony.
@@sauce-note6367 killing animals in anyway that is not necessary is legal everywhere. murdering animals to eat their corpses is legal, despite not being necessary for survival in modern first-world societies. it's weird how killers like the one in this video get (rightfully) shunned from society, yet slaughterhouse workers are accepted despite having higher rates of rape, domestic violence and murder.
@@Nat-qi4eg okay, so, eating is indeed necessary, having options for different types of foods isn't actually a bad thing, and everyone needs a different type of diet. There isn't one universal diet that works for everyone. Killing food to eat, also still has laws surrounding practices around it.
It is?? That's animal abuse which IS a crime. Some states also have more specific laws regarding killing or harming someone's pet that are even more strict than just animal abuse
I bet Jason gave very different answers to that second psychiatrist so he could go home. He would have known that's what he needed to do to go home at that point.
Just like Bundy with Dr. Dobson. He told him what he wanted to hear so he'd be believable.
Thats what I came to the comments to say.
If he was honest with the first one about his feelings & It got him sent away, id bet he lied to the second one to get himself out.
exactly what I was thinking
I thought the exact same !
@@InteriorDesignStudent ooh yess, and considering that he thought of Bundy as 'his hero', maybe he knew about Bundy's behavior during the interviews and tried to mirror it
your cases are always so researched, it’s so impressive
@Pinocchio what is it?
@@ivey-i don’t click on it, it’s a virus or an ip grabber
Yeah she's great!
@@boometech6613 thanks!!
Yep, she's the True Crime Queen for good reason!
I have so many questions, why was a 13-year-old girl hanging out with adult men? And why did her parents think that was okay? Something just doesn’t sit right with me about that.
I thought the same like the 14 yr old hopped in a stranger's car and drove off at 11pm? And then the NEXT morning they realized? Good lord
Right. That made no sense to me either.
They obviously didn’t know who their kids were hanging out with. But This was the 90s, they were different times. I remember seeing my uncles, teenagers at the time, just leaving without permission and my grandparent’s didn’t say much. Not justifying what happened, but parents really didn’t question these types of things back then.
They never said they seen her leave with the boys just the son so the parents didn’t know
Some 14 yr olds r like that
It must be so traumatizing for the parents to actually see their children’s killers in the flesh and then get told such delusional stuff about their murders. As well as the girl whose family dog was killed. I can only imagine the terror.
if somebody killed my dog i would be absolutely fuming and want revenge. i do not know how he got away with killing all of those peoples' beloved pets. surely thats illegal, right?
@@Arthurdelslay yes it is illegal but these idiots just didn’t wanna go to the cops to stop this .
When he said he saw 3 angels rise from her body.... PLEASE!!!!!!!! 🤮
@@tae5513 she might've been scared, not only that it's possible there weren't laws on it at the time.
I love it when Eleanor gets heated 😂 It's part of why she's such an amazing true crime RUclipsr, because she's so passionate about the cases she covers ❤
You can certainly tell she does it because she likes it, not just for views and clout.
this is so horrifying those teens could have been saved if the second psychiatrist didn't ignored ALL the signs or at least have a second opinion since his assessment contradicted the previous one
I was looking for this comment, what the actual hell, that one spun me
@@jitters_xp Same??? How does a fucking psychiatrist agree with whatever fucked up mind he had??? I'm literally questioning what that psychiatrist even thinks most of the time. How does someone just... How. Did they not read his diary?? I'm sorry what
@@SpectacleSpark you have to be so naive to think that a deranged person like that with minimal brains wouldnt try to lie and manipulate to get out
The majority of the homeless population shows the failure of the psychiatric system. The science is good but they do not know how to implement it, constantly giving doses that are impossible to tolerate so people don't use them at all. And then they ignore the family of origin work that needs to be done, claiming that it can all be solved by a pill.
Could've been saved if his MOTHER didn't ignore all these signs. Where was she when her son used to torture animals, kill them and store them in boxes. The horrible smell in his room, his diary books.. His abnormal behavior. His mother must take the blame first.
I was 11/12 years old when I read about this case on an articule about "psycopath children" in a magazine at my grandparents house. This case has been in my mind ever since and never knew the name of it, but the thought of someone deciding to kill after just meeting you always made me lose my sleep. 10 years later, it still gives me the chills
I can imagine.
Imagine going on a Tinder date
Eleanor posting alot? Girl this is a blessing
HELP MY!!! My muscles are too big! I am a big tall man and my muscles are even BIGGER! I use them to get views but they HURT so much!!! Because they are heavy. Do you have any advice, dear ella
@@AxxLAfriku bro shut up
@@Idvbaiter thanks🙏🏼
@@AxxLAfriku I’m seeing your comments everywhere ffs it’s so annoying.
Wait, this video was posted 8 hours ago, how is this comment 9 hours ago?
Jason's "reaction" to seeing those crime scene photos for the first time answers the question of how his second psychiatric assessment went so differently. He clearly knows how to put on a show, so he probably did just that. He was honest with the first psychiatrist, and got committed for us, so he adjusted with the second to get out.
They're absolutely fucking _idiots_ for not getting a second opinion though. A professional psychiatrist declaring a teenager as an immediate threat to his community is a BIG FUCKING DEAL, and is NOT A decision that should've ever been taken lightly. There should've been multiple assessments before some twat just decided to let him loose in the world. And they should damn well know better than to be so easily fooled by someone who was seen as THAT dangerous
For God so loved the world that he gave his one and only Son, that whoever believes in him shall not perish but have eternal life. John 3:16
Literally! I can't believe they didn't at least go best 2 out of 3 and get a third assessment. If one says yes and the other says no, you're back at square one. You shouldn't call it quits and wish them farewell, you haven't flippin done anything yet. It's so astronomically moronic I can't comprehend why there wasn't more assessments
not a word of what you said was wrong. preach man! they should've definitely looked more into him before letting him just leave. think of how many people they could've indirectly saved...
@@Castiel4lifedudehonestly sigh
I just wanted to say THANKYOU for including animal abuse in your warnings at the start of the video! I’ve seen so many cases where they mention SA CP etc but never animal abuse 🥺 I really appreciate it as I find it the hardest to listen to
same! they do no wrong at all :( they don’t deserve it
Same!! It triggers me out a lot!!
We have the same exact name lol
me too ❤ you’re strong
hey i have the same, i want to watch the video but i dont dare bevause i dont want to hear that but can you tell me if its bad or not so i can know if i should watch it or not? thankyouu
Gotta love Eleanor! I’ve literally memorized her disclaimer.
In my head I always add “except for the scumbags that make it a true crime case” after she says she mean no disrespect to anyone lol
Same! Legit watched every single one of her videos for 3 years, I could say her intro in my sleep
I actually gagged when u told about how Jason murdered that poor family dog just because that girl rejected him. I really have no idea why he wasnt put in jail sooner, it baffles me really.
EDIT: Y’all ofcourse i also think it’s terrible that he killed those poor children, don’t put words into my mouth thanks🙂
That made me so mad, I hope that loser suffers way worse than his victims.
Fr!!!
But not when he murdered children 🤦🏽♀️🤔
A guy wants to go on a date with me and i say no so he kills my dog…. Dude woulda got a kitchen knife from me lol
This is why animal abuse needs to be taken more seriously by police and lawmakers.
I feel like he was honest in his first psychiatric assessment, then realized if he was honest about his intentions he wouldn’t be able to fulfill his goal of becoming a serial killer. He turned off that part and faked his way out of the mental health hospital.
These types of people are typically very manipulative.
Oh now THAT makes sense. I actually had a thought about this that he may have acted normal for once so the therapist doesn't suspect he's mentally fucked up but I literally ignored the thought
Actually all I did was tell my Dr that the others there were way crazier than me and I wanted to go home. I was home that eve. I was however a self admit and i am not a psychopath, just depressed.
@@victoriabagwell8426 I also was a self admit but the psychs at mine were horrible. I had to get a third party aside from the 2 psychiatrists cause I was in a nervous breakdown the entire day with no unaliving myself ideations, hadn’t for 3 years but both psychs didn’t believe me. Luckily got out within 24 hours but yeah risked having to go see a judge but luckily the third party actually listened to me.
@@keelinmacken9552 I am so glad someone listened. I hope you're doing well its your mental health.
@@victoriabagwell8426 in Canada if you self admit they hold you for a minimum of three days at the psych ward.
jason is a disgusting man. the way he treated everyone in his life and the way he murdered and mutilated others is actually terrifying. thank you for covering this case.
He's a psychopath
I love how she's like the sweetest person when she talks about but literal violent murders. Please never change
My heart absolutely sank when you said that the girl that they found was his step sister. Poor kids, poor parents :(
Can we talk about how much of a natural beauty she is like- how??? She also puts so much dedication into her videos it’s insane!
Since that isn't the topic of the video, no, we should not.
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. but they are also talking about how she does on her videos :l so we should because she would like feedback on her videos good or bad, in this case it's good.
IKRR
She dosent like people talking about her looks
her looks shouldnt be important and it isnt something we should focus on. do you say that about male youtubers too? lets just talk about her video.
The “last meal” thing annoys me. Did the murderer being executed give the victim a last meal? No? Why should they get anything special being a scum bag
I agree. I always wondered why they get that.
I agree with you so much
It's so the executioner(s) can feel a little charitable, because they aren't treating him as trashy as he treated his victim(s). Backwards logic, and probably only partial, though it makes sense from a layperson's perspective (at least, it makes sense to me).
because death penalty is taboo for some people. You are essentially murdering someone, thus (technically speaking) doing the same as they probably did but not getting any kind of punishment. This could take a mental toll on the executers. And showing a little bit of compassion, deserved or not, gives them a sense of humanity, a way to accept the fact that they are not like the monsters they execute. Kind of like a placebo effect for them to forget they are killing a living being I guess(?).
I feel the exact same way! Where's the victims lobster dinners or whatever they choose to have? Insane that they do that for them.
I went to school in Palmer, Tx and I remember the day that the younger sister of these two kids got on the bus crying, after they had found the bodies. It was a very sad time for the family. Thank you for covering this.
The second psychologist who let him out of the hospital should be held partially accountable for these murders.
totally agree
Not psychologist but a psychiatrist. That failure held so much authority and screwed up so badly
People are wrong, it could be hard to notice someone is putting on a show, but they shouldn’t be held accountable for murder, maybe get their license taken away but not be held accountable
My theory is that Christina snuck away to get in Jason’s car. Brian saw and went over to see what they were doing. Jason made the decision there that Brian had to come with them and be killed too because he was now a witness. Why else would he bring Brian? Brian might have even thought he was protecting his sister by going.
That exactly what I thought too, because I felt like Brian was not his target. Just Christine.
this also makes a lot of sense with the way they were treated so differently. Christine's murder seemed a lot more brutal and personal, while Brian's murder seemed more like Jason just wanted him out of the way :(
@@bitchlasagna1 Yeah, Brian wasn’t work on like his sister. Why he only one be identified, feel bad for Christina what Jason done to her body. It sad that her head is never been found, after Jason execution😔
Thinking of Brian going to possibly protect his sister is actually really heart breaking
Maybe Christina was a bit scared and decided to bring him along with her at the last minute and as soon as she left he jumped in right behind her. Or more likely, she made plans with her brother (didn't want to be alone and asked him to tag along the previous day) and was already in the car than both drove to pick up Brian
Eleanor, can you do a story about the 10 year old girl from Albuquerque, NM named Victoria Martens? Her story is absolutely horrifying and heartbreaking, but definitely a story about a life that should not be forgotten.
The investigation team really went above and beyond with this one.
Always nice to see cops and detectives actually doing their jobs and actually caring about the victims and their families. It's sad that that seems to be rare in these cases. I guess the victims being children makes them care more, but still.
Omg the fact he was let out from the psychiatric hospital so easily blows my mind.. I'm convinced he was answering differently to avoid staying there longer. Such a shame..
Your research is always cutting edge! I have never seen another true crime youtuber as thorough as you! Also, could you please cover the Joesf Fritzl case? I know there are a million videos from others on it but I want to hear what you have to say about it. I know it isn't a murder but it is a truly disturbing case. He kept his daughter locked in a basement for 24 years while his wife lived upstairs. I would love to see if you could uncover any secrets about the wife, there is no way she could have been that oblivious! Fantastic work btw Eleanor!!
This was one of the first true crime cases I ever heard of. I was like 9 and deeply disturbed by it.
I agree I watched the film yesterday c
@@hali_55 my
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you should definitely check Stephanie Harlow then cause the level of research she does is out of this world!
@@boyfriendshouse I was just about to comment this! Love Stephanie so much
this is one of those cases where i'd say the police actually did a good job, but the public didn't! imagine letting a teenager off for killing 31 animals, as well as all the things he did to anita. disgusting
Did she get skinnier?
@@ryuharsetyopashaharidadi8029 huh?
yes exactly, i’m so used to watching cases where the police are practically useless that it was refreshing to watch a case where the police were actually doing their job. however it’s infuriating that he wasn’t locked up sooner since nobody around him reported his abhorrent behaviour.
It’s crazy how much time and effort you put into these videos. Huge respect. Keep up the good work
I have tried to research and pile into a video. The research wasn't the issue. Compiling it into a mostly chronological video was horror. Can't do it. I will just watch.
She also lost alot of weight
I really appreciate your specific, but not too detailed warnings. I don’t think I could handle listening to a story involving animal abuse right now, but I will definitely revisit this video when I’m feeling better 💛
So nice to see that she lost all of the awkwardness on camera. She seems soo much more confident in her videos now
Eleanor and Mike (that chapter) are my fave channels on here. The research and effort shows every time.
I love Mike too! Let's give it a goo
Check out Stephanie Harlow and her podcast called True Crime Weekly. She is just as good
Crime weekly , yeah man Stephanie and Derek 🙌
Yes!! Same girl! JCS is no longer posting due to channel strikes, so sad, but please watch those videos as well. They’re amazing!
Same! I’ve been obsessed with them and their accents
I’ve been really sick today, and it’s hard being alone with my son. But putting you on as background sounds helps so much. Thank you for the work you put in to these cases. ily
I hope that you feel better sweetheart!
i definitely feel this.
This type of person easily learns the answers to a psychiatric assessment and provides the psychiatrist assessing them the answers they want to hear sadly.
its honestly so scary how easy it is to manipulate the therapist when their doing an evaluation. the therapist only truely know how much the person wants them too. truely scary.
I respect Eleanor so much for putting the content warnings before each video starts, it’s so helpful for so many people and i feel like some true crime RUclipsrs completely forget to add them
So what it's about murders, if people don't know what to expect then they're probably to dumb to understand a disclaimer.
@@jackbrown4120no need for this comment. You can be interested in true crime but also be a victim of, for example, grooming and not want to listen to cases specifically revolving your personal circumstances..
The pure excitement getting this notification on a Friday afternoon 🙌 Eleanor is the QUEEN
A crown and a queen?
Yessir this is like almost the first time I've been early
Absolutely dying, my boyfriend came in as I was playing this and said "oh, god not that depressing northerner again, I had nightmares because of her" 😭😭
Damn he’s not wrong😂
😂😂😂
I too have had nightmares. But I love Eleanor and im too interested by these cases to stop watching. I dream of people hunting and killing me ever since I started watching this type of content.
Hahaha I think most men find it so weird how we are so intrigued by true crime. I listen to it to get to sleep and my boyfriend is always like ‘wtf is wrong with u’
I always get teary eye when she says “look after yourselves” - she’s such a beautiful person 🥺💗
I just have to say Eleanor I love the fact that you do some of your videos just bear you no makeup no nothing no filters just you and your beautiful face. I appreciate all your content and the fact that you are so down to earth and humble. Thank you for all the time and effort you put into your research in your content and editing and making all of these videos for all of us I can only speak for myself but we greatly appreciate it
I don't understand why people don't go to prison for repetitive animal killings when that's literally the first sign half of the time
I was so annoyed that I've woken up so early again turn my phone on to find Eleanor had a video up it instantly made my morning thanks for all the hard work you do your videos and interaction with your audience really helps and cheers up a lot of people x
We have got to start criminally prosecuting people who fail to report dangerous behavior and people who witness crimes and don’t do anything. That should be criminal.
Agreed, that’s the same as committing the crime in my book
@@NIKSTAR112 um - no it's not
I agree, but just to play devil’s advocate, I would be worried it would discourage people from testifying in order to not incriminate themselves.
Seriously
@@lauranoble3765 Isn't that what people are already doing?
You are the only true crime RUclipsr that I watch! You always put so much life into the stories of these twisted and sick people, and you're so so respectful of the victims. I just finished the 3 part series of the beauty queen killer! You're fantastic Eleanor!
Thanks so much for the disclosures that you do. I can't handle hearing about animal abuse, it hurts my heart, so thanks for letting us know. I love the way you tell the stories, and love your accent. Thanks again.
Oh my god THANK you for the content warning for animal cruelty I watch true crime a lot on RUclips and literally no one does a content warning for animal abuse & it’s highly triggering to me so THANK YOU THANK YOU , please continue to do this !
i’m not even 7 minutes into this case and I am absolutely horrified. this is so sad and terrifying :(
can we talk about the fact that eleanor looks 5 years younger all of a sudden? i haven’t watched her videos in half a year and she’s changed so much! she looks absolutely amazing
Idk if this sounds rude (which I’m not trying to be) but like it looks like she lost weight and she has on no makeup .
@@rashaela205 yeah, i thought about that too, she looks beautiful though
@@rashaela205 Eleanor has talked on Instagram about her weight loss and has assured us that she's taking healthy steps to lose weight and that she's okay! She also said she's not ready to talk about her weight loss yet and would appreciate people not commenting/talking about it. I understand a lot of the comments come from a place of concern but from what she has said, she's happy and thriving! She also stopped using fake tan and is wearing less makeup which is why she might look a bit different. I think it's important we respect her wishes and privacy and avoid comments about her weight/how she looks, but she is okay :)
Eleanor has talked on Instagram about her weight loss and has assured us that she's taking healthy steps to lose weight and that she's okay! She also said she's not ready to talk about her weight loss yet and would appreciate people not commenting/talking about it. I understand a lot of the comments come from a place of concern but from what she has said, she's happy and thriving! She also stopped using fake tan and is wearing less makeup which is why she might look a bit different. I think it's important we respect her wishes and privacy and avoid comments about her weight/how she looks, but she is okay :)
@@torinoobz Ooooh I’m sorry I didn’t know😭😭 I just got to watching her channel fr.. Thank you.
five minutes in and i already know this case is gonna be hard to watch. props to you eleanor for putting so much effort into all of your videos.
I am so obsessed with ur channel so entertaining binge watch them every day
Why would the dad not even ask where his son was going if he didn’t know who was in the car? My mom would have asked who they were and where I thought I was going without permission. I never would have been able to leave at freaking 13 years old! What in the abducted in plain sight parenting is going on?
I live in Texas and grew up not too far from Ellis county. Never heard of this case before, I appreciate you bringing this case to light
Whaaaaat it was on Forensic Files I was 15 living in Ennis when this happened
have not watched yet but i just needed to say you are such a BEAUTIFUL person, like seriously with or without makeup you’re so pretty, plus you’re so kind & considerate and that really shows in these vids.
Anyone else wondering how the poor brother Brian got dragged into this? Especially if Christina was already in the car? What a strange case. Those poor children and their parents
Yes, I was wondering too. If she was already in the car, he had the opportunity before Brian got in. But maybe that's not what happened and we'll never know since Jason didn't tell.
My guess is Brain followed Christina to not leave her alone with a grown man. In a sad way his presence did help her because without his death they wouldn’t have identified Christina’s body.
Maybe Christina was a bit scared and decided to bring him along with her at the last minute and as soon as she left he jumped in right behind her. Or more likely, she made plans with her brother (didn't want to be alone and asked him to tag along the previous day) and was already in the car than both drove to pick up Brian
as horrible as it is, i’m so glad that christina was sh0t and didn’t have to suffer with whatever he would’ve put her through.
Thank you so much for uploading a short one parter. I really do appreciate it. I've been feeling so outside of myself, lost in the recommended videos that don't suit my normality. My mental health has not been there enough to watch an hour long video, but I struggle to find short-form true crime content that i enjoy, so hearing you tell this story has really helped me feel more my normal self today. I appreciate you.
Just when I’d had to start rewatching her vids to get my Eleanor fix, she gifts us with a new one ✨
You seem so much happier now like you've been reborn! We love seeing you like this love. We would also love a life update vid on your 2nd channel. How your mental health is now? Your weight loss journey? And MOST IMPORTANTLY we just want your random rambling about whatever 🥰 Keep killin it babe!
I love how you explain and detailed everything. I love watching you. These cases are very interesting.
Eleanorrrrr I’ve missed you girl. I use to watch your videos everyday, but got busy with work. About to binge watch now lol this case is insanee i have no words, but RIP to them kidssss 🙏🏾anywaysss you look great per usual 💗💗 keep up the great work 🤓
I love when you tell cases and actually do research your really a inspiration❤️
I haven't watched your videos in like a month or so, you have changed quite a bit in such a short time, i hope you're doing okay and you're surrounding yourself with good people in your real life, you are loved by so many people that want to see you thrive and be around a long time ❤️❤️
I was wanting to comment something relating to this but I couldn’t quite find the words to convey the kindness that came with it ❤️
@@WonderWoman083 Same!! I absolutely love her but something seems different with her
@@jaymee16nnelson18 she’s lost a lot of weight and stopped wearing makeup so much. I hope she’s just thriving and on a health kick!
@@jaymee16nnelson18really? "something"? doesnt take a rocket scientist..
From what I know she’s just focused on her health since covid hit so I don’t think she’s unwell I think she’s just lost weight and wearing less makeup
Regarding the vastly different psychiatric assessments: I've been a patient of multiple psychiatrists & therapists over the years, and have also been evaluated by a couple psychologists. This is largely due to changes in insurance coverage (for those who aren't American, basically, if your provider decides they no longer take your insurance, or you switch to a different insurance company because you receive your coverage through work, which most people do here, you will have to switch providers. it's a shitty system). I have PTSD, which I was diagnosed with in 2016, but even after receiving that diagnosis and making my psychiatrist(s) aware of it, I still wasn't even treated for it properly until 2018. I also found out recently that I was being treated for bipolar disorder, which I was never diagnosed with and had no idea was part of my treatment plan, between 2015 and 2017. I never had informed consent for those treatments, and it's very upsetting, because some of the medications I was put on actively worsened the symptoms of my PTSD & comorbid depression, and the doctor I was seeing at the time didn't seem to listen to the concerns I had. I guess now I know why.
All of this is just to say-- back then, I'm sure Jason wouldn't have necessarily even had to try very hard to talk his way out of that facility. I live in Oklahoma, the state directly north of Texas. This region is known for serious issues regarding poverty, poor education, high crime rates, and a host of things that contribute to our mental health services being at least 20 years behind other American cities. I've been to two psych facilities in this state, and they were varying degrees of bad. If we've supposedly improved since 1993? I can't imagine he was getting great treatment. On top of that, even in 2015, the first time I was hospitalized, I don't think I spoke to a psychiatrist more than once, and I don't think I saw the same therapist each time I was brought in for a private session. It wouldn't be super uncommon, even today, for someone in a psych facility to see two completely different doctors with two completely different treatment styles and strategies. It's a terrible system.
@sarah chill
Regarding your PTSD, it probably isn't helping that you do that awful stuff to your face in your Avatar.
@@TapDancerDood Says the dude proudly displaying an ugly tattoo in his 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣
It's a bad system the Psychiatrist knew how dangerous he was ( the mom would have had to state the diaries was why she was putting him in hospital ,they were poor and free beds weren't common) and it should be in the job description to contact the police when a patient has exhibited serious violence against the nurses or other patients.They could have taken his samples and interviewed him asked about his whereabouts on certain cases .
Another strange thing if the family kept moving why did he go to the same school?SMH
It's like this where I live, I work at one actually!
I love how well you tell these stories better than other true crimes stories. Netflix is one that I can’t stay focus. So thank you!
Your research and effort put into each video is wonderful! I've loved your videos for years, your eyes and smile just glow even talking about such painful topics
I just wanted to say that I watched all your videos in a span of 2 weeks! And Jesus you have become so professional and focused now! I love how you just get to the point right away. I would love to see more of your videos! Keep going!
I'm a true crime addict! I could honestly listen to you 24/7. Thank you for what you do.
The amount of work you put into your videos keeps me sane. Everything is so researched and so well put together. I’ve been watching for so many years now and I’m obsessed with every single video you post !!!!
Loving the pace of uploads again Miss Neale!! I could happily watch videos by you daily and never get bored xxxx
Hearing him bringing a book on Charles Manson didn’t seem so bad at first, as a teen I was really was into dark and scary “goth shit” (as my mother called it), but then again I found Ted Bundy repulsive and cried when I lost my childhood cat for a day. What I’m getting at is, as long as you monitor your kids, keep it age appropriate and idk, not be neglectful, let your kiddos enjoy some of their weird/creepy interests. I got all the edgy, emo kid stuff out of my system and grew up to be a good person (if still into true crime and horror) who loves/dotes my present brat child of a cat. Jason Massey isn’t the whole of kids who liked creepy interests, he’s a garbage human and I wouldn’t be surprised if he was treated like every child killer in prison.
Haven’t watched for a few months and came back to a whole new person! You look great Eleanor!
I was so excited when this video came out and I can't wait to watch it, the title looks so interesting already! One of the perks of living in the UK is that I'm always awake when you upload! You are the true crime master!! Just keep doing what you're doing, we all love you! ♥
Hello fellow furry. Yeah i agree
I remember hearing about this case. There’s a paperback on it, “Born Bad” which is probably out of print now, and Forensic Files covered this back in the day in an episode entitled “Pure Evil.” The book is ok but the FF episode is really chilling.
You always amaze me. So sincere and compassionate no matter what case you cover.
This is about 20 miles from where I live. It was so scary. Not knowing who it was. When he was in jail, they had him chained on hands and feet. His visits had no other inmates at visit time only his. Also the book born bad was one of the first with a look into a monster. You did an awesome story !!! Love ❤️ your channel!!!
you are always so well researched and prepared. im obsessed
I had seen a doc. on this case. My heart goes out to the parents that lost both of their teenage children. Hopefully Brian and Christina are resting in peace. 💗
You're looking very healthy and radiant Eleanor, well done!
I love how your so carful making these and don’t make inappropriate jokes at the wrong times it’s like u r telling us a story instead of scripted and you are super respectful with the victim’s
I’ve noticed some inappropriate jokes from another big true crime creator I won’t name her but it kinda bugs me the way she tells stories, defiantly not sensitive to the family and not huge deep dives like Eleanor or Stephanie
@@crystalpeterson8730 ............ba....bai...bail......baile.....bailey.......
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I live in Australia and I regularly am placed under “the mental health act” basically held in a psychiatrist unit against my will. I’m currently stable I spent a month in there so far this year due to my many illness’ but what I wanted to say is it didn’t surprise me the psychiatrists had complete opposite opinions. It’s actually unbelievably common. I’m always sectioned by an ambulance or police to be assessed and all it takes is 1 assessment by a psychiatrist to decide whether they hold you or not. One of my times there I was assessed at 7pm at night after being scheduled by police around 4pm that day. The psychiatrist decided to keep me under the act and organize a bed for me in one of the wards. But they weren’t able to organize one for me by the next shift rolled round and it was a new psychiatrist on shift. I requested another assessment stating I wanted to leave, so they gave me one and knowing my history and diagnosis’ and what had happened recently, she said I was free to go 🤣 now looking back, she shouldn’t have, I was manic I have Bipolar 1 with psychosis and was seriously unwell. But she let me go and sure enough the police had me back there within a few days and I was finally admitted. But yeah, she sat there knowing all of the above and what the police had told them etc and let me go after the psychiatrist on previous shift wanted me not only admitted but watched 24/7. I’ve gone through this many times over the years, so don’t be surprised. It happens ALL the time. There’s no consistency with psychiatrists 🤣
Ive had the same experiences over the last 20 years…it really is unbelievable to many people that your safety, life etc could be at risk and your help is solely dependant to who is “On call”.
I get through all my motherly chores listening to you 😁 thanks Eleanor x
Not the case I thought you where gonna cover but I’m so exited to watch! Can you please cover the current case of the two Texas boys who murdered their stepdad? It’s a controversial one but I think you’d do it justice! (As always) much love from Texas, your hard work on these cases is ALWAYS appreciated by me, and the rest of our Channel family💕
What's the latest news on that. I haven't heard anything anymore
@@emmalu1984 the last I heard the boys where taken into custody and the talk of deporting two of them was thrown out there but I haven’t heard anything else either😕
Is it the case where the boys were protecting their little sister?
@@rileyc172 yeah so maybe they're not letting the public know anything else. Cus I think that's the last thing i heard about the case.
i think Eleanore only covers older cases to try and respect families/loved ones of victims more, pretty sure she’s spoken about it in an older video!x
I really appreciate all of the research that goes into your content! And you explain things so well!
Not me being in the middle of an Eleanor Neale binge and then a new video gets posted just as I’m finishing like my 8th one 💀
Lol same
I just got done telling my wife that listening to your podcast is one of the only times I laugh out loud in my entire life and she was like are you being serious because it’s so rare to see me laugh out loud 😂❤ I was like “it’s more like gabbing with a gf about true crime” 😂❤ keep it up
You rock
As someone who lives in the uk, it never fails to baffle me the things you can just buy at Walmart 😅
can't wait, also very scared considering the fact one of the first words said in this video is "gruesome"
When you said he had a stepsister, my stomach dropped.... Imagine losing two of your children at the same time, so brutally.... omg 😳🥺💔💔💔💔💔💔💔
Thank you for putting so much time and effort into your videos. So admiring!
Thanks so much for sharing this case E 😊 such great detail! You are looking spectacular as always.
My mum was his “pen friend” whilst he was on death row (put in place by an online organisation she’d volunteered for at the time) she went out to actually meet him before his death date. She said he came across as just a normal guy. Very polite etc. Really odd character indeed all round. I didn’t find out why he was on death row until I was in my teens and asked her. She still had some of his letters etc from years ago and I did read a couple. It was literally just like she was writing to a normal long distance friend & vice versa. He just seemed like a run of the mill average joe. Not even coming across in the slightest someone who’d be capable of such things, including the things that came before the murders. That’s what makes it so frightening 😐
She stayed friends with his mum for years afterwards though although I don’t think they’re in touch any more.
Thanks for covering this! It’s not a case that’s often talked about.
Why would someone want to write to him?
@@WouldntULikeToKnow. I think it wasn’t really a matter of choice back then it was just whoever was “assigned” but I’m not quite sure.
@@theneensspeech i can’t imagine being in a situation where I was compelled or assigned to becoming a pen pal with murderers.
@@tellmeofyourhomeworldusul6060 nobody’s asking you to
@@theneensspeech Who would assign such a thing?
I just want to say you do such a good job at researching all of your cases
I’m 34 weeks pregnant and my son probably knows your voice more than mine 🤣🥰 I love your videos sooo much!
You're glowing! I was binging old videos and the weightloss is amazing, well done😍
She’s said a few times comments on her body aren’t wanted, just to let you know x
@@Sophiielonsdale I watched her tiktok she uploaded of her weightloss from last year to this year. She's very happy that her heath is improving as she's loosing weight that's why I commented. Thank you for the information x
You know you've become desensitized to the horror human beings are capable of when you're grateful and relieved that a victim was already dead before the really gruesome things happen.
eleanor your voice is so soothing & just lovely to listen to! thank you for putting loads of hard work into your videos ❤️