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  • @GrowlingSidewinder
    @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +161

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    Turns out the split throttle thing actually can help you control the Tomcat with a lot more authority, pretty cool to see what kind of thing in the movie too. Maybe they got that advice from real pilots who did it in real life? I don't know. Super dangerous but high payoff in a dogfight. Thanks for watching guys, Much Love.

    • @doncalypso
      @doncalypso Год назад +7

      Since the engine nacelles are as widely spaced in Flankers and MiG-29s it would be worth you trying this technique in those planes as well.

    • @Leonardo-wn2fp
      @Leonardo-wn2fp Год назад +17

      I can recall an article where one F-14 Pilot shared stories of his time flying the big fighter. He mentioned that a fellow pilot of his had actually mastered the split throttle technique and could use it to execute the perfect turn with the Tomcat. He himself told that he never quite made it to that level of perfect timing, so it seems like this technique was very very difficult to execute perfectly.

    • @philswift791
      @philswift791 Год назад +2

      I use this in Il2 2 and it is impressive how fast the 2 engine aircraft will turn doing it. That might be a fun video.

    • @ecoop20
      @ecoop20 Год назад

      Love seeing the Cat do awesome stuff! It really is amazing what can be done if you push it.
      It's been a while since you've done a warbird fight. Would love to see you do another one. Maybe something in the Fw 190?
      Also, if you could explain some of the differences in how WWII dogfighting tactics differ from jet tactics, that'd be amazing. I know there are things like how the vertical is handled differently, but is there any other major difference?
      Appreciate all you do! You're awesome!

    • @johnhancey2746
      @johnhancey2746 Год назад +1

      Do you think the Hornet could use the same tactic?

  • @__-fm5qv
    @__-fm5qv Год назад +764

    The fact that the F-14 can, in the right circumstances, go 1-circle with a super hornet is frankly amazing.

    • @M167A1
      @M167A1 Год назад +49

      It was an amazing aircraft

    • @__-fm5qv
      @__-fm5qv Год назад +32

      @@M167A1 Oh absolutely! Its capability only matched by its difficulty to fly it at said full capability.

    • @friendlyreptile9931
      @friendlyreptile9931 Год назад +54

      Yeah and don'T forget that the DCS version is just a A and B model. Everything changed with the D. The new avionics and engines made it a totaly new airplane.

    • @jiceBERG
      @jiceBERG Год назад +24

      @@friendlyreptile9931 the B and D both had F110. D had the upgraded AWG radar suite. All incredible airplanes in the right hands but the GE engine made that airplane the fighter it was intended to be.

    • @timothywilkins1831
      @timothywilkins1831 Год назад +34

      @@__-fm5qv Imagine if the Super Tomcat with fly-by-wire and vectored thrust was ever made!

  • @Hakumai_o7
    @Hakumai_o7 Год назад +998

    The fact that the F14 seems to have so many of these unconventional tricks up it's sleeve that a seasoned pilot can employ gives it so much character in my eyes. Really cool to see how much performance you can get out of the Tomcat if you really wring it's neck out. Kinda proves the point Rooster says in the movie about it not being about the plane, but the pilot.

    • @Austin-cn8vh
      @Austin-cn8vh Год назад +122

      I recall seeing a video featuring a former F-14 pilot explaining that one of the biggest reasons the tomcat was so good as a fighter was that there were planes faster than it. There were planes that could fly slower than it. But there has never been a plane that is both faster and slower than a tomcat in a fight. It always has a place in the flight envelope where it has an advantage. And a good pilot could take that little edge and bring the plane home pretty much every time.

    • @brandonclark435
      @brandonclark435 Год назад +71

      @@Austin-cn8vh More than that, it is effectively two planes in one. Wings swept back and swept forward, the Tomcat changes. It is a different fight.
      Eagle pilots realized they could read the energy state just by wing sweep. But the wings can be swept manually, Tomcats could use manual sweep to fool Eagle drivers.

    • @jrmbayne
      @jrmbayne Год назад +43

      Almost every airplane can outperform its pilot, but the tomcat seems to be an extension of the pilot

    • @Pman353
      @Pman353 Год назад +18

      I think that’s why I like older planes. They have a lot more creative tactics that can be used, while modern jets are so well designed there isn’t much creativity needed.

    • @iivin4233
      @iivin4233 Год назад +20

      @@Pman353 You hear tales of novice F-35 pilots out-fighting seasoned F-16 pilots. I am not an expert in military aircraft but if that's true then isn't that a good thing?
      After all it's not about looking cool. It's about winning and our boys coming home.

  • @brunoks6951
    @brunoks6951 Год назад +504

    9:30 Maverick was right TWICE. When he said "the enemy knows everything inside the f-18 manual too''. You used your knowledge on f-18, and exploited it in a well executed tactic.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +191

      Aha ya when he tosses the NATOPS in the trash. That was a great scene.

    • @CoffeeMatt10
      @CoffeeMatt10 Год назад +113

      “I’m gonna assume you know this book inside and out?”
      “Yeah!”
      “Damn straight!”
      📕
      🗑
      “So does your enemy.”

    • @SupaMan2122
      @SupaMan2122 Год назад +22

      It’s really whichever real pilot offered the input for the film, hope we find that out someday

    • @seeingeyegod
      @seeingeyegod Год назад +2

      If he had to fight an F-18E here instead of a C the outcome might have been different

    • @WolfpackOne
      @WolfpackOne Год назад +8

      @@seeingeyegod he fought an E

  • @BadAssEngineering
    @BadAssEngineering Год назад +303

    Im convinced TGM writers actually spoke with Top F14 pilots and asked what tricks they used with the F14s.
    That Split Throttle thing is not something any writer would pull out of their ass

    • @Agent-Strawman
      @Agent-Strawman Год назад +55

      That's some Tom Clancy kind of writing.

    • @GrowlingSidewinder
      @GrowlingSidewinder  Год назад +158

      I would bet money you’re correct about that. I mean we know for a fact they spoke to real pilots but the split throttle thing for sure they got from a real pilot. You’re right no writer is pulling that one out of the blue.

    • @xxZerosumxx
      @xxZerosumxx Год назад +5

      Maybe he's a really really good writer? lol

    • @ed4709
      @ed4709 Год назад +11

      @@xxZerosumxx
      No, no he’s not.

    • @AP-te6mk
      @AP-te6mk Год назад +17

      Pretty normal to have military advisors involved in the making of the movie. Not to mention the sheer number of naval aviators involved in Top Gun: Maverick. I'm sure there was a wealth of knowledge to pull from.

  • @Trains-With-Shane
    @Trains-With-Shane Год назад +564

    Remember guys. They didn't retire the F14 because it was junk. They retired it for cost savings. The Tomcat is one of the most impressive aircraft of its generation. It's absolutely incredible what the "Grumman Iron Works" managed to achieve. Such a huge aircraft yet so capable even in a dogfight with smaller and supposedly more agile opponents.

    • @Xechran
      @Xechran Год назад +66

      Cheney had it out for the cat since the 80s. When he got it killed the justification was that it was 1960s tech in a new era, it could no longer compete.
      And then they sent these beautiful birds to the shredders, because allowing Iran to get any parts and keep their aging Tomcats in the air was too dangerous to the Tomcat's own replacement. SMH.

    • @Ankhobo
      @Ankhobo Год назад +45

      It would have been even better if the navy chose to go with the proposed upgrades to the F-14.

    • @juslitor
      @juslitor Год назад +26

      That, and the airframes were EOL

    • @wastedapathy22
      @wastedapathy22 Год назад +20

      It’s a crime that so few Ds were built.

    • @Stinger522
      @Stinger522 Год назад +12

      @@juslitor End of Life?

  • @air-headedaviator1805
    @air-headedaviator1805 Год назад +151

    Remember hearing from a WW2 Lockheed Lightning veteran on a production how one of the best advantages of the lightning was split throttle, throttling back either engine allowing for greater roll reaction. The P-38 of course was a huge aircraft fighting against nimble Japanese fighter craft, so it couldn’t rate or one-circle fight any of them on equal footing, but split throttle even gave them a fighting advantage.

    • @ScottOmatic
      @ScottOmatic Год назад +19

      Yes, there was a famous mock dogfight with a Spitfire ace vs a P-38 ace, (unfortunately I forget what pilots were involved), and the Spitfire supposedly could not evade or outmaneuver the P-38 due to the tactical use of adjust the engine torque through the split-throttle).

    • @air-headedaviator1805
      @air-headedaviator1805 Год назад +8

      @@ScottOmatic thats kinda rad. I can imagine the 2 locked in a downward spiral, but the Lightning using differential to keep its nose pointed at the Spit, despite its attempt to out turn it.

    • @f-111fmissionsimulator4
      @f-111fmissionsimulator4 Год назад +6

      Yes, think Jeff Ethell mentioned his father using this tactic coupled with the maneuvering flaps in North Africa. Believe Major Richard Bong noted using this same tactic as well.

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker Год назад +5

      P-38 had also other advantage. It was 2 engine but contra rotating propellers. Because of that plane had no propeller counter force rolling plane at low speed or during stall condition. P-38 could literally hang on it's propellers or fly straight without wing drop during stall.

    • @kalui96
      @kalui96 Год назад

      なに?????

  • @MAB-nj8wf
    @MAB-nj8wf Год назад +287

    Also, would like to see how things might look in regards to Mavericks father, Duke Mitchell, and a simulation of a F-4B vs. a MiG-17.

    • @TheNinjaMarmot
      @TheNinjaMarmot Год назад +28

      Wasn't his dad against half a dozen Migs?

    • @MAB-nj8wf
      @MAB-nj8wf Год назад +16

      @@TheNinjaMarmot Something like that. Maybe run the simulation where its against 3 MiG-17's...

    • @no_regerts5176
      @no_regerts5176 Год назад +49

      @@TheNinjaMarmot They we’re like fireflies all over the sky. His F4 was hit, and he was wounded but he could have made it back. He stayed in it. Saved three planes before he bought it.

    • @judyhopps9380
      @judyhopps9380 Год назад +3

      @@no_regerts5176 sounds more like they went for him whilst his mates did a runner

    • @BeingFireRetardant
      @BeingFireRetardant Год назад +6

      @@judyhopps9380
      He was quoting Tom Skerritt...

  • @seanbrown207
    @seanbrown207 Год назад +152

    Amazing that an older jet like the F-14 can keep up in a dogfight against more modern fighters, given a seasoned pilot and some unconventional tactics like differential thrust!

    • @VuLamDang
      @VuLamDang Год назад +22

      Imagine a fully digitalized F-14 with FBW (or even fly by optic), predictive algorithm... it's gonna smoke everything bar raptor

    • @adrewadrew5860
      @adrewadrew5860 Год назад +2

      ​@@VuLamDang yes and that will cost more then brand new F 35.

    • @seppi1789
      @seppi1789 Год назад +3

      @@VuLamDang laughs in every supermanuverable fighter out there

    • @ronaldthompson4989
      @ronaldthompson4989 Год назад +1

      Food for thought, the F-4 Phantom is about as fast as the F-35. Advancements in handling, weaponry, sensors, etc. are undeniably worth it, but the pilot still matters. That gapz between what a vehicle is SUPPOSED to do versus what it CAN do if you are crazy enough :)

    • @animationcycles7109
      @animationcycles7109 Год назад +1

      If it didn't COST so much to keep in maintenance, fly worthy condition, (and upgrading/updating) it probably not have been chucked aside. Platform wise, it's a solid aircraft. Simply too much cost for upkeep.
      If I remember correctly, the F-15 is close to the same age, as the F-14, but it's still in use. A solid platform as well. But the upkeep (financially) is far less, compared to the F-14.

  • @andersonklein3587
    @andersonklein3587 Год назад +51

    The Tomcat is especially impressive when you consider that it was made back in the day to replace the F-4/F-5 and would have flown in its heyday against Mig-21/Mig-23... Even when matched against Mig-25 and other concurrent planes it was still shockingly good. The fact it can hold a candle to modern planes is a testament to how solidly a 4th gen fighter it really was. Though, to be fair, it did cost about the same as an F-22 adjusted for inflation.

    • @easetheweeb
      @easetheweeb Год назад +2

      the mig25 isnt all that great, it's a bigger fatter f-15

    • @andersonklein3587
      @andersonklein3587 Год назад +7

      @@easetheweeb that's partially because while both were interceptors on paper, the F-14 was a true early 4th gen multirole. Whereas the Mig 25 seems to really have been taylor made to intercept bombers and do BVR fights. Something that only really matured with the Mig 31.

    • @Subhumanoid_
      @Subhumanoid_ Год назад

      How come they don't have F-22s if they could afford so many F-14s back in the day?

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker Год назад +3

      @@easetheweeb Mig 25 was a own class. Wasn't able to do any dogfight but was and stil is fastest fighter plane doing 3+ mach.

    • @rearspeaker6364
      @rearspeaker6364 Год назад +6

      @@burnedbacon3989 mig-25 was made to intercept the SR-71, that's why the 3.2 mach spec exists.

  • @Krecikdwamiljony
    @Krecikdwamiljony Год назад +30

    I love how in the first round you kept talking, calmly, about advantages of splitting throttle while casually killing the bandit

  • @wheelbasemedia5814
    @wheelbasemedia5814 Год назад +5

    In an F-14, with the F-18 on your 6, start a high-G uphill barber pole. The F-18 can't turn inside the F-14 AND climb (B more so than A). Use the thrust to weight. The fight will go until the F-18 runs out of energy, then just drop on top of the F-18 when he ditches out to regain air speed.

  • @anrikurisuto4432
    @anrikurisuto4432 Год назад +105

    Videos like this make me wonder whether ST-21 might be more than just a dream after all. Imagine a Tomcat with all the modern upgrades, including stealth, vector thrust, better engines, LERX and a modern board computer that can accurately control Split throttle, next to all that other fun stuff. At that point we have a nice 6th gen. ...They might even reimagine the canopy for better visibility.

    • @Silversmok3
      @Silversmok3 Год назад +41

      ST-21 would be a badass airplane. But the Super Hornet was the smarter decision. The Navy needed replacements for the A-6, F/A-18 legacy Hornet, the KS-3 tanker, and the E/A-6B Prowler. The Tomcat 21 couldn’t do all of those missions & would cost as much as a USAF F-22. The Super Hornet does, and while not as glamorous it’s cheaper and it’s effective. If the Tomcat is a Ferrari, the Super Hornet is the work truck. It won’t impress the neighbors, but you can’t tow a camper with a Ferrari.

    • @Daytonaman675
      @Daytonaman675 Год назад +3

      I think this would be a fantastic plan.

    • @jennyarriola324
      @jennyarriola324 Год назад +18

      @@Silversmok3 and now the US Navy does NOT have an air superiority fighter against Chinese and Russian jets.

    • @Silversmok3
      @Silversmok3 Год назад +12

      @@jennyarriola324 The E/A-18G is better than anything Russia and China have, and yes I’m aware of the ECM J-16 variant.

    • @Stinger522
      @Stinger522 Год назад +3

      @@jennyarriola324 The Super Hornet can carry the AIM-120D.

  • @Dan-xo9ly
    @Dan-xo9ly Год назад +3

    Lots of airliner pilots use differential thrust during crosswind landings as well! Not as exciting but a practical application.

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker Год назад +1

      Ok, but one can't compare planes with engines under wings to fighter plane. It's like comparing a truck to F1 race car.

  • @Haya-OhWaves
    @Haya-OhWaves Год назад +12

    Ok, now we need a TOP GUN 3 to uncover more Tomcat secrets ! Come on ! 🤗😉

  • @veleriphon
    @veleriphon Год назад +9

    The Super Tomcat would have been absolutely terrifying, let alone a lighter variant for the USAF.

  • @Stinger522
    @Stinger522 Год назад +11

    Grizzly's flying had me screaming at the screen.
    He flew out in front of your nose which got him gunned and then he snatched defeat out of the jaws of victory by ramming you after getting the gun kill. He lost because he kept screwing up too much.

    • @garyhendershot9153
      @garyhendershot9153 Год назад +4

      To be fair, I think he actually hit a piece that was coming off the aircraft... not the bulk of the plane... Sometimes sh*t happens.

  • @cykeok3525
    @cykeok3525 Год назад +13

    If the DCS flight model is accurate, this goes some way to lending credence to the interesting reports/rumors that the Iranian F-14 aces used differential thrust in dogfights against Iraqi MiG-21s and Mirages.

  • @ogxbox
    @ogxbox Год назад +4

    The most impressive thing was you went from a saving yourself from a compressor stall to killing the hornet in like 3 seconds.

  • @muhammadisdeadjesusisrisen4216
    @muhammadisdeadjesusisrisen4216 Год назад +2

    That f-14 can do some amazing things given the right pilot and some luck

  • @GT4viper
    @GT4viper Год назад +3

    I think part of the Tomcats advantage is it’s range of engagement options compared to other aircraft. Against an F18 you know the pilot wants a one circle, Against a F16 it’s gonna want your tail, but the Tomcat has a deep bag of tricks with the right pilot so your stuck reacting to the f14 instead of planning it ahead like Sidewinder did the last two kills.

  • @MrJay_White
    @MrJay_White Год назад +29

    f14 with a flight control system to keep it from spinning out would have been impressive.

    • @charlesfollette9692
      @charlesfollette9692 Год назад +12

      I think the f14d was really resistant to stalls and flat spins

    • @duanemcdaniel9642
      @duanemcdaniel9642 Год назад

      That would have been later models... that tricky Dick... Chumly killed. 🤬

    • @manuairborne
      @manuairborne Год назад +7

      All Tomcats were retrofitted with a DFCS late 90's.

    • @vfrmaverick
      @vfrmaverick Год назад +6

      yes and no, it would force the plane to stay in its box. Which flying outside the box is what lets the tomcat be the surgeons scalpel it is

    • @MrJay_White
      @MrJay_White Год назад +2

      @@vfrmaverick well, i was implying a system to let it lean on the edge of that box rather than keep it quite so sanitised.

  • @williamsjm100
    @williamsjm100 Год назад +41

    So I love this, you are clearly teasing us as we all want to see… differential thrust against the SU57 !!!!!! Great video as always.

    • @danrazART
      @danrazART Год назад +2

      Yes please!

    • @Tabaskospecial
      @Tabaskospecial Год назад +4

      Unfortunately that might be too much for the F14 but perhaps GS could pull it off

  • @roysimpson6625
    @roysimpson6625 Год назад +4

    Now you have to revisit all those epic fights with the f14B looks like the Tom cat has one more trick up her sleeve 🤔

  • @salutarydreams520
    @salutarydreams520 Год назад +61

    Hey man. Now that you showed us how differential thrust can affect the F-14, it would be interesting to see how other aircraft like F-15, SU-27, etc. responds to differential thrust. Anyways, really enjoyed your video!

    • @miletello1
      @miletello1 Год назад +21

      Not sure it would be as effective on an F15 due to the engines being mounted so close together....the Tomcat engines have a much bigger gap between them and can apply greater yaw forces onto the airframe and really push the nose around.

    • @52down
      @52down Год назад +9

      @@miletello1 but Felon and Flankers are different story

    • @miletello1
      @miletello1 Год назад +3

      @@52down right....especially the Felon.

    • @karjalasta
      @karjalasta Год назад +5

      I wanna see this experiment, specially on the F-16 and the Mirage :D

    • @karjalasta
      @karjalasta Год назад +3

      @@nukewurld You ruined it bro :(

  • @LuisMolero7
    @LuisMolero7 Год назад +11

    This is truly incredible in all my years I never imagined that this existed in the F-14, after seeing TopGun I was amazed at this maneuver and was more intrigued to know what more is capable of doing that wonderful aircraft, now just imagine what the F-22 can be able to achieve, since we really do not know for the most part its secrets, if so many years have passed to see that maneuverability of the f-14, just imagine that it will hide the F-22 or other similar aircraft. Simply beautiful

  • @bastadimasta
    @bastadimasta Год назад +148

    Tom Cruise is always right. The US Navy gave F-14 the nickname TomCat because TOMCuiseAllwaysTrue.
    Three years before Top Gun, Tom Mapother invented an anti ship CRUISE missile for the US NAVY in just 5 months. He wanted to call it Hawk Cruise Missile, but the Navy officials changed it TOMahawk CRUISE missile to show their respects to him. In return, Tom changed his name to Tom Cruise.

    • @mortenBP
      @mortenBP Год назад +12

      Hahahaha. Good one, even as Tom Cruise was about 4 when the Tomcat prototype flew.

    • @Haya-OhWaves
      @Haya-OhWaves Год назад

      🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣❤️👍

    • @TonerLow
      @TonerLow Год назад

      @@nukewurld he is just dropping some facts into this sea of aspergers.

    • @lilsmoot4488
      @lilsmoot4488 Год назад +3

      Good one. I'll have to use that sometime.

    • @DefenceDatabase
      @DefenceDatabase Год назад +4

      Also, the cruise missiles like Tomahawk were invented by Tom Cruise.

  • @Agent-Strawman
    @Agent-Strawman Год назад +12

    While I love the 15, 16, and 18, there's just something special about the F-14.

  • @connie.shearer5210
    @connie.shearer5210 Год назад +2

    Welcome to Fighter Weapons School. Today's lesson Differential Thrust in the F-14A. Not quite super-maneuverable, but definitely an asset. We're learning something new every episode. Great channel!!! Still love your running explanations!

  • @xanderguldie
    @xanderguldie Год назад +1

    The guy that thought up the scene apparently knew what he was doing

  • @iivin4233
    @iivin4233 Год назад +2

    It'd be cool to see some videos that show where DCS misrepresents the capabilities of certain planes.

  • @lilsmoot4488
    @lilsmoot4488 Год назад +12

    Very cool to see such a big aircraft make turns tighter than I thought it could. Good video.

  • @misteralex01
    @misteralex01 Год назад +35

    Do the F-14 with differential thrust against the F-22! That would be an interesting fight to see.

    • @Warmaker01
      @Warmaker01 Год назад +7

      I see you, Kirk. Can you see me?

    • @shsfootball7478
      @shsfootball7478 Год назад +2

      @@Warmaker01 Warrior to warrior

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker Год назад +3

      There is other video F22 vs Spitfire where F22 was better in one circle. Sorry but F14 can't beat that.

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker Год назад

      Nevertheless I think Spitfire flight model must be messed up if was beaten by F22. Otherwise it was pilot, not a plane factor.

    • @rearspeaker6364
      @rearspeaker6364 Год назад +2

      @@303Pinker a F-22 is completely different beast, made to remove all planes in existance.

  • @a.k.7840
    @a.k.7840 Год назад +4

    Absolutely beautiful the way you rolled over the top to take his six in round 3 @7:30 !

  • @joshmelo1669
    @joshmelo1669 Год назад +2

    Old tech can still work its just how you use it and @Growling Sidewinder shows what an aircraft can be capable of. Doesn't mean it will win everytime just the understanding of the aircraft and pilot mistakes.

  • @PabloContrerasFotoviajante
    @PabloContrerasFotoviajante Год назад +1

    roound 2 I was expecting a knife fight from the survivos pilots in ground hahaha

  • @mortenBP
    @mortenBP Год назад +53

    Now I am most curious about who in Cruises team came up with this reverse thrust idea.
    And also, is this a trick known to old experienced F14 pilots?

    • @gaurlglmistrz
      @gaurlglmistrz Год назад +28

      It's not a reverse thrrust! There are thrust reversers on airliners, even some fighers, I think Viggen got it. But don'tmistake the two :)

    • @brandonclark435
      @brandonclark435 Год назад +1

      It is a trick those pilots know about. Don't remember if it was a video or an article but an old famous Tomcat driver talked about it.

    • @mortenBP
      @mortenBP Год назад +1

      @@gaurlglmistrz
      Whatever dude. you know perfectly well what I meant.

    • @pagman798
      @pagman798 Год назад +1

      It was an airline pilot who came with that idea but the whole crew just ignored him.

    • @mortenBP
      @mortenBP Год назад +1

      @@pagman798
      But that detail you came with there made me think of that incident in the late 80ies or early 90ies on a domestic flight of USA where a three engined airliner experienced a massive failure in the hydraulic system after the rudder engine exploded and they could only control the aircraft using the engine thrust from the remaining two under the wings. They actually managed to land the plane like this, though unfortunately a gust of wind flipped the aircraft over during landing and it crashed. But against all odds many still survived.

  • @SpectreDusk
    @SpectreDusk Год назад +1

    I always love watching the F-14 dogfights the most because you can really feel the effort that has to go into keeping it in check. And when you get it, it really pays off. Great vid GS!

  • @discombubulate2256
    @discombubulate2256 Год назад +4

    very impressive video.
    i've owned dcs for a while and i've always been amazed that people can start the planes let alone fly them.
    i usually just sit on the runway for a while then uninstall it.

    • @guillefranco31
      @guillefranco31 Год назад

      That's hilarious 😂, is it really that hard to play?

  • @LimoMcG
    @LimoMcG Год назад +4

    Loving seeing the 14 come out on top in these fights. Circumstantial, but it is my fav jet after all 😃

  • @pinoymetal420
    @pinoymetal420 Год назад

    that classic old school boom and zoom in round 3 was Golden!

  • @heyidiot
    @heyidiot Год назад +4

    5:33 F-14 split its throttles, F-18 swept its wing.

  • @Vanessaira-Retro
    @Vanessaira-Retro Год назад +2

    You had serious fun with this one GS. I can hear it in your voice and tone. You seem genuinely amused.

  • @rangerrick8220
    @rangerrick8220 Год назад +1

    Round 2 - "You want some of me?!!! There, have some!!" And takes your wing to the face... to the ground... (DOH!)

  • @ThePretender1
    @ThePretender1 Год назад +1

    Last video there was some veteran comments about split throttle being a reality. very nice video, your flying was great and surprised me also!

  • @brandons9398
    @brandons9398 Год назад +6

    Awesome flying skills GS! Your vids are always stimulating to watch!

  • @fademusic1980
    @fademusic1980 Год назад +1

    GOD DAMN DUDE. That first kill was the shit that makes a _real_ fighter pilot

  • @spicysausage8805
    @spicysausage8805 Год назад +1

    Awesome vid, thank you sir! Imagine the other pilot seeing the split-thruster manuever and going "WTF was that?!" like the movie XD

  • @AP-te6mk
    @AP-te6mk Год назад +1

    Glad to see you got this to work. If I ever have the opportunity to speak to my friends pops (the F-14 pilot I was referring to in another video) I'll ask him about his wing degree sweep tricks. He had different manual settings he used based on what he was doing in the aircraft, or if he wanted to trick an adversary into thinking he was slow. Anyway, great video man!

  • @bobbob4479
    @bobbob4479 Год назад +34

    Just curious but what if you could try and use differential thrust on other 2 engine fighters? Really enjoyed it.

    • @timrogers2638
      @timrogers2638 Год назад +8

      I was thinking the same. I wonder if the effectiveness is directly related to the distance between the long axis of each engine.

    • @almac03
      @almac03 Год назад

      mybad i asked the same question

    • @Akumasama
      @Akumasama Год назад +16

      P-38 secret final boss

    • @givemeanameman1
      @givemeanameman1 Год назад +17

      @@timrogers2638 it is, the more off central axis an engine is the more differential thrusts effects.
      Its a leaver.
      “Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. ” - Archimedes

    • @Austin-cn8vh
      @Austin-cn8vh Год назад +2

      You could. Though as noted in other replies. Might not be as good in some planes. Though I do use it in the F-5E to make tight radius turns on the ground. It actually works quite well for that.

  • @jasonbw3581
    @jasonbw3581 Год назад

    I'm always there to the end with these round-after-round fights. Thanks for the extra content.

  • @lancer737
    @lancer737 Год назад +7

    Now you gotta do F-14 vs SU57 once you master this technique XD. I loved your previous videos, I just felt like you were very unlucky because I see people in DCS PvP with F-14 beat SU57 1 on 1 or team vs team.

  • @samanazimi5087
    @samanazimi5087 Год назад +21

    f22 bandits unknown (2 bandits)

    • @mjtpaiq3998
      @mjtpaiq3998 Год назад

      Nah the f12 need something more harder. This aircraft basically a monster

    • @Mako2-1
      @Mako2-1 Год назад

      YES!! And another vid with the F-35, J-20 , and Su-57!

  • @TheRobeRanger
    @TheRobeRanger Год назад +4

    Don't know if this has already been said, but after you master the split throttle in the A model, you need to have a rematch with the SU-57.

  • @elbryan9
    @elbryan9 Год назад +27

    So my question is, will this split throttle maneuver actually help against a SU-57 like it seemed to in the movie?

    • @TheGoddamnBacon
      @TheGoddamnBacon Год назад +23

      My guess is he's building up to that, just using it in fights with aggressors in fights they normally are superior in.

    • @GENERALEVILANGEL
      @GENERALEVILANGEL Год назад

      watch yesterday's video

    • @qararmwibowo660
      @qararmwibowo660 Год назад +1

      he already tried in previous video

    • @elbryan9
      @elbryan9 Год назад

      @@GENERALEVILANGEL I did. That was against an F-15, not a SU-57.

    • @elbryan9
      @elbryan9 Год назад +2

      @@qararmwibowo660 Which previous video? The last video was against an F-15 which has nowhere near the same maneuvering capability as the SU-57.

  • @MrDozerdee
    @MrDozerdee Год назад +3

    That was incredible. Can't wait for you guys to start employing this tactic

  • @bigblue6917
    @bigblue6917 Год назад +9

    A great manoeuvre but I can see why it is only used by the experienced pilots.

  • @IRUKANJI
    @IRUKANJI Год назад +11

    Okay this one was crazy. Now I wanna see this tactic in the B model vs the F-15.

    • @2ZZGE100
      @2ZZGE100 Год назад +6

      He already made a video on exactly that

    • @bigblue6917
      @bigblue6917 Год назад

      I'm good with crazy

    • @IRUKANJI
      @IRUKANJI Год назад

      @@2ZZGE100 oh boy oh boy. Round two but no compressor stalls let's get some

    • @2ZZGE100
      @2ZZGE100 Год назад +1

      @@IRUKANJI Yep. He had one in this F-14A video, but he still managed to win 2 out without a compressor stall.

    • @IRUKANJI
      @IRUKANJI Год назад

      @@2ZZGE100 Yeah but the extra thrust and forgiveness of the GE F110 could really push this technique beyond. This might drive the F-14 to the point that nothing outside of Gen 5 or high off boresight luck shots can beat it.

  • @brandonsimunac
    @brandonsimunac Год назад +2

    Wasn't going vertical one of the tactics taught by Top Gun for the F-4 and F-14? Using those plane's insane thrust for good. Think they called it The Egg. That in combination with the split thrust really gives the old girl a few new tricks.

  • @MAB-nj8wf
    @MAB-nj8wf Год назад +3

    Or let's do an Iron Eagle simulation...
    A single F-16B against four MiG-23's...

  • @0xygenMoron
    @0xygenMoron Год назад +1

    those tight one-circle fights are always fun to watch

  • @xJAWAx
    @xJAWAx Год назад +2

    I would love to hear about a real account of splitting the throttle. It was so cool when maverick did it.

  • @sevrent2811
    @sevrent2811 Год назад +2

    I mean it kinda makes sense. because of how far the engines are separated on the F-14, they're off center with the center of mass. So one engine in AB while the other isn't imparts a torque on the plane to move left or right. This also means that the flankers/Felon can also do this because their engines are also off center.

  • @Fox3-Luck
    @Fox3-Luck Год назад +3

    it takes balls to fly the A model like that

  • @tkelker
    @tkelker Год назад +1

    That's a lot of push-ups for the Hornet

  • @StunnafulPhotography
    @StunnafulPhotography Год назад +2

    Imagine the F14 with installed high tech weapons and lighter materials to make it go faster. The F14 Tomcat is underrated in my opinion. Such a well made dope airplane!

    • @303Pinker
      @303Pinker Год назад

      There was a proposal of such upgraded super tomcat but was refused.

  • @PassportBrosBusinessClass
    @PassportBrosBusinessClass Год назад

    And this is the reason I’m glad I got the Saitek X56.
    I know a lot of people have the HOTAS Warthog, but I love the X56’s universality for DCS World.

  • @nwanzer
    @nwanzer Год назад +1

    Differential thrust in the F14 seems to be the clue they used to create the 5th Gen fighters. They created a plane that capitalized on the maneuverability tricks of all the previous fighters.

  • @bebebutterbub1344
    @bebebutterbub1344 Год назад

    That was amazing! I usually donty enjoy Hollywood movies, even though I use to binge movies for my work, but TopGun 1-2 was superb, I loved those films.

  • @tertiaryobjective
    @tertiaryobjective Год назад

    This is one of the coolest dogfights I've seen!

  • @jasoncrawford4929
    @jasoncrawford4929 Год назад +3

    People thinking you're practicing differential thrust to face the Su-57 when you're actually preparing for the boss fight that is the i16

  • @wilson4328
    @wilson4328 Год назад

    When I first started watching this channel, I had no idea I would be belly laughing so much! Thanks!

  • @birbeyboop
    @birbeyboop Год назад

    I absolutely love the detail of having maverick's helmet

  • @Pilot597
    @Pilot597 Год назад

    So nice to confirm that the old lady still had a card up her sleeve despite being a 1970’s platform.

  • @Mr_Fission
    @Mr_Fission Год назад

    Love the offensive compressor stall into gun kill.

  • @jeffclarke1694
    @jeffclarke1694 Год назад

    the tomcat is the grandpa that smirks while he beats you at cards even still.

  • @debbiestimac5175
    @debbiestimac5175 Год назад +8

    Love! Love! Love! Seeing you take snap gun shots like that. Besides you lose weight on the jet when you expend rounds in short bursts like that. It's a win-win situation! 😁

  • @MartinSheckelstorm
    @MartinSheckelstorm Год назад +1

    The Ghost of Goose " I don't know about this Mav "

  • @jp-st2sl
    @jp-st2sl 11 месяцев назад

    I love the f 14 maybe it's just nostalgia but I always saw it as the boss of the air where dreams seemed possible such an amazing aviation breakthrough

  • @mellomidareymart3826
    @mellomidareymart3826 Год назад +1

    You should use differential thrust in the hornet with the su 57 as the enemy. Just like the top gun.

  • @truthseeker9454
    @truthseeker9454 Год назад

    2:13 - Did he flare instead of bailing out? That's hardcore, going down with the ship! :^D

  • @Spectre-907
    @Spectre-907 Год назад

    Has to pull chute by round 2. Between round1’s “how many times can I openly fly across the tomcat’s nose” and turning a perfect kill into fox4 trade, the hornet pilot is almost actively throwing these fights.

  • @mikedebell2242
    @mikedebell2242 Год назад +1

    I never knew about this but sitting in the cockpit I noticed that there was a lock on the throttles that would keep them together which could be disengaged. Hope they topped you off with hydraulic fluid.

  • @johngregory4801
    @johngregory4801 Год назад

    Good to see that Mav's still able to to some of that pilot sh*t.

  • @gregiep
    @gregiep Год назад +2

    Pretty sure round 2 qualifies as a guns kill for the Hornet and an maneuvering kill for the Tomcat.

  • @abbaerfani9007
    @abbaerfani9007 Год назад +1

    Great job by GS I know one of Iranian F14 pailot used this when he was against 3 Mirag F1 and it worked

  • @Air-Striegler
    @Air-Striegler Год назад

    Delicious. What a joy to watch and behold! Very well done, GS!

  • @jerobaal2.0
    @jerobaal2.0 Год назад +1

    5:34 in this engagement I learned from maverick that you can use guns, misiles or even the plane to splash a bandit 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

  • @CGPT76
    @CGPT76 Год назад +1

    My count was 4-1! I love watching you guys fly. I just bought the game because of watching your videos, now I just have to learn to fly at 46!! What have I done!👍

    • @bandrea610
      @bandrea610 Год назад

      The 20 dollar f15c is a great starting module for dcs

  • @hamidselectronics4863
    @hamidselectronics4863 Год назад

    The result of watching your videos so much:
    I saw JF-17, F-35, J-10C, and Su-30 MKI in combat in my dream last night. Su-30 was shot down by JF-17 with SD-10.

  • @samuelttvbtw
    @samuelttvbtw Год назад

    ‘Very seasoned pilot’ GS basically saying himself considering how good he is when he used the differential thrust

  • @Lifelite
    @Lifelite Год назад

    You know you have to fight a Felon again with this technique.
    I don't think the result will change but your first one was hilarious and I want more 🤣

  • @hanzusmc7898
    @hanzusmc7898 Год назад +1

    Nice TYVM! Didn’t think the TF30 would do that well, especially only 1 compressor stall.

  • @Ro_Ball
    @Ro_Ball Год назад

    Awesome video. The dogfights were awesome and quite adrenaline inducing.

  • @camjam344
    @camjam344 Год назад

    GS + Longshot= best youtuber duo

  • @johnathonmullis4234
    @johnathonmullis4234 Год назад

    The navy, Grumman and nasa tested differential thrust on the tomcat back in the 1970’s. It was known then to aide significantly in air to air engagements. Outside the test community the older more experienced pilots might have used it but the newer guys hadn’t developed the requisite skills needed to use it safely. Of coarse the navy invested more in training the tomcat pilot/rio pairs than other aviators because of the complexity of the aircraft and missions it was to fly.

  • @davidpalmer4184
    @davidpalmer4184 Год назад

    Who would have thunk it! An action movie getting technical details right. Outstanding!

  • @tslay7928
    @tslay7928 Год назад

    You sir, are an excellent pilot.

  • @robertsantillan984
    @robertsantillan984 Год назад

    Amazing. Can't wait to get my system setup

  • @fyfoh
    @fyfoh Год назад +6

    Throttle splitting sounds like something that was kept a secret.