I just realized a missed opportunity. Zavala later on asks Ikora to help him learn how to use Stasis. You know what would have been awesome? Zavala using Diamond LANCE. :P
Ikora’s reunion with Cayde should have been in a cutscene. For the life of me I can’t understand why it wasn’t. Completely took away the emotional weight because it was in-game and I’m standing there holding a gun.
It reminded me at the red war where Cayde-6 said about having a hug but Zavala and Ikora didn't do that so I feel like they regretted not hugging him so they did now
My father saw this cutscene yesterday, and I recently started playing Destiny 2 with him, and I thought of him and Cayde talking when the cutscene ends: “So, I heard the Traveler brought your daughter back.” “Yes. And she’s a Hunter. And true to the name, she’s never afraid to take risks.” “Heh, I like her already. Hope to meet her sometime.”
Zavala made peace with his wife (well, the memory of her) back in Season of the Haunted, and his son looked up to him and what he could do as a lightbearer. His wife would not have wanted him to sacrifice everything in the universe for her. His son would not have wanted him to sacrifice everything in the universe for him. As much as he wants them back, he knows he can't. He knows it probably wouldn't actually be them. He knows they would be angry. He knows it would be betraying who he is as a person, and who those two loved with all their hearts.
Doesn’t matter if you hold onto those things or not. Sometimes things make their way back on their own. Look at this whole series: Sloane survived the Deep and made her way back. I never believed she was dead and held out hope for her. Asher is somewhere in the Vex network still helping. And Uldren came back as Crow to redeem himself. Heck, now Cayde got the chance to go out better than he did. He may have returned to the light this time, but he did it bringing back our Ghost. Should he have let that happen? Its like Strand
I appreciate Cayde having the emotional maturity to realize he's physically blocking his friends from the healthy process of mourning and moving on. He did the right thing, in the end. The dead should stay dead, for the sake of the living.
Well said. But why is it better to move on rather then to reunite with a loved one? The opportunity in real life would never happen, sure, but, in destiny it happened and I was very thankful to have him back. The only part that hurt was losing him all over again and having to mourne his loss a second time. It was all really well done....I just don't get why he couldn't stay alive.
@@cbenjamin9220Because he wanted to return to the light with Sundance and he did it on his terms. No one elses. Couldnt be more Cayde than that. He fulfilled his purpose
@@bruiseleeroy7010 yes, I understand this. I'm talking about the writers decisions. My point is cayde could have come back for good until the end of the story
@@cbenjamin9220 It is hard to justify having him back permanently as you would undercut the impact of Forsaken. The writers could have easily found a place for Cayde again, but staying true to his character they decided to have him make his own fate
I love how it took Cayde a few sitdowns and a couple missions with his own killer for him to not only respect Crow, but like him, and even kind of mentor him. However, other Guardians(outside of us)? Took em years. Dunno what that says.
In Lore, Cayde and Crow spent some time together before we got there and it wasnt easy for Cayde who had to remind himself that Crow is a different person
Taking away the seriousness. Cayde: so. Whats this about you being engaged to a cabal queen? Zevala: you told him? Guardian: we really wanted to tell you. Cue cayde laughing his ass off until he short circuits 🤣🤣🤣
When he's somber and low toned, he almost sounds like Lance. I teared up a few times when i'd hear him speak. Overall i give him a 10/10 performance. He's giving more of an Admiral Anderson (Mass Effect) performance rather than an Arbiter (Halo) performance. And that is the perfect tone for him.
Honestly, this could lead to a great dynamic between Zavala and Cayde. Both of them have a lot in common and it would be interesting to watch two characters who were once so different find such emotional common ground. I also love how content that hug was. EDIT: Nope. I gave Bungie too much credit. They revived him as a publicity stunt and then killed him off again. Though I have to admit, it's kinda sad that Cayde WANTS to be dead.
it wasn't all for nothing, it gave all the characters just a bit more closure. The way Cayde had described the after life, I don't blame him for having issues with being back or wanting to be on the other side as soon as the fight was over.
While there is a lot that they could have done(and only much time, money, and room in the game for so much) I do believe that Cayde returning to the light was the right and best choice Cayde died a death that was foolish and reckless. This time he choose to go back in his own way. And by reviving Ghost it was a much more heroic sacrifice Plus throughout the campaign he didnt want to be back. He misses Sundance and the afterlife. He felt he was called back for a certain purpose and had fun while doing it. Cayde couldnt have asked for a better return than that, as well as making amends with his killer and even passing the mantle on to him as Vanguard...it is subtle like the music. Serene. He kept the rest of the vanguard's spirits up and was even the wise one. When he is usually the goofball. Bungie did it right, even if we dont agree with the outcome
I have played destiny since beta of d1. I found this cutscene to be the most moving thing I've ever seen in a game, and I've played most Final Fantasies. I was completely blown away by this. Great job bungie and all involved ❤ I just wish the commander could have voiced it....😢 Maybe AI can re do it in his voice? No disrespect to the new voice actor he does a grand job too 👍🏼
Was this all just in case you miss season of the haunted? cause this was all old shit to me and didn't leave me feeling much that I hadn't already felt before.
they want us SO HARD to cry for holloway, but I never ever cared for the character. I don't doubt she had her place in the story, some time ago, possibly during destiny 1 ? but as far as I'm concerned, good riddance.
Nah, during destiny one all she did was apply caydes stealth drive to eris's ship, thats about it, i didnt feel anything either and I've been a 10 year fan
Being an Exo is more than being a robot, Its a human conciseness inside an Exo frame. Either by force, debt, or money but it was an experiment to extend human life, although the first generation went insane from lack of basic sense. And current Exos need thier memory reset every so often. If it could be undone, the Ghost would resurrect humans instead of exos. But since a human conciseness is resting comfortably inside the Exo frame it probably feels like there is nothing unnatural about it, and just brings back the Exo
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“Hey buddy we’re having a moment here can you turn your neon strobe lights off for one fucking minute”
Lmfaoooooooo
"It for Appearance."
Bro looking like a Neon Nerd
i'm reading it with cayde voice
So that's who Imaru keeps calling "Neon nerd"
Keith David is doing a great job. He may not be Lance Reddick, but he IS Zavala
I wish it was Kevin Michael Richardson but David is amazing.
it feels like Zavala is in a bad time and place right now and it sounds great as Keith David
I just realized a missed opportunity. Zavala later on asks Ikora to help him learn how to use Stasis. You know what would have been awesome? Zavala using Diamond LANCE. :P
No
It actually took me quite a bit to remember that it was a different person behind the voice. It's THAT good!
Lance was stoic and calm, but right now we need a desperate and broken zavala, and keith nailed it
All of this gritty, somber, emotional seriousness... And then there's us, in all our glowing neon sparkly bullshit, sitting in the background!
Destiny no longer has an aesthetic, because the players eat this shit up.
if you're slaying gods you need to look good
Very nice to see Buck and Arbiter sharing a hug ^_^
I just realised... Im having a headache...
Imagine being hugged by your brother in arms and then you hear WORT WORT WORT
rest in peace Reddick. now Keith is taking up the mantle of commander Zavala
"I know. I loved them too." Know who in here's cutting up onions :(
Ikora’s reunion with Cayde should have been in a cutscene. For the life of me I can’t understand why it wasn’t. Completely took away the emotional weight because it was in-game and I’m standing there holding a gun.
Felt the same way. My mind immediately went back to Ikora losing her mind after caydes deathx
@@BRZno86that was the point dumbass she was mad he left and got himself killed i agree it should have been in a cutscene but its still good
Who else is watching this cause Day 1 server kicked them off?
Here here
Me!
Mee
Yep.
I'm watching it because I can't afford the expansion right now
Not gonna lie, when I first watched this I thought Zavala was gonna either hug cayde or deck him in his jaw
I thought he would do both
@@-tiofer-8943 the Titan way to hug.
@@-tiofer-8943same
It reminded me at the red war where Cayde-6 said about having a hug but Zavala and Ikora didn't do that so I feel like they regretted not hugging him so they did now
I missed this because of the server glitches. I'm so happy to see he actually hugged him ;-;
Dude everyone is all dark and gloomy and your guardian is just sitting down being a purple glowstick 😂
My father saw this cutscene yesterday, and I recently started playing Destiny 2 with him, and I thought of him and Cayde talking when the cutscene ends:
“So, I heard the Traveler brought your daughter back.”
“Yes. And she’s a Hunter. And true to the name, she’s never afraid to take risks.”
“Heh, I like her already. Hope to meet her sometime.”
Haha def something Cayde would say
I’m so glad they got Keith David doing Savala‘s voice rest in peace Lance Reddick may the traveler look after you🙌🙏
Whoever they fired from last season that we got this God-tier level storytelling and direction- good job, Bungo.
Good job.
I love how his ghost said "I know.. I loved them too" and you can see his shell move and he looked kind of sad :c
Zavala made peace with his wife (well, the memory of her) back in Season of the Haunted, and his son looked up to him and what he could do as a lightbearer.
His wife would not have wanted him to sacrifice everything in the universe for her. His son would not have wanted him to sacrifice everything in the universe for him.
As much as he wants them back, he knows he can't. He knows it probably wouldn't actually be them. He knows they would be angry. He knows it would be betraying who he is as a person, and who those two loved with all their hearts.
The music in this expansion is fucking beautiful.
Yes Im glad someone else recognizes
Cayde’s right. We can’t hold on to things forever. We have to let go and move on forward.
Doesn’t matter if you hold onto those things or not. Sometimes things make their way back on their own. Look at this whole series: Sloane survived the Deep and made her way back. I never believed she was dead and held out hope for her. Asher is somewhere in the Vex network still helping. And Uldren came back as Crow to redeem himself. Heck, now Cayde got the chance to go out better than he did. He may have returned to the light this time, but he did it bringing back our Ghost. Should he have let that happen? Its like Strand
@@JDog2656 it would be cool if he became our ghost
I appreciate Cayde having the emotional maturity to realize he's physically blocking his friends from the healthy process of mourning and moving on. He did the right thing, in the end. The dead should stay dead, for the sake of the living.
Well said. But why is it better to move on rather then to reunite with a loved one? The opportunity in real life would never happen, sure, but, in destiny it happened and I was very thankful to have him back. The only part that hurt was losing him all over again and having to mourne his loss a second time. It was all really well done....I just don't get why he couldn't stay alive.
@@cbenjamin9220Because he wanted to return to the light with Sundance and he did it on his terms. No one elses. Couldnt be more Cayde than that. He fulfilled his purpose
@@bruiseleeroy7010 yes, I understand this. I'm talking about the writers decisions. My point is cayde could have come back for good until the end of the story
@@cbenjamin9220 It is hard to justify having him back permanently as you would undercut the impact of Forsaken. The writers could have easily found a place for Cayde again, but staying true to his character they decided to have him make his own fate
@@bruiseleeroy7010yes, but don't you think that was already impacted when he came back? Just sayin
I love how it took Cayde a few sitdowns and a couple missions with his own killer for him to not only respect Crow, but like him, and even kind of mentor him. However, other Guardians(outside of us)? Took em years. Dunno what that says.
In Lore, Cayde and Crow spent some time together before we got there and it wasnt easy for Cayde who had to remind himself that Crow is a different person
you should read the lore from the still hunt sniper, has some pretty good story involving cayde and crow
@@bruiseleeroy7010 Cayde had the decency not to kill him unlike certain guardians in lore though :/
So heartwarming to see, it's unfortunate that Ikora didn't get cutscene of her reuniting with Cayde.
Taking away the seriousness.
Cayde: so. Whats this about you being engaged to a cabal queen?
Zevala: you told him?
Guardian: we really wanted to tell you.
Cue cayde laughing his ass off until he short circuits 🤣🤣🤣
The player character blinking bright purple is hilarious.
I was vibing with the cutscene until your Neon lights broke it
I love how Zavala and Ikora have almost the almost the opposite reaction to seeing Cayde again.
Keith is a worthy successor to Lance, no better option
oh ok so I missed the whole fucking story getting kicked after every fucking mission.
Thanks, I got currant-ed before I got to see it myself
Same
Ughhhh bungie your hurting my heart
Keith David did a good job with Zavala at some parts while the rest of the time i only heard the president from Rick and Morty
When he's somber and low toned, he almost sounds like Lance. I teared up a few times when i'd hear him speak. Overall i give him a 10/10 performance. He's giving more of an Admiral Anderson (Mass Effect) performance rather than an Arbiter (Halo) performance. And that is the perfect tone for him.
Honestly, this could lead to a great dynamic between Zavala and Cayde. Both of them have a lot in common and it would be interesting to watch two characters who were once so different find such emotional common ground.
I also love how content that hug was.
EDIT: Nope. I gave Bungie too much credit. They revived him as a publicity stunt and then killed him off again. Though I have to admit, it's kinda sad that Cayde WANTS to be dead.
it wasn't all for nothing, it gave all the characters just a bit more closure. The way Cayde had described the after life, I don't blame him for having issues with being back or wanting to be on the other side as soon as the fight was over.
@@gavincampbell6741 We ultimately don't know what would happen if he stuck around, anyway. Could've been unraveled at any point.
While there is a lot that they could have done(and only much time, money, and room in the game for so much) I do believe that Cayde returning to the light was the right and best choice
Cayde died a death that was foolish and reckless. This time he choose to go back in his own way. And by reviving Ghost it was a much more heroic sacrifice
Plus throughout the campaign he didnt want to be back. He misses Sundance and the afterlife. He felt he was called back for a certain purpose and had fun while doing it. Cayde couldnt have asked for a better return than that, as well as making amends with his killer and even passing the mantle on to him as Vanguard...it is subtle like the music. Serene. He kept the rest of the vanguard's spirits up and was even the wise one. When he is usually the goofball. Bungie did it right, even if we dont agree with the outcome
Clyde's message was for the fans
I am here since 2014, best Destiny DLC ever.
In a weird but interesting way, that’s life in a nutshell
Makes one think, doesn’t it?
“I know, I loved them too”
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Keith David works perfect for Zavala makes him sound older now
I'm not crying, you're crying. . .
I didn't even know I missed the camp fire scene
Cayde playing the harmonica makes no faking sense. he is an exo no lungs no hair to blow into the harmonica. it just hilarious
He's cayde he can do whatever he wants
Exos are built to simulate the human experience so he might be able to blow air. I know he can eat and drink.
Exos have lungs. He can blow air
To add what @SatyrToon said, Exos are created to simulate a human body or else they go crazy and need to be rebooted
We have space wizards that can use superhuman powers but an Exo playing the harmonica is where we draw the line?
Now that, is a hug.
It sucks I'm to the final part of these questions and gave up...that fight with the Witness in the middle is just to much of a pain in the ars
You know, when I saw Zevala but heard Keith David talking, it actually hurt a little.
This DLC was Zavala at his lowest, unsure if that he can really trust the Traveler and his journey into acceptance
I did not get to see this cutscene while playing.
Eyes up, Spartan. Nice reference, Bungie.
This makes me happy to see them back again
I completely missed this cutscene because i was kicked off lol
This feels like a callback to the first campaign.
Keith David did an amazing job as Zavala. But all I can hear is a more solemn and emotional Spawn 😂
Bro I got kicked to orbit after the first cinematic and I missed the campfire scene. Very salty
"to many lights on the set!"
Tbh I wasn’t expecting this dlc to be emotional. Like I figured it was but not to this extent at all
Whats the soundtrack for the second part where Cayde tells us that life isnt about holding on forever?
im still trying to figure this out too
Watching this because I haven’t bought the dlc…
Crazy that I missed this entire cutscene due to Currant errors on launch day. I was able to finish the whole campaign and not see this :/
Same I'm salty af
I have played destiny since beta of d1. I found this cutscene to be the most moving thing I've ever seen in a game, and I've played most Final Fantasies. I was completely blown away by this.
Great job bungie and all involved ❤
I just wish the commander could have voiced it....😢
Maybe AI can re do it in his voice?
No disrespect to the new voice actor he does a grand job too 👍🏼
That's disrespectful to Mr. Reddick. Using Ai to steal his voice? What are you, Disney?
@@travisbishop782 nah its not...I miss him
@@underdogg87 we all miss him.
"Maybe AI can re do it in his voice?"
Did you not hear what Cayde said?? Bro.
Was this all just in case you miss season of the haunted? cause this was all old shit to me and didn't leave me feeling much that I hadn't already felt before.
Its a lil more different and nuanced lol
hate how i got robbed out of these by server disconnects
they want us SO HARD to cry for holloway, but I never ever cared for the character. I don't doubt she had her place in the story, some time ago, possibly during destiny 1 ? but as far as I'm concerned, good riddance.
Nah, during destiny one all she did was apply caydes stealth drive to eris's ship, thats about it, i didnt feel anything either and I've been a 10 year fan
Thanks here cause current
I'm here because an LFG decided to skip this beautiful cutscene.😒
So basically the Final Shape is the Infinite Tsukiyomi but darker?
GOLIATH KILLING IT
I hate them for killing Cayde, he brought life and humor to the game, there's a void in the game now, it feels empty.
He was brought back to life but he's still a robot?
Being an Exo is more than being a robot, Its a human conciseness inside an Exo frame. Either by force, debt, or money but it was an experiment to extend human life, although the first generation went insane from lack of basic sense. And current Exos need thier memory reset every so often. If it could be undone, the Ghost would resurrect humans instead of exos. But since a human conciseness is resting comfortably inside the Exo frame it probably feels like there is nothing unnatural about it, and just brings back the Exo
i never seen this
2:31
Does anyone know what song is playing when they're all sitting next to the fire ? I can't seem to find it 💔💔💔
I got kicked from this cutscene and I’m sad
It’s dumb to bring cayde back just to kill
Him off again Ugg so sad he gone for good
Am i the only one that thought zavala was gonna deck cayde?😂
Is this after saving Zavala? because I got kicked right at mission end.
Anyone know the ost name at 1:20?
it’s called guardian down, from the forsaken soundtrack
@@vibeman7484thank you sm
How can Cayde play a harmonica with no lungs? Do exos breathe?
Yes Bungie let this game go...
I need the soundtrack for this but cant find it
Guardian down from forsaken soundtrack
is that the arbiter?
What mission zavala to meet cayde6
Huh....Uhuh....yep, still don't care.
Jup