Rob... Absolutely fascinating! I am totally envious, and wish now, that I'd listened to what my chemistry teacher told me. (Rob's voice) - "Why mate? What did he tell you?" (My voice) - "I don't know! I didn't listen!"
. You are a good man for sharing this stuff with the world . I wish you nothing but the best and thank you for your work ! i cant wait for the next ten years to pass and watch this tech along with others transform the world .
It is easy to be thankful , but it's hard to change the world . I cant wait to see what else you come up with. I dont know if you answer questions but i have one . I am looking for a battery pack that puts out at least 72 v to run a DC motor 4500 rpm that i am using to convert a gas powered outboard power head to an electric system . The trouble is any battery pack i can find that is powerful enough to drive this motor for a day on the lake is very heavy and my boat is to small for that much weight . I need the battery system to be light enough output enough voltage to use the boat on the water for an entire day . Can you suggest a graphine option to try out for such a build? Either to buy or to build ? I see the fast charge ability in your videos and see the possibility of a self sustaining battery system that could charge it self while running . Maybe im wrong but it would be worth a try . If its to much to ask of you i understand
+jesusoftheapes There aren't that many options to buy mate - you could try LiPO but that would still be pretty heavy and expensive - which really only leaves you building one - I am not sure of your back ground - that might be a bit challenging - but if you want to give it a go - there are lots of ideas around - go through google scholar and see what you think
i can make anything if i have a sound idea to work with .,. i wonder if a magnet motor generator connected to a large version of a graphine battery could be something i could use to keep the graphine battery charged at all times?Since the time it takes to charge one is so much less then the discharge rate it sounds good in theory anyway. who knows? . this is my "free-ish" energy experiment project . if i actually figure how to build this it could be something special . Ill figure something out . Thanks for responding i hope to see your work out here in the real world soon enough
+jesusoftheapes cheers mate - i think the idea is the same basically as if you strap a motor to a dynamo - they would run each other in perpetuity if there was no work done - but there is - if you set up a system like that it might work until you tried to run some thing with it - but i have never built anything like that so i don't really know
Amazing! Watching that laser dim in the solution was exciting, and so were the subsequent experiments with those makeshift solar cells. Looking forward to seeing your progress on this if you make any - practical experimentation FTW!
This was absolutely delightful to watch. I know very little about physics or chemistry for that matter, but when I saw what your mistake had become I got as excited as I would have if I'd just discovered something to change the entire world. Thank you so much for your video. I might have actually learned something I never thought I had enough intelligence to understand lol
Robert Murray-Smith Ben Hogan was an American professional golfer -he's famous for saying "Golf is a game of luck, the more I practice, the luckier I get." Looks like all that practicing is paying off =)
@@ThinkingandTinkering Rob, you made a great discovery accident or not. You made note of it and gave it a voice for people like me years in the future to discover. Thank you!
Robert Murray-Smith Don't you just love serendipity! :) I suspect the oxalic acid acts as a reducing agent to form the ZnS nanoparticles, similar to the action citric acid has in making gold nanoparticles, but it may be only part of the process here. I am gonna give this a go! Judging by the way the nanoparticles stay in suspension, I would assume they are rather small. Fascinating!
Robert you should experiment to determine which wavelength of light spectrum produces the most output power and then use a cheap optical filter for that wavelength. Then you can work on producing a gel or solid of your zinc-sulfide solution because outside heat will dissipate the liquid. Your choice of aluminum and copper are good because simplicity and you can also let copper heat in sun and aluminum stay shielded from heat to produce a thermoelectric effect.
Fascinating! We didn't get to see the cell in darkness or a close-up of the construction. Placing the top layer over the aluminium looked rather haphazard, is it possible that you have an inificient battery cell, rather than a solar cell?
Is very powerful the positions awards with nano coathing and others systems like nano coathing into chamber without oxides gases and methane and first step make plástic to this grafene impossible very nano coathing coath or Smoller production and said i grafene paladium this electrocapacitors hidrogen walls, make compounds that When fusioned dont but i said tail with biorganics acids solutions like yet but Moré acids with hidrogen walls
This doesn't tell us how much power you're getting. Microamps is just one of two variables we need to figure out how much power we're dealing with here. How much voltage?
Incidentally I did make a similar error some months ago'!. Do you remember the IronSulphide for Thermocell? Really I mixed another substance with sulphur in the planetary ball mill (my wife get me the wrong label) and Thermocell did performing well. Form that starting point I checked other mixtures with that "substance" and I'm improving the Thermocell a lot. I like your "flexible cell" idea, and basically is possible to paint a 2D solar cell with an array of Cu-Al tape (but remember that exist also Mg tape!) like the "giant radiator", protect it with a overcoat and bond over skylights, sunscreen, windows, sails,railings and so on. Good work Robert. You are doing well..
Maby this could open the opertunerty for a kind of solarcell I got 35 years ago. Where you have a fluid inside a small fearaday cage so when the electrons are knock free they will go to the outside of the cage and thereby out of solution.
I think that most of the major discoveries in Science, have been mistakes! Watching this, I was as giddy as a school girl!! I was laughing out loud in excitement, as you were explaining your mistake!!! Great job Dude!!!!!
this is why we need more people doing this so the probability will be increased and the world. still have to have the knowledge to understand you have stumble on something though
Good lord Robert! I was afraid you had stumbled onto an idea I've been working on for 6 years! But you missed. Thank you!!!!!! heheh, but I'll be releasing open-source when I'm done with the idea soon.
Robert could you do a quick test? Shine the laser through the solution but put a piece of white paper on the back side of the test tube. Does the light on the paper grow brighter as the laser line in the solution grows dimmer or do both get dimmer at the same time? I ask this because I read about magnetic mirrors and I saw some similarities between what these researchers did and what you're doing. The paper is Magnetic Mirrors Enable New Technologies by Reflecting Light in Uncanny Ways. So if the light dims inside the solution and on the paper, the particles might be acting as a magnetic mirror and that would be very cool.
This "liquid" that contain nano ZnS could be use in a zinc/sulfur recirculating battery. Zinc anode and graphene cathode (doped with a catalyst). Could be useful for replenish the battery with a liquid anode.
I like the solar cell a lot. I've watched a couple of videos that you have done on at the new improved one and such. what if you took the two electrodes the copper strip and the aluminum stripped and made fingers across the face of the solar strip. Probably like wire size kind of like a mesh. This might give it more and quicker collection.
Just finished your solar cell playlist. More questions as normal. ;) I understand the principle of the diode, reminds me of the crystal radio cat whisker diode. What I'm confused about is the insulator in a diode is very thin, so the electrons can tunnel through but only in one direction because of the difference in work function. Which part is acting as the insulator in this cell? Why doesn't the graphene in the ink the short circuit things? I see it's working, but I just can't understand why!
Robert Murray-Smith I made one of those razor blade diodes for a crystal radio as a kid, I only ever managed to get it work once and never understood it at the time! This is a similar principle I think. That works because you heat the blade to create an oxide layer then you put a pencil tip on the surface, because the oxide layer acts as a semiconductor / insulator, electrons can tunnel through (or whatever explanation you choose) in one direction more easily, so rectifies the high frequency of radio signals fed through it. In practice, finding a spot on the blade with the right thickness and conductivity is difficult! But with this the two metals are far apart so how can this be acting as a diode?
Interesting , I observed something interesting with a stainless steel dog bowl, filled with water, and a piece of aluminum foil suspended in the water by means of a stick resting across the sides, to which was added a capful of cider vinegar. It produced in the milliamp range, since it was done outside on a cloudy day as a bit of a try out, to my astonishment as soon as the sun hit the experiment the rate of production increased tenfold. I assumed the light was dislodging electrons and pumping the circuit.
Sir, I have many lasers and often their beam will diminish that quickly until they warm up and maintain initial output or with week batteries. You've enlightened me once again in that it has a name, Tyndall test. I have used a green laser to do this very test on my wines noting their clearing progress. The most most amazing test comes from some Persimmon wine (a small burnt orange colored fruit). Although, to the naked eye, it appears perfectly clear but for the yellow tint. When illuminated by the green laser, Wow, what a show. Making wines, kefirs etc. is about the limit of my knowledge of chemistry. Yes, practice improves my luck as well. Perhaps, this being my first YT comment, I will upload some video of that and other sundry curiosities which fascinate me. Later Friend, Rottin out.
Robert Murray-Smith I have noticed how interactive you are withe your students and I tip my hat to you for that. I am encouraged and it would be my pleasure to do so. Thanks again.
Hi rob Very interesting, this solar cell could be used in high rise buildings that have very little room for the solar used to today. But an almost clear solar cell could be used on the surfaces they have a lot of and that is windows. A sheet of almost cleat graphene sheet could in theory be applied to All the window surface to produce power.
Being of automobile aftermarket customization, I wonder if this technology can be used to charge capacitors or batteries and extend the range of an electric vehicle. Very curious and ready to develop such an aftermarket addition.
Hello Mr. Robert Murray Smith, can i ask what is the name of that powder again? sorry, for i cant really understand it. id like to ask if do you also have a paper for this? Thank you so much! Your videos are really awesome, thank you for sharing those stuffs with us!
If I can get some formic acid, I will see if I can make nanoparticles of silver sulfide with this method. I've already got some silver sulfide prepared, and although I'm admittedly a novice in chemistry, I know silver compounds like silver sulfide are highly photo-reactive. I'll let you know if I get a chance to try it out.
Can you tell us how much graphene is produced in the mixer in the background> LOL. Good work, setting up new lab now in garage....wont the wife be impressed.
I did similar work in my Master's Degree Thesis for my Graduation but the deposit was Cadmium Sulphide (instead of ZnS) thin films on any surface, and when I deposited the CdS films on an aluminum plate, then deposited Copper2 oxide on the CdS film I made the well known CdS.CuxS solar cell which generated under sunlight 3ma/ cm2. I wish if you have time to do some work on this subject and I can send to you copy of my published thesis.
Very interesting theory indeed. What are the chances of this being increased in power to a useful amount, sat, enough to build a panel that could be used for battery charging. Is any further research being carried out. Imagine; charging a battery using ambient light as opposed to bright sunlight. That would indeed be a game changer.
I have spent a lot of energy, tried to do this experiment hundreds of times, but still could not get the solution to make the Tyndall effect disappear. I also bought zinc formate by myself, but still could not succeed. I urgently need your help, and I beg you to reply me when you receive this message, and give me some hope
wooow verryy nice xD! thankyou for sharring, I can feel a little bit of the feeling you had when you discoverd the genius behind that mistake. veryy cool and interresting. I think ultra fast diodes with be necessary to rediscover the ancient technologies that used sound as an energy to carve/create/shape matter.
hi sir can we get electricity from radium emitting light and solar cells as one unit there are some kind of radium those gets more lightining as they got cold ..............
if you were to make a jello cube and put an aluminum and a copper contact into the jello... to make a 3D collector.... what could you coat it with to protect it from rain cheaply, but not blocking too much of the energy....
I'm trying to replicate your experiment but I'm confused... I can get zinc sulfate easily but having difficulty for zinc formate... You talk about heating zinc formate into zinc sulfide... but then making formate crystal from formic acid decomposition with zinc oxide (am I right?) then adding the formate with photography things.. then ( I am totally lost and confused..) for my english is not good and the subtitle translation get me lost even further.. Please please make a writing about this or better make video with better audio.. such an interesting concept here, this can really have great impact for tropical country like mine
Hi Robert. This is really fascinating. Love your vids & enthusiasm. :) Do you think it would improve the cell's efficiency if: a) the electrodes were closer together, and in multiples. (less distance for electrons to travel, and a stronger electric field?) b) the coating material was much thicker - i.e. black - so it captured more light... What do you think? I think perhaps the best feature is that anyone can make it from simple materials. No silicon labs, no nano-printing etc... It could be a really accessible tech... It could also be used for infrared harvesting maybe? Did you test it with heat alone? Thanks. :)
Robert, I was wondering whether you have tried these solar cells in direct sunlight? It appears that in this video, you tested the cell just under UV light. I'd be interested in the findings. I was also curious in your voltage output. Awesome videos! Thanks.
i did mate - i think i did a separate video on it - to be honest i shelved this for a little while until i finish up the eesd project - which is nearly done - then time to drag this one back out lol
Isn't there a device called "the black box" that uses something similar to this? It has stacks of razor thin sheets that generate immense amounts of power.
+Pac Oo Bloom Box. It’s a Fuel Cell that converts Natural Gas to water, heat, + electricity. Since we can MAKE Natural Gas from CO2 plus solar energy it offers a closed-loop power option if we put solar cells in all our deserts.
I probably won't mate - silver is just too expensive for a general solar cell - probably better to use an ionic fluid and I have done a video on how to make those from cheap materials
Just watched the other vid with the clear cell you tested in the sun. Very interesting stuff! do you think stacking them would be better for production per sq cm? Since its clear and light passes through it, I think one could equal the current solar cell efficiency. Thoughts?
I am extremely ignorant but very interested in your videos/work/experiments. I don’t understand this new form of solar cell because you never placed it into sunlight to get your amps. What’s it creating amps from your overhead lights? Also do you have a step by step directions I could purchase and download. Thanks you are very smart. Lastly how long before your C6 power blade batteries will be available for purchase.
have you looked at the intensity of your laser beam without the tube in front? Most green lasers do this: the intensity is much higher in the first second or so and then it drops in intensity when the YAG-crystal inside converting the IR radiation of the laser diode into green light heats up. Sorry, no solar cell here...
i think it may have some relation to this years chemistry nobel prize... have you heard of it? the ability to see inside live cells They are using that effect somehow.
Robert, great work! Have you got this written down somewhere? Every time I watch one of these videos, I find myself having to play it repeatedly to record what you said. The video is useful, but I would like the recipe as well.
no mate - i don't write it down - I video log and if I want to remember i revisit my logs - these videos are meant to inspire and encourage others to experiment anyway - they aren't end products in themselves - just interesting things that might serve as jumping off points - so recipes don't really help with that
robert hello greetings from Uruguay apology I make the translation through google as there are English ... and this made the photoconductora solution which materials did you ??? ?? this is the electrolyte cell that showed flexible plastic sheet made of aluminum and copper ??
Robert Murray-Smith Hi Robert, I have followed your method to make the ZnS nano particles to the best of my ability and I have manged to make the Bis thiourea zinc formate, which I then added the electrolyte solution to. After the larger ZnS particles have settled I get a clear solution that passes the Tyndall test (i.e. I am able to see the laser line) however I do NOT see the dimming of the light. Just wondering if you have ever experienced this outcome and if you have do you know what I may be doing wrong/different to you. Just for fun a passed the the solution through a 0.45um filter then re did the Tyndall test. the resulting solution failed which leads me to believe that the particles suspended in solution is at least 450nm in size. Thanks for the great video.
please remake this video with a better soundtrack as I cannot clearly hear the details, Very interested in your work and find all your video quite compelling, great job.
question for you robert...While i was doing an experiment to produce hydrogen thru electolysis i actually was able to charge the 12 volt battery while drawing a current to produce the hydrogen...can u tell me how i was able to charge the battery while producing the hydrogen if i was pulling a current from the battery...oh ya i did add a lil bit of activated carbon to the water as well
+Robert Murray-Smith I think the recation between the hydrogen and carbon made a battery of sorts and increased my battery voltage..I just thought it was wierd the voltage went up while pulling a heavy load to create the hydrogen.i have no degree in chemistry i just enjoy playing with electricity
+Robert Murray-Smith I just recently got interested in electricity and its all can think about ..sad part is i have very little knowledge of this field ....I even am fascinated by a stupid gas vaporization contraption i made which gets 3 times better fuel economy then burning liquid fuel...I didnt graduate highschool i just woke up one day and wanted to find a way to stray away from the price gouging electric providers..If some of my questions seem stupid im sorry its literally because i do not know the answers..And i look up to u very much and love watching your videos i learn quite a bit from them...
+Daniel Bradford having a voltage isn't the same as charging a battery mate - you can think of the voltage as a hill with a slope - the greater the slope the higher the voltage - now if you have water at the top of the hill it will flow down faster if the hill has a larger gradient. But if there is no water there is no power. the water is like the amps. Take away the water and the slope remains.
That went too technical for me, but was very interesting either way ! I saw an interesting article last week about some guy who made some kind of huge lens (actually a ball of glass filled with water) which concentrates the sun rays in order to give more efficiency to the solar cell, I found that really genius, but you know what, I actually had that idea last year (I'm not saying Im the one who had this first, I bet plenty of people thought of this before !) of using lenses to magnify the sun rays in order to (I assumed) provide ton more energy to a solar cell !! love the idea, thought i'd share :), plus it would make sense to use high yield solar cells, but like a small size, because it's very expensive to produce, and use big lenses to magnify the sun rays.. because that's worth nothing, compared to high yield solar cells anyway.. I think that's the future of solar energy, for instance they even said in low sun exposure areas you would still get a good yield, make sense !! I actually ordered some mini lenses and I plan to conduct some tests relating to heat conductivity and solar cell efficiency ! My scientific self is emerging, and people like you inspire me alot.
+Thomas Syxe v cool mate - you can use the same idea to make cheap spectacles that can be individually tailored for the user at the point of prescription
I need to buy a multimeter and learn how to use it ( I forgot from the courses I took aha) and then try on one of these cheap chinese solar panels you can buy for a few bucks, actually I got a 300ma/h one :) wonder if it improves it..
Waooooooooow!! Bravooooo Mistake....not sure. Why? I think about the great about football player. They are waiting for the ball and sometime they are surprised because the ball doesn't arrived as usual...and at this time they do a new technical kick. That's kind of artist. Mistake arrives but when you have skills it becomes an opportunity.
Robert thanks for your prompt respuesta..en my country is very expensive energy and solar panels are not within the reach of workers comunes..por this reason I'm looking for a way to make a solar cell I tried to replicate assays eficiente.he Flexible your cell with few resultados..tome a film and achieve acetate do el..tome conductive graphite rubbing two thin sheets of copper ( anode ) and one of aluminum ( cathode ) and electrolyte used .. potassium iodide. then use other electrolytes such as salt , magnesium sulfate can help etc.With few results not understand where I have failed. 1.5v would have to give me a minimum and I 've only come to 0.40v ??
Andy Mueller good to hear mate - according to me chemistry is the rock god of science lol - seriously there are so many interesting things that can be done with it
I can't understand what you're saying most of the time because of the echo :( Can you provide the list of the final products needed to make this experimental?
By the way, check this out, it might be useful: www.researchgate.net/publication/225410506_Preparation_of_aluminum-doped_zinc_oxide_(AZO)_nano_particles_by_hydrothermal_synthesis
Robert Murray-Smith you'll have more success making zinc sulphide by simple zinc sulphate-sodium sulphide double displacement. I made a very stable colloidal suspension of manganese doped zinc sulphide using this reaction(by co precipiation of manganese and zinc sulphides). Interestingly, it was for an electroluminsecent ink. Are there any specific crystallline properties you get from heat decomposed ZnS?
Robert Murray-Smith what would you like to know? I am still exploring it's physical properties but have settled on the chemical synthesis and purification part.
Incidentally it is for the electroluminescent ink testing that I'm interested in nanocellulose-graphene transparent electrodes. ItO is rather expensive and I'd prefer to not blow my entire budget on the electrode itself.
Hi Robert Do you think that is possible to make complexes of other materials like cadmium with thiourea and then... maka your mistake to spritz out nano cadium sulfide?
Robert Murray-Smith I tried with Lead formate bisthiourea dispersed in Lacey'solution. The cell work better. I imagine because band gap of lead sulfide is lower than that of zinc sulfide. In fact I used a red laser to see the NP.
Hey' Robert just thinking about what your doing and thought I might mention a well known compound TITANIUM DIOXIDE it is much more easy to obtain and less complicated. Could this work in your nanotube process as well as what your using? Also if you want, have a look at the 20 year battery using TITANIUM DIOXIDE nanotubes gel LITHIUM-ION batteries at www.disclose.tv, just type in 20 year battery from the researchers at NANYANG TECHNOLOGY UNIVERSITY. Robert you do a great job with your video's. Thank you for shearing your knowledge. I look forward to see what you have coming next. [LOL] Your book is being fill with great things. sign JAMES KENNEDY
Hiya Mate - I use TiO2 later in the video. It's catalytic for the reverse reaction but not really usable by itself - like in a gratzel cell. Thanks for thinking about it.
I was mulling this over further - you wouldn't want to use commercial TiO2 either mate - you would need to use nanoprticles - they sell those but they are not cheap - probably better to in situ synthesis them - I think this is a do-able but non trivial project mate
I just found this in Feb 2019. Wow ! You were on the cutting edge ! I assume you still are. I'll catch up on your videos. Thank you.
Rob... Absolutely fascinating!
I am totally envious, and wish now, that I'd listened to what my chemistry teacher told me.
(Rob's voice) - "Why mate? What did he tell you?"
(My voice) - "I don't know! I didn't listen!"
. You are a good man for sharing this stuff with the world . I wish you nothing but the best and thank you for your work ! i cant wait for the next ten years to pass and watch this tech along with others transform the world .
+jesusoftheapes Thank yo u mate for taking the time to say that - it's well appreciated
It is easy to be thankful , but it's hard to change the world . I cant wait to see what else you come up with.
I dont know if you answer questions but i have one . I am looking for a battery pack that puts out at least 72 v to run a DC motor 4500 rpm that i am using to convert a gas powered outboard power head to an electric system . The trouble is any battery pack i can find that is powerful enough to drive this motor for a day on the lake is very heavy and my boat is to small for that much weight . I need the battery system to be light enough output enough voltage to use the boat on the water for an entire day . Can you suggest a graphine option to try out for such a build? Either to buy or to build ? I see the fast charge ability in your videos and see the possibility of a self sustaining battery system that could charge it self while running . Maybe im wrong but it would be worth a try .
If its to much to ask of you i understand
+jesusoftheapes There aren't that many options to buy mate - you could try LiPO but that would still be pretty heavy and expensive - which really only leaves you building one - I am not sure of your back ground - that might be a bit challenging - but if you want to give it a go - there are lots of ideas around - go through google scholar and see what you think
i can make anything if i have a sound idea to work with .,. i wonder if a magnet motor generator connected to a large version of a graphine battery could be something i could use to keep the graphine battery charged at all times?Since the time it takes to charge one is so much less then the discharge rate it sounds good in theory anyway. who knows? . this is my "free-ish" energy experiment project . if i actually figure how to build this it could be something special . Ill figure something out
. Thanks for responding i hope to see your work out here in the real world soon enough
+jesusoftheapes cheers mate - i think the idea is the same basically as if you strap a motor to a dynamo - they would run each other in perpetuity if there was no work done - but there is - if you set up a system like that it might work until you tried to run some thing with it - but i have never built anything like that so i don't really know
Amazing! Watching that laser dim in the solution was exciting, and so were the subsequent experiments with those makeshift solar cells.
Looking forward to seeing your progress on this if you make any - practical experimentation FTW!
cheers mate
This was absolutely delightful to watch. I know very little about physics or chemistry for that matter, but when I saw what your mistake had become I got as excited as I would have if I'd just discovered something to change the entire world. Thank you so much for your video. I might have actually learned something I never thought I had enough intelligence to understand lol
If you were my college professor I would have had the best time ever in school rather than being bored to tears.
Gianna Giavelli chemistry rocks - school not so much
Wow, This is an absolutly amazing find, awesome job!
***** just luck mate
Robert Murray-Smith Ben Hogan was an American professional golfer -he's famous for saying "Golf is a game of luck, the more I practice, the luckier I get." Looks like all that practicing is paying off =)
Aric D
lol - very true lol
@@ThinkingandTinkering Rob, you made a great discovery accident or not. You made note of it and gave it a voice for people like me years in the future to discover. Thank you!
So appreciate how accessible you make some of these advanced topics.
+Cere Mony thank you for taking the time to say so - it's appreciated
Robert Murray-Smith Don't you just love serendipity! :) I suspect the oxalic acid acts as a reducing agent to form the ZnS nanoparticles, similar to the action citric acid has in making gold nanoparticles, but it may be only part of the process here. I am gonna give this a go! Judging by the way the nanoparticles stay in suspension, I would assume they are rather small. Fascinating!
isn't it though lol
Robert you should experiment to determine which wavelength of light spectrum produces the most output power and then use a cheap optical filter for that wavelength. Then you can work on producing a gel or solid of your zinc-sulfide solution because outside heat will dissipate the liquid. Your choice of aluminum and copper are good because simplicity and you can also let copper heat in sun and aluminum stay shielded from heat to produce a thermoelectric effect.
Fascinating! We didn't get to see the cell in darkness or a close-up of the construction. Placing the top layer over the aluminium looked rather haphazard, is it possible that you have an inificient battery cell, rather than a solar cell?
Omai! Thank you so much for the laser light test... Just what I needed. This is fascinating stuff, btw, thanks for sharing
So put it into a gelatine against a silver or copper plates and extract the energy with diodes involved.
Thanks for the info Robert. Look forward to your next video.
seriously thanks for the suggestions mate - it is appreciated
Is very powerful the positions awards with nano coathing and others systems like nano coathing into chamber without oxides gases and methane and first step make plástic to this grafene impossible very nano coathing coath or Smoller production and said i grafene paladium this electrocapacitors hidrogen walls, make compounds that When fusioned dont but i said tail with biorganics acids solutions like yet but Moré acids with hidrogen walls
And Thank you for sharing this video .
This doesn't tell us how much power you're getting. Microamps is just one of two variables we need to figure out how much power we're dealing with here. How much voltage?
Incidentally I did make a similar error some months ago'!.
Do you remember the IronSulphide for Thermocell? Really I mixed another substance with sulphur in the planetary ball mill (my wife get me the wrong label) and Thermocell did performing well.
Form that starting point I checked other mixtures with that "substance" and I'm improving the Thermocell a lot.
I like your "flexible cell" idea, and basically is possible to paint a 2D solar cell with an array of Cu-Al tape (but remember that exist also Mg tape!) like the "giant radiator", protect it with a overcoat and bond over skylights, sunscreen, windows, sails,railings and so on.
Good work Robert. You are doing well..
cheers mate - glad the thermocell is going so well for you
Maby this could open the opertunerty for a kind of solarcell I got 35 years ago. Where you have a fluid inside a small fearaday cage so when the electrons are knock free they will go to the outside of the cage and thereby out of solution.
I think that most of the major discoveries in Science, have been mistakes! Watching this, I was as giddy as a school girl!! I was laughing out loud in excitement, as you were explaining your mistake!!! Great job Dude!!!!!
cheers mate n- glad you liked it
this is why we need more people doing this so the probability will be increased and the world. still have to have the knowledge to understand you have stumble on something though
Good lord Robert!
I was afraid you had stumbled onto an idea I've been working on for 6 years!
But you missed.
Thank you!!!!!!
heheh, but I'll be releasing open-source when I'm done with the idea soon.
Robert could you do a quick test? Shine the laser through the solution but put a piece of white paper on the back side of the test tube. Does the light on the paper grow brighter as the laser line in the solution grows dimmer or do both get dimmer at the same time? I ask this because I read about magnetic mirrors and I saw some similarities between what these researchers did and what you're doing. The paper is Magnetic Mirrors Enable New Technologies by Reflecting Light in Uncanny Ways. So if the light dims inside the solution and on the paper, the particles might be acting as a magnetic mirror and that would be very cool.
cool suggestion mate - i'll try it in the morning and let you know
6:02 just made me think of a dye laser! do you suppose light amplification could be achieved if the fluid were circulating past the "pump" beam?
it's an interesting idea - i mean I have no idea - but i wouldn't mind looking into it
I wish you had the time to look deeper into this technology, this will be a huge plus for your batteries.
Robert, it seems like you might be stepping into the world of harvesting Tesla's radiant energy. Well Done. I wish you were my chemistry teacher :)
This "liquid" that contain nano ZnS could be use in a zinc/sulfur recirculating battery.
Zinc anode and graphene cathode (doped with a catalyst).
Could be useful for replenish the battery with a liquid anode.
i see redox flow are a interest lol
I like the solar cell a lot. I've watched a couple of videos that you have done on at the new improved one and such. what if you took the two electrodes the copper strip and the aluminum stripped and made fingers across the face of the solar strip. Probably like wire size kind of like a mesh. This might give it more and quicker collection.
Just finished your solar cell playlist. More questions as normal. ;)
I understand the principle of the diode, reminds me of the crystal radio cat whisker diode.
What I'm confused about is the insulator in a diode is very thin, so the electrons can tunnel through but only in one direction because of the difference in work function. Which part is acting as the insulator in this cell? Why doesn't the graphene in the ink the short circuit things?
I see it's working, but I just can't understand why!
me neither lol - sorry about that - but i can't honestly say i understand
Robert Murray-Smith I made one of those razor blade diodes for a crystal radio as a kid, I only ever managed to get it work once and never understood it at the time! This is a similar principle I think.
That works because you heat the blade to create an oxide layer then you put a pencil tip on the surface, because the oxide layer acts as a semiconductor / insulator, electrons can tunnel through (or whatever explanation you choose) in one direction more easily, so rectifies the high frequency of radio signals fed through it. In practice, finding a spot on the blade with the right thickness and conductivity is difficult!
But with this the two metals are far apart so how can this be acting as a diode?
Robert Murray-Smith Thanks for the input, as always.
Very interesting idea.
Well, we already have Titanium Dioxide solar cells at about 1% efficiency.
The nanoparticle technique might improve that with the right substrate.
Interesting , I observed something interesting with a stainless steel dog bowl, filled with water, and a piece of aluminum foil suspended in the water by means of a stick resting across the sides, to which was added a capful of cider vinegar. It produced in the milliamp range, since it was done outside on a cloudy day as a bit of a try out, to my astonishment as soon as the sun hit the experiment the rate of production increased tenfold. I assumed the light was dislodging electrons and pumping the circuit.
cheers mate - thanks for taking the time to write
@@ThinkingandTinkering No worries its all about gathering random bits of information and assembling them into a coherent whole.
Sir, I have many lasers and often their beam will diminish that quickly until they warm up and maintain initial output or with week batteries.
You've enlightened me once again in that it has a name, Tyndall test.
I have used a green laser to do this very test on my wines noting their clearing progress. The most most amazing test comes from some Persimmon wine (a small burnt orange colored fruit). Although, to the naked eye, it appears perfectly clear but for the yellow tint. When illuminated by the green laser, Wow, what a show. Making wines, kefirs etc. is about the limit of my knowledge of chemistry. Yes, practice improves my luck as well. Perhaps, this being my first YT comment, I will upload some video of that and other sundry curiosities which fascinate me.
Later Friend, Rottin out.
Rottin Rodney link me in when you do mate - it'd be cool to see
Robert Murray-Smith
I have noticed how interactive you are withe your students and I tip my hat to you for that. I am encouraged and it would be my pleasure to do so. Thanks again.
Rottin Rodney i try - it isn't always possible - but i really try when somebody says something interesting like you lol
Hi rob
Very interesting, this solar cell could be used in high rise buildings that have very little room for the solar used to today.
But an almost clear solar cell could be used on the surfaces they have a lot of and that is windows. A sheet of almost cleat graphene sheet could in theory be applied to All the window surface to produce power.
Andy Taylor sounds like a plan mate - let me know how you get on with it
Being of automobile aftermarket customization, I wonder if this technology can be used to charge capacitors or batteries and extend the range of an electric vehicle. Very curious and ready to develop such an aftermarket addition.
countrywideprocess please don't double post - i read all posts and emails and respond to all of them - i have answered this query on another video
Well done robert fantastic think penicillin was found by accident ! Go robert go ,lovin it all bill
cheers mate
Hello Mr. Robert Murray Smith, can i ask what is the name of that powder again? sorry, for i cant really understand it. id like to ask if do you also have a paper for this? Thank you so much! Your videos are really awesome, thank you for sharing those stuffs with us!
If I can get some formic acid, I will see if I can make nanoparticles of silver sulfide with this method. I've already got some silver sulfide prepared, and although I'm admittedly a novice in chemistry, I know silver compounds like silver sulfide are highly photo-reactive. I'll let you know if I get a chance to try it out.
Great work Robert,
cheers mate
i appreciate the knowledge thank u sir
+Daniel Bradford glad it helps mate
I've often wondered why a bowl of liquid with the right materials couldn't be statically charged
Can you tell us how much graphene is produced in the mixer in the background> LOL. Good work, setting up new lab now in garage....wont the wife be impressed.
Jonathan Parris lol - a lot - i use it for graphene coated sand
Great stuff. I miss the jam jars though - what is with these fancy beakers :)
The man has gotten himself a lab with more of a budget now! He don't need no stinking jam jars LOL! I miss that a bit too.
things move on mate
thagrit
lol - i still use them but now i have beakers too!!
Good 'ole jam jar science; those were the days!
Joseph Richardson
lol
I did similar work in my Master's Degree Thesis for my Graduation but the deposit was Cadmium Sulphide (instead of ZnS) thin films on any surface, and when I deposited the CdS films on an aluminum plate, then deposited Copper2 oxide on the CdS film I made the well known CdS.CuxS solar cell which generated under sunlight 3ma/ cm2. I wish if you have time to do some work on this subject and I can send to you copy of my published thesis.
Hi im doing some work also in the same staff can you send me your thesis!
Very interesting theory indeed. What are the chances of this being increased in power to a useful amount, sat, enough to build a panel that could be used for battery charging. Is any further research being carried out. Imagine; charging a battery using ambient light as opposed to bright sunlight. That would indeed be a game changer.
They are using 2 colored lasers and it may have been the physics nobel prize... but I'm pretty sure it was chem
i'll look it up thanks for that
I have spent a lot of energy, tried to do this experiment hundreds of times, but still could not get the solution to make the Tyndall effect disappear. I also bought zinc formate by myself, but still could not succeed. I urgently need your help, and I beg you to reply me when you receive this message, and give me some hope
i hope you do more on this, its Amazing
new vid just uploading mate
wooow verryy nice xD! thankyou for sharring, I can feel a little bit of the feeling you had when you discoverd the genius behind that mistake. veryy cool and interresting. I think ultra fast diodes with be necessary to rediscover the ancient technologies that used sound as an energy to carve/create/shape matter.
could be
Robert Murray-Smith can you imagine the Philadelphia experiment with this stuff.
hi sir
can we get electricity from radium emitting light and solar cells as one unit
there are some kind of radium those gets more lightining as they got cold ..............
if you were to make a jello cube and put an aluminum and a copper contact into the jello... to make a 3D collector.... what could you coat it with to protect it from rain cheaply, but not blocking too much of the energy....
nice idea mate - give it a go and let me know how it works out
Jello 'under glass'? Sheesh
I'm trying to replicate your experiment but I'm confused... I can get zinc sulfate easily but having difficulty for zinc formate... You talk about heating zinc formate into zinc sulfide... but then making formate crystal from formic acid decomposition with zinc oxide (am I right?) then adding the formate with photography things.. then ( I am totally lost and confused..) for my english is not good and the subtitle translation get me lost even further.. Please please make a writing about this or better make video with better audio.. such an interesting concept here, this can really have great impact for tropical country like mine
I enjoy the detaied explantions you give.I work better when I understand something
cheers mate
Very interesting Robert. Have you heard of Dr. Gerald Pollack's work with structured water? It sounds related to me.
Hi Robert. This is really fascinating. Love your vids & enthusiasm. :)
Do you think it would improve the cell's efficiency if:
a) the electrodes were closer together, and in multiples. (less distance for electrons to travel, and a stronger electric field?)
b) the coating material was much thicker - i.e. black - so it captured more light...
What do you think?
I think perhaps the best feature is that anyone can make it from simple materials. No silicon labs, no nano-printing etc... It could be a really accessible tech... It could also be used for infrared harvesting maybe? Did you test it with heat alone?
Thanks. :)
cheers mate and i imagine it would work as you suggest - personally I haven't done much with this for a while - i will get back to it at some time
Thanks for the reply. Can see you're busy with more fascinating & inspiring stuff... :)
I'll keep thinking about it...
awesome mate - it's here for everyone to work with if they feel like it
Robert, I was wondering whether you have tried these solar cells in direct sunlight? It appears that in this video, you tested the cell just under UV light. I'd be interested in the findings. I was also curious in your voltage output. Awesome videos! Thanks.
i did mate - i think i did a separate video on it - to be honest i shelved this for a little while until i finish up the eesd project - which is nearly done - then time to drag this one back out lol
Just goes to show you...necessity might be the mother of invention, but sometimes the mum got knocked up by accident!
Isn't there a device called "the black box" that uses something similar to this? It has stacks of razor thin sheets that generate immense amounts of power.
+Pac Oo
Bloom Box. It’s a Fuel Cell that converts Natural Gas to water, heat, + electricity.
Since we can MAKE Natural Gas from CO2 plus solar energy it offers a closed-loop power option if we put solar cells in all our deserts.
Please try silver nano particle & colloidal silver as electrolyte in your Solar Cell.
I probably won't mate - silver is just too expensive for a general solar cell - probably better to use an ionic fluid and I have done a video on how to make those from cheap materials
You can make silver ionic fliuid or by it :
#378 How to make ionic, nano particle & colloidal silver
Bartosz Barejko
ok - still not doing it
Just watched the other vid with the clear cell you tested in the sun. Very interesting stuff! do you think stacking them would be better for production per sq cm? Since its clear and light passes through it, I think one could equal the current solar cell efficiency. Thoughts?
it will have a percentage transmittance that will limit the thickness but you could sack them - yes
I am extremely ignorant but very interested in your videos/work/experiments. I don’t understand this new form of solar cell because you never placed it into sunlight to get your amps. What’s it creating amps from your overhead lights? Also do you have a step by step directions I could purchase and download. Thanks you are very smart. Lastly how long before your C6 power blade batteries will be available for purchase.
Great work Robert, ever consider an ev motor with graphene?
have you looked at the intensity of your laser beam without the tube in front? Most green lasers do this: the intensity is much higher in the first second or so and then it drops in intensity when the YAG-crystal inside converting the IR radiation of the laser diode into green light heats up.
Sorry, no solar cell here...
i think it may have some relation to this years chemistry nobel prize... have you heard of it? the ability to see inside live cells They are using that effect somehow.
are they now - no I didn't know that - interesting
Could it be that the nano particles are actually being pushed away by photon pressure?
Robert, great work! Have you got this written down somewhere? Every time I watch one of these videos, I find myself having to play it repeatedly to record what you said. The video is useful, but I would like the recipe as well.
no mate - i don't write it down - I video log and if I want to remember i revisit my logs - these videos are meant to inspire and encourage others to experiment anyway - they aren't end products in themselves - just interesting things that might serve as jumping off points - so recipes don't really help with that
or at least that's my view of it
The definition of Open Source!
cheers mate
robert hello greetings from Uruguay apology I make the translation through google as there are English ... and this made the photoconductora solution which materials did you ??? ?? this is the electrolyte cell that showed flexible plastic sheet made of aluminum and copper ??
bruno agrelo los materiale son en las videos
Robert Murray-Smith Hi Robert, I have followed your method to make the ZnS nano particles to the best of my ability and I have manged to make the Bis thiourea zinc formate, which I then added the electrolyte solution to. After the larger ZnS particles have settled I get a clear solution that passes the Tyndall test (i.e. I am able to see the laser line) however I do NOT see the dimming of the light. Just wondering if you have ever experienced this outcome and if you have do you know what I may be doing wrong/different to you. Just for fun a passed the the solution through a 0.45um filter then re did the Tyndall test. the resulting solution failed which leads me to believe that the particles suspended in solution is at least 450nm in size. Thanks for the great video.
Hiya mate - no it didn't happen but crystal growth is bound to be important here - so slow recrystalisation is bound to be important
please remake this video with a better soundtrack as I cannot clearly hear the details, Very interested in your work and find all your video quite compelling, great job.
Could a solar cell be made with zinc glow powder
I wonder what would happen if you added carbon nitride? When I tested and see, I shall let you know:)
dedlunch definitely let me know mate
Hemp battery. Activated carbon and hemp converted to carbon. Right?
question for you robert...While i was doing an experiment to produce hydrogen thru electolysis i actually was able to charge the 12 volt battery while drawing a current to produce the hydrogen...can u tell me how i was able to charge the battery while producing the hydrogen if i was pulling a current from the battery...oh ya i did add a lil bit of activated carbon to the water as well
+Daniel Bradford no idea mate - what do you think?
+Robert Murray-Smith I think the recation between the hydrogen and carbon made a battery of sorts and increased my battery voltage..I just thought it was wierd the voltage went up while pulling a heavy load to create the hydrogen.i have no degree in chemistry i just enjoy playing with electricity
+Robert Murray-Smith I just recently got interested in electricity and its all can think about ..sad part is i have very little knowledge of this field ....I even am fascinated by a stupid gas vaporization contraption i made which gets 3 times better fuel economy then burning liquid fuel...I didnt graduate highschool i just woke up one day and wanted to find a way to stray away from the price gouging electric providers..If some of my questions seem stupid im sorry its literally because i do not know the answers..And i look up to u very much and love watching your videos i learn quite a bit from them...
+Daniel Bradford having a voltage isn't the same as charging a battery mate - you can think of the voltage as a hill with a slope - the greater the slope the higher the voltage - now if you have water at the top of the hill it will flow down faster if the hill has a larger gradient. But if there is no water there is no power. the water is like the amps. Take away the water and the slope remains.
+Daniel Bradford cheers mate - thinking about electricity like water can be a big help to understanding it
That went too technical for me, but was very interesting either way ! I saw an interesting article last week about some guy who made some kind of huge lens (actually a ball of glass filled with water) which concentrates the sun rays in order to give more efficiency to the solar cell, I found that really genius, but you know what, I actually had that idea last year (I'm not saying Im the one who had this first, I bet plenty of people thought of this before !) of using lenses to magnify the sun rays in order to (I assumed) provide ton more energy to a solar cell !!
love the idea, thought i'd share :), plus it would make sense to use high yield solar cells, but like a small size, because it's very expensive to produce, and use big lenses to magnify the sun rays.. because that's worth nothing, compared to high yield solar cells anyway..
I think that's the future of solar energy, for instance they even said in low sun exposure areas you would still get a good yield, make sense !!
I actually ordered some mini lenses and I plan to conduct some tests relating to heat conductivity and solar cell efficiency !
My scientific self is emerging, and people like you inspire me alot.
+Thomas Syxe v cool mate - you can use the same idea to make cheap spectacles that can be individually tailored for the user at the point of prescription
Oh you mean custom sized lenses depending the need ?
+Thomas Syxe exactly
I need to buy a multimeter and learn how to use it ( I forgot from the courses I took aha) and then try on one of these cheap chinese solar panels you can buy for a few bucks, actually I got a 300ma/h one :) wonder if it improves it..
+Thomas Syxe it's all about the doing mate
Don't get it at all. But awesome. Can't wait to see you assemble something out of this and then test the shit out of it!
Thank you so much. I cannot hear what the name of the acid is, can you please tell me what it is zinc oxide and ? acid....thanks
.......that was formic acid ,
Will this be available commercially?
great work . can you write the equation of this reaction. please
sir is nanoparticles same as glowstick?
Waooooooooow!! Bravooooo
Mistake....not sure. Why? I think about the great about football player. They are waiting for the ball and sometime they are surprised because the ball doesn't arrived as usual...and at this time they do a new technical kick. That's kind of artist.
Mistake arrives but when you have skills it becomes an opportunity.
nice comment mate - i like it lol
www.gizmag.com/solar-cells-made-with-microwave/27420/ this the article, that s very interesting.
Mo Kha
that is interesting - i will definitely look into this when i get back
Mo Kha
nice one mate
Robert Murray-Smith when I saw this article, I was telling myself " that's for Rob"
Did you use a surfactant or capping agent?
+Red Rake in this one - no mate
hello robert..no quite understand cell eta is Censible light parese or more to a galvanic cell redox ??
bruno agrelo I am sorry mate - i don't understand your question - can you write it in your home language
SI CLARO ESTABA PREGUNTANDOTE SI ERA SENCIBLE A LA LUZ O SIMILAR A UNA PILA GALVANICA OSEA EFECTO REDOX.??
Robert thanks for your prompt respuesta..en my country is very expensive energy and solar panels are not within the reach of workers comunes..por this reason I'm looking for a way to make a solar cell I tried to replicate assays eficiente.he Flexible your cell with few resultados..tome a film and achieve acetate do el..tome conductive graphite rubbing two thin sheets of copper ( anode ) and one of aluminum ( cathode ) and electrolyte used .. potassium iodide. then use other electrolytes such as salt , magnesium sulfate can help etc.With few results not understand where I have failed. 1.5v would have to give me a minimum and I 've only come to 0.40v ??
bruno agrelo ehy are eesds mate so a kind of half and half
Robert could tell me where to buy these chemicals? Thanks
Chris A
ASV TV I get mine from ebay mate
Thanks robert
Very interesting.
cheers mate
I took chemistry in college, but have forgotten a lot. My interest has rekindled, and videos like this are a big help. Thanks! :)
Andy Mueller
good to hear mate - according to me chemistry is the rock god of science lol - seriously there are so many interesting things that can be done with it
WHY ARE YOU WHISPERING??
can you make a video for large scale synthesis of zinc oxide nanoparticles at low cost..:-)
sumit sharma i'll try to get round to it
That was AWESOME. Make more mistakes :)
lol - i make them all the time mate
I can't understand what you're saying most of the time because of the echo :(
Can you provide the list of the final products needed to make this experimental?
+Dizzie Dice no mate sorry - watch the video again
Will do! (with some headphones maybe :))
By the way, check this out, it might be useful:
www.researchgate.net/publication/225410506_Preparation_of_aluminum-doped_zinc_oxide_(AZO)_nano_particles_by_hydrothermal_synthesis
+Dizzie Dice cheers mate - there is just a limit to the amount of time i can spend on these videos
+Dizzie Dice cheers mate
um... all my lasers dim after a sec or 2 of being on all the time.
ok - well that's a problem - have you investigated why this happens?
Can you just put zinc oxide in sulfuric acid and do the same thing?
no i don't think so mate - this is zinc sulphide not zinc sulphate
Robert Murray-Smith you'll have more success making zinc sulphide by simple zinc sulphate-sodium sulphide double displacement. I made a very stable colloidal suspension of manganese doped zinc sulphide using this reaction(by co precipiation of manganese and zinc sulphides). Interestingly, it was for an electroluminsecent ink. Are there any specific crystallline properties you get from heat decomposed ZnS?
that is interesting - tell me more about the ink if you don't mind - i have wanted to make one of those for a while
Robert Murray-Smith what would you like to know? I am still exploring it's physical properties but have settled on the chemical synthesis and purification part.
Incidentally it is for the electroluminescent ink testing that I'm interested in nanocellulose-graphene transparent electrodes. ItO is rather expensive and I'd prefer to not blow my entire budget on the electrode itself.
Chaitanya Bhave your synthesis method is the bit i am interested in i am afraid
Chaitanya Bhave lol - I know what you mean
Hi Robert
Do you think that is possible to make complexes of other materials like cadmium with thiourea and then... maka your mistake to spritz out nano cadium sulfide?
yeah sure - not sure how - but i imagine it's possible
Robert Murray-Smith I tried with Lead formate bisthiourea dispersed in Lacey'solution. The cell work better. I imagine because band gap of lead sulfide is lower than that of zinc sulfide. In fact I used a red laser to see the NP.
Leonard Janus
now that is interesting - i will make some BTLF and try it
Robert Murray-Smith But are you sure you obtained ZnS? May be ZnO nanoparticles since oxalic acid is a chelating agent.
Have you a spectrometer?
Leonard Janus
yes i do - i would try to avoid lead in work with others anyway - not for any particular reason beyond other peoples worries about it
Hey' Robert just thinking about what your doing and thought I might mention a well known compound TITANIUM DIOXIDE it is much more easy to obtain and less complicated. Could this work in your nanotube process as well as what your using? Also if you want, have a look at the 20 year battery using TITANIUM DIOXIDE nanotubes gel LITHIUM-ION batteries at www.disclose.tv, just type in 20 year battery from the researchers at NANYANG TECHNOLOGY UNIVERSITY. Robert you do a great job with your video's. Thank you for shearing your knowledge. I look forward to see what you have coming next. [LOL] Your book is being fill with great things. sign JAMES KENNEDY
Hiya Mate - I use TiO2 later in the video. It's catalytic for the reverse reaction but not really usable by itself - like in a gratzel cell. Thanks for thinking about it.
I was mulling this over further - you wouldn't want to use commercial TiO2 either mate - you would need to use nanoprticles - they sell those but they are not cheap - probably better to in situ synthesis them - I think this is a do-able but non trivial project mate
Thought you would like this detail of the mesh. community.nsee.us/concepts_apps/dssc/DSSC.html
thanks
Cant hear properly, can you post a list of the recipe please?
+Johan Kirsten microphone has been improved for later vids
Robert what is your day job how do u know all this?
Gianna Giavelli lol - I am a research chemist
Please telling me solar cell engridents
Small more powerful using nanotechnology !
I hope you're patenting all this.
I made it with INPLIX handbooks !
WOW! Just WOW!
lol - glad you like it mate
Would that be a redox reaction?
dedlunch sorry mate - what reaction do you mean?